Things you need to know about the latest 2024 update for GTA 3 on Dreamcast: 1) No Dreamcast emulator is capable of running this final 2024 update for Dreamcast (so far, emulator creators need to reprogram their emulators to support this version of GTA III). 2) Only the real hardware can run this version of GTA III (as demonstrated in the video, on both the left and right sides). 3) GTA III on Dreamcast now has full support for controllers with 2 analog sticks and 8 buttons (as seen in the video, and explained below in item 4). 4) Since its launch, the Dreamcast was designed for a controller with 2 analog sticks and 9 buttons; however, the Dreamcast didn’t live long enough for Sega to release a second version of the controller with more analog sticks and buttons. Therefore, the GTA III update takes advantage of this, allowing for better gameplay. 5) You can play without Motion Blur (Left Screen/Dreamcast Style) or play with Motion Blur (Right Screen/PlayStation 2 Style)... Personally, I hate Motion Blur, so I prefer the Left Screen. 6) The game is not using the full capacity of the Dreamcast, there is still a lot of room for improvements. 7) Although the Motion Blur simulates the PS2 version, the game is not running at 480i, but rather at 480p, which consumes more resources, as the VGA Box doesn’t work with games in 480i or 240p... 8) The game can now be played from start to finish, that's right! From start to finish! However, this is not the final version, as the developers will continue working on the project throughout 2025, 8) further improving graphics and performance. 9) The 2 analog sticks are truly analog. 10) There are reflections on cars, roads (when it rains/night), a larger number of cars at the same time compared to the PS2 version, more polygons compared to the PS version... and of course, 480p, which is much better than 480i. I would like to congratulate everyone involved in this Dreamcast GTA III port!!! Many doubted the project, thinking the Dreamcast was weak and from the same generation as the N64.
A quick and basic explanation of how I managed to use a controller with 2 analog sticks and 8 buttons on a real Dreamcast... So, many people don’t know, but there are accessories (like USB4MAPLE, BLUERETRO, etc.) that allow you to connect controllers such as Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox Series, PS3, PS4, PS5, Switch Pro Controller, WiiU Pro Controller, and others to your Dreamcast. With that, let me ask you a question: What do all these controllers have that the Dreamcast doesn’t? Yes, you’re correct if you said more buttons and 2 analog sticks. And that’s how it’s possible to use 2 analog sticks and 8 buttons on a Dreamcast! As I mentioned before, the Dreamcast was designed from the start to support a controller with 2 analog sticks and 9 buttons. However, the console didn’t live long enough for SEGA to release a second version of the controller with more buttons and an additional analog stick. The buttons that exist in the system's programming, but are not present on the official Dreamcast controller, include the second analog stick, the “C” button, the “Z” button, and the “D” button. Many of you may have seen the “C” and “Z” buttons on some third-party Dreamcast controllers, especially for fighting games, and you’ve probably thought these buttons were just front-facing mirrors of the L and R triggers, right? However, these buttons are independent, as is the “D” button and the second analog stick. So, what this GTA 3 update does is make use of all these Dreamcast buttons, or at least the “C” and “Z” buttons and the second analog stick.
I suspect that the "D" button has nothing to do with the "D-Pad" but rather with "Dreamcast" and was very likely intended to be a button similar to the Xbox logo button found on Xbox 360, Xbox One, and Xbox Series controllers, or equivalent to the "PS" button on PS3, PS4, and PS5 controllers... or even the "Home" button found on Nintendo controllers (Wii U/Switch). It’s possible that the "D" button on the Dreamcast was a reference to the console itself and its "Spiral" logo, where the logo might have functioned as an actual button. This button might have allowed toggling between the game and an internet page, or even accessing system-level features, aligning with the Dreamcast’s focus on being an "ONLINE" console. This emphasis on online functionality was a key feature that set the Dreamcast apart from its contemporaries like the PS2 and GameCube.
Another hypothesis regarding the "D" button, based on my personal analysis, is that the "D" button could have been used to toggle between the Dreamcast and the VMU screen, allowing the Dreamcast buttons to directly access the VMU screen when it was connected to the Dreamcast controller.
@@carloscuello8814 I can't say... since I didn't even save through the VMU, let alone save through the SD Serial Port... but I know it's possible to run GTA III on the Dreamcast through the Serial Port, I just don't know if this way it will be compatible with saving without using the VMU/Memory Unit.
Incredible feeling. Seeing this game running on the Dreamcast feels like a good friend who sobered up and put on the running shoes. I remember people arguing IF gta3 was even possible on DC with the kind of hardware resources it had. As much as I am a PS2 kid inside, this proves that with hard work, love, understanding and passion, even the most difficult work can pay work off. This is a great achievement, great job and kudos to the devs!
To be honest, the frame buffer motion blur was an early attempt to mitigate the REALLY nasty flickering of the 480i output of the PS2... We can definitely do without the effect and run it in a "clean" dreamcast mode instead. ;)
Note: There is no "ISO" of a GD-ROM to download from the project page. You have to follow a guide and compile it for yourself. You'll also need a PC copy of the game to harvest the files from. This is no doubt to prevent them from getting a C&D letter from Rockstar.
@@arciks11 Well, its not just Take 2/Rockstar they have to worry about. Every one of the license holders for each song in the game could file a takedown notice. It will honestly be a surprise if this makes it to a release candidate quality build.
not really. Sega released the dreamcast as a stop gap system. It had enough in the tank to keep up with ps2 graphically. In someways even surpassing it. But the company by the time they released the sega saturn already didn't knew what they where doing. Sega would have been better of late to the party then beeing ahead of it. if sega opted for the naomi 2 board a few years later they probably could have at least competed with the ps2 and still be around.
@@tom-ot8kg I believe Gran Turismo is pretty much impossible (though the Dreamcast did get close with games like Metropolis Street Racer and Test Drive Le Mans(?)), though San Andreas (which while still being very difficult) COULD be possible if the size of the game wasn't an issue (which for the Dreamcast, it unfortunately is) but even then, we don't have the source code for those games (we do however have the source code for Jak and Daxter 🤔...) However, most cross-platform third party games could've ran on Dreamcast with barely a few issues (again, assuming the lack of storage space on the GD-ROM is not being accounted).
@@2fernandoc1Gran Turismo 3 is actually not that hard. It's not pushing a lot of polygons or effects. What makes the game that beautiful is the art direction that is awesome.
@@thalesonic But GT3 was pushing effects not typically not seen on Dreamcast such as the vehicle reflections. It looks better than any DC racer while still running at 60fps (an actual stable 60 too). Maybe it's possible to squeeze something similar out of the DC, the console never reached its potential in its life. I just wouldn't take it as an absolute guarantee.
@@Hpalhazred this is still not on par with something called crazy taxi 2 that runs at a rock solid 60fps ,ok crazy taxi is less demanding at the same framerates but..
@@HpalhazredI don't understand why it's so hard for them to comprehend this. I do remember GTA 3 Dreamcast previews back in the game magazines like Egm but PS2 was the correct call. They moved it there for a reason.
Motion blur is supposed to smooth low framerate like 30 or add a pleasant, CORRECTLY smoothed image at 120+ fps. In this case it's just works badly and drops frames even lower than it was (pretty low already).
PS2 runs a lot better with a lot further draw distance and less pop in. This also clearly has waaaaaay lower texture detail and is missing a lot of the more complex particle and shader effects that ran on PS2. Look at any of the signs with writing on. Crisp on PS2, just blurry on here you can barely read stuff like pay n spray or various billboards.
@@pgr3290 The render distance is actually a good deal further than on PS2, it's just the model streaming is buggy and incomplete, so it doesnt smoothly load anything. And iirc when it comes to textures, they just haven't all been converted to utilize the Dreamcasts texture compression mode yet; this is still in alpha, it's just enough to play the whole game now.
@@DigiSpaceProductions The problem is render distance setting (the LODs) as you are seeing is meaningless without the ability to stream texture data and geometry fast enough. So the actual distance you see everything is far far shorter than on PS2. It's a core part of the game's technology that made it possible to create a city without the pop in and low quality assets in your face. DC probably cannot do it. It cannot do it here even with lower resolution textures, way below that of the PS2's quality. It's a very stripped back game. It has to go a very long way to make the streaming work and it's honestly one thing that I have not seen improved in all the time we have seen builds the past six months. Nothing appears until you're right on top of it, which is a huge boost for the framerate. If it's even possible to stream and push the assets faster than render performance will be far lower than this.
@@DigiSpaceProductions PS2's draw distance is way further. There is no doubt about that. The streaming was a big question, whether Dreamcast could do it. It seems not. So it ends up looking a lot worse driving around with all the textures and buildings jumping in
I honestly thought for a minute that this was comparing the PS2 to the Dreamcast version. Whatever black magic they used to make it look this good is insane.
I'm so happy to see all these crazy things really happen. I prefer with no motion Blur, 100% Dreamcast style, but it's awesome to have both options. For the next year I expect a little simpler assets in trade of better draw distance/performance. Everything about this project is surreal and amazing!
Je n'aime pas le motion blur. L'image n'est pas net. Qu'il soit utilisé par moment, par exemple quand il meurt ou évoquer des souvenirs pourquoi pas mais constamment non.
É incrível o trabalho que foi feito nesse port e que ainda vai melhorar mais um pouco(pois ainda tem cerca de 20% do powerVR para ser usado),todos estao de parabéns pelo trabalho e por dar o verdadeiro respeito que o dreamcast sempre teve e não era dado! E por fim,como na live do canal Nai adventure foi dito:GTA vice city já está abrindo no dreamcast...!!!
I forgot how jarring the motion blur was. That opening cutscene...ooph hasn't aged well with it on. This has come along way from the summer. It went from d pad controlled to analog. Also compared to the first build you enter vehicles smoothly.
@@jsr734yeah ps2 definitely had an advantage when it came to motion blur, depth of field effects etc. And lighting/shadowing took less toll on performance too. Still, I enjoy the DC textures, they're pretty clean and less muted than Sony's console
Though the non-blurred version looks a little pale in comparison to the blurred one, but imho visually it better reflects the real framerate. Blurred version seems to be slower.
Amazing work from the devs ! Incredible! Now I wish they port other games that should have been released to the plataform like sega scud racing and daytona 2.
@retroboy-fh1ji Actually Daytona USA 2 could run fine on the Gamecube and Xbox without downgrades since those systems are a bit more powerful and feature filled compared to the sega model 3 step 2.0. Those two systems are powerful enough for a perfect port. Especially since they can throw around polys and textures with ease. PS2 would have texture downgrades but the polycount isn't an issue. No aa and certain modifications to effects also. Dreamcast would need minor texture downgrades and geometry cuts in certain areas.
@@waterheart95 you are forgeting about outrun 2006 and gt4... Push much more power than the daytona 2 arcade or Scud racer. Ps2 would do those convertions without any problems even with the textures.
Brings back more memories of GTA III 1. I'm intrigued if any of the PS2's awesome cheats will added for the Dreamcast. 2. Using English word play and slang to make dirty references in company names. Always gives me a chuckle.
Esse port está ficando cada vez melhor, mas sinceramente eu sempre imaginei que se a Rockstar realmente quisesse ela conseguiria portar o jogo para o Dreamcast. Nessas horas eu fico imaginando se GTA III tivesse sido feito tendo o hardware do Dreamcast em mente (já que até onde os desenvolvedores disseram eles migraram para o PS2 em uma fase bem inicial de desenvolvimento e não se tem registro nem de um protótipo) como será que o GTA III seria, já que apesar de muitos aspectos ele ser inferior tecnicamente ao PS2 ele também tinha inumeras vantagens e creio que uma das maiores delas era a arquitetura, já que diferente do PS2, era relativamente facil programar para o Dreamcast, especialmente se considerarmos que o Dreamcast tinha suporte ao Windows CE e DirectX.
The left is way better. Maybe they improve the framerate of motion blur mode, but as of now, the one on the left destroys the one on the right. IMO, even on PS2 these R* games look better with motion blur off.
This is awesome, could you possibly give us a tutorial on how to use both analog sticks and extra buttons? I have a blueretro and brooks but I can't figure out how to configure without assigning the face buttons to the right stick.
I love the dreamcast its one of my favorite consoles. But through this game, we can see that the ps2 had more hardware power. Imagine porting san Andreas to dreamcast... With gta 3 here, we can already see the dreamcast limitations.
@@sandromarquesferreira7321 He said he fond of the DC, don't go around silencing people just because they say negative things about something you like. To the original commenter, the title is incorrect, there are more optimizations on the way.
@@sebastiankulche you and your lover kept implying the same thing about gta3 too. How many times will you have to be wrong before you realize silence is golden?
Hey guys I want to tell you, Someone on the homebrew working on the GTA 3 (RE3) on the Wii and GameCube, the Wii and GameCube based on the ps2 ver. But he wants little help cuz he is new to the programming on the Wii and GameCube homebrew apps. And yeah
The blurring is exaggerated in the cutscenes... unless that's how ps2 looked like... but as proof of concept, works flawlessly. Also, I see phong shading through reflection maps? Cool! This project really shows what Dreamcast was capable of. I certainly would like to see some Metal Gear Solid 2 port with a similar motion blur 😅
@@Haywood-Jablomie Not really. I mean the games runs around 20-30 in general. They added the mblur as it was practically free on PS2 and at the time it was seen as a cool "next gen" effect. Many games running 60fps also used similar blur so it was more a visual FX than something to mask low frame rate. Now in retrospective we can all admit its not looking so good. but back then it was talked about as the best thing since sliced bread :)
Dreamcast was a beast console! Released in 1998, 2 years before the PS2 but was more capable! 480p DC vs 480i PS2 demostrate that Dreamcast was a great and powerful console!
Viva essa tendência boa de portes de jogos para consoles clássicos! A comunidade de Mods é demais! Assim como a comunidade de preservação de clássicos e versões de jogos a muito esquecidos, lost medias ou que nunca foram lançados.
@@sandromarquesferreira7321 underground 2 is superior. I think the dreamcast can handle perfectly. Isn't something impossible, just reduce some effects and polygons and everything would be okay. The real demanding games are something in the level of Gran Turismo 4, Shadow of the Colossus and God of War 2.
Ah, sorry I misunderstood. As far as I know, the developers have integrated support for adapters. These probably support various controllers with two sticks.
Todo el mundo pidiendo need for speed underground para dreamcast 😂 y esta bien, es un buen juego, pero dreamcast ya tiene buenos juegos de ese estilo, creo que seria bueno aprovechar la ocasion para traer a dreamcast juegos de generos en los que escasea o no tiene buenos titulos, como por ejemplo carreras de motos o carreras de rallys, porque aunque dreamcast tiene sega rally 2 y v rally 2 son un poco desastrosos, sobre todo v rally 2 😂 sin duda dos titulos que estaria muy bien traer a dreamcast son: colin mcrae rally 2 de pc y sobre todo GP 500 que encima en su dia iban a salir en Dreamcast y se cancelaron 😢
For so many years people would say the DC couldn't handle GTA 3, and i've always known that it could. It should have been obvious to anyone with a brain. The only limitation is the 16MB main RAM, but in many other areas the hardware is superior to the PS2. So many games look better, have higher texture res, run at a higher resolution AND in progressive scan, which is more demanding than all that early and nasty looking interlaced crap on PS2. Progressive scan @ 640x480 was completely standard on DC. Not PS2. Even extremely basic things like colours are vastly better on the DC due to it not needing to compress texture colour data and having a proper RGB output. Many DC games were doing all this before the PS2 even came out and devs were just getting to grips with the DC hardware. It literally took years before the PS2 visually started to rival the DC, and by that point it was old news and i'd moved on to PC and Xbox.
God knows what kind of an asshole sony was up to this date and people began noticing just now. Soon as the first person figures out ps2 laser wears out after a while there should have been piles of lawsuit against them and they allowed sony to get away with lots of things until today.
It's a nice story but not really true. Games built for Dreamcast ran best on Dreamcast because they utilized the strengths of DC hardware. The ports were not utilizing PS2's hardware to its own strengths. However there is no Dreamcast game in equivalent genres that look as good as Metal Gear Solid 3 or Gran Turismo 4 or Final Fantasy 12 IMO. Dreamcast was designed to run fairly simple shaded games at 480p and 60FPS, to facilitate Sega's arcade ports. Sony's machine was designed to run complex shaders and particle effects DC could never do, and so heralded that future direction of more complex and dynamic environments. GTA3 was only the start of what PS2 did. Ultimately it was an early title on new hardware.
"It literally took years before the PS2 visually started to rival the DC" Like 1 year. "and by that point it was old news and i'd moved on to PC and Xbox." Speak by yourself. Practically 99% of people had a PS2.
Believe it or not, it seems Dreamcast outputs at 16 bit color with dithering. Lots of Ps2 games use 24bit or 32bit color output. Almost all Ps2 games that i have tested output more colors on screen than the same game on Dreamcast.
@@jsr734 Yeah some games on DC used dithering, but not all. What i was talking about is how so many PS2 games used a CLUT (Color Lookup Table) with 8-bit indexed colours. 8-bit is just 256 colours. It wasn't always used on every texture, but it was common to see. Some games even used 4-bit (16 colours) in some areas. These 4/8-bit coloured textures were then blurred together after texture filtering is applied, which technically produced more colours on the screen, but they were still made up of just 16 or 256 colours. PS2 also used something similar to S3TC (DXT1) compression which further affected the colours. All of this was done because it only has 4MB VRAM, compared to the DC's 8MB. So on PS2 the reds look more orange, yellows look more brown and so on. It reduces colour accuracy and saturation and produces a "muddy" looking image. This is why PS2 games look washed out/dull or grey/brown in comparison to DC games. When combined with its lack of RGB output it makes this problem worse and you end up with a significantly less appealing blurry muddy image. Even my Saturn had sharp vibrant colours due to it's excellent RGB/SCART. So coming to the PS2 after years or seeing sharp and colourful games really put me off that console.
Я все ещё смотрю и не верю своим глазам, GTA3 на Dreamcast. Это "невозможный порт". Какие то пионеры портировали игру на коленке бесплатно, развлечения ради. Гигантская корпорация у которой есть штат програмистов, они уже делают игру, у них есть SDK Dreamcast, DevKit Dreamcast и поддержка SEGA: "нет, мы не будем этого делать, мы не станем выпускать GTA3 на Dreamcast". Иногда денежным мешкам нехватает чуточки авантюризма. Просто иногда денежные мешки могли бы делать классные вещи, если бы 99% их мозга не было занято размышлениями о том, как съэкономить пару баксов. Мир совершил гигантский скачек в эпоху существования социализма, но теперь, когда деньги опять правят миром, мы видим как планета снова скатывается в замшелый феодализм, и люди убивают друг друга за ресурсы. Ресурсы, которые превратятся в цифры на банковских счетах, а потом "сгорят" в пламени инфлдяции. Какой глупый мир, топчемся на месте из за каких то бумажек, когда могли бы идти вперед, покоряя вселенную.
I agree my friend! Publishers give too much attention on the maximum profits and advertisementrs, while it was ALWAYS! ALWAYS! about creating good games! Mix great books, movies, music, art, personality, character, presentation, quality and a play toy in one and you got a GOOD game, that 1st) GAMERS 2) general public want to buy!!!
IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT THE EVOLUTION, QUALITY, RESOURCE MANAGEMENT. I remember people trying to impress people with their NEW "PS", when now it's people buying "PS" products to impress the general "PS" public. What the blyat man
Тут, кстати, еще больше полигонов у автомобилей, больше объектов на карте, вроде водонапорной башни, где сохраняется клод, которой не было на PS2, как и некоторых ограждений дороги, пожарных лестниц у зданий и т.д.
Сони же купила временную эксклюзивность ГТА 3 чуть ли не на год. Так что Дримкасту этот порт все равно не помог бы. Но как сам факт существования порта в таком отличном качестве - это конечно очень впечатляет. Модельки взяты из более поздней версии, чем пс2, поэтому и объектов больше, насколько я понимаю. Круто, что Дрим это все вывозит да ещё и в 480р.
Dreamcast é Atemporal mesmo! Dreamcast sem Motion Blur=Modo Performance Dreamcast com Motion Blur=Modo Qualidade Dreamcast finalmente mostrando a Verdade ao Mundo Gamer, que por muito tempo foi desinformado sobre o Verdadeiro Poder do Console de Sexta Geração da Sega!
Dreamcast was really impressive, even if it's much less powerful than PS2 overall, it still has great merits: about 2x smaller than PS2 and 2x less energy consumption, released a year before, much cheaper, and the games remained visually and artistically pleasing (textures, some good enough effects, image quality) even if they were technically inferior to PS2 by far, best looking games like Shenmue 2 and DOA2 and Sonic Adventure 2 remained beautiful and quite impressive throughout this generation and did not push Dreamcast to the limit (because developed with tools and techniques dated from the previous generation)
Vice City and GTA III producer said on Twitter that if they can make GTA III works he is sure that they can do the same with VC, because they are pretty much the same game code wise.
This version seems to have brought many, many improvements, but honestly, the game seems to run better without Motion Blur. But my biggest criticism of this game is the translation into Brazilian Portuguese, which doesn't seem very natural and needs proofreading. The developer of this version of GTA could use the transcripts from the Definitive Edition and put them into this game, although it would take a bit of work.
It has english language if you wanna, but since VCDECIDE is brazilian, he chose to use the translation (I also think that the translation is faulty at some points).
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@@ismaelsilva223 I see. I noticed that it is possible to "compile" the ROM with the game files and that the translation was just a separate mod. I realized that I commented pure nonsense earlier. I still have a lot to learn! 😅
Acredito que a maior dificuldade desse port foi os 16mb de ram do Dreamcast, que é pouco, pena a Sega não ter lançado um expansor de ram igual o Saturn e o Nintendo 64.
There has always been failed consoles but i truly feel the dreamcast was way ahead of its time most ports to the console were amazing and i feel it was gratley inpacted by a few things firstly the failure of saga's previous consoles. Saga in the 80s and early 90s was possibly the biggest console conpany around. The sega megadrive and mastersystem were massive sucesses but it wasnt untill saga realsed the saturn that was extremely powerful for the time but was rushed out with only a few games and very limited developer support in regards to kits to utilise the saturn duel cpu this left limited games at realse and also substanderd ports of ps1 games that with the cost being nearly 100 made most people switch to the ps1. When the dreamcast was realsed 3 years later it was a quantum leap in tech and tje games were amazing but by that time saga had lost the respect of most gamers and sony had realsed detailes of the ps2 so again sagas sales were inpacted it still sold because the console was amazing but no were near what the ps1 or even megadrive had done. But i think the biggest thing for the dramcsst was the pirate scene when hackers raalised how easy it was to make pirates games it doomed the cojsole commercialy as half the people were getting copys. That being said to me dreamcast is my favourite console off all time and alot of its games still hold up today i would love to see indi devlopers crate new games for the console as i know they would be able to get so much more out of it then what we got.
It would have been possible. The reason why it wasn't ported is simply because the Dreamcast was discontinued before VF4 was even released in the arcades.
@@JoshuaKittle VF4 on DC would of likely had better textures than the PS2 version, similar to DOA2, not sure about the polygon and lighting detail though.
@@gamerxt333yeah superior textures but heavily pared back stages with less particles and simplified lighting I suspect. It still would've been awesome
parabéns ao cara que fez, não sei como ele fez afinal o Dreamcast é no mínimo 50% mais fraco que o ps2 mas pelos cortes ele acrescentou nevoa estilo turok na areas aberta, removeu skybox quando o blur é usado, a iluminação continua plana, não usa mipmapping por isso tem shimering, reduziu o trafego e está rodando a 15fps parabéns achei que esse jogo nem abriria.
No at least 300% less powerful that the ps2, in fact is near n64 level. We should address the dreamcast port of gta3 as a demake! Oh Jesus, you sony fans are hylarious 😂
Ive always loved the Dreamcasts razor sharp picture, especially when running through a VGA box in 480. The games look amazing on my old crt PC monitor, HOTD2 especially. Always disliked the PS2's less defined out put. This port is amazing, the guy's who did it have done some magic here. Man, if only they would consider doing Vice City, if they can do standard GTA3 running this well at 480p than VC should be doable. Imagine a full Vice City on Dreamcast, nice sharp graphics, and the full original soundtrack. I reckon it would look similar to the original X Box port of VC, which looks way better than the PS2 one, much sharper and clearer.
On ideal world publishers would had listened developers, and we would had this game on Dreamcast and much more all those years ago. Peoples make mistakes, like purchase crappy console(s), but developers shouldn't be forced to live & work based by those bad choices made by customers.
Things you need to know about the latest 2024 update for GTA 3 on Dreamcast:
1) No Dreamcast emulator is capable of running this final 2024 update for Dreamcast (so far, emulator creators need to reprogram their emulators to support this version of GTA III).
2) Only the real hardware can run this version of GTA III (as demonstrated in the video, on both the left and right sides).
3) GTA III on Dreamcast now has full support for controllers with 2 analog sticks and 8 buttons (as seen in the video, and explained below in item 4).
4) Since its launch, the Dreamcast was designed for a controller with 2 analog sticks and 9 buttons; however, the Dreamcast didn’t live long enough for Sega to release a second version of the controller with more analog sticks and buttons. Therefore, the GTA III update takes advantage of this, allowing for better gameplay.
5) You can play without Motion Blur (Left Screen/Dreamcast Style) or play with Motion Blur (Right Screen/PlayStation 2 Style)... Personally, I hate Motion Blur, so I prefer the Left Screen.
6) The game is not using the full capacity of the Dreamcast, there is still a lot of room for improvements.
7) Although the Motion Blur simulates the PS2 version, the game is not running at 480i, but rather at 480p, which consumes more resources, as the VGA Box doesn’t work with games in 480i or 240p...
8) The game can now be played from start to finish, that's right! From start to finish! However, this is not the final version, as the developers will continue working on the project throughout 2025, 8) further improving graphics and performance.
9) The 2 analog sticks are truly analog.
10) There are reflections on cars, roads (when it rains/night), a larger number of cars at the same time compared to the PS2 version, more polygons compared to the PS version... and of course, 480p, which is much better than 480i.
I would like to congratulate everyone involved in this Dreamcast GTA III port!!! Many doubted the project, thinking the Dreamcast was weak and from the same generation as the N64.
A quick and basic explanation of how I managed to use a controller with 2 analog sticks and 8 buttons on a real Dreamcast...
So, many people don’t know, but there are accessories (like USB4MAPLE, BLUERETRO, etc.) that allow you to connect controllers such as Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox Series, PS3, PS4, PS5, Switch Pro Controller, WiiU Pro Controller, and others to your Dreamcast.
With that, let me ask you a question: What do all these controllers have that the Dreamcast doesn’t?
Yes, you’re correct if you said more buttons and 2 analog sticks.
And that’s how it’s possible to use 2 analog sticks and 8 buttons on a Dreamcast! As I mentioned before, the Dreamcast was designed from the start to support a controller with 2 analog sticks and 9 buttons. However, the console didn’t live long enough for SEGA to release a second version of the controller with more buttons and an additional analog stick.
The buttons that exist in the system's programming, but are not present on the official Dreamcast controller, include the second analog stick, the “C” button, the “Z” button, and the “D” button.
Many of you may have seen the “C” and “Z” buttons on some third-party Dreamcast controllers, especially for fighting games, and you’ve probably thought these buttons were just front-facing mirrors of the L and R triggers, right? However, these buttons are independent, as is the “D” button and the second analog stick.
So, what this GTA 3 update does is make use of all these Dreamcast buttons, or at least the “C” and “Z” buttons and the second analog stick.
I suspect that the "D" button has nothing to do with the "D-Pad" but rather with "Dreamcast" and was very likely intended to be a button similar to the Xbox logo button found on Xbox 360, Xbox One, and Xbox Series controllers, or equivalent to the "PS" button on PS3, PS4, and PS5 controllers... or even the "Home" button found on Nintendo controllers (Wii U/Switch).
It’s possible that the "D" button on the Dreamcast was a reference to the console itself and its "Spiral" logo, where the logo might have functioned as an actual button. This button might have allowed toggling between the game and an internet page, or even accessing system-level features, aligning with the Dreamcast’s focus on being an "ONLINE" console. This emphasis on online functionality was a key feature that set the Dreamcast apart from its contemporaries like the PS2 and GameCube.
Another hypothesis regarding the "D" button, based on my personal analysis, is that the "D" button could have been used to toggle between the Dreamcast and the VMU screen, allowing the Dreamcast buttons to directly access the VMU screen when it was connected to the Dreamcast controller.
Thanks as usual for your video. Just one question. This latest update allows to save game using SD Serial Port?
@@carloscuello8814 I can't say... since I didn't even save through the VMU, let alone save through the SD Serial Port... but I know it's possible to run GTA III on the Dreamcast through the Serial Port, I just don't know if this way it will be compatible with saving without using the VMU/Memory Unit.
Incredible feeling. Seeing this game running on the Dreamcast feels like a good friend who sobered up and put on the running shoes.
I remember people arguing IF gta3 was even possible on DC with the kind of hardware resources it had.
As much as I am a PS2 kid inside, this proves that with hard work, love, understanding and passion, even the most difficult work can pay work off. This is a great achievement, great job and kudos to the devs!
To be honest, the frame buffer motion blur was an early attempt to mitigate the REALLY nasty flickering of the 480i output of the PS2... We can definitely do without the effect and run it in a "clean" dreamcast mode instead. ;)
It's totally optional in the menu, don't worry. :)
"It's still thinking."
Note: There is no "ISO" of a GD-ROM to download from the project page. You have to follow a guide and compile it for yourself. You'll also need a PC copy of the game to harvest the files from. This is no doubt to prevent them from getting a C&D letter from Rockstar.
Makes sense although even with these precautions it might not be enough.
@@arciks11 Well, its not just Take 2/Rockstar they have to worry about. Every one of the license holders for each song in the game could file a takedown notice. It will honestly be a surprise if this makes it to a release candidate quality build.
I mean I can do it myself but I miss torrents...
This could have changed history.
Not really. The console was already discontinued by the time this game came out.
not really. Sega released the dreamcast as a stop gap system. It had enough in the tank to keep up with ps2 graphically. In someways even surpassing it. But the company by the time they released the sega saturn already didn't knew what they where doing. Sega would have been better of late to the party then beeing ahead of it. if sega opted for the naomi 2 board a few years later they probably could have at least competed with the ps2 and still be around.
The only thing that will change is the minds of those who think that the Dreamcast is a 5th generation console.
Can you all just let someone have a happy thought? Damn
@@SilverXTikal wdym, every Sega fan knows the console was already failing when the ps2 released.
This game not still using the Dreamcast's full capacity is wild 🔥
We need to know if it can run san andreas or gran turismo 3 😂
@@tom-ot8kg I believe Gran Turismo is pretty much impossible (though the Dreamcast did get close with games like Metropolis Street Racer and Test Drive Le Mans(?)), though San Andreas (which while still being very difficult) COULD be possible if the size of the game wasn't an issue (which for the Dreamcast, it unfortunately is) but even then, we don't have the source code for those games (we do however have the source code for Jak and Daxter 🤔...)
However, most cross-platform third party games could've ran on Dreamcast with barely a few issues (again, assuming the lack of storage space on the GD-ROM is not being accounted).
@@2fernandoc1Gran Turismo 3 is actually not that hard. It's not pushing a lot of polygons or effects. What makes the game that beautiful is the art direction that is awesome.
@@thalesonic But GT3 was pushing effects not typically not seen on Dreamcast such as the vehicle reflections. It looks better than any DC racer while still running at 60fps (an actual stable 60 too).
Maybe it's possible to squeeze something similar out of the DC, the console never reached its potential in its life. I just wouldn't take it as an absolute guarantee.
@@tom-ot8kg gran turismo 3 isn't demanding. Gran Turismo 4 is much more impressive and harder to port to a Dreamcast
This project is very impressive. I always knew that Dreamcast could run a 3D GTA.
Thanks for the comparison
It cant, and even less with the clunky tools available back in the days for 3D devs, at least not the way it shipped on PS2 and Xbox.
@@Hpalhazred It clearly can.
@@Hpalhazred this is still not on par with something called crazy taxi 2 that runs at a rock solid 60fps ,ok crazy taxi is less demanding at the same framerates but..
@@HpalhazredI don't understand why it's so hard for them to comprehend this. I do remember GTA 3 Dreamcast previews back in the game magazines like Egm but PS2 was the correct call. They moved it there for a reason.
@@Hpalhazred Head Hunter, Fighting Force 2, Shenmue I & II would like a word.
“Wait here while I talked to Luigi” that aged well
Luigi did nothing wrong
On Hardware from '98. Very impressive.
Happy new year! 🥳
It is definitely better without motion blur. But it the MB was a bit more subtle, it might have look good as well, at least onely for cut -scenes
Apparently they give you the option to choose a level of motion blur, this is the strongest, which doesn't look good to me.
I always hated the motion blue on the PS2. Other people seemed oblivious to it, though.
Motion blur is supposed to smooth low framerate like 30 or add a pleasant, CORRECTLY smoothed image at 120+ fps. In this case it's just works badly and drops frames even lower than it was (pretty low already).
Hello !!! Can we say "THANKS" for all works you did for us this year ? I loved it ( personnaly)
Now make PS2 version vs Dreamcast version video
That video when released gonna push a pool of tears!
PS2 runs a lot better with a lot further draw distance and less pop in. This also clearly has waaaaaay lower texture detail and is missing a lot of the more complex particle and shader effects that ran on PS2. Look at any of the signs with writing on. Crisp on PS2, just blurry on here you can barely read stuff like pay n spray or various billboards.
@@pgr3290 The render distance is actually a good deal further than on PS2, it's just the model streaming is buggy and incomplete, so it doesnt smoothly load anything.
And iirc when it comes to textures, they just haven't all been converted to utilize the Dreamcasts texture compression mode yet; this is still in alpha, it's just enough to play the whole game now.
@@DigiSpaceProductions The problem is render distance setting (the LODs) as you are seeing is meaningless without the ability to stream texture data and geometry fast enough. So the actual distance you see everything is far far shorter than on PS2. It's a core part of the game's technology that made it possible to create a city without the pop in and low quality assets in your face. DC probably cannot do it. It cannot do it here even with lower resolution textures, way below that of the PS2's quality. It's a very stripped back game. It has to go a very long way to make the streaming work and it's honestly one thing that I have not seen improved in all the time we have seen builds the past six months. Nothing appears until you're right on top of it, which is a huge boost for the framerate. If it's even possible to stream and push the assets faster than render performance will be far lower than this.
@@DigiSpaceProductions PS2's draw distance is way further. There is no doubt about that. The streaming was a big question, whether Dreamcast could do it. It seems not. So it ends up looking a lot worse driving around with all the textures and buildings jumping in
I honestly thought for a minute that this was comparing the PS2 to the Dreamcast version. Whatever black magic they used to make it look this good is insane.
It looks almost identical, except the Dreamcast seems to be running at lower fps with the effect turned on.
It's reversed engineered
I remember playing this like 10 fps on my pc back 2002
Were you playing on a 486?
@@Metallic-SunXD
I'm so happy to see all these crazy things really happen. I prefer with no motion Blur, 100% Dreamcast style, but it's awesome to have both options. For the next year I expect a little simpler assets in trade of better draw distance/performance.
Everything about this project is surreal and amazing!
Very interesting. Thanks for the video !
Watch them add a Sonic easter egg on the final build :p This is truly impressive stuff and I welcome any new games being brought for the Dreamcast.
Je n'aime pas le motion blur. L'image n'est pas net. Qu'il soit utilisé par moment, par exemple quand il meurt ou évoquer des souvenirs pourquoi pas mais constamment non.
É incrível o trabalho que foi feito nesse port e que ainda vai melhorar mais um pouco(pois ainda tem cerca de 20% do powerVR para ser usado),todos estao de parabéns pelo trabalho e por dar o verdadeiro respeito que o dreamcast sempre teve e não era dado! E por fim,como na live do canal Nai adventure foi dito:GTA vice city já está abrindo no dreamcast...!!!
I have to be with you on this. Better without motion blur
I forgot how jarring the motion blur was. That opening cutscene...ooph hasn't aged well with it on. This has come along way from the summer. It went from d pad controlled to analog. Also compared to the first build you enter vehicles smoothly.
Dreamcast is struggling with the motion blur effect. It looks smoother on Ps2 even if the fps are not that high.
@@jsr734yeah ps2 definitely had an advantage when it came to motion blur, depth of field effects etc. And lighting/shadowing took less toll on performance too. Still, I enjoy the DC textures, they're pretty clean and less muted than Sony's console
Though the non-blurred version looks a little pale in comparison to the blurred one, but imho visually it better reflects the real framerate. Blurred version seems to be slower.
These guys who are behind this game deserve more recognition for showing such performance that this console has 🎮
30 years later but still impressive
Amazing work from the devs ! Incredible! Now I wish they port other games that should have been released to the plataform like sega scud racing and daytona 2.
Scud Race can be possible, but Daytona USA 2 Battle on the Edge would probably need to downgrade to work on Dreamcast or any 6th gen console.
@retroboy-fh1ji I'd be more than happy with a conversion
Virtua Fighter 4 and Gun Valkyrie would be great to see on the DC, especially because these titles were supposed to be released originally on the DC.
@retroboy-fh1ji Actually Daytona USA 2 could run fine on the Gamecube and Xbox without downgrades since those systems are a bit more powerful and feature filled compared to the sega model 3 step 2.0. Those two systems are powerful enough for a perfect port.
Especially since they can throw around polys and textures with ease.
PS2 would have texture downgrades but the polycount isn't an issue. No aa and certain modifications to effects also.
Dreamcast would need minor texture downgrades and geometry cuts in certain areas.
@@waterheart95 you are forgeting about outrun 2006 and gt4... Push much more power than the daytona 2 arcade or Scud racer. Ps2 would do those convertions without any problems even with the textures.
Brings back more memories of GTA III
1. I'm intrigued if any of the PS2's awesome cheats will added for the Dreamcast.
2. Using English word play and slang to make dirty references in company names. Always gives me a chuckle.
"Tw@ internet cafe"
Queria muito ver Need For Speed Underground para o Dreamcast.😊
Tem um port da atomiswave q e um dreamcast versao arcade, q chama faster than speed e muito parecido com o need dor speed underground
@@mayconwilliam600esse jogo nem passa perto do NFSU.
Quem sabe pode pintar no Dreamcast,pois a versão do Pc caberia sim no GD do Dreamcast
Trails on or off also makes sense why the game looks and controlled the way it did also the map size and loading style
Without motion blue looks better, unless you can adjust the blur levels. It's too strong on this video.
Esse port está ficando cada vez melhor, mas sinceramente eu sempre imaginei que se a Rockstar realmente quisesse ela conseguiria portar o jogo para o Dreamcast.
Nessas horas eu fico imaginando se GTA III tivesse sido feito tendo o hardware do Dreamcast em mente (já que até onde os desenvolvedores disseram eles migraram para o PS2 em uma fase bem inicial de desenvolvimento e não se tem registro nem de um protótipo) como será que o GTA III seria, já que apesar de muitos aspectos ele ser inferior tecnicamente ao PS2 ele também tinha inumeras vantagens e creio que uma das maiores delas era a arquitetura, já que diferente do PS2, era relativamente facil programar para o Dreamcast, especialmente se considerarmos que o Dreamcast tinha suporte ao Windows CE e DirectX.
So what controller can you play with?
3rd party controller with Z and C I suppose unless it has psp controls
I was using a dualshock 4 yesterday to test, works fine
Where can we get a dual analog Dreamcast controller? Amazing work guys!
The left is way better. Maybe they improve the framerate of motion blur mode, but as of now, the one on the left destroys the one on the right.
IMO, even on PS2 these R* games look better with motion blur off.
Where and how I can buy a dual analog stick controller?
This is awesome, could you possibly give us a tutorial on how to use both analog sticks and extra buttons? I have a blueretro and brooks but I can't figure out how to configure without assigning the face buttons to the right stick.
We got GTA3 on Dreamcast before GTA6
I love the dreamcast its one of my favorite consoles. But through this game, we can see that the ps2 had more hardware power. Imagine porting san Andreas to dreamcast... With gta 3 here, we can already see the dreamcast limitations.
silence hater
Unless everything is turn into a flat polygon and load times got increased by x2, i cant see it happening.
SA on DC would look like a PS1 game.
@@sandromarquesferreira7321 He said he fond of the DC, don't go around silencing people just because they say negative things about something you like. To the original commenter, the title is incorrect, there are more optimizations on the way.
@@sebastiankulche you and your lover kept implying the same thing about gta3 too. How many times will you have to be wrong before you realize silence is golden?
@@protocetidThat's what he says, to so many out there who say they like the Dreamcast but are haters in disguise just to disparage the port
Tô acompanhando esse projeto tem um tempo e isso tá sendo muito dahora 👏👏👏
What is that dual analog dreamcast controller?
Por que o Blur desativado deixa o gráfico mais claro?
Hey guys I want to tell you,
Someone on the homebrew working on the GTA 3 (RE3) on the Wii and GameCube, the Wii and GameCube based on the ps2 ver. But he wants little help cuz he is new to the programming on the Wii and GameCube homebrew apps. And yeah
Why is motion blur even a thing? I always turn it off, even in PC games.
The Dreamcast looks slightly better than the Dreamcast.
Anything changed other than contrast?
Looks much better with this horrible blur turned off.
I can live without motion blur.
Does anybody know when this is coming to emulators? 🤯
The blurring is exaggerated in the cutscenes... unless that's how ps2 looked like... but as proof of concept, works flawlessly. Also, I see phong shading through reflection maps? Cool! This project really shows what Dreamcast was capable of. I certainly would like to see some Metal Gear Solid 2 port with a similar motion blur 😅
The blur is just as bad on the ps2! Thank god you can disable it!
The motion blur was implemented on the PS2 version due to a low framerate. It looked horrible, like Vaseline.
Yeah or well. Kind off Phong :) Its just spherical env map.
@@Haywood-Jablomie Not really. I mean the games runs around 20-30 in general. They added the mblur as it was practically free on PS2 and at the time it was seen as a cool "next gen" effect. Many games running 60fps also used similar blur so it was more a visual FX than something to mask low frame rate. Now in retrospective we can all admit its not looking so good. but back then it was talked about as the best thing since sliced bread :)
@@litjellyfish env maps can simulate convincingly, to a certain degree, complex lighting models 🙂
Precisa desativar o rastro pra melhorar o framerate.
Dreamcast was a beast console! Released in 1998, 2 years before the PS2 but was more capable! 480p DC vs 480i PS2 demostrate that Dreamcast was a great and powerful console!
Port for Gamecube or Wii with Gamecube Controller
This is retail console or dev kit/extra RAM console?
Retail, 16mb console
Viva essa tendência boa de portes de jogos para consoles clássicos! A comunidade de Mods é demais! Assim como a comunidade de preservação de clássicos e versões de jogos a muito esquecidos, lost medias ou que nunca foram lançados.
Now make Max Payne 1 DC!
And need for speed underground 1
@@sandromarquesferreira7321 underground 2 is superior. I think the dreamcast can handle perfectly. Isn't something impossible, just reduce some effects and polygons and everything would be okay. The real demanding games are something in the level of Gran Turismo 4, Shadow of the Colossus and God of War 2.
Now this is more like it!!
he real question is:
Will you be able to run GTA San Andreas? Or will you have to settle for a hypothetical GTA Vice City port?
I still thinking one of the things that kills Dreamcast was the cd limitations
Two analog sticks with C LT and Z RT shoulders, how did he make this work on the Dreamcast?
Just read the description. The Dreamcast was actually designed for that.
@@Squadalha It was but there is no control over it.
Ah, sorry I misunderstood. As far as I know, the developers have integrated support for adapters. These probably support various controllers with two sticks.
The Dreamcast isn't limited to its controller. It depends on the software (the game in this case), just like some games can use a keyboard and mouse.
Either way, this is a landmark moment!
Dreamcast version is neat and interesting but i doubt it will be as good as ps2 or xbox version.
Well, Xbox was the real beast
A versão do PS2 chega nem perto da do Xbox,tem nem o que comparar 🤦
Todo el mundo pidiendo need for speed underground para dreamcast 😂 y esta bien, es un buen juego, pero dreamcast ya tiene buenos juegos de ese estilo, creo que seria bueno aprovechar la ocasion para traer a dreamcast juegos de generos en los que escasea o no tiene buenos titulos, como por ejemplo carreras de motos o carreras de rallys, porque aunque dreamcast tiene sega rally 2 y v rally 2 son un poco desastrosos, sobre todo v rally 2 😂 sin duda dos titulos que estaria muy bien traer a dreamcast son: colin mcrae rally 2 de pc y sobre todo GP 500 que encima en su dia iban a salir en Dreamcast y se cancelaron 😢
Игра идет лучше чем на пк тех лет
Ah the good ol days of ghosting in PS games. No wonder I preferred NFS on PC than on PS2.
То что я ждал много лет назад)
For so many years people would say the DC couldn't handle GTA 3, and i've always known that it could. It should have been obvious to anyone with a brain. The only limitation is the 16MB main RAM, but in many other areas the hardware is superior to the PS2. So many games look better, have higher texture res, run at a higher resolution AND in progressive scan, which is more demanding than all that early and nasty looking interlaced crap on PS2. Progressive scan @ 640x480 was completely standard on DC. Not PS2. Even extremely basic things like colours are vastly better on the DC due to it not needing to compress texture colour data and having a proper RGB output. Many DC games were doing all this before the PS2 even came out and devs were just getting to grips with the DC hardware. It literally took years before the PS2 visually started to rival the DC, and by that point it was old news and i'd moved on to PC and Xbox.
God knows what kind of an asshole sony was up to this date and people began noticing just now. Soon as the first person figures out ps2 laser wears out after a while there should have been piles of lawsuit against them and they allowed sony to get away with lots of things until today.
It's a nice story but not really true. Games built for Dreamcast ran best on Dreamcast because they utilized the strengths of DC hardware. The ports were not utilizing PS2's hardware to its own strengths. However there is no Dreamcast game in equivalent genres that look as good as Metal Gear Solid 3 or Gran Turismo 4 or Final Fantasy 12 IMO. Dreamcast was designed to run fairly simple shaded games at 480p and 60FPS, to facilitate Sega's arcade ports. Sony's machine was designed to run complex shaders and particle effects DC could never do, and so heralded that future direction of more complex and dynamic environments. GTA3 was only the start of what PS2 did. Ultimately it was an early title on new hardware.
"It literally took years before the PS2 visually started to rival the DC"
Like 1 year.
"and by that point it was old news and i'd moved on to PC and Xbox."
Speak by yourself. Practically 99% of people had a PS2.
Believe it or not, it seems Dreamcast outputs at 16 bit color with dithering. Lots of Ps2 games use 24bit or 32bit color output. Almost all Ps2 games that i have tested output more colors on screen than the same game on Dreamcast.
@@jsr734 Yeah some games on DC used dithering, but not all. What i was talking about is how so many PS2 games used a CLUT (Color Lookup Table) with 8-bit indexed colours. 8-bit is just 256 colours. It wasn't always used on every texture, but it was common to see. Some games even used 4-bit (16 colours) in some areas. These 4/8-bit coloured textures were then blurred together after texture filtering is applied, which technically produced more colours on the screen, but they were still made up of just 16 or 256 colours. PS2 also used something similar to S3TC (DXT1) compression which further affected the colours. All of this was done because it only has 4MB VRAM, compared to the DC's 8MB. So on PS2 the reds look more orange, yellows look more brown and so on. It reduces colour accuracy and saturation and produces a "muddy" looking image. This is why PS2 games look washed out/dull or grey/brown in comparison to DC games. When combined with its lack of RGB output it makes this problem worse and you end up with a significantly less appealing blurry muddy image. Even my Saturn had sharp vibrant colours due to it's excellent RGB/SCART. So coming to the PS2 after years or seeing sharp and colourful games really put me off that console.
Я все ещё смотрю и не верю своим глазам, GTA3 на Dreamcast. Это "невозможный порт". Какие то пионеры портировали игру на коленке бесплатно, развлечения ради. Гигантская корпорация у которой есть штат програмистов, они уже делают игру, у них есть SDK Dreamcast, DevKit Dreamcast и поддержка SEGA: "нет, мы не будем этого делать, мы не станем выпускать GTA3 на Dreamcast".
Иногда денежным мешкам нехватает чуточки авантюризма. Просто иногда денежные мешки могли бы делать классные вещи, если бы 99% их мозга не было занято размышлениями о том, как съэкономить пару баксов. Мир совершил гигантский скачек в эпоху существования социализма, но теперь, когда деньги опять правят миром, мы видим как планета снова скатывается в замшелый феодализм, и люди убивают друг друга за ресурсы. Ресурсы, которые превратятся в цифры на банковских счетах, а потом "сгорят" в пламени инфлдяции. Какой глупый мир, топчемся на месте из за каких то бумажек, когда могли бы идти вперед, покоряя вселенную.
I agree my friend! Publishers give too much attention on the maximum profits and advertisementrs, while it was ALWAYS! ALWAYS! about creating good games!
Mix great books, movies, music, art, personality, character, presentation, quality and a play toy in one and you got a GOOD game, that 1st) GAMERS 2) general public want to buy!!!
IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT THE EVOLUTION, QUALITY, RESOURCE MANAGEMENT. I remember people trying to impress people with their NEW "PS", when now it's people buying "PS" products to impress the general "PS" public. What the blyat man
Тут, кстати, еще больше полигонов у автомобилей, больше объектов на карте, вроде водонапорной башни, где сохраняется клод, которой не было на PS2, как и некоторых ограждений дороги, пожарных лестниц у зданий и т.д.
Сони же купила временную эксклюзивность ГТА 3 чуть ли не на год. Так что Дримкасту этот порт все равно не помог бы. Но как сам факт существования порта в таком отличном качестве - это конечно очень впечатляет.
Модельки взяты из более поздней версии, чем пс2, поэтому и объектов больше, насколько я понимаю. Круто, что Дрим это все вывозит да ещё и в 480р.
Dreamcast é Atemporal mesmo!
Dreamcast sem Motion Blur=Modo Performance
Dreamcast com Motion Blur=Modo Qualidade
Dreamcast finalmente mostrando a Verdade ao Mundo Gamer, que por muito tempo foi desinformado sobre o Verdadeiro Poder do Console de Sexta Geração da Sega!
like no other is no other Sega
Dreamcast was really impressive, even if it's much less powerful than PS2 overall, it still has great merits: about 2x smaller than PS2 and 2x less energy consumption, released a year before, much cheaper, and the games remained visually and artistically pleasing (textures, some good enough effects, image quality) even if they were technically inferior to PS2 by far, best looking games like Shenmue 2 and DOA2 and Sonic Adventure 2 remained beautiful and quite impressive throughout this generation and did not push Dreamcast to the limit (because developed with tools and techniques dated from the previous generation)
I'm now wondering if Vice City is somehow possible on Dreamcast. This is wild.
Vice City and GTA III producer said on Twitter that if they can make GTA III works he is sure that they can do the same with VC, because they are pretty much the same game code wise.
Gta 3 keeps dreamcast around a little longer if this were to happen
Only if it was a DC exclusive
I always take off any motion blur PC game for a reason.
The psp version is better. It has a high, steadier fps. Graphics are also sharper on the psp.
Impressive.
This version seems to have brought many, many improvements, but honestly, the game seems to run better without Motion Blur. But my biggest criticism of this game is the translation into Brazilian Portuguese, which doesn't seem very natural and needs proofreading. The developer of this version of GTA could use the transcripts from the Definitive Edition and put them into this game, although it would take a bit of work.
It has english language if you wanna, but since VCDECIDE is brazilian, he chose to use the translation (I also think that the translation is faulty at some points).
@@ismaelsilva223 I see. I noticed that it is possible to "compile" the ROM with the game files and that the translation was just a separate mod. I realized that I commented pure nonsense earlier. I still have a lot to learn! 😅
We have cristmass present late, but betterrrr
Acredito que a maior dificuldade desse port foi os 16mb de ram do Dreamcast, que é pouco, pena a Sega não ter lançado um expansor de ram igual o Saturn e o Nintendo 64.
Muito bom. Pena não ter um Dreamcast para testar.
Tem que ter motion blur. Gráficos desse jogo são muito feios para serem jogados crus, tem que jogar um tempero por cima pra dar aquela disfarçada.
Wow very nice❤
Full game?
There has always been failed consoles but i truly feel the dreamcast was way ahead of its time most ports to the console were amazing and i feel it was gratley inpacted by a few things firstly the failure of saga's previous consoles. Saga in the 80s and early 90s was possibly the biggest console conpany around. The sega megadrive and mastersystem were massive sucesses but it wasnt untill saga realsed the saturn that was extremely powerful for the time but was rushed out with only a few games and very limited developer support in regards to kits to utilise the saturn duel cpu this left limited games at realse and also substanderd ports of ps1 games that with the cost being nearly 100 made most people switch to the ps1. When the dreamcast was realsed 3 years later it was a quantum leap in tech and tje games were amazing but by that time saga had lost the respect of most gamers and sony had realsed detailes of the ps2 so again sagas sales were inpacted it still sold because the console was amazing but no were near what the ps1 or even megadrive had done. But i think the biggest thing for the dramcsst was the pirate scene when hackers raalised how easy it was to make pirates games it doomed the cojsole commercialy as half the people were getting copys. That being said to me dreamcast is my favourite console off all time and alot of its games still hold up today i would love to see indi devlopers crate new games for the console as i know they would be able to get so much more out of it then what we got.
imagine if this was a timed exclusive on dreamcast like it was on ps2
Dang it man, I was so upset of rockstar not releasing GTA3 on Dreamcast but I’m glad someone is doing it rn
GTA 3 on dreamcast? Makes me wonder if Virtua Fighter 4 evolution was ever possible on the dreamcast and why sega never ported it.😊
It would have been possible.
The reason why it wasn't ported is simply because the Dreamcast was discontinued before VF4 was even released in the arcades.
@@JoshuaKittle VF4 on DC would of likely had better textures than the PS2 version, similar to DOA2, not sure about the polygon and lighting detail though.
@@gamerxt333yeah superior textures but heavily pared back stages with less particles and simplified lighting I suspect. It still would've been awesome
That’s mission passed wasted on the right side! lol 23:12 😂
Dreamcast is actually better.
Both here are dreamcast
I’m confused what the difference Is Between The Two
parabéns ao cara que fez, não sei como ele fez afinal o Dreamcast é no mínimo 50% mais fraco que o ps2 mas pelos cortes ele acrescentou nevoa estilo turok na areas aberta, removeu skybox quando o blur é usado, a iluminação continua plana, não usa mipmapping por isso tem shimering, reduziu o trafego e está rodando a 15fps parabéns achei que esse jogo nem abriria.
No at least 300% less powerful that the ps2, in fact is near n64 level. We should address the dreamcast port of gta3 as a demake! Oh Jesus, you sony fans are hylarious 😂
DC was always a peak PS1/N64 at a much higher scale and res. Aint gonna touch PS2.
@@sebastiankulche 🤣🤣🤣
@@aureliochiacchiarini2799 You are dmb
Esto es increíble
The one on the right is awful .. arghhh my eyes 😂
parece bem melhor q a versão do ps2 kk bizarro
Sem blur é melhor
Ive always loved the Dreamcasts razor sharp picture, especially when running through a VGA box in 480. The games look amazing on my old crt PC monitor, HOTD2 especially.
Always disliked the PS2's less defined out put.
This port is amazing, the guy's who did it have done some magic here.
Man, if only they would consider doing Vice City, if they can do standard GTA3 running this well at 480p than VC should be doable. Imagine a full Vice City on Dreamcast, nice sharp graphics, and the full original soundtrack. I reckon it would look similar to the original X Box port of VC, which looks way better than the PS2 one, much sharper and clearer.
On ideal world publishers would had listened developers, and we would had this game on Dreamcast and much more all those years ago.
Peoples make mistakes, like purchase crappy console(s), but developers shouldn't be forced to live & work based by those bad choices made by customers.
Its the Time to Buy another SEGA Dreamcast
The motion blur sux
Not PS2 blur at all, look like some PS1 blur lol.
Я всегда выключаю в играх это размытие. Оно раздражает.