I’m seriously impressed! Not about the gadget but the fact that you are so patient. After 5 trips back and forth I would have gone home and printed out the return label and sent that device back to the seller! I almost believed it would would, boy I was so wrong! Stay safe and healthy.
AND!!! If you check out the corresponding article that goes with this vid, you'll also see a pic of James and his Georgia state science fair project from 1984! Once a science nerd, always a science nerd! 😍 FIND IT HERE: www.thefitrv.com/rv-tips/rv-weight-without-scales-testing-the-curt-betterweigh/ Be well, everyone! xo Stef
This isn't the first inaccurate report I've seen for this device. Unfortunately, I purchased one after seeing a positive review and have yet to install it. Thanks, James and Stef. Keep up the great work.
I bought one a few months ago as I'm a newbie at this and was wanting to get it right. I have a pretty long drive to a cat scale, I think I'll try the paper and pencil, calculator method - I assume the trailer does not need to be super level for that? My driveway has a slight slope. Maybe my RV dealer has a Sherline they can let me borrow, don't want to buy one for such rare use.Thanks.
“The things (we) do for you people!” How true! You both have a lot more patience than I do. But you haven’t written the product off until you do a thorough investigation. I love your appreciation for scientific research. 🙏🏼
I considered purchasing this item (pka HaulGauge, before Curt bought them) as the science behind the technology seemed to make sense. Supposedly, these devices can also be used to measure trailer weight, tongue weight, GCVW, etc. I watched a few other reviews that skipped the calibration process (or simply mentioned that you needed to calibrate the device, first). Your review showed me that this is not something I should get. I'll stick with Cat scales, and probably just get a Sherline scale for periodic tongue weight measurements. Thanks for doing this!!! Cheers.
Yay! The comments are open! Thank you! Very interesting product, although I guess one of the big things it misses, even if it’s accurate, is the different weights for the different axles, especially when a trailer is involved.
Another way to measure your vehicle weight without a weight scale is to measure the area of contact of each tire, then multiply by the tire pressure of that tire to obtain the amount of weight that tire is supporting. Add the calculated weight for each tire to get the vehicle weight. Bonus: you'll also get the weight distribution. Another method is to measure suspension deflection. Level ground is not required, but is recommended for accurate weight distribution. Suspension deflection is probably less accurate. The accuracy of each method is left as an exercise for the reader. The CAT scale "Class IIIL scales are allowed one division, or a 20 pound variance off zero for each 10,000 pounds of weight applied." This could be used to apply a correction factor to each manual method.
The cost of gas was probably right up there with the CAT Scale Cost.......hehe....but I think I speak for all when I say, "We appreciate your efforts, time, diligence, and rigor of test......!"
Bill Nye the science guy showed how to weigh a vehicle without scales many years ago. All you need is two pieces of paper, a tape measure, a pressure gauge, and a calculator. Place the paper in front and behind a tire on concrete surface sliding toward tire until they stop. Measure the distance in inches. Place the paper on each side against the tire and measure in inches. Calc LxW to get sq inches. Take tire pressure. Multiply sq inches x psi= weight on tire +- a few %. Do this for all tires and add the totals for total weight. Accurate dimensions necessary for more accurate weight. Probably more accurate than that piece of junk you had to pay for and burn gas. Respectfully, Kevin
Watching you drive back and forth was hilarious! No “weigh” (haha) I’d do that in our 36’ Class A DP. I guess I’ll be going to CAT each time. Thx for the review.
Thank You for saving s time & money. One wants to be accurate in finding exact weight. Towing a 35ft fifth wheel, we choose to do it right the first time!
I got a Haul Guage thats similar to this and its pretty much spot on. It says its within 5% on the instructions of being accurate but Ive found thats its been within 150 to 175 pounds under or over what a cat scale tells me mine is. I'm never close to being top end weight for me so thats close enough for me to avoid going to the car scale everytime. I heard that curt bought the rights to weigh gauge but I can't confirm that and if they did weigh is still being sold as a separate product.
We love your scientific assessments, James! I have personally shared your toilet paper video about a dozen times! Thanks to you and Stef for taking the time to save us all money! And yes, Stef, major “wife points” to you! (‘Hat’ girl) 😘
Eileen! Well hey there workout sister!!! Hope you're still rocking my FitRV workouts! I'm filming a new resistance bands one tomorrow WOOT WOOT! Let me know if you have any requests; I haven't started planning it yet! 💪xoStef
The Fit RV Yay! Finally got my Bodylastics kit (backordered during lockdown), and been using your original resistance band workout (you know, laminated!). Thanks for helping me stay fit on the road. 😘
Thanks for the video!! If that technology was reliable and accurate, heavy trucks would use them. But they dont. Save your money and use the proper scales. Stay gold.
Dear Steph, you get maximum "patient wife" points for this one for sure! My wife not only would have given up RVing all together for good but I am pretty sure she would have handed over divorce papers by the end of the experiment! Love you guys and thank you both for doing these things so we don't have to.
LOLLL! I’ve been dealing with James’ crazy half-baked schemes since the day I met him. 😂 I mean, he even ropes me in sometimes. Did you see our evening gown at the CAT Scale episode? 😳 ruclips.net/video/cnu-7NVBVh8/видео.html
OMG that was actually one of our favourite episodes! Fabulous dress for weighing! We have learned so much from you guys (while laughing and having fun!). Love you guys and everything you do, thank you so much
I used portable scales but thought if this would work it would be nice for every trip but I’m sad that it isn’t that accurate but I didn’t actually feel it would be. At least I saved money. Thanks for the video. I guess im stuck lugging around scales
I tried it but returned it to Amazon out of frustration. I think if you start with a completely empty stock vehicle as a baseline then add your cargo it probably is accurate in measuring how much cargo you added but who wants to empty out their truck every time they want to weigh it.
Thank you for saving us all a lot of problems. I have no CAT scale anywhere near me so I would have jumped on this item and believed it. If you can’t make it work I most certainly wouldn’t get it right. The principle appears sound, but 30 back and forth trips to calibrate, tells me something is really off.
That was.... wait I need to drive forward........ ok backward.......... ok forward....... ok backward.... ahh comments calibrated! That was funstrating to watch 🤣🤪 Thanks for the review. Look forward to hearing what support team says.
I was considering to buy one of those since I saw one at my trailer repair shop for 195$ Canadian although I found some on Amazon cheaper but man I watched two reviews and I have to say this guy had a patience I would break that crap 💩 in no time . What a waste of time to test it They should pay people for tolerating their junk.
I’m going to guess that wind is part of the problem If you could do it inside a hanger.....yeah me thinks a weigh station is easier to find and just a bit quicker! LOL
When you call them see if you can find out what RPM or MPH you should accelerate to for an accurate reading. That gas pedal judgment thing does not make enough sense.
I have a Sherline tongue weight scale. I developed a procedure to get individual wheel weights on my trailer using it. My procedure has been duplicated by a guy using a force jack and the procedure has been peer reviewed by several engineers. Based on adding up the four wheels and comparing to CAT scale tickets, I am getting individual wheel weights within 50 pounds of the "true" weights. Not bad for a scale I paid $140 for some years back.
LOLLLL! You think WATCHING it was bad.... going back and forth on that stretch of road was sort of like a fair ride gone wrong. I'm still not fully recovered!
Interesting. You probably saved a lot of people some money with this one. We weighed our TK once back in 2016 when we had the van fully loaded plus a full Stowaway2 and bikes on board. Still had 1500 lbs freeboard. Have since dropped the Stowaway2 and switched to 2 BB lithium batteries. I see no reason to ever weigh it again.
In all fairness on their website, it says it's only 90% accurate meaning to allow for 10% +/- and the last measurement was within that 10% error window. They never claimed it to be 100% accurate. There are way too many variables for this thing or anything like it to ever be 100% correct.
I find the determination of the force value from the OBD port to be very suspicious. According to their website, "Force is determined by measuring slip across the torque converter as the vehicle accelerates." That determination is dependent on transmission temperature and oil viscosity, transmission gearing, engine performance, OBD computer performance, and tire performance, all of which are subject to major variations. As your test showed, they missed the weight value by 10%, not very good.
Always love your videos. Hey got a question for you. That toilet paper video for which paper do you believe dissolves the best. Do you still think the results would be the same after COVID-19 messed with the markets supplies? I mean do you think they still make it the same? And all of us appreciate you scientific Analysis with real objective data?
As a side note back in may when all of us where looking for toilet paper. A 53ft. Trailer wrecked and what was on the side of the road was a massive one roll of toilet paper that was in cut it measures around 20 ft long and a diameter to fill the inside of the trailer. And it was considered ruins because it was in a wreck. I wish I had thought fast enough to get a picture of it. We do use that brand and have found it. It also seams to tear easier.
So obviously it was pre-calibrated since it recognized your vin, so why didn't you weigh the vehicle at the CAT scale to compare before trying to re-calibrate.
A ton of great info James! Or was it only 1100lbs.? Er, or perhaps 2430lbs? And did Steph have to get a barf bad? And did that go into the lucite black tank you used to test black tank flushers?
I was expecting you to put that thing under each wheel to get a four corner weight and thus total weight. Using ECU data is probably not that accurate when extrapolated
Could the discrepancies in weight be due to the weight at the CAT scale was static and the dynamic weights from motion were increased due to center of gravity and weight shift during acceleration? My understanding was this device is more for pickup trucks and not an RV that has wonky center of gravity that could be augment just based on something as simple as having your overhead cupboards stocked or not. Perhaps it would be more fair to compare with something with less dramatic weight shift? Thank you for the video and production!
In a word, no. Any change in the effective center of gravity as a result of acceleration isn't going to change the weight the vehicle. The apparent mass of the vehicle is governed solely by the amount of force applied to it and the resulting acceleration. The applied force, in turn, is the result of the torque applied to the wheels divided by the wheel's radius. But there's really no way to know what that torque really is. It looks like the "Better Weigh" device is picking up some kind of engine torque reading from the vehicle's computer, but it's not at all clear how that data is acquired and how accurate it is. Moreover, it's constantly changing, and then it's multiplied by the gears in transmission, and possibly increased further by an unknown amount by the torque converter, and...it's a mess. There are simply far too many variables to be able to use this method to accurately measure the weight (mass) of a vehicle.
Wow. I would have believed the first measure, not haven't previously weighed in the past, and probably be driving unsafely. Seems to be a big thumbs down as a result of your test.
I have one of these devices and once properly calibrated mine was only off by 20 lbs from what the CAT scale said. Also you dont calibrate it with the trailer connected. It's made to be used with a single vehicle . Once calibrated to that vehicle it remembers the weight of that vehicle then you hook your trailer to it and accelerate one time to 15 mph. It then calculates your total weight of truck and trailer and trailer weight alone by subtracting the known calibrated weight of the tow vehicle from the total weight. It's helps to determine it's accuracy if you know the empty weight of both your truck and trailer beforehand. Once calibrated properly and you do get your your accurate weight readings of both truck and trailer it can be used to calculate your payload as you load both truck and trailer.
The fit RV of the Fit RV isn't so fit after all??😂 The reason Lance lost 1,260.00 pounds is that you made him jog up and down that parking lot thirty times! (Also the cat...)
The real utility of this product is unclear. If you need to know your weight before you use it, then perhaps it could be useful if stored that info as a baseline. Then anytime you added (new gear), more passengers, etc. or removed weight (old gear) from your van, then it could provide the new weight. However that is not clear. So really very poor product positioning from a marketing standpoint. Oh yeah and it actually needs to calculate and display the accurate weight after all the calibration BS. 30 back and forth is ridiculous.
Dear Sir James, you just saved me .1K bucks, so thank you for that. So just for conversations sake, let me entertain you with this thought, or idea if you will. My trailer is sitting in the driveway, "it's a TT by the way" and is not yet loaded for our next camping adventure. :( That being said, I can't help but wonder why my trailer jack isn't already sitting on a scale, possibly one that is built right into the tongue jack! With this idea we could as responsible load bearing haulers know what our tongue weight is, and adjust our WDH accordingly each time we hook up. Thanks again man, hope you get rich off of this idea...
This useless gizmo would have gone back after 2 tries. You might want to review your video from 2 years ago on how to get it done EASY at the truck scales.
Hello my friend, the things you do for “you people” is not accurate. If you want to do something for “you people” Flip that thing out the window. Stay thirsty my friend
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I’m seriously impressed!
Not about the gadget but the fact that you are so patient.
After 5 trips back and forth I would have gone home and printed out the return label and sent that device back to the seller!
I almost believed it would would, boy I was so wrong!
Stay safe and healthy.
LOL! Yep, the 30 trips for calibration is a little ridiculous. And we did it TWICE!!!
AND!!! If you check out the corresponding article that goes with this vid, you'll also see a pic of James and his Georgia state science fair project from 1984! Once a science nerd, always a science nerd! 😍 FIND IT HERE: www.thefitrv.com/rv-tips/rv-weight-without-scales-testing-the-curt-betterweigh/ Be well, everyone! xo Stef
This isn't the first inaccurate report I've seen for this device. Unfortunately, I purchased one after seeing a positive review and have yet to install it. Thanks, James and Stef. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Thomas. It's disappointing to hear others have also shared similar reports. We really wanted this to work!
I bought one a few months ago as I'm a newbie at this and was wanting to get it right. I have a pretty long drive to a cat scale, I think I'll try the paper and pencil, calculator method - I assume the trailer does not need to be super level for that? My driveway has a slight slope. Maybe my RV dealer has a Sherline they can let me borrow, don't want to buy one for such rare use.Thanks.
As a Truck Driver I can tell you Cat scales are super accurate.
“The things (we) do for you people!” How true! You both have a lot more patience than I do. But you haven’t written the product off until you do a thorough investigation. I love your appreciation for scientific research. 🙏🏼
You and your videographer deserve a big BIG thumb up.
Totally consistent with the majority of reviews I've read...thanks for the confirmation. Believe I'll stick with the CAT scales! Just not that hard.
Never laughed so much for a long time. Your patience and resilience appear to know no bounds lol.
You are more patient than I am! I’ve seen these offered and always wondered how accurate they are. I sorta know now. Thanks!
I considered purchasing this item (pka HaulGauge, before Curt bought them) as the science behind the technology seemed to make sense. Supposedly, these devices can also be used to measure trailer weight, tongue weight, GCVW, etc. I watched a few other reviews that skipped the calibration process (or simply mentioned that you needed to calibrate the device, first). Your review showed me that this is not something I should get. I'll stick with Cat scales, and probably just get a Sherline scale for periodic tongue weight measurements. Thanks for doing this!!! Cheers.
Steph, you have my sympathies on this one!
Thx, sister! That's all I want. People to see what I go through. 🤩😆
Yay! The comments are open! Thank you! Very interesting product, although I guess one of the big things it misses, even if it’s accurate, is the different weights for the different axles, especially when a trailer is involved.
I also had this thing pop up on Amazon. You just saved me a ton* of cash !
*weight estimated by better weigh , results may vary
Another way to measure your vehicle weight without a weight scale is to measure the area of contact of each tire, then multiply by the tire pressure of that tire to obtain the amount of weight that tire is supporting. Add the calculated weight for each tire to get the vehicle weight. Bonus: you'll also get the weight distribution.
Another method is to measure suspension deflection. Level ground is not required, but is recommended for accurate weight distribution.
Suspension deflection is probably less accurate. The accuracy of each method is left as an exercise for the reader. The CAT scale "Class IIIL scales are allowed one division, or a 20 pound variance off zero for each 10,000 pounds of weight applied." This could be used to apply a correction factor to each manual method.
That sucks. I was hoping this would make life a little easier. Appreciate you making the sacrifice vetting it out. 👍
Wow you are persistent!!!! Keep up the good work!!! Stef, you deserve a reward!!!
I agree! 🤩 🏆
@@Thefitrv 🏅👍😉
LMAO! That was so funny and good. James, you are such a science nerd hoot! Loved the video!
LOL! Glad you liked it! Sincerely, The 🤓 Nerd Hoot
The cost of gas was probably right up there with the CAT Scale Cost.......hehe....but I think I speak for all when I say, "We appreciate your efforts, time, diligence, and rigor of test......!"
LOL, thanks John, we appreciate that!
Thanks for taking the time!
Bill Nye the science guy showed how to weigh a vehicle without scales many years ago.
All you need is two pieces of paper, a tape measure, a pressure gauge, and a calculator.
Place the paper in front and behind a tire on concrete surface sliding toward tire until they stop. Measure the distance in inches. Place the paper on each side against the tire and measure in inches. Calc LxW to get sq inches. Take tire pressure. Multiply sq inches x psi= weight on tire +- a few %. Do this for all tires and add the totals for total weight. Accurate dimensions necessary for more accurate weight.
Probably more accurate than that piece of junk you had to pay for and burn gas.
Respectfully, Kevin
Watching you drive back and forth was hilarious! No “weigh” (haha) I’d do that in our 36’ Class A DP. I guess I’ll be going to CAT each time. Thx for the review.
Thank You for saving s time & money.
One wants to be accurate in finding exact weight. Towing a 35ft fifth wheel, we choose to do it right the first time!
I got a Haul Guage thats similar to this and its pretty much spot on. It says its within 5% on the instructions of being accurate but Ive found thats its been within 150 to 175 pounds under or over what a cat scale tells me mine is. I'm never close to being top end weight for me so thats close enough for me to avoid going to the car scale everytime. I heard that curt bought the rights to weigh gauge but I can't confirm that and if they did weigh is still being sold as a separate product.
Saved me $150 dollars lol. I’m sure it won’t give an accurate reading. It’s basically an estimate ball part. Thanks for the video
We love your scientific assessments, James! I have personally shared your toilet paper video about a dozen times! Thanks to you and Stef for taking the time to save us all money! And yes, Stef, major “wife points” to you! (‘Hat’ girl) 😘
Eileen! Well hey there workout sister!!! Hope you're still rocking my FitRV workouts! I'm filming a new resistance bands one tomorrow WOOT WOOT! Let me know if you have any requests; I haven't started planning it yet! 💪xoStef
The Fit RV Yay! Finally got my Bodylastics kit (backordered during lockdown), and been using your original resistance band workout (you know, laminated!). Thanks for helping me stay fit on the road. 😘
Thanks for the video!!
If that technology was reliable and accurate, heavy trucks would use them.
But they dont. Save your money and use the proper scales.
Stay gold.
Dear Steph, you get maximum "patient wife" points for this one for sure! My wife not only would have given up RVing all together for good but I am pretty sure she would have handed over divorce papers by the end of the experiment! Love you guys and thank you both for doing these things so we don't have to.
LOLLL! I’ve been dealing with James’ crazy half-baked schemes since the day I met him. 😂 I mean, he even ropes me in sometimes. Did you see our evening gown at the CAT Scale episode? 😳 ruclips.net/video/cnu-7NVBVh8/видео.html
OMG that was actually one of our favourite episodes! Fabulous dress for weighing! We have learned so much from you guys (while laughing and having fun!). Love you guys and everything you do, thank you so much
I used portable scales but thought if this would work it would be nice for every trip but I’m sad that it isn’t that accurate but I didn’t actually feel it would be. At least I saved money. Thanks for the video. I guess im stuck lugging around scales
I tried it but returned it to Amazon out of frustration. I think if you start with a completely empty stock vehicle as a baseline then add your cargo it probably is accurate in measuring how much cargo you added but who wants to empty out their truck every time they want to weigh it.
I think the 12$ at the truck scale is the way to go 👍 Thanks for the info.
Thank you for saving us all a lot of problems. I have no CAT scale anywhere near me so I would have jumped on this item and believed it. If you can’t make it work I most certainly wouldn’t get it right. The principle appears sound, but 30 back and forth trips to calibrate, tells me something is really off.
Yep, that's our fear. Others will purchase and trust the info they get. Here's hoping Curt works out the kinks!
That was.... wait I need to drive forward........ ok backward.......... ok forward....... ok backward.... ahh comments calibrated! That was funstrating to watch 🤣🤪 Thanks for the review. Look forward to hearing what support team says.
LOL! Yep, we’ve reached out to Curt and haven’t heard back yet. Will make sure to follow up!
You definitely took one for the team on this one! 8-)
Thanks for posting it and saving me the cost of this piece of junk.
I was considering to buy one of those since I saw one at my trailer repair shop for 195$ Canadian although I found some on Amazon cheaper but man I watched two reviews and I have to say this guy had a patience I would break that crap 💩 in no time . What a waste of time to test it
They should pay people for tolerating their junk.
I’m going to guess that wind is part of the problem
If you could do it inside a hanger.....yeah me thinks a weigh station is easier to find and just a bit quicker! LOL
This episode felt like ground hog day...back and forth... ;-)
Oh trust me, it definitely felt like Groundhog's Day!!!
When you call them see if you can find out what RPM or MPH you should accelerate to for an accurate reading. That gas pedal judgment thing does not make enough sense.
I have a Sherline tongue weight scale. I developed a procedure to get individual wheel weights on my trailer using it. My procedure has been duplicated by a guy using a force jack and the procedure has been peer reviewed by several engineers. Based on adding up the four wheels and comparing to CAT scale tickets, I am getting individual wheel weights within 50 pounds of the "true" weights. Not bad for a scale I paid $140 for some years back.
Man. That was like going out for ice cream but the only flavor was chunky fish.
PS. thanks for doing that
LOLLLL! You think WATCHING it was bad.... going back and forth on that stretch of road was sort of like a fair ride gone wrong. I'm still not fully recovered!
Nice analogy!....chunky fish flavor
LOL
@@Thefitrv thanking God for good people like you who'll see the task thru!!
Interesting. You probably saved a lot of people some money with this one. We weighed our TK once back in 2016 when we had the van fully loaded plus a full Stowaway2 and bikes on board. Still had 1500 lbs freeboard. Have since dropped the Stowaway2 and switched to 2 BB lithium batteries. I see no reason to ever weigh it again.
Hilarious. Amusing. Took my mind off the smoke and the virus....damn thing worth its weight in gold! 🙃
Glad you liked, Charla! Stay safe and well!
And it calculates exactly how much gold you're carrying!
In all fairness on their website, it says it's only 90% accurate meaning to allow for 10% +/- and the last measurement was within that 10% error window. They never claimed it to be 100% accurate. There are way too many variables for this thing or anything like it to ever be 100% correct.
actually they claim Accurate within + / - 5%
Thanks for your hard work, what a hilarious video
Glad you liked! Seems like our best vids are the ones that don’t go as planned... though it sure would have been nice if the product worked!!!
I find the determination of the force value from the OBD port to be very suspicious. According to their website, "Force is determined by measuring slip across the torque converter as the vehicle accelerates." That determination is dependent on transmission temperature and oil viscosity, transmission gearing, engine performance, OBD computer performance, and tire performance, all of which are subject to major variations. As your test showed, they missed the weight value by 10%, not very good.
Always love your videos. Hey got a question for you. That toilet paper video for which paper do you believe dissolves the best. Do you still think the results would be the same after COVID-19 messed with the markets supplies? I mean do you think they still make it the same? And all of us appreciate you scientific Analysis with real objective data?
Interesting question. We haven’t even been able to find Charmin Ultra Soft (the winner!) since COVID started.... so we’d certainly love to know, too!
As a side note back in may when all of us where looking for toilet paper. A 53ft. Trailer wrecked and what was on the side of the road was a massive one roll of toilet paper that was in cut it measures around 20 ft long and a diameter to fill the inside of the trailer. And it was considered ruins because it was in a wreck. I wish I had thought fast enough to get a picture of it.
We do use that brand and have found it. It also seams to tear easier.
Please update after call curt customer service. :)
Will do! :)
Seems like this product is a solution looking for a problem.
...when you have nothing else to do and you are bored 🤣🤣🤣
Is it possible that the upside-down and at an angle position wasn't selected correctly?
So obviously it was pre-calibrated since it recognized your vin, so why didn't you weigh the vehicle at the CAT scale to compare before trying to re-calibrate.
Because it wouldn't have changed anything and I wanted to pay for the weigh once.
Take advantage of the Amazon free return
Thank you for your investment, I'm sure this wasn't easy. I can imagine being a frustrating process. I'm glad I came upon your video. Thanks again. 👍
A ton of great info James!
Or was it only 1100lbs.? Er, or perhaps 2430lbs? And did Steph have to get a barf bad? And did that go into the lucite black tank you used to test black tank flushers?
LOL! Luckily, no barfing happened in the making of this video. And good thing too since we have a composting (no water) toilet and no black tank!!! 😳
Bought a "Tow-Haul Gauge" probably same as one Curt use rebranded , same issue , off by 10% = or -
Clearly, if I want to know what my van weights, a CAT scale is the way to go. I think Mel would approve.
thank you...you save me money...
You are welcome!
Apparently it can measure if your dark matter tanks are full or not.
LOL! Maybe you get better results if you weigh at the edge of a wormhole? 🤷♂️
@@Thefitrv Or maybe going back and forth all those times really did affect the local gravity.
And now you need a transmission service LOL
I need a video on how the cat scales works
We’ve done one!!! Here it is: 🤩 ruclips.net/video/cnu-7NVBVh8/видео.html
Wouldn’t the RV get a tiny bit lighter each back and forth trip🤔
lol!
Interesting gadget. How accurate that "scale" is claimed to be? Btw you have error on your error table. Error at fourth run is 1260 not 1080.
Thanks! It's fixed! :) And also, CAT Scales are reputed to be quite accurate.
@@Thefitrv Actually I did meant how accurate is that curt thing. it is +-5%
Nice video!
That 700 pounds comes from either Stef’s extra imaginary height or Mel’s hidden treats and toys!
LOL!!! I am 5'6" people! If James says otherwise in a video, DO NOT BELIEVE!
I can only think that maybe the truck weight scale wasn’t calibrated?
I was expecting you to put that thing under each wheel to get a four corner weight and thus total weight. Using ECU data is probably not that accurate when extrapolated
Could the discrepancies in weight be due to the weight at the CAT scale was static and the dynamic weights from motion were increased due to center of gravity and weight shift during acceleration? My understanding was this device is more for pickup trucks and not an RV that has wonky center of gravity that could be augment just based on something as simple as having your overhead cupboards stocked or not.
Perhaps it would be more fair to compare with something with less dramatic weight shift?
Thank you for the video and production!
In a word, no. Any change in the effective center of gravity as a result of acceleration isn't going to change the weight the vehicle. The apparent mass of the vehicle is governed solely by the amount of force applied to it and the resulting acceleration.
The applied force, in turn, is the result of the torque applied to the wheels divided by the wheel's radius.
But there's really no way to know what that torque really is. It looks like the "Better Weigh" device is picking up some kind of engine torque reading from the vehicle's computer, but it's not at all clear how that data is acquired and how accurate it is. Moreover, it's constantly changing, and then it's multiplied by the gears in transmission, and possibly increased further by an unknown amount by the torque converter, and...it's a mess. There are simply far too many variables to be able to use this method to accurately measure the weight (mass) of a vehicle.
Nice video but did you add the passenger weight and extra items in your truck to the gvwr?
whats the difference he put the whole truck on a scale, he knows the weight
Wow. I would have believed the first measure, not haven't previously weighed in the past, and probably be driving unsafely. Seems to be a big thumbs down as a result of your test.
Indeed, the results were pretty disappointing.
You folks don't so anymore campervan reviews ??? 🙋🏼♀️🤔
App: "why don't you just tell me how much the vehicle ways?"
leo p “why don’t you just TELL me the name of the movie you want to see!”
Weight Scale at Pioneer Landscape Supply Free
Brutal.................................
Uh? I guess this is not made for a 5th wheel or TT. Can't imagine doing that calibration with a tow behind. 😟
I have one of these devices and once properly calibrated mine was only off by 20 lbs from what the CAT scale said. Also you dont calibrate it with the trailer connected. It's made to be used with a single vehicle . Once calibrated to that vehicle it remembers the weight of that vehicle then you hook your trailer to it and accelerate one time to 15 mph. It then calculates your total weight of truck and trailer and trailer weight alone by subtracting the known calibrated weight of the tow vehicle from the total weight. It's helps to determine it's accuracy if you know the empty weight of both your truck and trailer beforehand. Once calibrated properly and you do get your your accurate weight readings of both truck and trailer it can be used to calculate your payload as you load both truck and trailer.
I had a Curt brake controller. It was junk too. I will never buy anymore of their equipment.
I've used many curt products towing my camper including the Bluetooth brake controller, never had any issues.
For $99 I can get 8 ACCURATE weighs at a truck stop scale, and have money left over for breakfast, just saying..........
The fit RV of the Fit RV isn't so fit after all??😂 The reason Lance lost 1,260.00 pounds is that you made him jog up and down that parking lot thirty times! (Also the cat...)
LOL! I had told James after it weighed so heavy... 'well we DID eat a lot last week' 😂😳
@@Thefitrv Too funny!
I was all excited to think we could weigh the rig without going to a scale....then 100 takeoffs later...well, I wasn't. Too bad.
Yep. We were bummed, too.
Poor Stef...
Tell me about it! Living with James is one big half-baked adventure. 😂
Poor Stef :(
The real utility of this product is unclear. If you need to know your weight before you use it, then perhaps it could be useful if stored that info as a baseline. Then anytime you added (new gear), more passengers, etc. or removed weight (old gear) from your van, then it could provide the new weight. However that is not clear. So really very poor product positioning from a marketing standpoint. Oh yeah and it actually needs to calculate and display the accurate weight after all the calibration BS. 30 back and forth is ridiculous.
Thanks for punishing yourself and dear wife, so I don't have to...punish myself...
LOL! Stef here, and... you're welcome! ;)
That's your wife's job, anyway.
For $12 at the CAT scale, buying this seems silly.
I see a lot of videos of guys just using cheap analog bathroom scales.
You spent more than $12. on gas.
I already have something using the ODB port.... but doubting this anyways.
For the number of times you will likely ever weigh your RV... just go to a CAT scale.
That made me car sick to just watching. lol
Right?! There should be a warning label on the BetterWeigh... “Before attempting calibration, take some Dramamine.”
@@Thefitrv lol
12 bucks was a bargain.
Comedy Gold 😄😁😆😅🤣😂
Dear Sir James, you just saved me .1K bucks, so thank you for that.
So just for conversations sake, let me entertain you with this thought, or idea if you will.
My trailer is sitting in the driveway, "it's a TT by the way" and is not yet loaded for our next camping adventure. :( That being said, I can't help but wonder why my trailer jack isn't already sitting on a scale, possibly one that is built right into the tongue jack! With this idea we could as responsible load bearing haulers know what our tongue weight is, and adjust our WDH accordingly each time we hook up.
Thanks again man, hope you get rich off of this idea...
This useless gizmo would have gone back after 2 tries. You might want to review your video from 2 years ago on how to get it done EASY at the truck scales.
We still weigh regularly using that app. In fact, we did it for this video!
Could have went to a scale 5 times by the time you finished.
4th!
Hello my friend, the things you do for “you people” is not accurate. If you want to do something for “you people” Flip that thing out the window. Stay thirsty my friend
Is this a definition of insanity?
what a waste of time! and money
Really hope you have your wife the wife points she earned. We are no longer interested in this product.
Did you mean "gave" ?
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Too long. But you did save me the money that I was going to spend on this app toy. I wish you had reached your conclusion sooner.
Epic Fail