Fun fact, my step father worked in the shipping/receiving of Disneyland when this movie came out. Because of the fragile nature of the model they made for the movie, they had to figure a way to transport it from Anaheim to the Burbank studio. It was my step dad who thought of a strap configuration to keep it from breaking the spires on the model. His configuration enabled the model to "float' inside the trailer that was used to move it.
@@jamesnoble8205 :Only the models of the Palomino exist. I saw the hero larger model in person hanging from the ceiling in a pavilion at Disney studios in Florida in 1996 where a lot of models and props were on display. I think it's been moved from there since but I don't know where. A smaller model has been seen at auction some time ago but I forget where. The two 12 foot models of the Cygnus were destroyed. One during filming of the breakup of the ship and the second one was destroyed by accident in a crate when apparently a forklift truck smashed into it (or something to that effect) after it was on display at the New York museum of Natural History.
@@jimsmalleimb7709 ... I used to be into plastic scale model building & I hate when models that are complex & took time to design & complete are smashed into bits by accident. I can understand models that were built to get smashed but not those smashed inadvertently. I still have most of the models I built, which are mainly some sci-fi ships & also real ships such as jet fighters. That Palomino, the size version as big as a person, would have been cool to suspend on the ceiling. I saw the movie back in the day & I had no problems with it (I also still have the novel).
One of my all-time favourite movies. It's properly dark in places, and it's probably the first Disney movie I've seen, where parents hustled their crying children out of the cinema. When Durant unmasks the humanoid, and we're treated to a closeup of what is basically a dead man, there was an audible gasp from genuinely shocked people in the cinema - someone actually screamed a bit later when Reinhardt's terrified face appears behind Maximillian's faceplate. I saw 'The Black Hole' five or six times on release, and every time, it blew me away. Like the later, and also wonderful 'Event Horizon', it can be seen as a haunted house in space movie - the empty crew quarters on the USS Cygnus, with all the missing crews' clothes and belongings in situ, is still skin crawlingly creepy: you know something really terrible has happened to them, in the last 20 years. I still watch it on DVD. I was pleased to find that my seven year old nephew watched it, with his mum and dad, and was utterly fascinated by it. A good friend of mine gave me a beautiful 3D printed 'Palomino' spacecraft as a Christmas gift this year - he knows how much I love this movie.
Oh yeah. I dragged my pops to the theater for this and I think he liked the dark aspect of the movie. I never for one moment considered it a Disney film when I saw it. I had all of the action figures with Maximilian being my favorite. Like Tron, it's still a fun flick to this day.
I know what you mean mate, people like us are tragic, nobody gets us, they don’t understand. Another good one is the time machine, the original movie from 1960 with Rod Taylor in it. If you haven’t seen it you better
I’ve loved The Black Hole since I saw it in 1979 and always considered it underrated. Star Wars, is space opera. The Black Hole is existential science fiction. Thanks for the review Minty!
Thank you for giving a new generation some incentive to catch this wonderful movie that remains one of my favorite sci-fi flicks to this day. Some of the most gorgeous and sophisticated visuals ever, and especially for it's time. I remember GASPING when the lights of the ship came on. And the music. I wore out that LP. I love it. I didn't know all that stuff about the production and what a rocky road it had to getting made. Many thanks to everyone who believed in the concept enough to push it to the next phase of production. It's truly a gem a movie that shouldn't be forgotten.
The big ship was a masterpiece of model making. True Story: I used the box my Death Star came in to make a cheap copy of that ship to play with when my friends came over.
The sudden lighting up of the USS Cygnus is actually a pretty nice jump scare, like the bus brakes in 'Cat People'. I jumped, and you could hear other peoples' reaction in the cinema. The robots aren't actually cute, either - V.I.N.CENT is dry, sarcastic and rather arch, and Old B.O.B. is bitter, world weary and fed up of being bullied by Maximillian. His death is as sad as any human character, and the voice work by the great Slim Pickens, is wonderful.
It.deserves a remake or even a new series: "Beyond the Black Hole" where either the Cygnus was rescued and Dr. McCray found a way to free the zombies and robots Reinhardt created and explore while trying to elude Dr. Reinhardt and Maximilian together and with new found allies who hunt the Cygnus down.
This movie is one of the more prized dvds in my collection. I remember seeing this when it was first released in the theaters, and loving it. My work table still has the VINCent figure I got when I was a kid. It proudly sits next to my BSG dagget figure and Buck Rogers Twiki figure. Cherished relics of my childhood.
I had a Black Hole punch out book. You could build cardboard spaceships and locations. I also had a Star Trek the Motion Picture happy meal box and the Mighty Man and Monster Maker Kit
My parents took me to see this as a child. When a key character dies towards the very end of the film I started crying, and not quietly crying, but full on screaming sobbing. The people in the theatre were very concerned about this inconsolable little boy. To this day I can’t watch that scene without tears in my eyes. “We’re the best” just kills me.
Thanks for this Minty! This Movie was a totally original concept and there hasn't been anything like it since. The fx were great, The Signus design was very believable and it had that element of Zombie horror with the idea of Reinhardt using the crew to serve his crazy ends. We never, ever see this film shown on terrestrial TV anymore. Being a Disney production, it is probably the only horror they ever made.. Great Film.
I saw The Black Hole in ‘79 and as a 9-year old kid I loved it. I loved the action and the disaster part. It was different in terms of a space odyssey from everything else at that time. Now at 50, I still love the movie, and can appreciate the psychological aspect.
THAT's IT!!! I'm 'Subbing'!!!! One of My FAVORITE movies, besides 'Star Wars' is this one.......... for ANYBODY who is a Sci-fi freakazoid, this movie is Right up there! A Great cast of characters, soundtrack, and robots like 'B.O.B.'!!! And a person who tells us about the story of a lot of movies and "10 things you didn't know...", 'Minty' you really portray the movies in your channel very well....exciting, and full of life.............I especially like the "downer music" in the sadder parts of This posting ( didn't know about the original problems with this movie 🙁) Thanks for the posting of this wonderful movie!!! You do great work!!!
I saw this film theatrically when I was a kid. I still consider the score to be haunting. Maximillian is still scarier in some respects than Darth Vader. What he did to Anthony Perkins is still nightmare inducing. V.I.N.C.E.N.T and B.O.B are my favorites, and B.O.B's death is still sad. Then how Maximillian and Reinhardt merging into a satanic figure is a perfect metaphor for megalomania.
I just watched it again this weekend. I thought it was interesting how Reinhardt asked Kate to "Save me from Maximillian". I suppose it was just a trick, but it seemed out of character for him, and I wondered if he actually was scared of the robot, who seemed to disobey him pretty regularly.
Satanic figure? More like Reinhardt's punishment in accordance with his sins. He was trapped inside the body of a murderous robot he created, unable to move, and to eternally look down upon representations of what he had done to the crew. This was his personal hell, his damnation. Very Dante's Inferno.
@@TheCastellan , I agree that Max has developed a will of his own. I think the line was actually ad lib from Maximillian Schell if I remember correctly. I think it adds an interesting aspect to the story. Later, we see Maximilian obviously ignore Reinhardt's plea for help. He turns back and looks at him, so it is clear he heard him. I think Reinhardt had recognized that he most likely didn't run the ship anymore, but that currently there was a status quo where it wasn't really necessary for anything to change. Reinhardt knew, deep down, that Max could have him sent to the hospital and there would be nothing he could do about it. I mean, was there REALLY any reason for Max to kill Durant other than jealousy?
@@brandonpage7087 eBay There's a small collectors ring around the UK. As a child I was given the projector from HMS Bristol when the royal navy changed from 16mm to dvd. It came with 3 short reels of classic cartoons, so it's a treasured childhood toy. After getting it recapped andHaving all the perished belts replaced by one of the last living repairman I started collecting. Currently my library is: 1) The Black Hole 2) The Elephant Man 3) Those cartoons. When we move into our new house will be setting up a _reel_ home cinema. Ones that I missed, way out of my budget, was an anamorphic print of Aliens. That went for a £1000.
What?! ok. I'm calm now. That is an amazing thing to read. Maybe we could be fans and pull together to gather funds to see it played 16mm way. like a club, ya know? make friends in away, yeah?
If you think about is, The Black Hole is actually an outer-space version of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. Alex Reinhart compares perfectly to Captain Nemo!
I saw this for the first time a few years ago, fortunately in a theater, and was blown away. Partially because I wasn't expecting that intense overture, but I'm a practical effects nerd and just all the detail in this movie is amazing. It feels like a cross between 20,000 Leagues and Alien more than Star Wars though. I hope you'll do a list about "Watcher in the Woods" sometime.
Under rated classic, always loved the soundtrack and Roddy Mcdowalls wonderfully dry witted Vincent, not to mention the terrifying Maximillian and genuinely sad loss of the battered Texan Bob.
I've always liked the intro to this movie The green grid pattern and the musical score. And of course also like the line Vincent's my name sharp shootings my game.
Thank you, Minty. This film was so beautiful and moody, and was an excellent entry into the Sci-Fi genre. Silly quirks aside, it’s a film that deserves its accolades. I dare say it influenced several movies in later years. And you just can’t beat that theme!!
I seen the movie in the theater as a kid. The Maximillion hell scene scared the sh!t out of me. I wish I still had my Maximillion model. It was about 10 inches tall, and the arms rotated and articulated. As soon as I got Disney+, it was one of the first movies I watched.
They recently released a Maximillian action figure in 2019, you can probably still find it if you really want to own him again. Made by Diamond Select toys. Also, the two floating droids were made as well. B.o.b. and the other one. I bought all 3!
Cool! I still have the Max model and Vincent with all his extended arms and leg balls. The stands still work but Maxamilions wire don't stay in his back well. As a kid I even rigged red light for his eye. I never heard anyone mention the models before. I can't remember who made them?... AMT? Monogram? MPC Mabey?
I saw this as a child on release. A really dark movie from Disney that was aimed at kids. The bit where Maximillian comes at the camera with a spinning blade weapon was pretty scary as I recall but the really freaky bit was when he merges with his creator at the end and you see the trapped eyes of the human looking out of him whilst standing on an asteroid. That ending gave me nightmares.
The part where the Cygnus is dark and they are flying under and around it- is one of the best cinematic scenes I’ve ever seen ! And the hand painted mats for space were beautiful!
8:01 It was the late seventies, at this stage it was all about going into out of space ............ and disco. :D That made me smile, well done Minty, well done.
French actress Yvette Mimieux was previously known for playing Weena in the classic film _The Time Machine._ Also, for those too young, an overture was where a mix of the film's musical themes were played at the very beginning of the movie, before the first credits even rolled. This was not an optional feature controlled by the theater owners, this was the actual start of the first film reel. They were a leftover from the old time classic theater days where people would hang out in the lobby before a film started. The lobby lights would flash to let everyone know the film was about to start. The overture served as a buffer to allow everyone time to enter the theater and find their seats without really missing anything. I think it was a holdover from live theater, where it served the same purpose..
It gets a bad rap, but I have always enjoyed the Black Hole. It was Disney being brave and a gothic horror in space loooonng before Event Horizon. Tonally it's all over the place but it's still a fun watch.
No, it gets the rap it deserves. This was not a good movie even from a 1970s perspective. It was helmed by people stuck in the 1960s and did not have any of the blood Lucas and his generation brought on board. It was outdated way before it hit the screen and Star Wars just accelerated that feeling. Disney had a lot of problems then and even 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea made this movie look dated.
It took me awhile to actually watch this movie beyond the first 15 mins. I was not into Disney producing live action movies. I only watched their cartoons. However, there was a TV station that would broadcast this movie every year. I would just happen to stumble upon it. I would just watch it until the Palomino docked with the Signus. I lost interest in the story at that point. One day I decided to watch it because there was nothing else on. There were times when I lost interest and flipped the channel only to come back to watch it. The movie grew on me and I ended up buying it on DVD.
@@Laceykat66 Stop with the sour grapes just because someone likes a movie you didn't. It's not as if this film exists in direct opposition to something you love. The Black Hole gets better with age and as superior as Star Wars was, it was the beginning of a shark jump that gave us all the trash we have today.
@@paulw6057 Sour Grapes? You keep using that phrase. I do not think it means what you think it means. Adam made an evaluation I did not agree with and I gave him specific points as to why I disagree. In the olden days this was called a discussion. Black Hole does NOT get "better." The story still drags, the effects were more primitive than 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, and the ending was a poor attempt that did not succeed. It was made at a time when Disney was between great periods. When it was a shell of its former self living on the residuals of re-releases.
Saw this in the theaters. Loved it, but I was 8 at the time. Watching in in 4k is stunning. And the USS Cygnus is one of the most visually pleasing ships in scifi. I can see the influence of designs from 2001 now that you mentioned who did the designs.
My Dad brought me to see this at the theatre when I was a little kid. Didn’t understand ALL that was going on but, the flying robots caught my attention.
FINALY!!! The Black Hole. As a young boy i watched that movie many many times. I even had a cassette tape from this movie. Maan that theme Music was epic. Great movie. Brings back memories 😌.
As someone who saw the movie in theaters at age 9, I have vivid memories. Maximillian was such a great villain. Genuinely scary! And than final scene.... music so haunting, the Dante's Inferno heaven and hell imagery. It just seemed so DEEP, and I was totally baffled. I've grown to really love this movie.
I remember seeing this when it was released and I loved it. I decided to revisit it about 5 years ago, expecting to have a good laugh but it has held up amazingly well. It stands on it's own even after all these years.
I LOVED this movie when it came out. I was a little too young to fully follow the story, but lived VinCENT, BOB, and the Palomino. (Maximillian gave me nightmares.) However, I had the comic book adaptation which I read several times and was finally able to wrap my head around the entire story. I just realized it's available on Disney Plus. Going to go rewatch it now.
thats the craziest thing ive read on youtube this month (There is a lot going on right now!) BUT!!! More than likely true!! Yeah, theres some sweet irony in a horror film (and a really good one) based on a Disney flick.
Indeed, but after i watch the 'making of' of Event-H i think they got inspired more from pure horror movies. The ship for exemple, is a cathedral transformed into a spaceship. If you look at the ship, in some view, you can almost see stained Glass that are typical of them... That being said, The Black Hole is a great movie for his time, it just got overshadowed by Star Wars.
Absolutely. They're almost two takes on the same story, but with VERY different time and style. Watching them together as a double feature strangely makes both movies better.
As a kid in the late 70s, I had two posters hanging in my room. One was Spider-man and the other was V.I.N.C.E.N.T. I also loved Tron. If you look close in Tron Legacy, the scene where Flynn is talking to his kid in the bedroom and talks about "Cycles that raced on ribbons of light", there is a toy of B.O.B. in the background behind the two light cycles. Good episode Minty!
@1701gijoe I still wish Tron was moved to the Marvel universe. Imagine Marvel on the grid. Anyway, I wish your had been right. I think the Black Hole needs a reboot. Not a fan of reboots but I think it could be something pretty cool if done right.
I loved The Black Hole when I saw it as a kid. I thought (and still do) that the villain robot "Maximillian" was one of the most impressive and scariest villains ever. I even remember having a "Black Hole" t-shirt and an old-skool metal lunch-box.
I saw it in the theaters as a kid and loved it so when the anniversary edition came out on disk I scored a copy without hesitation - it was just as good as I remembered it being. As for what to compare it to, I always kind of viewed it as 20,000 Leagues in space with a touch of Island of Dr Moro tossed in for flavor, thus making it more of a drama/thriller/gothic horror than action movie in my book.
I had the big Max robot action figure as a kid and I used it to fight my Luke Skywalker action figure. The Black hole and the Poseidon Adventure have both Ernest Borgnine and Roddy McDowell in them!
I was so excited to see that you featured "The Black Hole"!! I have always said this is an underrated and often overlooked movie. I was obsessed with this movie as a kid!
When I was a kid there were few movies that lived up to my expectations like Empire Strikes Back, Flash Gordon and, yes, even The Black Hole! I saw The Black Hole several times in the theater and considered it a “classic” just like the Star Wars films. It would be several decades later that, to my surprise, it remains an oddity rather than a cool movie that it is.
The Black Hole is very macabre for a Disney film. It is so underrated...I think the makers of Event Horizon (which is also a fave movie of mine) took a lot of inspiration from the Black Hole. So dark with a number of avenues that were not fully explored...Such as why did Reinhardt say "Project me from Maximilian" Brilliant writing...I am surmising that the robot was created by Reinhardt (physically and mentally) , became far too powerful for him to control, by his lust for knowing what was on the other side of the black hole, and his hate for authority...who instructed him to abort and return, and Maximilian was a by product of Reinhardt's dark side, and hate for humanity...Very similar to the fundamental workings of the Forbidden Planet. It is a shame the end was so ambiguous....We obviously see Reinhardt mate and merge with his Frankenstein monster, and become maybe the movies depiction of the Devil....And the other survivors travelling through the glass corridor to Heaven, and hopefully out the other side.
I always thought Reinhardt said to Kate, "Protect me from Maximillian." I interpreted it as a way to try to pass his insanity as a fear of Maximillian.
@@SoremRasmussen It might well be the way you have mentioned...But it came across to me as though Reinhardt couldnt control his monster any longer. Look at how Maximilian kills Alex Durant...Totally against Reinhardt's wishes. I believe the robot was a manifestation of Reinhardt's darkness from within, and that he was struggling to control his hate. Well thats my take on it anyways. :)
@@jumblesaleboo That's not how reproduction works though. Fusing together on the other hand when the laws of physics break down after the singularity I can believe. In that sense I guess you can kinda interpret it anyway you want. Kinda a weird choice though to be honest, but who am I to judge... Pa.. paa... pervert! Oh my, excuse me! I think I'm coming down with a case of coronavirus. I'm just messing with you bro. Lol 😂
An excellent video. The Black Hole has always been a favourite of mine. Something you may have missed is that Sigourney Weaver was considered for the role of Dr Kate McCrae. I also heard that Roddy McDowell and Slim Pickens were not credited because they were brought on after filming was completed for their voice acting so the original cast never heard their actual dialogue until (presumably) when the film was released. I cannot remember where I heard it, thought, so take that with a pinch of salt.
Still love this movie, even though it can be a little cheesy at points. Still watch it on DVD several times a year. I had most of the figures but gave them to my nephews as I got older.😣 Had the models of VINCENT, Max and the Cygnus, but when you play with models, they don't last. V.I.N.C.E.N.T. will always be one of my favorite characters of all time! His confidence/cockiness and his dialogue are fantastic. For you fans, go check out Walgreens. You might get lucky and find the new 2020 upgraded 6" scale remakes of V.I.N.C.E.N.T. and Maximillian if nobody noticed them! Thanks Minty. Another fun video! We'll forgive "Riving" at #8. Love Ya and Cheers Mate!
I've always loved this movie. The script could have been better but this movie has so much more to offer. It has an ominous feel to it from set design to musical score.
This was awesome, thanks for putting it together! The Black Hole was always one of my favorites, forming a sort of Disney Channel Sci-Fi Trilogy with Tron and The Last Starfighter. In addition to the toys (which I didn't get) and the Comics (which I do own) there was a Black Hole Board Game (setup sort of like Candyland). I think I still have it somewhere in my old stuff. I wore out the cardboard box it came in playing it with my sister when we were kids. Ah, good times!
The movie scared me to death as a kid, or more accurately, Maximillin did. That scene with the blender cutting through the books traumatized me. (As well as the crew story, no spoilers)That said, I LOVED Vincent and Bob
Agreed about the ending. It's a major story twist and divergence from what we were watching in the previous 80 minutes. It's like we went from a great space adventure following SOME real physics, to an M. Night Shyamalan twist filled fantasy land.
Angi Myers ...I still don't get the ending. The blackhole turned out to be a wormhole? To Heaven and Hell? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a good Christian allegory. However when it just comes out of left field, you've lost me.
This was the very first movie my parents let me see by myself in the theater. In the scene where the beaten and bloody face POPS up on the screen, my popcorn went 3 rows back. The group of girls it landed on were NOT impressed.
@@jamesnoble8205 At the very end when the evil characters body is seen floating through space. It's all of a sudden RIGHT THERE!!! In my defense, I was 12. lol
Minty many thanks for this vid. Your summary of this movie was spot on. The Black Hole, Tron and The Rocketeer are my favorite sc-fi movies of all time. Ironically all didn't do great at the box office. But it's to hear that they're receiving the appreciation they deserve.
I had the storybook to this movie back in the day. It was part of a film adaptation series. They had a red, black, and blue logo on the upper right corner.
Wasn't there a 45rpm record version? I kinda remember something like that, but I can't be sure. I might just be confusing the story book version and a Star Wars record.
@@phillipmoxley2444 nice, and thanks for the info. That means there is a good chance I did have it amongst the dozen or so other 45rpm storybook records of the time.
Good video and topic to cover. I grew up in the 1970’s and have fond memories of The Black Hole. An additional merchandising was a Colorforms Black Hole “toy” which I remember having; like thick stickers of the characters you could reapply across a background of the Cygnus bridge I think. Thanks again. See you “Out There!”
I miss movies that got that sort of reaction from the audience. I recently experienced this recently in Godzilla 2014 when he kills the MUTO huge cheers and Rogue One but it was people yelling because they where upset at all th killing of heroes.
Do more of Disney live action movies, since Sean Connery's birthday was recently you could do Darby O'Gill and the little people or you could do Something wicked this way comes.
OMG, I love Darby O'Gill. Sean can sing so well! And, there's a lot of ' 'Disney style' special effects... They're cheesy now, but banshee & the death cab freaked us out when we were kids. And we loved King Brian in all his trickiness. Hehehe.
Yes, and thanks for reminding me of Escape to Witch Mountain. Tron was a big influence. I love all the corny live action FX like Sid & Marty Krofft and Godzilla. My 10 year old son and I laugh endlessly at Godzilla's stupid loveable son, Manilla.
Really surprised you've not mentioned anything about the John Barry score, which along with the score for Moonraker and Raise The Titanic is considered to have come from Barry's golden era of work... the main theme alone is just utterly jaw dropping.
When this film was released I had the book they released with the film which included a vinyl record. "Help me Maximillian...Help Me!" This became my catchphrase for about a year after the film was released, complete with Schell's accent.
The Black Hole has some serious flaws - mostly with clunky dialogue and underwhelming writing, but it still has some very cool things about it that make it worth checking out too. My favorite thing about it is the robot Maximilian - it's just such a cool design - one of my all time favorite robot designs along with Gort from The Day The Earth Stood Still (the original, not the completely awful remake). And I loved the fact that Maximilian didn't speak - that really lent to the menace and "otherness" of his character, which parallels the Reinhardt character. The film score of course is also awesome. A lot of people criticize the end of this movie, but I actually kind of dug it. If you pay attention to all the references to Dante's Inferno and also factor in various speculations about what black holes are, my opinion is that the end actually reflects some interesting artistic and philosophical choices and gives much food for thought. Anyway, if you haven't checked it out, I'm with Minty - give it a look.
It was also a Disney film, so its not like they could've had the remaining good guys & gal & robot pal all die via being reduced to their basic atoms in the hole. That would've been too dark and depressing an ending.
He didn't speak and it added to his mystery. Where did he come from, there are even hints (script wise) that he just appeared some day. Thus putting in more and more of a "He's a demonic figure due to their proximity to the black hole". It is like Event Horizon before event horizon in many ways lol.
I saw this when it first came out and I've always thought it was under-appreciated. Thanks for the cool info! I learned a lot! You really ought to do The Poseidon Adventure! (If you haven't; I need to check.)
My parents wouldn’t take me to see this movie when it came out because it was a PG-rated Disney movie. Ironically, my dad took me to see all the Star Wars movies AND the Indiana Jones movies.
It's pretty sad that he let someone else be the arbiter of what his family was able to do and not trust his own judgment as a man. One of the many problems facing society today is just this.
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Hell, my parents took me to the drive in and I saw everything from the Bee Girls which was a soft porn thriller at 5 years old, to some horrific movies that scarred me for life, like legend of Hell house. Which ironically starred Roddy McDowall as well.
My best friend and I went to see this movie when it came out. We told our parents we were going roller skating lol. We both preferred Star Wars but thought it was pretty good too.
I was a little kid but saw this in the theater! And I grew up telling people about it and people not believing me about it. The Disney dark era.. THE BLACK HOLE, The Black Cauldron, Return to OZ... good times..
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Fun fact, my step father worked in the shipping/receiving of Disneyland when this movie came out.
Because of the fragile nature of the model they made for the movie, they had to figure a way to transport it from Anaheim to the Burbank studio.
It was my step dad who thought of a strap configuration to keep it from breaking the spires on the model. His configuration enabled the model to "float' inside the trailer that was used to move it.
I wonder what happened to all the models used in filming?
@@jamesnoble8205 :Only the models of the Palomino exist. I saw the hero larger model in person hanging from the ceiling in a pavilion at Disney studios in Florida in 1996 where a lot of models and props were on display. I think it's been moved from there since but I don't know where. A smaller model has been seen at auction some time ago but I forget where. The two 12 foot models of the Cygnus were destroyed. One during filming of the breakup of the ship and the second one was destroyed by accident in a crate when apparently a forklift truck smashed into it (or something to that effect) after it was on display at the New York museum of Natural History.
@@jimsmalleimb7709 ... I used to be into plastic scale model building & I hate when models that are complex & took time to design & complete are smashed into bits by accident. I can understand models that were built to get smashed but not those smashed inadvertently. I still have most of the models I built, which are mainly some sci-fi ships & also real ships such as jet fighters. That Palomino, the size version as big as a person, would have been cool to suspend on the ceiling. I saw the movie back in the day & I had no problems with it (I also still have the novel).
That's so cool. The U.S.S. Cygnus Is one of my favorite star ships. I hope the model still exists.
@@scottcampbell5677 : I just provided a full explanation of that above.
One of my all-time favourite movies. It's properly dark in places, and it's probably the first Disney movie I've seen, where parents hustled their crying children out of the cinema. When Durant unmasks the humanoid, and we're treated to a closeup of what is basically a dead man, there was an audible gasp from genuinely shocked people in the cinema - someone actually screamed a bit later when Reinhardt's terrified face appears behind Maximillian's faceplate. I saw 'The Black Hole' five or six times on release, and every time, it blew me away. Like the later, and also wonderful 'Event Horizon', it can be seen as a haunted house in space movie - the empty crew quarters on the USS Cygnus, with all the missing crews' clothes and belongings in situ, is still skin crawlingly creepy: you know something really terrible has happened to them, in the last 20 years. I still watch it on DVD. I was pleased to find that my seven year old nephew watched it, with his mum and dad, and was utterly fascinated by it.
A good friend of mine gave me a beautiful 3D printed 'Palomino' spacecraft as a Christmas gift this year - he knows how much I love this movie.
Oh yeah. I dragged my pops to the theater for this and I think he liked the dark aspect of the movie. I never for one moment considered it a Disney film when I saw it. I had all of the action figures with Maximilian being my favorite. Like Tron, it's still a fun flick to this day.
I know what you mean mate, people like us are tragic, nobody gets us, they don’t understand. Another good one is the time machine, the original movie from 1960 with Rod Taylor in it. If you haven’t seen it you better
I’ve loved The Black Hole since I saw it in 1979 and always considered it underrated. Star Wars, is space opera. The Black Hole is existential science fiction. Thanks for the review Minty!
Thank you for giving a new generation some incentive to catch this wonderful movie that remains one of my favorite sci-fi flicks to this day. Some of the most gorgeous and sophisticated visuals ever, and especially for it's time. I remember GASPING when the lights of the ship came on. And the music. I wore out that LP. I love it.
I didn't know all that stuff about the production and what a rocky road it had to getting made. Many thanks to everyone who believed in the concept enough to push it to the next phase of production. It's truly a gem a movie that shouldn't be forgotten.
The big ship was a masterpiece of model making. True Story: I used the box my Death Star came in to make a cheap copy of that ship to play with when my friends came over.
The sudden lighting up of the USS Cygnus is actually a pretty nice jump scare, like the bus brakes in 'Cat People'. I jumped, and you could hear other peoples' reaction in the cinema. The robots aren't actually cute, either - V.I.N.CENT is dry, sarcastic and rather arch, and Old B.O.B. is bitter, world weary and fed up of being bullied by Maximillian. His death is as sad as any human character, and the voice work by the great Slim Pickens, is wonderful.
@@brianartillery You inadvertently answered my question in another post regarding BOB and Slim Pickens.
Thank you!
@@Jaake-my2rq - Glad to be of assistance! 👍👍👍
Rented this movie as a teenager in the mid 90's and loved it, now I own it and love re-watching it.
It.deserves a remake or even a new series: "Beyond the Black Hole" where either the Cygnus was rescued and Dr. McCray found a way to free the zombies and robots Reinhardt created and explore while trying to elude Dr. Reinhardt and Maximilian together and with new found allies who hunt the Cygnus down.
@@deathstrike Yes I would love to see an updated remake other as a movie or series.
This movie is one of the more prized dvds in my collection. I remember seeing this when it was first released in the theaters, and loving it. My work table still has the VINCent figure I got when I was a kid. It proudly sits next to my BSG dagget figure and Buck Rogers Twiki figure. Cherished relics of my childhood.
My Vincent met his end via a tennis racket.
Twiki the mechanical mini me that was made out of leftover parts from a General Motors car “ computer”
Dagget is misspelled!! It's spelled Daggit...
I had a Black Hole punch out book. You could build cardboard spaceships and locations. I also had a Star Trek the Motion Picture happy meal box and the Mighty Man and Monster Maker Kit
The Black Hole was one of my favorites as a kid. You're the man, Minty.
That little robot was one of my favorite toys back in the day.
Yvette Mimieux, fell in love with her when I saw her in "The Time Machine" as Weena.
I’ve always found it humorous that Maximilian Schell ended up with a Maximilian “shell”.
Never thought about that.
Bwahahaha...now that's funny.
Give this man a cigar!
In hell
@@Sean-hn1vt
Maximilian Schell in a Maximilian “shell” in Hell… You have a knack for rhyme and observation.
My parents took me to see this as a child. When a key character dies towards the very end of the film I started crying, and not quietly crying, but full on screaming sobbing. The people in the theatre were very concerned about this inconsolable little boy. To this day I can’t watch that scene without tears in my eyes. “We’re the best” just kills me.
Would that be B.O.B.?
Oh come on, Harry Boothe was kind of a jerk! ;-)
James Noble hey man! That’s Cabbie!
He also played the kind and gentle sergeant who helps out Frank Sinatra in FROM HERE TO ETERNITY.
@@TheRealNormanBates I'm referring to his character in the film.
@@jamesnoble8205 I know. I was adding to the sarcasm.
Thanks for this Minty! This Movie was a totally original concept and there hasn't been anything like it since. The fx were great, The Signus design was very believable and it had that element of Zombie horror with the idea of Reinhardt using the crew to serve his crazy ends. We never, ever see this film shown on terrestrial TV anymore. Being a Disney production, it is probably the only horror they ever made.. Great Film.
the Black Cauldron was pretty horrifying
I watched this movie many times when I was young, in the Early-Mid 80's and loved it.. I should really rewatch it now..
That's a really really good idea.
@@GODCONVOYPRIME watching it now.. Yeah, the effect is a bit dated.. But the memories and the story of madness..
Man.. I forgot that how crazy the ending was.. RIP B.O.B....
I recently watched it again recently on Disney+. Meh.
Yes!
I remember going to the theater to watch it.
I saw The Black Hole in ‘79 and as a 9-year old kid I loved it. I loved the action and the disaster part. It was different in terms of a space odyssey from everything else at that time. Now at 50, I still love the movie, and can appreciate the psychological aspect.
"A Journey That Begins Where Everything Ends" best tagline ever.
Ok.who.was scared of Maximillion?
I was. It's that giant red bar eye, and red armor
Me, the hell scene put him over the top.
The blades freaked me out as a kid, loved it!
Definitely!
Yes he definitely was disturbing
THAT's IT!!! I'm 'Subbing'!!!!
One of My FAVORITE movies, besides 'Star Wars' is this one.......... for ANYBODY who is a Sci-fi freakazoid, this movie is Right up there! A Great cast of characters, soundtrack, and robots like 'B.O.B.'!!!
And a person who tells us about the story of a lot of movies and "10 things you didn't know...", 'Minty' you really portray the movies in your channel very well....exciting, and full of life.............I especially like the "downer music" in the sadder parts of This posting ( didn't know about the original problems with this movie 🙁)
Thanks for the posting of this wonderful movie!!! You do great work!!!
I saw this film theatrically when I was a kid. I still consider the score to be haunting. Maximillian is still scarier in some respects than Darth Vader. What he did to Anthony Perkins is still nightmare inducing. V.I.N.C.E.N.T and B.O.B are my favorites, and B.O.B's death is still sad. Then how Maximillian and Reinhardt merging into a satanic figure is a perfect metaphor for megalomania.
Me too, I begged and got my Dad to drop me off, age 7., I loved it so much, I hid in the theater so I could watch it again!
I just watched it again this weekend. I thought it was interesting how Reinhardt asked Kate to "Save me from Maximillian". I suppose it was just a trick, but it seemed out of character for him, and I wondered if he actually was scared of the robot, who seemed to disobey him pretty regularly.
Satanic figure? More like Reinhardt's punishment in accordance with his sins. He was trapped inside the body of a murderous robot he created, unable to move, and to eternally look down upon representations of what he had done to the crew. This was his personal hell, his damnation. Very Dante's Inferno.
@@mayssm It was not a trick. Maxy seems to have a will of its own.
@@TheCastellan , I agree that Max has developed a will of his own. I think the line was actually ad lib from Maximillian Schell if I remember correctly. I think it adds an interesting aspect to the story. Later, we see Maximilian obviously ignore Reinhardt's plea for help. He turns back and looks at him, so it is clear he heard him. I think Reinhardt had recognized that he most likely didn't run the ship anymore, but that currently there was a status quo where it wasn't really necessary for anything to change. Reinhardt knew, deep down, that Max could have him sent to the hospital and there would be nothing he could do about it. I mean, was there REALLY any reason for Max to kill Durant other than jealousy?
I have several Maximilian articles. A genuine necklace from back then and several movie b&w pics! Love it!
I own this movie on a 16mm technicolour print.
Two 2400' reels.
Wow!! How the hell did you get your hands on that???
@@brandonpage7087
eBay
There's a small collectors ring around the UK.
As a child I was given the projector from HMS Bristol when the royal navy changed from 16mm to dvd.
It came with 3 short reels of classic cartoons, so it's a treasured childhood toy.
After getting it recapped andHaving all the perished belts replaced by one of the last living repairman I started collecting.
Currently my library is:
1) The Black Hole
2) The Elephant Man
3) Those cartoons.
When we move into our new house will be setting up a _reel_ home cinema.
Ones that I missed, way out of my budget, was an anamorphic print of Aliens. That went for a £1000.
I will give you $8.72 for it! Honestly though, it's priceless!
What?! ok. I'm calm now. That is an amazing thing to read. Maybe we could be fans and pull together to gather funds to see it played 16mm way. like a club, ya know? make friends in away, yeah?
That is very cool :).
If you think about is, The Black Hole is actually an outer-space version of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. Alex Reinhart compares perfectly to Captain Nemo!
Oh, man! I love this movie. Watched it in the theater. some time ago I bought it, never tired of watching it. Thanks for bringing this to us all.
I saw this for the first time a few years ago, fortunately in a theater, and was blown away. Partially because I wasn't expecting that intense overture, but I'm a practical effects nerd and just all the detail in this movie is amazing. It feels like a cross between 20,000 Leagues and Alien more than Star Wars though.
I hope you'll do a list about "Watcher in the Woods" sometime.
The Black hole is definitely one of my very favorite movies of all time. It is an absolute blast.
Under rated classic, always loved the soundtrack and Roddy Mcdowalls wonderfully dry witted Vincent, not to mention the terrifying Maximillian and genuinely sad loss of the battered Texan Bob.
I've always liked the intro to this movie The green grid pattern and the musical score. And of course also like the line Vincent's my name sharp shootings my game.
The music was incredible.
Cap Tin John Barry’s film score was totally awesome!!!!!
Thank you, Minty. This film was so beautiful and moody, and was an excellent entry into the Sci-Fi genre. Silly quirks aside, it’s a film that deserves its accolades. I dare say it influenced several movies in later years. And you just can’t beat that theme!!
I seen the movie in the theater as a kid. The Maximillion hell scene scared the sh!t out of me. I wish I still had my Maximillion model. It was about 10 inches tall, and the arms rotated and articulated. As soon as I got Disney+, it was one of the first movies I watched.
They recently released a Maximillian action figure in 2019, you can probably still find it if you really want to own him again. Made by Diamond Select toys. Also, the two floating droids were made as well. B.o.b. and the other one. I bought all 3!
Cool! I still have the Max model and Vincent with all his extended arms and leg balls. The stands still work but Maxamilions wire don't stay in his back well. As a kid I even rigged red light for his eye. I never heard anyone mention the models before. I can't remember who made them?... AMT? Monogram? MPC Mabey?
Me, too with Disney+ :)
That seen in Hell with Max trapped inside his security-bot freaked me out as well. Really very "dark" for a Disney film.😥
I had that too
I had THE BLACKHOLE wallpaper as a kid... it was AWESOME!! I wanted Star Wars wall paper, but they didn’t have it at the wallpaper store, HA!
I saw this as a child on release. A really dark movie from Disney that was aimed at kids. The bit where Maximillian comes at the camera with a spinning blade weapon was pretty scary as I recall but the really freaky bit was when he merges with his creator at the end and you see the trapped eyes of the human looking out of him whilst standing on an asteroid. That ending gave me nightmares.
Max’s original name? Blendo
The part where the Cygnus is dark and they are flying under and around it- is one of the best cinematic scenes I’ve ever seen ! And the hand painted mats for space were beautiful!
8:01 It was the late seventies, at this stage it was all about going into out of space ............ and disco. :D That made me smile, well done Minty, well done.
French actress Yvette Mimieux was previously known for playing Weena in the classic film _The Time Machine._
Also, for those too young, an overture was where a mix of the film's musical themes were played at the very beginning of the movie, before the first credits even rolled. This was not an optional feature controlled by the theater owners, this was the actual start of the first film reel.
They were a leftover from the old time classic theater days where people would hang out in the lobby before a film started. The lobby lights would flash to let everyone know the film was about to start. The overture served as a buffer to allow everyone time to enter the theater and find their seats without really missing anything.
I think it was a holdover from live theater, where it served the same purpose..
It gets a bad rap, but I have always enjoyed the Black Hole. It was Disney being brave and a gothic horror in space loooonng before Event Horizon. Tonally it's all over the place but it's still a fun watch.
No, it gets the rap it deserves. This was not a good movie even from a 1970s perspective. It was helmed by people stuck in the 1960s and did not have any of the blood Lucas and his generation brought on board. It was outdated way before it hit the screen and Star Wars just accelerated that feeling. Disney had a lot of problems then and even 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea made this movie look dated.
It took me awhile to actually watch this movie beyond the first 15 mins. I was not into Disney producing live action movies. I only watched their cartoons. However, there was a TV station that would broadcast this movie every year. I would just happen to stumble upon it. I would just watch it until the Palomino docked with the Signus. I lost interest in the story at that point. One day I decided to watch it because there was nothing else on. There were times when I lost interest and flipped the channel only to come back to watch it. The movie grew on me and I ended up buying it on DVD.
@@Laceykat66 Stop with the sour grapes just because someone likes a movie you didn't. It's not as if this film exists in direct opposition to something you love. The Black Hole gets better with age and as superior as Star Wars was, it was the beginning of a shark jump that gave us all the trash we have today.
@@paulw6057 I totally agree!
@@paulw6057 Sour Grapes? You keep using that phrase. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Adam made an evaluation I did not agree with and I gave him specific points as to why I disagree. In the olden days this was called a discussion. Black Hole does NOT get "better." The story still drags, the effects were more primitive than 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, and the ending was a poor attempt that did not succeed. It was made at a time when Disney was between great periods. When it was a shell of its former self living on the residuals of re-releases.
I always quote "In... Through... And beyond..." when driving through a tunnel.
Yes!! Same here!
Saw this in the theaters. Loved it, but I was 8 at the time. Watching in in 4k is stunning. And the USS Cygnus is one of the most visually pleasing ships in scifi. I can see the influence of designs from 2001 now that you mentioned who did the designs.
Love that you chose to include this classic, very well done mate!!! ☆☆☆☆☆
My Dad brought me to see this at the theatre when I was a little kid. Didn’t understand ALL that was going on but, the flying robots caught my attention.
Me too. I had the toys as well.
FINALY!!! The Black Hole. As a young boy i watched that movie many many times. I even had a cassette tape from this movie. Maan that theme Music was epic. Great movie. Brings back memories 😌.
As someone who saw the movie in theaters at age 9, I have vivid memories. Maximillian was such a great villain. Genuinely scary! And than final scene.... music so haunting, the Dante's Inferno heaven and hell imagery. It just seemed so DEEP, and I was totally baffled. I've grown to really love this movie.
I remember seeing this when it was released and I loved it. I decided to revisit it about 5 years ago, expecting to have a good laugh but it has held up amazingly well. It stands on it's own even after all these years.
This was one of my favorite Disney movies growing up.
Same here! Black Hole, Pete's Dragon... ,The Fox & the Hound and The Rescuers were all a little dark, but I loved every one of them...
Same, I loved it as a kid
My brother's as well.
I *really* wish Disney Plus would get "Something Wicked This Way Comes". That and Black Hole were two of my favorites.
what about watcher in the woods
In a nutshell, underrated. One of my favourite Disney films, with some impressive special effects and a wonderful score by John Barry.
"A wolf remains a wolf, even if he hasn't eaten your sheep."
wstine79 ...are you programmed to bug me? No, sir...to educate you!
@@scootchy1 When I volunteered for this mission, I never thought I'd end up playing straight man to a "Tin Can" .( Charlie Pizer to V.I.N.C.E.N.T.)
I LOVED this movie when it came out. I was a little too young to fully follow the story, but lived VinCENT, BOB, and the Palomino. (Maximillian gave me nightmares.) However, I had the comic book adaptation which I read several times and was finally able to wrap my head around the entire story.
I just realized it's available on Disney Plus. Going to go rewatch it now.
I think the Event Horizon script took alot of cues from Black Hole.
thats the craziest thing ive read on youtube this month (There is a lot going on right now!) BUT!!! More than likely true!! Yeah, theres some sweet irony in a horror film (and a really good one) based on a Disney flick.
Indeed, but after i watch the 'making of' of Event-H i think they got inspired more from pure horror movies. The ship for exemple, is a cathedral transformed into a spaceship. If you look at the ship, in some view, you can almost see stained Glass that are typical of them... That being said, The Black Hole is a great movie for his time, it just got overshadowed by Star Wars.
reminds me of THE ICE PIRATES
they may have. Heck both the USS Cygnus and the Event Horizon were doomed ships.
Absolutely. They're almost two takes on the same story, but with VERY different time and style. Watching them together as a double feature strangely makes both movies better.
I see this in the Cinema when i was a kid i absolutely loved it.
Its also one of Christopher Nolans favourite films along with The Hitcher..
Good Bad Flicks just did a great analysis of this movie. It went into development long before Star Wars.
The Cygnus spacecraft is one of the best designs of any spaceships in film to this day.
As a kid in the late 70s, I had two posters hanging in my room. One was Spider-man and the other was V.I.N.C.E.N.T. I also loved Tron. If you look close in Tron Legacy, the scene where Flynn is talking to his kid in the bedroom and talks about "Cycles that raced on ribbons of light", there is a toy of B.O.B. in the background behind the two light cycles. Good episode Minty!
Tron's proof of concept used the robots from The Black Hole as stand in bad guys.
@1701gijoe What!? Now I have to go look. Again. Thanks for the tip! Nice catch. I guess 12 viewings later I am still seeing new things.
@1701gijoe Holy crap. How did I miss that one? Lol.
@1701gijoe I still wish Tron was moved to the Marvel universe. Imagine Marvel on the grid. Anyway, I wish your had been right. I think the Black Hole needs a reboot. Not a fan of reboots but I think it could be something pretty cool if done right.
I had a Black Hole metal lunchbox that I proudly took to school in the early 80s. I think it just fell apart from so much use.
Yes.... I love this movie, came out when I was very young and I had all the models. BOB is my favorite.
Another one of my absolute favorites!!! Thank you, Minty!!!!
I loved The Black Hole when I saw it as a kid. I thought (and still do) that the villain robot "Maximillian" was one of the most impressive and scariest villains ever.
I even remember having a "Black Hole" t-shirt and an old-skool metal lunch-box.
I remember seeing this as a drive-in double feature when I was about 4. The Anthony Perkins death scene still haunts me!
I saw it in the theaters as a kid and loved it so when the anniversary edition came out on disk I scored a copy without hesitation - it was just as good as I remembered it being.
As for what to compare it to, I always kind of viewed it as 20,000 Leagues in space with a touch of Island of Dr Moro tossed in for flavor, thus making it more of a drama/thriller/gothic horror than action movie in my book.
It's spelled Dr. Moreau
Exactly.
A lost gem over-looked by the shadow of Star Wars. Thanks for featuring this movie.
I had the big Max robot action figure as a kid and I used it to fight my Luke Skywalker action figure. The Black hole and the Poseidon Adventure have both Ernest Borgnine and Roddy McDowell in them!
I was so excited to see that you featured "The Black Hole"!! I have always said this is an underrated and often overlooked movie. I was obsessed with this movie as a kid!
The BlackHole is Sci-Fi.....Star Wars is Fantasy....drops the Mic
Yeah, it's ridiculous if critics and others think this is a Star Wars ripoff. There is absolutely no similarities other than being in space.
Having angels at the end nullifies it as a Sci fi. It's a sermon in sci-fi clothing
Star wars is scifi fantasy, the black hole was scifi flavoured Christian fan fiction
When I was a kid there were few movies that lived up to my expectations like Empire Strikes Back, Flash Gordon and, yes, even The Black Hole! I saw The Black Hole several times in the theater and considered it a “classic” just like the Star Wars films. It would be several decades later that, to my surprise, it remains an oddity rather than a cool movie that it is.
The Black Hole is very macabre for a Disney film. It is so underrated...I think the makers of Event Horizon (which is also a fave movie of mine) took a lot of inspiration from the Black Hole. So dark with a number of avenues that were not fully explored...Such as why did Reinhardt say "Project me from Maximilian" Brilliant writing...I am surmising that the robot was created by Reinhardt (physically and mentally) , became far too powerful for him to control, by his lust for knowing what was on the other side of the black hole, and his hate for authority...who instructed him to abort and return, and Maximilian was a by product of Reinhardt's dark side, and hate for humanity...Very similar to the fundamental workings of the Forbidden Planet. It is a shame the end was so ambiguous....We obviously see Reinhardt mate and merge with his Frankenstein monster, and become maybe the movies depiction of the Devil....And the other survivors travelling through the glass corridor to Heaven, and hopefully out the other side.
I don't remember them mating. Where did you get that idea?
@@DeathBYDesign666 It is implied at the end with Maximilian and Reinhardt' fusing.... ;)
I always thought Reinhardt said to Kate, "Protect me from Maximillian." I interpreted it as a way to try to pass his insanity as a fear of Maximillian.
@@SoremRasmussen It might well be the way you have mentioned...But it came across to me as though Reinhardt couldnt control his monster any longer. Look at how Maximilian kills Alex Durant...Totally against Reinhardt's wishes. I believe the robot was a manifestation of Reinhardt's darkness from within, and that he was struggling to control his hate. Well thats my take on it anyways. :)
@@jumblesaleboo That's not how reproduction works though. Fusing together on the other hand when the laws of physics break down after the singularity I can believe. In that sense I guess you can kinda interpret it anyway you want. Kinda a weird choice though to be honest, but who am I to judge...
Pa.. paa... pervert! Oh my, excuse me! I think I'm coming down with a case of coronavirus.
I'm just messing with you bro. Lol 😂
An excellent video. The Black Hole has always been a favourite of mine. Something you may have missed is that Sigourney Weaver was considered for the role of Dr Kate McCrae. I also heard that Roddy McDowell and Slim Pickens were not credited because they were brought on after filming was completed for their voice acting so the original cast never heard their actual dialogue until (presumably) when the film was released. I cannot remember where I heard it, thought, so take that with a pinch of salt.
Still love this movie, even though it can be a little cheesy at points. Still watch it on DVD several times a year. I had most of the figures but gave them to my nephews as I got older.😣 Had the models of VINCENT, Max and the Cygnus, but when you play with models, they don't last. V.I.N.C.E.N.T. will always be one of my favorite characters of all time! His confidence/cockiness and his dialogue are fantastic. For you fans, go check out Walgreens. You might get lucky and find the new 2020 upgraded 6" scale remakes of V.I.N.C.E.N.T. and Maximillian if nobody noticed them! Thanks Minty. Another fun video! We'll forgive "Riving" at #8. Love Ya and Cheers Mate!
Definitely one of my favs when growing up. Thanks for the video Minty.
I call The Black Hole. Captain Nemo in space.
Same here, but I like to add a bit more Capt. Ahab going after Moby Dick (Black Hole).
Exactly! Hardly anyone ever seems to pick up on that though, you notice Minty didn't mention it at all.
I've always loved this movie. The script could have been better but this movie has so much more to offer. It has an ominous feel to it from set design to musical score.
I'd like to see,, Ice Pirates on here, that movie is cheesy but good
That movie is great! I love Anjelica Houston's character.
I asked him to do that movie a few years ago on a couple different occasion's. To no Avail.
One of Ron Perlman's first movies!
It was a...space...herpie.
Ice Pirates is good cheesy fun the 1st time you see it but totally unrewatchable
This was awesome, thanks for putting it together! The Black Hole was always one of my favorites, forming a sort of Disney Channel Sci-Fi Trilogy with Tron and The Last Starfighter. In addition to the toys (which I didn't get) and the Comics (which I do own) there was a Black Hole Board Game (setup sort of like Candyland). I think I still have it somewhere in my old stuff. I wore out the cardboard box it came in playing it with my sister when we were kids. Ah, good times!
It has some fatal flaws, but Blackhole is far from the worst movie I have ever seen. It's baffling ending also doesn't help this movie in anyway.
The movie scared me to death as a kid, or more accurately, Maximillin did. That scene with the blender cutting through the books traumatized me. (As well as the crew story, no spoilers)That said, I LOVED Vincent and Bob
Agreed about the ending. It's a major story twist and divergence from what we were watching in the previous 80 minutes. It's like we went from a great space adventure following SOME real physics, to an M. Night Shyamalan twist filled fantasy land.
Gotta agree with you there. The ending was a real WTF back in the day. Wasn't until I was older that I could grasp what fucking happened.
Angi Myers ...I still don't get the ending. The blackhole turned out to be a wormhole? To Heaven and Hell?
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a good Christian allegory. However when it just comes out of left field, you've lost me.
BigGator5 That's what I've gotten out of it. Heaven/hell gate.
I thought The Black Hole was an enjoyable to watch sci-fi movie and was its own thing. Good stuff!
This was the very first movie my parents let me see by myself in the theater. In the scene where the beaten and bloody face POPS up on the screen, my popcorn went 3 rows back. The group of girls it landed on were NOT impressed.
What part was that? When Durant pulls off the visor on the humanoid?
@@jamesnoble8205 At the very end when the evil characters body is seen floating through space. It's all of a sudden RIGHT THERE!!! In my defense, I was 12. lol
@@jamesnoble8205 That "Lobotomized humanoid" was the director Gary Nelson.
@@codemeister26 He passed away recently
Lol
Minty many thanks for this vid. Your summary of this movie was spot on. The Black Hole, Tron and The Rocketeer are my favorite sc-fi movies of all time. Ironically all didn't do great at the box office. But it's to hear that they're receiving the appreciation they deserve.
This was hands down one of my favorite movies as a kid. Probably the dark undertones and music. 😈
I was one of the few who went to see it in theaters when it was released. I loved it then, love it now.
You the man Minty.
I saw this movie in the very early 80's, such an underrated gem!
I had the storybook to this movie back in the day. It was part of a film adaptation series. They had a red, black, and blue logo on the upper right corner.
Ditto, it's been a while since I remember storybooks being a thing. Black Hole definitely frightened me as a young kid (
I had that too!
Wasn't there a 45rpm record version? I kinda remember something like that, but I can't be sure. I might just be confusing the story book version and a Star Wars record.
@@skyden24195 I had the 45rpm version. I played it on my little Lone Ranger record player.
@@phillipmoxley2444 nice, and thanks for the info. That means there is a good chance I did have it amongst the dozen or so other 45rpm storybook records of the time.
Love this movie, perfect for a 70/80's kid. Still have the cassette tape book. I feel old.
I was obsessed with this as a youth. 💯👍💯
Thanks for this review, one of my favorite scifi movies. Saw it in the cinema and was awed by the grandness of the special effects.
I liked this one. We even won the soundtrack on a 78 record in a contest.
They still made 78s in the '70s? I think I had the story record book with a 45.
@@davidhanson4909 No. 78's were long gone by then. I have the soundtrack that I bought back then and it's a normal LP at 33 1/3 rpm.
There's very few movies you talk about that I haven't seen and this is one of them. Always look forward to watching another classic I haven't seen
6:43, it was nominated for Best Visual Effects, but lost to Alien.
GOOD!
Good video and topic to cover. I grew up in the 1970’s and have fond memories of The Black Hole.
An additional merchandising was a Colorforms Black Hole “toy” which I remember having; like thick stickers of the characters you could reapply across a background of the Cygnus bridge I think.
Thanks again. See you “Out There!”
Maximilian utterly terrified me as a kid; when Vincent finally took him out I was cheering in the theater!
I miss movies that got that sort of reaction from the audience. I recently experienced this recently in Godzilla 2014 when he kills the MUTO huge cheers and Rogue One but it was people yelling because they where upset at all th killing of heroes.
Did you pick up on the irony that Max was disabled via a drill through his chest just like he murdered Durant with his spinny blades?
I remember seeing this as a kid and was in awe, now that I’m in my 50s, I can appreciate it as an underrated classic
Do more of Disney live action movies, since Sean Connery's birthday was recently you could do Darby O'Gill and the little people or you could do Something wicked this way comes.
Seconded on both those films. And Bedknobs and Broomsticks.
OMG, I love Darby O'Gill. Sean can sing so well! And, there's a lot of ' 'Disney style' special effects... They're cheesy now, but banshee & the death cab freaked us out when we were kids. And we loved King Brian in all his trickiness. Hehehe.
Yes, and thanks for reminding me of Escape to Witch Mountain. Tron was a big influence.
I love all the corny live action FX like Sid & Marty Krofft and Godzilla.
My 10 year old son and I laugh endlessly at Godzilla's stupid loveable son, Manilla.
Who remembers Condor Man? That was a fun movie that made Lamborghini's look even cooler!
Really surprised you've not mentioned anything about the John Barry score, which along with the score for Moonraker and Raise The Titanic is considered to have come from Barry's golden era of work... the main theme alone is just utterly jaw dropping.
I have not seen this movie in years, I remember having The Black Hole bed sheets as a kid too.
When this film was released I had the book they released with the film which included a vinyl record. "Help me Maximillian...Help Me!" This became my catchphrase for about a year after the film was released, complete with Schell's accent.
I had that too!!! Wish I still did!!!
Didn’t need to credit those two, who back then wouldn’t know it was them. I collected cereal box tops to get their action figures.
John Barry's music is absolutely Hall of Fame Baller material!
The Black Hole has some serious flaws - mostly with clunky dialogue and underwhelming writing, but it still has some very cool things about it that make it worth checking out too. My favorite thing about it is the robot Maximilian - it's just such a cool design - one of my all time favorite robot designs along with Gort from The Day The Earth Stood Still (the original, not the completely awful remake). And I loved the fact that Maximilian didn't speak - that really lent to the menace and "otherness" of his character, which parallels the Reinhardt character. The film score of course is also awesome.
A lot of people criticize the end of this movie, but I actually kind of dug it. If you pay attention to all the references to Dante's Inferno and also factor in various speculations about what black holes are, my opinion is that the end actually reflects some interesting artistic and philosophical choices and gives much food for thought.
Anyway, if you haven't checked it out, I'm with Minty - give it a look.
well said, and good point, thx.
It was also a Disney film, so its not like they could've had the remaining good guys & gal & robot pal all die via being reduced to their basic atoms in the hole. That would've been too dark and depressing an ending.
He didn't speak and it added to his mystery. Where did he come from, there are even hints (script wise) that he just appeared some day. Thus putting in more and more of a "He's a demonic figure due to their proximity to the black hole". It is like Event Horizon before event horizon in many ways lol.
Great job Minty! This movie is definitely an unsung gem.
I was so freaked out by the ending of this movie as a kid. TBH was brutal for what was supposed to be an all ages film.
I saw this when it first came out and I've always thought it was under-appreciated. Thanks for the cool info! I learned a lot! You really ought to do The Poseidon Adventure! (If you haven't; I need to check.)
I knew I had seen that round robot before. It was in Sealab 2020! They must have been fans of Blackhole.
Yep, killed Captain Murphy's pet scorpion with a wrench. RIP Ben🦂.
What! Are you making a necklace!?
Hey! heyheyhey.... Daddy needs his medicine.
One of my favorite films as a kid -- and still one of my favorites today.
My parents wouldn’t take me to see this movie when it came out because it was a PG-rated Disney movie. Ironically, my dad took me to see all the Star Wars movies AND the Indiana Jones movies.
It's pretty sad that he let someone else be the arbiter of what his family was able to do and not trust his own judgment as a man. One of the many problems facing society today is just this.
Hell, my parents took me to the drive in and I saw everything from the Bee Girls which was a soft porn thriller at 5 years old, to some horrific movies that scarred me for life, like legend of Hell house. Which ironically starred Roddy McDowall as well.
My best friend and I went to see this movie when it came out. We told our parents we were going roller skating lol. We both preferred Star Wars but thought it was pretty good too.
@the walkin dude So long, and thanks for all the fish!
I was a little kid but saw this in the theater! And I grew up telling people about it and people not believing me about it. The Disney dark era.. THE BLACK HOLE, The Black Cauldron, Return to OZ... good times..