Depp v. Heard Trial Day 19 Afternoon - Deposition Testimony Ron Schnell, Ellen Barkin
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0:00 Welcome
6:50 Ron Schnell Testimony - Direct
37:11 Ron Schnell Testimony - Cross-Examination
53:02 Ron Schnell Testimony - Re-Direct
1:00:26 Michelle Mulrooney Video Testimony
1:15:00 Tina Newman Disney Production Executive - Video Testimony
1:31:59 Ellen Barkin Video Testimony
1:42:53 Court Break & Questions
2:06:01 Dr Allen Blaustein Video Testimony
2:38:24 Eric George Video Testimony
2:48:18 Jessica Kovacevic Video Testimony
3:14:39 Q&A Time
3:23:00 Don't Send Hate to Dr Allen Blaustein!
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AH Team did a Phenomenal Job arguing Johnny Depps Case for him, today, and even donated 8 hours of their OWN court time to do so. We Want to say thank you.
Right?! 😂🤣
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I'm behind today by like 4 hours so when I read your comment, I was all, 'Oh Goodie. Oh Goodie. Oh Goodie.' 😁😜
@@trishaprimeaux7981 dude same! I just started the after lunch portion
@@trishaprimeaux7981 lol me too!! Trying hard not to skip to the end to see if Grunkle joins Emily after court today 🤣🤣
Is anyone else irritated that mainstream media are painting poeple who are skeptical of Ambers accusations are "crazed" and "obssessed" johnny depp fans? Like cant I just be a person with eyes, ears, and common sense?
Oh I am so done with mainstream media. I can’t watch anymore of them. They change the narratives and I shake my head ! I have been watching this trial from day one and wonder are they watching the same thing I am ?
@@KelliBronxGirlI reckon a lot of them didn't watch any of it from what they sound like
A prominent entertainer said today “JD Is a very private person & would not have allowed all of this Public if he had not believed he was in the right !”
yes indeed.
Glad he exposed that terrible woman.
It’s so frustrating that the agents kept referring to the statements but not the fact that she 💩 in someone’s bed, that she hit her husband, that she lies & that it’s her behaviour.. let’s just blame others. Ye that makes sense
Very true. We've always known him as extremely private. Unlike many others in the entertainment industry, he actually doesn't like the attention, or at the very least keeps it at arms' length as much as possible.
He takes part in it when it is his job to do so, like when promoting films. Other than that, he keeps his head down. This trial required him to tear himself open and expose the nasty, untidy, damaged, perfectly imperfect core of himself.
And we saw it, and many of us said "Ok, we see you've not always made the best decisions, but we still like you". But he couldn't have known that this would happen, given what happened in the UK.
The desperation of going back almost 30 years to say JD threw a bottle at the wall is pitiful 🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️
I love how she said it was lobbed at no one and Elaine was seriously like "but if it WAS at you, would it have injured you?"
Bitter
Yep their case is falling apart. But a chuckle moment is looking at Rottenborne & Heard's Twin Smirks. Both have exactly the same pull their lips down at the sides pissy frown smirk. Ole boy must have needed this paycheck or he believes and Elaine & Heard lost this over him.
💯😂
She hated his drug use yet controlled his meds and surrounded him with drug users constantly. The wedding itinerary was out of this world
None of it makes sense
There’s an audio clip in evidence of her saying “want me to pour you a glass?” and Depp says “but I’m an alcoholic” and she goes on to say something about how she can’t control if he drinks or uses..a liitttlleeee frustrating..
She's a know IV coke addict
Seems to be a grifter who targeted the "old fat" big bucks actor.
@@nikit0r I
@@nikit0r 😳😳😳
Summary of Day 19: Johnny met Amber and then his life, friendships and business relationships immediately started going to shit.
Absolutely
His spending also went 'wild' starting with that ... thing
Pretty much sums it up!
100%
Excellent summary!
As a doctor myself, I really felt for Dr Blaustein. I can see the empathy in him and his desire to protect his patient. He appears as someone who takes his oath seriously. People who think he is breaching HIPAA have to understand that doctors who testify don't just wake up one day and decide to break doctor-patient confidentiality. There are organisations we can consult (that have lawyers who provide medico-legal advice) that guide us through certain processes, such as the ones you are witnessing.
100%. He presented as cautious and empathetic, and respectful of privacy. Super genuine.
In regards to JD psychologist, it just shows he actually went to therapy and was honest about his feelings. Which trauma survivor doesn't have anger issues.
You could see he was uncomfortable but I think he chose well to have him coz it just showed his humanity & raw issues that most of us deal with.
Inner demons. Not a crazed abuser like she claimed.
Emily I truly can’t believe your dedication to this case, 5-8 hours sitting in front of the computer/camera just to give us clarity and insight. I really appreciate it, girl. Hope you do a lot of self care and get to relax at night. You deserve it!
Agree! Fronting on her own for 98% of the time is an incredible feat. Appreciate the effort, insight and empathy and applaud the growth of the channel 👏 👏
Right! I think it's more like 10 hours she gives us and we are so grateful!
My bladder would get me fired, Emily is a boss!!!
@@Sheffylu Lmao i didn’t even think of that…Emily, HOW?! Curious minds need to know! 😆😅
@@ThePomskysPalace She probably has a bathroom in her house. At least, I would hope so.
I'm really liking the judge. She is so even-tempered considering what she is being put through. Absolute champ.
She's good, but I wish we had judge Borowski instead. He would not tolerate Elaine's BS and trial would be over in a week.
she's very neutral. I like her a lot too.
She's a former Marine. She knows how to handle pressure and aggravation and not let it slip. She's amazing.
insane. obsessed. get a life.
Yes, especially considering Elaine's constant questioning of her decisions and inability to ask a question without leading witnesses. I've even noticed myself start to say 'What, if anything...' during ordinary conversations because i've heard it so much during this trial. 😂
So, he is a “monster” when not sober. But all these witnesses drank and did drugs with him and they never saw him being violent or physically attack anyone? 🤯
Interesting isn’t it…
I’m glad you commented this. I hadn’t quite considered that all in full and all put together just like that. Gosh I feel so helpless knowing all that I feel I now know.
It has clearly been proven through testimony that not all people involved drank and used variety of drugs with regularity as Mr Depp did.
It has been more than established that JD cyclical trying to be sober and then using again is more weighted as far as time that non-sober times dwarfs sober time! JD gets so intoxicated to point of black ours so how can he under penalty of perjury for lying….testify he never was physical abusive or sexually abusive. He has no recall….how can he state one way or another that he he never PA/SA Amber?
The other thing pointing to his getting out of control and sending Amber graveling texts…saying he realises he went way to far and he can’t believe he went there.>if she could forgive him he would never do it again. That is a confession.
They also said he was never sober, lol, so that means he was constantly a monster
DAMMMMMM!!! THIS^^^
Exactly what I said!! He's being a monster Whitney...I'll go talk to him and see if I can calm him down....hey coke? Sure!!!!
Why the hate for Dennison? He triggers experts into self destructing, which is amazing!
Which one is that?
@@Padraigp Johnny's attorney on this clip, talks like Colonel Sanders. Emily gives him grief in earlier clips, but I loved when he showed up because it triggered some awesome breakdowns.
@@alexkaen1701 ah is that the guy she keeps calling baby rottenborn? He sounds quite like rottenborn if yhe took a chill pill and didn't smell blood. Lol!
@@Padraigp Nope, it's the one also interviewing Dr. Curry for her testimony and Dr. Hughes on Cross. He's Depp's side's attorney for questioning the experts
@@deskotjes6536 ah oksome of the less known people i cant tell apart. I can tell most of tjem but two of the guys sound so similar. Thanks.
I love this judge, she ordered both teams to not make public statements. She's an excellent judge, and deserves sainthood for her patience. She has not lost her temper even ONCE. She has not raised her voice. A real role model
I agree. I am consistently impressed with how even keeled, calm and patient she is. There could not have been a better judge for this particular trial, IMO.
@@ChardeeMacdennis339 agree!! She is the perfect judge for this matter. I would have thrown things by now.
Her tone is so consistent. She impresses me.
@@VirginiaGeorge Indeed!! She is so level I love it. And she doesn't respond to any brown nosing.
I love the judge she’s so adorable ☺️
Wow. That cross examination on the social media hashtags was masterful. Way to go Heard attorneys for ensuring the sequestered jury is fully aware of how much we support Johnny.
They aren't sequestered. But they are told not to research the case.
I feel like they doctor did amazing and heavily favored Johnny side and he was honest. When Ambers lawyer tried to take the words devil and run with it he reeled them back in and didn't allow them to spin it. He was protective over Johnny and over and over he refused to let Ambers lawyers run away with Johnny's assessment of himself. For me his testimony worked against Amber and very much favored Johnny...
I honestly hope there's a recovering addict/alcoholic on that jury. It's nice to have someone who understands personally.
Statistics say at least someone on the jury has close personal knowledge of addiction…
My absolute favorite thing now--
"Can we agree justice in general is a good thing?"
__"Big fan of justice."
"Me too. No further questions."
🎤💧👏👏👏👏👏😄💀
That was pretty good
It was the best!
I must have rewatched that snippet 20 times no joke I CANNOT get enough 🏆
@@grilledsleaze Same!
@@kristincusick1342 Camille is still 🔥 tho 🤌🙂
Amber: "I'll never forget it..." 30 seconds later: "I can't exactly remember what happened..."
I'll never forget ... How many times she said that.
😂 ahaha right?
Just finished watching Johnny's psychiatrist's depo and sobbed like a baby through the whole thing. That was so heart wrenching for me to see and hear. I have always seen that Johnny seemed to be a very private person and an introvert and for him to go to these lengths and lay his most private thoughts, feelings, struggles and actions bare before the world in order to clear his name and set the record straight may just be one of the bravest acts I have ever borne witness to. I know I could not be that brave. To me it just confirms the veracity everything he has said in his testimony and also about what he wanted to accomplish with this trial. To have the opportunity to set the record straight and get his side out there for his children's sake and to clear his name. We all have demons that we struggle with. We are human. In my humble opinion he is an incredibly brave human and I really hope he can move on to a much healthier and happier place after this is all over with and find true love, joy and peace. I hope when this is over he reaches out to this doctor again. He seems like a very caring person who had Johnny's best interests in mind.
I was shocked with how many people were being very negative about the doctors testimony. He probably had a release signed, like Emily said this was strategic and listening to his testimony you see he is very cautious in his answers because he is still guarding depps privacy. He's a good doctor.
30 years ago, and Ellen Barkin is testifying? People can change. I’d shudder to think what my college boyfriends would say about me.🙄😬
omg I hadn't even thought about that....if I ever had to bring ex boyfriends in from my late teens early 20s to testify in a trial for me I'd just walk into the prison. Let's just save everyone the time and money. 😱🔒
I was a psycho ex-boyfriend just 8 years ago at 20 years old 😂 kinda ridiculous that she even decided to be in Amber's case... must be salty still lmao
Super salty!! Her whole demeanor was an old woman scorn by a super hot dude back in the day.
She was super bitter! What a petty woman, she just can't move on.
I have super second hand embarrassment for her. How sad to be 60 years old and testifying about nonsense that happened 30 years ago. A lesson to all of us about what we don’t want to become.
As a psychotherapist myself, I can attest to the fact that we do NOT like to testify in court and my take was that the Dr was reticent about sharing and only divulged the bare minimum….
I’m a therapist as well and I agree. We go through detailed training about documentation, learning to only chart the minimum amount of information needed in the unlikely event we would ever be subpoenaed
I thought he did, as well.
Exactly .And some people went to write negative comments on his page .🤦🏻♀️
There is a therapist on RUclips called Psychology in Seattle that talked about this. He is a couple counsellor and individual counsellor and he say sometimes his clients will try to get him to come into court and he warns them that he will be minimally responsive and probably not very helpful.
Thanks for sharing this information Debra. To be honest I think that may have put people off going to therapy incase they find themselves in a horrible situation in life. 😣
Ellen barkin taking part in this case has helped me get over my ex more than therapy ever could.
She isolated him from his friends and family and surrounded him with her "support " team.... smells like, sounds like, looks like ... a narcissist, it probably is.
Also step 1 in a DV situation is isolation and control.
That's what I said when they started saying that was what he was doing. And she lost weight and was not herself...she was probably using. Or...she lost all her friends...on her own.
The only thing Ambers team proved Johnny abused… were substances.
Johnny: the only person I abused is myself.
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Yup
For real. Well and cabinets
Facts💗
Lmao remember when Amber's defense was obsessed with "not wasting the court's time"?
Probably bc they new they needed all the time to slog through these depositions. Can’t get through these if they spend time on JD’s live witnesses.
Good old times...
haha great comment so true
😂 😂 😂
Good old times …
Emily: "They were married for 15 months, they've been getting divorced for 175 years" ROFL I just found your channel a few days ago and immediately subscrived. Loving your content Emily. You are so hilarious!
You should check out all the lawtube reactors. They're all great and funny.
Yes . This had me rolling too 😂I thought I was the only one who felt this way 😝
I snorted water when I heard it...
Great timing, I was drinking and see dropped that comment 🤣🤣🤣
😂 what is the timestamp for this one?
I just want to give JD the biggest hug. The psychiatrist testimony is so heartbreaking.
I dont understand how AH team thinks pointing out Johnny being jealous and thinking she was cheating, is in any way helping them. She actually was cheating, its been shown. Its just further showing the crap he had to put up
Exactly! He was jealous because she was cheating
30-50 different times according to HER friend.
@@TheCrimson7272 😲😲 which friend? And where did they say?
@@nicole45590 A former roommate who testified by video deposition yesterday.
@@susiem.2068 oh wow. Thank you! I haven’t watched it all yet, will have to watch.
I don’t want to be mean but those with BPD often cheat a lot
I'm nosey AF so looked up Judge A. Ex-marine corps & years in courts possibly explains her calmness in this whole thing?
Also, she set up a programme addressing veterans with mental health issues (including PTSD) ending up struggling after leaving service with addiction and ending up in courts. Would LOVE to know what she's been thinking through some of ghe testimony about PTSD etc.
That is fascinating.
And good for her!
Thanks for sharing. I really enjoy Judge PA. So patient! Not drunk with power like some.
Omg thank you for sharing this! I actually really appreciate her as a judge for this trial and was curious about her background! Now, I'm also curious about her thoughts with regards to the PTSD testimony and evaluations etc
oh wow!! thats fascinating!!! no wonder shes a boss.
Thank you so much for posting this info. She’s wonderfully patient isn’t she? I had questions at first but the longer this goes on the more I appreciate and respect this judge.
The talent Agent literally says “no one wants to hire someone with those kinds of accusations against them”. Which is the exact same point the Rottenborn was “struggling” to understand during Depp’s cross examination. So, it’s a justifiable fact for Heard’s side, but not Depp’s?
hearing the harassment of the Doctor and how people probably just dont understand he was legally required to be there is why im so glad youre providing commentary on this thankyou!
I'm starting to believe that AH team also want justice for Johnny Depp
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People who go and harass ANYONE (including even Amber and Johnny) that had anything to do with this case should be ashamed of themselves! If you do that you are actively and willingly causing harm to others. Thank you Emily for being a voice of reason and pointing this out.
We don't always agree with out comes. Perhaps we are fully convinced people testify falsely. Intimidating judges or jury members or witnesses brings down the process, which is far better with what law and order provides. Don't intimidate people who have this burden. It's never easy to judge your fellows. Those who do so easily ought really fear karma.
I agree. People need to leave his daughter and Amber alone. If she does have BPD in fact (if!!), that increases her risk for suicide. No one needs to die because of a bad marriage. I am really starting to wish this case never happened. It's brought out the worst in many people
It's arguably abuse.
The “They were married for two months. They’ve been getting divorced 175 years.” Comment had me GONE 🤣🤣🤣
That’s not what she said, they weren’t married for 2 months.
That's not an exaggeration. Frankly, the reason her friend was crying was not out of love or affection for Amber. She's well aware that she went too far to help Amber. She also knows that once Amber gets what she wants out of a person she throws them under the bus and dismisses them immediately. And Amber knows that her friend will keep her mouth shut because her friend was accused of perjury along with Amber.
She was crying over the privileges and the easy life she lost. She thought they could squeeze a big chunk out of JD's fortune and she realises that she made a mistake and is not going to have anything, zero, zilch. She partnered the wrong person, probably because AH and she are alike.
Who cares lol there not going to throw them I. Jail Amber lied on stand 99 percent of the time nothing happen
People just don't understand how abuse leads to depression which leads to a life of self destruction
Which leads to a vicious cycle of needing to anaesthetise oneself, to ‘drop out’, by using legal or illegal drugs.
I agree and if she really is BPD? I dated a woman a couple years ago whom has never been diagnosed but she has a lot of traits of borderline i discovered. Luckily it waa mostly a long distance relationship, complicated but not nearly that volitile and i can tell you, even though much of our communication was via internet, the way it affects you is insane. I had planned to move 2 states away just to be with her and luckily it didnt work out because I demanded she get some professional help when i started connecting the dots but she percieved that as me rejecting her and abandoning her. The kind of push/pull that they can do alone is so painful and mine abuse was minor compared to his. Its been a year and my feelings for her are still very confusing but if she would have agreed to get the help she needed, i would have been there to support her. She was a my first love in high school. The trauma bonding is just so powerful, i still love her and my heart still aches so I can only imagine how hard this must be for him. I completely understand why he can't look at her. It would be like looking at someone you loved so much but knowing that they are not really capable of loving you full time and that they will only hurt you more while throwing daggers at your ❤ . Have you noticed the way she looks at him, that is not by accident, she knows damn well he still loves her even after all the shit shes done😪
I don’t think that’s an excuse to act like this. We all have been through so many things but we aren’t out here making up crazy stories. She’s a narcissist who probably has BPD
@@MeshyKitty - The reference was for JD.
That’s what I was thinking. Like, maybe his drug and alcohol use got worse because he was self medicating since he was in a terribly toxic relationship?
Mark my words when they make this a movie ... it'll be called "Justice for Johnny Depp".
Yes!!!
I'd love to have Dr Blaustein as my doctor. He seemed quite empathetic, and also seemed to hate having to spill JD's private struggles.
After hearing this deposition from her marriage lawyer my take is that she purposely avoided the pre nup thinking she would get more from a post nup and after splitting she thought she could ruin him as revenge…
Wow Dr. Blaustein is pretty compassionate. He sounds like he really cares for his patients.
I think you amped up the actuality. I would say he presented pretty matter of fact and didn't embellish or go beyond the notes. Very professional.
I felt for Dr. Blaustein. I saw a really compassionate man in conflict.
Me too! It must truly difficulty for clinician to feel like they are breaking the trust and confidentiality of patient they cared for!
Did any of these people consider the fact that Amber gets so much hate because people have realized she’s unlikeable and a liar? Not because of a “smear campaign.” Like, maybe she deserves it? Just saying lol
The only one who thinks there is a smear campaign against Amber, is Amber herself. Because she doesn't take responsibility for her own actions. At least that's what I think.
THANKYOU!!
That psychologist was kind and caring and no clue why anyone would do that to him!
I don’t think it’s Johnny’s fault that AH’s carrier is going downhill,she decided to make this public instead of doing it privately like Johnny asked her in one of the audios. You reap what you sow.
She just has that kind of personality that is going to hurt as many people as possible. One can't have any career equity a personality like hers. She's 36, so it's taken her 18 years, since she's become and adult, to back stab sand let it be known she can't be trusted.
Sociopaths betray to many people you actually make it in the real world.
When folks mention how it shouldn’t have been televised to try to save Amber Heard from the backlash, I get so frustrated! Like, why should anyone save her at this point? She accused him of egregious crimes publicly, and he needed to clear his name publicly! I’m happy he’s saved his rep! He absolutely tried to keep the whole thing private! Even after all the abuse during the marriage!
Karma!!
Yep, ironically, if this all stayed private, Amber’s career would have survived and probably thrived, she is a bad actress that had a role in Aquaman!
But she is so clueless and oblivious, her blind rage and a desire for revenge for Johny for leaving her brought her to this. That’s why her personality is called a disorder, she herself ruined her life, she couldn’t help herself, it’s sad.
I have a feeling her career life was going to be short anyway. Her looks are going, she can't act worth a damn, and my bet is she's a nightmare to work with. If anything, making herself a victim was probably a misguided attempt to give herself a bit more longevity in Hollywood.
Johnny’s lawyer’s final words when crossing Ron Schnell were “Me too”. *chef’s kiss*
Oooh!!! Good catch!!!
“They’ve been married for 15 months. They’ve been getting divorced for 175 years. “ 🤣🤣🤣
I love how AH’s agent kept referring to Aquaman as the “most successful movie released EVER”. She clearly has never heard of this little movie called Gone With the Wind…
Or even Avengers End Game or Spider-Man Far From Home. Which are more recent examples and also direct competition with the DC movie universe.
Or James Cameron's Avatar
I'm a severe abuse survivor, most occurred back in the 60s-70s. I see the childhood damage that both AH and JD have that put them in the position of having a totally toxic relationship. I recognize the signs that JD displays that he was the abuse victim in the relationship. When you carry those scars yourself, you can often see them easily in others.
What is often asked by the regular public, is how does an abuse victim tolerate the blatant abuse and why do they not leave an abusive situation. The answer is "Training". A childhood abuse victim is raised where abuse had been raised where the abuse is the norm. People who were not abused don't realize that the childhood survivor doesn't know any different. Ironically such a situation often feels normal. When getting therapy I would be discussing my past and was frequently told by my therapist "You know that's abuse, don't you?" I would be clueless. How was I to know other children weren't punished with a cat 'o nine? How was I to know being sent to a room on only water with no food for four days wasn't normal for other 6 years olds?
The first rule in most childhood abuse "Don't talk, keep silent. For SA victims usually includes severe life threatening threats.
It's sad, but raised with the severe abuse JD was raised with, JD had no defenses when Amber displayed the same abuse his mother did when he was a child. The behavior was familiar. His coping techniques and behaviors (location/ physical withdrawal, increased drug and alcohol use to numb emotional pain) would instinctively kick in.
In the beginning, AH had focused on being his ideal, AH had taken that time to know the mental and emotional needs and weaknesses. AH had then patterned the abuse for maximum effect. The Borderline behavior pattern of "I love you/I hate you/don't leave me" behavior shown by the recordings for example when he temporarily leaves to get space AH shell die if he leaves (even if temporary for space). This behavior also preyed on JD's trauma from childhood with his mom. On of his biggest fears was that AH would actually suicide. He also didn't want to give up on the relationship or leave as his dad did. JD's mother had been suicidal when his dad left when JD was a kid.
Abuse victims are often sought out by preditory people seeking to abuse. Abuse victims are already well trained, and often will tolerate behaviors unknowingly that non-abuse survivors won't. Abuse survivors often have poor or nonexistent boundaries. Their childhood abuse never allowed development of functional boundaries, so the abuser doesn't have to overcome boundaries with these victims.
The abuse survivor usually already has a significantly damaged self-image and self-esteem, and with the childhood training, the abuser usually has little or no work in order to initiate and increase control of the victim. Usually, the low self-esteem, poor self-image, and usual history of the problematic relationships make the victim very susceptible to the abusers "love bombing". This is the setting up an a quick, extremely intense relationship that appears to the victim to be everything they always wanted and had been terrified they would never have. This creates in the victim almost an addiction for the " love bombing". So, when the abuser starts the controlling behavior affection and reinfotrcement is used as a reward for good behavior, and removal of it becomes a devastating mental torture if the victim doesn't comply with the demands of the abuser. This sets up a cycle of the victim always the one to appease the abuser to keep the peace, and get their love bomb fix.
The greatest gifts JD has given the world by his cutting his soul to have it bleed in public, have several points: 1) males can and are abused and few acknowledge or even recognize it. 2) Having success, prosperity and fame do not automatically make life perfect, solve issues or assure happiness. It doesn't prevent abuse. 3) In DV, Despite the potential size and strength differences, a smaller and physically weaker person can be an incredible abuser to a larger, stronger victim with the right mental and emotional abuse. 4) By having this case televised, JD put on display the schemes, behaviors, actions, and how far some will go to perpetuate this type of abuse. People watching the case can learn from his errors, and hopefully recognize they need to get help. JD showed the world how to recognize such toxic people, and hopefully to know it's a lost cause. The victim hopefully will cut their losses, and run like hell. 5) Showing the world how to recognize toxic people and help family and friends if the behavior is recognized. 6) Abuse victims *should* be heard, but also there should be critical thinking and there should be evidence. Through this case, it was driven home how little impartial evidence AH actually had. If you are a victim; be sure to take photos, go to ER, see doctors, write notes, get witnesses and get professional help to get free.
The red flag warning signs of an abuser feel like love. On such a subconscious level.
Things you would have no problem telling a friend to run don't walk if they described a new love of their doing.
It's insidious. A slow boil.
I think it's also a slow boil for the abuser too. Often they don't start out looking for a punching bag. Abuse and control is their coping mechanism and as they fall in with someone who keeps co-signing their bad behavior, they don't hold themselves to a higher standard of coping mechanisms. I am not victim blaming. I am observing how toxic relationships don't feel toxic at first to the people in them.
@@theConquerersMama yes the beginning is the "love bomb" anything that seems "too good to be true" usually is.
I will never forget this post. "Training". 🙏🙏🙏🙏😓
Thank you for such a thoughtful post. As a survivor myself, you enlightened me about some of my own experiences. Thank you for sharing and for your courage.
I love this post. I'm SO sick of the articles out there pearl clutching about how terrible JD and this trial is for abuse victims. Those headlines can only have come from people who've never experienced abuse. Or they're simply married to the flawed mantra of "believe all women", which has probably done more to hurt than help survivors. "Belief" implies accepting all claims as fact, without question. A better slogan for the movement would have been "take all abuse claimants _seriously_ while evaluating the totality of the situation", but that's not a good hashtag.
What _Amber_ did is terrible for survivors. The trial is rectifying it in all the ways you said. Johnny probably believed he really was the bad guy by the end, surrounded by people who had a shared interest in gaslighting him. While the lifestyle and monetary stakes involved here are unusual, this is textbook abuser stuff. When you're in it, it can be hard to really believe that such a thing could be happening (You MUST be the crazy one, everyone else says so). For me, seeing it all laid out in this trial has been a catharsis and a validation in so many ways.
Peace, happiness and healing to you 💜💗
Wow! It was really kind of Amber to hire her own lawyers for her team to represent Johnny Depp also.
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Love this, so true!
@@elainejohnson8677 She even brought witness to back him up! That’s really remarkable!
Depp isn't the only one who is generous 🥹🥸
🦴🦴🦴😂 they threw him a bone.
“Aqua man was the most successful movie of all time ever.”
And there goes her credibility.
The jury was full of 20somethings.
I PROMISE a few laughed at hearing that.
That movie was a wreck. All of DC is.
Jason Momoa couldn’t save it and to call it “the biggest of all time ever” is just obnoxious.
I tried to watch that movie after the Amber Heard trial started. I watched the trial as it was going to. Even though I was on Johnny's side I kept an open mind about the movie. I thought it was absolutely awful.
I think O.J. Simpson is a double murderer but I still love his role in the Naked Gun movies.
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I give Johnny alot of credit for having the courage to go through with this, knowing how painful and embarrassing it would be. Hopefully this will help other victims of dv fight for themselves, especially men. To all DC victims: the shame and embarrassment belongs to the abuser, not the victim.
Just so you know I work in a SoCal mental health facility and we have already had about a dozen men admit for trauma due to DV by their either female or male spouses and a few I spoke to directly said JD gave them the push and courage they needed, I really want to get this info to Johnny and let him know the impact. I contacted his attorney and told Adam hopefully he gets that message to JD. Thought you would like to know 🙏🏼💜
She just confirmed the point that Hollywood doesn’t want to deal with anyone with allegations of DV and proved why Johnny didn’t get the last two Disney movies
Exactly. Why did it affect her career but not his....and to compare her to Jason Mamoa..and Chris Pine...or any of the actors she mentioned. That's ridiculous. But yesterday was a real shit show. The whole thing. Did yall hear about the woman in court yelling Johnny I love you..what would you do if this was your baby and held up her baby...yesterday was epic lol
@@donnaclark307 hahah. I agree yesterday was epic ! Her lawyers just need to call it a day. Their witnesses in my opinion helped him more than her ! The hand dr was interesting talking about the nail bed being intact and looking at picture made me realize how was he able to hold her and use a bottle on her without destroying the nail bed ????🤔🤔🤔🤔
Depp is pirates.. without him there is no pirates. Disney dropped him like hot potatoes because of AH claims, & after all the years of a bond he obviously felt betrayed. We all would. Which is why he said he won’t go back.. coz they didn’t believe who he was
The more this goes on, the more sympathy I have for JD. I was not a JD fan ever, but it's sad to see how AH literally ruined his life. Lying about DV is one thing, but lying about SV is a whole other level of low. She basically said he committed a felony multiple times and has zero proof. She deserves all the negative hashtags. She should count herself lucky he cant press criminal charges at this point!
It's even sadder that he had to bring out all the Demons (metaphorically, figuratively, and the literally demons) of the last 10 years into the public domain just so he could bring some peace to his life.
@shiddity......That statement bothers me. Lying about domestic violence can ruin people's lives just as easily as sexual assault.
@@BabyKangaroo279 true... Even further than that since the very first witness, his sister, shared about their abusive childhood and even the names their mother would use... How terrible to have your privacy ripped away, or have to hand it over to get justice.
Facts.
@@stevep2380 I wonder if having it all exposed will help him let go of some addictions.
In my country, the only story that is making to the news is Amber's side... The first thing that I saw on the news was the video of johnny hitting the cabinets, and the headline was "Look how he lose his temper" or something like that...
I'm really glad that I found you, It's being eye opening to see someone with legal knowledge explain the case without bias.
I get the feeling that Elaine is a senior partner and wanted to litigate ot because it's high profile. Depp's firm is better with using the right lawyer at the right time, no matter seniority.
They weren't even married for 2 years. On what planet does she think she would half of everything.
She rattled off a number with full confidence, which means she looked into it. Which means it IS about the money.
In CA she would get half of all property attained after the marriage until the separation. So any mortgages paid on his many holdings, etc. I wonder what the number would have been and how it compares to 7 million
@@xino_z They said he earned 65 million that year. That's all I heard about.
He should have taken out rent and utilities and vacations and liquor and drugs for her family and friends.
She had to study all of his favorite things to lure him in, held heavy books pretending to read them.
All the framing him, so many lies. She worked hard! 😂
@@mel-tooqueertokaren wish she had worked harder on self-improvement then life would’ve worked out better for everyone involved. As she appears now she is a walking wmd and dangerous to all in her orbit; just look at Elon. Even mega wealth can’t protect from her.
At this point, it feels like Amber's side is helping Johnny more than his side. Like they don't even need to do anything
My thoughts
Lessons learned: Innocent until proven guilty went out the window in 2016. JD was guilty the second AH walked out of the courthouse with the TRO.
AH's facial "injuries", which no one believes are from being hit by jd, were usually on the right side in roughly the same spot, a right hander like JD would normally strike the left side. Nurses notes mentioned she's on meds for cystic acne, which requires using sunscreen at all times, also per her testimony. A cyst would explain some of the minimal redness/swelling that appears/disappears at will.
Last, thanks to Emily for giving us all a safe space to chat, I was so, so tired of yelling at my screen!
I can’t believe I had to listen to this “super lawyer’s” entire CV, so he could tell me that Amber didn’t want to get sued.
I doubt she told Mr Superlawyer she lied about abuse in the first place.
I had to transcribe this part at 1:34:35:
Attorney: At what point in time did your relationship with Mr. Depp taken a romantic turn?
EB: After I had moved to Hollywood and ah he, you know, switched the buttons.
Attorney: recall what year you moved to Hollywood?
Emily: (Tilts head) He switched what buttons?
EB: Yes, ummmmmm, 1994.
Emily: He switched the buttons?!?
Attorney: You said switched the buttons. Can you tell me what you mean by that?
EB: Ummm, the friendship went from purely platonic friendship, ummmmm, to a romantic one.
Emily: Oh, he found the button!
Me: I'm dead.
Time of death: right now 😅☠️
😂🤣😂🤣
Crossing my fingers at least one juror can explain "correlation is not causation" to the rest.
Here's hoping. I've realized a lot of ppl do not have a grasp on stats though
I think since most are in their 20s they also might be familiar with how hashtags work.
you just need one person who noticed it to make a point. You don't even stats knowledge. Just to have once read the famous : "all people who breathe die, so breathing is deadly"
Johnny was famous without Amber but Amber wasn’t famous without Johnny I think she counted on that he is a private person and wouldn’t take her to court she was so wrong
and she used every part of him to hang on to her 15 min
Let me tell you where Amber's team used their time:
"Is this your signature?" x 10 appx. 20 mins
"Did I read this article right?" X 20 appx. 30 mins
"Do you know if Amber used concealer?" x 100 appx. 30 mins
"Do you know if Amber used foundation?" x 100 appx. 30 mins
"Do you know if Amber used Amica cream?" X 30 appx. 35 mins
"What if any?" X 1000000
...appx. 35 hrs
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Repeating the same questions over and over and over again, just wasting valuable time.
I liked when Wagner lawyers kept telling them basically you keep asking the same questions over and over.
Also asking dr Curry about muffins.
@@Pysslis lol I forgot that one! And dinner and drinks. Solid 2 hrs in their time block taken 😂
As a medical professional, I sympathized with the physician and Johnny. It was very painful to watch. The physician did not want to testify and the embarrassment Johnny must have been feeling is immeasurable. As stated over and over about Johnny's addictions, patients with mental illness or abused as children often self-medicate to dull the emotional pain one suffers whether it's excess caffeine, cigarettes, or opioids.
Also as video and audio of JD show, they can also break glass around someone they're angry with and hurl verbal abuse at them. One could also say that AH was abused by her father and that accounts for her histrionic behaviour and violence. What does that alter? Each has abused the other. I'm getting tired of watching JD's cool-guy performnace in court as if butter wouldn't melt in his mouth. He's a substance abuser and he abused his marriage partner. The same can be said about AH. Throw the whole case out of court.
It is horrifying to think that people went on his professional page to diss him. Awful, awful, awful.
I felt icky listening to his private stuff with the shrink
Yes even adults who have trauma.. trauma can lead to many dark things or harmful even to yourself things
@@barryispuzzled You sound like someone who looks down on people with addictions.
She said in her testimony that he was pushing marriage, not her, but the therapists testimony was that he didn’t want to get married
@@lv-lp8bd I've listened to all that I know of. What happens in the tape you're referring to?
When cases like this happens doctors and expert witness reviews online should be blocked from ratings and reviews for a few months.
That Ron Snell witness really backfired on AH team like JD team should thank them for bringing him lol
I happened to come across The Body Language Guy. He was observing Ambers sisters testimony. Yesterday we noticed that her whole demeanor changed when JD attorney questioned her. He was saying it’s because her whole testimony was rehearsed with AH team. When it came to JD attorney she had to think a lot more carefully about her answers. Which is why it gave us the appearance of being more relaxed.
Ehh, 'body language' is about as reliable as 'voodoo' and 'astrology'.
@@lazyman7505 mmm maybe but you can visibly tell a difference in her demeanor. It was being brought up a lot live
insane. obsessed. get a life.
@@urbanbatfitters go be best friends with amber and tell us how abusive she was towards you after and let's see if you still take her side.
@@lazyman7505 Now that statement is bs. We use body language every day (even thought to cia agents). When someone shrugs their shoulders they're unsure about what they're saying or what's going on. When someone crosses their arms they're defensive. You can tell someone is aggressive when they have their hands closed in a fist. You don't need to be an expert to know body language is a very real thing. Take body language videos with a grain of salt when it comes to these cases, but body language itself is valid.
So it's Depp's fault that people are tweeting that they don't like Amber
No. It’s Amber’s fault.
Yes, because his lawyer orchestrated a smear campaign, not a PR firm, but his lawyer.
@@splendidpursuits8153 I have seen more Articles about Depp before this case, then Amber had. All they did was show the world that there was more to this than Amber wanted the world to know. But still Depp is not FORCING anyone, they are making up their own mind's and then supporting him in their own comments, with their own mind's. Amber tried to act like it was all him and only him and she was a angel. I made up my own mind who I support and I did listen to Amber and everything she had to say and then I seen the picture in People and knew then that there was something wrong. But still I listened to both sides and came up with my own decision and being a DV survivor myself, the story and pictures and actions didn't add up and I think her and her friends have exaggerate and turned the story to something they could benefit from.
"if they're chosen at random in this universe, yes." Ron Schnell bringing multiverse theory into the courtroom! I'm here for it!
During the Ellen Barkin depo, when you said he found the button “with both hands & a map?” I literally almost wet myself laughing 😂
In trying to show she was damaged she is showing how Johnny was. With every witness I think it showed how Johnny has been hurt. Serious backfire I think.
I agree with you 100%
The witnesses have beautifully reinforced that Amber is the single source of info...
insane. obsessed. get a life.
The fact that there’s no documentation on injuries from SV with a broken bottle tell me that it never happened. No way could AH could have gone without medical help. So, based on that, to me, anything and everything that comes out of AH’s mouth is unreliable & not believable. What a heinous terrible crime she’s committed.
Agreed. That was the exact moment I knew she was lying. I work on human rights abuses in conflict. I’ve listened to women who have been SA’d like that. The way they discuss the assault, the pain, the immediate need to seek medical attention even when war is happening around them- is so different from AHs shambolic, late, unreliable testimony. How she could lie about something so serious is beyond me.
Did u guys here the audio whole audio of Australia its on incredible average Chanel , no one talks about her having injury"s and all they want is to get her to go home in the audio all she cares about is seeing JD and Cry's he needs me but yet you claim to be held hostage and if he did that too u why would u stay and she recorded it she gets the device at the end jerry judge says she always listening that audio for me did it she not telling the truth
yeah you’re going to tell me you’re sure you had broken glass in your pusswatcha and it was bleeding abs you didn’t feel you needed to go see a doctor????
for me it was the audio that was leaked of her taunting him and calling him a baby and saying you always walk away. its seems odd that a victim would taunt their abuser but also that he was walking away? Abusers don't walk away. the rest of the audio that came out during this trial was telling too.
She said that she hoped it wasn't the broken bottle. She never said he used a broken bottle. I seriously hope the jury have solid listening skills.
I play a game with myself during these endless depositions: Guess the objection! I am so glad you nursemaid us through this ordeal. You have a big heart and brain and a funky look! Rock on!
AH seems like she cannot be alone. The recording they played of her saying ‘You’re killing me’ when JD was trying to get her out of the car, she was having a total meltdown. All the videos we see of her she is surrounded by friends. JD probably let her friends move into the penthouses because she couldn’t be alone. I need to rewatch Dr. Currie’s testimony, she said AH had to be the center of attention but I want to she if she mentioned AH not being able to be alone. I think there is something to that.
Yes there is something to that, Dr.Curry said she has borderline personality disorder. People with that disorder have a huge fear being abandoned
I remember she mentioned her having abandonment issues
it's something i've kept in mind as well, not shaming anyone for that, but it's certainly an interesting thing to note. especially pertaining to this case
Definitely something to that effect. The consequence of all her neediness completely exhausted all of her friendships; hence the lost relationships with Rocky, her make-up artist, and others.
Look at the elevator video where Amber is being helped by her entourage- feeding her, getting her into the elevator, holding her up, like she’s a little princess 👑 not a grown-ass adult
I have lost all objectivity. I began this on AHs team. I was a believer in believe all women and I have learned a real lesson. It's been more than proven she lied and with the lies she's told I just can't care about all these witnesses. And of course we now know Whitney was full of shit. Unfortunately the jury doesn't know what we know. I am ranting now but it's all just to be honest.. it's done for me.
There's a chance JD's team will call Jennifer Howell for rebuttal, so the jury may still find out Whitney lied. I'm really hoping that's the case because I feel like it would be a nail in the coffin, especially with all the inconsistencies with the testimony from AH's side.
Believe all men bruh
Thanks for this. This is whats on my mind at the beginning of this trial. Its all lies one after another. I feel sad for her really, I hope she gets help or itll be worse!
Hey props to you for being willing to update your opinion with new information! That's a hard thing to do, and an even harder thing to admit to, especially with highly public/ popular stuff like this, especially when it's DV/SV related
Kudos for that! I have always found believe all women insulting as a woman and one who experienced DV no less; it suggests that women are something other than human, incapable of deceit which is preposterous imo
She was the beginning of his end. Had he not spoken up his career would be even worse. I'm buying my hubby SAUVAGE to support the company who stood by him through all this.
I really read this as SAUSAGE the first time 🤦🏻♀️😅
If that company has any sense they’ll be running the JD Sauvage advert on repeat, their sales would triple!!
It’s sold out everywhere! I bought it in Madrid at duty free
Yes I just bought Sauvage for hubby, holy peony and Ms Dior. I am now a loyal Dior customer, because they did not shun Johnny. Justice and healing for Johnny🙏♥️🙏♥️
@@DistressedDamsel79 me too lol
Ben Chew is awesome. He asked Amber's agent, "What evidence do you have that this negatively affected Amber's career?" She fell apart with that question and it completely discredited her in my opinion. She had no real physical proof, it was all hearsay. All major, major BS at the end of the day.
No doctor in this field of psychiatry likes to talk about his clients' moods and inner struggles; these doctors know how to contextualize, interpret and understand what is said to them in consultation, taking into account the person in front of them. I think the doctor thought his words very well and tried to contextualize and explain what his notes meant!
That JD's dr testimony broke my heart for the him and for JD. I had to step away. If I were a juror I would feel heart broken for JD.
Based on interviews w people from years ago Johnny always did drugs and drank. So how is it he NEVER ACCUSED OF ANYTHING UNTIL HE MEETS HER
Maybe his disease got worse and he marriaged a 22 year old in his mid 40s... she was emotional and trigger him. Easy as pie to understand. Some people tolerate bad behavior... others challenge that behavior and ultimately get abused for challenging.
Gold digger was after him
Because he never encountered anyone with borderline personality disorder.
People can perform fine whilst using, it’s not great for them in the long run but his cognition seems ok, all the users I’ve come across in health work and generally observed have actually been sweet, lost people.
I love that you feel uncomfortable and squishy about your being followed by so many! Never change! You are my spirit animal.
I’m an RN and I read the MD notes pertaining to this incident. Her chief complaint was “headache”….MD’s never assess ANY serious medical condition over the phone, nor will they prescribe any medications over the phone unless the patient has already been seen in person for the new condition/complaint. Amber’s report of “concussion” was pitiful…In the chart she appeared to be looking for a head CT or MRI. That would never happen at the whim of a patient and other interventions would need to be present and there would be certain symptoms present to indicate the need for advanced imaging. She had no reports of specific symptomolgy, and even lied about the cause of her supposed-head injury. We know when patients are lying because there are specific things to look for in nearly any type of wound or trauma. It is rare that a patient knows how to make up these symptoms unless they’re medically trained. The one thing that bothered me was that Amber made the clinical notes look unreliable when she pointed out the error in the notes that called her a “well-nourished male” instead of a female. This was a clinical note that should’ve been more carefully reviewed and/or corrected by the MD before admitting it into evidence. That error negates a lot of the validity of the entire clinical note and this is why mistakes and errors are a big no-no in medicine.
I love you for the "Don't send send hate mail to Dr A". You're a ray of rational thinking in a circus-oriented world. ❤️
Amber is so upset that Jonny stood up for himself with this lawsuit. She expected him to take the higher road, which he repeatedly did during her abusive rampages while they were together.
As someone who works in IT, the resume Ron Schnell stated is legendary.
I couldn't contain my nerdy awe at what he had accomplished. Then was immediately pissed that Heard's team didn't make better use of his knowledge. I think his testimony is a prime example of garbage in, based on what the lawyers told him the task and questions were.
@@TheEmilyDBaker Yes!! The internet captures SO MUCH data about users and usage. I wonder if he limited the results in a way to not "open the door" to additional data that could look bad for Amber. Thank you for your reply, my day is made and I haven't even had a margarita yet.
“Your honor, I object. All of these witnesses are ruining our case!” A question for Amber and her pep squad of incompetent lawyers: What if anything will you do when you lose and all of your careers go down the shitter when the verdict comes in?!
AH’s team really misfired on their Social Media expert. Not only did they give him terrible information but the jury is filled with 20-30somethings who understand the way sm and hashtags work better than the experts do. Often positive and negative hashtags occur together.
Another phenomenon is the concept of appropriating hashtags when one side takes over and repurposes a hashtag to give it a new meaning.
Bad, bad idea.
Eg. Pretty much all of the people using the support amber heard hashtag are people mocking AH and supporting Depp
Even Johnny's former lawyer and psychiatrist did more damage than good to amber's team. Lots of friendly fire today.
God is working🙏🏻
When "Istandwithamber" was trending and it was all people shitting on her... worse than she did to that bed 🤣😅
So let me get this straight… you hire an incredibly knowledgeable computer expert and have him to run a few APIs (something that any computer literate person can do) and create a few Excel graphs with the data and he can testify in a trial as an expert on statistical social media analysis….
His area of expertise is miles from what he is testifying to, operating system development and AI has nothing to do with this.
I call bullshit.. just someone trading on their past reputation to get paid for doing something that half of a planet can do just as well.
By what metric was aquaman „the most successful movie ever released“ ? … Aquaman to this day grossed about 1.4 billion dollars, spot 24 of the most successful movies… 15+ of those are older than aquaman, so aquaman is not even in the top ten…
Why can people just lie in court 😅
Was it the most successful dc move? Is that was confusing them?
Just checked, aquaman is 24 highest grossing movie, dark knight rises 32. So it is by far the highest grossing dc movie.
@UC8E8AXcH1xE7umfvS0JUKxA justice league isn even top 100.
@@Pysslis but the witness didn’t specify for DC movies, or did she?
The way I heard it she just said it was the biggest most successful movie ever… 2 times, once in the middle and once towards the end of her testimony.
@@dillanwhite maybe she said “their” referring to DC and it wasn’t clear
I wish we could take that clip of you explaining the conditions around the doctors deposition and attach it to the reviews. You did a wonderful job explaining the context around that decision and ahhhh I just wish people would do more informing themselves before letting their emotions take actions for them.
Wasn’t it a done deal when Amber told Camille when Camille was asking her if the article is about Johnny. Amber said not just Johnny and Camille repeated so not just Johnny and then Amber said no not just Johnny. doesn’t that prove the case?
Dr. Blaustrein's testimony was heartbreaking. I'm so sad now. 😕
Watching on replay and I’m DEAD that Elaine straight up asked this woman if they would consider paying him alpacas to do another pirates. I feel like this isn’t real life.
And then Ellen sounds HILARIOUS on 2x speed 😂😂😂
That witness was ridiculous. She knows nothing. It's all above her pay grade. There is no way top executives would tell any of the down belows about such a thing. I doubt it would even be an official conversation. I'm sure there are also no people at whatever studios who would have talked about articals about weinstein at the time. It's just not done that those things are talked about officially. Or overtly. She's a record keeper? I dont even know what she is tbh but nobody is going to record a gossipy conversation about what the tabloids are saying. Right?
I have been highly curious how AH and her team could claim multiple times in court that they had turned in all her evidence and devices,and no one dispute it, no repercussion. Did I misunderstand that she didn’t turn over her phones metadata, even after multiple sanctions?!?
Amber and her friends ONLY people who say he became angry when drunk. We have a zillion people including his 40 year old friend that say he didn’t change when he got drunk. Even Ellen Barkin corrected herself and clarified it was a “toss on table of the bottle.
But Elaine pushed the second time and said so that bottle would’ve hit u, like a scumbag that she is
Runkle is so unintentionally funny in such an endearing way, he’s just ADORBS
He really is
Disney is going to send the least qualified person, heck they will send a janitor if they could in order to not get sued. Why did Elaine think that this testimony would do anything?
so true. what was even the point of that testimony? no but seriously, was there anything interesting said? cause i skipped it.
@@petermakarovic159 Not interesting but funny. They talked about money and alpacas. It’s worth finding a clip on YT.
@@petermakarovic159 the only thing i got from it was that she couldnt tell us why they fired johnny, that that was a decisions from the higher ups. she had no paper contract for pirates six.
@@nonoway5985 true and on another stream you can see Jhonny dying of laughter with the mention of the alpacas 🦙
insane. obsessed. get a life.
I mean, it’s just dumb that they think showing Johnny was an asshole to people sometimes will display him as an abuser. We’ve all irrationally lashed out at a customer service person who we felt fucked us over etc. We all have asshole moments. That doesn’t make us domestic abusers.
It shows that he clearly has a violent streak and anger management issues and is capable of abuse and these things are taken into consideration in a court of law
Nope, never lashed out at a customer service employee because you know why? If you’ve ever been in that job, people like you taking their anger and personal problems out on us just trying to do our jobs for minimum wage is horrendous and ruins your whole week. Don’t lash out at innocent underpaid employees period the end
AH was obviously pushing JD to marry her; and he complied , just to make her happy and hopefully settle her down and stop her violence.
He isn't even the marrying type. The last time he was married was in the early 80s and it's not like he didn't have serious relationships between then and when he married AH.