MY ELITE BUSHING SETUP!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- In todays video I set up new bushings! Ive been skating the same bushing set up for quite some time but ive always been on the search for something better! In this video I explore a new bushing option in hopes to find an ELITE BUSHING SET UP! PS. always take your weight into consideration when figuring out if you need Soft, Meduim or Hard bushings. In most cases the heavier you are the harder bushing you should go for.
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Timestamps
00:01 Intro
01:45 Bushing Talk
07:15 Testing Ace Top Bushing
09:14 Testing New Bones Soft Bushing
10:14 Skating
12:17 Final Thoughts
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im just a huge venture fan for years, everything lasts forever !
I find Bones Medium/Hard (although clunky at the start) only take a day to break in, they'll feel soft after that for cruising but you'll never get wheel bite on some silly hard turn or whatever. Although my truck sometimes feels "stuck" in a FS/BS direction, so you need to give it an umph every now and again
Hard bones bushings(used properly like the instructions say on the bushings) with thunder trucks is the only thing that works for me, but I skate freestyle flat.
I have a pair of ace, with ace hard bushings, and it's nice to cruise on, but I think they're still too soft. They absorb my shock when I pop more. The soft and hard ace bushings both cruise nicely though
I can't even ride tensor trucks, they bushings pop through the trucks and get stuck in weird positions. I really like the look of their trucks so I've bought a couple pairs and every single one had the same problem and didn't even last a day.
I got dohdohs soft. Feel great
Years back the rim on the bones bushings lasted for a way longer time, I feel like they got cheap on the process or materials they use and are not the same anymore. The newer bones rims crack so easily now its extremely annoying bc they're great bushings until the rim or core breaks through.
The Ace hards are 94a top and bottom. I love them, they are the hardness that I wish normal stock bushings would be. They still turn well and always come back to center for me (unlike Thunder or Independent stock - get stuck on one side or other). Worth checking out Ace hard low bushings.
Dude my stock indy bushings always get stuck to one side. Ima have to try this out
I like the Independent standard hard conical bushings. Look clean and feel pretty good out the package.
The orange indy bushings are the medium actually.
I do like them also but I got bones bushings the dual cup bushing makes full cabs easier and the pop is so nice but yeah my trucks indy
@@LushiTVIndy bushings
black - hard
Blue - medium
Orange - soft
Shortys doh-dohs!
I would rock doh dogs back in the late 90s early 2000s
They’re made from the same stuff that’s in the bushings our vehicles use so they keep their hardness when the weather changes. Also the only bushings I’ve found with an even 95a duro instead of 94a or 96a.
Been running ace bushings for 7 years
For which trucks?
Classics
Honestly my favorite bushings (and trucks) have been ventures for a long time. I like other brands but i always go back to ventures. They feel so good
I used to try stuff like this. Reusing my old bushings and whatnot. You're honestly better off just putting in all new bushings from the brand of truck you ride. I ride independents so i get the medium bushings and start fresh when i need to. I also replace the pivot cups here and there. I know breaking them in sucks but its completely worth it. Just skate transition for a couple hours and they'll be ready to go and feel amazing and last so much longer.
I've only skated Aces for years now and I've noticed that sometimes Ace bushings take a good 3 sessions to break in. They might be super soft at first and then firm up or the other way around. I don't understand the science of it but I've come to accept that that's just the way it is. Ace Classics and AF1s have slightly different bushings but both white and both come with mediums stock. They have a different duro for top and bottom. Top is always cone shaped and bottom barrel. I'm thinking you probably have Ace Classics tops on bottom if the shop had a bunch of them laying around from people who've switched to some other bushings straight away. Could be AF1s tops also though. Maybe test both when your Ace bushings need replacing and see which ones work best.
I use aftermarket conical medium hard independent bushings, theyre blue. Apparently, theyre the same material as bones bushings but they are way more durable. I noticed the bones bushings have quite a short life span
This is what I am using as well but my top washer does dig in to the top bushing. Been thinking about replacing the top washer with a flat washer or something.
Bones definitely a dope bushing. No break in time. I like the ACE combo bro!
I have so many problems similar to this. My treflips are the test trick, and if my treflip doesnt work, then the trucks are off. I finally get to a setup I like, and something breaks, and shit just gets discombobulated.
its madness all around haha THANKS for watching !
I used to do also change out my thunder bushing with bones. But I recently decided to give royals a chance and so far I haven't had to do anything with them. They feel pretty good. They don't grid as good as thunders. But they feel like a really good inbetween Venture and thunder. I like them a lot!
I use Bones hard bottom bushing on the bottom and stock top Thunder bushing on top. I use the top Thunder washer on the bottom of the truck and the Bones washer on top. Fits perfect 👌
Ace Highs have that yellowish off-white tint, so I believe they probably were Ace bushings. I have yet to try Ace bushings stock, but I have a pair of trucks yet to use. Currently I have Bones hards in Ace lows, and they're perfect, but the Ace Highs might just be fine, can't wait to see. I'll also get rid of my shock n riser with the Ace Highs because I've been liking that height combo
Finally!! I always like those ace highs!! And swore that they changed the bushings from the classic to af1. But that explains it, they did have the yellow tint so must have been the highs
bushing madness is real , I bought both the bones mediums and hard and ended up just going back to the doh doh orange mediums they go perfect with ventures and feel great when they break in .
@robowenmikels what size wheels you riding maybe get risers
That is why we (me and my friend) design and 3D print whatever bushings we want for different trucks with different hardness / comboz :-D
Sizing wise, bones bushings should fit correctly in thunders if you keep the original bottom washer. Then it all depends on finding the hardness you like.
The height of the bottom bushing is important to maintain the designed geometry - if it’s a different height, you’re more likely to have the hanger at an angle that is putting uneven pressure on the bushings, which leads to quicker blow outs. Indy’s/ventures would require removing the bottom washer with bones.
What I found I like is to keep the stock bottom bushing and just replace the top bushing with bones and the flat washer on all my trucks, but I like keeping with venture/Indy’s barrel bottoms for a more solid center.
Flat washers on top are key for a deeper turn and not slicing the bushings like what happened in your video! But then again, who the hell am I trying to tell Tom Asta how to ride his trucks!?
I Ride Slappy Bushings.Or a Independent Red Bottom Bushing and a orange Independent Top Bushing.
This video is kinda old so idk if you’ll see this. I bought a set of Thunder Hollow Lights in black with black bushings and they’re stiff. Even for me as someone who always skated right trucks and how heavy I am. I also have a set of Thunder Lights with translucent bushings and they’re way too soft. So I bought Thunder 97A’s and they’re more my taste. Not as hard as the black bushings, but they’re hard enough. So my suggestion is get the Thunder bushings in a solid color, which I’d think is 93A and up. Then rock the stock top bushings because it’s probably translucent and softer. My thoughts are stable but turns.
I've tried almost every kind of bushings on Thunders... from Indy standards to the "higher end" of the bushing market like Riptide... and Thunders are hard to find bushings that fit up top.
Thunder aftermarket bushings are perfect! Check them out.
What about Riptide? Which type and duro did you try? What you think about them? Thank you
Thunder hollows always and replace the stock bushings with the 94 or 95 Du thunder bushings. Break in process usually takes me about 2 days before they stiffen up.
Pretty sure Ishod rocks two top thunder bushings?
ill have to give this a try THANKS for watching !
Bones should make bushings without this crap plastic part
I use bones hards on my tensors and im 250lbs. I go thru them atleast one set every other month. Had washers seperate from the bushing and even had similar to like your experience with the bottom and the threads rubbing against. I do wish they lasted longer for sure.
Maybe because tensors suck and dont turn but wheelbites easly, meybe now they are better but i 've got them 8 years ago and had to get rid of them
Just threw Krux 92a bushings in my Indy’s. I like it. They’re slightly stiffer than stock Indy’s.
City stars board Silver trucks Ricta wheels Shortys hardware Reds bearings
I skate Thunder 148-149s with stock Thunder bushings 😂
Maybe try ace low bushings. I ride ace af1's with ace hard bushings. I think anyone over 175lbs in weight should get hard or meduim bushings.
maybe if you skate a shorter wheelbase you can get closer easily to the truck turn feeling you are searching, because all those bushing mods change a little big the geometry of the truck making the wheelbase a little closer, maybe if you ride a deck with a short wheelbase you can get this feeling easily
Yep I run Indy's with Thunder rubbers they work really well together....
I have Ace AF 1 hollow. I did try their hard bushings ( I think the top and bottom are both 94a) just to see what they were like and it was like riding a totally different truck. It must be the two different hardness’s in the stock/medium bushings (I think the top bushing is 92a and the bottom is 86a) that make Ace trucks unique. I kinda wanna try them on Krux K5 inverted kingpins.
Been running Independent Super Soft bushings in my Aces for like 5+ years at this point, but the stock Ace bushings are super nice and an easy second choice for me personally.
I love Thunder trucks and the stock bushings, but the bushings on the pair I'm riding wore out. So I picked up the bones mediums and I rock them without washers. So far they feel really good.
Ace trucks are known for being super loose. I ride the AF-1 cause I love how they grind...but I swapped in the ACE hard bushings to make it more manageable.
Only 135 lbs and prefer the Indy medium hard bushings on their Forged Hollows for the same reason. Tighten the nut til it's flush with the kingpin, and we're good!
Grip tape can be used to sand down bushings
ahhh big brain! didnt think of that... THANKS for watching !
I use the extra hard independent bushings. I dont like any threads exposed either and i have to really try to get wheel bite for any contact with the board which is how i prefer it... i will never understand Daewons set up, and dont think i ever will. To each his own
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Oh man, the bushing madness, I fucking hate it lol. A good starting point is bones medium (or thunder aftermarket) WITHOUT washer(s) and then add on washer(s) to see which you like more.
Dude, Bones hards perfectly tightened flush on Ace lows to thread has the nicest turn for me, but I'm like 196 pounds 😂
Ive been using double Bones Mediums for years with 7 threads in with Tensor base-plate, and i try to get hollows for my hangers its just preference, currently using hollow kingpin and regular hanger.
But I use Bones Mediums, on top and bottom, and i am currently switching to tops soft and bottoms medium.
Weight, height really matters...Im 200 pounds, 6ft i used to do bones hard and medium now i just do bones mediums, every once in awhile i gotta swap the bottoms out.
Im using minilogo bottom 94a and bones hard top. Love the combo. Turns on a dime. Hardly ever wheel bite
Bones mediums blow out every six months, but I can't skate any other.
Lol damn man that's hilarious 😅. I rock ACE soft bushings all day.
Ace stock bushing is softer than the top one. It's 80a They also make hard bushing that both bushing are 94a. They do make a bushing for the low trucks. The Thunder lower bushing with the Bones top bushing is decent. Skate the clear ones. The white thunder bushing is too loose
Royal trucks griffin edition, skip the other ones. Royal changed the bushing formula, but the griffin guass works perfect. I rode thunders and also experienced the truck sticking to one side off the bat and kept riding them and got too loose. Gave up on thunders. Royals all the way.
The thunder 95 duro aftermarket bushings. The solid color not the clear
Thunder 148s with independent soft bushings on top and independent medium bushings on the bottom.
i think you should replace de bottom ace bushings becaus the old ones got smaller
Bushings are for the weak I busted mine the first month I started skating and perpetually use broken bushings
Your weight is sitting on the bottom bushing so that one should be harder while the top should be more responsive/softer. I have bones hards on the bottom and bones mediums on the top in thunder trucks and it works great for me (I'm 210 lbs). So for non fat guys, a med bottom and soft top would probably work great.
have you tried rocking double coned bushings from thunders or bones, i had that same problem with rocking the bones soft bushings on my thunder 147 back in 2015 all i did was shuv it in till it fits snug it was a pain especially bones bushings dont go well with thunder mids and they didn't come with a bones washer back then and it would last me for about 6-8months or a year since we live in a tropical weather all year round
I have a set of ace trucks. Just the standard set. But my top bushing blew out on them and now im running bones soft for the top and ace for the top. Ace makes good bottom bushing but terrible top. Running the same bushing set up as you. And I’ll tell you everyone who steps on my board says my trucks feel so smooth.
Asta send me any pair of thunder trucks new or old and I’ll hook you up .. inverted kingpin and ace bushings
Bones should make a barrel version, I've been saying that for years - maybe try mini-logo bushings? never did, but I think it'll be interesting since they basically bones but without the plastic core and the bottom is barrel
Great video. I've been doing similar experiments with Slappy trucks and bones bushings trying to find my perfect setup.
Sorry you have to go through all that Madness. LoL it also sucks when you find something that works and you don’t know the size and the hardness. More madness.😂
I usually skate stock thunder bushings but if I skate hills I put a thunder hard or super hard bushing on the bottom or top depending on how steep the hill is. But if it’s SF, then I’ll put both hard bushings in because of the speed wobbles.
I rode super tight trucks, FORVER As i get older, Ive been getting looser and looser Still a fan of Bones HARDS but barely secure the nut
I've always liked Independent bushings. I'll either go with the stock ones which are medium, or the hard ones. I usually skate independent trucks anyway, but I've tried the bushings in a few other trucks and they seem to work a lot better than the stock ones from those. They last a long time too.
Indy 90’s, Bones hard or med, Thunder 97’s and Silver (if you can find em). All ride good
Ace has Low bushings that fit in Independent trucks or a normal size truck like a Thunder. The stock ones are much taller.
ACE stock Bushings are trash altogether. Way too soft no matter what hardness you choose. They look moronicly tall for no reason, wayy too different to change when you come from other bushings. Nah Tom if you want to keep the bottom one thats fine. But never use them for top.
i keep the original thunder barrel bottom and a bottom bones(bigger one) as top. Less treads and very stable.
I just noticed, your old top bushings are actually bones hards 😅. The color of the plastic insert tells you the hardness.
All day with bones bushings, but I will put the top washer of the truck on the bottom and the bones washer on the top
I just tried Bones B, and kinda like em, the special about BB is the small washer, but heard rumours about how crappy those are, but i’ll see
I skate the white 98a shorty’s doh dohs. I put a factory bushing on top in the front truck though. Loosens the front truck up enough for more pinch on crooked grinds.
wish thunder stock bushings were a bit better. mine blew out so quick multiple times, i replaced em with some Doh Dohs but they were hella squeaky so i tried Bones Mediums and I been liking them
For me I have bones hard on bottom and bones soft on top for the Thunder titanium 147s but you like your board way looser than mine; but I get that crisp hard consistent pop but a deep pinch at the same time so thanks for the idea of using mismatch bushings
my elite setup is front truck has no top bushing and an ace bottom bushing with washers hanging and rattling loose on the top. The back truck either has a top bushing with the washer flipped sonit doesnt dig into it or just washers tightened down medium to tight. Also i run a tensor magnesium mid baseplate with ace or indy hangers.
Tensor interlocking bushings are exceptionall
I feel like venture bushings feel good on thunders and they barely ever blow up or split
Is it better to have softer bushings in the front truck to balance them out..
If you use a razor blade, those little metal disk pop off the bones and I think u put the original shield washer on top, that’s why it fit your truck better before.
The black Bones bushing haven't blown out for me! It's been almost a year. I've tried the white versions three times before and they all blow out. Could be coincidence but idk...
Do you think you’d be able to make a video about how to bail when skating handrails? Great video as well!
Bones bushings arent meant to have a top washer. The bushing top acts as a washer.
I tryed ace trucks and bushings are for skaters that want to look reckless not tech skating bones white medium bushings not the black ones or thunder bushings fire med trucks to get that ol 🤏 pinch!
Dude, I dont know how people play the bushing game! I hate new trucks so bad that once I get a new pair feeling right im not adjusting all, plus when I get my feeble/smith groove in the kingpin nut I dont want to move it. My top bushings have been destroyed on my Indys for over 2 yrs now but I dont seem to notice that big or bad of a difference compared to when I step on my other board that has fairly new ace trucks on it. Now those ace trucks do have a better feeling turn but I can still turn the same if that makes sense. How often do you set up new trucks? Love the content brotha!!🤙
I have this same constant bushing madness and my friends think im a tweaker glad Im not the only one
I always ride the clear thunder ones. But what you said it takes a full sesh to break them in. But for me that feels like my board.😅
I use regular thunder bottom bushing and bones hard for top seems to work pretty good for me but to each his own 😂
Either shorty doh doh red hard bushings or Krux stock white bushings are nice for thunder truck btw Ace trucks are the worst ive had a set
I always use the bushing that comes with the truck and it works well
Just bought aces and the only the bottom fit I could even screw the nut on
Eliot Nolan was here. Fcst is the best skate team.
Switched to Ventures recently and liked the clear purple stock bushings, but they eventually blew out. After seeing recommendations online, I put the hardest Mini Logo bushings in and they feel pretty good. Just barely tighten them and you've got a really stable board you can still turn.
I use Indy stock (orange) on the bottom and then medium hard (blues) on top
i have a pair of thunders and indies and the bottom indie bushing is smaller than the stock thunder bushing(bones bottom is the same height as the thunder without the washer) so it will make your truck angle in a bit and will make the bushings crack faster. and the the top bushing is too tall for thunder. you can get it to fit but the truck wont work right
😂I rock independent bushing on the bottom and bones hard on the top
I ride Indys and right now have the original bushings on them but i really prefer Shorty's Doh Doh mediums.
I mistakenly bought the hard ones and the kingpin nut had to be Barely on there so the lock part of the nut was just grabbing the threads (super scary!) I thought my axles were going to fall off any second!
I just got a set of the Thunder Titaniums and the break in process has been a pain. They stick so much to one side and will be super loose then 30 minutes later really tight. Im very glad to hear that even a pro is struggling to find a proper set up
Yea Tom 🔥🙌🏻, when I skated thunder highs I used to have the yellow medium bones bushings. No washers. But agreed to the life expectancy of the bushings especially Canadians weather they’re great
Try a washer on top and bottom of the bottom bushing.
ACE ASTA coming soon. Might as well make the switch lol.
You can't put a bottom square bushing on the top? Lol
I always skate the Thunder Medium bushings and find that they are perfect. The stock ones are a bit too soft and break quickly for me. That goes for Indy, as well, but I only skate Thunder these days.