Battle for the Dutch East Indies - Pacific War #8 Animated DOCUMENTARY
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Kings and Generals' historical animated documentary series covering the Pacific War week by week continues with another video on the early days of the war, as Japan is still on the offensive. In this episode we will talk about the early plans around the Japanese attack on the Dutch Indies, as well as the continuing battles in Malaya and the Philippines.
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Thank you 😔 kings and general...... l From Malaysia. Wait What about the South East, didn't you say that they is a soldier of Rangers in Kuching 😳 where it is the story 😂
please release Napoleonic season again! pasifiq war is also ossam!
Hello, K&G. Just want to inform you that the name Karoengan is using our old spelling where "oe" is pronounced _/u/_ . So it's _/karuŋan/_ not _/karoeŋgan/_
As an Indonesian I really love this series. Our history books never explained the complexity of Dutch East Indies campaign. I really appreciate this channel.
If you like you can read it at nino oktorino books
The whole Dutch East Indies campaign has really been forgotten about by historians. You can read into the umpteenth record of the Fall of Singapore, but there is very little about what happened in Indonesia.
@@panduwirasatya95 Ah, the one who covers Nazi's influence in Dutch Indies...
@@alamo134 ah yes and many more topic you never found on your history book at school.
@@harukrentz435 but for one who have attention its surely interesting to read and found new information.
The entirety of Japanese offensive of the pacific was to seize key oil facilities in sumatra, yet most of pacific war depictions in modern movies and games are on the pacific islands (solomon, midway, iwo jima, peleliu, okinawa, guadalcanal, etc) while these are important points of the war, they’re far later after they’ve seized the dutch east indies and were merely island hopping to defend themselves against the americans.
I wish there were more media depicting the Japanese offensive of southeast asia, it’s a very complex series of operations within a huge territories and islands separated by vast bodies of water, its fascinating really
and how successfully they pulled it off is awe inspiring!
It was the Americans that were offensively island hopping against the Japanese. Not really the Japanese falling back to defend against America. The entire strategy was only to attack key airfield points. And to bypass the vast majority of Japanese held islands. Let them die on the grapevine. Way more islands died like that than were attacked actually. But I think the focus is A) They're mostly Hollywood films. So American centric. B) Those were the "real" battles. Most of these battles, throughout the entire campaign(s) were mostly just skirmishes honestly. Few true battles of scale. Just companies and regiments/brigades fighting one another at most.
In fact, that was my gripe with CoD World at War. They introduced the Japanese, yet they didn't include this.
@@Ayy_Doll_Fiddler Check out videos of the game War in the Pacific Admirals Edition by Gary Grisby. I mean, it's the most complicated, in depth simulation of war in any game. It's not even really a "game" it's so realistic. It's absolutely the best way to get an idea of the TRUE scope and scale of these campaigns. It literally takes hours and hours just to set up one of these attacks properly.
@@jonny-b4954 I'll check videos of this game in the next weekend. Problem with wargames is that they are too time consuming and usually display an unfriendly interface. There's are some games so unpleasant on this regard that it's easier to pull some stuff out on real life than in the game. But still, maybe it'll pay out to see if I find someone who's good enough in this game.
The scale and complexity of the planning was simply mind-boggling, and to execute it within such a short time frame!
Edit: Perhaps I worded it wrongly in the last sentence, I meant the timeline of the invasion, to cover so many grounds within such a short time frame.
Not a short time frame: the Japanese had been planning *some* kind of conquest since the start of the 1930s, just maybe not with an outright invasion in every area.
@@bubbasbigblast8563 Even in the Tokugawa era, they had been planning for the invasion of south east asia from the colonizers.
The Japanese military high command made the Southeast Asian invasion war plans since 1937. The attack on Pearl Harbor was an idea picked-up by Admiral Yamamoto from the thesis of an American Admiral a decade before 1941.
@@SamtheIrishexan yes
To be fair japanese are really good at planning and executing. But the biggest issue also is they are inflexible. Their initial attacks were effective because of how much westerners underestimated their equipment and personnel. Once that myth was vanquished however, the western powers and US especially started to show the Japanese exactly why they made imperialism seemed easy. Western militaries for the most part counted on the competency of individual commanders which allowed for flexible tactical resolutions, you start to see how this eventually outclassed Japanese plans which commanders were expected to religiously execute even in the event of extreme resistance by enemies.
The last charge of the US Army's horse cavalry in its entire history. Two years later, the last battleship battle of the US Navy would also happen in the Philippines.
In December 1941 the Soviets had 80.... yes 80 horse cavalry divisions... deployed.
And the last battleship action ever would be the bombardment of Iraqi units in Kuwait in 1991
@@alexv3357 it's the last battleship action though, he is talking about last battle between battleships
@@charlie8344 I know, I was just adding to it, not correcting him
Edwin Ramsey, the officer who led that charge, wrote an interesting description of it in his excellent memoir Lt. Ramsey's War: From Horse Soldier to Guerrilla Commander...
“I brought my arm down and yelled to my men to charge. Bent nearly prone across the horses’ necks, we flung ourselves at the Japanese advance, pistols firing full into their startled faces. A few returned our fire, but most fled in confusion, some wading back into the river, others running madly for the swamps. To them we must have seemed a vision from another century, wild-eyed horses pounding headlong; cheering, whooping men firing from the saddles.”
While cavalry might seem obsolete within the context of the Second World War, the 26th Cavalry (Philippine Scouts) was a first rate unit that repeatedly proved itself to be among the most capable Allied regiments in the Philippine campaign.
As the title of Ramsey's memoir suggests his brush with history also didn't end with leading the last cavalry charge in the history of either the U.S. or the Philippines. As the nation fell to the invading Japanese he escaped into the jungle and would become a leader in the Philippine resistance. By the time U.S. forces returned in 1944, Ramsey was in command of around 40,000 guerrillas.
One can only wish to have a history channel as good as Kings and Generals. From the animation to the narration. These videos are not easy to pull off!
Mr Mitchell you are correct ;>
The Front, Armchair Historian and Kings and Generals are my top 3 go to for history
@@razzrul5838 I have watched all the videos of Historia Civilis three times over ^/^ Wish he was more active x
Epic History TV.
Check the Time Ghost History channel and their offspring channels. Maybe you can find something interesting there.
My grandfather was a boy living in the outskirts of manado. His earliest memories were seeing AA tracer rounds being shot up in the sky during an air raid
as tarakans, you can still see the remains of the war if you go to tarakan island, our local government preserve all the bunker house, canons, the burnt oil tank, artillery in karungan in their original position, etc.
That's really interesting, have to add that on my bucket list of places to visit.
I remember my grandfather tell me a story about a chaos in Belawan, a port in Northern Sumatra.
The dutch rushing into ships in hope they can avoid Japanese invasion. Often times the ships had to remove a lot of boxes because its very overloaded. The dutch go to India because Palembang has fallen to Japanese. And they cant go to Java or Australia.
Thats mean they have to go to Southern Sumatra, then Java, before finally arrived in Australia. There is already a lot of Japanese warships around that area.
Good riddance. I guess they left their Javanese and Chinese coolies behind, which is expected from these greedy imperialists once they faced a bigger bully
@@manridingabear1591 You think they should have shipped the whole Indonesian population away? Lmao
@@Raadpensionaris Indonesians are actually welcoming to the Japanese. Sumatra (Medan, Belawan) and Java were key strongholds of PETA, a native militia formed by Japanese Army. So it does not matter how and where the Dutch ran, they ran like cowards chased by Japanese and natives alike, and as I said, good riddance.
@@manridingabear1591 Then what was your point lol. Your are confused by your hatred. Just cope
Indonesian: are you our savior?
Japan: *well yes but actually no*
Oh, I wouldn't say *_freed_* , more like *_under new management_*
More like "yes. now work, slave"
@@budakbaongsiah *Romusha
If Japan had won and the war had ended and stabilised, their treatment would not have been so bad. Taiwan, for example, was annexed to Japan before the Pacific War, and although Taiwan was almost completely untouched by the war, it is said that the people living in Taiwan did not have a bad life. In fact, Taiwanese people who knew the era back then said that the country developed thanks to the Japanese annexation. Southeast Asia was the frontline of the war, so they must have been treated badly. Well, at that time, Taiwanese and Koreans were given Japanese citizenship and were given Japanese language education, so Southeast Asians must have been Japaneseised as well.
@@user-qm7jw by what? Colonialization and imperialization? I would rather live in a 'not so developed' country rather than sacrificing my ancestors into more bloody battle. The South Korea become developed country isnt the cause of Japanese colonialization. By your logic North Korea supposedly become a fine developed country aswell. But guess what? They dont.
You are so ignorant by blatantly saying being 'colonized' is a way for a country to become developed. What a nonsense argument.
Do you know why the Dutch East Indies submarine force had so many kills?
Because they had a torpedo *THAT ACTUALLY WORKED* *HINT HINT* MK14 *COUGH*
Drachinifel sends his regards.
I have to thank Lions Led by Donkeys for smartening me up on this one.
you can't simply compare a torpedo with a iron bar
Yes, the Mk 14 (submarine torpedo version) and the Mk 15 (destroyer/cruiser torpedo version) were disasters. And the bureau of ordnance kept blaming the naval personnel for not using their perfect weapon correctly.
I like how Dutch fought tirelessly just like what is happening in the Philippines with most of them forming numerous guerilla units. Didn't know this as I usually read that the Dutch capitulated in the early years of 1942. While in the Philippines the last valiant charge of American cavalry unit have been executed after that their horses where butchered due to lack of food among the troops, a sad price to pay by their loyal horses who fought since the beginning of the Japanese campaign in the Philippines.
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The difference was that the Indonesian natives were sympathetic to the Japanese. It made guerilla operations in the country far difficult than in the Philippines. So MacArthur focused on strengthening guerilla operations in the Philippines as it offered a lot of prospects.
The Indonesians would find out the true colors of the Japanese later in the war: they were not in the country to liberate the natives from the Dutch, but to enslave them for the Japanese Empire.
@@enixbluerain7213 couldn't really blame the native when you were prohibited to sell & Open corporation, not allow to own your own farm, being forced work with very small pay wage even native doctor were pay far lower than Netherlands's doctor out of pure racism unless you were nobility.
If I were in their place I'd definitely join the Japanese as well since they really give independence once the war is no longer their favor which save effort from massive rebellion.
@@Fjodor.Tabularasa Failed miserably because it's never your country to begin with, the natives rounded up Dutch and Japanese threw them into detention camps.
@@manridingabear1591 Not on islands more sympathetic to the Dutch
I've read somewhere, that native headhunters from Indonesia, who were under Duch rule forbidden to headhunt got permision to hunt once again, but only Japanese soldiers.
Headhunters? Do I take that literally?
@@metal4lifewp yes, it's the dayak tribe from borneo
@@metal4lifewp Your amazement contradicts your name.
@@Fjodor.Tabularasa wtf, Manado? I think you meant to say *Madura/Madurese people lol not Manado, Dayaks never had any conflict with Sulawesians
@@Fjodor.Tabularasa dayak vs maruda back then was racial conflict stem from raping and killing local dayak girl. And it's been solved long time ago, there's no more hatred from both side.
11:30 I currently live in Manado, raised here, and I'm surprised also admire your research, yes, you did tell the story of Manado War correctly.
As one of your fan from Segamat, i get excited when you mentioned Gemas and Segamat.There's a broken bridge at the town of Buloh Kasap, kinda a 'monument' of the war in the district. This video is one of my favourite from you, especially since it involve my hometown.
Very cool to visit old WW2 areas like that bridge, Faisal +1
I'm from segamat too :)
Thanks for another great video.
The relationship between Japan and the Dutch, the only trading nation for 200 years, is an important perspective in the pre-modern history of Japan.
There are nearly 200 Dutch loan words in Japanese, such as ontembaar(おてんば), zondag(ドンタク), pons(ポン酢) and kabas(かばん). The name of the place where Tokyo Station is located is also derived from a Dutch name(八重洲). The pre-war Japanese impression of the Dutch was that of good old friends.
It is truly sad that the conflict between the "colonisers(colonisers)" and those who believed themselves to be "liberating(colonisers)" created hatred and resentment, and a tragic war. On their first visit to the Netherlands, the former Emperor and Empress of Japan held an overtime extremely long silent prayer in front of the Cenotaph.
Today, the Dutch royal family is the closest royals to the Japanese imperial family. May this relationship last forever...
That's interesting, makes sense.
still...my grandfather wished Hirohito did not make the "grand tour of western europe" in 1971 .
I agree.
What does kabas mean?
@@SmthAbout.Money.SmellsLikeLove bag. It may be an old word. In Japanese it is kaba-n.
@@SmthAbout.Money.SmellsLikeLove een tas of zak of reiskoffer
Once again I'm impressed. Both by the mind-boggling complexity of Japanese planning and the artfully executed video. Kings and Generals for the win.
The complexity was both an advantage and the achilles heel of the Japanese Navy. As Admiral Nelson explained, "don't bother about maneuvers, just go straight at them."
as a Minahasan myself, thank you for covering the Manado War which is, surprisingly, not even covered by Indonesian history books. most history books just said "the Japanese first landed in Tarakan and the Dutch surrendered"
As a history professor. I have never seen such a specific map of the early pacific theater with troop numbers planes,ships and whole divisions! Great work guys I’ve been using y’all’s videos for the last year or so to help with my classes! Very informative!
Thank you to Kings and Generals for covering this largely forgotten front!
My grandfather was a chinese from Guangzhou who fled from the Japanese to Manado in 1939/40 (he passed away a long time ago so the exact date isn't known) when all of his siblings were already killed in the war. A couple of years later and the Japanese also invaded Manado and he had to flee into the mountains, where he met my grandmother, a concubine of the king of Tabulahan Kingdom who's also on the run from the Japanese (since they were hunting down the most prominent figures of the area). It was a very specific set of circumstances indeed for my family to ever exist
Hey Barry,
I can relate to your story. I have a uncle who is of mixed Indonesian/Chinese descent. When the Japanese captured Manado he was just a young boy and he witnessed his father, uncle and other relatives being decapitated. He told me this had to do with theyre Chinese heritage. Was there any reason for your grandfather as a Chinese to flee into the mountains?
@@hugoagaatsz I think you answered your own question there.
Who cares about your dead relatives, lol
@@benjamindavidovichwaals2899 Like i give a shit about your opinion mate
@@hugoagaatsz you do, my friend.
That's why you did write that down 😂😂
I am Dutch and I had no idea. The details you showed are incredible!!! Especially the mention of the Dutch submarines in the early day’s of the war. A fact not well known. Looking forward to the next chapters. Thank you Kings!
Oh yeah, the next chapters should also discuss the war crimes the Dutch committed towards native Indonesians after Japanese surrendered.
@@manridingabear1591 indonesia was 10x better under dutch rule it's a shit hole now
@@erin-tn2sd During Dutch rule nobody can read or write. Today Indonesia is an emerging economy due to become 4th largest in the world. Netherlands meanwhile, moroccans and turks riot on their streets while African migrants slowly occupying the country
@@manridingabear1591 i agree, but even in our current state we're better then indonesia in everyway except size and population
@@manridingabear1591 That’s also true. It’s probably the blackest pages of Dutch/Indonesian history. Sure not something to be proud off.
My grandfather was drafted to serve in the Dutch East Indies Army(KNIL), my father told me that he spoke of when the Japanese army came ashore in their landing craft, while they were posted in the bay of Manado. They came with a swiftness, carrying fully automatic weapons and gear that was superior to their old carbines; KNIL just wasn't up to par with the Japanese fighting force. After skirmishing here and there, they pulled back deeper into the Minahasan peninsula to start a guerilla, but since the Japanese started pushing they were only to be captured and made POW. He had no bad memories of it and all he had was a bullet in his leg as remembrance.
There is not much info about this battle and as a long term follower of your channel i highly respect your ambition for making these videos(not just this series). They're a great and refreshing look into history.
Both of my grandfathers from my mom as my dad's side fought in those wars and were POW's. My mom told me how hard life in those camps were. After the wars they had to start a new life in The Netherlands. Some of my uncle's and aunts were born in Indonesia, on the ship to The Netherlands or in the country itself.
Growing up in Indonesia in the 1980s, learning history which includes occupational by the Dutch then the Japanese, it’s weird to learn about the invasion from the military strategy point of view.
Great video and very informative!!
My grandfather did not participate in this battle. Wrong franchise, no hyperspace lanes, lame.
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Amazing new channel by the way!!!
Check out Wizards and Warriors guys :D
Hi Devin!
Woahh cant wait for another WH Fantasy or 40k videos!!!
@@pyeitme508 Ofc he is
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Just some fun fact to show the scale of the conflict: The netherlands had more soldiers in Indonesia than Germany has active Soldiers today in total (~63k Soliders)
Thanks for another amazing video. First time I learnt about the Dutch East Indies submarines scoring so many hits. Truly underrated.
The Dutch East Indies seems to be really difficult to defend since you have to spread your forces out so much. The attackers can just choose which island they want to attack so they will have the advantage
Why are you writing in the present tense?
@@JohnDoe-xj2ek Because het KNIL has risen again and are planning a attack on Indonesia👀😜
@@TimDutch
To revive KNIL you need Indonesian natives to fill the ranks since dutch lack manpower.
To get Indonesian natives to fill the ranks, you need to conquer Indonesia first
To conquer Indonesia you need sizeable army
To get a sizeable army, you need to revive KNIL
To revive KNIL--
@@SetuwoKecik I hope you understand that my comment was ment as a joke. Whether or not it would be a feasible operation, the Dutch have no intention of conquering Indonesia again.
Oh jokes aside, it's actually quite easy to defend in long term since this archipelago is filled with jungles.
The defenders can simply retreat to the interior of island if the key cities got occupied by the enemy, which effective for prolonged war especially if the locals supported your cause, which was not the case for dutch government when Japanese came, but indeed the case for Indonesian revolutionary fighters during 1945-1949 when they fought against the dutch. Think about Vietnam but bigger.
This episode btw, looks very good. It's easy to follow the troops movements, and the shooting/navies are amazingly well shown!
At my age I have been very fortunate to have worked with or met numerous veterans of the Pacific war. Invaluable first hand experiences. Also my father served in north Africa Sicily and Italy. In addition one of my uncles was with Merrill's mauraders.
The 41st Division (Philippine Army) was under General Vicente Lim. The said unit were opponents of the IJA at the Abucay Line.
Carlos P. Romulo was accompanying MacArthur during his visit to the Bataan frontline. Romulo interviewed Gen. Lim, and asked if his men had been eating. The general replied that he forgot when was the last time that he ate.
My grandfather only participated in the re occupation mission after the war. Up to this day I don't understand why he's still proud of it. Committing war crimes to occupy a former colony, after surviving being occupied for 5 years himself, with American money while the homeland was in ruins still.
From what I've previously read in multiple sources, mainly World War 2 RUclips and IG channel, the paratrooper unit that took part in Manado-Minahasa campaign is paramarine, possibly the most elite front-line unit in entirety of Imperial Japanese Armed Forces. Probably only around 2-3 regiments ever existed.
Greetings from Manado & thank you Kings & Generals to highlight this battle. There were many Japanese fortified caves that still existed and spread today in Minahasa region especially in Kawangkoan and Sawangan
My country is the forgotten front of pacific war...probably because were largely bypassed by allies with the liberation of the Philippines.
Phillipines was under USA when the Japanese comes, so that way USA will use their priorities towards Phillipines. And the USA already have plans to invade the Japanese main islands if Japan did not surrender in 1945.
But actually, Morotai in North Mollucas and Jayapura in Papua was already under the Allies before the Hiroshima bombings. And they took Morotai as the base to invade Java.
There's some fine Dutch courage on display, this week.
You can say lots about the dutch but nobody ever called them cowards :D
Most of the soldiers were Indonesians
@@christophertito8118 it's half half some of them are native some of them are Colonial
@@christophertito8118 From the landforce is was in total 34.000 active personel of whom 2/3 was Indigenous and 1000 officiers of whom 850 were Dutch.
@@christophertito8118 indeed but not an overwhelming majority, the dutch were still substantial in quantity
Im so proud of you, its so detail, even in Indonesian history book it's not written
I can't wait for the part in West Java, I hope they also discuss the battle of Kalidjati and Leuwiliang
but admiral we only have 15 submarines!
Conrad 'ship a day 'Helfrich: I see no Cthulu down here... other than me
Watching the fall of Malaya, makes me miss my grandfather. He loves to tell stories about him being captured to work on the Death Railway and luckily was sent back cause of some sickness. Very lucky or else I won't be here. One thing he always say: Eat quickly or else the bombs will drop on you if you eat too slow.
That Mental Trauma stuck with him until he passed on.
Troop numbers are something I love I wish we knew how many troops were in each unit you display
That would be quite a task to research I imagine, if not impossible given how many projects this channel is working on simultaneously, as units even in peace time are rarely at 100% of their paper strength for a variety of reasons. Add to that all the attrition of combat, and the strength of units fluctuating throughout a long campaign.
Ship-a-day, truly a good nickname, showing a great achievement in a friendly and humorous manner instead of sounding pompous.
this series is great, on the edge of my seat when ever the notification goes off that a new video is uploaded. thanks for all this awesome work
Samesies
Battle of Bataan
Philippine Army division generals:
41st PA Div was headed by BGen Vicente Lim (Filipino)
51st PA Div was headed by BGen Albert Jones (American)
21st PA Div was headed by BGen Mateo Capinpin (Filipino)
1st PA Div was headed by BGen Fidel Segundo (Filipino)
Kings and generals explain the history of my own country better than a fucking textbook my school curriculum have.
Are you a Japanese? I can say that the Japanese Imperial Army were more 'badass' than the German in Europe. There were so much fronts and islands hopping in the Eastern Front.
@@yojan9238 thought nowadays i live in kyoto for study, my nationality still indonesian so technically i'm an indonesian but i have quite mixed blood of chinese indonesian with japanese.
Honestly yeah i hope more people know about this forgotten history of pacific front because for indonesian like me and other people who live in asean, sea, and pacific it's just as important as the other event that happen in europe at the same time period.
This series and the whole historical theater as well is just super underrated. Nice to see it than the usual Western Front / Normandy or Eastern Front again.
You guys absolutely nailed the look and feel of this video. This production value is amazing.
I hope you guys will also mention the air fight near Semplak (8 Dutch fighters vs 35 Japanese).
My congratulations to the extreme quality of these videos, I loved the format of weekly videos about the details of the campaigns, this makes it possible to delve much deeper and stay engaged watching the next videos. Much success!
My grandfather fought in this battle, in Bataan, Philippines. Sadly we do not know the details, except he was in the engineer division. my mom and aunties were not much interested in learning their father's history, or my grandpa didnt tell them. Even his documents were washed away by the flood in the 70s, but I did learn he will survive the battle, will march in the death march and escape imprisonment.
You need to elaborate more how he escaped imprisonment. I heard that some try faking that they're dying.
@@yojan9238 I dont know much. I just know he survived the battle and escape the death march with a friend. He's just a Filipino among many and he probably escapes in the night. he was very lucky of course because most soldiers especially americans were guarded tightly and any escape attempts were met with death. Many who escape joined the resistance but my grandpa didn't seem to do that. Most of the prisoners will suffer terribly for years many of them dying.
Excellent video 📹
It's amazing how the Imperial Japanese had absolute knowledge about the geography of Philippines, Malaya and sll the big islands of the Dutch East Indies.
They knew all the disposition of all the forces.
They even knew all the hidden jungle paths.
The Imperial Japanese must have reconnitereded for years.
Each of the Imperial Japanese commands must have been dedicated experts in that part of the planned invasion.
Wow
The Japanese actually had began to spying those areas since 1930s.
Great content. The size an complexity of the Japanese invasion is mind boggling. From west to east I believe Indonesia is wider than the continental US.
And it’s all dense mountainous jungle too!
I remember when i played japan for the first time in my Hearts of Iron 4 playthrough, i saw the overwhelming island hopping plans i have to take if i go the historical route, and noped myself to just focusing on china instead (also wasn't a good idea lol)
Well those aren't bad but the preparation time for naval invasion is 1 year for each island. That's the only reason I hate it
Thank you for making this historic video about my countries history. Just like every video that you make, it's brilliant :)
Oh man I used to live in between Muar and Bakri. The road of Japanese advance is now a main road connecting the Muar City to the Bakri town. Very straight which is ideal for both advance and defence
and I am of Indonesian descent, my grandfather is Sumatera, my grandmother is Kalimantan and I am now in the Netherlands
MacArthur only visited his troops in Bataan once on January 10, 1942. Some viewed this as cowardice and lack of leadership, at a time when his men needed a morale boost. This earned him the nickname “Dugout Doug,” as in hiding inside a tunnel while his troops faced death. Jose is not sure why MacArthur did not visit Bataan often, but perhaps, MacArthur wanted to maintain a “more mystical and untouchable” aura.
In Corregidor, MacArthur maintained a brave face. According to Jose, MacArthur was never photographed wearing a helmet. Sometimes, he exposed himself “needlessly” to enemy air attacks and did not seek shelter during ongoing air raids. Jose P. Laurel
The myth of Dugout Doug contends that MacArthur was a coward, who refused to share the dangers of his troops on Bataan, and fled from them, leaving them to endure defeat and brutal captivity, often ending in their deaths.
It is probably accurate to say that MacArthur was not a brave man. In order to be brave, in a physical sense, one must know a fear of physical pain or death. Some men simply have no such fear. George Washington did not. Throughout the French and Indian War and the American Revolution he constantly exposed himself to enemy fire while he led from the front, to the terror of his aides, who were brave men. They marveled that Washington showed no sign of fear, and his only reaction to being fired upon was a look of minor annoyance.
MacArthur’s reaction to enemy fire was one of wry amusement. From his earliest days as an officer he constantly exposed himself to enemy fire, to the amazement of those around him. There is a wonderful scene in the movie MacArthur (1977), based on a true incident during the liberation of the Philippines, where MacArthur goes beyond a forward patrol into an enemy controlled area. As one private whispered to another private, “Who ever heard of a four star general taking the point!”
On Corregidor, MacArthur exposed himself to frequent enemy bombing to the point of recklessness. He visited his troops on Bataan only once, however, who gave him the lasting nickname of Dugout Doug. Why?
The reason was not lack of physical courage but rather his inability to lie to his troops to their face. Washington kept telling MacArthur that a relief force was on the way. MacArthur relayed this news to his troops, but I doubt if he believed it in his heart. A master strategist, MacArthur knew that neither the forces nor the logistics were there for a successful rescue of Bataan, and he could not bring himself to face his doomed men and lie about this while he looked at them.
When directly ordered by FDR to leave the Philippines, he came close to disobeying, something almost impossible to even contemplate for a career American officer, saying he would resign and join the troops on Bataan to fight as a volunteer. He was convinced to obey only with great difficulty. He refused to be flown out, taking a dangerous trip by a PT boat instead, to demonstrate that the Japanese blockade could be penetrated. For the rest of the War his goal was to liberate the Philippines and to rescue the men who had fought under him on Bataan.
MacArthur had a great many flaws, overweening vanity being first and foremost, but all the evidence indicates he was a complete stranger to physical fear and being a physical coward was literally impossible for him.
Yeah i concur with most of your point, the worst thing he have done during war is not even during Bataan defense. Mark felton make excellent video about British relief force try to rescue POW (remember POW in Japanese camp = hell on earth) but Mac Arthur just say "no wait until I'm finished all of formality in Tokyo" BS.
There is a story about Patton and MacArthur where in WW1 Patton doesn't take cover while on an assault and MacArthur doesn't take cover either. Apparently MacArthur was mad at Patton as he couldn't honorably take cover before someone junior to him.
I have read Carlos P. Romulo, MacArthur's aide, about his sympathetic views on MacArthur and also the Bataan soldiers' contempt towards the general.
Romulo wrote a book titled 'Last Man Off Bataan'. It's a thrilling escape story documenting his visit to wartime China, the start of the war in Manila, and especially the night before the Bataan surrender - when Romulo had to leave Corregidor to Bataan and trod his way through the chaotic scenes, to find the last plane that would reunite him with MacArthur in Australia.
@@SoulDuckling126 The man was corrupt and always the politician, but no incompetent coward.
@@derricklarsen2919 I read somewhere that patton filmed/set up his little beach landing under fire but MacArthur did not, yet most choose to believe the contrary because of Patton's unblemished reputation I imagine.
Amazing as always! The spelling of Banjarmasin is really great.
I was born in Muar. Muar is my hometown . The description match with our local history . Good Job Kings and General !!!
The Japanese always had such intricate plans that had to turn like clockwork. This time it worked - amazingly well.
My lovely Indonesia 🇮🇩
My great grandfather was a reservist in the war. He immediately reported and served under the 2nd La Union cadre (which was originally a training) as part of the North Luzon force. I don't quite recall the details but I remember him telling a story of how he (or his brother, not sure) was in a machine gun detachment without any other supporting units but managed to hold off attacks for at least a couple of days. As we know, the defense of the Philippines would later collapse. When that happened, his brother turned guerilla so the Japanese took him as a hostage. Really fuzzy on this but if I'm not mistaken, the brother was shot in the leg and couldn't fight anymore, so at that point the Japanese didn't really bother the family anymore. My great grandfather was buried with military honors in 2009, if I recall correctly. Man was bad ass. He had a lot of stories from then and I'm glad I listened.
The Philippine resistance is quite underrated. When people outside of the Philippines think of the word resistance within the context of the Second World War, they probably think of the French, or the Yugoslavs, or Soviet partisans on the Eastern Front, and probably aren't even aware that the Philippines had a major resistance movement. Unfortunate, as the Philippine resistance was one of the larger and more successful resistance moments of the Second World War. They're right up there with the Yugoslavs. By the time US forces returned in 1944, Japanese forces only controlled 12 of the nation's 48 provinces. Guerillas had effective control of the rest, and played a major role in liberating the country alongside U.S. forces.
This video is worth to watch!! Great videos as always
Totally Matthew
Side note, it should be “Filipino” not “Philippinean”.
..or..the Philipinonanteses
Or just Philippine
Every nationals shall end with an "ian"
Davie504 (probably)
I thought it was Filipinish
@@dalian8677 no, it's Philippinoneanese-ish.
As Indonesian, i really appreciate this series.. Our historian teacher never told about this
Much respect to the valiant efforts of my Dutch counterparts - RIP brave warriors
Valiant efforts to maintain imperialism and oppression of natives? Now the Dutch ships that sank are being chipped away as scrap metal, a little bit of karma seems to have caught up to them.
@@manridingabear1591 come on, needed to forgive and forget. I'd read a few of Pramoedya Ananta Toer novels about the Dutch colonisation era and the atrocities that happened but let's put it aside and build a new peaceful world.
Sincerely, from your friend in the previously British Protectorate of Malaya.😊
@@manridingabear1591 I’m sure the Japanese brought an era of peace and harmony. I wasn’t expecting this response from someone who has a tyrant who is literally responsible for many atrocities himself as a profile pic
@@euro6115 In case you don't know, both Dutch and Japanese ships are being scrapped out for valuable metal. Old Dutch veterans can whine as they like, not gonna stop people from melting the ships and selling it to China. Both of them are oppressive imperialists and it's good to see their actions (disrespect towards the natives) bit them in the back.
@@manridingabear1591 Now you’re bringing up China, the biggest polluter and human rights violator off all..... but yes, stick it to the Dutch. I’m done with you, go continue your dumb arguments on other postings
Imperial Japan invaded the Philippines so they could invade the Dutch Indonesia for the strategic natural resources. That was how the Imperial Japanese thought.
The philippines was actually an important strategic objective in itself not just for oil
Mindanao was a vital island-hopping point for the Japanese invasion of the Dutch East Indies.
Yet the Governemnt Scholars in Philippines always denying that Philippines is not a Strategic location when Most of the public claim they found some remnants of Yamashita's Gold.
@@jaysolano3246 really? That Yamashita's Gold myth also known in Malaya. People said that the Gold was buried in the deep forest in the Peninsula.
@@yojan9238 yep, Every citizen in ours knew about it even one of my relative found 2 gold bars and spend it in casino.
The note in the video saying MacArthur earned the nickname "Dougout Doug" is very unfair when you actually look at the situations and the facts. First, MacArthur fisted Bataan twice while it was under siege not once like stated in the video. He was on Corregidor island the rest of the time. While there he was repeatedly the only person not to seek cover while the Japanese bombed it every day. The man made mistakes but he was very far from a coward (just look at the rest of his military carrier from when he was in combat at lower ranks). MacArthur's role in the Philippines was contacting US Command on what to do in the Philippines which he needed to be on Corregidor island to do. Crossing from Corregidor to Bataan was a very dangerous operation that could only be carried out by night and even then the US lost many of their few small boats they had to travel back and fourth with because Japanese spot lights from the Manila could easily spot them out and sink the boats. So as few travels as could be made from Corregidor to Bataan were made. When you look at MacArthur prior to the retreat to Bataan and his conduct in WW2 and the Korean war he repeatedly visited men on the front lines to see how the situation actually was (which can be important to a general to get a picture of how things actually are and not what you think they are based on reports you get from lower ranking officers trying to put a good face on things).
I'll again say this channel and the podcast that has gone with it has been overly hard on MacArthur. Things they blame him for whether they were his fault or not play no difference on how the Philippine campaigns ends. The bottom line that is what should be important is that MacArthur held out for months longer in the Philippines then the US and Japanese leadership expected him to. That delay that he and his troops caused saved New Guinee from falling and thus stopped the Japanese from either launching repeated bombing runs on Australia "Battle of Britain" style or going through with a attempted invasion of Australia (that would have failed).
Can't watch yet, but this vid already gets a thumbs up. I already know the quality will be 10/10
Good sport Kendall
A series of events that lead to Indonesian independence
The independence really started when the Dutch started/allowed Indonesians to follow higher levels of education.
From that point, it was just a matter of time.
@@Turnil321 not necesaryly, education does not necesaryly mean the arise of nationalism, it is just that many of oyr examples turn out as so
@@Turnil321 in the case of indonesia i would personally argue that education was a factor but other major factors were involved
The Dutch effors at this time are never properly recognized; many historians and most of the public only sees the GB, commonwealth and US forces.
Yeah. Beyond those 3 and the Soviet Union, the actions of the rest of the allies barely get talked about.
I imagine they had lots to fight for
They rarely mentioned the war crimes they've done during their 300 years of occupation in indonesia either, so it balances out
@@yodaiam9305 if you go down that road, there is not _one_ nation on the planet that has a clean memory. At least, any nation that put one foot outside it's borders.
@@yodaiam9305 my dude, not like the indonesians have done better at their records, the majapahit empire started with a guy called raden wijaya commiting the war crime of betraying the mongols with no warning whatsoever, anyways does indonesia mention any serious talk about konfrontasi? Or some talk about how the first sila of pancasila clearly discriminates against atheists, suharto's corrupt and brutal rule although i would partially defwnd the corruption still, the fact we apparently consider prince diponegoro as a national hero for fighting to be the sultan of java, let me repeat not a secular state, a sultanate, he was fighting for his own sake.
How others see WW2 Factions : Axis the bad guys and Allied Forces the the good guys
The Indonesian : Both, both are bad.
Where the WW2 channel of indie Neidell TOTALLY ignored these DEI land battles (until the Java Sea fleet battle), you Kings&Generals team made an ASTONISHING pretty and developed representation of the different scenes!!
WELL DONE !!!!!
It's honestly suprising that Helfrich with his colonial fleet did more damage to the Japaneese than rest of the alied fleets together.
Well that's because for a couple of reasons 1 the US surface fleet had finished taking stock of what happened and were on the fuck do we do next stage, the US will enact its first counter strike in Marshalls and Gilberts in a few weeks. 2 the US subs didn't have working torpedoes because of BuOrd. 3 the British fleet was in the Med and Atlantic and was also trying to figire out what to do after Force Z had been sunk
Kings and Generals is one hell of a good channel...thx for this one ... As a Dutch, I know so much about this period because a part of my family comes from Indonesia ...
Pretty nuts how easily they drive all these battalions back and dominate nearly every encounter they have with allied forces.
I am addicted to you keep it up
Film Moire you aren't alone ;)
Hi Kings and Generals, you channel in historical battles genre is number one channel in RUclips, bravo. Is it possible to do a comprehensive documentary on hugest naval engagement in modern era Battle of Leyte Gulf?
There is no better way to start my work week, with a cup of strong coffee & Kings and Generals while I wait for my fellow electricians to arrive on the job site. Truly splendid
BTW, Jolo is pronounced as "Holo" and the stress is in "lo". Just wanna share
You learn something new all the time, thank you Hans
Yes. Philippine locations should be pronounced in the Spanish way. Like Calaguiman, San Miguel and Baguio as Calagiman, San Migel and Bagyo.
I've been watching all of your materials for years and I loved them. the biggest advantage was that they always provided a full overview of historical events including their background and consequences.
The recent series don't fit me this well. They are becoming more and more military-geek-oriented, overwhelming with details. from my perspective by focusing on details, something bigger is lost.
Maybe aside from these very detail-oriented series, you'd like to also provide some good old times style movies. when in 10 minutes maybe I was not able to recite all the generals and types of weapons used in the campaign, but instead, I could understand well the phenomenon of the peoples of the steppe, the reasons of the Peloponnesian wars, etc.
All the best to you!
Just 100 years before the Dutch and Japanese were trading allies during Japan’s Edo period and the Dutch assisted the Japanese in modernizing Japan and putting down traditionalist rebellions during the Meiji era. How ironic.
The Dutch sometimes even used Japanese as mercenaries
@@nilihcrevo9820 "Amboyna massacre
The Amboyna massacre[1] was the 1623 torture and execution on Ambon Island (present-day Ambon, Maluku, Indonesia) of twenty-one men, including ten of whom were in the service of the English East India Company, and Japanese and Portuguese traders and a Portuguese man,[2] by agents of the Dutch East India Company (VOC), on accusations of treason."
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"Consequently, ten Englishmen,[15] nine Japanese[16][17][18][19][20] and one Portuguese[21] (the latter being employees of the VOC), were executed. On 9 March 1623 they were beheaded, and the head of the English captain, Gabriel Towerson, was impaled on a pole for all to see."
But what wikipedia unfortunately doesnt mention, is the reason for me to refer to this incident: the beheading was executed by ronai/samurai mercenaries.
There are some lively reports of this by VOC officials who were fresh from Holland and didnt had the stomach to coop with that site.
Can't wait for next week episode!
My hometown is mentioned! Yay 🤣🤣🤣
I still don't understand why you made the title card for this series sound like the music sting for a horror movie.
Thank you ,K&G .
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No one talks about the Dutch East Indies. My Opa was a young Dutch colonist on Java when his family was taken into Japanese internment camps, older brothers and father separated from the women and children and worked to death on a railroad to never be seen again. Opa had to eat his own vomit not to starve to death. Conditions were terrible and they were essentially tortured by the soldiers. The trauma was so deeply profound from his time in that camp that he drank himself to death in 2015. Miss you Opa.
Dont worry bechause not only the dutch and urasians but the natives also have their fair shares of forced labors under both japanese and dutch occupation
@@ero6056 first of all, the policies of the dutch had been largely abandoned once the economical situation improved, the dutch really only wanted money and if they didnt have the colonies they would just do tanam paksa in the mainland, secondly there is a difference between being fucking tortured and being forced to farm cash crops and still be allowed to do your own stuff once youre done.
@@Cecilia-ky3uw as i said its not only dutch and euresians who find their way to japanese camp, natives also sometimes find their way to the japanese camp or forced labor site either bechause they symphatized with the previus dutch rule like those ambonese, resist japanese reign after keep getting bamboozled by them or just unlucky enought to get sended to the forced labor camp by soeharto under japanese request.
Also hold your dutch bias bechause tanam paksa has been noted to chausing numbers of famines bechause high taxes for the farmers and dutch being reluctant to importing foods for the sake of profit so i would say that dying from starvation is not much better than dying from being gunned down or worked to death
@@ero6056 indeed tanam paksa has been noted for that, but it is still fairly lenient, and i do not have a dutch bias, really the world has a bias against europe in general, blaming problems not even europe's fault on europe and making out europeans to be this unprecedented evil force
@@Cecilia-ky3uw bro people from Indonisia where literaly starved and tortured by the Dutch in history stop your biased💀🤚🏼
Fun fact: every bad thing the Dutch people did to the Indonesians, the Japanse returned the same behavior back twice as hard.
I hope this series also cover the aftermath of the war
Finally! Was already searching for this subject, and now there is a quality form of it :)
As a Dutchman myself, I did not know about most parts of this Pacific War. I always thought we gave up everything so fast. Without any aircrafts or real army in our homeland (our troops travelled to the frontline by bike), we got rofl stomped by the Germans. Cool to see that we at least had some impact on the other side of the planet!
Nothing wrong with bike use. Multiple armies around that time had bike divisions
that's what baffled me. Dutch East Indie is far more powerfull than its Mother Nation. And I wonder why the Dutch didnt strengthen itself during german expansion,are they underestimating german intention?
@@simplyyellow6240 We thought that our homeland would stay neutral, like in WW1
@@simplyyellow6240 It wasn't more powerfull. Germany was right next to the Netherlands while Japan was miles away. The Netherlands had more soldiers and ships in Europe than in Asia
Everything is amazing in regards to this series. It reminds me so much of the Battlefield documentaries on Discovery all those years ago. I really loved those. Keep up the great work!
As someone whose lived in Manado my entire life, the only time I ever see this map is when I'm looking for the closest McDonalds. Seeing the same map used to illustrate troop movements in a Kings and Generals video is just so surreal.
The presentation of this is extremely impressive, and very welcome for theater of war not often covered in such meticulous detail. If I had one misgiving it's the absence of anecdote, which leaves it all a little dry and procedural. While for your coverage of ancient/pre-modern conflict it's understandable, I'm curious as to what people were actually thinking, in their own words during all this.
I live in the city of Tarakan. And many residents still remember the terrible battle with Japan, the Japanese occupation to the liberation by Australian troops. there are still many remnants of the war there. Most of the Japanese army prisoners died at the hands of the vengeful population
More Indians died during the WW2 than British themselves, protecting British Possessions.
The entire Pacific War by the British were supported by Indian Soldiers. But, UK has never even uttered a word of thanks for the Indian Martyrs that died for them.
Respect to the fallen from me
Also, many Indians in Indian National Army and Azad Hind fought bravely together with the Japanese Army. Respect to all Indians who were on both sides.
@@user-uk8nf8jv6u True most men just fought for the brother next to him
That's not true, the UK has several monuments dedicated to Indian troops. Please educate yourself:
Here are a few I know off the top of my head
Chattri, Brighton, UK. - Indian war memorial
Memorial Gates in London is dedicated to all soldiers in the North African campaign.
Also you have to remember that British soldiers were forced to fight through conscription. The Indian army was completely volunteers only with no forced conscription.
DAMN TRULY A MASTERPIECE OF A VIDEO
Great video! this time it's very coherent and I enjoyed every minute...
Keep it up bigguy, lovin this content
Indonesian Revolutionary Sukarno once stated:
"Do not think of colonialism only in the classic form which we of Indonesia, and our brothers in different parts of Asia and Africa, knew. Colonialism has also its modern dress, in the form of economic control, intellectual control, actual physical control by a small but alien community within a nation. It is a skillful and determined enemy, and it appears in many guises. It does not give up its loot easily. Wherever, whenever and however it appears, colonialism is an evil thing, and one which must be eradicated from the earth"
And yet indonesia proceeded to do some colonialism against the native papuans, the east timorese and also do some good old imperialism against malaysia,
@@Cecilia-ky3uw US and Australia asked Indonesia to invade Timor Leste to prevent the spread of communism. After Cold War, Indonesia was irrelevant and Australia proceeded to steal much of Timor's oil. Now West Timor is more developed than Timor Leste. West Timor people are also Timorese and Catholics, yet they are happy to be part of Indonesia.
@@Cecilia-ky3uw ah yes i see some uneducated outsider who dont even know how much better east timor when its still part of indonesia. Also lets not forget the fact that west papua already have trans papua road and better infrastructure overall compared to the neighboring new ginea who is despite being close to stralia still need to used planes in order to commute between its 5 main cities so who is really to blame here?
Too bad Indonesia is colonizing people today and the guy you quoted worked with the Japanese
@@morewi Indonesia isnt colonizing anyone.
the way you scale the map from large into the small was amazing for me. Do more with Indonesian history please
You guys are god given, thank you for all the knowledge you provide. I'm a subscriber for life