As a note, Koraidon used to have a name like all the other paradox pokemon, as was miraidon, the professor just renamed them after. They were called Winged King and Iron Serpent
Yeah the one thing that bothers me about the paradox is the names, these are not portmanteau so it makes it look weird in comparison to the rest of the species.
@@donnadiel THANK YOU, and that's honestly my biggest gripe with those new pokemon. Some say the designs are very weird looking, and i agree but so did Ultra Beasts and i think it works to show that they're not of this world/time period. However, the ultra beasts at least had the iconic portemanteau names that the series is known for. I wish that they got classic names once you caught them.
@@Furret380 it still doesnt make sense why they didint call them by their normal names;.like the great tusk says DOOON-PHAAAN, guess what pokemon is it?
@@M3rtyville It is too late, we are the paradox timeline! Don't believe me? Scarlet Violet, Alpha Saphire, Brilliant Diamond, you thought those were version names nay they be our paradox names!
@@UltaFlame no, they were named by the expedition team that first venture in the great crater. The only AI named paradox pokemon are koraidon/miraidon since they we're the first successful pokemon that get fished out using the time machine.
I've noticed a few people mention the 590 BST paradoxes are both fusions. Like how Iron Valiant is both Gardevoir AND Gallade, Roaring Moon is both basic Salamance AND Mega Salamance. Food for thought.
I think having past forms based on not fully evolved mons is meant to imply that stone evolutions were a development later down the line (since misdreavus, jigglypuff, and magneton all evolve by stones now)
For the Misdresvus and Magneton would make sense since their evolution appeared because of influence from a region that is not their native one, Dusk Stone and the magnetic field, but the Moon Stone... now that is mystery...
@@cactusalucano4013 Yeah, Magnezone in universe is supposed to have originated from a mutation that Magneton got when interacting with Sinnoh´s Mount Coronet, alongside Probopass. It´s not an "original" final form of Magneton. In fact, in the original Gen 4, I´m pretty sure you couldnt actually evolve Magneton in Heartgold and Soulsilver, you had to transfer them from Diamond, Pearl or Platinum , aka From Sinnoh.
The naming convention for the Paradox Pokémon is actually kinda cool. For past paradoxes those pokémon are likely named after myths or legends of the ancient humans, for example "The Great Tusk" . As for the future paradox they might be name after their model, being all assembled machines for example "Model: Iron Valiant"
Yup, I like how they are basically named like cryptids. One thought I had is that Koraidon/Miraidon got real names but the professor died before naming the others, hence why they still have their "cryptid" names
Roaring moon also embraces the salamence Pokedex entry since it says salamence was once called the blood soaked crescent. It litteraly is mega salamence with blood drop like flaps on it's wings and more pronounced legs. I'm sure many other people saw this reference.
I just wish there was some variation in the future paradox naming conventions. The past ones have all sorts of variety in name, but the future ones are just all iron "whatever." They could've used "cyber," "mecha," etc...
im literally so in love with the art in this video. especially the lineless / chibi art. amzing video, well done! cant wait to see the next video for the future mons!!
Similarly iron valiant is based on the mega forms of both gardevoir and gallade (giant dress and red sword arms are notable parts of its design taken from the megas)
So, when Salamence Mega Evolves, this evolution brings out dormant Roaring Moon traits to make it stronger. And when a Kirlia evolved to be Iron Valiant, it naturally brought up the Mega form genes to survive in the cold, cruel, brutal future world.
I love your paradox designs so much!! The honedge is just brilliant, and I love the designs for Dragapult and the Elder Bunker. Also your simplified style of the canon past paradox mons are adorable. Excited to see your take on the future paradox designs as well as the rest of the STEM region.
If you notice something about the pre-evo Paradoxes, they’re all stone evolutions (well, Magnezone retroactively). Maybe that has something to do with it?
@@TheRedSmarty I mean, the main moonstone seems to have been a meteor, so it could be that some evolutionary stones are extraterrestrial in origin. As for magnetic fields, we've only seen them in a few specific areas, so Magnezone might simply not evolve in close enough to Area Zero for it to be pulled through.
i really enjoy how you have added the new gimmicks into your own region with such short notice! I am writing this before i watch the vid, so i am very excited to see these designs!
I would have made acient dragapult water dragon since it use to roam prehistoric waters but ground type fits perfectly too, not all pokemon that live in bodies of water have to be water type. As the paleontology nerd i am i really enjoyed the Past paradox pokemon and this video. This video was amazing, I hope you make more videos like this. Keep up the great work :D
The thing about Paradox mons is that they aren't actually past variants. They seem to be based off depictions seen in universe books, implying that they aren't actually from the past. Hence why Magneton has a Paradox despite the fact it should not exist until the modern age. A Water Dragapult would fit more in a Legends game.
@@poket5489 That makes sense as magnets do originate back to 600 BCE. Maybe not the hoop kind that magneton is based on, but magnets did infact exist back then. especially since legends takes place around the end of the meiji restoration, or around 1918 (though in pokemon its more likely around 1925 since thats when the pokeball was invented in universe according to japanese exclusive lore
On the naming convention of Paradox Pokemon, they all sound like rough translations of East Asian names and monikers. I remember hearing that in Chinese, since the characters represent syllables, they make combos to refer to other things. For example, 'electric brain' means computer, 'big bear cat' means panda, and 'flying machine' is, well, an airplane. I guess maybe the Paradox Pokemon names are translations of the names they had in their times assuming civilization either did exist way back when or still exists that far ahead. Since Game Freak and Nintendo are based in Japan, that would explain why the names sound the way they do. But I am not Asian nor do I speak any other languages besides English and a bit of Spanish at the moment, so take that with a grain of salt. Though personally, I would like it better if they took a route similar to the Ultra Beasts where they are referred to by these 'nicknames' until upon capture we learn their true names.
I must say, the past Dragapult probably should be Dragon Water instead of Dragon Ground. From what we have found and studied of Diplocaulus, its thought the animal was completely aquatic. It still is one hell of a neat design though. And hell, if the paradox pokemon are replications of the past or future, being whats effectively an outdated paleo reconstruction would actually fit very well for that!
My favorite is Slither wing. It still retains the “Volcarona” in its design and I love the slight differences which follows: Terrestrial build, big and fluffier, and the abdomen being the shape of a tail.
alright, i've for sure fallen in love with your art nort, but JEEZZZ my childhood love for ancient animals is EXPLODING atm with your art of the diplocaulus - so excited to see more of your work!
Only thing I might change is I think piercing cut would work better as a Ghost/Rock type. Ghost/Fighting works too, but I feel Ghost/Rock would be more accurate for the stone arrowheads, plus it'd be a unique type.
I really love the concept of past paradox mons especially. I recently made a video with bad audio about 1 particular paradox mon that didn't appear in the game yet and how it ties into the lore of the legendary beasts. There aren't much facts and mostly it is a common theory what the legendary beasts used to be, but I feel interested in the lore for the first time since gen 2 what it means for the origin of the beasts, Ho-oh's powers and the Pokemon that people theorized were originally the legendary beasts. I think the past Pokemon not all being fully evolves is nice as a flavor since it shows that after time past and the climate changes and whatnot, the Pokemon that have the genetic materials of the past paradox mons needed to find another way to adapt, which came in form of literal evolution. Even Salamence who might have gotten stronger taps can tap into its pre-historic genetic material through Mega Evolution and I think that is a nice touch. Past Volcarona kinda looks like an inbetween of Larvarsa and Volcarona. It also focuses on physical attack like Larvarsa and its bug typing. The future version is more focused on the evolved Volcarona and fully embraces the advancement of evolution as it focuses on the special attack and speed stat of Volcarona trying to improve it. Not to mention embracing the Fire Typing and taking advantage of the Fiery Dance signature move Volcarona obtained after evolving from Larvarsa. There seems also the theme that non of the mons have Steel Typing which represents technology and future. Of all Pokemon that could get a Paradox form, I feel Gyarados might have been a good canditate for a past counterpart as it represents a Dragon that seemed to have been demoted for being too aggressive and even it's mega is Dark Type which is the Evil Type in Japanese. So I could see a giant dragon called Violent Serpent with Water/Dragon Typing that speciallizes in powerful offense and decent speed. But I think the developters went out of their way to only give Dragon Typing to the cover Pokemon. Maybe we could have also gotten a Pokemon that has the genetic material of several other Pokemon. Like something that looks like Luvdisc and Alomomola. Or a sea creature that has a horn like Golking, the fins like Seadra, fangs of Sharpedo, eyes of Garchomp and the body + colorscheme of Milotic.
May I drop off an idea for your Future Paradox Pokemon video? Consider the Iron Valiant. It is a fusion design of both Gardevoir and Gallade, two related but distinct pokemon. Perhaps you could make a different fusion design for Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan? Perhaps even Hitmontop if you can squeeze him in? You could call him the Iron Champion, or something.
These are awesome! I wonder how you feel about the future paradox mons? For me the fact they're all robots in the same style and all have Iron in their names felt quite lazy. I'd love to see another take on what "future pokemon" could be but I'm not sure what could be done. If anyone sees this comment and has any ideas I'm Definitely interested to hear them 👀
I know this can be dark for pokemon, but another way to approach future pokemon is with forms of an apocalyptic future, some could be radioactive and that would change their form or some may have adapted to that change and have a new aesthetic
@@marioguazamoran7777 I did think that an angle they could have taken would've been like, based on climate change, extinction, things like that which would be happening in the future, that or them being based off of futuristic aesthetics On one hand these things (apart from the last one) feel too dark but also I feel like some pokedex entries touch on similar subjects?
I also felt the future forms were pretty lazy. I would have been fine with some cybernetic enhancements here and there, but just making them all robots was dumb. For example, they could have made future Donphan be water/ground, because the future climate is more tropical, and making it use its trunk for water like real life elephants do. Just a thought, but so many more creative directions that could have been explored
Decided to make stat spreads for these four for fun, keeping in mind both the 570 BST (with exceptions) and the fact every stat from every past version is an odd number. Elder Bunker: 63/133/121/93/117/43 A more offensive take on Toxapex, behaving more like a tank as supposed to a wall. It looks like it should hurt, so it gets a meaty attack stat, solid special attack, and slightly higher HP and speed, all without losing too much defense and special defense, although there’s still a notable drop. Piercing Cut: 69/153/60/103/69/107 No shield here, so its basically blade form Aegislash, but with high speed to compensate for its permanent frailty. It’s mostly physical now instead of for some reason being mixed, that was always kinda weird, although special attack is still respectable. Marsh Jet: 107/121/127/51/87/ 77 Looks far less mobile than Dragapult, so the drop in speed is a given. That speed moved onto bulk, mainly HP and physical defense. It had to take a hit somewhere else due to having a lower BST, so I just nuked its special attack. Crash Giant: 153/103/97/113/71/33 Not much to say here. Special defense is kinda low, but that’s offset by that massive HP, with everything else being decent except that abysmal speed, but luckily Trick Room’s a thing. Sidenote on Crash Giant: Protosynthesis (the ability past paradoxes bar Koraidon have) works on sunlight. A water past paradox is not gonna like that lol
i think for scream tail, flutter wing, and sandy shocks on why they are the way they are is cause i guess moon stones, dusk stones, and areas with extremely dense magnetic/electrical fields back then
great designs, loving the creativity! im also a big fan of the educational aspect of your videos, i just subbed today for the STEM mon and this video was a pleasant surprise! :-)
I love your art and you fakemons ❤️ the audio quality isn't the best if I've to be honest, but everything else is fire! Even the editing, while still basic, is very good and better than the one of other big Pokètubers. Keep up the good work man, I hope to see more from you soon!
I've been thinking about a past version of Dragapult before it died. It seemed fitting too as Dragapult is violet exclusive (like how Salamence is Violet exclusive so Scarlet gets Roaring Moon to compensate). So your art satisfied me
Great designs! I just beat Pokémon Scarlet and I can see your designs fitting in perfectly with the rest. Looking forward to your future paradox video too!
Add a bite mark shape/bear trap shape pattern on the Marsh Jets face (like the star on garchomps head) and I would call the design perfect. For context, the species or group of species Dragapult is based on are very often found with their face/snout missing-because Dimetrodon would take bites out of their face. It’s a very rare occurrence in the fossil record where where predator/prey interactions can be clearly seen.
I think I have a theory for some of them being non-fully evolved. jigglypuff is because it needs a moonstone to evolve right well what if the elemental stones that were needed to evolve them weren’t around in the past which is why jigglypuff gets is paradox form and not evolution. Same applies to misschievous. The elemental stones that are needed for their evolution weren’t around in the past so them having paradox forms and not their evolution is does kind of make sense when you think about it
Hey i just found your channel, watched your other videos and now you put out a new video and im kinda excited before watching it! Great channel and great ideas!
Love the designs, especially Marsh Jet. Kind of makes me wish for a region that has proper living versions of the fossil Pokemon, as that would fit right in with these. Funnily, Hisui already gave us temporal variants, though a lot closer to modern time than the past Paradox Pokemon. I'm curious if they'll find a way to bring these variants into the modern timeline. One that makes sense I mean, nothing really stops them from just having them be there with no explanation, which is kind of standard for the series.
A little random but here’s what it’d be like if all the Ancient Paradox mon (aside from Koraidon) had names just like normal mon: Great Tusk - Primitusk (primitive + tusk) Brute Bonnet - Mushrute (mushroom + brute; second half also sounds like ‘root’) Sandy Shocks - Maglodyte (magnet + troglodyte) Scream Tail - Gigglyguff (giggly (I imagine that it giggles pretty loud) + gigante (Spanish for “giant”, since many ancient creatures tend to be way bigger than their modern counterparts) + guff (as in foolish talk or ‘guffaw’, a boisterous laugh (thanks to @masterenlightenment5040 for this idea)); following the naming convention of the Jigglypuff line was the best idea I had in mind) Flutter Mane - Flutteruja (flutter + bruja (Spanish for “witch”)) Slither Wing - Slipterona (slip + pteron (Greek for “wing”) + -rona (same ending as Volcarona)) Roaring Moon - Roarescent (roar + crescent + fluorescent, which can mean vividly colorful but is mainly defined as emitting light after absorbing light or other electromagnetic radiation) Alright, time for a Bonus Round! Elder Bunker - Acanthulhu (Acanthaster (genus name of the crown-of-thorns starfish) + Cthulhu (in reference to both Sollasina cthulhu and the Lovecraftian fellow that it’s named after)) Piercing Cut - Archertip (archaeo (relating to prehistory) + archer + chert + tip (of a spear and/or arrow); the “Ar-“ can also derive from Artemis, the goddess of hunting, since Aegislash’s name already references Greek mythology with the aegis) Marsh Jet - Tetropel (tetrapod + propel; this might be the hardest to work on ngl) Crash Giant - Quividras (quiriquinensis & parvidens (two specific names of Aristonectes, the longest known plesiosaur) + -dra (as in dragon) + -ras (same ending as Lapras); there’s also ‘quiver’ since I’m pretty sure that’s how a small creature would react to something massive and long, aside from being in awe I guess)
I love the name ideas, but if you'd like, I'd suggest making "Gigglyfluff" into "Gigglyguff" The "guff" stands for talking nonsense, gibberish if you will, which is often associated with cavemen, and also pulls in from "guffaw" which means a loud boisterous laugh. Really makes me hope in the apparent DLC that they let us figure out their true names.
Oh man, I didn't even think about the version exclusive psudeos trend with the paradox mons! Dragapult is one of my favorite mons (two of my favorite types and based on my favorite animal) and I wasn't even aware that we were robbed...
if i were to add a dex entry for one of these pokemon, it whould be piercing cut and here is what i imagined it to be: "Carved from ancient wood, Primal Cut causes a primal rage into those who tried to wield it and also makes its user hunt with it for all of eternity. It's said that anyone who was affected by Primal Cut is still roaming around the world with decaying flesh and in agonizing pain to this day."
very happy to have stumbled upon you and your channel. I’m normally never crazy about fakemons but probably because i’m a huge science nerd i really like yours and the ideas behind them. I’m excited to see more of your stuff in the future!
I feel theres a subtle punk theming in the past paradox Pokemon as well. For example, both Scream Tail and Sandy Shocks have eyeliner, and the latter powder steel also resembles a mawhawk.
My only critique of the past forms would be dragapult. I think it's a missed opportunity to turn the jets on its head into something more primitive like a bow. It could have a thin membrane that connects the ends of the two head spikes to form the bow string and use its tail to draw it back. Its special attack animation can be that it rears up on its hind legs and curls its tail back, hooking it around the "draw string" and then falling back to all 4s, letting gravity do most of the work in drawing each shot.
Roaring moon and Iron valiant are variations of the mega evolution. Hence why they are placed differently in the pokedex and have a bst of 590 instead of 570
While a more difficult design choice, than the Paradox Pokemon, Convergant Pokemon and Regional Forms, I'd love for you to tackle a video about Ultra Beasts and how you'd design such Pokemon
I think Scarlet should have added Dragonite as a prehistoric that would work too It could be the blue dragonite everyone wants Although a past dragapult would be so cool
Wasn't the Paradoxes about Pokémon looking prehistoric, but being obviously hoax? For example: - Jigglypuff was still on the moon (Moon Stone Pokémon are supposed to be from the Moon, except Skitty I guess) - Salamence haven't evolved to fly yet and would be even less likely to have more feather than today - Magneton cannot exist without human manufacturing the tools - Volcarona couldn't be part dinosaur - Amoongus couldn't show Poké Ball pattern before the invention of Poké Balls, and so on. The reason that Dragapult has no Paradox form is that it did existed in prehistory, so bring it back a past version would not be a Paradox.
4:04 - Haha, nice "Flintstones theme" easter egg! I've listened to too much SiivaGunner to NOT recognize that hidden "Flintstones" theme in there :) -Paintspot Infez Wasabi!
I believe in my theory that all of these past pokemon were the prehistoric mega evolutions of the time since the Roaring moon is almost identical to mega salamence. Maybe pokemon evolutions didn't exist back then instead, they just evolved no 3 stages. You just turn into anything at all.
Seeing Scissor described as a "new" mon blows my mind. I grew up with Pokemon since I was a kid. I did not know that Sciscor was brand new to Gen 2. It was put into melee to promote new Pokemon. *I THOUGHT MOST OF THOSE POKEMON WERE ORIGINALLY IN GEN 1.* *THEY PUT KANTO IN GEN 2 AND I GREW UP THINKING IT WAS ALL THE SAME GAME. GOD, I HATE HAVING ADHD.*
well yes, paradox pokemon are, as the name says paradoxes, contradictions as they are. cool designs btw, i could absolutely see them fit in with the rest
I think when it comes to Paradox Pokémon, they're not so much Pokémon ORIGINALLY from the past and future. Rather, they're Pokémon SENT forward or backwards through time and pulled back/misplaced in the present after going through rapid mutations just to survive in an era they SHOULDN'T exist in. This would explain why Megneton has a Paradox form, but it's strictly a man-made Pokémon. Or why Pokémon like Jigglypuff turned out so savage; in a prehistoric era where most Pokémon are just shy of being outright killing machines, Jigglypuff had no choice but to adapt, and quickly. Assuming multiple Jigglypuff were sent back in time, my guess is that as their population kept slowly increasing in the past, they eventually adapted or mutated to hold their own against things like Aerodactyl or Tyrantrum. But since there weren't any Moon Stones in whatever era they were trapped in, as well as any Igglybuff they birthed would be too easy a meal for other Pokémon, what would later become Scream Tail lost both its baby stage and its evolved form. Though eventually, those Jigglypuff would be called back to the Present by Sada, hence why there wasn't any information about them from long ago and MIGHT explain why these Paradox Pokémon also appeared suddenly in the most recent past; the time machine's endpoint still had some kinks to iron out and some Pokémon got misplaced in an era where Sada and Turo were still toddlers. This just raises more questions and doesn't explain away everything, I know. But this is just how I think Paradox Pokémon came to being and why they're even called "Paradox Pokémon". Though, I'm more than happy to hear what others think about how they came to be.
If they aren't just made-up cryptids brought to life, your idea makes a lot more sense then them actually being ancestors. This is also the game right after the game where a bunch of modern mons and people who shouldn't exist in the late 1800s where sent to the 1800s, so there's precedence for time-displaced modern mons adapting to their new time period before being dragged back.
I feel like sandy shocks is the way it is because: before magneton was a steel type it was a grounded creature and after ages of using electromagnetic energy to collect iron shavings it "evolved" to be a floating steel type.
something i noticed- although this might be over-examining- is that most if not all of the past paradox formes visually reflect sada; whether that be through caveman style clothing, long flowy hair, or even the feminine, fanged face on scream tail. i haven't had the chance to see any of the future paradox formes in 3d so i don't know about them, but its just something i interpreted
4:05 Flinstones theme??? Also I appreciate the dedication to make all of these mons' names fit in the 12 character limit, it's a pet peeve of mine when people don't
As a note, Koraidon used to have a name like all the other paradox pokemon, as was miraidon, the professor just renamed them after. They were called Winged King and Iron Serpent
Yeah the one thing that bothers me about the paradox is the names, these are not portmanteau so it makes it look weird in comparison to the rest of the species.
@@donnadiel IMO it makes sense with past paradox pokemon
@@donnadiel THANK YOU, and that's honestly my biggest gripe with those new pokemon. Some say the designs are very weird looking, and i agree but so did Ultra Beasts and i think it works to show that they're not of this world/time period. However, the ultra beasts at least had the iconic portemanteau names that the series is known for. I wish that they got classic names once you caught them.
@@Furret380 it still doesnt make sense why they didint call them by their normal names;.like the great tusk says DOOON-PHAAAN, guess what pokemon is it?
@@Qoobon_ caterpie
The "Great Tusk" "Scream Tail" type names are basically just the species names like "Electric Mouse"
They WERE named by an ai. The alternate donphans say "don... phaaaa!" Still
@@UltaFlame I mean yeah, but the main point here is that they never got proper names and instead just the "species name"
don't give gamefreak ideas for paradox Pikachu
@@M3rtyville It is too late, we are the paradox timeline! Don't believe me? Scarlet Violet, Alpha Saphire, Brilliant Diamond, you thought those were version names nay they be our paradox names!
@@UltaFlame no, they were named by the expedition team that first venture in the great crater. The only AI named paradox pokemon are koraidon/miraidon since they we're the first successful pokemon that get fished out using the time machine.
Even Koraidon & Miraido also have their "codename".
Koraidon is Winged King
Miraidon is Iron Serpent
Oh and Roaring Moon is based on Mega Salamance
I've noticed a few people mention the 590 BST paradoxes are both fusions. Like how Iron Valiant is both Gardevoir AND Gallade, Roaring Moon is both basic Salamance AND Mega Salamance. Food for thought.
@@abrarkadabrar7829 yes, but Iron Valiant is Mega Gardevoir and Mega Gallade
I think having past forms based on not fully evolved mons is meant to imply that stone evolutions were a development later down the line (since misdreavus, jigglypuff, and magneton all evolve by stones now)
For the Misdresvus and Magneton would make sense since their evolution appeared because of influence from a region that is not their native one, Dusk Stone and the magnetic field, but the Moon Stone... now that is mystery...
@@cactusalucano4013 The *moon* stone isn't exactly native to Kanto, it came from space
wow thats a good idea. that makes sense to me
@@cactusalucano4013 Yeah, Magnezone in universe is supposed to have originated from a mutation that Magneton got when interacting with Sinnoh´s Mount Coronet, alongside Probopass. It´s not an "original" final form of Magneton. In fact, in the original Gen 4, I´m pretty sure you couldnt actually evolve Magneton in Heartgold and Soulsilver, you had to transfer them from Diamond, Pearl or Platinum , aka From Sinnoh.
@@SirDrFriend Okay, yeah. That just clicked now.
The naming convention for the Paradox Pokémon is actually kinda cool. For past paradoxes those pokémon are likely named after myths or legends of the ancient humans, for example "The Great Tusk" . As for the future paradox they might be name after their model, being all assembled machines for example "Model: Iron Valiant"
yesss
Yup, I like how they are basically named like cryptids. One thought I had is that Koraidon/Miraidon got real names but the professor died before naming the others, hence why they still have their "cryptid" names
Roaring moon also embraces the salamence Pokedex entry since it says salamence was once called the blood soaked crescent. It litteraly is mega salamence with blood drop like flaps on it's wings and more pronounced legs. I'm sure many other people saw this reference.
I just wish there was some variation in the future paradox naming conventions. The past ones have all sorts of variety in name, but the future ones are just all iron "whatever."
They could've used "cyber," "mecha," etc...
I just imagine two cave men.
Caveman 1: LOOK. It got big tusk.
Caveman 2: they are great
Together: GREAT TUSK
im literally so in love with the art in this video. especially the lineless / chibi art. amzing video, well done! cant wait to see the next video for the future mons!!
Same! I love this style its so cute
My personal favourite quirk of scarlet paradox mons is how the prehistoric Salamence is based on it's Mega form.
Im so sad that fact was not mentioned in the video. Any mega evolution rep i can get in pokemon nowadays is a win
Similarly iron valiant is based on the mega forms of both gardevoir and gallade (giant dress and red sword arms are notable parts of its design taken from the megas)
So, when Salamence Mega Evolves, this evolution brings out dormant Roaring Moon traits to make it stronger. And when a Kirlia evolved to be Iron Valiant, it naturally brought up the Mega form genes to survive in the cold, cruel, brutal future world.
Iron Valiant is also based off of the Megas of the Raltz Line
I love your paradox designs so much!! The honedge is just brilliant, and I love the designs for Dragapult and the Elder Bunker. Also your simplified style of the canon past paradox mons are adorable. Excited to see your take on the future paradox designs as well as the rest of the STEM region.
But
It’s an aegislash
They are adorable
If you notice something about the pre-evo Paradoxes, they’re all stone evolutions (well, Magnezone retroactively). Maybe that has something to do with it?
Maybe Evolution Stones and special magnetic fields were harder to come by in the past?
@@TheRedSmarty I mean, the main moonstone seems to have been a meteor, so it could be that some evolutionary stones are extraterrestrial in origin.
As for magnetic fields, we've only seen them in a few specific areas, so Magnezone might simply not evolve in close enough to Area Zero for it to be pulled through.
i really enjoy how you have added the new gimmicks into your own region with such short notice! I am writing this before i watch the vid, so i am very excited to see these designs!
You should make a region of pokemon based on microscopic organisms.
Yes! Maybe there could be an inverse of dynamax that allows to shrink everything, not only pokemon, and the player is living in a microscopic region
One question
Why?
@@benjatendo5015 because, it would be cool
@@frostii8034 yes
@@frostii8034 yes
I would have made acient dragapult water dragon since it use to roam prehistoric waters but ground type fits perfectly too, not all pokemon that live in bodies of water have to be water type. As the paleontology nerd i am i really enjoyed the Past paradox pokemon and this video. This video was amazing, I hope you make more videos like this. Keep up the great work :D
The thing about Paradox mons is that they aren't actually past variants. They seem to be based off depictions seen in universe books, implying that they aren't actually from the past. Hence why Magneton has a Paradox despite the fact it should not exist until the modern age.
A Water Dragapult would fit more in a Legends game.
@@Pinkels yeah, but also magnezone roams in the wild not in time distortion in legends Arceus.
@@poket5489 That makes sense as magnets do originate back to 600 BCE. Maybe not the hoop kind that magneton is based on, but magnets did infact exist back then. especially since legends takes place around the end of the meiji restoration, or around 1918 (though in pokemon its more likely around 1925 since thats when the pokeball was invented in universe according to japanese exclusive lore
@@stanzacosmi yeah
On the naming convention of Paradox Pokemon, they all sound like rough translations of East Asian names and monikers. I remember hearing that in Chinese, since the characters represent syllables, they make combos to refer to other things. For example, 'electric brain' means computer, 'big bear cat' means panda, and 'flying machine' is, well, an airplane. I guess maybe the Paradox Pokemon names are translations of the names they had in their times assuming civilization either did exist way back when or still exists that far ahead.
Since Game Freak and Nintendo are based in Japan, that would explain why the names sound the way they do. But I am not Asian nor do I speak any other languages besides English and a bit of Spanish at the moment, so take that with a grain of salt.
Though personally, I would like it better if they took a route similar to the Ultra Beasts where they are referred to by these 'nicknames' until upon capture we learn their true names.
I must say, the past Dragapult probably should be Dragon Water instead of Dragon Ground. From what we have found and studied of Diplocaulus, its thought the animal was completely aquatic. It still is one hell of a neat design though. And hell, if the paradox pokemon are replications of the past or future, being whats effectively an outdated paleo reconstruction would actually fit very well for that!
Pokedex entry's for Koraidon and Miraidon mention their paradox names being Winged King and Iron Serpent
My favorite is Slither wing. It still retains the “Volcarona” in its design and I love the slight differences which follows: Terrestrial build, big and fluffier, and the abdomen being the shape of a tail.
Now looking at it, Dragapult does deserve a past Paradox form. Hopefully it gets one in the DLC.
I agree Dragapualt be apart of
Scarlet ❤ DLC and
Mukrow be a apart of Violet 💜 DCL
alright, i've for sure fallen in love with your art nort, but JEEZZZ
my childhood love for ancient animals is EXPLODING atm with your art of the diplocaulus - so excited to see more of your work!
Crash Giant would definetly be my favorite, it looks badass but also elegant, a combo we dont see often in the pokemon games sadly
Ay! The king is back!! Loving the art style! Just found the channel yesterday and binged the videos! As a nerd, I love the content! ❤❤❤
Only thing I might change is I think piercing cut would work better as a Ghost/Rock type. Ghost/Fighting works too, but I feel Ghost/Rock would be more accurate for the stone arrowheads, plus it'd be a unique type.
I really love the concept of past paradox mons especially.
I recently made a video with bad audio about 1 particular paradox mon that didn't appear in the game yet and how it ties into the lore of the legendary beasts. There aren't much facts and mostly it is a common theory what the legendary beasts used to be, but I feel interested in the lore for the first time since gen 2 what it means for the origin of the beasts, Ho-oh's powers and the Pokemon that people theorized were originally the legendary beasts.
I think the past Pokemon not all being fully evolves is nice as a flavor since it shows that after time past and the climate changes and whatnot, the Pokemon that have the genetic materials of the past paradox mons needed to find another way to adapt, which came in form of literal evolution.
Even Salamence who might have gotten stronger taps can tap into its pre-historic genetic material through Mega Evolution and I think that is a nice touch.
Past Volcarona kinda looks like an inbetween of Larvarsa and Volcarona. It also focuses on physical attack like Larvarsa and its bug typing. The future version is more focused on the evolved Volcarona and fully embraces the advancement of evolution as it focuses on the special attack and speed stat of Volcarona trying to improve it. Not to mention embracing the Fire Typing and taking advantage of the Fiery Dance signature move Volcarona obtained after evolving from Larvarsa.
There seems also the theme that non of the mons have Steel Typing which represents technology and future.
Of all Pokemon that could get a Paradox form, I feel Gyarados might have been a good canditate for a past counterpart as it represents a Dragon that seemed to have been demoted for being too aggressive and even it's mega is Dark Type which is the Evil Type in Japanese. So I could see a giant dragon called Violent Serpent with Water/Dragon Typing that speciallizes in powerful offense and decent speed.
But I think the developters went out of their way to only give Dragon Typing to the cover Pokemon.
Maybe we could have also gotten a Pokemon that has the genetic material of several other Pokemon. Like something that looks like Luvdisc and Alomomola. Or a sea creature that has a horn like Golking, the fins like Seadra, fangs of Sharpedo, eyes of Garchomp and the body + colorscheme of Milotic.
The Flintstones motif in the background music when talking about Sandy Shocks was a nice touch
As someone who loves Aegislash's design, I deeply thank you for that Past-adox version!
May I drop off an idea for your Future Paradox Pokemon video? Consider the Iron Valiant. It is a fusion design of both Gardevoir and Gallade, two related but distinct pokemon. Perhaps you could make a different fusion design for Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan? Perhaps even Hitmontop if you can squeeze him in? You could call him the Iron Champion, or something.
These are awesome!
I wonder how you feel about the future paradox mons? For me the fact they're all robots in the same style and all have Iron in their names felt quite lazy. I'd love to see another take on what "future pokemon" could be but I'm not sure what could be done.
If anyone sees this comment and has any ideas I'm Definitely interested to hear them 👀
I know this can be dark for pokemon, but another way to approach future pokemon is with forms of an apocalyptic future, some could be radioactive and that would change their form or some may have adapted to that change and have a new aesthetic
@@marioguazamoran7777 I did think that an angle they could have taken would've been like, based on climate change, extinction, things like that which would be happening in the future, that or them being based off of futuristic aesthetics
On one hand these things (apart from the last one) feel too dark but also I feel like some pokedex entries touch on similar subjects?
I also felt the future forms were pretty lazy. I would have been fine with some cybernetic enhancements here and there, but just making them all robots was dumb. For example, they could have made future Donphan be water/ground, because the future climate is more tropical, and making it use its trunk for water like real life elephants do. Just a thought, but so many more creative directions that could have been explored
Decided to make stat spreads for these four for fun, keeping in mind both the 570 BST (with exceptions) and the fact every stat from every past version is an odd number.
Elder Bunker: 63/133/121/93/117/43
A more offensive take on Toxapex, behaving more like a tank as supposed to a wall. It looks like it should hurt, so it gets a meaty attack stat, solid special attack, and slightly higher HP and speed, all without losing too much defense and special defense, although there’s still a notable drop.
Piercing Cut: 69/153/60/103/69/107
No shield here, so its basically blade form Aegislash, but with high speed to compensate for its permanent frailty. It’s mostly physical now instead of for some reason being mixed, that was always kinda weird, although special attack is still respectable.
Marsh Jet: 107/121/127/51/87/ 77
Looks far less mobile than Dragapult, so the drop in speed is a given. That speed moved onto bulk, mainly HP and physical defense. It had to take a hit somewhere else due to having a lower BST, so I just nuked its special attack.
Crash Giant: 153/103/97/113/71/33
Not much to say here. Special defense is kinda low, but that’s offset by that massive HP, with everything else being decent except that abysmal speed, but luckily Trick Room’s a thing.
Sidenote on Crash Giant: Protosynthesis (the ability past paradoxes bar Koraidon have) works on sunlight. A water past paradox is not gonna like that lol
i love your designs so much! marsh jet might have to be my favorite. id love to see something like these in a possible dlc.
the arrow head slashing cut, i love the fella :D
i think for scream tail, flutter wing, and sandy shocks on why they are the way they are is cause i guess moon stones, dusk stones, and areas with extremely dense magnetic/electrical fields back then
great designs, loving the creativity! im also a big fan of the educational aspect of your videos, i just subbed today for the STEM mon and this video was a pleasant surprise! :-)
I love your art and you fakemons ❤️ the audio quality isn't the best if I've to be honest, but everything else is fire! Even the editing, while still basic, is very good and better than the one of other big Pokètubers. Keep up the good work man, I hope to see more from you soon!
When I subscribed to this channel you didn't have 400 subscribers yet and now you have over 7k
*keep it going bro*
I've been thinking about a past version of Dragapult before it died. It seemed fitting too as Dragapult is violet exclusive (like how Salamence is Violet exclusive so Scarlet gets Roaring Moon to compensate). So your art satisfied me
Incredible video bro! Honestly really beautiful art and script overall!
I think that for marsh jet, you should have added multiple atlatl to replace the dreepy slots, and put a thinner, sleeker dreepy on those atlatl.
Great designs! I just beat Pokémon Scarlet and I can see your designs fitting in perfectly with the rest. Looking forward to your future paradox video too!
Add a bite mark shape/bear trap shape pattern on the Marsh Jets face (like the star on garchomps head) and I would call the design perfect. For context, the species or group of species Dragapult is based on are very often found with their face/snout missing-because Dimetrodon would take bites out of their face. It’s a very rare occurrence in the fossil record where where predator/prey interactions can be clearly seen.
I genuinely love these designs. The video quality was great and I really enjoyed the content, despite the funky mic lol. +1 like, +1 sub
I love your minimalist design of Korraidon, makes him so much cuter
I think I have a theory for some of them being non-fully evolved. jigglypuff is because it needs a moonstone to evolve right well what if the elemental stones that were needed to evolve them weren’t around in the past which is why jigglypuff gets is paradox form and not evolution. Same applies to misschievous. The elemental stones that are needed for their evolution weren’t around in the past so them having paradox forms and not their evolution is does kind of make sense when you think about it
Man your art and video styles are so cool keep it up
I really like marsh jet because the design fits and I like the diplocaulus, and dragapult is a powerful and coo looking Pokémon. Thanks!
Hey i just found your channel, watched your other videos and now you put out a new video and im kinda excited before watching it! Great channel and great ideas!
Love the designs, especially Marsh Jet. Kind of makes me wish for a region that has proper living versions of the fossil Pokemon, as that would fit right in with these.
Funnily, Hisui already gave us temporal variants, though a lot closer to modern time than the past Paradox Pokemon. I'm curious if they'll find a way to bring these variants into the modern timeline. One that makes sense I mean, nothing really stops them from just having them be there with no explanation, which is kind of standard for the series.
Imagine catching a piercing cut and it just goes “yabadabadoo”
A little random but here’s what it’d be like if all the Ancient Paradox mon (aside from Koraidon) had names just like normal mon:
Great Tusk - Primitusk (primitive + tusk)
Brute Bonnet - Mushrute (mushroom + brute; second half also sounds like ‘root’)
Sandy Shocks - Maglodyte (magnet + troglodyte)
Scream Tail - Gigglyguff (giggly (I imagine that it giggles pretty loud) + gigante (Spanish for “giant”, since many ancient creatures tend to be way bigger than their modern counterparts) + guff (as in foolish talk or ‘guffaw’, a boisterous laugh (thanks to @masterenlightenment5040 for this idea)); following the naming convention of the Jigglypuff line was the best idea I had in mind)
Flutter Mane - Flutteruja (flutter + bruja (Spanish for “witch”))
Slither Wing - Slipterona (slip + pteron (Greek for “wing”) + -rona (same ending as Volcarona))
Roaring Moon - Roarescent (roar + crescent + fluorescent, which can mean vividly colorful but is mainly defined as emitting light after absorbing light or other electromagnetic radiation)
Alright, time for a Bonus Round!
Elder Bunker - Acanthulhu (Acanthaster (genus name of the crown-of-thorns starfish) + Cthulhu (in reference to both Sollasina cthulhu and the Lovecraftian fellow that it’s named after))
Piercing Cut - Archertip (archaeo (relating to prehistory) + archer + chert + tip (of a spear and/or arrow); the “Ar-“ can also derive from Artemis, the goddess of hunting, since Aegislash’s name already references Greek mythology with the aegis)
Marsh Jet - Tetropel (tetrapod + propel; this might be the hardest to work on ngl)
Crash Giant - Quividras (quiriquinensis & parvidens (two specific names of Aristonectes, the longest known plesiosaur) + -dra (as in dragon) + -ras (same ending as Lapras); there’s also ‘quiver’ since I’m pretty sure that’s how a small creature would react to something massive and long, aside from being in awe I guess)
I love the name ideas, but if you'd like, I'd suggest making "Gigglyfluff" into "Gigglyguff"
The "guff" stands for talking nonsense, gibberish if you will, which is often associated with cavemen, and also pulls in from "guffaw" which means a loud boisterous laugh.
Really makes me hope in the apparent DLC that they let us figure out their true names.
@@masterofadapting Good idea! Thanks for the suggestion
@@prehistoricfanboy101 np!
So cool you have original music arrangements for your vids
I would love to see u make some future forms for mons, that would be really cool. Keep up the great work
All the NFE past paradox mons are mons that evolve with stones or the charged area that magneton uses, so that might be something
Oh man, I didn't even think about the version exclusive psudeos trend with the paradox mons! Dragapult is one of my favorite mons (two of my favorite types and based on my favorite animal) and I wasn't even aware that we were robbed...
if i were to add a dex entry for one of these pokemon, it whould be piercing cut and here is what i imagined it to be: "Carved from ancient wood, Primal Cut causes a primal rage into those who tried to wield it and also makes its user hunt with it for all of eternity. It's said that anyone who was affected by Primal Cut is still roaming around the world with decaying flesh and in agonizing pain to this day."
aegislash is my favorite pokemon, and I LOVE piercing cut
very happy to have stumbled upon you and your channel. I’m normally never crazy about fakemons but probably because i’m a huge science nerd i really like yours and the ideas behind them. I’m excited to see more of your stuff in the future!
The past paradox pokemon remind me of David Peter's style reconstructions. Lots of weird feathers and spikes for no reason.
Ayeee...love your style!! Wish you keep growing faster faster.
I love your Pokémon designs and ideas they look amazing! Keep up the great content
The thing about the “Not fully evolved” paradox mons. If you notice, all of those ones (Jigglypuff, Misdreavus, Magneton) they all evolve from stones.
I love Piercing Cut's design!
I feel theres a subtle punk theming in the past paradox Pokemon as well. For example, both Scream Tail and Sandy Shocks have eyeliner, and the latter powder steel also resembles a mawhawk.
Been following your Instagram page for ages, just found your RUclips channel, and Wow! You've got such a good way with words
Gl on creating your own game you got good designs i could never do that good art keep it up
My only critique of the past forms would be dragapult. I think it's a missed opportunity to turn the jets on its head into something more primitive like a bow. It could have a thin membrane that connects the ends of the two head spikes to form the bow string and use its tail to draw it back. Its special attack animation can be that it rears up on its hind legs and curls its tail back, hooking it around the "draw string" and then falling back to all 4s, letting gravity do most of the work in drawing each shot.
I love the Monster Hunter style icons. Really clean 👌🏻
5:09 Weird because I’ve seen Koraidon getting more attention than Miraidon online
Lapras deserves more, love all the designs and the channel in general
Roaring moon and Iron valiant are variations of the mega evolution. Hence why they are placed differently in the pokedex and have a bst of 590 instead of 570
A cool edition you could do to piercing cut is having engravings like early tribes would do to mark their weapons
I like how the past mons are mostly ones who got new evolutions after being introduced
i love that scream tail art
While a more difficult design choice, than the Paradox Pokemon, Convergant Pokemon and Regional Forms, I'd love for you to tackle a video about Ultra Beasts and how you'd design such Pokemon
I think Scarlet should have added Dragonite as a prehistoric that would work too
It could be the blue dragonite everyone wants
Although a past dragapult would be so cool
Wasn't the Paradoxes about Pokémon looking prehistoric, but being obviously hoax? For example:
- Jigglypuff was still on the moon (Moon Stone Pokémon are supposed to be from the Moon, except Skitty I guess)
- Salamence haven't evolved to fly yet and would be even less likely to have more feather than today
- Magneton cannot exist without human manufacturing the tools
- Volcarona couldn't be part dinosaur
- Amoongus couldn't show Poké Ball pattern before the invention of Poké Balls, and so on.
The reason that Dragapult has no Paradox form is that it did existed in prehistory, so bring it back a past version would not be a Paradox.
the dragapult design is incredible
4:04 - Haha, nice "Flintstones theme" easter egg! I've listened to too much SiivaGunner to NOT recognize that hidden "Flintstones" theme in there :)
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I believe in my theory that all of these past pokemon were the prehistoric mega evolutions of the time since the Roaring moon is almost identical to mega salamence. Maybe pokemon evolutions didn't exist back then instead, they just evolved no 3 stages. You just turn into anything at all.
i love the dragapult design
That ancient Lapras form makes sooo much sense.
Seeing Scissor described as a "new" mon blows my mind.
I grew up with Pokemon since I was a kid. I did not know that Sciscor was brand new to Gen 2. It was put into melee to promote new Pokemon. *I THOUGHT MOST OF THOSE POKEMON WERE ORIGINALLY IN GEN 1.*
*THEY PUT KANTO IN GEN 2 AND I GREW UP THINKING IT WAS ALL THE SAME GAME. GOD, I HATE HAVING ADHD.*
this is a great video NORT!
well yes, paradox pokemon are, as the name says paradoxes, contradictions as they are. cool designs btw, i could absolutely see them fit in with the rest
I think when it comes to Paradox Pokémon, they're not so much Pokémon ORIGINALLY from the past and future. Rather, they're Pokémon SENT forward or backwards through time and pulled back/misplaced in the present after going through rapid mutations just to survive in an era they SHOULDN'T exist in.
This would explain why Megneton has a Paradox form, but it's strictly a man-made Pokémon. Or why Pokémon like Jigglypuff turned out so savage; in a prehistoric era where most Pokémon are just shy of being outright killing machines, Jigglypuff had no choice but to adapt, and quickly. Assuming multiple Jigglypuff were sent back in time, my guess is that as their population kept slowly increasing in the past, they eventually adapted or mutated to hold their own against things like Aerodactyl or Tyrantrum. But since there weren't any Moon Stones in whatever era they were trapped in, as well as any Igglybuff they birthed would be too easy a meal for other Pokémon, what would later become Scream Tail lost both its baby stage and its evolved form. Though eventually, those Jigglypuff would be called back to the Present by Sada, hence why there wasn't any information about them from long ago and MIGHT explain why these Paradox Pokémon also appeared suddenly in the most recent past; the time machine's endpoint still had some kinks to iron out and some Pokémon got misplaced in an era where Sada and Turo were still toddlers.
This just raises more questions and doesn't explain away everything, I know. But this is just how I think Paradox Pokémon came to being and why they're even called "Paradox Pokémon". Though, I'm more than happy to hear what others think about how they came to be.
If they aren't just made-up cryptids brought to life, your idea makes a lot more sense then them actually being ancestors. This is also the game right after the game where a bunch of modern mons and people who shouldn't exist in the late 1800s where sent to the 1800s, so there's precedence for time-displaced modern mons adapting to their new time period before being dragged back.
I'd love if DLC had more Paradoxes
I love the Paradox Pokémon of these games!
Toxapex lookin like a damn heartless. Good stuff.
I LOVE DRAGAPULT THX VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT FORM
I feel like sandy shocks is the way it is because: before magneton was a steel type it was a grounded creature and after ages of using electromagnetic energy to collect iron shavings it "evolved" to be a floating steel type.
Hiiii nice vid!!! Your designs looks really cool!
I love your designs
We’re most definitely getting a past paradox dragapult. If the
Spoliers
DLC leaks have any truth to them, especially with that past virizion
Wasn’t the past one…
Spoilers…
Suicune?
All but 2 of the paradox Pokémon have the same naming scheme as deviant monsters from generations/generations ultimate (in Japan)
Yess there from the past
woahhh the aegislash mon is AWESOME!
absolutely love your channel!!
For the past Paradox Pokémons, I would like:
- Great Tusk,
- Roaring Moon,
- Slither Wing,
- Koraidon
They for sure held off on water types for the paradox pokemon aside from delibird because they’re planning for future dlc
something i noticed- although this might be over-examining- is that most if not all of the past paradox formes visually reflect sada; whether that be through caveman style clothing, long flowy hair, or even the feminine, fanged face on scream tail. i haven't had the chance to see any of the future paradox formes in 3d so i don't know about them, but its just something i interpreted
4:05 Flinstones theme???
Also I appreciate the dedication to make all of these mons' names fit in the 12 character limit, it's a pet peeve of mine when people don't
Koraidon's Paradox name is Winged King, if that helps. Past paradox pokemon typically are named after physical features apparently.