The Black Hole - The Best Movie You Never Saw
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2020
- Welcome to The Best Movie You NEVER Saw, a column dedicated to examining films that have flown under the radar or gained traction throughout the years, earning them a place as a cult classic or underrated gem that was either before it’s time and/or has aged like a fine wine.
When STAR WARS opened in May of 1977, Hollywood was forever changed by its blockbuster success. Within a year, theaters would be flooded with Star Wars clones and imitators, including one massive-budget effort from Walt Disney Pictures - THE BLACK HOLE.
Join us as we take a look at this obscure and yes, underrated, chapter of Disney's history.
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"No one at Disney really knew how to make a space opera."
I guess that has not changed since then.
It's gotten worse, they're forgetting how to make movies in general.
@@pancake_crab4457 Take a look at those superfluous live action remakes they are doing at the moment: "Wooaaah, those effects!! Whoooah!"
That is the mindset of the casual moviegoer and that is all Disney cares about.
@@BenniRoR It is remarkably pathetic how egregiously ignorant, naive and shallow our people have become. This is what 100 years of undereducation gets you as a nation; a nation of complete idiots.
And I really can't fault Disney for for taking advantage of the weaknesses of our people. If I had the capital I would do the same thing. If you can make money off of people's stupidity, why wouldn't you? I hate them for doing it, of course, but I do not hold them accountable for it. After all, it is up to each individual to continue educating and enriching themselves beyond the public education system, the learning never stops.
What about Treasure Planet? That was awesome. I get the comment regarding Star Wars, but Treasure Planet is really an overlooked gem. Probably the best sci-fi (ish) story Disney has done.
@@danielduncan6806 Wow Daniel, tell us what you really think! I think Mandelorian is a great show, I also thought Rogue One was pretty good. Both of which are Disney productions. This really isn't about audience intelligence. The merch isn't selling because the audience isn't digging what they did with the trilogy. I imagine it has a lot more to do with Hollywood politics than making sure the audience gets a memorable experience. I think it's just as easy to make a great movie as it is to make a bad one if you have the kind of money Disney has to throw behind a production.
Disney's version of the Event Horizon ... this movie scared the shit out of me when I was a kid
Definitely.
Me too, that Maximilian with his spinning blades and all the dead crewmen.. pretty terrifying to a kid
C A this statement is so true. Re watched it recently and it’s still creepy.
I had nightmares for a week.
Event Horizon is that studios version of The Black Hole.
Maximillion scared the f out of me as a kid . The music score is amazing
@A H he played that part to a T
Same!
He’s crazy scary
💯 our family went and I’m the youngest. When we got home my mom tapped on my bedroom door and I started screaming hysterically because I was still traumatized from the movie.
I’m right there with y’all. That SOB gave me nightmares for years.
I’m 49 years old and first saw The Black Hole when I was eight years old when it came out on 1979. I really enjoy it! I love Roddy McDowell’s Vincent and Slim Pickins as Old Bob. I own it on DVD and Blu-Ray now. It’s one of my favorite movies.
@Mike Buckley Now you're 50, and you still have BAD TASTE.
I am 51 and I loved it when I saw it at the cinema.
......cause you didn't get out to the cinema more.
"A wolf is still a wolf. Even if he hasn't eaten your sheep."
The angriest wolves are vegan.
I read the novelization of this movie in jail once…
My dad watched this movie and was wondering why Norman Bates was in space.
Because he was a psycho on earth
This movie was really fun to watch as a kid.
I recently just watched it. The ending was something.
I remember seeing this in the theater.
It's still better than any recent Star Wars film.
Ikr, I remember my 4th grade weacher bringing it to school for the class to watch.
The Cygnus is still one of the best ship designs ever.
IMO the gold in this movie is
1) The unnerving score by John Barry, it sounds like you walking into a long abandoned haunted house.
2) The emptiness of the ship, a foreshadowing of the Cygnus crew, walking around as soulless cybernetic zombies.
3) The gothic glass house look of the Cygnus, perched next to the most destructive force in the universe.
4) The Hell / Heaven sequence at the end, which as a 7 year old raised in a time of wholesome family viewing, scared the sh*t out of me and had me in a mild shock on the bus ride home.
Two moments I had to look away at 9 years old:
-Humanoid / mask removal face reveal.
-Reinhart’s space tumbling face jump scare.
Truly freaked me out then.
The great Ernest Borgnigne
Seen this as a kid and still enjoy watching it. Silent Running is another enjoyable classic.
Love that movie
Silent Running is a great movie and much better than Black Hole
Funny thing is that I never took this to be a Star wars type knockoff like Battlestar or Buck Rogers. From 2001 through to The Black Hole with Silent Running in there, there's an aesthetic style for about a decade or so in sci-fi of grandeur, music, and timing that several films had that were not strictly adventure, but the cerebral as suggested in here. Anyways thanks for this!
@@jamesomeara2329 this and Silent Running could never be mistaken for Star Wars rip offs IMO also, the only thing one could say is Disney wanted to rent the Dykstraflex camera system which was developed for A New Hope but was to expensive, so like ILM did they made their own a more superior system called the Automated Camera Effects System. Watching this on the big screen was pretty cool as well :).
You have to love that dialogue. "It's mission to find habitable life in outer space." Habitable life? LOL! I'm sure they meant habitable planets.
getting "blown out the sky" (used twice) caught my attention. You're in outer space. There is no sky!
Just the tip of the ice berg regarding science gaps in this movie, lol. Oh well, I still love it!
Run-on sentences and the ilk are the best. It'd proof moden movies aren't the only imperfect ones, though unlike in the past people figured out how to make sci-fi while being reasonably scientifically accurate. Even fantasy can be believable if they keep things to a set of conditions just like the laws of physics must. A light saber is clearly fantasy but a lot of us feel in the scenes anyway. Maybe not the prequels, but the more emotionally tight OT and even scenes from the ST did it right. A billion cgi blobs with green and blue glowsticks thrashing on screen isn't always all that epic. And to really sell it as such is not easy.
@@jamiebraswell5520 It's a guilty pleasure on many levels, especially if you ignore all the issues it has.
I chuckled when there was mention of "turbulence" outside the black hole. Turbulence... in the vacuum of outer space, LOL. Doubling down on the ignorance of the masses back in the 1970s, I guess!
I'm old enough to have bought the collector cards for this film
ME TOO! I used to love movie collector cards (I wasn't into baseball and most kids liked baseball cards) Before VCRs became common, it was the only way to remember scenes from movies
@A H Why do you feel the need to employ vulgar language?
@@SJHFoto Why do you feel the need to care?
@@DrJReefer Because it is vulgar and wrong
@@SJHFoto Says you.
If you find harsh language offensive. I suggest you take a look around the world we live in and then shut the fuck up.
Oh boy, this is how big of a nerd I am, and how much I loved this movie growing up ........
@8:17 - " ..... that's V.I.N.CENT. ... which all stands for something, but I can't remember....." Vital Information Necessary CENTralized
A movie from that era I feel is always overlooked: Dragonslayer.
I love Dragonslayer! And I'm also old enough to remember how much hate it got when it first came out. Still don't understand why, honestly. I think it's damn clever
I know! Peter MacNichol is probably one of last surviving cast members, and he seems to hate it.
Dragonslayer is amazing.
Love Dragonslayer!
I agree...but we are talking about the golden age of movies. Conan, Krull, Clash of the Titans, Dreamscape, Red Dawn, Escape from New York....when movies were actually fun.
this movie was SOOOO ahead of its time....a great movie that doesnt get enough credit
I’ve seen the movie at least 20 times and I still love it.
Definitely a classic and much better than some of the other live-action Disney keeps churning out.
I've never seen it, but you made me curious
@@okidokicreations1075 is as it once watched it and it bored me to sleep, take my word for it, the star wars holiday special and this are long lost bedfellows, I used to tell my ex wife that she had the black hole, I did get a few digs.
Great film!
Dude! That movie was always on HBO or Showtime in the 80's ... Must have seen that movie at least two dozen times.
...Also the disney channel. I watched it so much back then. My mom worked for a cable company so we got it for free. Otherwise we’d have been out of luck.
He really should call this series "The Best Movie I Never Saw But Then I Discovered That Most People Have Seen It."
There's one thing about this movie that I've always liked actually two things. I love the intro with the music and the green grid square pattern and also like the robots Vinson and Bob.
@@mtechcom4863 oh well it is what it is I believe I got my point across.
Me to, but ESP for robots was kind of wierd.
Vincent
I saw this at the theatres when it first came out. The ending was a bit of a head scratcher if you were a kid. The effects were amazing for the time it came out. No CGI used.
The opening titles are genuine CGI, but no, none of the effects in the main body of the film are.
I remember watching this in a half empty cinema ....but I really enjoyed it then and now .. can't wait for A4 K release
Remember those book & record sets from the late 70s/early 80s? I had The Black Hole as a kid. It totally skips the Heaven & Hell scene and instead has the probe ship safely arrive in a new galaxy. Robert Forrester says something like "There's a whole galaxy of planets out there. Let's go find one for ourselves."
Later as a teen, I would learn that the movie's ending inspired the Black Sabbath song and album Heaven and Hell, one of my favorites to this day.
Saw it in the theater when I was a kid...maybe 8..definitely made an impression.
Great retrospect on a classic. This is on of the movies my late dad rented for my brother and I during the dawn of VCRs. Kudos on the white plastic VHS boxes reference that Disney used on their tapes... I remember those! 😁
I saw this movie when it first came out and LOVED it. As I grew up, I of course saw the rough spots of it, but I've always had a soft spot for it. I think it's the ultimate example of the type of movie that ACTUALLY should get a remake. It's been started, but then stopped suddenly for other projects.
Love the cough at the beginning... ;)
I remember watching this on HBO over and over and over. I've never seen it as an adult; I'll be 51 next month.
I remember getting this as a Christmas gift all those years ago, and it's what spurred on my love for science fiction, glad it's not as forgotten as I thought!
As a child, I had a "read along" book with record of this movie.
I really get nostalgic when I think about this movie. I do enjoy it every time I re-watch it!
The novelization by Alan Dean Foster is first rate, too.
“You’ll never be obsolete. Cary on the tradition…”The brave and dying robot “Bob” played by Slim Pickens to his fellow robot Model V.I.N.CEN. Such a profound thing for a robot to tell another fellow robot… Still gets me in the feelers…
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Thank you so much for putting up this great video! I loved this film so much ever since it debuted in 1979. I begged my parents for the books and the action figures! I even had a family friend record the film on audio tape. I listened to it SO MUCH I ended up memorizing ALL the lines. Oh man! Such memories. I believe this is considered Disney's one and ONLY horror film? I'm probably wrong. Anyways, thank you for posting and the trip down memory lane. 😊🤗❤
I watched this when I was in highschool... favorite parts were Vincent and Bob. I felt bad about Bob's death scene at the time.
Now that I'm old and beaten up myself, I get a tear watching beat up ol' Bob.
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I loved this film as a kid and I've probably watched it 50 times. The music I found so darn eerie and I still get chills when watching it due to this.
I remember having the action figures (even Vincent!). What I wouldn't give to have them back today
I had the bed sheets for this movie.
Loved it as a kid...and at 48 yrs old, I can say I still "dig" the Black Hole!! Great doc on the merits of this Disney movie
5:26 "Their R-rated stuff now comes out under 20th Century." How quickly things change. During the editing process, Disney killed the 20th Century brand.
I have seen this movie over 100 times. My kid loved it and watched it weekly for months. It is fun and family friendly. The actors did well, the music was great as was the special effects. Wish Disney could be this good again.
I saw The Black Hole in the theater, I had the poster...and...for the record, 9 y/o me loved Condor Man...synchronized Porsche assassins!
I watched the Black Hole when I was a kid and I liked it a lot
I remember watching this a lot as a kid, and I loved it. I just felt it had a kind of dark, existential edge to it.
Because it was!
Oh I've seen it.....multiple times. It's the only thing by Disney I'll watch.
It's weird - but moody and atmospheric. I love it, even with the goofy bits.
since you mentioned Moonraker, I feel it necessary to point out that that is one of the funniest unintentional comedies I have ever seen... Little weed didn't hurt either
I saw this upon its release, aged 8. It was way too dark for me. I really don't know who this movie is aimed at... And the ending looked like they had no idea where it was going.
They did not have an idea. They started shooting without having an ending. One original ending was something along the lines of implying that they discover God inside the black hole. God exists, past, present, and future, so we segue into the painting on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, which shows Kate as one of the angels in the presence of God. Alan Dean Foster had to create his own ending, so he basically had the crew crushed and transformed into atoms and dispersed through the galaxy. Then we have what eventually got shot, which was inspired by Dante's Inferno where the person who is damned suffers a fate in line with the crimes they committed in life.
There was talk of a sequel back then, but i have to wonder how that would be possible. If God delivered them back to Earth at the end (the purposely ambiguous planet is shrouded in shadow so as to leave us wondering), then I suppose they could go on another mission, though it wouldn't really be The Black Hole anymore. If it wasn't Earth, where would a sequel go? Three humans and a robot land their tiny ship on a planet and????
@@jamiebraswell5520 again, who would that be aimed at? It's not a pew pew blow up the death star ending for the kids, and we already had 2001.
I used to watch this all the time as a kid. Even then, the science struck me as less than perfectly worked out. Had no problem with the deliberately cute robots. This one does have real atmosphere and some great scenes. I wouldn't have been surprised if they worked in parts of the sets into some Disney World exhibit or ride.
What gets me is how square things like the dialogue, costuming and general vibe of the movie was. Except for some of the effects, this could've been a movie from the early 60's.
The script had been in development for years, since like 1971 or 72. It originally began as a disaster movie, basically The Poseidon Adventure in space, before being massively retooled after Star Wars hit. So undoubtedly some of those influences stuck around.
Saw this as as a kid in the theatre and got to see Maximilian in a prop tour at Disney MGM Studios years later in the 90s.
I saw this on my first trip to the cinema and loved it - especially the music! (I now have the DVD) Regarding the effects, the camera system developed for The Black Hole was actually more adsvanced than the one used for Star Wars!
Thank God Disney didn't buy Star Wars any earlier
If you want to watch a good forgot science fiction, check out "Silent Running."
I saw this in the theater when I was a kid. That scene with Anthony Perkins getting impaled on Maximilian's spinning blades terrified 8 year old me. But, for months, my friends and I were going around recreating the double barreled blasters with our fingers. I haven't seen it since then, may be worth checking out.
He got his insides chewed up, they show what happened to his book going into Maximilian's blades before they start on his guts...
GREAT Job!
This was cool.
I had been wanting to show my mom Interstellar for a few years and we finally watched it together the other night (she loved it, of course, Interstellar IS a masterpiece, I think), and when they were approaching "Gargantuan" she said, "when you were a kid we use to watch this Disney movie called Black Hole, with these weird robots and a creature named Maximilian..."
And I practically lost my mind; not because she was talking during Interstellar, but because I all but forgot about this movie and whenever I remembered it it was only in vague fragments of something I use to love but couldn't exactly remember why/what, let alone its name.
I was very impressed by her recall of that, and although FEW (space or sci-fi) movies are as great as Interstellar, or Gravity, (or the underrated Ad Astra, IMO) there wouldn't be as many as there are today to choose from if not for those that pioneered the way, "long, long ago
in a galaxy..."
(well, a lot like this one!; )
And needless to say, we will be watching The Black Hole together in the near future for the first time this century/more than a quarter century for sure.
(I can't wait!: )
Thanks again for making this.
A journey that begins where everything ends.
-- Tagline.
Personally, I really love The Black Hole so much. The Black Hole along with Moonraker with Roger Moore, 1941 with John Belushi, and Star Trek: The Motion Picture are the most underrated films of 1979, I can't believe that The Black Hole, Moonraker, 1941, and Star Trek: The Motion Picture are all going to be 45 years old in 2024, and I always enjoyed The Black Hole and Moonraker on repeated viewings. The John Barry music scores for The Black Hole and Moonraker were both absolutely brilliant, The Black Hole had great villains like Dr. Hans Reinhardt and Maximilian the Robot, and Moonraker had superb performances from Roger Moore and Michael Lonsdale. I also really like Star Trek: The Motion Picture, Star Trek: The Motion Picture was a very good Star Trek film, and 1941 with John Belushi was a pretty good Spielberg film.
Overall, I will always have a soft spot for The Black Hole, Moonraker, Star Trek: The Motion Picture, and 1941 with John Belushi, they are all very good cult classic films from 1979, and The Black Hole as well as Moonraker, Star Trek: The Motion Picture, and 1941 are all way more better films than Indiana Jones: The Dial of Destiny.
One of the few films i went to the cinema with my late dad, so i have fond memories of the movie.
you mad sunvfoa, you did it!! lol i spent and hour a year ago looking for re:reviews on this movie and came up (almost) empty. Great pick for BMYNS!
I’m 13 and my dad introduced this movie to me when I was pretty young. This movie will always be part of me and my childhood.
Hugo Kant's Out of Time nu jazz/ trip hop album is based around this movie, with sound fx and dialogue all over the mix
I recently ordered this to watch around Xmas time. A fascinating history around this movie indeed.
Saw this in the theater when I was a kid. Still have the action figures. It’s on Disney Plus now. Good B movie.
Definitely not a ripoff of Star Wars or anything it's its own movie for sure and still one of a kind in a way.Its strange, creepy and sometimes funny and great special effects for its time and an entertaining watch
This movie brings back memories of 9th grade for me. I recorded it on VHS in 1988 and watched it alot back then. Wouldn't have seen it since the late 80s. The end scene with Max on hell mountain and him drilling that guy through the notebook are virtually the only scenes that have stayed with me for over 30 years.
i found The Black Hole pop up story book at a garage sale a few years ago. Beautiful awesome book.
Thank you for mentioning Condorman! That was my favorite movie when I was six. I found a DVD recently…and it kind of holds up.
Love this and a Condorman shoutout as well!
I remember watching this on cable back in the 80's. Can't remember which movie channel, but for like a month or two, that movie got a LOT of airplay. I must have watched it 10 times!
I'm fascinated by this movie. It's so serious and so cheesy and so wrong about ... science that I'm always left scratching my head in bewilderment after. It's not often a movie does that. I love it. :D
I love it because I think the effects and designs hold up well. The cast gives a good performance overall, and the music is awesome. The story isn't bad either, regardless of the scientific hilarity that ensues. It is one of those rare occasions where I am willing to ignore the mistakes and run with it.
@Christine Taggart "They not only got none of the physics right about falling into a black hole, had they gotten it right it would have been a vastly more interesting movie." - Neal deGrasse Tyson, in 2014, on the movie The Black Hole. ;)
I saw the preview for this movie when I was 10 years old and I desperately wanted to see it. But one Saturday, I was outvoted by my siblings and cousins as they wanted to see Magic of Lassie!
YUK. So we saw Lassie and I hated it.
The next week, they gave in and we saw The Black Hole. Everyone loved it! I sure did.
I can still watch it and enjoy it.
I collected all of the trading cards. I even had the novel and I read it a few times.
I watched this for the first time a month ago. It's got a great OST and it's a good sci fi tale
I think this movie was underrated and will be a great one for Disney to remake, as long as they don’t insert a bunch of politics
Joseph Kosinski was going to remake it after Tron Legacy, but that along with Tron 3 fell out of favor once Disney got their hands on Marvel and Star Wars. Maybe for the best if it doesn't get remade now. I dont trust Hollywood with anything anymore.
I watched this movie in the theater when it came out. I loved it! I also built my own Maximilian.
I love this movie. A few years ago, before there was an online Disney service, I ordered the DVD.
The evil robot in this movie haunted my nightmares for about a year after I saw this in theaters
dude thanks so much for reminding me of The Humanoid. You have no idea how long I was looking for that movie!!!! I found it here on RUclips ! :D
I saw this in the theater in its initial release at age nine. I didn’t understand it and it was terrifying to me, particularly the imagery of the Reinhardt in the shell of Maximillian in hell. It was a weird scene to cut into a film for kids.
I later realized that this movie is basically the Fall of the House of Usher in space feebly reenvisioned as a space opera.
The youngest person in the cast (Bottoms) was in his late 20s during shooting.
File this under “what were they thinking?”
This movie is without a doubt the very best single science fiction movie ever made , and the theme music is MAGNIFICENT , WOW what an experience ..
I was a projectionist when this movie came out. Only saw parts of it, as I was working. Decided to watch it the other night. I enjoyed it and was entertained for the length of the movie. I didn't dislike it for all those reasons you mentioned. The soundtrack stuck in my head for a few days! I am used to good Star Wars, Star Trek and Stargate but this is wortth a look.
Great movie...thank God Star Trek The Motion Picture was sold out that night, I remember my brother telling me we were going to see this instead....still fascinated by black holes all these years later....was obsessed with this film as a kid, had both album storybooks and still watch it occasionally as a special treat, like with pizza on my birthday!
I loved that movie!
I still have a few of the action figures somewhere
I enjoy the movie. I have the original soundtrack and I have the DVD version which doesn't have the disney logo on the cover.
I did read the blackhole story book too. It was at the day scare.
Have the DVD at least & The Black Hole was definitely one of the riskiest ventures that Disney would take (the others being "Dragon slayer" & "Tron")
& Sadly one of the few risky ventures that Disney will EVER take
@@Metalisalearning77 I love tron.
Its movies likes these that got me into computer science.
@@tecpaocelotl How's it working now in "The Future" of 2020?
@@Metalisalearning77 sadly everything outsourced to other countries. I do more of accounting.
I watched this film in school in 2003 and it looked pretty good. This movie reminds me of Interstellar, if it was released on 1979. It even has elements that would later be used in the sci-fi horror thriller Event Horizon. There were even talks of a remake as far back as 2009, but nothing has come of it.
We had the book for this movie that you showed; I remember being fascinated by it as a child. My only memories of the movie itself are the red robot (Maximilian) with the spinning blade hands and the laser guns that were like twin blasters. What a throw back to see this come up.
This movie holds such a strange place in my heart. I saw it as a kid and remember being confused that it wasn't anything like Star Wars. Vincent and Bob were entertaining and Maximilian was that great combination of scary and cool that kids love. The movie is strangely beautiful in places and has an AMAZING soundtrack. It's also incredibly weird and just doesn't "feel" like any other space opera. It ends up closer to 2001 than Star Wars and there's nothing really quite like it, especially in the final few scenes where it looses it's mind. I recommend watching it if you haven't. Just think of it more like an indie art film and not a sci-fi blockbuster.
first time I saw it (in a theater when it came out), when they killed Perkin's character I was... "wait, this is a Disney movie".
always been a huge fan of this movie. like you said, my favorite thing is V.I.N.C.E.N.T. (short for Vital Information Necessary CENTralized) (yes, I looked it up) and the visual effects, also that score is hauntingly amazing.
I think this movie deserves more love.
"Disney wasn't considered cool as it is now" Who considers them cool? Please respond
I unapologetically love this move, and have loved it for over 40 years.
I still remember seeing it in the theater, I was almost as obsessed with The Black Hole as I was Star Wars.
Always loved the music, ship design and black hole effect and star fields.
I recently rewatched this movie on Disney+. I was remembering my impressions from its first release in the theater decades ago. I had found it visually seductive and moody, and in any case, I have always been a sucker for robot things.
My feelings on reviewing the movie were much the same as in 1979. I couldn't then and still can't quite figure what went wrong with the movie. There's something missing, and yet it's quite beautiful to watch. Surprisingly so. Maybe it's just too beautiful, and not enough story. The entire time I'm watching, each time, I'm thinking "what's the purpose here?" The dialogue...the underlying story...the casting...it misses, except for Schell and the robot voice work (I love both Slim Pickens and Roddy McDowell---I'll always take as much of either as I can get). The other actors are just not memorable...Perkins, such a potentially interesting talent, is somehow not much of a presence here. Ernest Borgnine is just ballast. Mimieux is insignificant. Joseph Bottoms and Robert Forster? Agreeably handsome guys, one quite youthful and pretty, one rugged, but as used here, could be anybody, in any movie. No impact. I guess they shot their paycheck budget on Schell...
Thanks for visiting this movie. It's well worth watching and considering. There is absolutely something here, but you have to let it wash over you. It has a real weight to it, but all supplied by the idea of Schell's character and his weird Maximillian interactions. He and the hovering red robot frankly haunt the scenes they are not in, but even their spooky imprint can't quite rescue the plot. It needed more thought and some real personality pulse from the supporting characters...more substance, different writers, something. Maybe some sexuality. (It has none.) Some real horror... the kind that bites you and isn't visually poetic. No truly interesting tensions are present here. The timidity of Disney venturing out on the ice...
Schell's character and his Man Friday red robot are the only two figures you can care about. And one's dangerously crazy and the other is a Satan-like machine! Needed different handling for sure.
What went wrong was it was a bad movie. The acting was bad. The characters themselves weren't interesting and had no real depth. The film was very uneven in its pacing. The editing was on a level of amateurish as you could get. The story was a mix mash of a take on Captain Nemo gone extra bat ass crazy with his crew of zombies in space with an evil robot hunting everybody but in the end not really good at its killer robot job. It just didn't work. The only saving grace was that the effects were fairly good (silly if you look at this as adult but good for 1979 from a child's perspective). The robots were not worth the effort to like. I guess the evil robot Maxmillion had some substance and when you saw him coming in a scene (as a child) its ominous presence brought forth dread/fear (that is one thing it had going for it). But the other two robots Vincent and Bob were just Disney trying too hard to replicate the Star Wars robots (R2D2 and C3POO) and failing. The dialog of Vincent and his overall purpose missed the mark every time. About the only reason I can see they made Roddy McDowal the voice of Vincent was because he had an English accent and similar voice temperament to Daniels (C3PO). John Barry's score was OK so at least a score that wasn't horrible like the movie is and you can put it in the pro column but not much else is in that pro column. Even with all that negative it was a Disney film and Disney can make a crap movie (reviews RT 42%, MC 52) and people will see it. However, this movie was also released at Christmas 1979 when it had to deal with an audience going to see Star Trek the Movie during that same Christmas break. And even though Star Trek the Movie was not the greatest it was still much better (reviewed) than the Black Hole and it sucked up a good percentage of that sci-fi audience at the ticket booth. It also didn't help that this was Disney's very first PG movie. So many looking for that standard family fair G rated movie from Disney probably avoided it for the rating it had.
@@psykorobot6807 if you don't like it just say so LOL!
You didn't mention about this also having horror elements and tone. Was terrifying for many kids.
I'd love to see a remake of this movie, I'd pay good money to see it
The first movie I watched at the cinema. Probably watched it a thousand times since - I was obsessed with it and knew the film backwards.
This is the perfect type of film that should really get a remake. I think Alex Garland could be a good fit.
I did see it! And the fact that someone called Bottoms was in it, still makes me smile ...😄
Thanks for doing this movie. Fond memories for me.
I loved that movie when I was a little dude! I don't know if anyone else did but I cared as much then as I do now!
Also, it was cool that both ships were both realistic instead of the flash gordon rockets.
Still remember going to watch it at the pictures when it first came out, and I really enjoyed it. I still enjoy it to this day.
Going to rewatch this weekend.