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AP Just Beat the Rolex Daytona.
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
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The Rolex Daytona! The Titan of Hype, the King of Exclusivity! What happens when it gets beat though? And is it even fair to say a watch can be "beat"? Probably not but either way Michael and Christian are really excited by the new watches coming from AP and can't wait to chat about them!
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I agree! At 8:50, I'd remove the IWC logo too. Logos suck! On most every watch logos suck. The worst offender is Grand Seiko with their clashing "GS" and "Grand Seiko" fonts. It's like scratching on a chalkboard. Using the word, "Grand" in a watch design is already cheesy enough but to add insult to injury with their hideous logo makes never want to buy a Grand Seiko. I would love to have a vintage 6185-8000 but nothing new.
In an apocalypse I'd grab my Citizen 0100.
I work in a menswear shop, and it happens often that I get to compliment customers on their watches, some of which strike a conversation. One customer's wife had the same reaction described here, where I told her she had a great looking watch (white dial full steel Daytona) and she covered it with her hand all shocked. You silly woman, use an ounce of grey matter and understand the difference between "I love the look of your watch ma'am" and "give me everything on your person or I'll pick off your kneecap, then your head"
This has major A Tate energy. 😂😂 relax.
Exactly. That’s someone way too concerned about material possessions.
It’s all about location. Compliments from a random stranger on the subway or in the street are never welcomed. However, at a holiday resort restaurant is ok. I hate strangers drawing unnecessary attention to an expensive watch I’m wearing.
Typical low IQ rolex owner. Its probs the only watch brand she knows anyway haha.
Mike, TB did not such a good job at the Bucks and then retired? Dude, he won a super bowl for them!
I was going to leave this same comment
Was also gonna comment. I mean, I guess he didn’t win 6 for them so it’s technically not as good. Still, come on man!!!
@@rickfanning5647 they were competitive all the years he was there. they haven't had a run like this since I remember that team LOL
I think the VC Overseas Chrono is a much nicer watch than the Code for a similar price
The VC is better in every way.
@@TheNayboy for me, the code’s details - double curved crystal, flying buttress lugs, 24k white gold, finishing and Kevlar strap take it over the vc, which just would remind me every time that’s it’s not a Royal oak chrono, or at least that’s what I telling myself to rationalize getting the burgundy one…😂 I appreciate dial is not for everyone
The morning video drops are my absolute favorite way to start the day. Keep it up Gents, nothing but bigger things ahead for both of you!
Love the flurry of recent videos and consistently great content. I really enjoy binge-watching this channel. Beats Netflix with no monthly subscription fee!
The CODE11 is just... Boring... Looks like any mall watch chrono... I knooooow the finishing etc is better but still
You guys are firing on all cylinders! Thanks for another outstanding episode!
Michael is blessed with common sense (which is the most sophisticated type of intelligence)
Early morning Christian in his bath robe throwing his crypto password in the bin 😂😂.... I almost pissed my pants 😂😂
Did not so good a job? He won the Super Bowl year one with the Bucs!!! Sorry my fandom took over.. I'm here for watches... great work fellas 😂
I know I was like Michael definitely doesn't follow football but I appreciate him anyways.
I once did a Doordash delivery to a lady in a nice house. I knocked on the door (precovid) and when she opened it I handed her the food, she looked at me for a second before gasping and saying "oh you scared me" before taking the food and slamming the door.
I had to fast forward to the AP Segment….idk how i feel about it. I’d def still go for the Daytona tho.
He won the SUPER BOWL in Tampa in their home stadium ".... not such a good job", come on guys you are better than that. (I still love this channel, and you guys are awesome. This was said in jest)
The Code 11.59 looks sporty, but is actually very fragile and has only 30m water resistance. A Daytona is much more suitable for everyday use with 100m water resistance and a robust movement. With the Code 11.59, which has a sporty look, AP missed the chance to release a watch suitable for everyday use. This is by no means a competitor for the Daytona...;-)
The brown/black 11.59 is ceramic for 2k more… already on the waiting list for it
I'm sure you know Christian, but for the rest - They aren't screws on the royal oak. They are bolts dropped in from above and screwed from below. That's how the get they perfect visual placement. 😇
Thx. Didn’t know. I figured it was some precision boring technique.
It is undeniably a really good solution to the visual awkwardness of mismatch screws, though.
If you’re comparing the code 11 to the Daytona then why not do a side by side comparison so we can see what you’re comparing? There are many variants of the Daytona in the 30’s that blow these APs out of the water stylistically; you’re painting a very boring picture and having us imagine a bland and muted “plain Jane” Daytona (if one exists) that actually start at $14k! sure, If you’re comparing a sterile looking silver steel on steel bezel / bracelet combo than ok any of these AP dials pop compared to that, but there are many different Daytonas in this price range (they start in the low teens and have many more crazy options in the 30’s) that easily look much more luxurious and better than this line of AP that appears to come on a nato strap for $30+k. The everrose meteorite dial is in the 30’s and the John Mayer Daytona is also in the 30’s (retail) and both blow all of these code 11’s out of the water visually. not saying it’s a better overall watch at all, but I bet if you polled 100 people that are brand agnostic 75% would pick the Daytona’s in the 30k+ price range over these AP’s on looks alone all day long especially in gold and rose gold, so which Daytona’s are you talking about??
perfect time for my morning coffee and cardio sesh!!
It doesn't matter how generically basic the 1159 looks, you'll still have to buy 1or 2 to get on the Royal Oak waiting list. That's the only reason this thing still exists.
And the secondary market will be flooded with these after all the hopeful RO buyers, who were forced to buy Codes, then try to unload them. No reason to rush to pay MSRP.
Did you ever try the 1159?I did,and belive me,its an incredible watch.
Well the market isnt flooded with codes, so you were wrong
Imagine being Michael's enemy... HE IS ONLY THE NICEST MOST LOVELY HUMAN BEING!
"XX beat Rolex". Insert a watch company for XX and you have the title to the new Theo and Harris video. They all have the same fucking title. As if people buy the Daytona because it's the best. They buy it because it's a Rolex.
Love theb new Code 11.59 in steel !! stunning watch, but would love to see it in 38-39mm
I think the screw lines are used to lift the bolts to the watch.
I have the rose gold Daytona and cannot wear it. To me it's a ladies watch (looks amazing on my wife). The 11.59 Chrono (Rose Gold) turned out to the the perfect watch, that I had thought the Daytona would be. Oh, and I could buy at retail. There's no comparison between the two, except the hype and overpricing of the Daytona. To wear the Daytona on the Oysterflex is the right watch for the ladies, it's just too small for a guy. Saying that my 39 Seamaster Trilogy is the perfect fit.
“As the World Caves In” Matt Maltese.
I wanted to hear it, but I had a hard time finding it. Thought this might help anybody else in the same boat.
Oh I see, we are going to take the logos off of IWC watches because "watch people " would know what they are, but we are going to leave them on Rolexs and everyone knows what they are 🤪. Not a a great call Christian 🤔
Went somewhere else, won another Super Bowl…. 😆😆😆 stick to watches boys
I agree! At 8:50, I'd remove the IWC logo too. Logos suck! On most every watch they suck. The worst offender is Grand Seiko with their clashing "GS" and "Grand Seiko" fonts. It's like scratching on a chalkboard. Using the word, "Grand" in a watch design is already cheesy enough but to add insult to injury with their hideous logo makes never want to buy a Grand Seiko. I would love to have a vintage 6185-8000 but nothing new.
With respect to the value discussion on the 11:59 as well as the jumbo... One massive oversight that wasn't mentioned is that AP no longer hand finishes the movements in any of the watches discussed. With AP today, you're getting a JLC quality movement. No more, no less. Yeah, the case finishing is more complex with AP, but that doesn't make up for what's been lost in the movements. I'm not an AP hater by any means... I just hope more people realize what they're actually getting when paying for an entry to mid level AP (and that includes the 16202!)
Not true for the chrono 11.59. Hand finished
@@vilainpetitcanard1 that's not true at all... Have you seen one under a loupe and do you know what to look for? All the beveling is done with a diamond cutter.
@@loxxrider i do + own one + went to lebrassus. This fully in house movement is hand finished ✌🏼
@@vilainpetitcanard1 the fact that you own one and visited the manufacture aren't evidence of your claims being factual. Look, I'd love to be proven wrong. I'm not an AP hater (though I don't agree with their current business practices, especially lying to their clients about finishing for example). I'd be really interested to see some macro shots supporting your statements. I own a Chronometre Souverain, a Breguet Tradition, and a Lange 1815 Up Down and am intimately familiar with what anglage is supposed to look like (the Journe is the roughest of the bunch). Unless AP changed something in the last several months, your 11:59 chrono does not have hand made anglage. It has something that looks akin to it by the untrained eye, but it's done by machine. Again, I'd be delighted to be proven wrong because it'd make me happier about AP's current direction, but I can't imagine that that's actually the case. Once cost is cut, it's pretty rare to put it back in.
@@loxxrider impressive collection :)
uh, yeah, that code 11.59 is fine, but it doesn't make my socks go up and down like it does for you two. i would still MUCH prefer the Daytona, and I'm not even that much of a Daytona fanboy
I saw someone with a gold AP Royal Oak. I asked him about it and he was clearly nervous. Now I guess he couldn’t see my two tone Omega Seamaster 300 but still. He’s wears a rear gold watch. It’s hard to imagine that he thinks no one is going to notice.
Daytona over that AP.
Congrats! You just gave a proper name to the Audemars Piguet Code 11.59 watch. At 30:50, it is now officially the "AP Ripple" watch.
An episode about your favorite Sinn watches would be interesting :)
Sinn watches are incredible. For the price they are all over engineered. The 556 looks like a simple watch, but it's 200m with screw down crown. I've been keeping my eye on Sinn of late and some of their watches are on a 5 to 6 month wait list, they weren't a year ago. I feel they're going to become really popular soon. I don't mean this in a bad way but I don't think they're expensive enough for Christian to devote an episode too.
If you like Sinn then check out Guinand. Helmut Sinn has ties to Guinand
Along the same lines of "How did they screw down the AP screws?" I love when people now judge other watches with screws that aren't aligned in a specific direction....It's because AP uses bolts and other companies use screws. Basically, they are judging other watches based on their lack of knowledge of both AP AND the difference between screws and bolts. They are the same people who think the most recognizable watch on the planet isn't flashy.
Guys can pleasseeeee do a state of the collection video!
Guys. Its not really a pocast, if you don't put the episodes on the podcast....
ALS makes little Lange 1 which has very similar pattern to that AP
Man I like you guys but AP hasn’t beaten the Daytona in the chrono aspect whatsoever. Gotta stop the clickbaity titles featuring Rolex just for clicks.
It’s business! Also, why hasn’t it beat it?
That IWC is the best use of a dial visible tourbillion ive ever seen.
Ripple was a great description of the AP dial.
Love you guys’ content.
However, doesn’t Omega make a Speedmaster in stainless steel under €10.000???
I feel more open to the code 11:59 after this video but damn would I never buy it over a daytona. Maybe it's just my dainty wrists, or my love for the Oysterflex, but you can essentially get a gold daytona for the price of a steel 11:59 so...
Pats fan here but to be fair, Brady won a Super Bowl in Tampa Bay, so he did ok...
This AP chrono is my new grail watch - what is the model no?
22:51 The look of distain
I can’t submit anything to carrot cause I wear my watches only naked
The case is perfectly round, there is virtually no bezel. the lugs are not at all unusual. So what is it that "Screams IWC"? I sure as hell don't see it.
Which would you pick, all within 5-7k it seems 🤔
New AP code 11:59 ~20k
VC overseas 4500v ~24k
GP laureato skeleton ~ 26k
I would take pretty much any Royal Oak over the VC 4500, but would take the 4500 over the 11:59. Would take a Tag Heuer and keep the rest of my money over the GP.
GP. Very under appreciated brand with amazing history and quality
Tom Brady went to the Bucks and won a Super Bowl the first year with them...
I’d buy the new Code 11:59…after having a Daytona in the collection
Christian, I think a better look would be to button the next button and to find a good laundry.🤔
Nice vid as usual.
It came out 4 minutes ago and it’s 30 minutes long. Lol
A little positivity in the comments section never hurt!
@@TheoandHarris hey I Iove all your videos but how you gonna judge a 30 minute video 4 minutes after
It’s posted? Lol
I’m sure this video will be nice as
Usual but I havnt had the chance to watch it yet.
in the new show Tulsa King, Sylvester Stallone rocks a Piaget Polo.
11.59 pricing is off in my opinion.
i would buy a code 11;59.
Sorry rather go VC or Patek calatrava for the same price
Little misleading...
Code 11 59 time only isn't 20k its 28k and the chronograph isn't 30k it's 38k in USD. Look at their website.
Code looks like you can pick that up at Macys.
Exactly!
No offense guys but these APs do not float my boat whatsoever 😩☹️
TB did win a SB in Tampa so it wasn’t “nothing”
Id really love to hear what yall have to say about Pitzmann watches. Its pretty incredible value at $900
If I could I would I’d be a fucking magician. 😂😂😂😂😂
How many titles can Mike make in an hour? 😂 I can just picture him sitting there pulling his hair out waiting on the clicks.
My apocalypse watch: Sinn U1 :)
Michael ‘I date hot chicks who live on Pretty Privilege’ Kristy and Christian ‘Why are you stealing my TV’ Theron - never change gentlemen!
The new AP chrono is amazing. 👏
Not convinced. Daytona is still the King. This AP design is not timeless. Resale will be not as easy as the Daytona
In an apocalypse and putting on my citizen ProMaster Tough. It's built like a brick shit house and the solar will last longer than I probably will. If I had a solar G-Shock that would be my pick... Note to self buy a 5610 Solar g-shock
what are the glasses he wears!!
Dorky 🤓
The new Code 11.59 Chronograph in stainless steel retail for $35,000 and is on a rubber strap. That’s over 2X the retail price of a stainless steel Rolex Daytona. I agree with you guys, this is by far the best Code ever executed but don’t you think is already too late? They should have released this model 4 years ago at least the stainless steel version to target the new watch collector generation. Thank you for such a good content and keeping us engaged week after week.
The problem is most people can't get a Daytona at retail.
Definitely not a stainless steel Daytona but you can get a yellow gold Daytona for $38,700 or even a two tone yellow gold for $19,100 and that’s way more value than a Code 11.59 in stainless steel with a rubber strap.
Didn’t do well at Tampa? The guy won a SB there…
the lisp killed me instantly
4:30 date wheel is atrocious. Thx but no thx
Don’t even start on the size of it
To me,a date + lupe at 3o'clock
ruins the symmetry to a point
where it's literally painful.
Code 11:59 is the El Camino of watches.
Click bait?!
came for everything right with the watch world
almost left due to everything wrong with the watch world
Keep it!
AP ad
Tell me you don't watch football without( yet) telling me you don't watch football ... Y'all said he sucked at Tampa Bay and he won a Super Bowl in his first year .... haha
Quick reminder: The Daytona FAILED the NASA test. It's a loser watch.
I love it when smaller framed Alpha males go for class over big gaudy over compensation. I’m a big alpha male from Miami so there’s no hope for me however still love to see it 😂
Rather than listen to this, I think I listen to Teddy Baldassare talk about watches. JUST SAYING. NUFF SAID
Maybe she’s wearing a fake Piaget. That’s why. Lol
I agree completely. The new code 11.59 design is great
Love you guys but Michael's stray hair sticking out in front was a little distracting 😅. Great video though.
Friendly feedback: You guys need to calm down with the RUclips Title keyword-stuffing. It's getting old. We come here for the content, not because the algorithm Gods smile upon you.
Realistically how would you even title this. They go over so many stories and topics
AP Beats Patek Philippe
I had to skip 60% of the video because it’s so full of BS. Please focus on watch content.
Fools trying to compare a Rolex Daytona crap, to a AP a mastery in ultimate Haute Horology watch making! Like comparing a Ferrari to a Kia!
You guys get way too horned for AP.
Very overrated brand.
So? Omega has
been doing it for decades.
Ap is trash. Most over rated watch right next to RM. Ill still take the Daytona any day. 30k for a steel watch that costs 800$ to build. Jokes ! 😂