Thanks for showing something that is rarely appreciated by the general public. The amount of work and testing the S&T department has to do just to change 4 wig Wags. There is a lot more to it than meets the eye as we see here. In signalling attention to detail is very important hence the amount of time taken to test every part of the circuits worked on.
I wished me old man was still around as he was fond of Gillingham signal box when he was working relief out of there, I seem to remember this crossing was gated but was an early recipient of the automatic arms as it was hard work for the signalman to run down, open gates, close gates etc due to the busyness of the lines there and I seem to remember there was a box boy tasked for that singular energetic job because gates and the opening of interfered with tea, the drinking of. He often had to wander down and un-padlock the Navy branch to let stuff in and out and he would be cursing the inclement weather and sailors alike. I've still too got a chunk of flight deck off of HMS Triumph when they cut her down prior to scrapping in Chatham, I was there with my uncle who was on HMS Warspite and it was like a boys dreams come true, getting a bit of a famous ship AND a guided tour of a nuclear sub with my eyes all agog and everyone very nice too :)
Interesting, but I can't help thinking it'd be less disruptive and cheaper to wait for a halogen lamp module to fail and then replace it with an LED module rather than lifting the whole backboard out.
It’s not as simple as you think. The new unit is assembled and tested in the factory, it is type approved and construction is very closely specified, the most efficient way is to change the whole thing, back board included for an already assembled and tested unit, and Once erected it requires thorough testing to ensure it functions correctly. Working on anything associated with the signalling system (as crossing signals are) requires a closure to rail traffic. The upgrade is not as simple as just plugging in a new fitting. Railway work such as this upgrade has to be done safely and correctly, and isn’t possible to be done with trains running and road traffic passing through an area where lifting etc is being performed. Where rail is involved it is dangerous to cut corners to save time or inconvenience, the greatest inconvenience is to be killed if a system fails because it wasn’t installed correctly.
Really wish I could see some halogen again because my local level crossing (Berry Brow/Clayton Bridge) has not ad them for atleast 5 or 6 years and I miss them
morthren Been to Aylesford today, crossing still has halogen lights. The road closure looked to be for tree cutting and line painting. I'll be checking roadworks times but it's possible that the level crossing won't be touched until at least March time, or if fortunate, June / July time.
Nice to see a crossing being upgraded! I wonder how much those guys would offer for one of the wigwags if you asked for one of them? 6:04 so they left the alarms in place! The alarms seem rather easy to replace!
Forest city in the living room, GEC in the kitchen, Driver's white lights as a lamp above the bed and a NRS above the front door. Oh yeah, and those fences to stop babies? Forget about it. Just put a short GWE in.
That seems like a lot of effort just to replace the lights. Imo the American design is better because they just have to pop the old light out of the visor and retrofit the LEDs. And if they need to replace the entire set of lights they can just remove the bracket... much better.
A very intresting video indeed. I just wonder is this a wig wag without the akoustic signal alarm? And is the signalbox next to the level crossing still in use? In that case the level crossing is controlled from there I guess. Here in the Netherlands manually controlled levelcrossing are very rare. Most of them are automatically acitvated by the passing trains. On "my" local line from Maastricht to Heerlen via Valkenburg (well known also in the UK by its Christmas markets in the caves) was controlled by local signalboxes with mechanical semaphores until 1986. Than came the light signals and automatic level crossings. And the train traffic controlcenter in Maastricht that controls all trainmovements in the whole province of Limburg.
I should have been there the day they did the work safely at the crossing. That way I'll have more recovers the old signals. J'aurais du être la le jour où ils ont fait les travaux sûr le passage à niveau. Comme ça j'aurai plus récupère les anciens signaux.
Joe Thorpe - There were engineering works going on all day. They removed that walkway around the outside of the signal box, along at the station they were working on a new footbridge. Further along past the station they were working on the tracks and points. Plus the wigwag upgrade. It was a busy day!
morthren I didn’t realise that they used cranes to lift the wigwags, plus I didn’t realise it took so long to do it in general, very interesting the way they program the lights, for a min I thought it had a broken red light. Apparently they are upgrading Aylesford Station crossing this week. Are you going to try and catch that?
Joe Thorpe I didnt know how they lifted them either, it was really interesting to watch the whole process. They had to change a card in the controller for the LED lights to work. I think Aylesford is being done at night so a video wouldn't look very good.
morthren Well you’ve solved my problem of wondering how they upgrade crossing lights, they usually have super bright LED flood lights shinning on the crossing when they do work at night so you should still get a great shot of it. Do you know anything about Woodnesborough road, Chillham road and Mill, etc? (As to when they are being upgraded?)
I'll see if I can get down to Aylesford and take a look. I haven't got any information on the upgrade dates of other crossings unfortunately. Gillingham is quite local to me and I knew there was work going on that Sunday so went down to take a look. This is the video I managed to get.
At the end, solid orange doesn't stay on long enough for vehicles to stop before reds start, is this for easy fines to be given as a vehicle will be shown to go over as reds begin flashing so quick
In my area RR personal never put equipment on RR tracks while replacing RR crossing poles or lights. And they should be on street while closed the road. So, where are the trains who want ride on it?
The correct term for this equipment is Road Light Units; "wigwags" is the nickname for them. Nicely captured video of something members of the public wouldn't normally see during daytime. Was this a Sunday?
2:15 According to its manufacturer, Unipart Dorman, it's a "Red LED Railway Level Crossing Fixed Wig Wag Module" - they have a PDF flyer of all their LED rail products on their website.
@@morthren Well damn, my question was going to be the same, "did you ask for one of them?". Amazing that you did and even more so that they let you cos I'd imagine even as scrap value they're worth a pretty penny. Colour me all kinds of jealous! Although your comment of "still got to do something with it" reminds me I still have a Jubilee Line door open button that I need to turn into a doorbell when I get the spare time.
Nathan A RF - Yes, I was told the equipment is going to be removed and used at the Network Rail training school. This team is going to be removing it. I don't know when though. Also, they're going to put automatic barriers in along at Grain. The boss said it's going to be a horrible job because of where it's located.
It's a term used in the UK for alternate flashing lights. The same on emergency vehicles where the headlights can alternate when they have the emergency lights on. They are also referred to as wigwags
Do they really need a "red man" light as well? Doesn't say much for the residents of Gillingham. And it doesn't even flash in time with the main red lights, aaahhhhhh. Never liked those gates that don't have the springy "foot" at the end. Seems like more bending force on the gate than necessary.
It wouldn't be hard for the engineers to set them up. They are trained and know what they are doing. They wouldn't be able to work on them if they didn't know what they are doing.
Patrick Kovar the new LED lights are more efficient and need less maintenance (as the LEDs last a lot longer than halogen bulbs). Someone has calculated that the cost of this work will save costs in the long run. Also the safety factor is better as the bulbs are even less likely to fail
It goes back to Semaphore Flags, the Wig Wag flags where opposites of each other and where shown one after the other. This then led to the technology of lights flashing left and right like these on a Railway Crossing and in emergency vehicles where the headlights flash left them right. The control box is called a Wig Wag…
@@morthren Apparently from what I've heard, Network Rail are donating a lot of these old NRS Halogen wigwags to heritage railways for use on their level crossings. Very few heritage railways use the modern Unipart Rail LEDs on their level crossings, I've only known all but one of the level crossings on the Ffestiniog Railway in Wales and the Minehead Level Crossing on the West Somerset Railway to use them.
Thanks for showing something that is rarely appreciated by the general public. The amount of work and testing the S&T department has to do just to change 4 wig Wags. There is a lot more to it than meets the eye as we see here. In signalling attention to detail is very important hence the amount of time taken to test every part of the circuits worked on.
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Very interesting to see how it's done! At the same time, you can also hear the peal of bells from St. Mary's in the distance!
St. Mary's?
I would've laughed if they dropped one of the new replacement lights
Same.
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I would have too!
6:00 wig wag: they see me rolling, they hating!
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I wished me old man was still around as he was fond of Gillingham signal box when he was working relief out of there, I seem to remember this crossing was gated but was an early recipient of the automatic arms as it was hard work for the signalman to run down, open gates, close gates etc due to the busyness of the lines there and I seem to remember there was a box boy tasked for that singular energetic job because gates and the opening of interfered with tea, the drinking of. He often had to wander down and un-padlock the Navy branch to let stuff in and out and he would be cursing the inclement weather and sailors alike. I've still too got a chunk of flight deck off of HMS Triumph when they cut her down prior to scrapping in Chatham, I was there with my uncle who was on HMS Warspite and it was like a boys dreams come true, getting a bit of a famous ship AND a guided tour of a nuclear sub with my eyes all agog and everyone very nice too :)
It doesnt change anything bro
This is so amazing watching a level crossing being worked on! Thanks so much for the video its really good seeing how its done.
man I would of loved to have the old Level Crossing wigwags
Definitely don't see this stuff every day and very interesting stuff. Great video :)
alien spider lands on level crossing ;)
Excellent video
The testing reminds me of Father Dougal with the flashing Christmas tree lights...
Interesting, but I can't help thinking it'd be less disruptive and cheaper to wait for a halogen lamp module to fail and then replace it with an LED module rather than lifting the whole backboard out.
It’s not as simple as you think. The new unit is assembled and tested in the factory, it is type approved and construction is very closely specified, the most efficient way is to change the whole thing, back board included for an already assembled and tested unit, and Once erected it requires thorough testing to ensure it functions correctly. Working on anything associated with the signalling system (as crossing signals are) requires a closure to rail traffic. The upgrade is not as simple as just plugging in a new fitting. Railway work such as this upgrade has to be done safely and correctly, and isn’t possible to be done with trains running and road traffic passing through an area where lifting etc is being performed. Where rail is involved it is dangerous to cut corners to save time or inconvenience, the greatest inconvenience is to be killed if a system fails because it wasn’t installed correctly.
@warweezil2802 I agree
Did you ask if you could keep one of the old lights?
Probably XD
Great video.☺️
That was a very cool video
Great video
Wow! I don't think I have seen any footage like this before! Very interesting video! :D
I was going to a park then my mom can’t let me go sucks that’s why thanks for showing me
Very interesting small, portable crane.
12:01 Moonwalking digger
Lol
Really wish I could see some halogen again because my local level crossing (Berry Brow/Clayton Bridge) has not ad them for atleast 5 or 6 years and I miss them
Did you keep the old level crossing lights? Lol
What did they do with the old ones? I'd love to have one in my lounge.
Scrapped I think :(
Either scrapped or saved as spares
Wow, very interesting video. Lucky with the halogen light. What times were you there from?
Thanks! I got there about 9:30am and they were finished just before 4pm
Cool. I will see if I can't film an upgrade at another time.
morthren Been to Aylesford today, crossing still has halogen lights. The road closure looked to be for tree cutting and line painting. I'll be checking roadworks times but it's possible that the level crossing won't be touched until at least March time, or if fortunate, June / July time.
UK Level Crossings Channel - They were there last week too. There was engineering work going on but nothing on the crossing that day either.
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Nice to see a crossing being upgraded! I wonder how much those guys would offer for one of the wigwags if you asked for one of them?
6:04 so they left the alarms in place! The alarms seem rather easy to replace!
He got one
I could do with an NRS halogen wigwag displayed in my model railway shed.....
Forest city in the living room, GEC in the kitchen,
Driver's white lights as a lamp above the bed and a NRS above the front door. Oh yeah, and those fences to stop babies? Forget about it. Just put a short GWE in.
@Alfie Gould yes he did! ruclips.net/video/zuDvP5YPJbU/видео.html
I imagine this would have to be done on a Sunday to minimise disruption
8:00 broken red light!
Nice video
Thanks
*13:07* = American Crossing lights *British worker: THERE IS NO YELLOW!!*
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That Crain looks like a spider lol
That seems like a lot of effort just to replace the lights. Imo the American design is better because they just have to pop the old light out of the visor and retrofit the LEDs.
And if they need to replace the entire set of lights they can just remove the bracket... much better.
@@CptDanielTV so it was more than just the lights that were replaced...
I remember viewing this last year...
R.I.P Gillingham level crossing (HALOGEN)
I love hagolen lights
Also check out irelandblokes video of baldoyle level crossing. It has halogen wigwags that have been retrofitted to have leds
A very intresting video indeed. I just wonder is this a wig wag without the akoustic signal alarm? And is the signalbox next to the level crossing still in use? In that case the level crossing is controlled from there I guess. Here in the Netherlands manually controlled levelcrossing are very rare. Most of them are automatically acitvated by the passing trains. On "my" local line from Maastricht to Heerlen via Valkenburg (well known also in the UK by its Christmas markets in the caves) was controlled by local signalboxes with mechanical semaphores until 1986. Than came the light signals and automatic level crossings. And the train traffic controlcenter in Maastricht that controls all trainmovements in the whole province of Limburg.
its automatic actually, the signalbox would be used for train signals
Well done video! Thank you. Must close the rail line and road to do the work? Laughable.
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Do they really need a crane to lift a 50 pound light?
The replacesing the New LED
Pity they don't sell the old ones
I would love one lol 😂
I should have been there the day they did the work safely at the crossing. That way I'll have more recovers the old signals.
J'aurais du être la le jour où ils ont fait les travaux sûr le passage à niveau. Comme ça j'aurai plus récupère les anciens signaux.
Wow that was very interesting, wish i could catch something like that, why were there no trains running on that day?
Joe Thorpe - There were engineering works going on all day. They removed that walkway around the outside of the signal box, along at the station they were working on a new footbridge. Further along past the station they were working on the tracks and points. Plus the wigwag upgrade. It was a busy day!
morthren I didn’t realise that they used cranes to lift the wigwags, plus I didn’t realise it took so long to do it in general, very interesting the way they program the lights, for a min I thought it had a broken red light. Apparently they are upgrading Aylesford Station crossing this week. Are you going to try and catch that?
Joe Thorpe I didnt know how they lifted them either, it was really interesting to watch the whole process. They had to change a card in the controller for the LED lights to work. I think Aylesford is being done at night so a video wouldn't look very good.
morthren Well you’ve solved my problem of wondering how they upgrade crossing lights, they usually have super bright LED flood lights shinning on the crossing when they do work at night so you should still get a great shot of it. Do you know anything about Woodnesborough road, Chillham road and Mill, etc? (As to when they are being upgraded?)
I'll see if I can get down to Aylesford and take a look. I haven't got any information on the upgrade dates of other crossings unfortunately. Gillingham is quite local to me and I knew there was work going on that Sunday so went down to take a look. This is the video I managed to get.
At the end, solid orange doesn't stay on long enough for vehicles to stop before reds start, is this for easy fines to be given as a vehicle will be shown to go over as reds begin flashing so quick
by eye, that looks about as long as other crossing videos ive seen
yeah, they are on for 3 seconds in this video, and the standard is 3-5 seconds
I would have had to asked if I could buy one of the old ones 😂
I did 😉
@@morthren XD What did they say
I want one of the halogens!
Yeah same
In my area RR personal never put equipment on RR tracks while replacing RR crossing poles or lights. And they should be on street while closed the road. So, where are the trains who want ride on it?
Ken McCann - That section of track was closed that day for all the engineering works. They put on a bus service between the stations.
The correct term for this equipment is Road Light Units; "wigwags" is the nickname for them.
Nicely captured video of something members of the public wouldn't normally see during daytime. Was this a Sunday?
2:15 According to its manufacturer, Unipart Dorman, it's a "Red LED Railway Level Crossing Fixed Wig Wag Module" - they have a PDF flyer of all their LED rail products on their website.
I would have to ask if i could walk away with a pair of wigags xD
I did! They let me have one of them :)
@@morthren OMG that is so cool of them, that made me smile then want to cry, i've not been able to find any for sale anywhere. xD
@@granjerolunabrillo1487 I've still got to do something with it. Here's a video of it - ruclips.net/video/zuDvP5YPJbU/видео.html
@@morthren Well damn, my question was going to be the same, "did you ask for one of them?". Amazing that you did and even more so that they let you cos I'd imagine even as scrap value they're worth a pretty penny. Colour me all kinds of jealous! Although your comment of "still got to do something with it" reminds me I still have a Jubilee Line door open button that I need to turn into a doorbell when I get the spare time.
Oh well. Any news about Stoke crossing?
Nathan A RF - Yes, I was told the equipment is going to be removed and used at the Network Rail training school. This team is going to be removing it. I don't know when though. Also, they're going to put automatic barriers in along at Grain. The boss said it's going to be a horrible job because of where it's located.
I'm going to go next Wednesday. See if I can film it one last time
morthren are there going to be new wigwags at grain
never heard of land sheriffs before
Happy birthday
Literaly if u wanna save one halogen then just buy it. Or its not possible?
How will trains get through the level crossing with the drain there? Did they cancel them
The iron Gamer - The line was closed from Gillingham to Strood and had a replacement bus service that day.
All this cracks me up. No matter what you do, there will always be stupid people to defy the safety measures.
were can i buy the led wigwags?
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Your hearing aid fallen out?
Are they called wigwags because of the noise? Cracking spider cane as well.
pretty called wigwags because of the alternate light
No problems with rail workers when you filming ?
Apparently not ;)
Strange how lamps on the barriers are led yet the others lights werw halogens
Omg did u actually get to have one of the old lights
Yep :D
morthren that is amazing have you got any others from other level crossings
I've only got one. They are massive! ruclips.net/video/zuDvP5YPJbU/видео.html
morthren which one do u own one near the signal box or one from the other side
The one that's being taken down at 1:10 opposite the signal box on the same side
Why are the lights called Wig Wags? Great video.
It's a term used in the UK for alternate flashing lights. The same on emergency vehicles where the headlights can alternate when they have the emergency lights on. They are also referred to as wigwags
Why are the barrier lights on
Do they really need a "red man" light as well? Doesn't say much for the residents of Gillingham.
And it doesn't even flash in time with the main red lights, aaahhhhhh.
Never liked those gates that don't have the springy "foot" at the end. Seems like more bending force on the gate than necessary.
I would asked if i could get the old one
It is difficult to replace wigwags because you need to program them. Is that true?
It wouldn't be hard for the engineers to set them up. They are trained and know what they are doing. They wouldn't be able to work on them if they didn't know what they are doing.
What was wrong with the old ones?
Patrick Kovar the new LED lights are more efficient and need less maintenance (as the LEDs last a lot longer than halogen bulbs).
Someone has calculated that the cost of this work will save costs in the long run.
Also the safety factor is better as the bulbs are even less likely to fail
Jijo
Did you get a light ? Great video btw
Luke Wilson03 Let's just say one didn't get scrapped ;)
And thanks.
morthren aha you should make a vid on it
morthren so yes you did get a light
Why do you call them wig wags? They neither wig nor wag. In the U.S. we used to have wig wags that swung back and forth.
pretty much because of the alternate light which also used on emergency vehicles
It goes back to Semaphore Flags, the Wig Wag flags where opposites of each other and where shown one after the other.
This then led to the technology of lights flashing left and right like these on a Railway Crossing and in emergency vehicles where the headlights flash left them right. The control box is called a Wig Wag…
It's just what they're called...? Same reason you guys call trousers pants
Do some of that
Where did you get the name wigwag?
It's what that type of traffic signal is called in the UK. It means alternate flashing light.
My plan worked! The video Creator replied to my comment >:D
so its like this: Wigwag=Railway crossing/U.S alternative?
Wigwags is just the name for the lights. A Railroad Crossing is called a Level Crossing in the UK :)
morthren & AmericanGamer ...because it sort of looks like the light "wiggles" to one side and "waggles" back.
What is wrong with halogens?!
I like them but LEDs are brighter and need less maintenance... That would be a couple reasons why they are changed.
@@morthren Apparently from what I've heard, Network Rail are donating a lot of these old NRS Halogen wigwags to heritage railways for use on their level crossings. Very few heritage railways use the modern Unipart Rail LEDs on their level crossings, I've only known all but one of the level crossings on the Ffestiniog Railway in Wales and the Minehead Level Crossing on the West Somerset Railway to use them.
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I have a question for the people replacing the lights! Why stupid?
This is not a wigwag!
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😂😂😂😂 it's a crane silly
Must close the road to replace lamps? Such laughable stupidityvould not be tolerated in the USA.
No, the laughable stupidity is on the USA side… trust me I’m here.
LED is the worst light in the world! Sure LED is brighter and cost less but halogens in my opinion is better!
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Great video.
Nice video