When Linux proponents talk about software being "free" they mean something far deeper than you don't have to pay for it. They mean you are free to do as you wish with it & when running on your hardware is free of outside masters. Most Linux proponents would not call Chrome or Android free as they both come with tendrils of Google's control sending data back to Google against their users wishes.
@@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070 dont worry about that, it doesnt mean you are stupid, since it took you more than a few clicks (if you used a starter distro) that only means your hardware is mostly overengineered for windows users in mind and only masochism will drive you forward when using that hw with that os
@@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070 I mean a lot of distros are basically 100% point and click. Like they include menus for common commands like system updates and installing drivers so you can use them with 0 knowledge of the command line. Also if you can't use a search engine Windows is also quite cumbersome, I have to time and again look up fixes for bugs in programs and games on there, and even sometimes use MS's own command line using batch scripts to do things.
@@celestialsylveon6453 This. Both require a search engine to troubleshoot, it's natural. In my personal experience, Windows is actually *harder* to troubleshoot because a lot of information is incomplete or cryptic, whereas Linux often has better community support, not to mention Linux's excellent manpage system. Windows tangles every detail in unnecessary red tape with too many loose ends to easily untangle; Linux is an old country road with potholes and few buildings - let alone people - to come by. It may not be for everyone but I'm glad to have a toolkit in my trunk when the car fails because I don't need to rely on filling out form B225-99/BBQ before actually getting help.
What is funny is that my high-school was running all their Windows PC's via a Linux Server... The server UI broke and all the computers were booting up to a user command line. They had me fix the issue, and what was even more funny is that all our PC's were not licensed.
As for the Wifi drivers: It's not that Linux doesn't want to support certain pieces of hardware, but rather that certain hardware manufacturers are often not interested in providing upstream Linux drivers. If you have an Intel, Qualcomm/Atheros or Mediatek Wifi chipset, chances are good that they work out of the box. Nearly all Linux distros ship with Wifi drivers for most of these vendors' cards and then some.
" certain hardware manufacturers are often not interested in providing upstream Linux drivers". Yeah, they are not interested to invest money in a thing which will never be profitable.
@@temp50 In the context of drivers (and especially Wi-Fi drivers), that's just stupid because they're isolating themselves from a very lucrative cloud computing market.
@@VivekYadav-ds8oz It is not that easy. Have you ever heard of vertical market segmentation? If a company is interested in the server market, they will most probably provide support for linux for their server-grade hardware because that is profitable for them in that segment. If the same company also has interest in the consumer market, it most probably will conenctrate on Windows drivers for their consumer-grade hw since that OS is dominant in the consumer segment. They won't put effort into a linux driver stack if only 1% of they customers would benefit of it. So conclusion is: buy server-grade hw for your consumer needs if you want to have (a good) linux support.
@@temp50 Linux already has support for a lot of the standards to support the latest Wi-Fi hardware. However manufacturers are manufacturers and always bundle their own BS or use their own proprietary standards. The reason they just work on Windows is that the drivers are preloaded and installed by the manufacturer before-hand to save you time. Linux has no idea what hardware you're going to approach it with before you even get to it. If you used a modern day laptop or computer, I'm sure Linux would work perfectly especially as recently OEMs have been leaning towards hardware support and actually doing things properly.
A few years back when I was a student, I took a laptop from the early 2000s, wiped the harddrive and installed a lite version of Linux. It was amazing as this laptop was saved and became viable for the purposes I required as a student.
@@imibuks-replit not really it just said most people will buy expensive ipad because like windows it just works. but it wasn't wrong in that case not every one is going to care to use linux that is the bottomline.
I bought a netbook for 20.00 that I used to take notes at college and put Linux on. It did not run great, but it ran. It originally came with Windows XP and I suppose it ran O.K. With Windows 10 it ran like crap. Linux did fine because I was only doing one thing with it. At home I had a Windows computer that I could buy almost any software for. I edit photos. The software that I use runs on Apple or Windows, but does not run on Linux. There is photo software for Linux, but it is very complicated and runs like crap. I guess it all depends on what you are doing that matters. For what I was doing Linux was the best thing. For what I do now, it is not. Before I went to college I had a business. I know, a bit backwards. Very rarely do you hire somebody that has not already worked somewhere else. That there are many versions pretty well works against Linux in business. You want your software to be exactly the same as this person used the last place they worked. You do not want to spend a week training a person on a version of Linux that they did not see at their last job. That gets real expensive real fast.
I even have my original Dell Windows XP laptop. Works like a damn charm. The keyboard is worn out and that's pretty much it. I can watch my old DVD's if needed.
To be fair, you don't need to touch the command line on many popular Linux distros in this era. The vast majority of users the OS is basically a glorified bootloader for a web browser. Linux is on the rise; the fact that 5% of desktop users are on Linux is insane compared to years ago. As for no need, I think that is changing as Microsoft has gotten more and more aggressive with bloat, ads, and political messaging default in the OS.
True that. It's harder to find a distro that doesn't come with either Gnome or KDE and Firefox/Chromium preinstalled than one that does. When I first used it the linux user demographic was about 1-2%. If we count Android, that number goes waaay up. Windows phone OS was a bigger flop than the Zune 😂
While that may be true, the premise of the video is comparing two different use cases. Microsoft, Amazon and the like use Linux for backend services, where Linux truly shines. Linux desktop can be a bit of a dumpster fire. Personally, I think apple and Microsoft have the desktop market locked down, and it isn’t going anywhere. The “year of the Linux desktop” is a pipe dream in my personal opinion.
That few percentage still doesn't mean anything. Android does not count as its designed to be friendly to the less tech savy and comes with an environment provided by Google that has so many apps and games specifically for it. Linux OS is free, but most people in the developed world still pirate Windows as all their other programs they pirate too are for Windows. With Microsoft 11 not supporting certain hardware due to the Trusted Platform Module (TPM) many will have to install Linux or throw away their computers and purchase a new one. So what will happen in the future should people in developing countries switch to Linux or continue to use Windows 10 after the updates end in 2025 could be the deciding factor in pushing OS martket share of Linux.
@@spross216 Have you ever used Linux for a week or so? Ei sat down, picked the distro you felt suited you best, installed it and went to work? I mention this in another post, but it is quite easy to exchange MS Office for Open Office, Google Docs or something similar. It's also quite easy to use Photopea instead of Photoshop, Davinci Resolve as opposed to Premiere, while Chromium and/or Firefox install quite easily on pretty much any browser. Proton makes the majority of WIndows only games run perfectly fine on Linux, and a *LOT* of games have Linux versions to begin with. Anyway, I'm very, very curious as to what you mean by _"Dumpster fire."_ If you're going by trying it once, or even worse, simply hearsay, then I can only suggest you give it a shot. I mean is every Android OS a dumpster fire? They're pretty much all built on a Linux Kernel. Is the Steamdeck a dumpster fire, as again, that is 100% Linux using Proton for games that don't have a native Linux version, which again, many do. So hearsay or experience? Even more importantly, are you willing to give it another go if your first experience was rough? If you aren't into fiddling and are happy with WIndows I understand, but if you want a faster less intrusive user-end experience, they I suggest trying it out again. A *LOT* of things have changed over the last year, never mind the last decade. Between cell phones, tablets, the Nvidia Shield (which was an *INSANELY* good gaming tablet and turned into _"The Switch"_ after a poor release back in 2016 if I am not mistaken, and now the Steamdeck, Linux could *ABSOLUTELY* see a bump to 15% of regular home users. Especially with Microsoft insisting on _upgrading_ to Windows 11. I hate these upgrades. Win 10 is working _fine_ when i use it. I have no need for Windows 11 to force me to go through literally thousands of lines to uncheck hundreds of them to stop their absurd data harvesting. I don't even care about the information itself (as far as I know at least). Them knowing what I prefer to eat or what I buy online doesn't bug me. Slowing my hardware down and using my bandwidth for it does though. Lol, Ok, I'm getting off topic. Please explain the dumpster fire and give it another chance (or a first shot as it may be). You may be pleasantly surprised how simple it really is. Heck, you can make a new partition on a drive, then run Linux off a darn USB stick if you don't want to install it on your actual PC (though having a dual boot Linux/Windows PC does come in really handy sometimes).
It wasn't hard for me to switch from windows to linux because I was already using software on windows that had linux versions. If PCs were sold with linux aa pre installed options instead of windows, I bet the non pc building crowd would use it more.
I've heard that was offered at one point by one of the popular PC makers - the Linux computers were $50 cheaper than their Windows counterparts, so most people who didn't understand the difference bought the cheaper options. They later returned their computers and complained about the quality because the kind of people who don't understand what Linux vs Windows means are also the kind of people who can't figure out how to use Linux.
@@alexkelley8342then again if you're building a gaming set up, Linux is probably not the best option unless you're a developer. Even office workers sometimes are forced by a company to use Microsoft tools so you can't even use libre office if you wanted to
Yes Linux user here. Replaced the iOS on my 2011 MacBook Pro after finding I could no longer watch some streamed content on the Internet. So replaced the OS for Ubuntu, and continue to enjoy a working, supported environment on a very nice bit of hardware. Nice one Linux developers, your contribution is much appreciated👍🙂
Yep, I gave up on Windows completely over a year ago, annoyed by Win10 and the slowness and resource hogging, plus the nagging to go to Win 11. I surveyed the distros and decided on Linux Mint. And everything I need is available. Almost all of it was already there after install. A few things were not, mostly some utilities. It recognized ALL my hardware on this HP laptop, and also recognized some older USB devices that Windows no longer supported. Summary, Linux Mint supported more of my hardware than Windows 10 did. And LibreOffice, on the install with Mint, does everything I need and some things better. The laptop doesn't run as hard, fan runs less, and memory is better utilized. It actually has more gadgets with the install than I have ever used on Win10. I am really missing nothing from Win10 and am not looking back. Linux even saved me an expensive hardware upgrade.
that is it. If you can run your software, the os is irrelevant. If you need one app that linux can't run. you are out of luck. The os is just for the background wallpaper and boot
@@akusworld5117 this isn't applicable for everyone, there are virtual machines installed that can run windows only software, but you do not need to suffer every day using windows just cause one program needs it, i won't bend my butt over to one stubborn program... changing whole os just tofit it's needs and discard mine, linux is far better and less infringing on my freedom to use my computer.
@@AmanTheDisciple me too... game developers will never develop for linux because too few people use it, and people will never use linux because their games don't support it, it's a vicious cycle that I hope would be broken some day
5% was what we dreamed about 20 years ago. Linux is still the OS of the technically curious, iconoclast, or those who have special needs. I have lent my machine to non technical types, and they don't even know they are using Linux. As young people become more technically proficient, that 5% will grow, but it will not happen over night.
The problem with young people is that they are not tech savvy, at all. If a software can't be driven by pushing their thumbs onto the screen, they are lost. If a software requires reading a manual, they are lost. A generation of consumers can't maintain the deep knowledge of the previous generation who actually invented and built all they take for granted. UNIX is 50, and wasn't the first OS by any mean. Linux is 30 and was just another UNIX clone when created. We use technology designed by boomers.
I used Linux in school teaching, presentations, slide shows, documents, spreadsheets, video editing, photo editing, audio editing and so on. I have no problem in what so ever as Linux as my daily driver for productivity. And I don't have to pay anything. I got absolute freedom to use it.
which video editing program did you use? i am on Ubuntu 22.10 and OpenShot doesnt work so please tell me what you used UPDATE 12th March 2023: i got a new PC with Windows and im too lazy to install Linux again,
Okay, so I'm a pro audio user and I used to use Linux for most of my daily tasks and windows for music production and live performances. There was this one instance where I was just about to start a live show; I booted my computer and it started an auto update. I waited for half an hour but I had a time commitment to the organisers so I decided to stop the update and then booted it up again and oh what a big mistake I had made. My computer would keep BSODing and it caused major interruptions in my event. That was the day when I had enough of this bs. I moved completely to Linux and tried to make all my pro audio software work with Linux, and it runs surprisingly well... You're right to say that Linux works very well for professional use cases, and that's because it does not force a paradigm on you. It's you who decides what the computer does, unlike windows which dictates what you can and can't do, depending upon Microsoft's mood. Thanks for the video, it was very informative! And I really hope Linux gets better for the average user, so that more people can adopt it and have greater control over their machine.
If I may ask was it difficult to get the software working? I know that a lot of audio production software operates on a subscription basis, and thus incorporates a lot of DRM.
Amen, I've heard many such horror stories, and so many straws that finally break the camels' backs. I dont remember exactly what it was for me, but for about 6 months before starting uni I was getting more and more pissy at windows being windows, finally since I started a CS course I had a good reason and started dual booting linux, and from there I just got enchanted. It's quite magical, especially because I chose to install Garuda first, and then two weeks later decided to install arch xD. Its a super nerdy world there but hey, you get everything to work, look great, and have the complete freedom to do whatever, its beautiful.
No matter what OS you are using, you never never ever ever run updates during your production time, especially when you don't have a machine to switch to. No production machine should be on auto update.
"It's you who decides what the computer does, unlike windows which dictates what you can and can't do, depending upon Microsoft's mood. " Amen brother. Its unreal to me how many people are just ok being told what they can or can't do with their own god damn computer. Like, I get it, not everyone can be an expert at everything, but you can't take your car to a mechanic and expect to be able to make an informed decision about your vehicle without having some understanding about how the thing works, same thing with a medical doctor. You really don't need to know that much about linux to get most of what everyone needs out of a computer. As for software that doesn't run on Linux, if more people would just give apple and ms the finger, then people would come up with solutions for Linux. As for photoshop, etc, yeah, gimp and other "creative" software might not be as good as the adobe alternative, but its really not that bad. Yeah, it kinda sucks to have to learn how to do the same things in different software, but hell at least you're learning something that can't be taken away from you. As far as adobe is concerned, you don't have any right to any of "their" software even though you're running it on YOUR computer. Fuck that. If its being ran on my computer, then its mine, and I won't let any legal authority tell me otherwise. I own my computer, not someone else across the country.
You are describing the more minimalistic destrose of Linux. There are distros like Ubuntu and Mint that target the average user and contain applications needed for personal life. Those districts work right out of the box and even contain office competitors.
He just made this video just to catch likes, by saying a ton of crap about Linux and most of it is even nonsense. Installing apps is even more straightforward on Linux since there's a store but he said that "people need to go find them" ???
@@vincenzo3232lol nothing he said is wrong -most people don’t see windows is or Mac OS as a cost and not “free” since it’s included with computers you buy. So Linux being free isn’t an advantage -most users don’t use the command line or care. They are just casual users who just want it to work and use it for simple things. it’s like getting a car most people just want to drive it. Just because I want to operate a car doesn’t mean I want to learn to be a mechanic too. -most users don’t see macOS as full of bloatware. It doesn’t come with Mcafee and abunch of tower big things running in the background slowing it down. -macOS is polished and mostly “just works”. The fact there are soooo many distros are Linux’s biggest advantage AND disadvantage. People say they like choices but they really don’t. They like comfortable and easy and aesthetically pleasing. The fact I have to search out certain distros that work better at some things than others is unnecessary for most. I just want one that works period. I don’t want to have to search out drivers and use the command line to download things to make it work. Most people just want it to work
@@vincenzo3232 im curious what advantages linux has over specific things i need games (roblox,minecraft,EA games,epic game store,btd6/other steam games) discord and for them to be fully customizable with modded gameplay or others AND MOST IMPORTANTLY: what tasks can you do specifically with the command line as the video says and how many hours of learning do you need to install these based off of intutiton. I dont want to learn another coding language to use linux
More bloated than MacOs tbh. For the average user there are no real advantages to use Linux, but only disadvantages. The disadvantages being the most popular apps do not exist in Linux...Go tell em there is no Photoshop (wtf is Gimp), or even a simple Paint (all linux alternatives are damn weird/buggy). How do I play World of Warcraft? Where is Office?
@@gregpeterson3144 yep linux user just don't get it some coming from windows are mac are used to using programs from windows and mac and most of the softwares don't work out of the box on linux so of course their not going to change and use linux for that reason alone. the more honest linux videos i watch say openly if you like windows there is no need to switch. but add if you like more privacy more control over your os then linux is for you. so there is a switch off a good reason to want to switch then just saying it is better then windows or mac. i think this a better way to go about it but most linux users just want to say it better and the best and that just doesn't work for most people.
As a Software Engineer, I can say that it is totally relatable to use Linux instead of Windows when you are working on Servers/ Over the Cloud applications. Linux gives you much more control over everything and there are a lot of powerful shell applications to use. But when it comes to higher-layered Development, like programming an Android App I prefer to work with Windows. It's like everything: Use the best of both worlds and you are good to go. No OS is the best in every area, after all.
@@johnyepthomi892 I bought my computer having virtual machines in mind. I originally was going to run Linux in Hyper-V, and I did for a little bit and then I switched to running Linux natively and setting up a Virtual Machine to run Windows when I feel a need for it. I also use the VM to try out other OSes, like FreeBSD.
I have to disagree with the Android app development. I develop Android games and have lost count of how many times my build tool chains break down on Windows (especially because of its stupid filepath's character limit). Once I switched to Linux, all my problems were solved like magic once I switched to Linux. Unless your tool chain based on Visual Studio, Windows is still a horrible choice for programming until this day.
I've been using Linux since I was 8 years old. I'm just now learning how Windows works, but I will always prefer my linux-based, surveillance-free, and free as in beer operating system.
I first installed *nix on a 386 box when I was like 10 years old. Had no idea what i was doing at first, but it kept my mom from using my computer to check her emails and browse spyware-infested clickbait articles like she used to when my box ran Windows 98 😂 My dad taught me DOS at an early age, I learned my ABC's from a DOS prog he wrote, so I was comfy with CLI even growing up well into the GUI age. I think it was Gentoo minimal distro. Pretty sure I ended up installing KDE but didn't include it in startup hehe. Always kept a bootable CD of it with me in high school, every day I'd come home with more NTHashes from the school windows machines to crack, had a dedicated Pentium machine I'd found in a bank dumpster I ran l0phtcrack on 24/7. Ended up rooting the whole multi million dollar school network by 10th grade and the admins working there were none the wiser bc they didn't even consider bootable CDs in their "security" protocols. They thought I spent my lunch periods helping the librarians with computer stuff, but that was only half true. Good times ;) I like free as in beer and free as in rights. Nowadays I mostly use my pc for gaming and mining crypto, hence Windows is my main OS, but I like to keep a linux partition for the occasional tomfoolery.
@UCStwjS8zzwNtWemGySETXhw speaking of lack of bloat and efficiency, if you're into z80 stuff there's a new OSS OS out called "Zeal 8-bit OS." The creator has a yt channel and so far only like 1800 subscribers. It's been a long term goal of mine to find a way to install a z80 Linux port on my graphing calculator lol.
You missed many points. I tried Linux but switched to Windows because I couldn't find some specific software on Linux, but after switching to Windows, I soon discovered the open source ecosystem, like gimp, inkscape, olive, Thunderbird, and all those software are great and amazing once you are comfortable with them. Even though I am still using Windows, I have completely switched to open source software for productivity, so if I ever need to switch to Linux, I know I will be fine.
@@nofreewill the other thing you can do is install a linux based os (my preference: mint cinnamon) on an external ssd. you can plug that ssd to any computer anywhere and start being productive right away as you have your system always portable with you. now you can run windows on you main pc and linux on ssd to its even more safe. plenty software devs do this
I only use Windows Because of Photoshop being a huge part of my workflow and Even tho gimp is mostly the same, there are a bunch of newer photoshop features that i use 24/7 that arent Even near to be added, and the context AI aint that great in GIMP too. For any other thing i just use linux.
@@cloudmindead5560 Yeah, you have a point, but I found some great alternative workflows to Photoshop, like always duplicating your layer before making an adjustment, always putting your OG images in a layer group, and utilising Gimp's present features to make adjustments on existing effects, and I also found many foss ai tools that help me edit my photos and make graphics, some for upscaling, some for removing backgrounds, and some for removing artefacts.
About a decade ago, I installed Ubuntu on a then-old PC for someone who just needed it for web mail and general web browsing and who had basically zero familiarity with tech. And it worked perfectly for her for years last I heard.
@@StefanoTrevisani Your point is valid. Such a user could be using any OS. I do think part of the message of this video is that Linux demanding its users interact with it in esoteric and labyrinthine ways is one barrier to wide adoption. In that sense, this Firefox-only Linux user is an example of someone for whom, when Linux is set up to "just work" and that barrier is removed, Linux works fine. Her experience of Linux is the same as a Windows user's experience of Windows. For many users, OSes these days are just app launchers for thin client applications to web services. In the sense I think you mean, these people aren't using those operating systems either. Or, rather, their use of the OS is invisible to them in the same way my uses of my device's OS, my ISP, and the power grid are all invisible to me as I write this comment. Whether it's desirable for Linux to be that or not is another question. I think there is value in technology demanding attention in a way that highlights the consequences of its use. And I think having the option to customize Linux as much as is possible is a very good thing.
@@queens.dee.223 precisely! It's not an argument in favour or against any os, it's just that, once you start using a browser, the os almost disappears... It could be Windows, Linux, Mac, ChromeOS... Really you could argue that modern browsers are literal operative systems! They eat up a lot of memory/CPU, which they schedule among tabs and among elements inside each tab, they execute (web)assembly code... I think you get my point. My point is how you deal in Linux/Windows with problems/aspects that concern the OS itself, and Linux unfortunately is not very good at that. I don't know how many lines of C++ code I had to change when trying to get software to compile because of incompatibilities with the compiler toolchain, the kernel version, and so on... I know windows is not much better in that regard, if Bash is trash Powershell is the whole dump, setting env variables is a mess and compiling any library designed for Linux is almost impossible. But really, even this argument about "programming-friendly" is a bit old: think about rust, from what I have seen works as good in windows as in Linux.
I've used Linux Mint as my daily operating system for nearly a decade and typically didn't use the command-line. People's understanding of Linux is typically 20 years old. I use a Mac now because I wanted an M1 chip, but I got more than 15 years experience in using various Linux operating systems.
why don't we cause most of us just do not care that's why we use what our computers come with and forget about it which is why we have so many problems with it in the long run🤣
My issue with Linux is mainly in laptops you have a lot of power management drivers and you can get poor battery life as those drivers may not be present in linux. Also the function keys are not supported and don't work out of the box (e.g. brightness/volume etc. on top of F1-F12). If I were using an older desktop and was mainly working on documents and office stuff I would totally use it but my experience with laptops has always been that there's 1 or 2 functions that just can't be made to work - at least as a (non-Power) user. If I could afford a new System76 machine and they covered my needs I'd go for it... But used windows laptops with 10-15 hour battery life and good specs are like 200-400$ nowadays.
That's true, it's remarkable how many seem to think you still need to use the command line or that gaming on Linux isn't that great and so on. Truth is, Linux is quite an easy OS to use, it's different from Windows so there is a bit of a learning curve but that's the case for anything that's different and as we're seeing with the Steam Deck, Linux is more than capable at running games. That doesn't mean Linux is perfect, but it's in a much better place now than it was just 5 years ago.
In 2001 when I started high school there was pa PC room that every student used. On the PCs there was some weird OS with a red hat. I was so fascinated that when I got my first PC I had to install Linux on it. Today I’m a developer and a gamer and use Linux every day. My wife, kids, brother, mom and dad use Linux and they are happy with it.
@@ASDREX458 I use Manjaro. I play 4h per day (I work from home so I can game a little during work ). I play games that works on Linux. Today mostly WOW.
I have used Linux since 1998. I started with programming 8-bit machines in graded school. These machines were made for education and DIY and booted to a prompt where you could program them from the ground up. The philosophy i grew up with was more about what i could create and not what product could i buy. My childhood was dysfunctional without much money. Naturally when i turned 18 i worked hard to buy a computer. Two freaking years i saved up to build a windows 98 machine, working double shifts. I was severely let down by windows 98. When i turned it on i could not do a single freaking thing. DOS was crippled. The philosophy around technology changed in a way that was horrifying to me. Locked down machines i could not program from the ground up without spending half a years income first.. I was about to give up and sell my computer then stumbled upon Linux while searching for free C/C++ compilers. Immediately i was taken back to the what can i create philosophy that greatly shaped my childhood. this journey took me from being a dishwasher without a college degree to full fledged systems admin/programmer and consultant within 4 years. I do not even want to think of how broke i would be if i had stuck with windows in 1998. Priceless self education and life changing opportunities would of never presented themselves. It scares me honestly. I use windows when i need it. Of course this runs on my Linux server with GPU passthrough. I will never give it access to bare metal. ;)
damn i am curious how linux was in that time frame as i was born in 1997 that was a pivotal time in os and hardware development. i cant imagine how the scene was experiencing the outcomes now. i like windows and linux almost equally though most of the software im familiar with is in windows.
@@justinjones6302 It was about 1998 or 2000 that I switched to Linux for my home computer, shortly after I got an Internet connection. Windows 3.1 couldn't handle filenames longer than 8.3 (such as the Internet used). I was using Windows 95 at work, it crashed regularly, I sure wasn't going to pay money for that 'upgrade' at home (admittedly Windows got a lot better later) so I went looking and bought a CD of Red Hat. It was a bit fiddly to install, but I got it working. Shortly thereafter I switched to Debian 3.0 (Woody) and I've stuck with Debian ever since. Installation got rapidly easier as Debian automated the installer, and the fact that Linux is free so they don't have to copy-protect the install CDs made a big difference (compared with Windows).
Why would it have cost more for you to stay with Windows 98? Didn't they have free dev tools back then? I was born in 1998, so I have no real knowledge of that era of computing when it comes to pricing lol. But yeah I booted Linux for the first time 5 years ago, got into programming and now I'm hopefully going to graduate at the end of this year with a degree in computer science.
@@cronchcrunch back then you had borland c++, microsoft visual studio, and so on, but no free dev tools, the only free dev tool was linux with GCC compiler. Software was not as spread as today and internet connection as dial-up with 56k connection. we would party if we were able to download 10MB in 1 hour.
I use Linux on my old devices. Learning the command line really kept me going in my free time especially I'm temporarily a housewife (in between jobs). The Linux distros such as Mint function on low specs and made my old laptops from 10-8 yrs ago function very well, with the challenge of installing manually some drivers. Idk, maybe I love tinkering things that's why Linux intrigued me so much. I gave the old laptops with Linux a second lease of life and gave the devices to mom and dad, as they just use computers for social media and youtube.
Ubuntu or Mint comes with basically everything you need out of the box. What you don't have but need can be installed without using any type-magic It's not that bad.
@@XX-dq3kx May I repeat my question? I've not disagreed with you. You just come in here and left an infant comment that does not even fit the topic of the original comment. Now you also insult people you don't even know.
@@Gramini as a person in tech I have big distaste when someone suggests anything remote to consumers that needs open terminal sudo mount blah blah to install a software.
I feel like some of the most important points about Linux vs Windows and MacOS are missing in this video: - The most important point to me is marketing and lobby. Apple is really good at marketing which gives them a very good visibility. Microsoft pushes a lot on institutions (especially education and governements) to use their software. So students learn to use Windows and Microsoft Office, so it just makes sense for them to keep Windows when they finish their studies. For Linux, it has the stigma of being complicated and reserved to powerusers and there is not a lot of marketing to remove this stigma. The video seems heavely based on those stigmas and not on experience. - Windows is usually preferred by people because it is what they are used to. As long as there is no incentive to change, they don't see the need to try other OSes. - The lack of drivers is half true. In some cases, i've had to install drivers on Windows while it was already installed on Linux. - There is no need for it. This shows that the baseline is Windows or Mac for many people because there is also no need to switch from linux to Windows when you just do basic tasks. I would also add there can be a need for it, if you have very old hardware that won't run on Windows, you can use Linux to recycle it. In terms of security, Linux tends to be safer because it is frequently reviewed by third party (usually because this third party uses it for critical applcations such as servers), so this is another reason to switch. - The use of terminal is often used as an argument against Linux, but that is not necessary to use Linux. You can do everything with a user interface. - On Ubuntu and Manjaro (and many other distributions) all the basic softwares come preinstalled (web browser, office suite, email client, ...), so the argument about having every software preinstalled is wrong. Overall, feel like this video was heavely based on impressions and too little research. Still, it is interesting to see how others see Linux.
no, nonsense. the main issue is support. not onyl lack of software support, proper software that is equivalent to windows for most standard user. but worse, support in general. find one service company having profound linux knowlege. you wont find many. that makes it hard to sell. in business the lack of management for clients and its now a lot less secure foundation is another hard sell. as fort software, windwos offers simply a big ecosystem and built in libraries, making software development 5-50times cheaper while maintanance basically none over decades. try that on linux i use linux on a second drive special purpose for somethings, i use it on all of my server farms, but honestly as my main working OS, its simply way behind in useablity and software support. hell half of my small utilities are dead github projects i had to patch to be halfway alive myself
The learning barrier for Linux is quite high though. Average users who are not familiar with using the terminal will find it daunting to use. That's why it's not that popular despite the 'benefits' you've listed above, it's only accessible to advanced computer users such as yourself. You might think, "you only need the terminal for a small number of things", but you have to understand that the masses do not have the same savviness as you do. Installing the OS itself is quite daunting to many, let alone messing with the terminal. You have to understand that the mentality of an average user is to pay money for a computer and then immediately start doing work with it. Not tinkering with anything in the OS. Maybe the wallpaper at most. Having too many distros is also confusing to the average user. You have to study which one suit you the best. Windows now only have 2 versions, Home and Pro while Mac has 1. Simplicity is key. You might argue that having a lot of distros is beneficial to the consumers because there's freedom in it, but you're thinking from the mind of an advanced computer user. As long as Linux don't have the level of user friendliness of Windows or Mac, it will only be a niche part of the computer market.
@@vlabla9063 well i am not an expert and i use linux, i use zorin os , and the interface is similar to windows, is easy to install software, there is a lot of preinstalled software and i think is a solid os for average users, i play dota on it, only issue is that you migth need to use ispecific software.
@@vlabla9063 Totally incorrect. Here is an example of my mother. The first computer she bought for herself was an old laptop that Windows was just suffocating and killing. So I installed Linux on her laptop. So her first OS was actually Ubuntu. When she bought a new laptop a few years later, Windows was preinstalled on it. When she turned it on, the first thing she said was, can you install Ubuntu here, Windows is too complicated for me. I can't manage at all. This video is very badly done, a total failure. The research is very poorly done. Do you have to use a terminal - you don't have to at all. Can games be played - of course, almost all recent titles. Drivers - the same problems I have on Linux I have on Windows (just pay attention to how many programs there are for finding drivers and updating them). Security is very important, and the proof of this is that 80% of all servers in the world run some Linux distribution.
I'm kinda on the fence. I've used Linux (and want to switch to it exclusively), but Xfinity Stream is the only thing holding me back. They say they don't support Linux because it doesn't support the encoder used to block the video when you try to make a screenshot or record the screen.
I used to be a Windows 11 user, and a student, when I decided to switch to Linux, I chose Ubuntu because that was the most famous option at the time, the setup was very self explanatory, the most difficult part was getting the hard drive that I stored the OS in ready; a tutorial made it easy for me. As a Windows user, after the installation and setup, Linux, at least distros I am familiar with like Fedora and Ubuntu had the same amount of user friendliness as windows or mac. When I brought that computer to my school to show it to my friends, they thought it was really cool, and for the command line, I got naturally used to it. Linux's capabilities are way higher than windows like removing screen time from an Ipad with script that sent to another device using a Wifi or to prank my sister while she was gaming very seriously, I logged her out of her windows machine which was funny.
I pranked my teacher by making my camera a rickroll back during the pandemic (You can do that on Windows too but still, I'm quite proud to have been able to figure everything out). Sadly I live in Asia and my teacher is quite old so he didn't get the meme. All I got was "What the hell is going on with your camera" 🗿
I used win 11 too.. Then it started deleting my keyboard+mouse drivers after updates, the last thing was when explorer started crashing from copying to desktop.. Now i use debian
Command line section felt like fear mongering especially since the only reason I use terminal is not knowing GUI options existed,and nobody uses command line for editing word docs or emails😂
I agree. Email/zoom/docs can all be opened on Firefox. If you don't like Firefox, it's as easy as going to chrome download page, opening up the package with double click and boom you got chrome, no command line required.
To me, I have to use it when the software center basically breaks, also some settings for niche stuff like my graphics tablet HAD TO BE DONE through the terminal because KDE's settings doesn't do anything.
The missing drivers, missing features, lack of polish and terminal requirements were all fear-mongering to actually discourage people from using Linux. This has not been true of Linux for years. Not only do you have more control and customization options, the average user never has to open a terminal window any more. I know, because when I switched from Windows it was a prerequisite for me due to my memory challenges, and I've got on fine.
I have tried some different linux distros over the years and honestly linux is quite nice. I have obviously had some ups and downs especially with parrot OS but softwares like timeshift have always come in handy for when i mess up. Linux today has a very large community and in most cases any error you encounter someone else has already dealy with the same and the quick fix will be on the forum. It has been the best 6 years
Been running parrot daily for about a year now.. spent time in other debian distros and have some mild experience in Fedora.. my DKMS and headers like to break a lot in parrot though.. I've had more luck with Parrot out of the box than Kali, however.
I'm on Linux mint and loving it. Was the easiest for me to switch over on. Timeshift one of the best programs out there. Especially if you have no clue what you are doing. Saved my neck a few times when I tried something and it didn't go so well. Or if an occasional glitch made it into the updates.
Tried Lubuntu a few years back and it was great, really easy to use and actually easier to set up than WIndows initially. Didn't have any problems with it for ages. But when I did I couldn't find the right information. All the different distros make it impossible unless you really get into how the system works and can define what you need to find in very certain terms. I tinker some, but with the things that interest me. Learning everything I'd need to learn to be able to use Linux effectively in that way would take far more energy than learning the things I actually want to learn and make it that much slower. Most importantly before I discovered VR I never felt motivated to learn more than some basics out of curiosity and everything is built for Windows. Everything of quality at least, Android's a whole other headache. So I'm stuck, everyone's stuck and it stinks but here we are.
@@glenrisk5234 I'm using that, and have been for a long time. It's probably tainted my view of Linux because I'm using like a 6 or 8 year old version of the OS. It's pretty much impossible for me to successfully download and use anything without the help of a very talented friend, and most of the time even with his help I usually never get anything to work consistently
Wasn't parrot os SPECIFICALLY designed for professional use in IT security use? It is absolutely not meant as something for you to use on a daily bases man. I suggest you look into something that is made for daily driver purposes.
Regarding gaming, a new generation of linux gamers is coming thanks to the Steam Deck. It's definitely removing a lot of stigma regarding Linux among gamers and they are starting to see the possible benefits of having it on their gaming PC too: despite the translation of wine/proton, in many cases it can achieve higher performance or compatibility. There's many old games that already work better on linux than windows, and some new games benefit from having a shader cache and a faster filesystem etc. It also provides features that can't be done with windows, at least not easily. For example pausing games so they don't consume any CPU/GPU power while they're paused. On the Steam Deck that's very easily done with the plugin "pause games" in decky, and it takes advantage of linux features to suspend processes.
@@deibos8546 What do you mean? It's a tiny little laptop which I already used as another linux PC machine for a while when my desktop broke and it's surprisingly more powerful as such than I expected. It's theoretically less powerful than my regular laptop but it felt faster. It's probably the unified GDDR5.
To be fair, I think the strength of Linux is in its adaptability. Steam uses Linux as the base of their SteamOS so they can optimize it for gaming on handheld. They're not gonna convince Microsoft to build a Steam version of WIndows. I still don't see Linux will be popular among desktop gamers though. Average user just won't tinker Linux that deep to optimize the OS to their computers. Windows still wins the one-size-fits-all approach.
@@estidi It doesn't need as much "tinkering" as you think. Most of the heavy lifting is done through Proton and setting games to run in "game mode" so it receives more system resources for better performance. Many games even run faster in Linux through Proton than they do on the Windows system it was compiled for, thanks to Vulkan. Let me repeat that: Binary code that was compiled to run on Windows has even surpassed Windows performance running through a compatibility layer on Linux by using Vulkan. Most games run on par with Windows. It's really only kernel-level anti-cheat root-kits that have trouble. How tragic is that for Windows?
I started using Linux because my PC was getting slower and slower, with always more problems without any motivation, and it was less than 2 years old! I decided that changing PC wasn't worth if it would slow down in 2 years, and so tried Linux. In Debian I found exactly what I wanted from an OS: simple, stable and fast! Now I have no BSOD or updates at the wrong time, and the advantage of not having to look on the "wild" internet for the software I need (almost everything is in the repositories)!
Debian is a very good choice. It's the basis of many other popular Distros like Ubuntu and Mint. It's also widely used in internet hosting for its performance, stability and security. Never had a problem with it, except for the time I messed something up horribly with root rights. Luckily it was a fresh install and I quickly fixed it by just installing it again in a few minutes.
I've noticed that Linux really shines when you go far enough to find limitations of Windows. I started having obnoxious problems that I couldn't get solved, Microsoft''s tech support being of no help to fixing them, and had no way to fix the problems without reinstalling Windows (a process I've become very familiar with). A lot of games can have variations in performance, but usually aren't too difficult to get running, since if having Proton on doesn't fix it, setting it to use experimental usually does. You just gotta care about the perks Linux has for it to be useful Also the command line is a curse and a blessing. Immensely powerful, and yet I would never let my grandfather anywhere near it, and would be horrified if he were to learn about the fdisk command
Your grandfather probably wrote the command-line. It's under-appreciated that old people are probably more familiar with the CLI than new users. If not an Apple II, they may have been fiddling with punchcards in college. I am just now going deep into the biggest downsides of a UI. Very small devices may soon stop having screens at all. Imagine phones and watches, or ear buds that are full-blown cell phones. Some are best navigated by audio with a controller similiar to a remote-control. All that would be based on re-purposing features that were mostly made for blind people, where it's a text shell sending out text to audio or tactile devices.
Grandfathers would be comfortable with the command line as that is all we knew back in the 70s/early 80s, but maybe you have to conjure up some demographic to feel superior to.
I switched to Linux for one reason and it's one that you didn't mention and that is privacy. I used to be a Windows user but after the Glory Days of Windows 7 Microsoft implemented a number of privacy violating changes among them being the requirement to connect your PC to a Microsoft account . now yes of course there are ways to remove the Privacy violating features of Windows such as telemetry but for me it is the principle of the matter. as the end user I get no benefit from Microsoft collecting my user data
Agreed; I am about to switch from Win7 to (exclusively) Linux. I've been using Linux for servers and tinkering with desktops but maintained Win7 for "gaming". Now I see Steam will NO longer work for Win7 as of JAN 1; so I will be making a permanent switch to Linux desktop (too)! Screw microsnot and their stupid arse winblows
But it really won't convince 95% of the people because of the intrinsic tendency to trust such big companies. Sure, we say we don't and we won't ever shut up about the suits ruining our lives, but a different safety mechanism applies here: crowd self-assurance. Microsoft crosses the line? You can already see the media frenzy, the class-action lawsuits... whatever trouble affects you, you will be able to remain idle all while the loud majority will go out of their way to protect your interests. Linux doesn't provide that level of comfort. People overwhelmingly don't believe they may fall victim to spying because who gives a shit about them to begin with? To be fair, I don't think even most Linux power users are genuinely afraid of Microsoft being able to learn what type of porn they jack off to. But it's a useful argument to wave that will make you think you're so much smarter than those sorry little Bill Gates bitches. So yeah. Security is just overglorified. You could keep a bunch of cans in your fridge in case of nuclear war, won't even cost you much, but do you? No. Because you don't believe you will ever see a nuclear war. Linux won't become mainstream as long as the advantages used to propagate it are abstract to people.
All the people who say "there are ways to remove it" are forgetting something. 99% of the people who "remove it" missed some hidden parts, because it's like cockroaches hiding all over in different corners of the OS. Each time you do an update, the cockroaches move into new parts and also breed, putting babies into new areas that your prior removals did not get.
It's important to remember that the big guys like Microsoft aren't using the Desktop Linux this video has focused on but server distros to run the servers that Linux is mostly used for..
Important to remember big iron is money maker. Microsoft so confident in own OS, they do not put their on it's own servers, but some cancerous Linux. Desktop Linux same Server Linux or IoT one. Same Linux ISO run on SBC, NAS, Desktop, Server etc.
@@mindaugasstankus5943 You do realize that all Linux distros only really have to share the kernel right? Its by Servers use Linux because its kernel stays stable even under longer uses cases and it was already highly optimized for this purpose being born as a Unix clone. It just makes sense to use Linux for serves because of this but for Desktop usage is having a proper DE pretty important and that is were for many Linux is dropping the ball.
"Virtually all these people are primarily doing extremely generic tasks, like working on word docs and excel sheets, or replying to emails." I agree that the command line can scare people away (especially if they need to start configuring things they don't normally configure); but, most distro's can do these generic tasks without any hassle. Heck, most users could probably even go to Chrome for that type of stuff.
True. A more valid reason for sticking with Windows is IMHO if one uses specific applications that only run under Windows. Although there is always the option to use something like Quemu.
Years ago I had all my children working and playing on dual boot computers. Windows XP and Debian. I continued to dual boot myself to about 10 years ago and all the kids were gone but nowadays I do everything on all machines in Debian. Work, play, server duties, video editing, coding etc. I love the fact over the years all my coworkers would always end up with viruses, worms and various other malware on their windows machines and my OS was immune. 😁
@RoBoT 24 Actually. Now that I think of it more, if we were to carry out the parallel to biological pathology... The 'viruses' zoonotic nature couldn't cross animal familia. DUCKS! 😅
The major issue for me is the lack of software. As an engineering student I often need to use a lot of different and obscure software that will only run on Windows or MacOS. They'll either not run on Linux or require emulators (which would be a waste of my time and effort).
I agree. I used Linux for about 4 years. Found myself more and more isolated from the wide software world. Finally, I decided to open the windows and converted to Windows 11 Professional. It seems like a completely free environment. I have no regrets. Windows 11, without going into details, is more than satisfactory. It fulfills all my requirements.
One interesting thing about this issue is that companies like Valve have pushed the development of wine/proton to play windows game on Linux with awesome performance. If many windows games can run so well in Linux, why could not software?
@@Anton-ki7ch If you use a Linux Distro that is meant to be daily drivable and that does not need manual configuration(Ubuntu(+Ubuntu deritatives), Fedora, Pop! OS,Manjaro,... NOT Kali Linux), such a thing does most likely NEVER occur(I have been using Linux for many Years now and it appeared one time because I used Arch Linux and configures it wrong).
I switched to Linux a few months ago and mainly use it for gaming (RTX 3080 and R5 5600X), I was tired of Windows 11 adding more bloats, adds, tracking and some choices done in their interface that couldn't be changed. A few things that seems incorrect to me - Steam proton and Lutris are very friendly for gamers with very little impact on performance. The real issue is if you play games with anti cheat solutions, most of them doesn't run on Linux for now but Valve is pushing it to change and Epic is behind it too. - The shell that you mentioned as the command line isn't required for anything on most distribution for a normal user, it's just another way to do some tasks, same under Windows where you could use Powershell to be much faster on some administration actions instead of going through x menus - Nothing installed by default, again it depends of the distro, but I doubt someone installing Ubuntu or Manjaro will have a lot missing needs compared to Windows or MacOS, even the integration of most cloud providers can be done in a few clicks through a GUI - Regarding the drivers it's rather inaccurate, the drivers being in the kernel there is nothing for user to do if the hardware is supported. If the wifi isn't available out of the box it's most likely on a distro for advanced users like Gentoo or Arch where users choose to add the packages required for their use case. I doubt a distro intended for a larger audience will have a single issue with it Now the reality is that Linux will probably never be for the average user, not the person looking at tech videos on YT but someone only using it for going on Facebook or checking their emails. They don't care what is running but it needs to be widely available and can ask people around them when an issue arise. But for people not liking the way Microsoft ecosystem evolves and not wanting to go into an Apple lock, Linux is a very interesting option, the only one we have and is getting a turbo boost with companies like Valve pushing it to the general public.
One thing I hate with some games like Destiny 2 is that even if you get the game and anticheat running under proton, you will probably just get banned outright for doing so which is really shitty.
I would use Linux if it supports everything a game need to run, for now I'm using Windows which is also a pain in the neck if something breaks. But atleast they already have the solution, either from community or official.
I am a computer engineering student and I have to say that windows with WSL is a great mix. That being said, I write most of my code on my Raspberry Pi 4 just because the environment and management is far better. I also don't have to jump through as many hoops to do things because many coding tools do not support windows
Docker is a good example, while it does work on windows, you have to enable virtualization in the BIOS and have WSL enabled and updated. On Linux it just works.
@@RenderingUser It helps a bit to not use the Windows terminal. I'm using an X-Server on my Windows (vcxsrv) and use terminator with it. It runs better (for reasons I don't know), but still slower than a real Linux OS in a VM or on bare metal.
WSL is like treating ebola by giving the person cancer and then treating the cancer with the plague. It's a bad solution where the solution is to either virtualize an environment or running linux or mac. It's made to keep public sector from moving their developers to linux and allowing microsoft techs to keep their useless jobs.
I use WSL2 with a WSL extension on VSCode works like Dream. I also have Raspberry Pi5. I connect with the remote Tunel SSH extension for VSCode and run my Python code
1) I think Linux usership will increase dramatically with the trend big tech companies (like Mac and Windows) is heading. I'm referring to situations like bitlocker and TPM where Microsoft own the keys to your computer even though you - the user - purchased it. Apple has also exerted this type of control. They don't like power users and power users will turn to Linux for its open source and its freedom. 2) I literally lol'd when you said [paraphrased] "Linux downgrades people socially." I don't think most people who use Linux care where they fall socially. Also, this is the age of the nerds. The things that people code on Linux have a higher potential for being a viable and PROFITABLE app in the future (more than likely the near-future). The same football jocks who picked on the nerds are now using the very phones that those nerds developed. Social status be damned! 😂🤣
yeah none of that is going to stop people using windows or mac in fact those are the reason that people keep using mac and windows because it is a developer issue not a windows issue. if developers woke up and said now more windows and mac you might have point but until that day happens windows mac isn't going anywhere.
I also found the "Linux downgrades people socially" take laughable. I have to think that this is antiquated. I started using purely Linux in college and no one judged me for it. I've continued to use it professionally for over five years and it's brought me quite a bit of success. There are opportunities that would have never opened for me without Linux. I think judging someone socially based on their preference in OS is ridiculous. It's interesting that there's people here taking your comment as a pure indictment of Windows/Mac. People have different goals that they want from computing. I have friends that primarily use their computers for proprietary applications and gaming (w/ drm). They don't have the same ideological motivation to care about security and ownership. I don't push them to use Linux, because they would incur overhead that they wouldn't benefit from. I think everyone needs to recognize that their preference in OS comes with a set of trade-offs.
I have been using Linux for about 6 years now. I mainly started switching because I got sick of Win10 breaking on me almost every time there was an update. It just became easier to learn linux and its alternative programs than it was to keep my windows up and running.
90% of people in this comment section always bring up updates. Just disable them. You always could do that. Just disable updates and thats it. Or even better get LTS windows version where you can get rid of updates for once and for all
haven't tried ubuntu lts 22.04 but from my experience with pop!_os and linux mint, these "beginner" distros include everything you need for any basic task, and those which aren't included out of the box is just a click in an app store away. Unless you play games, and even then it has gotten waaaaay better, you absolutely do not need windows
@@memebruh2024 Ubuntu isn't the only linux distro out there, Zorin, Pop! OS, Linux Mint and more exist that look similar to windows and have a start menu.
I switched to linux over a year ago since I had enough of windows and its bloat, the way Microsoft will do anything for you to use their product, the lack of control and most importantly, the lack of privacy. I stayed for the flexibility, the morals and philosophy and of course, the terminal that I learned to love
@@BM-we4ij; Microsoft Excel could be installed with Wine, but it's not going to work as it does in windows, thus the better option is to install one of the many open source Office options. (LibreOffice, OpenOffice, WPS Office) There are probably more then these, and they have compatibility for Microsoft formats.
I love Linux for several reasons such as it being open source, no spying for the purposes of advertising or boosting the NSA’s database of warrantless searches, and it’s extremely customizable. Privacy and security is the main reason I use Linux since it has less viruses and no telemetry / spying.
the point he brought up in the video for the reason most people use it. while pointing out no cares about the spying. because they don't they don't think they are doing anything wrong enough to warrant any scary outcome from using their pc lol. linux being more secure less virus isn't a selling point for most since there is remedy for all that on windows as well. but i mean at the end of the day no one cares enough and those that do use linux as you see most don't care since it only has 2.8% share of the market so security isn't a hot button issue for most users.
I'm using linux laptops for personal use for almost 20 years now. But I agree that most people don't want to walk along the learning curve ... they want to walk the straight line to word docs and excell sheets.
The vast majority don't find that fun though. If it had wider appeal we wouldn't have such a chronic shortage of techs and devs (and we wouldn't be getting paid as well either).
@@NotePortalThe people who think that way wouldn't need to be convinced to try out Linux in the first place. The learning curve is only fun after you start actually catching your first sight of knowledge above the curve line. And that's a very long and frustrating way before you reach that point. That's why coding is still so niche despite the awesome money: you have to dedicate so much effort before you start harvesting the first crop.
there is also the point that linux is not just free as in $0, it is also free as in freedom and it is open source and community maintained, so you essentially never have to curse the overlords for forcing something on you like microsoft edge or windows update. Then there is the famous story of a new hire fixing one bug that they themselves found annoying and than quitting, this a lot easier to do one linux, and even if you solution is rejected you can apply it to your own computer without bothering anyone else.
I used Linux for almost 8 years, and my advice to people who want or entering the software development industry, use Linux, I don't code much anymore, but my job depends on my Linux skills. I stopped using it on my personal PC 2 years ago, but I know how to use it.
Ive been using linux for 25yrs. I even base my company around providing services based on foss tech. I agree with using linux because of ideology. I also believe it's just better to have complete control over any device you've spend your hard earned dollars for. I enjoyed the video. Keep em coming.
@@rsh650 no foreign code from ad-companies running all the time no sending protocols to the company no stupid software like WMP, edge or cortana (that you can't completely uninstall) and in theory you can trust that the mic of your laptop is not an espionage tool
I'm a professional software developer who has Windows on my work machine and Linux on my personal one! I swapped to Linux 2 or 3 years ago for personal use as Windows was just getting slower and slower, irrespective of the regular wipes and rebuilds I was doing to try and combat the sluggishness - Linux just makes better use of my hardware, and even now runs super-smooth on my 9 year old ultrabook, beating my Windows laptop (which is brand new) in almost every area like boot-up time, opening programs, etc. Add to that the ability to decide when I want to apply updates, the fact that I can run every program I want, the gaming support advances that Valve have implemented, I can customise it to my hearts content, the better implementation of super-user access - I could go on, but the point is I will not be going back to Windows (unless I'm forced to, like I am by my employer)...
@@stingly142 I used to work with ubuntu for awhile, but now I'm a student and I have 8gig Ram, Amd windows. so I plan to switch to a linux distro which has speed for development and convenient for documentation, Do you have anything in mind?
I'm probably not the best font of knowledge on the Internet! There are a lot of options out there - if I were you I'd be reading reviews etc. Pop OS is really good though... I've only had a couple of minor issues that were resolved with a quick Googling...
That is a very big problem indeed, employers should be much more mindful of people who want to use Linux in the enteprise (because it works great and represent such amazing cost savings!). Don't get discouraged, they'll arrive to these conclusions eventually.
I went to Linux from windows. After struggling for many years with device drivers especially sound drivers, bluetooth, and some software, I decided to go back believe it or not to MacOs on the latest Apple Si. The quiet is deafening. The stability and no nonsense with drivers and the mac built in software suits me just fine.
I'm considering switching to a Mac as well. I speak this as I had to disable my dual boot and go straight to Windows, and now I'm developing precariously through WSL2. I dont know enough about Linux. One open source project setup and I ruined my Linux boot.
Normal people tend to research before they do. I have never gotten any driver problems with Linux even now with my state of the art PC. Driver problems for me occur on the Windows side of things like my hardware raid or even GPU drivers. Windows needs you to do all kinda things before it works and then still it works crappy, Linux recognizes the hardware raid out of the box and works sublime. As for that GPU driver. My computer could be upgraded from Windows 10 to 11. Okay lets do so. Resulting in a wrong driver version where the GPU 3D capabilities were completely borked. Not even the config screen started up. Took me 2 days to fix the problem and get Windows so far not to update the f'ing wrong driver on every restart. Windows sucks and you know it.
@@Duy23803 He is speaking of linux 2 years ago I'm a programmer but since 1 year ago i only touch the terminal for work and for everyday use everything is just GUI I want to play a game i just install it from steam or heroic, no terminal needed, updates don't need the terminal I want a movie? every service works for me at good quality Want to stream, no problem it just works like in windows Want to view or edit a document? i can use office 360 or google docs or any other office suite like only office which open the documents just fine Web pages that don't work on linux is not because of linux, is just the page is blocking linux on purpose
Proton isn't the second coming of Christ. It will never give you equal performance, a compatibility layer just can't do that. I don't think it'll ever be perfect for all games either, there's just too many variables. Unless developers start making native Linux ports that don't suck balls, gaming on Linux will never be equal.
@@plebisMaximus you're right, it's not the same performance: in many cases proton makes the windows game runs quicker on Linux than on windows :) Look it up!
@@juusomaenpaa7236 I dual booted windows with Ubuntu and Ubuntu distros like peppermint and Pop Os but was unimpressed. I finally found Fedora and I love it and now windows is gone.
Started running Linux not because of any reason mentioned but because I read what Snowden said and realized that a lot of essay to use on Windows was in exchange for my privacy.
11:17 "Anti-Big Tech" pretty much addresses this. I wouldn't be surprised if he brought up Linux proponents being opposed to data sharing/privacy breach elsewhere in the video too
I fell for those Linux Elitists back around 2015-16 and wanted to switch to Linux full-time for those ideological reasons you mentioned at the end. But I ended up going on-&-off about that whole thing for the next six years. A couple incidents where I wanted to wipe my Linux installations had resulted in a ruined life of mine. The first was where I wiped the GRUB bootloader from my Windows drive, and made an angry livestream asking people how to "unbrick" my computer. The second incident (which took place only a couple months later!) was where I hastily re-formatted my Linux drive back to a blank partition... wiping most of my life's past projects from existence! Finally, in early 2021, after trying Linux one last time, me being unable to record & play at the same time in Audacity (probably just an issue with the audio drivers) has gotten me to make an oath to NEVER use Desktop Linux EVER AGAIN, and every time I even THINK about giving it another try, I'd stop myself and tell myself, "You SWORE!" But then, over a month after this video's upload, I hypocritically went back by buying a Steam Deck, which ran Linux-based SteamOS.
1st and 2nd one is very clearly your fault, 3rd one is a pulseaudio issue, nowadays you should switch to pipewire so you can record and play while open up audacious (tested with obs). What distro did you use?
@@middyjohn Mostly Manjaro & Mint (the latter because it's supposed to be more stable). And come to think of it, I think one of the times I gave up on Linux was when I couldn't use my Xbox controller in Kodi there, but I could do so on Windows! I legit raged at that!
@@AvidSonicFan we all been there😅, cant comment on those 2 tho, manjaro update broke my system a few years back and mint was my first distro (never turn back). linux has been very daily drivable these days, been windowless since nov last year. For stable (and still keep up with latest versions), I would recommend endeavourOS or fedora. I still keep windows VM for pdfs, rom decrypting and other small stuff. Just don't expect to get roblox working ootb
I feel like a better reason for developers to use linux is because developers can actually take advantage of the fine-grained control that linux offers. Linux being Unix-based is a small fraction of the reason compared to this.
Yes and no. A huge reason that developers use Linux is just because most cloud infrastructure runs on Linux so it's easier to interop with on a Linux system and compile for on a Linux system. A lot of us generally prefer Linux for the reason that you suggest, but it's not the primary reason that most developers use it.
developers is such a generic word that this really doesn't apply depending on what you're developing. Are you developing cloud applications, eg Salesforce? Linux literally implies no advantages over Windows.
@@yuzzo92 correct, I am implying/assuming developers would have a higher understanding of computer science than your average layman; if there's a more elquent term for that feel free to let me know
@@sunglow9835 i realize now that i worded my comment terribly and it sounded completely different compared to what i actually wanted to mean. Rephrasing it better: Today developers work on such a diversified environment that it's not necessarily applicable that they would get benefits from using a linux environment. The development industry has branched so much that today we may not even speak of fullstack development in the ordinary sense anymore, .NET was a major player years ago, Java too, and while they're still massive, other platforms/products have shown up in the meantime. I have an old schoolmate that works with WSL and it's a literal requirement for his development job if not even using Linux directly, while for me, working on something else entirely, Windows is a necessity and actually implies several advantages compared to using other OS as a base for development. And keep in mind that both me and him develop web applications, albeit of two entirely different types. Very often the relevance of Linux is greatly exagerated because of how relevant Linux actually is on web development. But software development in general is SO vast that at the end of the day, no matter how the web is getting more and more relevant in our daily lives, it still remains a portion of a much larger whole.
Just switched to mainly use Linux about 6 months ago out of pure curiosity. After using Windows for years, I was confused after about a day or 3, but since I started to switch to it after familiarizing my self by using a VM inside Windows first, I've had an easier time transitioning. I just keep a Windows 11 OS that's on another SSD because of Photoshop and Fruity Loops. What's good with FOSS is that bugs can actually be usually fixed after just about a day or 2 (it takes longer some times, but hey. devs made those for free without even asking for your personal data) and because a lot of people have eyes on the source code, they have multiple ways of fixing them. The drawback of them being FOSS is that, some times, their GUI does not look that nice. Also, if you like customizing your desktop, you're going to have a field day with the abundance of available and customizable themes. The terminal is not that scary, just don't use "root" if you don't have to. Admittedly tho, you're right about the simple things that just works on Windows or Mac can be cumbersome to make work with Linux. In my case, I've had trouble making my PC display the battery level of my bluetooth devices that are currently connected. Took me like a few days to make it work. But, at the end of the day, if you think about it, it's not Linux's fault for not having some appropriate drivers for devices right out of the bat. I mean, most manufacturers make devices with Windows and Mac as their priority.
@@HeathenHacks Nice! Also forgot Krita and Inkscape on the visual side, and Renoise on the musical production side (although Renoise is not free, it is awesome and these guys are working really hard).
wonderful video essay. i use windows for certain apps and games but my main driver is Fedora. Linux is very underrated, best thing about it is it runs on everything.
Linux user here. I have been using linux for like 6 years now. The video is good and I agree with/understand most of your points, although I do not believe linux decreases your productivity compared to other operating systems. You usually only have to deal with drivers for printers and Nvidia gpus. Almost everything else, including most wifi cards work out of the box. No need to download lots of drivers if you are building your own pc. Many common tasks such as web browsing, moving files, email or updating software can be done without ever touching the command line. I installed Linux Mint on my parents and grandparents computers when windows stopped working and they have not had many linux specific issues. You don't even have to get rid of windows to use linux. You can very easily keep windows and switch between operating systems by rebooting. All you have to is select the keep windows option in the installer, which is the default.
To me a command line is a great feature for beginners because when there is something complicated to do instead of watching a 15min tutorial on RUclips and searching through menus you can just copy paste a few commands and that's it
I learned how to use a computer on Linux and I can't switch to windows. My pc has never crashed on my even if I leave it on for weeks, I can use word but I just use Libre office. The main reason I stay on Linux is that the user experience is so much better. There are diffrnt desktop environments that allow you to completely change how you use your pc.
@@accountid9681 In theory they're all the same but some are more reliant on tinkering than others. So it is important to understand which OS OP is using
In Germany the Govt in Munich switched to Linux to save cost. That experiment was stopped after just 1 year. The reason was simply that they could not find a company offering the service to keep all the desktops working. Companies and Govt need service contracts, without them any IT is useless to them. A person who does HR can not start looking at some forums to get something working on Linux.
Privacy and less intrusive is a good point to mention as a comparison to the competition. From personal experience, I think Linux comes with a good set of software out of the box and more for free. The flexibility to change your UI is amazing and personal as to hardware compatibility, breathing new life into reusable old machines (printers are a problem though). If computer companies offered Linux as a pre installed option to the general population and companies, that would turn the development a bit in favour. Schools should introduce it to students and we will see more software running through a web interface that will change traditional ways of running/using software. Recently I lost my Windows system and very quickly went Linux, and it took a few days to adapt but continued with graphics, sound and video editing. Even word-processing was a little weird but it's pretty powerful. Inkscape is very impressive as I'm a illustrator user... I don't feel the need to go back unless there is a feature from a windows app that's a blocker.
Oh that's very true! XP is by far my favorite version of windows. Rock stable, does what it is supposed to. No ads. I fancied windows 7 for a while but went back to XP coz of stability issues. But then I had to move on coz the 64bit era was approaching
The reason why I feel Linux is better is because of the open source nature of most distros and applications allowing a much more diverse variety of people to innovate upon the technology. As a KDE Plasma user, it's really nice to have significantly more intuitive features that you wouldn't think about but are very happy to find, such as moving windows by holding the Meta key without touching the title bar. I'm still aware that Linux isn't for everyone yet, but it's a nice refreshing experience after using Windows for many years.
I'm Plasma lover as well. The balance between beautiful default vs customability just feels right. This new version with feature resizeable start menu is awesome. I didn't know I would like it.
Meta+LeftClickDrag to move windows and Meta+RightClickDrag to resize are such good features. Not sure which WM I first encountered it in. But I don't really want to use a WM/DE that doesn't have it any more.
It was about 3 years ago when COVID broke out. I started to working from home. I had an old PC at home and it was very slow running Windows 10. Luckily I learned Linux Mint online. I managed to get used to it and it works blazingly fast. Last year I went back to office and switched on my Windows 10 again. Booting up took a few minutes. I remember I said to myself "WHY THE WAITING?"
Yeah my Linux system boots up in 1.777 seconds. My PC is over 10 years old too so it's not even that fast. Booting taking minutes would drive me crazy.
The main advantage of Linux is its customizability. It's up to everyone to decide whether it's worth investing weeks of their time to "slightly" improve their experience and efficiency in the long term. I say slightly because to average user Windows and Mac experience is really good. It can get better if you customize your system for your specific tasks but that's it. It's only for people who want or need to do specialized tasks where Windows and Mac get inconvenient compared to Linux.
There are many things that "just works" on linux without customization that you'd need complex setup on windows/mac, especially things for software development. ssh, gcc, docker to name a few. Even if you did get these to run on win/mac, it's often slower and lacks in feature. Docker for example requires virtualization to run on mac/windows which slows it down. Also g++/clang++ on mac doesn't support latest features like -fconcepts, and there are no workaround as far as I know. macos xcode is a pain in the ass to work with, and I don't hear a lot of good stories about wsl either.
The average user who thinks it's good is thinking that because they don't know any better. I used to own a Mac. Would get sent weird emails by a co-worker, I would delete them. 2years later you would see some terrible photo. I never did find out where that stuff was saved. Then I went back to windows. At least the file system has some sense of order but I stated playing with raspberry Pis one day I looked up how to tell if you are hacked. I wasn't hacked but once I saw how many people were talking to my machine when I wasn't trying to talk to anybody and all of those people worked for Microsoft I didn't like it. Then as I was investigating that I heard somebody say I own the hardware on my computer but I don't own the software. The software I paid extra for is not owned by me ? Fuck that. Linux from that day forward If you pay for a finite amount of data from your ISP telemetry can screw you
@@seanfaherty Yeah there's many good reasons to use Linux but average Joe just doesn't care enough about privacy or control to make the switch. Convenience is the most important metric when it comes to basically anything nowadays.
@@cubiss1273And the lack of the unique selling point. No matter what angle I see people take on this, it's always "Linux can do what Windows can, just as well or even better" which does not make it unique. Where it improves, it's largely in the domain only an IT hobbyist will appreciate, but where it's sold short is where the rest of society truly put the value. If there was one thing, one single thing about Linux that would be valuable to an average customer that Windows just couldn't emulate, then maybe... but not before that happens.
Once I lost my data, because my computer was hijacked. On the next day I installed Linux, and I never had a problem since. And there is no support? The Linux community is very very helpful!
Although I do agree that in terms of being user friendly, Linux probably lags behind - I would like to add that many Linux distros nowadays are focusing more and more on it, some have gotten amazing at it… I recently switched to Pop OS from windows and ngl I love Linux now. That Linux distro just works out of the box. My iPhone even syncs up automatically to the laptop using KDEConnect. The funny thing is that I used to use more of the command line in windows cause GUI was extremely slow to load, but on Linux I barely ever open it for everyday use 😂😅 Cool video tho 🙌
I find it interesting how the author avoids the fact that both Apple and Microsoft are bloated do to spyware key loggers and other anti privacy features.
I am using Linux from 1 year , at the very beginning , it was very difficult for me to install packages of softwares , the terminal commands, but now I'm used to it , currently learning networking on linux , now i'm comfortable with that
So 1992 or so? I started in 1993 I think, would just compile my entire Linux install from scratch. So much fun. But these days I just use Windows (though my server software can run on either Windows or Linux).
The other groups using Linux are extending the life cycles of older machines. Also, hobbyists and tinkerers. I think the rise of one board computers like Raspberry Pi, and eventually Linux smartphones like Pinephone, Pinephone Pro, and Librem5, are powerful little mini PC machines that run Linux. I ran a Manjaro Linux desktop, with a USB type C dongle, attaching a HDMI monitor, a USB keyboard, USB-C power, with external speakers through the headphone jack. This experimental setup ran Firefox browser, then Libre Office with a simultaneous terminal running htop, which didn't max out the resources, surprisingly. The point is it's possible, not yet easy, to run a typical session off a Pinephone pro, right now. I had at least a similar difficulty running running DEX from my Samsung device, but enjoy a pure GNU Linux desktop experience far better. I believe this kind of experience will become common, as PI computers can be had cheaply, even for those of moderate means. It can revolutionize and begin to equalize educational opportunities for those of modest means.
I started researching Linux late last year when I got tired of how slow Windows 10 was on my pc. Early this year I took the plunge and replaced Windows with Ubuntu. I was pleasantly surprised. Not too long after I switched to Zorin 16 since my family liked having the layout of the desktop closer to Windows whereas I preferred the customization.
you'd be surprised how much wokeness there is in some open source projects: fedora, Firefox, gnome. linux journalism (take a look at lunduke who report on these issues very well)
I tried really hard to switch to Linux. Unfortunately, I ended up returning to windows because of peripherals. My docking station for my laptop/desk setup did not work well with ubuntu, even though there were "ubuntu drivers" available. They never worked. Hopefully this changes in the future.
using any operating system other than Windows just leads to a giant undertaking of finding workarounds. Just use Windows and don't worry about finding workarounds for everything
When things don't work in Linux you file a bug report with the project and work with them to resolve the issue. You don't just sit idly by and wait for the next version hoping there's a fix. If you don't tell them there's a problem they don't know to fix it. I've had bugs fixed within hours of me filing a report. Pretty good service. But I'll do stuff like send debugging logs. Which really helps devs out. When I file a report there's a genuine bug.
When talking about Linux & gaming I kept expecting to hear SteamOS mentioned, but it wasn't. I know it's mostly used on the Steam Deck, but there are efforts underway to make it a viable desktop alternative to Windows. Just for clarity, I haven't used it, but may give it a try at some point in the future.
@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive I don’t know about mods but online play is a pain. It’s good to test if a game works there but not every game works out of the box. If you play Fortnite good luck trying to make it run but Apex or Rocket League works great.
I think the real issue is compatibility with some of the most commonly used applications on home computers: Microsoft Office and games. There are all sorts of workarounds, but none of them work well.
Additionally, Linux & MacOS aren't compatible with older programs. With Linux & MacOS, you would probably need to find tons of workarounds to run a 10 year old program. Meanwhile, with Windows, you can somewhat easily run a program from 1995, with little to no workarounds.
yup. as someone going into an industry where microsoft office is the standard, i simply cant afford to use stuff like open office or libre office and risk a file getting corrupted or otherwise messed up when i or a client tries to open it. people in the comments keep saying 'i havent used office in years' which, good for you i guess? and what are the people that use it daily supposed to do? im guessing most would suggest a double boot system with having either OS on an SSD, but doesnt that defeat the purpose of avoiding the problems with windows like having to pay for a license? i might as well just pirate windows and be done with jt
Ideological reasons seriously? When Microsoft suddenly declares that "Your device will not be supported", that's when we need Linux... Especially poor developers like us...
Have been using Linux as my primary OS since 2001, Suse 7.2. When OpenSuse Tumbleweed rolled out i switched to it, for rolling release updates, and it has been steady as rock. Windows - at work and for gaming. Currently running Tumbleweed on my EliteBook 835 G8 Ryzen 5850U/32GB/1TB. I use it for, among others, idealogical reasons, and it is superior if you want to make it so - security, privacy and choice. :)
People need Windows because of the programs on this platform, which allows everyone to have what they want, like and need on their PC. Nobody needs Linux and that's why it's not used. It's as simple as that. Each operating system has its own niche for providing the most cost-effective solution and Windows has dominated the desktop market for decades because of this. The failure of Linux on the desktop is a marketing issue, not a technical one.. Internally, Microsoft has used several operating systems since it bought Hotmail in 1997 (it ran under BSD) because there was no reason to change. The use of Linux at Microsoft is mainly due to the hybrid solutions that the company develops and uses - after all, it develops programs for Windows, Mac, Android, iOS and Linux.
Also, the majority of my fellow software developers program on Macs. Some use Linux, but my entire organization (an astronomical observatory) has the staff almost entirely on Mac, with Linux VMs for servers. We have about 25 developers and we all use MacBook Pros.
@@xybersurferYeah. We want to work on Unix machines that can easily be carried around, especially since sometimes we might have to do some emergency investigating at night if something goes wrong. While Linux isn't technically a Unix, we use it a lot, but the ITOps department doesn't want to support Linux laptops: they only support specific desktop distributions. None of us want to work on Windows and the ITOps department doesn't support Windows at all.
I was once a normal windows user. I switched to linux this week and I've never had a better experience using a computer. I use a lot of stuff that only works on windows sadly, so what I've done is I've got a windows virtual machine for my games, MS Office and Adobe CC. I was already comfortable using the windows command line, so switching over to the unix command line wasn't that difficult. If you have the right hardware to do virtualisation, it's not that difficult to do, and it's very much worth it. What I won't ever do is push linux onto someone who really shouldn't be using it as their main OS. It's never a good idea. One day I'm sure linux will be ready for most consumers, but that day is not today, I don't even expect that day to come within the next 10 years.
Wowie zowie! somebody who Actually see both sides of the coin IN their comment! And yeah! I agree! most people doesn't want to bother with the details of how things work and just want to get things they want done! And windows, more often than not, does the second thing in spades! and it's also the most common OS to teach! and that's the sad reality that we don't want to see (but I freaking KNOW!), *aparently*; Linux is NOT for everyone! Sure! it' has huge advantages over Windows in many areas; but not everyone is savvy and/or concious enough to figure out that you PROBABLY should, for example, back up everything in case you accidentally erase your entire disk because of ONE typo on your scripts! or are willingly and valiantly going adobe and beyond......to find out how to prevent your Linux distribution to clog your HDD with Giganourmous Log files just because your default BIOS settings SUCKS for your Linux Wi-Fi Driver. the first one is probably, a common fear or ocurrence, give or take...the second....first hand experience that I needed to take out of my chest and probably one of the many, MANY things you SHOULD expect to live with.
@@MasterMarioMX Well it's nice to know there are some understanding linux users out there. First, some of the better programs I want are on PC, or have more improved versions that are just on the PC side. None of my goodies are in linux. And I am so tired of lack of really great software for OSX that is PC-based. Second problem is Mac OSX just works, unlike PC where things start glitching because you have something else open OR a recent KB update messed you up but you don't realize it until you realize you have some stuff is missing. Who has that kind of time? Either unmarried people or young folks or those already steeped in computer knowledge. Which brings up the third item, not really a problem, just something I would like to again point out. Anyone notice how many (linux users) say they got into it while young? Hello? Having years more experience and time to iron and out understand errors and what affects what - you build up a knowledge base that those that have to go to work and take care of family and stuff at home just don't have time to plunk around to figure out. Either it works or it doesn't, that's why I like OSX. Fourth thing is just the computer industry in general. Apple has been dragging the computer industry around by the nose, forcing huge changes that ripple out for several years at a time (i.e. x64 and now it's M1). You have 3 big players: Google, Apple and MS and probably Samsung. All with their ecosystems that some of which might be handy, but we hate being locked into a brand - much less the machine it works on - and all the datamining on us and extra bloatware toys they issue thinking we don't know what's going on! And that seems to be the crux. There needs to be a choice of generic brand machines that we can load our OS of choice and software of choice. That way, competition would help software in private sector, the software biggies would still profit from the business/education sector and offering private services, and individuals would get to select their machine and parts of choice. Problem is, in the past, anything something like that 'starts' it ends up costing us tons more, and they get all the tax breaks (thinking landline phones vs cell phones here) and charge higher fees to make up the old slack plus some. Fifth, hackers learned to hack learning linux. That does not make me feel secure.
It doesn't matter how perfect mac os might be. I refuse to support a company that has destroyed productivity on laptops by changing the arrow keys, home/end/pgup/pgdn keys look. This has made everything that isn't a heavy gaming laptop with an hour tops of battery life very miserable to use. (this is why I'm sticking with a 2015 Lenovo which was the last kind of non-gaming laptop with a keyboard that isn't miserable)
@@elijahsokoni7997 LibreOffice (usually included with Linux unless you select the "minimal" install) has more/less the same level of compatibility, depending on the complexity (scripting, macros) of your documents.
Ironic that Linux is the preferred os for developers yet they have significantly less Games and software than Macos, a Os famed for not having alot of at least the former.
Linux desktop OSes have come a long way in the last couple of years, I’m pleasantly surprised. From what I’ve seen on channels like The Linux Experiment I’m actually envious of some of the features these desktop UIs have that Mac or Windows don’t. Also the list of games that can run on Linux is ever increasing thanks to the Steam Deck. I just bought an extra SSD drive so I could install Pop OS as I would like to move away from Mac and Windows that I use for work and gaming respectively
If you have a 4k monitor and want to set the fractional scaling, you’re more or less out of luck, also i have to say that The Linux Experiment only shows the good sides of Linux, but once you start using it, it‘s a whole lot different. Also, if you have an Nvidia card, you will not have a nice experience too, also screensharing/recording on Wayland sucks… Once you use it you’ll understand what i mean. Though good luck switching 😊
@@ddavid8888888 - much more UX friendly workspace management, no matter the desktop environment - unmatched stability - proper package manager, by default. - timeshift with btrfs - best snapshot tools to just turn back time, given that windows 10 and 11 seems to be very hit or miss in that department - much faster threading, which also results in copying large amounts of files much better - better customizability, you are not limited to one desktop environment like on windows. tl;dr: Better performance, better stability, better security, and you can fully customize it to your workflow. you are not limited.
@@tamino3777 its currently still not recommended to daily drive wayland. if you use that one, and then complain about issues, thats on you - for nvidia, x11 is generally recommended.
I am using Linux on a daily basis on my personal computer. I love it. Not because of ideology, but because of easy installing and updating, flexibility in UI and for its amazing performance. Linux surely IS superior over windows for personal use, if it wasn't for software support. But that's not linux's fault, is it? You can give me 1 example of a benefit of windows over linux that is not software support. I'll wait.
i got 1. changing audio output without needing to unplug another audio device from the pc. took me almost a month scratching my head looking for a solution in an arch forum (i tried to daily drive garuda and zorin during this time) while experiencing +- 30 fps performance penalty in dota 2 that is native on linux itself figured it just wasnt worth it and went back to windows
Precisely. All of the examples used in the last section of "things Linux is not good at" are things that were never designed for Linux (or were actively sabotaged by the developers like the Microsoft Office Suite is). This boils down to software support. Ironically, if the roles are reversed and you try getting something designed for Linux running on Windows or MacOS, you're going to have a MUCH harder time of it. Also, I (personally) think it's rather unfair of the creator of the video to make the blanket statement that Linux doesn't have good support. Linux has excellent support!... just not from the manufacturers. If hardware developers made drivers for Linux and software developers made Linux versions of their products (which for games made in some engines is as simple as clicking the "Export for Linux" button), we would be having a much different conversation.
Maybe it's user error on my part, but I faced an issue where performing an update on Linux would sometimes break things, mostly due to config files being overwritten. Windows updates can sometimes cause problems too, but it seems to be more rare. Another thing is that it seems that in Linux there are always 10+ ways to achieve a goal (for example having a process run at startup), with it not always being easy to determine which is the best option. This can however also be viewed as a positive, as it provides flexibility.
I've been using Linux for about 3 years, I started, just tinkering with a Raspberry Pi I bought, then decided to use it as a proper desktop. I do like windows, but the customisation and the quickness and efficiency of the Terminal plus Scripting, just give Linux that edge.
I have used Linux for a long time now, not to save money, however, that was the initial motivation behind it. I use it for learning programming and sysadmin work. I also have more fun with Linux as opposed to Windows. There's no downside as even the file system is managed in a more sane manner. Maintenance is not as important as it was in Windows.
Eventually Microsoft will probably have to start using Linux for its file manager. NFTS really sucks. To many of us it is a tool to get something done, not something to have "fun" with. For those of us, Linux sucks. Different strokes for different folks.
I use Windows at work, but at home I've been using Linux for ten years. It matters a lot what linux distro you use. For example Linux Mint is very easy to use. When using MInt, command line as rarely needed as in Windows.
yes, most hate that get to linux is simply of people starting are getting wromg distro nowadays many things are just magical in linux... i hard way more issues on windows system that my linux system
I used to work in a depo repairing lenovo computers. We would use mint to quickly test the functions of different things like the camera and quickly check how much battery life there was and after the repair we couldn't send it to quality for testing without 25% available. I never had a instance were mint didn't work strait off. My only issue I have is with the admin password. I want to change it to secure the os and am not able. Also came with a nice bundle of programs that people like when getting a new os and requires very little resources and is light weight.
I actually use the license free version of Windows, but that one has a watermark on the bottom right part of the screen with a short text tutorial on how to activate windows. Apart from that there is no mayor drawback and it works since 5 years.
the drawback is Microsoft harvesting and distributing all your personal information, while not having the freedom to study, redistribute, modify and share your modifications of the OS as you see fit
I work as a local computer consultant, mainly helping retirees with their computer woes. Sometimes when they buy new machines, they donate their old ones to me. Often, they are really old, and are running crippled with Win7 and 4gb RAM. When I get these machines, I wipe the HD and install Linux Mint whilst watching the news with my wife. I am constantly amazed how Mint puts new life into these machines, and how well Mint recognizes webcams, network adapters, wifi adapters, soundcards, video drivers etc. Occasionally I have an old SSD HD lying around, so I install one of those, and then these old machine actually become snappy. Unfortunately, they are hard to sell, even for $50 or less, because they are not "mainstream".
Windows is meant for us average users. And it will incorporate more and more Unix like structures. Just to have or to own a proprietary product you have to write the lines of code by yourself or your company.It's also very helpful to know to use the command line on DOS /Windows
I am a backend engineer and I use Linux everyday - both on my official laptop and in multiple servers where I have to run my code. Most of my personal works are also done in Linux (Now you have google docs, sheets etc. that run directly on your browser 😁). But with WSL2, many of my colleagues are now switching to Windows. WSL provides you with a Linux within your Windows laptop. I think this is a good initiative by Microsoft. You get the best of both worlds.
Well, agreed WSL2 makes it very easy to test your linux builds (as .NET Core apps can run in Linux ) but you can also deploy them to a docker container to test with. I'm a Windows user trying out Linux and possibly switching to Rider. What did they like better about windows? Was it Visual Studio that pulled them in?
Also, I do like Linux for its stability and its opening the curtain, but, as the video describes, most people don't feel comfortable enough to mess with something that feels too prohibited. Even searching the .minecraft folder in appdata looked like wizardry to me when I was 12. What Linux needs is a big laptop building company company in a strained enough relationship with Microsoft to be willing to jump ship and distribute a Windows look-alike based on Linux, using much of Linux open source software, so that a big enough chunk of people get on with Linux. Linux needs a commercial enough version (which there are) but also needs an OEM that ships their machine with Linux on it to the general public. Also, the software is so fragmented and disconnected that only the kernel and some software would benefit from the enlarged user-base. Just the fact that Windows is pre-shipped with every major computer (except MacOS, but they're another story) is a big factor. The biggest brake on such a shift is, in my opinion, the elitist approach some people in the Linux community have. Not only aren't they happy that a bunch of normies would invade their elitist OS, but they wouldn't like how Linux would have to "dirty its hands" in regard to open source stuff and big companies support. The Linux community seems to me like a tribe of ooga booga people listening to the occasional ooga booga RUclipsr preaching how they are the crusaders, the righteous people following the right gospel, instead of a group of people using the same tool, like all mechanics use a wrench and a screwdriver. This is my unpopular opinion, and my TED finishes here
I have tried switching from windows to linux but I've unfortunately been the few with the short end of the stick. I quickly learned and adjusted to command line and how the OS works, but since I build my own PC for gaming it wasn't able to take full advantage of all my specs. I am also a music producer and pretty much all the music software I use didn't work with Linux and ones that did just weren't worth it. Linux was fun for a time tho, just wish there was more support for the things I actually do.
It's really a "chicken and the egg" issue - once enough people are using Linux as their desktop / laptop driver, software developers will follow user demand. Desktop Linux today bears little resemblance to its predecessors 25 years ago, anymore than Windows 10/11 resembles Windows 3.1 or DOS.
@curtvaughan2836 Yeah, whenever the devs make my Music workstation compatible with Linux it'll be perfect for me. The gaming bit on Linux seems to be all right for now.
@@curtvaughan2836 Reaper or Bitwig are excellent Linux-native DAWs and most Windows VSTs can work on Linux using yabridge. And there's a good number of native Linux VSTs. Also VCV Rack is an amazing virtual eurorack system and is available for free.
Yeah, I really only play Minecraft, but the DAW Ableton Live as well as many big software synths like Nexus and Sylenth1 are holding me back from fully switching to Linux from macOS.
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When Linux proponents talk about software being "free" they mean something far deeper than you don't have to pay for it. They mean you are free to do as you wish with it & when running on your hardware is free of outside masters. Most Linux proponents would not call Chrome or Android free as they both come with tendrils of Google's control sending data back to Google against their users wishes.
Too bad dat shit is meant for keyboard hypebeasts and pc chads. I'm kinda fuckin stupid and have struggled to run the shit.
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@@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070 dont worry about that, it doesnt mean you are stupid, since it took you more than a few clicks (if you used a starter distro) that only means your hardware is mostly overengineered for windows users in mind and only masochism will drive you forward when using that hw with that os
@@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070 I mean a lot of distros are basically 100% point and click. Like they include menus for common commands like system updates and installing drivers so you can use them with 0 knowledge of the command line.
Also if you can't use a search engine Windows is also quite cumbersome, I have to time and again look up fixes for bugs in programs and games on there, and even sometimes use MS's own command line using batch scripts to do things.
@@celestialsylveon6453 This. Both require a search engine to troubleshoot, it's natural. In my personal experience, Windows is actually *harder* to troubleshoot because a lot of information is incomplete or cryptic, whereas Linux often has better community support, not to mention Linux's excellent manpage system.
Windows tangles every detail in unnecessary red tape with too many loose ends to easily untangle; Linux is an old country road with potholes and few buildings - let alone people - to come by. It may not be for everyone but I'm glad to have a toolkit in my trunk when the car fails because I don't need to rely on filling out form B225-99/BBQ before actually getting help.
What is funny is that my high-school was running all their Windows PC's via a Linux Server... The server UI broke and all the computers were booting up to a user command line. They had me fix the issue, and what was even more funny is that all our PC's were not licensed.
How did it break outta curiosity
lol, they cheaped out and ran everyone on thin clients? oof
School be pirating
Our school likes to overcharge us for simple shit here, they renovated the computer lab recently and bruh they be doing the same thing
think client is cheap, and don't need to activate OS as whenever start it start with fresh
As for the Wifi drivers: It's not that Linux doesn't want to support certain pieces of hardware, but rather that certain hardware manufacturers are often not interested in providing upstream Linux drivers. If you have an Intel, Qualcomm/Atheros or Mediatek Wifi chipset, chances are good that they work out of the box. Nearly all Linux distros ship with Wifi drivers for most of these vendors' cards and then some.
" certain hardware manufacturers are often not interested in providing upstream Linux drivers". Yeah, they are not interested to invest money in a thing which will never be profitable.
@@temp50 In the context of drivers (and especially Wi-Fi drivers), that's just stupid because they're isolating themselves from a very lucrative cloud computing market.
@@VivekYadav-ds8oz It is not that easy. Have you ever heard of vertical market segmentation? If a company is interested in the server market, they will most probably provide support for linux for their server-grade hardware because that is profitable for them in that segment.
If the same company also has interest in the consumer market, it most probably will conenctrate on Windows drivers for their consumer-grade hw since that OS is dominant in the consumer segment. They won't put effort into a linux driver stack if only 1% of they customers would benefit of it.
So conclusion is: buy server-grade hw for your consumer needs if you want to have (a good) linux support.
@@temp50 Linux already has support for a lot of the standards to support the latest Wi-Fi hardware. However manufacturers are manufacturers and always bundle their own BS or use their own proprietary standards. The reason they just work on Windows is that the drivers are preloaded and installed by the manufacturer before-hand to save you time. Linux has no idea what hardware you're going to approach it with before you even get to it.
If you used a modern day laptop or computer, I'm sure Linux would work perfectly especially as recently OEMs have been leaning towards hardware support and actually doing things properly.
Yeah i didn't find my wifi driver 😫 , i couldn't even figure out which driver is missing
A few years back when I was a student, I took a laptop from the early 2000s, wiped the harddrive and installed a lite version of Linux. It was amazing as this laptop was saved and became viable for the purposes I required as a student.
meanwhile the videos: proceeds to buy expensive iPad.
@@imibuks-replit not really it just said most people will buy expensive ipad because like windows it just works. but it wasn't wrong in that case not every one is going to care to use linux that is the bottomline.
I bought a netbook for 20.00 that I used to take notes at college and put Linux on. It did not run great, but it ran. It originally came with Windows XP and I suppose it ran O.K. With Windows 10 it ran like crap. Linux did fine because I was only doing one thing with it. At home I had a Windows computer that I could buy almost any software for. I edit photos. The software that I use runs on Apple or Windows, but does not run on Linux. There is photo software for Linux, but it is very complicated and runs like crap. I guess it all depends on what you are doing that matters. For what I was doing Linux was the best thing. For what I do now, it is not. Before I went to college I had a business. I know, a bit backwards. Very rarely do you hire somebody that has not already worked somewhere else. That there are many versions pretty well works against Linux in business. You want your software to be exactly the same as this person used the last place they worked. You do not want to spend a week training a person on a version of Linux that they did not see at their last job. That gets real expensive real fast.
I even have my original Dell Windows XP laptop. Works like a damn charm. The keyboard is worn out and that's pretty much it. I can watch my old DVD's if needed.
To be fair, you don't need to touch the command line on many popular Linux distros in this era. The vast majority of users the OS is basically a glorified bootloader for a web browser. Linux is on the rise; the fact that 5% of desktop users are on Linux is insane compared to years ago. As for no need, I think that is changing as Microsoft has gotten more and more aggressive with bloat, ads, and political messaging default in the OS.
True that. It's harder to find a distro that doesn't come with either Gnome or KDE and Firefox/Chromium preinstalled than one that does.
When I first used it the linux user demographic was about 1-2%.
If we count Android, that number goes waaay up.
Windows phone OS was a bigger flop than the Zune 😂
Its gotten up to 5%? that sounds great i thought it was around 2.3%
While that may be true, the premise of the video is comparing two different use cases. Microsoft, Amazon and the like use Linux for backend services, where Linux truly shines. Linux desktop can be a bit of a dumpster fire. Personally, I think apple and Microsoft have the desktop market locked down, and it isn’t going anywhere. The “year of the Linux desktop” is a pipe dream in my personal opinion.
That few percentage still doesn't mean anything. Android does not count as its designed to be friendly to the less tech savy and comes with an environment provided by Google that has so many apps and games specifically for it. Linux OS is free, but most people in the developed world still pirate Windows as all their other programs they pirate too are for Windows. With Microsoft 11 not supporting certain hardware due to the Trusted Platform Module (TPM) many will have to install Linux or throw away their computers and purchase a new one. So what will happen in the future should people in developing countries switch to Linux or continue to use Windows 10 after the updates end in 2025 could be the deciding factor in pushing OS martket share of Linux.
@@spross216 Have you ever used Linux for a week or so? Ei sat down, picked the distro you felt suited you best, installed it and went to work? I mention this in another post, but it is quite easy to exchange MS Office for Open Office, Google Docs or something similar. It's also quite easy to use Photopea instead of Photoshop, Davinci Resolve as opposed to Premiere, while Chromium and/or Firefox install quite easily on pretty much any browser. Proton makes the majority of WIndows only games run perfectly fine on Linux, and a *LOT* of games have Linux versions to begin with.
Anyway, I'm very, very curious as to what you mean by _"Dumpster fire."_ If you're going by trying it once, or even worse, simply hearsay, then I can only suggest you give it a shot. I mean is every Android OS a dumpster fire? They're pretty much all built on a Linux Kernel. Is the Steamdeck a dumpster fire, as again, that is 100% Linux using Proton for games that don't have a native Linux version, which again, many do.
So hearsay or experience? Even more importantly, are you willing to give it another go if your first experience was rough? If you aren't into fiddling and are happy with WIndows I understand, but if you want a faster less intrusive user-end experience, they I suggest trying it out again. A *LOT* of things have changed over the last year, never mind the last decade. Between cell phones, tablets, the Nvidia Shield (which was an *INSANELY* good gaming tablet and turned into _"The Switch"_ after a poor release back in 2016 if I am not mistaken, and now the Steamdeck, Linux could *ABSOLUTELY* see a bump to 15% of regular home users. Especially with Microsoft insisting on _upgrading_ to Windows 11. I hate these upgrades. Win 10 is working _fine_ when i use it. I have no need for Windows 11 to force me to go through literally thousands of lines to uncheck hundreds of them to stop their absurd data harvesting. I don't even care about the information itself (as far as I know at least). Them knowing what I prefer to eat or what I buy online doesn't bug me. Slowing my hardware down and using my bandwidth for it does though.
Lol, Ok, I'm getting off topic. Please explain the dumpster fire and give it another chance (or a first shot as it may be). You may be pleasantly surprised how simple it really is. Heck, you can make a new partition on a drive, then run Linux off a darn USB stick if you don't want to install it on your actual PC (though having a dual boot Linux/Windows PC does come in really handy sometimes).
It wasn't hard for me to switch from windows to linux because I was already using software on windows that had linux versions. If PCs were sold with linux aa pre installed options instead of windows, I bet the non pc building crowd would use it more.
I've heard that was offered at one point by one of the popular PC makers - the Linux computers were $50 cheaper than their Windows counterparts, so most people who didn't understand the difference bought the cheaper options. They later returned their computers and complained about the quality because the kind of people who don't understand what Linux vs Windows means are also the kind of people who can't figure out how to use Linux.
I installed Linux Mint Cinnamon on a spare computer to get used to it. Then when I am ready I can make the switch over.
@@charleshines2142 You can also try a dual boot
@@alexkelley8342then again if you're building a gaming set up, Linux is probably not the best option unless you're a developer. Even office workers sometimes are forced by a company to use Microsoft tools so you can't even use libre office if you wanted to
@@IonizedComa true, I'm remembering this was more of the generic $500ish laptop type of deal
Yes Linux user here. Replaced the iOS on my 2011 MacBook Pro after finding I could no longer watch some streamed content on the Internet. So replaced the OS for Ubuntu, and continue to enjoy a working, supported environment on a very nice bit of hardware. Nice one Linux developers, your contribution is much appreciated👍🙂
ios did not run on your macbook. macos runs on macs.
Leggo putting people to sleep splitting all those hairs
Macbooks are anything but a nice bit of hardware.
Man really said he had iOS on his Macbook
@@MakerManX You get the idea...
Yep, I gave up on Windows completely over a year ago, annoyed by Win10 and the slowness and resource hogging, plus the nagging to go to Win 11.
I surveyed the distros and decided on Linux Mint.
And everything I need is available. Almost all of it was already there after install. A few things were not, mostly some utilities.
It recognized ALL my hardware on this HP laptop, and also recognized some older USB devices that Windows no longer supported. Summary, Linux Mint supported more of my hardware than Windows 10 did.
And LibreOffice, on the install with Mint, does everything I need and some things better.
The laptop doesn't run as hard, fan runs less, and memory is better utilized. It actually has more gadgets with the install than I have ever used on Win10.
I am really missing nothing from Win10 and am not looking back.
Linux even saved me an expensive hardware upgrade.
that is it. If you can run your software, the os is irrelevant. If you need one app that linux can't run. you are out of luck.
The os is just for the background wallpaper and boot
@@akusworld5117 this isn't applicable for everyone, there are virtual machines installed that can run windows only software, but you do not need to suffer every day using windows just cause one program needs it, i won't bend my butt over to one stubborn program... changing whole os just tofit it's needs and discard mine, linux is far better and less infringing on my freedom to use my computer.
Im forced to use Windows for gaming😢, currently dual booting debian and Windows 10
@@AmanTheDisciple me too... game developers will never develop for linux because too few people use it, and people will never use linux because their games don't support it, it's a vicious cycle that I hope would be broken some day
@@louiepooh1510 Thats just defeat the whole purpose of linux as it run native code faster than Windows
5% was what we dreamed about 20 years ago. Linux is still the OS of the technically curious, iconoclast, or those who have special needs. I have lent my machine to non technical types, and they don't even know they are using Linux. As young people become more technically proficient, that 5% will grow, but it will not happen over night.
The problem with young people is that they are not tech savvy, at all. If a software can't be driven by pushing their thumbs onto the screen, they are lost. If a software requires reading a manual, they are lost. A generation of consumers can't maintain the deep knowledge of the previous generation who actually invented and built all they take for granted. UNIX is 50, and wasn't the first OS by any mean. Linux is 30 and was just another UNIX clone when created. We use technology designed by boomers.
"Special needs"
I used Linux in school teaching, presentations, slide shows, documents, spreadsheets, video editing, photo editing, audio editing and so on. I have no problem in what so ever as Linux as my daily driver for productivity. And I don't have to pay anything. I got absolute freedom to use it.
which video editing program did you use? i am on Ubuntu 22.10 and OpenShot doesnt work so please tell me what you used
UPDATE 12th March 2023: i got a new PC with Windows and im too lazy to install Linux again,
@@kar.jahoda i also daily drive, and you will want to try out kden live
@@donzo4784 ok ill try it
@@kar.jahodakdenlive is open source. Or the best option davinci resolve
@@kar.jahoda blender has video editing tool embeded in their software, not just 3d application
Okay, so I'm a pro audio user and I used to use Linux for most of my daily tasks and windows for music production and live performances. There was this one instance where I was just about to start a live show; I booted my computer and it started an auto update. I waited for half an hour but I had a time commitment to the organisers so I decided to stop the update and then booted it up again and oh what a big mistake I had made. My computer would keep BSODing and it caused major interruptions in my event. That was the day when I had enough of this bs. I moved completely to Linux and tried to make all my pro audio software work with Linux, and it runs surprisingly well... You're right to say that Linux works very well for professional use cases, and that's because it does not force a paradigm on you. It's you who decides what the computer does, unlike windows which dictates what you can and can't do, depending upon Microsoft's mood.
Thanks for the video, it was very informative! And I really hope Linux gets better for the average user, so that more people can adopt it and have greater control over their machine.
Thank you for your insight Shayak! Glad the switch to Linux worked out for you
If I may ask was it difficult to get the software working? I know that a lot of audio production software operates on a subscription basis, and thus incorporates a lot of DRM.
Amen, I've heard many such horror stories, and so many straws that finally break the camels' backs. I dont remember exactly what it was for me, but for about 6 months before starting uni I was getting more and more pissy at windows being windows, finally since I started a CS course I had a good reason and started dual booting linux, and from there I just got enchanted. It's quite magical, especially because I chose to install Garuda first, and then two weeks later decided to install arch xD. Its a super nerdy world there but hey, you get everything to work, look great, and have the complete freedom to do whatever, its beautiful.
No matter what OS you are using, you never never ever ever run updates during your production time, especially when you don't have a machine to switch to. No production machine should be on auto update.
"It's you who decides what the computer does, unlike windows which dictates what you can and can't do, depending upon Microsoft's mood. "
Amen brother. Its unreal to me how many people are just ok being told what they can or can't do with their own god damn computer. Like, I get it, not everyone can be an expert at everything, but you can't take your car to a mechanic and expect to be able to make an informed decision about your vehicle without having some understanding about how the thing works, same thing with a medical doctor.
You really don't need to know that much about linux to get most of what everyone needs out of a computer.
As for software that doesn't run on Linux, if more people would just give apple and ms the finger, then people would come up with solutions for Linux. As for photoshop, etc, yeah, gimp and other "creative" software might not be as good as the adobe alternative, but its really not that bad. Yeah, it kinda sucks to have to learn how to do the same things in different software, but hell at least you're learning something that can't be taken away from you. As far as adobe is concerned, you don't have any right to any of "their" software even though you're running it on YOUR computer.
Fuck that. If its being ran on my computer, then its mine, and I won't let any legal authority tell me otherwise. I own my computer, not someone else across the country.
You are describing the more minimalistic destrose of Linux. There are distros like Ubuntu and Mint that target the average user and contain applications needed for personal life. Those districts work right out of the box and even contain office competitors.
He just made this video just to catch likes, by saying a ton of crap about Linux and most of it is even nonsense. Installing apps is even more straightforward on Linux since there's a store but he said that "people need to go find them" ???
@@vincenzo3232lol nothing he said is wrong
-most people don’t see windows is or Mac OS as a cost and not “free” since it’s included with computers you buy. So Linux being free isn’t an advantage
-most users don’t use the command line or care. They are just casual users who just want it to work and use it for simple things. it’s like getting a car most people just want to drive it. Just because I want to operate a car doesn’t mean I want to learn to be a mechanic too.
-most users don’t see macOS as full of bloatware. It doesn’t come with Mcafee and abunch of tower big things running in the background slowing it down.
-macOS is polished and mostly “just works”. The fact there are soooo many distros are Linux’s biggest advantage AND disadvantage. People say they like choices but they really don’t. They like comfortable and easy and aesthetically pleasing. The fact I have to search out certain distros that work better at some things than others is unnecessary for most. I just want one that works period. I don’t want to have to search out drivers and use the command line to download things to make it work. Most people just want it to work
@@vincenzo3232 im curious what advantages linux has over specific things i need
games (roblox,minecraft,EA games,epic game store,btd6/other steam games)
discord
and for them to be fully customizable with modded gameplay or others
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY: what tasks can you do specifically with the command line as the video says
and how many hours of learning do you need to install these based off of intutiton. I dont want to learn another coding language to use linux
More bloated than MacOs tbh. For the average user there are no real advantages to use Linux, but only disadvantages.
The disadvantages being the most popular apps do not exist in Linux...Go tell em there is no Photoshop (wtf is Gimp), or even a simple Paint (all linux alternatives are damn weird/buggy). How do I play World of Warcraft? Where is Office?
@@gregpeterson3144 yep linux user just don't get it some coming from windows are mac are used to using programs from windows and mac and most of the softwares don't work out of the box on linux so of course their not going to change and use linux for that reason alone. the more honest linux videos i watch say openly if you like windows there is no need to switch. but add if you like more privacy more control over your os then linux is for you. so there is a switch off a good reason to want to switch then just saying it is better then windows or mac. i think this a better way to go about it but most linux users just want to say it better and the best and that just doesn't work for most people.
As a Software Engineer, I can say that it is totally relatable to use Linux instead of Windows when you are working on Servers/ Over the Cloud applications. Linux gives you much more control over everything and there are a lot of powerful shell applications to use. But when it comes to higher-layered Development, like programming an Android App I prefer to work with Windows. It's like everything: Use the best of both worlds and you are good to go. No OS is the best in every area, after all.
Right on! You make absolutely positive sense.
Use the right tool for the job!
That's why Dual boot is the way to go xD
@@johnyepthomi892 I bought my computer having virtual machines in mind. I originally was going to run Linux in Hyper-V, and I did for a little bit and then I switched to running Linux natively and setting up a Virtual Machine to run Windows when I feel a need for it. I also use the VM to try out other OSes, like FreeBSD.
I have to disagree with the Android app development. I develop Android games and have lost count of how many times my build tool chains break down on Windows (especially because of its stupid filepath's character limit). Once I switched to Linux, all my problems were solved like magic once I switched to Linux. Unless your tool chain based on Visual Studio, Windows is still a horrible choice for programming until this day.
I've been using Linux since I was 8 years old. I'm just now learning how Windows works, but I will always prefer my linux-based, surveillance-free, and free as in beer operating system.
8 holy shit
I first installed *nix on a 386 box when I was like 10 years old. Had no idea what i was doing at first, but it kept my mom from using my computer to check her emails and browse spyware-infested clickbait articles like she used to when my box ran Windows 98 😂
My dad taught me DOS at an early age, I learned my ABC's from a DOS prog he wrote, so I was comfy with CLI even growing up well into the GUI age.
I think it was Gentoo minimal distro. Pretty sure I ended up installing KDE but didn't include it in startup hehe.
Always kept a bootable CD of it with me in high school, every day I'd come home with more NTHashes from the school windows machines to crack, had a dedicated Pentium machine I'd found in a bank dumpster I ran l0phtcrack on 24/7. Ended up rooting the whole multi million dollar school network by 10th grade and the admins working there were none the wiser bc they didn't even consider bootable CDs in their "security" protocols. They thought I spent my lunch periods helping the librarians with computer stuff, but that was only half true. Good times ;)
I like free as in beer and free as in rights.
Nowadays I mostly use my pc for gaming and mining crypto, hence Windows is my main OS, but I like to keep a linux partition for the occasional tomfoolery.
@UCStwjS8zzwNtWemGySETXhw speaking of lack of bloat and efficiency, if you're into z80 stuff there's a new OSS OS out called "Zeal 8-bit OS." The creator has a yt channel and so far only like 1800 subscribers.
It's been a long term goal of mine to find a way to install a z80 Linux port on my graphing calculator lol.
Bruh you look eight right now
And yet here you are commenting on youtube hence handing over your history and browsing habits to Google. 🤷🏻
You missed many points. I tried Linux but switched to Windows because I couldn't find some specific software on Linux, but after switching to Windows, I soon discovered the open source ecosystem, like gimp, inkscape, olive, Thunderbird, and all those software are great and amazing once you are comfortable with them. Even though I am still using Windows, I have completely switched to open source software for productivity, so if I ever need to switch to Linux, I know I will be fine.
@@dreaper2087 I will switch to linux, most likely to fedora or Ubuntu unity.
@@nofreewill the other thing you can do is install a linux based os (my preference: mint cinnamon) on an external ssd. you can plug that ssd to any computer anywhere and start being productive right away as you have your system always portable with you. now you can run windows on you main pc and linux on ssd to its even more safe. plenty software devs do this
im happy im not the only one who knows about olive :) its really good
I only use Windows Because of Photoshop being a huge part of my workflow and Even tho gimp is mostly the same, there are a bunch of newer photoshop features that i use 24/7 that arent Even near to be added, and the context AI aint that great in GIMP too.
For any other thing i just use linux.
@@cloudmindead5560 Yeah, you have a point, but I found some great alternative workflows to Photoshop, like always duplicating your layer before making an adjustment, always putting your OG images in a layer group, and utilising Gimp's present features to make adjustments on existing effects, and I also found many foss ai tools that help me edit my photos and make graphics, some for upscaling, some for removing backgrounds, and some for removing artefacts.
About a decade ago, I installed Ubuntu on a then-old PC for someone who just needed it for web mail and general web browsing and who had basically zero familiarity with tech. And it worked perfectly for her for years last I heard.
Yes because she's not using Linux, she's using Firefox...
@@StefanoTrevisani Your point is valid. Such a user could be using any OS.
I do think part of the message of this video is that Linux demanding its users interact with it in esoteric and labyrinthine ways is one barrier to wide adoption.
In that sense, this Firefox-only Linux user is an example of someone for whom, when Linux is set up to "just work" and that barrier is removed, Linux works fine. Her experience of Linux is the same as a Windows user's experience of Windows.
For many users, OSes these days are just app launchers for thin client applications to web services. In the sense I think you mean, these people aren't using those operating systems either.
Or, rather, their use of the OS is invisible to them in the same way my uses of my device's OS, my ISP, and the power grid are all invisible to me as I write this comment.
Whether it's desirable for Linux to be that or not is another question. I think there is value in technology demanding attention in a way that highlights the consequences of its use. And I think having the option to customize Linux as much as is possible is a very good thing.
@@queens.dee.223 precisely! It's not an argument in favour or against any os, it's just that, once you start using a browser, the os almost disappears... It could be Windows, Linux, Mac, ChromeOS... Really you could argue that modern browsers are literal operative systems! They eat up a lot of memory/CPU, which they schedule among tabs and among elements inside each tab, they execute (web)assembly code... I think you get my point. My point is how you deal in Linux/Windows with problems/aspects that concern the OS itself, and Linux unfortunately is not very good at that. I don't know how many lines of C++ code I had to change when trying to get software to compile because of incompatibilities with the compiler toolchain, the kernel version, and so on... I know windows is not much better in that regard, if Bash is trash Powershell is the whole dump, setting env variables is a mess and compiling any library designed for Linux is almost impossible. But really, even this argument about "programming-friendly" is a bit old: think about rust, from what I have seen works as good in windows as in Linux.
Same. My judo coach had issues with his old laptop and I installed linux on it, and it was perfect.
@@StefanoTrevisani That just underlines why Linux is a suitable choice in many cases.
I've used Linux Mint as my daily operating system for nearly a decade and typically didn't use the command-line. People's understanding of Linux is typically 20 years old. I use a Mac now because I wanted an M1 chip, but I got more than 15 years experience in using various Linux operating systems.
why don't we cause most of us just do not care that's why we use what our computers come with and forget about it which is why we have so many problems with it in the long run🤣
There are already ports of Linux for the M1 chip.
My issue with Linux is mainly in laptops you have a lot of power management drivers and you can get poor battery life as those drivers may not be present in linux. Also the function keys are not supported and don't work out of the box (e.g. brightness/volume etc. on top of F1-F12).
If I were using an older desktop and was mainly working on documents and office stuff I would totally use it but my experience with laptops has always been that there's 1 or 2 functions that just can't be made to work - at least as a (non-Power) user.
If I could afford a new System76 machine and they covered my needs I'd go for it... But used windows laptops with 10-15 hour battery life and good specs are like 200-400$ nowadays.
Install Arch!
That's true, it's remarkable how many seem to think you still need to use the command line or that gaming on Linux isn't that great and so on.
Truth is, Linux is quite an easy OS to use, it's different from Windows so there is a bit of a learning curve but that's the case for anything that's different and as we're seeing with the Steam Deck, Linux is more than capable at running games.
That doesn't mean Linux is perfect, but it's in a much better place now than it was just 5 years ago.
In 2001 when I started high school there was pa PC room that every student used. On the PCs there was some weird OS with a red hat. I was so fascinated that when I got my first PC I had to install Linux on it. Today I’m a developer and a gamer and use Linux every day. My wife, kids, brother, mom and dad use Linux and they are happy with it.
What kind of Linux system are you using for gaming?
@@ASDREX458 I mean, he doesn't sound like someone who games a lot but I've heard that Pop is pretty good
@@kraftykactus1028 yeah this dude has a wife and kids and also working as programmer, definitely don't do gaming so often
They are all lucky to have you to maintain their PCs, and no interest in mainstream gaming. 😄
@@ASDREX458 I use Manjaro. I play 4h per day (I work from home so I can game a little during work ). I play games that works on Linux. Today mostly WOW.
I have used Linux since 1998. I started with programming 8-bit machines in graded school. These machines were made for education and DIY and booted to a prompt where you could program them from the ground up. The philosophy i grew up with was more about what i could create and not what product could i buy. My childhood was dysfunctional without much money. Naturally when i turned 18 i worked hard to buy a computer. Two freaking years i saved up to build a windows 98 machine, working double shifts. I was severely let down by windows 98. When i turned it on i could not do a single freaking thing. DOS was crippled. The philosophy around technology changed in a way that was horrifying to me. Locked down machines i could not program from the ground up without spending half a years income first.. I was about to give up and sell my computer then stumbled upon Linux while searching for free C/C++ compilers. Immediately i was taken back to the what can i create philosophy that greatly shaped my childhood. this journey took me from being a dishwasher without a college degree to full fledged systems admin/programmer and consultant within 4 years. I do not even want to think of how broke i would be if i had stuck with windows in 1998. Priceless self education and life changing opportunities would of never presented themselves. It scares me honestly. I use windows when i need it. Of course this runs on my Linux server with GPU passthrough. I will never give it access to bare metal. ;)
damn i am curious how linux was in that time frame as i was born in 1997 that was a pivotal time in os and hardware development. i cant imagine how the scene was experiencing the outcomes now. i like windows and linux almost equally though most of the software im familiar with is in windows.
Man, that went from a really depressing story to incredibly happy and inspiring. I love it.
@@justinjones6302 It was about 1998 or 2000 that I switched to Linux for my home computer, shortly after I got an Internet connection. Windows 3.1 couldn't handle filenames longer than 8.3 (such as the Internet used). I was using Windows 95 at work, it crashed regularly, I sure wasn't going to pay money for that 'upgrade' at home (admittedly Windows got a lot better later) so I went looking and bought a CD of Red Hat. It was a bit fiddly to install, but I got it working. Shortly thereafter I switched to Debian 3.0 (Woody) and I've stuck with Debian ever since. Installation got rapidly easier as Debian automated the installer, and the fact that Linux is free so they don't have to copy-protect the install CDs made a big difference (compared with Windows).
Why would it have cost more for you to stay with Windows 98? Didn't they have free dev tools back then?
I was born in 1998, so I have no real knowledge of that era of computing when it comes to pricing lol.
But yeah I booted Linux for the first time 5 years ago, got into programming and now I'm hopefully going to graduate at the end of this year with a degree in computer science.
@@cronchcrunch back then you had borland c++, microsoft visual studio, and so on, but no free dev tools, the only free dev tool was linux with GCC compiler. Software was not as spread as today and internet connection as dial-up with 56k connection. we would party if we were able to download 10MB in 1 hour.
I use Linux on my old devices. Learning the command line really kept me going in my free time especially I'm temporarily a housewife (in between jobs). The Linux distros such as Mint function on low specs and made my old laptops from 10-8 yrs ago function very well, with the challenge of installing manually some drivers. Idk, maybe I love tinkering things that's why Linux intrigued me so much.
I gave the old laptops with Linux a second lease of life and gave the devices to mom and dad, as they just use computers for social media and youtube.
Ubuntu or Mint comes with basically everything you need out of the box. What you don't have but need can be installed without using any type-magic It's not that bad.
Also, type-magic looks intimidating, but it's pretty easy. Your average user probably just needs apt as well.
Blah blah! Windows is best to use in domains! Stop bs
@@XX-dq3kx What's wrong with you?
@@XX-dq3kx May I repeat my question? I've not disagreed with you. You just come in here and left an infant comment that does not even fit the topic of the original comment. Now you also insult people you don't even know.
@@Gramini as a person in tech I have big distaste when someone suggests anything remote to consumers that needs open terminal sudo mount blah blah to install a software.
I feel like some of the most important points about Linux vs Windows and MacOS are missing in this video:
- The most important point to me is marketing and lobby. Apple is really good at marketing which gives them a very good visibility. Microsoft pushes a lot on institutions (especially education and governements) to use their software. So students learn to use Windows and Microsoft Office, so it just makes sense for them to keep Windows when they finish their studies. For Linux, it has the stigma of being complicated and reserved to powerusers and there is not a lot of marketing to remove this stigma. The video seems heavely based on those stigmas and not on experience.
- Windows is usually preferred by people because it is what they are used to. As long as there is no incentive to change, they don't see the need to try other OSes.
- The lack of drivers is half true. In some cases, i've had to install drivers on Windows while it was already installed on Linux.
- There is no need for it. This shows that the baseline is Windows or Mac for many people because there is also no need to switch from linux to Windows when you just do basic tasks. I would also add there can be a need for it, if you have very old hardware that won't run on Windows, you can use Linux to recycle it. In terms of security, Linux tends to be safer because it is frequently reviewed by third party (usually because this third party uses it for critical applcations such as servers), so this is another reason to switch.
- The use of terminal is often used as an argument against Linux, but that is not necessary to use Linux. You can do everything with a user interface.
- On Ubuntu and Manjaro (and many other distributions) all the basic softwares come preinstalled (web browser, office suite, email client, ...), so the argument about having every software preinstalled is wrong.
Overall, feel like this video was heavely based on impressions and too little research. Still, it is interesting to see how others see Linux.
Yep, my thoughts exactly...
I like to mod the appearance of my distro to make it look cool with conkies ...
no, nonsense. the main issue is support.
not onyl lack of software support, proper software that is equivalent to windows for most standard user.
but worse, support in general. find one service company having profound linux knowlege. you wont find many. that makes it hard to sell.
in business the lack of management for clients and its now a lot less secure foundation is another hard sell.
as fort software, windwos offers simply a big ecosystem and built in libraries, making software development 5-50times cheaper while maintanance basically none over decades.
try that on linux
i use linux on a second drive special purpose for somethings, i use it on all of my server farms, but honestly as my main working OS, its simply way behind in useablity and software support. hell half of my small utilities are dead github projects i had to patch to be halfway alive myself
The learning barrier for Linux is quite high though. Average users who are not familiar with using the terminal will find it daunting to use. That's why it's not that popular despite the 'benefits' you've listed above, it's only accessible to advanced computer users such as yourself. You might think, "you only need the terminal for a small number of things", but you have to understand that the masses do not have the same savviness as you do. Installing the OS itself is quite daunting to many, let alone messing with the terminal. You have to understand that the mentality of an average user is to pay money for a computer and then immediately start doing work with it. Not tinkering with anything in the OS. Maybe the wallpaper at most.
Having too many distros is also confusing to the average user. You have to study which one suit you the best. Windows now only have 2 versions, Home and Pro while Mac has 1. Simplicity is key. You might argue that having a lot of distros is beneficial to the consumers because there's freedom in it, but you're thinking from the mind of an advanced computer user.
As long as Linux don't have the level of user friendliness of Windows or Mac, it will only be a niche part of the computer market.
@@vlabla9063 well i am not an expert and i use linux, i use zorin os , and the interface is similar to windows, is easy to install software, there is a lot of preinstalled software and i think is a solid os for average users, i play dota on it, only issue is that you migth need to use ispecific software.
@@vlabla9063 Totally incorrect. Here is an example of my mother. The first computer she bought for herself was an old laptop that Windows was just suffocating and killing. So I installed Linux on her laptop. So her first OS was actually Ubuntu. When she bought a new laptop a few years later, Windows was preinstalled on it. When she turned it on, the first thing she said was, can you install Ubuntu here, Windows is too complicated for me. I can't manage at all.
This video is very badly done, a total failure. The research is very poorly done. Do you have to use a terminal - you don't have to at all. Can games be played - of course, almost all recent titles. Drivers - the same problems I have on Linux I have on Windows (just pay attention to how many programs there are for finding drivers and updating them). Security is very important, and the proof of this is that 80% of all servers in the world run some Linux distribution.
I started using Linux about 4 years ago. It took a while, but in June of 2021, I switched exclusively to Linux, and haven't really looked back
I'm kinda on the fence. I've used Linux (and want to switch to it exclusively), but Xfinity Stream is the only thing holding me back. They say they don't support Linux because it doesn't support the encoder used to block the video when you try to make a screenshot or record the screen.
Congratulations :D
Congrats! =)
I would just stop using that service. Get a VPN (mullvad) and then pirate the shit out of their stuff. DRM is cancer.
@@20thCYdual boot pc option is also there
I used to be a Windows 11 user, and a student, when I decided to switch to Linux, I chose Ubuntu because that was the most famous option at the time, the setup was very self explanatory, the most difficult part was getting the hard drive that I stored the OS in ready; a tutorial made it easy for me. As a Windows user, after the installation and setup, Linux, at least distros I am familiar with like Fedora and Ubuntu had the same amount of user friendliness as windows or mac. When I brought that computer to my school to show it to my friends, they thought it was really cool, and for the command line, I got naturally used to it. Linux's capabilities are way higher than windows like removing screen time from an Ipad with script that sent to another device using a Wifi or to prank my sister while she was gaming very seriously, I logged her out of her windows machine which was funny.
I pranked my teacher by making my camera a rickroll back during the pandemic (You can do that on Windows too but still, I'm quite proud to have been able to figure everything out). Sadly I live in Asia and my teacher is quite old so he didn't get the meme. All I got was "What the hell is going on with your camera" 🗿
I used win 11 too.. Then it started deleting my keyboard+mouse drivers after updates, the last thing was when explorer started crashing from copying to desktop.. Now i use debian
Lol I used linux to prank my neighbour by cutting their wifi network by just typing few commands and with a network adapter
Command line section felt like fear mongering especially since the only reason I use terminal is not knowing GUI options existed,and nobody uses command line for editing word docs or emails😂
I agree. Email/zoom/docs can all be opened on Firefox. If you don't like Firefox, it's as easy as going to chrome download page, opening up the package with double click and boom you got chrome, no command line required.
To me, I have to use it when the software center basically breaks, also some settings for niche stuff like my graphics tablet HAD TO BE DONE through the terminal because KDE's settings doesn't do anything.
The missing drivers, missing features, lack of polish and terminal requirements were all fear-mongering to actually discourage people from using Linux. This has not been true of Linux for years. Not only do you have more control and customization options, the average user never has to open a terminal window any more. I know, because when I switched from Windows it was a prerequisite for me due to my memory challenges, and I've got on fine.
Everyone knows the instal wizard is superior 😎 I love them when they instal adware in my chromed diesease bowerser.🤭
A lot of people use terminal text editors like vim
I have tried some different linux distros over the years and honestly linux is quite nice. I have obviously had some ups and downs especially with parrot OS but softwares like timeshift have always come in handy for when i mess up. Linux today has a very large community and in most cases any error you encounter someone else has already dealy with the same and the quick fix will be on the forum. It has been the best 6 years
Been running parrot daily for about a year now.. spent time in other debian distros and have some mild experience in Fedora.. my DKMS and headers like to break a lot in parrot though..
I've had more luck with Parrot out of the box than Kali, however.
I'm on Linux mint and loving it. Was the easiest for me to switch over on. Timeshift one of the best programs out there. Especially if you have no clue what you are doing. Saved my neck a few times when I tried something and it didn't go so well. Or if an occasional glitch made it into the updates.
Tried Lubuntu a few years back and it was great, really easy to use and actually easier to set up than WIndows initially.
Didn't have any problems with it for ages.
But when I did I couldn't find the right information.
All the different distros make it impossible unless you really get into how the system works and can define what you need to find in very certain terms.
I tinker some, but with the things that interest me.
Learning everything I'd need to learn to be able to use Linux effectively in that way would take far more energy than learning the things I actually want to learn and make it that much slower.
Most importantly before I discovered VR I never felt motivated to learn more than some basics out of curiosity and everything is built for Windows.
Everything of quality at least, Android's a whole other headache.
So I'm stuck, everyone's stuck and it stinks but here we are.
@@glenrisk5234 I'm using that, and have been for a long time. It's probably tainted my view of Linux because I'm using like a 6 or 8 year old version of the OS. It's pretty much impossible for me to successfully download and use anything without the help of a very talented friend, and most of the time even with his help I usually never get anything to work consistently
Wasn't parrot os SPECIFICALLY designed for professional use in IT security use? It is absolutely not meant as something for you to use on a daily bases man. I suggest you look into something that is made for daily driver purposes.
Regarding gaming, a new generation of linux gamers is coming thanks to the Steam Deck. It's definitely removing a lot of stigma regarding Linux among gamers and they are starting to see the possible benefits of having it on their gaming PC too: despite the translation of wine/proton, in many cases it can achieve higher performance or compatibility. There's many old games that already work better on linux than windows, and some new games benefit from having a shader cache and a faster filesystem etc. It also provides features that can't be done with windows, at least not easily. For example pausing games so they don't consume any CPU/GPU power while they're paused. On the Steam Deck that's very easily done with the plugin "pause games" in decky, and it takes advantage of linux features to suspend processes.
ngl the steam deck is mid
@@deibos8546 you are mid
@@deibos8546 What do you mean? It's a tiny little laptop which I already used as another linux PC machine for a while when my desktop broke and it's surprisingly more powerful as such than I expected. It's theoretically less powerful than my regular laptop but it felt faster. It's probably the unified GDDR5.
To be fair, I think the strength of Linux is in its adaptability. Steam uses Linux as the base of their SteamOS so they can optimize it for gaming on handheld. They're not gonna convince Microsoft to build a Steam version of WIndows. I still don't see Linux will be popular among desktop gamers though. Average user just won't tinker Linux that deep to optimize the OS to their computers. Windows still wins the one-size-fits-all approach.
@@estidi It doesn't need as much "tinkering" as you think. Most of the heavy lifting is done through Proton and setting games to run in "game mode" so it receives more system resources for better performance. Many games even run faster in Linux through Proton than they do on the Windows system it was compiled for, thanks to Vulkan. Let me repeat that: Binary code that was compiled to run on Windows has even surpassed Windows performance running through a compatibility layer on Linux by using Vulkan. Most games run on par with Windows. It's really only kernel-level anti-cheat root-kits that have trouble. How tragic is that for Windows?
My man labelled all Linux users as “Poor” 😡
Lol we just got through seeing Microsoft rise to a monopoly, they’ll kill any chance that we use anything but their products!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hahaha
I guess he was researching for that video and came across this "opposing" results and said: well.. why the heck not!
Microsoft doesn't care if you use Windows anymore. They want you to use their services.
Isn't that the goal of every business? To sell their products?
@@codemonkey6173 Well, Windows IS one of their services. AND... It comes with services that they make that most people wouldn't use otherwise.
I started using Linux because my PC was getting slower and slower, with always more problems without any motivation, and it was less than 2 years old! I decided that changing PC wasn't worth if it would slow down in 2 years, and so tried Linux.
In Debian I found exactly what I wanted from an OS: simple, stable and fast! Now I have no BSOD or updates at the wrong time, and the advantage of not having to look on the "wild" internet for the software I need (almost everything is in the repositories)!
Gonna try that. I tried Ubuntu but eventually went to windows after upgrading hardware.
Edit: Thanks for the idea
Debian is a very good choice. It's the basis of many other popular Distros like Ubuntu and Mint.
It's also widely used in internet hosting for its performance, stability and security.
Never had a problem with it, except for the time I messed something up horribly with root rights. Luckily it was a fresh install and I quickly fixed it by just installing it again in a few minutes.
Slower and slower? Smells like planned obsolescence... Must be microbrain trying to make Win10 seem outdated...
@@balala7567 it more than likely is. And it is important somewhat. Cause I believe that’s why seinhesser was bought
@@balala7567 The first time I had to reinstall windows 11 wasn't out yet, probably they wanted me to buy an other PC... They failed lol
I've noticed that Linux really shines when you go far enough to find limitations of Windows. I started having obnoxious problems that I couldn't get solved, Microsoft''s tech support being of no help to fixing them, and had no way to fix the problems without reinstalling Windows (a process I've become very familiar with). A lot of games can have variations in performance, but usually aren't too difficult to get running, since if having Proton on doesn't fix it, setting it to use experimental usually does. You just gotta care about the perks Linux has for it to be useful
Also the command line is a curse and a blessing. Immensely powerful, and yet I would never let my grandfather anywhere near it, and would be horrified if he were to learn about the fdisk command
If you have privilege escalation anything but locked down to the point that you are the only person who can do it you should really fix that.
Atleast most of the "dangerous" commands are locked behind sudo.
Your grandfather probably wrote the command-line. It's under-appreciated that old people are probably more familiar with the CLI than new users. If not an Apple II, they may have been fiddling with punchcards in college. I am just now going deep into the biggest downsides of a UI. Very small devices may soon stop having screens at all. Imagine phones and watches, or ear buds that are full-blown cell phones. Some are best navigated by audio with a controller similiar to a remote-control. All that would be based on re-purposing features that were mostly made for blind people, where it's a text shell sending out text to audio or tactile devices.
Grandfathers would be comfortable with the command line as that is all we knew back in the 70s/early 80s, but maybe you have to conjure up some demographic to feel superior to.
my grandfather programmed on punch cards. try debugging a punch card program, and you'll be surprised how safe and simple unix shell is.
I switched to Linux for one reason and it's one that you didn't mention and that is privacy. I used to be a Windows user but after the Glory Days of Windows 7 Microsoft implemented a number of privacy violating changes among them being the requirement to connect your PC to a Microsoft account . now yes of course there are ways to remove the Privacy violating features of Windows such as telemetry but for me it is the principle of the matter. as the end user I get no benefit from Microsoft collecting my user data
Agreed; I am about to switch from Win7 to (exclusively) Linux. I've been using Linux for servers and tinkering with desktops but maintained Win7 for "gaming". Now I see Steam will NO longer work for Win7 as of JAN 1; so I will be making a permanent switch to Linux desktop (too)! Screw microsnot and their stupid arse winblows
He did mention "ideological reasons"
Fun fact, Microsoft has apparently been gathering user data since Windows 95. They also know which computers are using duplicate keys.
But it really won't convince 95% of the people because of the intrinsic tendency to trust such big companies. Sure, we say we don't and we won't ever shut up about the suits ruining our lives, but a different safety mechanism applies here: crowd self-assurance. Microsoft crosses the line? You can already see the media frenzy, the class-action lawsuits... whatever trouble affects you, you will be able to remain idle all while the loud majority will go out of their way to protect your interests. Linux doesn't provide that level of comfort.
People overwhelmingly don't believe they may fall victim to spying because who gives a shit about them to begin with? To be fair, I don't think even most Linux power users are genuinely afraid of Microsoft being able to learn what type of porn they jack off to. But it's a useful argument to wave that will make you think you're so much smarter than those sorry little Bill Gates bitches.
So yeah. Security is just overglorified. You could keep a bunch of cans in your fridge in case of nuclear war, won't even cost you much, but do you? No. Because you don't believe you will ever see a nuclear war. Linux won't become mainstream as long as the advantages used to propagate it are abstract to people.
All the people who say "there are ways to remove it" are forgetting something. 99% of the people who "remove it" missed some hidden parts, because it's like cockroaches hiding all over in different corners of the OS. Each time you do an update, the cockroaches move into new parts and also breed, putting babies into new areas that your prior removals did not get.
It's important to remember that the big guys like Microsoft aren't using the Desktop Linux this video has focused on but server distros to run the servers that Linux is mostly used for..
Important to remember big iron is money maker. Microsoft so confident in own OS, they do not put their on it's own servers, but some cancerous Linux. Desktop Linux same Server Linux or IoT one. Same Linux ISO run on SBC, NAS, Desktop, Server etc.
@@mindaugasstankus5943 You do realize that all Linux distros only really have to share the kernel right?
Its by Servers use Linux because its kernel stays stable even under longer uses cases and it was already highly optimized for this purpose being born as a Unix clone.
It just makes sense to use Linux for serves because of this but for Desktop usage is having a proper DE pretty important and that is were for many Linux is dropping the ball.
Indeed.This RUclipsr is not telling the entire truth. Talk about dishonesty.
You must be new to RUclips
"Virtually all these people are primarily doing extremely generic tasks, like working on word docs and excel sheets, or replying to emails." I agree that the command line can scare people away (especially if they need to start configuring things they don't normally configure); but, most distro's can do these generic tasks without any hassle. Heck, most users could probably even go to Chrome for that type of stuff.
You reach a point where you suddenly realise why we still HAVE a command line.
A more elegant weapon, for a more civilized age.
True. A more valid reason for sticking with Windows is IMHO if one uses specific applications that only run under Windows. Although there is always the option to use something like Quemu.
Years ago I had all my children working and playing on dual boot computers. Windows XP and Debian. I continued to dual boot myself to about 10 years ago and all the kids were gone but nowadays I do everything on all machines in Debian. Work, play, server duties, video editing, coding etc.
I love the fact over the years all my coworkers would always end up with viruses, worms and various other malware on their windows machines and my OS was immune. 😁
long live windows xp although MS hasn't supported since 2014...
@Zashin I know 🙂
@RoBoT 24 Agreed! However, we are talking about John Q Public here 🙂
@RoBoT 24 Actually. Now that I think of it more, if we were to carry out the parallel to biological pathology... The 'viruses' zoonotic nature couldn't cross animal familia. DUCKS! 😅
Would that be immunity ?!?
The major issue for me is the lack of software. As an engineering student I often need to use a lot of different and obscure software that will only run on Windows or MacOS. They'll either not run on Linux or require emulators (which would be a waste of my time and effort).
same here, stranded with the software on windows
I agree. I used Linux for about 4 years. Found myself more and more isolated from the wide software world. Finally, I decided to open the windows and converted to Windows 11 Professional. It seems like a completely free environment. I have no regrets. Windows 11, without going into details, is more than satisfactory. It fulfills all my requirements.
@@abbiyoung4459 woman take
@@abbiyoung4459 Never mind Win 11 forking sucks at file management or all that hardware that got stranded by it.
One interesting thing about this issue is that companies like Valve have pushed the development of wine/proton to play windows game on Linux with awesome performance. If many windows games can run so well in Linux, why could not software?
I use mint as a non-power user and have had very few issues. If anything, my life has been made a little easier because of the better update system.
The "update system" of Linux is definitely one of the major advantages of Linux!
@@Csabinho yeah getting a black screen of death after every single kernel update is one of the major advantages!
@@Anton-ki7ch Account created in 2020 has no content yeah you're a troll
@@reviewerofstuff2597 your channel doesn't have content either.
@@Anton-ki7ch If you use a Linux Distro that is meant to be daily drivable and that does not need manual configuration(Ubuntu(+Ubuntu deritatives), Fedora, Pop! OS,Manjaro,... NOT Kali Linux), such a thing does most likely NEVER occur(I have been using Linux for many Years now and it appeared one time because I used Arch Linux and configures it wrong).
I switched to Linux a few months ago and mainly use it for gaming (RTX 3080 and R5 5600X), I was tired of Windows 11 adding more bloats, adds, tracking and some choices done in their interface that couldn't be changed.
A few things that seems incorrect to me
- Steam proton and Lutris are very friendly for gamers with very little impact on performance. The real issue is if you play games with anti cheat solutions, most of them doesn't run on Linux for now but Valve is pushing it to change and Epic is behind it too.
- The shell that you mentioned as the command line isn't required for anything on most distribution for a normal user, it's just another way to do some tasks, same under Windows where you could use Powershell to be much faster on some administration actions instead of going through x menus
- Nothing installed by default, again it depends of the distro, but I doubt someone installing Ubuntu or Manjaro will have a lot missing needs compared to Windows or MacOS, even the integration of most cloud providers can be done in a few clicks through a GUI
- Regarding the drivers it's rather inaccurate, the drivers being in the kernel there is nothing for user to do if the hardware is supported. If the wifi isn't available out of the box it's most likely on a distro for advanced users like Gentoo or Arch where users choose to add the packages required for their use case. I doubt a distro intended for a larger audience will have a single issue with it
Now the reality is that Linux will probably never be for the average user, not the person looking at tech videos on YT but someone only using it for going on Facebook or checking their emails. They don't care what is running but it needs to be widely available and can ask people around them when an issue arise.
But for people not liking the way Microsoft ecosystem evolves and not wanting to go into an Apple lock, Linux is a very interesting option, the only one we have and is getting a turbo boost with companies like Valve pushing it to the general public.
One thing I hate with some games like Destiny 2 is that even if you get the game and anticheat running under proton, you will probably just get banned outright for doing so which is really shitty.
Epic games is actively ruining Linux gaming, but go off.
@@IIdankII I found out that this is due to some weird politics these devs have against Linux
Agree man, most of these "drawbacks" are a thing of the past
I would use Linux if it supports everything a game need to run, for now I'm using Windows which is also a pain in the neck if something breaks. But atleast they already have the solution, either from community or official.
I am a computer engineering student and I have to say that windows with WSL is a great mix. That being said, I write most of my code on my Raspberry Pi 4 just because the environment and management is far better. I also don't have to jump through as many hoops to do things because many coding tools do not support windows
Unfortunately... Using the terminal with WSL is rather slow
Docker is a good example, while it does work on windows, you have to enable virtualization in the BIOS and have WSL enabled and updated.
On Linux it just works.
@@RenderingUser It helps a bit to not use the Windows terminal. I'm using an X-Server on my Windows (vcxsrv) and use terminator with it. It runs better (for reasons I don't know), but still slower than a real Linux OS in a VM or on bare metal.
WSL is like treating ebola by giving the person cancer and then treating the cancer with the plague. It's a bad solution where the solution is to either virtualize an environment or running linux or mac. It's made to keep public sector from moving their developers to linux and allowing microsoft techs to keep their useless jobs.
I use WSL2 with a WSL extension on VSCode works like Dream. I also have Raspberry Pi5. I connect with the remote Tunel SSH extension for VSCode and run my Python code
1) I think Linux usership will increase dramatically with the trend big tech companies (like Mac and Windows) is heading. I'm referring to situations like bitlocker and TPM where Microsoft own the keys to your computer even though you - the user - purchased it. Apple has also exerted this type of control. They don't like power users and power users will turn to Linux for its open source and its freedom.
2) I literally lol'd when you said [paraphrased] "Linux downgrades people socially." I don't think most people who use Linux care where they fall socially. Also, this is the age of the nerds. The things that people code on Linux have a higher potential for being a viable and PROFITABLE app in the future (more than likely the near-future). The same football jocks who picked on the nerds are now using the very phones that those nerds developed. Social status be damned! 😂🤣
yeah none of that is going to stop people using windows or mac in fact those are the reason that people keep using mac and windows because it is a developer issue not a windows issue. if developers woke up and said now more windows and mac you might have point but until that day happens windows mac isn't going anywhere.
I'm a windows user and I could care less about any of that. I honestly don't care that MS "controls" how I use my computer.
I also found the "Linux downgrades people socially" take laughable. I have to think that this is antiquated. I started using purely Linux in college and no one judged me for it. I've continued to use it professionally for over five years and it's brought me quite a bit of success. There are opportunities that would have never opened for me without Linux. I think judging someone socially based on their preference in OS is ridiculous.
It's interesting that there's people here taking your comment as a pure indictment of Windows/Mac. People have different goals that they want from computing. I have friends that primarily use their computers for proprietary applications and gaming (w/ drm). They don't have the same ideological motivation to care about security and ownership. I don't push them to use Linux, because they would incur overhead that they wouldn't benefit from. I think everyone needs to recognize that their preference in OS comes with a set of trade-offs.
The mental gymnastics are strong with this one. @@userunknown1030
You will if/when they lock you out of certain features. Welcome to not being the admin.@@tical2399
I have been using Linux for about 6 years now. I mainly started switching because I got sick of Win10 breaking on me almost every time there was an update. It just became easier to learn linux and its alternative programs than it was to keep my windows up and running.
i need a mac and windows for game dev, if game dev were better and more stable on linux ill go to arch again.
90% of people in this comment section always bring up updates. Just disable them. You always could do that. Just disable updates and thats it. Or even better get LTS windows version where you can get rid of updates for once and for all
@@holesmak Everyone always says disable updates but the best I was ever able to do was delay them a little.
@@holesmak and then you don't get new features.
@@FormalSnake I do Unity game dev in arch, it's not bad
The new Ubuntu LTS release (22.04) is a pretty good out of the box experience for an average PC user IMO.
haven't tried ubuntu lts 22.04 but from my experience with pop!_os and linux mint, these "beginner" distros include everything you need for any basic task, and those which aren't included out of the box is just a click in an app store away. Unless you play games, and even then it has gotten waaaaay better, you absolutely do not need windows
Nope, where's my start menu
@@memebruh2024 Ubuntu isn't the only linux distro out there, Zorin, Pop! OS, Linux Mint and more exist that look similar to windows and have a start menu.
@@NotePortal bruh thanks, but I'm sending this just for being annoying
I'm a KDE user
@@memebruh2024 oh ok
I switched to linux over a year ago since I had enough of windows and its bloat, the way Microsoft will do anything for you to use their product, the lack of control and most importantly, the lack of privacy. I stayed for the flexibility, the morals and philosophy and of course, the terminal that I learned to love
I did the same thing and I have a lot less weird problems
Hi, can we use Excel on Linux??
I switched to linux over 10 years ago since I had enough on the failures of Windows Vista and 7
App compatibility is just garbage on GNU-Linux (Fault of the companies who make those apps). If you go to school you are fucked. Dual booting is must.
@@BM-we4ij; Microsoft Excel could be installed with Wine, but it's not going to work as it does in windows, thus the better option is to install one of the many open source Office options. (LibreOffice, OpenOffice, WPS Office) There are probably more then these, and they have compatibility for Microsoft formats.
I love Linux for several reasons such as it being open source, no spying for the purposes of advertising or boosting the NSA’s database of warrantless searches, and it’s extremely customizable. Privacy and security is the main reason I use Linux since it has less viruses and no telemetry / spying.
the point he brought up in the video for the reason most people use it. while pointing out no cares about the spying. because they don't they don't think they are doing anything wrong enough to warrant any scary outcome from using their pc lol. linux being more secure less virus isn't a selling point for most since there is remedy for all that on windows as well. but i mean at the end of the day no one cares enough and those that do use linux as you see most don't care since it only has 2.8% share of the market so security isn't a hot button issue for most users.
Switch to windows
someone is always watching in the internet
@@Johny9405 Yes but it’s different when your OS is literally spying on everything you do.
I'm using linux laptops for personal use for almost 20 years now. But I agree that most people don't want to walk along the learning curve ... they want to walk the straight line to word docs and excell sheets.
Ngl imo the learning curve is really fun to learn as it can even teach you a lot about computers.
The vast majority don't find that fun though. If it had wider appeal we wouldn't have such a chronic shortage of techs and devs (and we wouldn't be getting paid as well either).
@@NotePortalThe people who think that way wouldn't need to be convinced to try out Linux in the first place. The learning curve is only fun after you start actually catching your first sight of knowledge above the curve line. And that's a very long and frustrating way before you reach that point. That's why coding is still so niche despite the awesome money: you have to dedicate so much effort before you start harvesting the first crop.
I have been using linux since 2007. And I will stick to it.
It has better clean smooth ui and carries out great user experience than any other OS.
Fair enough
Which distro
Depends on which distro.
I thought debian based distros were great until i installed parrot os....😤
@@trevortrevose9124 Linux mint
there is also the point that linux is not just free as in $0, it is also free as in freedom and it is open source and community maintained, so you essentially never have to curse the overlords for forcing something on you like microsoft edge or windows update. Then there is the famous story of a new hire fixing one bug that they themselves found annoying and than quitting, this a lot easier to do one linux, and even if you solution is rejected you can apply it to your own computer without bothering anyone else.
I used Linux for almost 8 years, and my advice to people who want or entering the software development industry, use Linux, I don't code much anymore, but my job depends on my Linux skills. I stopped using it on my personal PC 2 years ago, but I know how to use it.
Ive been using linux for 25yrs. I even base my company around providing services based on foss tech. I agree with using linux because of ideology. I also believe it's just better to have complete control over any device you've spend your hard earned dollars for. I enjoyed the video. Keep em coming.
@@rsh650 no foreign code from ad-companies running all the time
no sending protocols to the company
no stupid software like WMP, edge or cortana (that you can't completely uninstall)
and in theory you can trust that the mic of your laptop is not an espionage tool
I'm a professional software developer who has Windows on my work machine and Linux on my personal one! I swapped to Linux 2 or 3 years ago for personal use as Windows was just getting slower and slower, irrespective of the regular wipes and rebuilds I was doing to try and combat the sluggishness - Linux just makes better use of my hardware, and even now runs super-smooth on my 9 year old ultrabook, beating my Windows laptop (which is brand new) in almost every area like boot-up time, opening programs, etc. Add to that the ability to decide when I want to apply updates, the fact that I can run every program I want, the gaming support advances that Valve have implemented, I can customise it to my hearts content, the better implementation of super-user access - I could go on, but the point is I will not be going back to Windows (unless I'm forced to, like I am by my employer)...
Which distro are you using bro?
@@thenarrator5392 I started off with Manjaro, but have since swapped to Pop OS - It's fantastic!
@@stingly142 I used to work with ubuntu for awhile, but now I'm a student and I have 8gig Ram, Amd windows. so I plan to switch to a linux distro which has speed for development and convenient for documentation, Do you have anything in mind?
I'm probably not the best font of knowledge on the Internet! There are a lot of options out there - if I were you I'd be reading reviews etc. Pop OS is really good though... I've only had a couple of minor issues that were resolved with a quick Googling...
That is a very big problem indeed, employers should be much more mindful of people who want to use Linux in the enteprise (because it works great and represent such amazing cost savings!). Don't get discouraged, they'll arrive to these conclusions eventually.
I went to Linux from windows. After struggling for many years with device drivers especially sound drivers, bluetooth, and some software, I decided to go back believe it or not to MacOs on the latest Apple Si. The quiet is deafening. The stability and no nonsense with drivers and the mac built in software suits me just fine.
I'm considering switching to a Mac as well. I speak this as I had to disable my dual boot and go straight to Windows, and now I'm developing precariously through WSL2. I dont know enough about Linux. One open source project setup and I ruined my Linux boot.
I have one that dual boots
Never had issues with sound printers you gotta sudo apt get
zero hardware and driver problems to me
Normal people tend to research before they do. I have never gotten any driver problems with Linux even now with my state of the art PC. Driver problems for me occur on the Windows side of things like my hardware raid or even GPU drivers. Windows needs you to do all kinda things before it works and then still it works crappy, Linux recognizes the hardware raid out of the box and works sublime. As for that GPU driver. My computer could be upgraded from Windows 10 to 11. Okay lets do so. Resulting in a wrong driver version where the GPU 3D capabilities were completely borked. Not even the config screen started up. Took me 2 days to fix the problem and get Windows so far not to update the f'ing wrong driver on every restart. Windows sucks and you know it.
The difficulty of linux is vastly overstated
The work that Valve is doing to translate low level calls in 3d engines is going to make you eat your words about the games part.
he just speaks the truth for now. we dont know the future. yet.
@@Duy23803 He is speaking of linux 2 years ago
I'm a programmer but since 1 year ago i only touch the terminal for work and for everyday use everything is just GUI
I want to play a game i just install it from steam or heroic, no terminal needed, updates don't need the terminal
I want a movie? every service works for me at good quality
Want to stream, no problem it just works like in windows
Want to view or edit a document? i can use office 360 or google docs or any other office suite like only office which open the documents just fine
Web pages that don't work on linux is not because of linux, is just the page is blocking linux on purpose
Proton isn't the second coming of Christ. It will never give you equal performance, a compatibility layer just can't do that. I don't think it'll ever be perfect for all games either, there's just too many variables. Unless developers start making native Linux ports that don't suck balls, gaming on Linux will never be equal.
@@RuriGk what distro for home use?
@@plebisMaximus you're right, it's not the same performance: in many cases proton makes the windows game runs quicker on Linux than on windows :)
Look it up!
I've been using Linux for a year. I switched out of curiosity and stayed for its simplicity
What distro?
@@juusomaenpaa7236 I dual booted windows with Ubuntu and Ubuntu distros like peppermint and Pop Os but was unimpressed. I finally found Fedora and I love it and now windows is gone.
Started running Linux not because of any reason mentioned but because I read what Snowden said and realized that a lot of essay to use on Windows was in exchange for my privacy.
Same. Privacy and freedom are mine reasons to use linux
11:17 "Anti-Big Tech" pretty much addresses this. I wouldn't be surprised if he brought up Linux proponents being opposed to data sharing/privacy breach elsewhere in the video too
I fell for those Linux Elitists back around 2015-16 and wanted to switch to Linux full-time for those ideological reasons you mentioned at the end.
But I ended up going on-&-off about that whole thing for the next six years. A couple incidents where I wanted to wipe my Linux installations had resulted in a ruined life of mine. The first was where I wiped the GRUB bootloader from my Windows drive, and made an angry livestream asking people how to "unbrick" my computer. The second incident (which took place only a couple months later!) was where I hastily re-formatted my Linux drive back to a blank partition... wiping most of my life's past projects from existence!
Finally, in early 2021, after trying Linux one last time, me being unable to record & play at the same time in Audacity (probably just an issue with the audio drivers) has gotten me to make an oath to NEVER use Desktop Linux EVER AGAIN, and every time I even THINK about giving it another try, I'd stop myself and tell myself, "You SWORE!"
But then, over a month after this video's upload, I hypocritically went back by buying a Steam Deck, which ran Linux-based SteamOS.
1st and 2nd one is very clearly your fault, 3rd one is a pulseaudio issue, nowadays you should switch to pipewire so you can record and play while open up audacious (tested with obs). What distro did you use?
@@middyjohn Mostly Manjaro & Mint (the latter because it's supposed to be more stable).
And come to think of it, I think one of the times I gave up on Linux was when I couldn't use my Xbox controller in Kodi there, but I could do so on Windows! I legit raged at that!
@@AvidSonicFan we all been there😅, cant comment on those 2 tho, manjaro update broke my system a few years back and mint was my first distro (never turn back).
linux has been very daily drivable these days, been windowless since nov last year. For stable (and still keep up with latest versions), I would recommend endeavourOS or fedora. I still keep windows VM for pdfs, rom decrypting and other small stuff. Just don't expect to get roblox working ootb
1. Always make a backup. 2. Don't get angry. This applies to any OS.
I feel like a better reason for developers to use linux is because developers can actually take advantage of the fine-grained control that linux offers. Linux being Unix-based is a small fraction of the reason compared to this.
Yes and no. A huge reason that developers use Linux is just because most cloud infrastructure runs on Linux so it's easier to interop with on a Linux system and compile for on a Linux system. A lot of us generally prefer Linux for the reason that you suggest, but it's not the primary reason that most developers use it.
developers is such a generic word that this really doesn't apply depending on what you're developing.
Are you developing cloud applications, eg Salesforce? Linux literally implies no advantages over Windows.
@@yuzzo92 correct, I am implying/assuming developers would have a higher understanding of computer science than your average layman; if there's a more elquent term for that feel free to let me know
@@sunglow9835 i realize now that i worded my comment terribly and it sounded completely different compared to what i actually wanted to mean.
Rephrasing it better:
Today developers work on such a diversified environment that it's not necessarily applicable that they would get benefits from using a linux environment.
The development industry has branched so much that today we may not even speak of fullstack development in the ordinary sense anymore, .NET was a major player years ago, Java too, and while they're still massive, other platforms/products have shown up in the meantime.
I have an old schoolmate that works with WSL and it's a literal requirement for his development job if not even using Linux directly, while for me, working on something else entirely, Windows is a necessity and actually implies several advantages compared to using other OS as a base for development.
And keep in mind that both me and him develop web applications, albeit of two entirely different types. Very often the relevance of Linux is greatly exagerated because of how relevant Linux actually is on web development. But software development in general is SO vast that at the end of the day, no matter how the web is getting more and more relevant in our daily lives, it still remains a portion of a much larger whole.
I still have nightmares about the time I tried to download pandas in Python on Windows..... :D
Did he really just compare Github with iCloud 7:20?
Lol
Just switched to mainly use Linux about 6 months ago out of pure curiosity. After using Windows for years, I was confused after about a day or 3, but since I started to switch to it after familiarizing my self by using a VM inside Windows first, I've had an easier time transitioning.
I just keep a Windows 11 OS that's on another SSD because of Photoshop and Fruity Loops.
What's good with FOSS is that bugs can actually be usually fixed after just about a day or 2 (it takes longer some times, but hey. devs made those for free without even asking for your personal data) and because a lot of people have eyes on the source code, they have multiple ways of fixing them. The drawback of them being FOSS is that, some times, their GUI does not look that nice.
Also, if you like customizing your desktop, you're going to have a field day with the abundance of available and customizable themes.
The terminal is not that scary, just don't use "root" if you don't have to.
Admittedly tho, you're right about the simple things that just works on Windows or Mac can be cumbersome to make work with Linux. In my case, I've had trouble making my PC display the battery level of my bluetooth devices that are currently connected. Took me like a few days to make it work.
But, at the end of the day, if you think about it, it's not Linux's fault for not having some appropriate drivers for devices right out of the bat. I mean, most manufacturers make devices with Windows and Mac as their priority.
By the way Fruity Loops -> on Linux qtractor does the job, For photoshop, Gimp is awesome. For 3D, Blender 3D is also very cool
@@linuxtux5894 Yes. I also use GIMP now for basic editing, but I always forget where everything is. Lol. I use blender as well and Resolve.
@@HeathenHacks Nice! Also forgot Krita and Inkscape on the visual side, and Renoise on the musical production side (although Renoise is not free, it is awesome and these guys are working really hard).
What I am missing in this video is mention if WSL. This also helps immensely when you just want to use Windows but need bash for coding.
wonderful video essay. i use windows for certain apps and games but my main driver is Fedora. Linux is very underrated, best thing about it is it runs on everything.
nice that's so so old🤣
Linux user here. I have been using linux for like 6 years now. The video is good and I agree with/understand most of your points, although I do not believe linux decreases your productivity compared to other operating systems. You usually only have to deal with drivers for printers and Nvidia gpus. Almost everything else, including most wifi cards work out of the box. No need to download lots of drivers if you are building your own pc. Many common tasks such as web browsing, moving files, email or updating software can be done without ever touching the command line. I installed Linux Mint on my parents and grandparents computers when windows stopped working and they have not had many linux specific issues. You don't even have to get rid of windows to use linux. You can very easily keep windows and switch between operating systems by rebooting. All you have to is select the keep windows option in the installer, which is the default.
To me a command line is a great feature for beginners because when there is something complicated to do instead of watching a 15min tutorial on RUclips and searching through menus you can just copy paste a few commands and that's it
I learned how to use a computer on Linux and I can't switch to windows. My pc has never crashed on my even if I leave it on for weeks, I can use word but I just use Libre office. The main reason I stay on Linux is that the user experience is so much better. There are diffrnt desktop environments that allow you to completely change how you use your pc.
The customizability is unmatched
What linux os you're using?
@@MoonV29 doesn't matter, once you know enough they're all the same.
@@accountid9681 In theory they're all the same but some are more reliant on tinkering than others. So it is important to understand which OS OP is using
@@MoonV29 I'm using arch
In Germany the Govt in Munich switched to Linux to save cost. That experiment was stopped after just 1 year. The reason was simply that they could not find a company offering the service to keep all the desktops working. Companies and Govt need service contracts, without them any IT is useless to them. A person who does HR can not start looking at some forums to get something working on Linux.
Privacy and less intrusive is a good point to mention as a comparison to the competition. From personal experience, I think Linux comes with a good set of software out of the box and more for free. The flexibility to change your UI is amazing and personal as to hardware compatibility, breathing new life into reusable old machines (printers are a problem though). If computer companies offered Linux as a pre installed option to the general population and companies, that would turn the development a bit in favour. Schools should introduce it to students and we will see more software running through a web interface that will change traditional ways of running/using software. Recently I lost my Windows system and very quickly went Linux, and it took a few days to adapt but continued with graphics, sound and video editing. Even word-processing was a little weird but it's pretty powerful. Inkscape is very impressive as I'm a illustrator user... I don't feel the need to go back unless there is a feature from a windows app that's a blocker.
Printers are always a problem
Even in a 100yrs smh
Remember seeing that blue sky, green hill, and white clouds?? Yeah, those were the days!! Simple times!!
Classic XP
Oh that's very true! XP is by far my favorite version of windows. Rock stable, does what it is supposed to. No ads. I fancied windows 7 for a while but went back to XP coz of stability issues. But then I had to move on coz the 64bit era was approaching
The reason why I feel Linux is better is because of the open source nature of most distros and applications allowing a much more diverse variety of people to innovate upon the technology. As a KDE Plasma user, it's really nice to have significantly more intuitive features that you wouldn't think about but are very happy to find, such as moving windows by holding the Meta key without touching the title bar. I'm still aware that Linux isn't for everyone yet, but it's a nice refreshing experience after using Windows for many years.
I'm Plasma lover as well. The balance between beautiful default vs customability just feels right. This new version with feature resizeable start menu is awesome. I didn't know I would like it.
Meta+LeftClickDrag to move windows and Meta+RightClickDrag to resize are such good features. Not sure which WM I first encountered it in. But I don't really want to use a WM/DE that doesn't have it any more.
It was about 3 years ago when COVID broke out. I started to working from home. I had an old PC at home and it was very slow running Windows 10. Luckily I learned Linux Mint online. I managed to get used to it and it works blazingly fast.
Last year I went back to office and switched on my Windows 10 again. Booting up took a few minutes. I remember I said to myself "WHY THE WAITING?"
Yeah my Linux system boots up in 1.777 seconds. My PC is over 10 years old too so it's not even that fast. Booting taking minutes would drive me crazy.
The main advantage of Linux is its customizability. It's up to everyone to decide whether it's worth investing weeks of their time to "slightly" improve their experience and efficiency in the long term.
I say slightly because to average user Windows and Mac experience is really good. It can get better if you customize your system for your specific tasks but that's it. It's only for people who want or need to do specialized tasks where Windows and Mac get inconvenient compared to Linux.
Exactly
There are many things that "just works" on linux without customization that you'd need complex setup on windows/mac, especially things for software development. ssh, gcc, docker to name a few. Even if you did get these to run on win/mac, it's often slower and lacks in feature. Docker for example requires virtualization to run on mac/windows which slows it down. Also g++/clang++ on mac doesn't support latest features like -fconcepts, and there are no workaround as far as I know. macos xcode is a pain in the ass to work with, and I don't hear a lot of good stories about wsl either.
The average user who thinks it's good is thinking that because they don't know any better.
I used to own a Mac. Would get sent weird emails by a co-worker, I would delete them. 2years later you would see some terrible photo. I never did find out where that stuff was saved.
Then I went back to windows. At least the file system has some sense of order but I stated playing with raspberry Pis one day I looked up how to tell if you are hacked.
I wasn't hacked but once I saw how many people were talking to my machine when I wasn't trying to talk to anybody and all of those people worked for Microsoft I didn't like it.
Then as I was investigating that I heard somebody say I own the hardware on my computer but I don't own the software. The software I paid extra for is not owned by me ? Fuck that.
Linux from that day forward
If you pay for a finite amount of data from your ISP telemetry can screw you
@@seanfaherty Yeah there's many good reasons to use Linux but average Joe just doesn't care enough about privacy or control to make the switch. Convenience is the most important metric when it comes to basically anything nowadays.
@@cubiss1273And the lack of the unique selling point. No matter what angle I see people take on this, it's always "Linux can do what Windows can, just as well or even better" which does not make it unique. Where it improves, it's largely in the domain only an IT hobbyist will appreciate, but where it's sold short is where the rest of society truly put the value.
If there was one thing, one single thing about Linux that would be valuable to an average customer that Windows just couldn't emulate, then maybe... but not before that happens.
Once I lost my data, because my computer was hijacked. On the next day I installed Linux, and I never had a problem since. And there is no support? The Linux community is very very helpful!
Although I do agree that in terms of being user friendly, Linux probably lags behind - I would like to add that many Linux distros nowadays are focusing more and more on it, some have gotten amazing at it…
I recently switched to Pop OS from windows and ngl I love Linux now. That Linux distro just works out of the box. My iPhone even syncs up automatically to the laptop using KDEConnect. The funny thing is that I used to use more of the command line in windows cause GUI was extremely slow to load, but on Linux I barely ever open it for everyday use 😂😅
Cool video tho 🙌
*sudo apt remove command-line*
don’t do this though it might ruin your installation OR do nothing.
windows lags behind in their file explorer, they added tabs yesterday lmao
@@CNWPlayer 💀
@@doge7831 ah yes mental outlaw viewer detected 🤝
@@atharva_raje i didn’t get the news from mental outlaw, rather on discord because people are acting like this is a big deal lmao.
I find it interesting how the author avoids the fact that both Apple and Microsoft are bloated do to spyware key loggers and other anti privacy features.
I am using Linux from 1 year , at the very beginning , it was very difficult for me to install packages of softwares , the terminal commands, but now I'm used to it , currently learning networking on linux , now i'm comfortable with that
So 1992 or so? I started in 1993 I think, would just compile my entire Linux install from scratch. So much fun. But these days I just use Windows (though my server software can run on either Windows or Linux).
@@Christobanistan I think he meant that he's been using it "for 1 year"
Use Linux Mint as an example and installing software is easier or the same as Windows.
The other groups using Linux are extending the life cycles of older machines. Also, hobbyists and tinkerers.
I think the rise of one board computers like Raspberry Pi, and eventually Linux smartphones like Pinephone, Pinephone Pro, and Librem5, are powerful little mini PC machines that run Linux.
I ran a Manjaro Linux desktop, with a USB type C dongle, attaching a HDMI monitor, a USB keyboard, USB-C power, with external speakers through the headphone jack. This experimental setup ran Firefox browser, then Libre Office with a simultaneous terminal running htop, which didn't max out the resources, surprisingly.
The point is it's possible, not yet easy, to run a typical session off a Pinephone pro, right now. I had at least a similar difficulty running running DEX from my Samsung device, but enjoy a pure GNU Linux desktop experience far better.
I believe this kind of experience will become common, as PI computers can be had cheaply, even for those of moderate means. It can revolutionize and begin to equalize educational opportunities for those of modest means.
I started researching Linux late last year when I got tired of how slow Windows 10 was on my pc. Early this year I took the plunge and replaced Windows with Ubuntu. I was pleasantly surprised. Not too long after I switched to Zorin 16 since my family liked having the layout of the desktop closer to Windows whereas I preferred the customization.
Zorin 💀
Windows is not slow on my PC
@@NightRaven5568 yes it is. You just don't know what fast is. A Linux PC can boot up in under a second. Now that's fast!
Linux is based and redpilled and therefore not for NPCs
you'd be surprised how much wokeness there is in some open source projects: fedora, Firefox, gnome. linux journalism (take a look at lunduke who report on these issues very well)
I tried really hard to switch to Linux. Unfortunately, I ended up returning to windows because of peripherals. My docking station for my laptop/desk setup did not work well with ubuntu, even though there were "ubuntu drivers" available. They never worked. Hopefully this changes in the future.
When it's time to switch PC, I would suggest to try System76.
using any operating system other than Windows just leads to a giant undertaking of finding workarounds. Just use Windows and don't worry about finding workarounds for everything
@@akpokemon Only if you have specialist hardware or software, which is unfortunate but increasingly rare.
When things don't work in Linux you file a bug report with the project and work with them to resolve the issue. You don't just sit idly by and wait for the next version hoping there's a fix. If you don't tell them there's a problem they don't know to fix it. I've had bugs fixed within hours of me filing a report. Pretty good service. But I'll do stuff like send debugging logs. Which really helps devs out. When I file a report there's a genuine bug.
@@akpokemon what's giant for you is trivial for others.
When talking about Linux & gaming I kept expecting to hear SteamOS mentioned, but it wasn't. I know it's mostly used on the Steam Deck, but there are efforts underway to make it a viable desktop alternative to Windows.
Just for clarity, I haven't used it, but may give it a try at some point in the future.
that also means that game support for Linux is going to get a lot better.
I tried Linux when Valve first started supporting it. I remember getting mods to run was a hassle.
@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive lots of things have changed after valve supported linux....
I have thought about getting a Steam Deck as a basic computer..We shall see.
@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive I don’t know about mods but online play is a pain. It’s good to test if a game works there but not every game works out of the box. If you play Fortnite good luck trying to make it run but Apex or Rocket League works great.
I think the real issue is compatibility with some of the most commonly used applications on home computers: Microsoft Office and games. There are all sorts of workarounds, but none of them work well.
Additionally, Linux & MacOS aren't compatible with older programs.
With Linux & MacOS, you would probably need to find tons of workarounds to run a 10 year old program.
Meanwhile, with Windows, you can somewhat easily run a program from 1995, with little to no workarounds.
yup. as someone going into an industry where microsoft office is the standard, i simply cant afford to use stuff like open office or libre office and risk a file getting corrupted or otherwise messed up when i or a client tries to open it. people in the comments keep saying 'i havent used office in years' which, good for you i guess? and what are the people that use it daily supposed to do? im guessing most would suggest a double boot system with having either OS on an SSD, but doesnt that defeat the purpose of avoiding the problems with windows like having to pay for a license? i might as well just pirate windows and be done with jt
you have containers for old programs, like Davinci Resolve. if devs don't want to target Linux it's just laziness
@@_holy__ghost Well, you don't need to use windows for everything if you need it only for M$ Office.
out of box ubuntu is great for browsing and that's it
Ideological reasons seriously? When Microsoft suddenly declares that "Your device will not be supported", that's when we need Linux... Especially poor developers like us...
I’ve been using kali Linux for daily use, I know it’s not ideal but it’s been my favourite and easiest to use for me
Have been using Linux as my primary OS since 2001, Suse 7.2. When OpenSuse Tumbleweed rolled out i switched to it, for rolling release updates, and it has been steady as rock. Windows - at work and for gaming. Currently running Tumbleweed on my EliteBook 835 G8 Ryzen 5850U/32GB/1TB. I use it for, among others, idealogical reasons, and it is superior if you want to make it so - security, privacy and choice. :)
"Why don't we?" I do.
People need Windows because of the programs on this platform, which allows everyone to have what they want, like and need on their PC. Nobody needs Linux and that's why it's not used. It's as simple as that. Each operating system has its own niche for providing the most cost-effective solution and Windows has dominated the desktop market for decades because of this. The failure of Linux on the desktop is a marketing issue, not a technical one..
Internally, Microsoft has used several operating systems since it bought Hotmail in 1997 (it ran under BSD) because there was no reason to change. The use of Linux at Microsoft is mainly due to the hybrid solutions that the company develops and uses - after all, it develops programs for Windows, Mac, Android, iOS and Linux.
Also, the majority of my fellow software developers program on Macs. Some use Linux, but my entire organization (an astronomical observatory) has the staff almost entirely on Mac, with Linux VMs for servers. We have about 25 developers and we all use MacBook Pros.
any particular reason for using Macs?
@@xybersurferYeah. We want to work on Unix machines that can easily be carried around, especially since sometimes we might have to do some emergency investigating at night if something goes wrong.
While Linux isn't technically a Unix, we use it a lot, but the ITOps department doesn't want to support Linux laptops: they only support specific desktop distributions.
None of us want to work on Windows and the ITOps department doesn't support Windows at all.
I was once a normal windows user. I switched to linux this week and I've never had a better experience using a computer. I use a lot of stuff that only works on windows sadly, so what I've done is I've got a windows virtual machine for my games, MS Office and Adobe CC. I was already comfortable using the windows command line, so switching over to the unix command line wasn't that difficult. If you have the right hardware to do virtualisation, it's not that difficult to do, and it's very much worth it.
What I won't ever do is push linux onto someone who really shouldn't be using it as their main OS. It's never a good idea. One day I'm sure linux will be ready for most consumers, but that day is not today, I don't even expect that day to come within the next 10 years.
Wowie zowie! somebody who Actually see both sides of the coin IN their comment! And yeah! I agree!
most people doesn't want to bother with the details of how things work and just want to get things they want done! And windows, more often than not, does the second thing in spades! and it's also the most common OS to teach!
and that's the sad reality that we don't want to see (but I freaking KNOW!), *aparently*; Linux is NOT for everyone!
Sure! it' has huge advantages over Windows in many areas; but not everyone is savvy and/or concious enough to figure out that you PROBABLY should, for example, back up everything in case you accidentally erase your entire disk because of ONE typo on your scripts! or are willingly and valiantly going adobe and beyond......to find out how to prevent your Linux distribution to clog your HDD with Giganourmous Log files just because your default BIOS settings SUCKS for your Linux Wi-Fi Driver.
the first one is probably, a common fear or ocurrence, give or take...the second....first hand experience that I needed to take out of my chest and probably one of the many, MANY things you SHOULD expect to live with.
@@MasterMarioMX Well it's nice to know there are some understanding linux users out there.
First, some of the better programs I want are on PC, or have more improved versions that are just on the PC side. None of my goodies are in linux. And I am so tired of lack of really great software for OSX that is PC-based.
Second problem is Mac OSX just works, unlike PC where things start glitching because you have something else open OR a recent KB update messed you up but you don't realize it until you realize you have some stuff is missing. Who has that kind of time? Either unmarried people or young folks or those already steeped in computer knowledge.
Which brings up the third item, not really a problem, just something I would like to again point out. Anyone notice how many (linux users) say they got into it while young? Hello? Having years more experience and time to iron and out understand errors and what affects what - you build up a knowledge base that those that have to go to work and take care of family and stuff at home just don't have time to plunk around to figure out. Either it works or it doesn't, that's why I like OSX.
Fourth thing is just the computer industry in general. Apple has been dragging the computer industry around by the nose, forcing huge changes that ripple out for several years at a time (i.e. x64 and now it's M1). You have 3 big players: Google, Apple and MS and probably Samsung. All with their ecosystems that some of which might be handy, but we hate being locked into a brand - much less the machine it works on - and all the datamining on us and extra bloatware toys they issue thinking we don't know what's going on! And that seems to be the crux. There needs to be a choice of generic brand machines that we can load our OS of choice and software of choice. That way, competition would help software in private sector, the software biggies would still profit from the business/education sector and offering private services, and individuals would get to select their machine and parts of choice. Problem is, in the past, anything something like that 'starts' it ends up costing us tons more, and they get all the tax breaks (thinking landline phones vs cell phones here) and charge higher fees to make up the old slack plus some.
Fifth, hackers learned to hack learning linux. That does not make me feel secure.
It doesn't matter how perfect mac os might be. I refuse to support a company that has destroyed productivity on laptops by changing the arrow keys, home/end/pgup/pgdn keys look.
This has made everything that isn't a heavy gaming laptop with an hour tops of battery life very miserable to use. (this is why I'm sticking with a 2015 Lenovo which was the last kind of non-gaming laptop with a keyboard that isn't miserable)
I everyday use Linux, never use windows, I am very happy using it 👍☺️
What happens when you're working with word or presentation documents?
@@elijahsokoni7997 LibreOffice (usually included with Linux unless you select the "minimal" install) has more/less the same level of compatibility, depending on the complexity (scripting, macros) of your documents.
I always used Linux. Windows is a prison for my mind. I like to be free
@@elijahsokoni7997 I do all this on LibreOffice software, it supports windows .doc .ppt files and everything, works same as MS Office but open source.
@@kabirycreator Not nearly as good as Office in my opinion.
I love Linux, but for most people it's still to much of a hassle.
Ironic that Linux is the preferred os for developers yet they have significantly less Games and software than Macos, a Os famed for not having alot of at least the former.
No market, sadly. If the gamers are normees that would never waste their time installing another OS, you can't just make games for the few developers.
This question is funny since the ones making the games are the very same developers.
Not really, with proton you can play way more games on Linux than mac, especially now that Mac is ARM only
Linux desktop OSes have come a long way in the last couple of years, I’m pleasantly surprised. From what I’ve seen on channels like The Linux Experiment I’m actually envious of some of the features these desktop UIs have that Mac or Windows don’t. Also the list of games that can run on Linux is ever increasing thanks to the Steam Deck.
I just bought an extra SSD drive so I could install Pop OS as I would like to move away from Mac and Windows that I use for work and gaming respectively
If you have a 4k monitor and want to set the fractional scaling, you’re more or less out of luck, also i have to say that The Linux Experiment only shows the good sides of Linux, but once you start using it, it‘s a whole lot different. Also, if you have an Nvidia card, you will not have a nice experience too, also screensharing/recording on Wayland sucks… Once you use it you’ll understand what i mean. Though good luck switching 😊
Please let us know… what are the features you are so envious about in Linux that are absent from Mac and windows
@@ddavid8888888
- much more UX friendly workspace management, no matter the desktop environment
- unmatched stability
- proper package manager, by default.
- timeshift with btrfs - best snapshot tools to just turn back time, given that windows 10 and 11 seems to be very hit or miss in that department
- much faster threading, which also results in copying large amounts of files much better
- better customizability, you are not limited to one desktop environment like on windows.
tl;dr: Better performance, better stability, better security, and you can fully customize it to your workflow. you are not limited.
@@tamino3777 its currently still not recommended to daily drive wayland. if you use that one, and then complain about issues, thats on you - for nvidia, x11 is generally recommended.
@@TVPInterpolation Don‘t tell me that, its default for nearly all distros nowadays
I am using Linux on a daily basis on my personal computer. I love it. Not because of ideology, but because of easy installing and updating, flexibility in UI and for its amazing performance. Linux surely IS superior over windows for personal use, if it wasn't for software support. But that's not linux's fault, is it? You can give me 1 example of a benefit of windows over linux that is not software support. I'll wait.
The only thing I can think of is hardware support (mainly NVIDIA), but that's not Linux's fault either.
i got 1. changing audio output without needing to unplug another audio device from the pc. took me almost a month scratching my head looking for a solution in an arch forum (i tried to daily drive garuda and zorin during this time) while experiencing +- 30 fps performance penalty in dota 2 that is native on linux itself figured it just wasnt worth it and went back to windows
Precisely.
All of the examples used in the last section of "things Linux is not good at" are things that were never designed for Linux (or were actively sabotaged by the developers like the Microsoft Office Suite is). This boils down to software support. Ironically, if the roles are reversed and you try getting something designed for Linux running on Windows or MacOS, you're going to have a MUCH harder time of it.
Also, I (personally) think it's rather unfair of the creator of the video to make the blanket statement that Linux doesn't have good support. Linux has excellent support!... just not from the manufacturers. If hardware developers made drivers for Linux and software developers made Linux versions of their products (which for games made in some engines is as simple as clicking the "Export for Linux" button), we would be having a much different conversation.
But pavucontrol / pulse audio volume control exists and is as easy as the Windows equivalent
Maybe it's user error on my part, but I faced an issue where performing an update on Linux would sometimes break things, mostly due to config files being overwritten. Windows updates can sometimes cause problems too, but it seems to be more rare.
Another thing is that it seems that in Linux there are always 10+ ways to achieve a goal (for example having a process run at startup), with it not always being easy to determine which is the best option. This can however also be viewed as a positive, as it provides flexibility.
I've been using Linux for about 3 years, I started, just tinkering with a Raspberry Pi I bought, then decided to use it as a proper desktop. I do like windows, but the customisation and the quickness and efficiency of the Terminal plus Scripting, just give Linux that edge.
I have used Linux for a long time now, not to save money, however, that was the initial motivation behind it. I use it for learning programming and sysadmin work. I also have more fun with Linux as opposed to Windows. There's no downside as even the file system is managed in a more sane manner. Maintenance is not as important as it was in Windows.
Eventually Microsoft will probably have to start using Linux for its file manager. NFTS really sucks. To many of us it is a tool to get something done, not something to have "fun" with. For those of us, Linux sucks. Different strokes for different folks.
Computers are not for fun for me, outside of games.
I speak for a vast overwhelming majority of users.
I use Windows at work, but at home I've been using Linux for ten years. It matters a lot what linux distro you use. For example Linux Mint is very easy to use. When using MInt, command line as rarely needed as in Windows.
yes, most hate that get to linux is simply of people starting are getting wromg distro
nowadays many things are just magical in linux... i hard way more issues on windows system that my linux system
I used to work in a depo repairing lenovo computers. We would use mint to quickly test the functions of different things like the camera and quickly check how much battery life there was and after the repair we couldn't send it to quality for testing without 25% available. I never had a instance were mint didn't work strait off. My only issue I have is with the admin password. I want to change it to secure the os and am not able. Also came with a nice bundle of programs that people like when getting a new os and requires very little resources and is light weight.
@@vaisakhkm783 Probably people that read some forum post telling them to "install gentoo", and took it seriously.
I actually use the license free version of Windows, but that one has a watermark on the bottom right part of the screen with a short text tutorial on how to activate windows. Apart from that there is no mayor drawback and it works since 5 years.
You know you can remove that easily for free right?
That isn’t “license free”, just not activated.
@@fmlazar whoosh
the drawback is Microsoft harvesting and distributing all your personal information, while not having the freedom to study, redistribute, modify and share your modifications of the OS as you see fit
I work as a local computer consultant, mainly helping retirees with their computer woes. Sometimes when they buy new machines, they donate their old ones to me. Often, they are really old, and are running crippled with Win7 and 4gb RAM. When I get these machines, I wipe the HD and install Linux Mint whilst watching the news with my wife. I am constantly amazed how Mint puts new life into these machines, and how well Mint recognizes webcams, network adapters, wifi adapters, soundcards, video drivers etc. Occasionally I have an old SSD HD lying around, so I install one of those, and then these old machine actually become snappy. Unfortunately, they are hard to sell, even for $50 or less, because they are not "mainstream".
Windows is meant for us average users. And it will incorporate more and more Unix like structures. Just to have or to own a proprietary product you have to write the lines of code by yourself or your company.It's also very helpful to know to use the command line on DOS /Windows
Windows is meant for users who prefer to see persistent pop ups for bloatware.
I am a backend engineer and I use Linux everyday - both on my official laptop and in multiple servers where I have to run my code. Most of my personal works are also done in Linux (Now you have google docs, sheets etc. that run directly on your browser 😁). But with WSL2, many of my colleagues are now switching to Windows. WSL provides you with a Linux within your Windows laptop. I think this is a good initiative by Microsoft. You get the best of both worlds.
Well, agreed WSL2 makes it very easy to test your linux builds (as .NET Core apps can run in Linux ) but you can also deploy them to a docker container to test with. I'm a Windows user trying out Linux and possibly switching to Rider. What did they like better about windows? Was it Visual Studio that pulled them in?
@@nicholash8021 actually docker uses wsl
Also, I do like Linux for its stability and its opening the curtain, but, as the video describes, most people don't feel comfortable enough to mess with something that feels too prohibited. Even searching the .minecraft folder in appdata looked like wizardry to me when I was 12.
What Linux needs is a big laptop building company company in a strained enough relationship with Microsoft to be willing to jump ship and distribute a Windows look-alike based on Linux, using much of Linux open source software, so that a big enough chunk of people get on with Linux.
Linux needs a commercial enough version (which there are) but also needs an OEM that ships their machine with Linux on it to the general public.
Also, the software is so fragmented and disconnected that only the kernel and some software would benefit from the enlarged user-base. Just the fact that Windows is pre-shipped with every major computer (except MacOS, but they're another story) is a big factor.
The biggest brake on such a shift is, in my opinion, the elitist approach some people in the Linux community have. Not only aren't they happy that a bunch of normies would invade their elitist OS, but they wouldn't like how Linux would have to "dirty its hands" in regard to open source stuff and big companies support. The Linux community seems to me like a tribe of ooga booga people listening to the occasional ooga booga RUclipsr preaching how they are the crusaders, the righteous people following the right gospel, instead of a group of people using the same tool, like all mechanics use a wrench and a screwdriver.
This is my unpopular opinion, and my TED finishes here
I have tried switching from windows to linux but I've unfortunately been the few with the short end of the stick.
I quickly learned and adjusted to command line and how the OS works, but since I build my own PC for gaming it wasn't able to take full advantage of all my specs.
I am also a music producer and pretty much all the music software I use didn't work with Linux and ones that did just weren't worth it.
Linux was fun for a time tho, just wish there was more support for the things I actually do.
It's really a "chicken and the egg" issue - once enough people are using Linux as their desktop / laptop driver, software developers will follow user demand. Desktop Linux today bears little resemblance to its predecessors 25 years ago, anymore than Windows 10/11 resembles Windows 3.1 or DOS.
@curtvaughan2836 Yeah, whenever the devs make my Music workstation compatible with Linux it'll be perfect for me.
The gaming bit on Linux seems to be all right for now.
@@curtvaughan2836 Reaper or Bitwig are excellent Linux-native DAWs and most Windows VSTs can work on Linux using yabridge. And there's a good number of native Linux VSTs. Also VCV Rack is an amazing virtual eurorack system and is available for free.
Yeah, I really only play Minecraft, but the DAW Ableton Live as well as many big software synths like Nexus and Sylenth1 are holding me back from fully switching to Linux from macOS.