it really irritated me, the way people reacted to giannis winning that year. You dont just win titles in the nba, you have to be toughened by losses. Giannis came back tougher and stronger and so did khris, now look, he's a champ. The way he did it too, being the best offensive and defensive player. Total validation of being the MVP and Depoy
Well I KNOW if I meet a lady for Love, I am NOT going to wait till she: Stop *ucking another male, using drugs, etc....how long SHOULD I wait for her to stop doin those things till I marry her. Or SHOULD ACCEPT her with Negative\Bad that would Ruin Our Love\Lationship with one another❓❗
Charles Barkley actually understands the game. He called it that Giannis would take over from Bron years ago. LeBron is still the face of the league but Giannis is the player to beat
Scruff D0g but at the same time let’s not act like because you go somewhere else to win a championship it invalidates it. It is NEVER “easy” to win a championship so they also gotta stop that narrative. Look at the clips.
@@uyiosaigiehon7174 it's not a popularity contest bro , you don't get participation prizes. The whole point of a season is to Win the trophy otherwise what's the point?
Now hes 26 and on a 5 year contract and gonna run up against the Nets for the next half decade. Hes gonna blink and be 31 years old and ridiculed for being ringless and a playoff fraud...
I'm not the biggest Draymond fan out there, but I just gained some mad respect for the man with the way he answered Chuck's question. He basically said "it was too easy" WITHOUT saying it, AND he avoided saying they didn't need KD, which they didn't. So kudos...
Well Draymond was fined last time he was on the show. Lol I think it was like $35,000 if I remember correctly. It was earlier in the bubble before the playoffs. Both Chuck and Kenny were scheduled for dayoffs so Draymond stepped up to fill in.
You do know his career was going downhill when he played with the Celtics, Lebron, even with the heat he was on a steady decline from not taking care of his body so actually he was chasing money they were paying him good also why he went to the suns
@@noface2284 Not saying money wasn't a factor. But how could guys who left their original teams for better ones tell Giannis to stay in Milwaukee. Chuck left the Sixers for the Suns. Shaq left Orlando to play in LA.
I might not be a big fan of his personality still but he does fit well in the show. I personally also like Bones, Reggie, IT or Mchale. I clearly did not like Garnett on tv..
Wow, seeing Draymond misunderstand, Kenny briefly clarify, and Chuck bring him back to the conversation respectfully makes me think they are made for this job. Not just their accolades, but as people and professionals.
Chuck is so pragmatic about Bucks and Giannis and has been so right so far! He deserves our respect! Same for Shaq. I think these two have been the only Giannis supporters and Giannis awarded them with a championship!
Agree, if Bradley Beal didn’t sign with the wizards him and Giannis will be great to trade Bledsoe and another player as they get better assets like a point guard such as cp3
@@kevinbernard3297 they ain't really saying "don't leave Milwaukee" they just wanna say "don't team up with other superstars and take the easy way out".
They better, he fits in so well already. He adds to the personality like chuck and shaq. Someone like dwade doesn’t really have a personality which makes him boring.
This is why I love Ernie. Ernie took care of Draymond reminded him. Ernie is a good Mane. Mr. Green, you are well spoken. I love this version of you. Very eloquent and intelligent
@@brdolivadar Make sure he's not using his platform to recruit a player or push him in a decision for join GSW. Tampering is not allowed on their shows when an active player is a guest pundit.
Tho Giannis can still be better: he's not better than any other superstar in the playoffs. Or for sure not than LeBron, not than what KD was or Steph. So, he can still improve
@Anthony Mercado Giannis is not even close to the offensive player Steph is. Steph is the most impactful OFFENSIVE player in history. Giannis obviously benefits from his dimensions that Steph doesn't possess. But no one would take Giannis now over prime Steph.
Giannis needs to get better, yes. It's a crime to be as big as he is and not have any kind of post up game. With his height, a solid midrange jumper would give him an advantage over most defenders. He needs to be able to hit perimeter shots too, so that when teams clog up the paint and he can't drive to the basket, he can still score. He has to adjust to half court basketball if he wants to beat cohesive defensive units like the Heat and the Raptors in the playoffs. The Bucks need to be better too. Middleton has to be consistent in the playoffs and become that legitimate second star. Bledsoe is a good player, but he's not worth that contract and he can't shoot. They need a point guard who can efficiently run the offense, knock down shots and provide floor spacing- especially when the focal point of the offense isn't a great shooter. Brogdon would have been a better choice.
I call that the “Lebron Effect” we treat all our players like lebron now ....we force them to over compensate when they lose like we did lebron .....lebron is once in a lifetime player we can’t put lebron expectation on players cause they most likely won’t achieve it.
I don't agree. Lebron put high expectations on himself. He never denied he was "the chosen one " and he went on record multiple times, including his first 8 years with CLE , that he was chasing Jordan. He set that standard upon himself so now when he accomplishes something it is never seen as great because it's nothing beyond MJ. Lebron didn't even leave CLE cuz he wanted to, they just had terrible management and coaching and he wanted a better organization, which was MIA at the time. But holding great players to a standard of elevating themselves isn't wrong. Lebron is the best version of himself right now. Giannis has more to go and he should get better to increase his chances.
He’s to young right now to be worrying about joining a stacked team and ring chasing, get that big contract, see what ownership brings to you, then decide to leave after
I'm not going to say it's not an important award, but the fact that only 10 players in NBA history have won both the MVP and Finals MVP in the same season should at least put the value of regular season accomplishments in context.
Brandon Curtis he but that adds more to the sting because giannis team got bounced out the second round. I’m pretty sure mj won the championship the year he got both awards
@@antoniowombdiska3073 Nope, Jordan lost in the 2nd round the year he won MVP and DPOY. Olajuwon is the only player to win MVP, DPOY, and Finals MVP (and a championship) in the same year.
Shaq: I'll never leave more money on the table. 1996: leaves $150 million in Orlando (no state tax) for $120 million in L.A. (10.25% state tax for his bracket) 🤔🤔🤔
It’s a little different in the 90s than now. He was saying that with social media, player owning homes in multiple cities/countries etc, that being in a major media market is no longer necessary for celebrity/fame (and the financial opportunities fame opens up). Look at Lebron’s first stint in Cleveland as an example, he was still the most famous player in the world. Shaq was always destined to be a celebrity/entertainer so him going to Hollywood or New York would have always made sense for him in the age before social media.
@Mason Albert dude its a freaking RUclips comment, not a Harvard dissertation. One doesn't need to be a graduate of the London School of Economics to point out Shaq's hypocrisy. Your Saturdays must be so fun, I bet
@@1987benhur cp3 is about to retire tho only a few more seasons and his gone. I wish he gets another teammate like deandre back when he was in the clippers I want that lob action.
Making that salary line up close for a trade is going to be the problem. OKC doesn’t want to be saddled with Bledsoe, not with the analytics saying the 30yr old is on his way down, and down hard. projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-player-projections/eric-bledsoe/
Yeah they shouldn't have lost to Miami especially so soon. They just fall short come playoffs. Having the best record all season is great but they need to step it up come playoffs. The bucks need 1 more good player i feel
When Jordan won MVP and DPOY he and his team lost 4-1 to the pistons in the second round. The bulls scored 77 in one game, 79, 82, and 95 in their other loses. Multiple times Jordan did not perform well... to a pistons teams that lost in the finals..
Jordan averaged 27.4 for that series...not his best playoff series performance ever but averaging almost 30 points isn't exactly underperforming either. Anyone who watched that series would remember that the Jordan Rules were heavily enforced, that man was flat out abused in that series. I remember watching it...it was horrible. I don't know how he even averaged what he did. It was brutal. In 88, Jordan was still very slim, he had to put on some muscle after that. Chuck Daly knew if you limit Jordan from going off for 40 plus a night, the Bulls would crumble. Jordan was phenomenal in the regular season. The regular season isn't the playoffs. Great coaches will plan for teams too dependant on one transcendent player a la Milwaukee with Giannis. That's why they eventually had to move on from Doug Collins to Phil and the triangle offense because as great as Jordan was, in the playoffs, coaching really comes into play, you have to have ball movement and have to be able to make adjustments for when teams try to key in on stopping your superstar. Giannis needs a better coach who's better at playing playoff chess.
The MVP award is based on your REGULAR SEASON performance. This is the reason why James Harden and Russell Westbrook got an MVP trophy. There is no "Playoffs MVP" which i honestly wish that exists due to situations like this. Why Giannis deserves the MVP? 1. He has excellent stats in the reg. season. He ranked 2nd overall in scoring, 4th overall in rebounds, and led all MVP candidates in FG%. 2. Milwaukee Bucks has the best record in the reg season. 3. Giannis best team mate is not even a top 20 player. I know Bron fans are upset. Dont worry, the Lakers will win the chip this season and Bron will get the FMVP.
@Alex Ruiz Not sure about that. The NBA has been giving reg season MVP trophies late in the playoffs for decades. Though i agree with u that they should cast and tally the votes earlier and then announce it after the season is over.
that's why i respect chuck. he left the organizations because he didn't have help and he knew when he got older that was the time he joined houston for a last hurrah.
Are we gonna ignore drays pure honesty about his championships with KD. It takes a real man to come out and say “oh yeah the road was easier.” KD has yet to admit he took the easy way out and it’s embarrassing that he really thinks what he did was just normal. Much respect to Dray.
Zando Lee The Miami 3 wasn’t an easy way out there were all time great teams during their run. The KD warriors had no competition in the finals against those cavs teams and if KD was with them vs Toronto they win by sweep. Teaming up to create a great team is one thing, joining a 73 win team that you blew a 3-1 lead to is not even comparable stop it.
@@Eddiefkndiff I disagree with KD Toronto would have been swept and LBJ going to Miami was to form a super team, he was not going to win in Cleveland his first time around. In his second stint the Cavs brought in supporting players.
@@Eddiefkndiff Lol 2017 cavs team was just as stacked as anyone who could challenge for the titles. Get your facts right. Kd vs Bron Steph vs Kyrie Klay vs JR(he was still a sharpshooter back then) Dray vs Kev Both teams had solid role players too. Cavs got Korver, D-will, Shumpert.. It was a fair, well-matched up fight between 2 great teams.
I like the way Dreymond answered that last question. There wasnt any shade thrown at KD, he even tried to make such a statement how it was simply better because it was the first. And when probe for a deeper answer he never took that path, but instead explained how much easier it was with KD, so of course doing it the harder way without him was more fulfilling.
Clippers lost cuz it was rigged. 2k21 already lets you know. Kawhi and pg rigged it for kobe. They combined for 24 points 8 assist and 10 (usa) rebounds. Its rigged for kobe. He was sacrificed
Go Chuck! Tell it like it is! Monster of a player and a true gent as a commentator. Love ya! :) Love all of them, actually. Great athletes and great people too. And may Giannis keep improving!
Nobody is coming to Milwaukee. Would have been real interesting to see the supermax in Shaq's day. If Shaq is genuine with his comments then he would have stayed in Orlando and probably would of wound up in the NBA Finals often. Only to lose against the Spurs. How much differently would the legacies of both him and Kobe look had Shaq not of left Orlando.
No it’s not a regular season award there’s nothing stipulating that it’s a regular season award they just gave the award before the playoffs started and it just shaped into being a regular season award but there nothing in the rules saying MVP is a regular season award
When Jordan won MVP and DPOY he and his team lost 4-1 to the pistons in the second round. The bulls scored 77 in one game, 79, 82, and 95 in their other loses. Multiple times Jordan did not perform well... to a pistons teams that lost in the finals..
Yeah he's 25 and I think he can stay where he is and bring players to Milwaukee but how long will that window be open to win the title? Unless you're a generational player who everyone knows will be at the top for 10 plus years, nobody knows tomorrow. It is that uncertainty that creates pressure to get one while you're still on top. Or make sure you're on top for a long time so you have many chances to win.
No he isn't. Shaq always had top 10 superstars on his team to win his chips. No superstar is going to Milwaukee unless they're somehow traded there. Bucks Management isn't like these big markets that will do whatever it takes to put the right ppl around him. They have zero dawgs on there teams. Ppl say he only needs one piece but he needs 2 more in today's NBA. Middleton is overrated to me. His best bet is a bigger market like the Warriors/ Heat
@@anthonyfoster6708 Yes but regardless of the money situation with his contract he will make it back in endorsements and his brand. Lebron has been doing it half of his career. KD, Kawhi just did it, Kyrie, Paul George, Anthony Davis, and the list goes on. Plus you get a chance to go deep into the playoffs and contend for Championships. Giannas will not win with the Bucks. He needs his AD like Lebron, or his Kyrie like KD, or his Klay like Curry plus some role players that can step up. My advice would be go to the Warriors who have those pieces or the Heat.
LeBron left the first time because Cleveland was trash. Miami wasn't a contender before or after him. He went back to win one for his home team. He went to L.A. because that's where he wants to live. That's not the same as KD going to GS or some of these other guys and I think Chuck knows that.
the fact that only 1 year later after this speech of sir charles, giannis gets the championship, you gotta respect the man even more.
Truly inspiring
Chuck couldn't have been more correct! This aged so well
it really irritated me, the way people reacted to giannis winning that year. You dont just win titles in the nba, you have to be toughened by losses. Giannis came back tougher and stronger and so did khris, now look, he's a champ. The way he did it too, being the best offensive and defensive player. Total validation of being the MVP and Depoy
The NBA should announce the award winners before the playoffs. This MVP award felt awkward and had horrible timing.
I agree I can only imagine how players like giannis felt.
yeah especially, one that got award is at home watching the rest of playoff on TV.
2007 Dirk MVP vibes
I always thought the NBA Awards show on TNT was not a very good idea and still feel that way.
True
Chuck is right on the money.
Instant gratification is real in this media era
And its unhealthy for growth
Well I KNOW if I meet a lady for Love, I am NOT going to wait till she: Stop *ucking another male, using drugs, etc....how long SHOULD I wait for her to stop doin those things till I marry her. Or SHOULD ACCEPT her with Negative\Bad that would Ruin Our Love\Lationship with one another❓❗
@@OthoWilliamsJr beavers
@@NewAgeSlaves Facts it's that "microwave effect" they call it
Now he's even more right.
Charles Barkley actually understands the game. He called it that Giannis would take over from Bron years ago. LeBron is still the face of the league but Giannis is the player to beat
Lebron hasn’t been face of the league for a couple years now what are you talking about
@@chikushodiz91 nah he still is. you ask anyone who doesn’t follow basketball to name a basketball player right now, 9 times out of 10 they say lebron
@@randmdon exactly
Curry's the face of the league...what you smoking?
@@randmdon 😂😂😂😂yea ask lebron fans a basketball question 9 times out of 10 they don’t know shut about basketball
Bron was 27, MJ was 28 when they won their first title. Chuck is basically calling out all of ESPN.
Was 27 when he first jumped ship* did you not listen to Chuck man.
SD81 A After the loss in 2011, the media was tearing up the Heat and said they had to break up.
Scruff D0g but at the same time let’s not act like because you go somewhere else to win a championship it invalidates it. It is NEVER “easy” to win a championship so they also gotta stop that narrative. Look at the clips.
@@10mitchel23 Still missed Chuck point staying with the team. MJ, Dirk, Tim D and Kobe would have been better examples.
@@uyiosaigiehon7174 it's not a popularity contest bro , you don't get participation prizes. The whole point of a season is to Win the trophy otherwise what's the point?
Chuck making sure people put some respect on Dirk’s name! 💯
Dirk is forever a legend
Dirk one of the best to ever do it.
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Dirk vs LeBron Finals Record
Dirk 1-0, Lechoke 0-1
NEVER Forget
Lakers Deserve Better
2011 championship run was SO gratifying as a Mavs fan. I've been good since then to be honest lol
Draymond is trying his hardest not to tamper with Giannis
Draymond a freak
GSW sign him up.
True draymond ain't trying to tamper
Thanks Nostradamus. It’s not like he didn’t say so in the video 🙂
@@harrymic75 Nah, don't.. Would love to see the old splash bros back without another superstar surrounds them. Just solid role players would do.
Charles Barkley spitting nothing but FACTS.
Always
Now hes 26 and on a 5 year contract and gonna run up against the Nets for the next half decade. Hes gonna blink and be 31 years old and ridiculed for being ringless and a playoff fraud...
@@Howdidhenotseeme How about we calm down a little there bud we don't know what will happen
@@Howdidhenotseeme lol you’re a clown
@@exodia3625 He caught injury breaks and got lucky. I hate the nets so Im glad he beat those bums
I'm not the biggest Draymond fan out there, but I just gained some mad respect for the man with the way he answered Chuck's question. He basically said "it was too easy" WITHOUT saying it, AND he avoided saying they didn't need KD, which they didn't. So kudos...
5:24 "Draymond you got the last word and don't tamper"
Ernie know what Draymond be thinking😂
This one had me rollin 🤣🤣🤣
Ernie a good dude
"we only paying you 5,000$ for the appearance, no need to get fined 50,000$ for tampering and basically work for free"
Trying to save him from a fine 😂😂
Well Draymond was fined last time he was on the show. Lol I think it was like $35,000 if I remember correctly. It was earlier in the bubble before the playoffs. Both Chuck and Kenny were scheduled for dayoffs so Draymond stepped up to fill in.
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Draymond want chuck to shut up so Giannis can join the warriors
Who's Chick???
UN KNOWN 🤣🤣
Chuck just don't want Giannis to go to the warriors ,then he won't win a champion
Super king so.... Giannis shouldn’t that would be as bad as KD going there lot of scrutiny less money
Theyd. Prolly get rid of draymond to afford giannis
Love chuck for always putting respect on dirk
Yeah 💯 almost had 2..
Chuck showing love to the white man how surprising
@@LanceG007 Chuck shows love to everybody. One of the most empathetic and real people you’ll ever see on TV.
People forget he played 21 seasons ! Was still a force until his retirement
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Who’s here after giannis finally won with the bucks
“Shaq - I ain’t turnin down 50 60 Million for nobody”
Me & Shaq got a few things in common!
Said by the man who teamed up with:
Anfernee Hardaway
Kobe Bryant
Dwayne Wade
Steve Nash
LeBron James
Botons' big 3
You do know his career was going downhill when he played with the Celtics, Lebron, even with the heat he was on a steady decline from not taking care of his body so actually he was chasing money they were paying him good also why he went to the suns
@@noface2284 Not saying money wasn't a factor. But how could guys who left their original teams for better ones tell Giannis to stay in Milwaukee.
Chuck left the Sixers for the Suns. Shaq left Orlando to play in LA.
@@realdeal3202 The max contract and structure wasnt in place when Shaq was playing.
As someone who thought they didn’t like Draymond, he is a natural fit and quite entertaining to listen to.
I might not be a big fan of his personality still but he does fit well in the show. I personally also like Bones, Reggie, IT or Mchale. I clearly did not like Garnett on tv..
Facts
He grows on you. I used to hate him i still think hes overrated but very smart guy
Facts
He’s actually really good
True.
That's the longest Table i've seen in a Television show Lol
Social distancing bruv
they are deff socially distant
Covid man
Big table = big lines.
Jom Laroco dat dere rona table
Charles speaking facts man
When does he not -_-
They "clown" him because he didn't win a ring
Smh
@@purneswarprasad4710 every time he picks a team to win a series.
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The REALEST talk show for Sports tv
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This is basically the ONLY sports show to me
I wish they did the finals
Mr. KNEE GRRR ya some nerdy journalist trying to read the players minds and make a narrative
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Looking at this now makes me think chuck was right.smh Bucks in 6
This is the future....he was right
@@philippesom5066 hello Future
@@philippesom5066 how's Pipoen's wife?
@@realitybites629 cancer got to her mate rip
Draymond with some solid takes here, good responses.
he's actually pretty good on TV
he knows his basketball for sure
Better than Paul pierce and kendrick perkins,lol
@@ejectoseatocuzhaha low bar, but yeah don't mind hearing more of Draymond
@Kavach Saxena I found Draymond’s burner account
Everyone: "Giannis is better staying, and develop a team.
Draymond: make a Clown Face, "guys please, I'm trying to recruit here.
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Mason Albert you mean if he stays in Bucks, cause he can join LeBron or KD
Plus he may get better and better
Mason Albert giannis cp3 and draymond
5:24 he really had to remind him not to tamper😭
🤣
So Giannis can join the warriors
Because doc got fined after what he said about kawhi and I also think draymond got fined about what he said about booker needing to leave the suns
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its just a kind reminder cos draymond tampered last time he was on the show
Wow, seeing Draymond misunderstand, Kenny briefly clarify, and Chuck bring him back to the conversation respectfully makes me think they are made for this job. Not just their accolades, but as people and professionals.
Chuck is so pragmatic about Bucks and Giannis and has been so right so far! He deserves our respect! Same for Shaq. I think these two have been the only Giannis supporters and Giannis awarded them with a championship!
🤫 Chuck, I mean Draymond is right there 😂
he was drafted there u can’t blame him for not leaving a good team
Ki!!a nah he’s saying draymond got KD to “cheat” and go to the warriors
Draymond should have asked chuck about going to houston
@@allthesmallthings1041 Exactly 😂
@@allthesmallthings1041 "cheat"??? No one cheated 😂😂
Shaq has a point, Giannis doesn't need to go anywhere. He can attract big names to him.
Fr. Ain't nobody joining him at milwaukee
It's truly interesting how all these vet speaking about not leaving a team but throughout their own career they left as soon as possible
Agree, if Bradley Beal didn’t sign with the wizards him and Giannis will be great to trade Bledsoe and another player as they get better assets like a point guard such as cp3
I could see other people in his generations going to him. Anyone above him ain’t going to the Bucks
@@kevinbernard3297 they ain't really saying "don't leave Milwaukee" they just wanna say "don't team up with other superstars and take the easy way out".
Draymond green doing a good job he knows basketball 🔥🔥
And 1 year later, Giannis & the Bucks break through and win the championship. Fantastic!
Chuck was spot on man, Giannis started posting up more and the bucks started playing more team ball and now they have a ring
Draymond such a great addition, very articulate
Yeah, TNT is signing Draymond after he retires. He's just so eloquent.
They better, he fits in so well already. He adds to the personality like chuck and shaq. Someone like dwade doesn’t really have a personality which makes him boring.
True!💯
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AB 7092 Dwade out here opening his shirt and wearing baby oil 😂
@@robderp Fresh off the plane from Miami 😂🤦🏻♂️
I appreciate Draymond actually answering Chuck’s question and not dodging it
Huge respect for Charles Barkley here for giving congratulations to players who didn't do what he did.
Chuck was right, I respect him losing to MJ and never getting a ring than KD ring chasing. It matters.
Nah if he never wins a ring , his career a disappointment
It matters for some people now, but in the future you will only remember that he have won 2 rings and Charles Barkley 0...
Don't forget the number one ring Chaser LBJ
Ricky Moss soon to be goat , In about a month
@@mcm0923 too late for that if he was 6-3 instead of 3-6 then maybe
This is why I love Ernie. Ernie took care of Draymond reminded him. Ernie is a good Mane. Mr. Green, you are well spoken. I love this version of you. Very eloquent and intelligent
What do you mean?
Ernie looking out for his people
@@brdolivadar Make sure he's not using his platform to recruit a player or push him in a decision for join GSW. Tampering is not allowed on their shows when an active player is a guest pundit.
Thank you Charles Barkley for giving due respect to my idol Dirk Nowitzki.
irk nowiziki
Don’t have idols bro. Just say he’s your favorite all time basketball player
@@solo6069 what's the difference? Thanks for the advice but idol and all time NBA player is synonymous to me. Don't think much into it bro.
Tho Giannis can still be better: he's not better than any other superstar in the playoffs. Or for sure not than LeBron, not than what KD was or Steph. So, he can still improve
@Anthony Mercado Giannis is not even close to the offensive player Steph is. Steph is the most impactful OFFENSIVE player in history. Giannis obviously benefits from his dimensions that Steph doesn't possess. But no one would take Giannis now over prime Steph.
Giannis needs to work out with Hakeem
@@faisalamalo3695 True stuff. Or Kareem also. Think about Giannis with a shyhook. And he might be able to do it, as athletic and long as he is
He's the better than everyone on the heat
Giannis needs to get better, yes. It's a crime to be as big as he is and not have any kind of post up game. With his height, a solid midrange jumper would give him an advantage over most defenders. He needs to be able to hit perimeter shots too, so that when teams clog up the paint and he can't drive to the basket, he can still score. He has to adjust to half court basketball if he wants to beat cohesive defensive units like the Heat and the Raptors in the playoffs.
The Bucks need to be better too. Middleton has to be consistent in the playoffs and become that legitimate second star. Bledsoe is a good player, but he's not worth that contract and he can't shoot. They need a point guard who can efficiently run the offense, knock down shots and provide floor spacing- especially when the focal point of the offense isn't a great shooter. Brogdon would have been a better choice.
I call that the “Lebron Effect” we treat all our players like lebron now ....we force them to over compensate when they lose like we did lebron .....lebron is once in a lifetime player we can’t put lebron expectation on players cause they most likely won’t achieve it.
I don't agree. Lebron put high expectations on himself. He never denied he was "the chosen one " and he went on record multiple times, including his first 8 years with CLE , that he was chasing Jordan. He set that standard upon himself so now when he accomplishes something it is never seen as great because it's nothing beyond MJ. Lebron didn't even leave CLE cuz he wanted to, they just had terrible management and coaching and he wanted a better organization, which was MIA at the time. But holding great players to a standard of elevating themselves isn't wrong. Lebron is the best version of himself right now. Giannis has more to go and he should get better to increase his chances.
The expectations are too much when for the most part, all other prospects burn out
ESPN needs to stop all that overreaction. It costs people their jobs.
Definitely its a joke. They cause a lot of trouble
I Hate ESPN
Kwame was right
I'm happy that deep inside after all their battle Draymond admit that LeBron is the best player
He signed by his company
@@coachwane has nothing to do with that lol. He been said lebron was one of the best players in the world even when lebron was in cleveland
KLUTCH GANG
They are friends off court dude.
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One of my favorite segments. Everyone was on point for this one. What you gonna do Giannis?
He’s to young right now to be worrying about joining a stacked team and ring chasing, get that big contract, see what ownership brings to you, then decide to leave after
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Kenny wasn’t when he called Giannis the best player in the world
I'm not going to say it's not an important award, but the fact that only 10 players in NBA history have won both the MVP and Finals MVP in the same season should at least put the value of regular season accomplishments in context.
Isn't Giannis 1 of only 3 to win both MVP and DPOY with him and MJ?
Brandon Curtis he but that adds more to the sting because giannis team got bounced out the second round. I’m pretty sure mj won the championship the year he got both awards
@@antoniowombdiska3073 that was 88 MJ was still 3 years away from his first
*Starr Playa Entertainment* TM dang I didn’t know the exact timeline thanks for correcting me
@@antoniowombdiska3073 Nope, Jordan lost in the 2nd round the year he won MVP and DPOY. Olajuwon is the only player to win MVP, DPOY, and Finals MVP (and a championship) in the same year.
Congrats to Giannis for winning another MVP. Shows what hard work and talent can get you but keep working hard and get better
Shaq: I'll never leave more money on the table.
1996: leaves $150 million in Orlando (no state tax) for $120 million in L.A. (10.25% state tax for his bracket)
🤔🤔🤔
It’s a little different in the 90s than now. He was saying that with social media, player owning homes in multiple cities/countries etc, that being in a major media market is no longer necessary for celebrity/fame (and the financial opportunities fame opens up). Look at Lebron’s first stint in Cleveland as an example, he was still the most famous player in the world.
Shaq was always destined to be a celebrity/entertainer so him going to Hollywood or New York would have always made sense for him in the age before social media.
@@gajayjay what are you going on about? Stop putting words in his mouth. Shaq said what he said. And he left money on the table in his career.
@Mason Albert dude its a freaking RUclips comment, not a Harvard dissertation. One doesn't need to be a graduate of the London School of Economics to point out Shaq's hypocrisy. Your Saturdays must be so fun, I bet
He got paid on the down low with extra incentives in LA anyway
Exactly then left LA
I'd like to see CP3 join Milwaukee.
👀 👀 if Giannis elevates his game, that would be such a great addition
Imagine all the lobs CP3 would be throwing to Giannis!
I agree, Bledsoe is too inconsistent during the playoffs and CP would defo take the spotlight away from Giannis.
@@1987benhur cp3 is about to retire tho only a few more seasons and his gone. I wish he gets another teammate like deandre back when he was in the clippers I want that lob action.
Making that salary line up close for a trade is going to be the problem. OKC doesn’t want to be saddled with Bledsoe, not with the analytics saying the 30yr old is on his way down, and down hard. projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-player-projections/eric-bledsoe/
Well deserved MVP but kinda embarrassing that he got knocked out the playoffs that early
Lebron got knocked out in the 2nd round in 2010 as an MVP.
MJ won both DPOY and MVP and got bounced in 88 2nd round
At least he didn’t win MVP and lose to a #8 seed in the first round like Dirk did in 2007.
Russel Westbrook won MVP and lost in the first round in 2017.
Taylor Nickels poor Dirk
Yeah they shouldn't have lost to Miami especially so soon. They just fall short come playoffs. Having the best record all season is great but they need to step it up come playoffs. The bucks need 1 more good player i feel
Love Chuck. He always keeps it 💯.
When Jordan won MVP and DPOY he and his team lost 4-1 to the pistons in the second round.
The bulls scored 77 in one game, 79, 82, and 95 in their other loses. Multiple times Jordan did not perform well... to a pistons teams that lost in the finals..
What? I thought mj is this god like that never underperformed and that he is the greatest person in the entire universe averaging 100 50 30 20 and 10
@@tehemister042 you thought wrong
@@atipsy69 nah i knew the truth just mj stans said and thought that
@Shahrukh Mushtaq in golf maybe
Jordan averaged 27.4 for that series...not his best playoff series performance ever but averaging almost 30 points isn't exactly underperforming either. Anyone who watched that series would remember that the Jordan Rules were heavily enforced, that man was flat out abused in that series. I remember watching it...it was horrible. I don't know how he even averaged what he did. It was brutal. In 88, Jordan was still very slim, he had to put on some muscle after that. Chuck Daly knew if you limit Jordan from going off for 40 plus a night, the Bulls would crumble. Jordan was phenomenal in the regular season. The regular season isn't the playoffs. Great coaches will plan for teams too dependant on one transcendent player a la Milwaukee with Giannis. That's why they eventually had to move on from Doug Collins to Phil and the triangle offense because as great as Jordan was, in the playoffs, coaching really comes into play, you have to have ball movement and have to be able to make adjustments for when teams try to key in on stopping your superstar. Giannis needs a better coach who's better at playing playoff chess.
That's what I'm talking about. I actually want Giannis to win and become the greatest player in Milwaukee history. He has that potential.
The MVP award is based on your REGULAR SEASON performance. This is the reason why James Harden and Russell Westbrook got an MVP trophy. There is no "Playoffs MVP" which i honestly wish that exists due to situations like this. Why Giannis deserves the MVP?
1. He has excellent stats in the reg. season. He ranked 2nd overall in scoring, 4th overall in rebounds, and led all MVP candidates in FG%.
2. Milwaukee Bucks has the best record in the reg season.
3. Giannis best team mate is not even a top 20 player.
I know Bron fans are upset. Dont worry, the Lakers will win the chip this season and Bron will get the FMVP.
Well spoken, I don’t get how people are not understanding regular season mvp.
@Alex Ruiz this make people feel wierd.
@Alex Ruiz Not sure about that. The NBA has been giving reg season MVP trophies late in the playoffs for decades. Though i agree with u that they should cast and tally the votes earlier and then announce it after the season is over.
i still think it's the heat who win this time... jimmy buckets wins the fmvp...
I agree with everything until I read Middleton not a top 20 player during the regular season. He was cooking and even scored 50.
Looks like Draymond prepping himself for an early retirement!!!
Early? No just building for when he does
Shiid why not? He already a champ! Preserve your body and get that easy bread now. All you gotta do is apeak a bout a game you know very well
If the Warriors don't get Giannis, he'll be joining the desk full time.
Nahhh..., that's a great platform for his team to get a marque free agent players (tempering or not)
“What do you think about his future, Chuckster?”
-Ernie
😂
idk why it's funny but it is!
“I’ll try not to” 💀😂
That's ALREADY tampering
that's why i respect chuck. he left the organizations because he didn't have help and he knew when he got older that was the time he joined houston for a last hurrah.
I like the way Draymond talked about the grind the warriors had to go through to get to be champs 💪. Good talk
Are we gonna ignore drays pure honesty about his championships with KD. It takes a real man to come out and say “oh yeah the road was easier.” KD has yet to admit he took the easy way out and it’s embarrassing that he really thinks what he did was just normal. Much respect to Dray.
Did LeBron ever admitted he took the easy way as well?
Zando Lee The Miami 3 wasn’t an easy way out there were all time great teams during their run. The KD warriors had no competition in the finals against those cavs teams and if KD was with them vs Toronto they win by sweep. Teaming up to create a great team is one thing, joining a 73 win team that you blew a 3-1 lead to is not even comparable stop it.
@@Eddiefkndiff I disagree with KD Toronto would have been swept and LBJ going to Miami was to form a super team, he was not going to win in Cleveland his first time around. In his second stint the Cavs brought in supporting players.
@@Eddiefkndiff it was an easy way out for LeBron, stop it. Instead of grinding it in Cleveland he left to join his friends, Wade and Bosh, in Miami.
@@Eddiefkndiff Lol 2017 cavs team was just as stacked as anyone who could challenge for the titles. Get your facts right.
Kd vs Bron
Steph vs Kyrie
Klay vs JR(he was still a sharpshooter back then)
Dray vs Kev
Both teams had solid role players too. Cavs got Korver, D-will, Shumpert.. It was a fair, well-matched up fight between 2 great teams.
He might get his first ring this week
It's done!)
He did it Chuck! He won the Championship with the Bucks with 50 in the Final Game! One year after this.....
I like the way Dreymond answered that last question. There wasnt any shade thrown at KD, he even tried to make such a statement how it was simply better because it was the first. And when probe for a deeper answer he never took that path, but instead explained how much easier it was with KD, so of course doing it the harder way without him was more fulfilling.
Low key shade on KD and gsw
so?
Yes, and I agree with them.
It was shade on every one cheat their way to the finals. Like Lebron, KD, KG.
@@limpwhale he made it to the finals in 2010 Giannis Can’t even make it past the conference finals just sad
you did it champ
wow what a reaction...
"Do we have a problem with Giannis winning"
"Nope"
Klay Thompson? Yawp Splash Bros? Yawp Cavaliers? Nope We won? Yawp They Lost? Yawp We here? Yawp They not? Nope Giannis winning is a problem? Nope
Man Draymond is awesome he fit right in with the fellas. I hope he joins after his career. For sure there's more championships in store for him tho
Giannis' bucks won it this year the right way.. This championship mean more to NBA fans than the last 5 years at least
The only reason why Bucks won was because all the best teams not injured (Nets, Lakers, Clippers)
Bucks and Clippers lost cause they don't have a point guard.
Isam El-hussein but not every team has some guys to stop him, like the magic
because they weren't humble. That's all.
Clippers lost cuz it was rigged. 2k21 already lets you know. Kawhi and pg rigged it for kobe. They combined for 24 points 8 assist and 10 (usa) rebounds. Its rigged for kobe. He was sacrificed
@@jamesbell187 So it is the refs' fault they both scored 0 in the 4th quarter?
@@michaeldesanta7746 no its kawhi and pg fault
*You appreciate it more when you work so hard for it, instead of it being given* 💯💯💯
Go Chuck! Tell it like it is! Monster of a player and a true gent as a commentator. Love ya! :) Love all of them, actually. Great athletes and great people too. And may Giannis keep improving!
I'm here after watching Giannis become a champion :)
Chuck and Shaq: talking about how Giannis should star.
Draymond: 😐🤫
Draymond so deserves to be there on the panel every single time man!!
Chuck is the smartest NBA analyst.....sometimes. this is one of those times. I would love to see more players stick with the teams that drafted them.
This is facts
Chuck talking about teams that partnered with other guys, Draymond:.....
As always, an interesting offseason ahead of us, especially for Bucks, Clips, Sixers, and Rockets.
This aged well. S/O to Shaq and Chuck
Cheat=kevin durant 1:19
He almost let that comment fly but realised Draymond was on the panel 🤣
He was talking about LeBron too.
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Razor58 people with no rings hate big facts
Bingo. And Lebron in 2010 was a built team, not an established 73 win team.
This aged well
Draymond you not slick you wearing the same outfit you wore on tnt last month😬😂
If my suit cost as much as his you bet I would wear it multiple times!
You wrong lol 😂
I love Ernie Johnson Jr, Kenny Smith, Charles Barkely and Shaquille O'Neal or all these guys.
Good choice of words by Draymond! Gratifying.
But didnt shaq leave orlando for LA?
Yeah. But did you know why he left Orlando?
No Free agency. Shaq wanted to stay in Orlando. Shaq began to offer Shaq big money and Orlando began to make excuses not to pay Shaq
There was no winning in Orlando
@@melvynsngltn27 orlando took the mj route
They prioritized penny hardaway more than him tbh.
Well, Chucky, he's done that now, won a chip with the bucks. Good call, and good guts from Giannis to stick it with his small market team.
Congrates and much love to Giannis.
Nobody is coming to Milwaukee. Would have been real interesting to see the supermax in Shaq's day. If Shaq is genuine with his comments then he would have stayed in Orlando and probably would of wound up in the NBA Finals often. Only to lose against the Spurs. How much differently would the legacies of both him and Kobe look had Shaq not of left Orlando.
Draymond is securing his future after he finishes his time on the court! 💯
People's seem to forget that these are *regular season* awards nothing to do with playoffs. They should just hand these out earlier then.
Yes, it would have been LESS awkward...
And should take in consideration that stats aren't everything 😒
No it’s not a regular season award there’s nothing stipulating that it’s a regular season award they just gave the award before the playoffs started and it just shaped into being a regular season award but there nothing in the rules saying MVP is a regular season award
Brons the clear cut MVP but they just hate giving it to him
The way Draymond explains it is like inviting Giannis to his team.
You mean Stephs team...
Of course he is
5:25 looks like Ernie paid Draymonds $25K penalty the last time he guest on the show 😂😂
Bro it was 50k
@@benchwarmertowelboy1243 sheesh... a few words could cost a fortune.
Draymond: ima let y’all finish but the warriors are one of the franchises and orgs in the basketball pantheon
I didn't think Draymond would be as good as he is as an analyst. He definitely deserves a spot behind a mic once he retires.
MJ always showed up even when he loses
Doesn’t matter in this context though
When Jordan won MVP and DPOY he and his team lost 4-1 to the pistons in the second round.
The bulls scored 77 in one game, 79, 82, and 95 in their other loses. Multiple times Jordan did not perform well... to a pistons teams that lost in the finals..
Negative.
@@cjrouse9508 he still averaged 28 9 and 5 while shooting 50% from the field
CJ Rouse
check mj's stats in that series
then u will understand my point 👍
Chuck is exactly right, dude is 25...chill
The problem ain’t that he’s young but if he don’t learn how too shoot or even midrange pull up he’ll see more of that wall Toronto now Miam did it
Yeah but he still don’t know how to shoot or pull up
He relies on athleticism all the way and that won’t win a chip
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Yeah he's 25 and I think he can stay where he is and bring players to Milwaukee but how long will that window be open to win the title? Unless you're a generational player who everyone knows will be at the top for 10 plus years, nobody knows tomorrow. It is that uncertainty that creates pressure to get one while you're still on top. Or make sure you're on top for a long time so you have many chances to win.
2:46 boom 50k fine on draymond
Lol
It's so refreshing hearing these guys talk. Sas on the other hand smh...
KWAME BROWN!!!
Sasmith is pure entertainment though
@@moehersk7808 Him yelling all the time gets tiring to the viewer though
After giannis won the chip. Giannis a real one
Great Player’s stay on there team and make other team players Better!
Shaq spitting facts!!!!
No he isn't. Shaq always had top 10 superstars on his team to win his chips. No superstar is going to Milwaukee unless they're somehow traded there. Bucks Management isn't like these big markets that will do whatever it takes to put the right ppl around him. They have zero dawgs on there teams. Ppl say he only needs one piece but he needs 2 more in today's NBA. Middleton is overrated to me. His best bet is a bigger market like the Warriors/ Heat
@@Foxcoonjr Agreed
True
allaboutfacts I was talking more about the money part
@@anthonyfoster6708 Yes but regardless of the money situation with his contract he will make it back in endorsements and his brand. Lebron has been doing it half of his career. KD, Kawhi just did it, Kyrie, Paul George, Anthony Davis, and the list goes on. Plus you get a chance to go deep into the playoffs and contend for Championships. Giannas will not win with the Bucks. He needs his AD like Lebron, or his Kyrie like KD, or his Klay like Curry plus some role players that can step up. My advice would be go to the Warriors who have those pieces or the Heat.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but I think Chuck is also talking mostly about LeBron I am bouncing from team to team to win all these championships
LeBron left the first time because Cleveland was trash. Miami wasn't a contender before or after him. He went back to win one for his home team. He went to L.A. because that's where he wants to live.
That's not the same as KD going to GS or some of these other guys and I think Chuck knows that.
Chuck don't know what it's like to win unless its snacks.
This was a good conversation, everybody on point
Chuck always the best to talk about basketball