Go and take a listen to the latest Podcast. It addresses the stats and items issues. They have mistakenly missed items and stuffed up some of the changes. You will see some significant balance changes incoming over the coming days
Yep, my initial thoughts on this were a little like a sore finger after smacking it with a hammer. I went back and listened to a few things, took a lil break and cooled down. We need some complete systems in place and loot etc... Just felt like they keep going to 0 or 11 on the dial and no slight adjustments. I have faith they will figure it out!
@arthaxunleashed I always thought a smart system would be to have the same rate of xp whether you are grouped or not. Obviously you can kill much faster with a group so it will still be much faster. The percentages and bonuses etc are just silly
EVERY video Ive watched. Every single one.. Ive said the exact same thing, and its why I wont be bothering with the game. At 1:58:32 the FULL GROUP engages 1 mob thats group level comparable. At 1:59:32 it dies. A Full MINUTE of an ENTIRE GROUP to kill ONE.. just ONE trash mob that didnt give anyting anything relevant, and damn sure didnt give much xp. I cant think of a single MMORPG on the market where it takes SIX people a full minute of maximum DPS to kill a single trash mob. If you can.. please.. tell me in a reply. Cause even Ashes of Creation it doesnt take anywhere NEAR that long. It just looks like a tedious slog. And this was one of the shorter examples. I saw one video they fought some ghost dudes in a cave or something, and it took them almost 5 minutes to kill 2 normal mobs. How TF do you not get bored to tears and leave?
The combat is engaging, you manage debuffs, create combos with other class synergy etc... The Exp / rewards are going through a revamp. The game and its players want "slower" more involved fights than rolling your individual rotation with no cause to change. You may want to debuff armor on one mob type, the next you want to debuff resistances etc. To each their own. I quite enjoy this and its only going to get better. IMO its worth the play through. The video doesnt quantify the gameplay very well. My wife can attest.
It's boring to watch, fun to play. Personally, I always like the idea of MMO'S, but struggle to get past mid to late game out of sheer bordem, with virtually every MMO i've ever played. The best MMO that I've had fun with, is wow classic, but even that just got so stale so quick. That being said, I have been LOVING Pantheon. I've always liked the idea of old school mmo's like ever quest, but it was simply too dated to get into. Having what's literally an old school MMO but modern in design, has been actually refreshing and the entire experience is engaging. The beauty is in the simplicity, everything is simple yet it that ends up being a pro rather than a con. A lot of modern mmo's come off as the same thing to me, over stylized and trivial, pointless even. I get no gratification from doing anything, I just feel like i'm wasting my time. It's difficult to explain, but Pantheon feels very organic and like I earn everything, and since it's a true social mmo, you are a unique member of the world and not just a random toon that can have an mmo experience even if you never talk to another player. In a world of modern, copy paste mmo's, Pantheon feels like a huge step backwards, which in turn, ends up being a fresh experience. In my experience so far, leveling even solo is totally viable, even killing enemies within seconds. However what you're describing is elite mobs, so of course it's more of a grind. If that's a deal breaker for you, fair enough. This MMO isn't about hastily running content, it's more of an organic, walking paced experience, if that makes sense.
@@Mrtotot I play Ashes of Creation. Its 100x better in every single possible way over Pantheon Rise of the Copy/Pasted EQ clone. I get your long wall of text, but its not changing this garbage tier product into anything remotely relevant. Once the Beta goes live for AOC.. this game is going to be a ghost town. Same style of combat, fast paced, synergy of group abilities, debuffs and skill, WAY more depth to the classes, actual intrigue, growth of towns and cities, tradeskillers getting to enjoy what they do, TONS of skills to pick and choose, classes feel AMAZING.. Nevermind there's an actual ingame map, a proper functional User Interface, and graphics options for the Unreal 5 Engine that completely buries this unpolished turd. This game will never see any form of actual commercial success. having put time into both now.. I can 110% confirm.. AOC is the better game in *every* catagory. Its not even close.
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stopping in to offer tribute to the engagement gods. If you are a Pantheon nerd and enjoy this content - give the man some props like deserved.
I appreciate you.
Im going all in on Enchanter... nothing else .
Hell yea! Checkout Joppas stream right now! www.twitch.tv/JoppaVash he is running down enchanter up dates right now!
Would love a condensed version of this where you speak directly about patches and changes to the game, with each update! that'd be rad.
@@marshallcierovola376 that is in the plan!
Go and take a listen to the latest Podcast. It addresses the stats and items issues. They have mistakenly missed items and stuffed up some of the changes. You will see some significant balance changes incoming over the coming days
Yep, my initial thoughts on this were a little like a sore finger after smacking it with a hammer. I went back and listened to a few things, took a lil break and cooled down. We need some complete systems in place and loot etc... Just felt like they keep going to 0 or 11 on the dial and no slight adjustments. I have faith they will figure it out!
Hoorahhh! Another great video
Glad you enjoyed it!
Never leave home without your friendly Enchanter =P
100% Enchanter CC is great. CC is very needed and powerful in this game!
Any ideal on the level gap you can group with? My buddy was a lvl 5 and I was a lvl 2 and we tried to group and I wasnt getting XP
It moves up to 5 eventually but at 5 they need to be 3. Itll be quick to get to 3.
Looks like soloing is pretty viable
Yea, its slow but doable for most classes. They intend on giving meaningful progression for solo'ers but group should always be better.
@arthaxunleashed I always thought a smart system would be to have the same rate of xp whether you are grouped or not. Obviously you can kill much faster with a group so it will still be much faster. The percentages and bonuses etc are just silly
EVERY video Ive watched. Every single one.. Ive said the exact same thing, and its why I wont be bothering with the game. At 1:58:32 the FULL GROUP engages 1 mob thats group level comparable. At 1:59:32 it dies. A Full MINUTE of an ENTIRE GROUP to kill ONE.. just ONE trash mob that didnt give anyting anything relevant, and damn sure didnt give much xp.
I cant think of a single MMORPG on the market where it takes SIX people a full minute of maximum DPS to kill a single trash mob. If you can.. please.. tell me in a reply. Cause even Ashes of Creation it doesnt take anywhere NEAR that long.
It just looks like a tedious slog.
And this was one of the shorter examples. I saw one video they fought some ghost dudes in a cave or something, and it took them almost 5 minutes to kill 2 normal mobs. How TF do you not get bored to tears and leave?
The combat is engaging, you manage debuffs, create combos with other class synergy etc... The Exp / rewards are going through a revamp. The game and its players want "slower" more involved fights than rolling your individual rotation with no cause to change. You may want to debuff armor on one mob type, the next you want to debuff resistances etc. To each their own. I quite enjoy this and its only going to get better. IMO its worth the play through. The video doesnt quantify the gameplay very well. My wife can attest.
It's boring to watch, fun to play. Personally, I always like the idea of MMO'S, but struggle to get past mid to late game out of sheer bordem, with virtually every MMO i've ever played. The best MMO that I've had fun with, is wow classic, but even that just got so stale so quick.
That being said, I have been LOVING Pantheon. I've always liked the idea of old school mmo's like ever quest, but it was simply too dated to get into. Having what's literally an old school MMO but modern in design, has been actually refreshing and the entire experience is engaging. The beauty is in the simplicity, everything is simple yet it that ends up being a pro rather than a con. A lot of modern mmo's come off as the same thing to me, over stylized and trivial, pointless even. I get no gratification from doing anything, I just feel like i'm wasting my time. It's difficult to explain, but Pantheon feels very organic and like I earn everything, and since it's a true social mmo, you are a unique member of the world and not just a random toon that can have an mmo experience even if you never talk to another player.
In a world of modern, copy paste mmo's, Pantheon feels like a huge step backwards, which in turn, ends up being a fresh experience.
In my experience so far, leveling even solo is totally viable, even killing enemies within seconds. However what you're describing is elite mobs, so of course it's more of a grind. If that's a deal breaker for you, fair enough. This MMO isn't about hastily running content, it's more of an organic, walking paced experience, if that makes sense.
@@Mrtotot I play Ashes of Creation. Its 100x better in every single possible way over Pantheon Rise of the Copy/Pasted EQ clone.
I get your long wall of text, but its not changing this garbage tier product into anything remotely relevant. Once the Beta goes live for AOC.. this game is going to be a ghost town. Same style of combat, fast paced, synergy of group abilities, debuffs and skill, WAY more depth to the classes, actual intrigue, growth of towns and cities, tradeskillers getting to enjoy what they do, TONS of skills to pick and choose, classes feel AMAZING..
Nevermind there's an actual ingame map, a proper functional User Interface, and graphics options for the Unreal 5 Engine that completely buries this unpolished turd.
This game will never see any form of actual commercial success.
having put time into both now.. I can 110% confirm.. AOC is the better game in *every* catagory. Its not even close.