javed ghamdi is only right . he got excellent knowledge about sufi ism and islam. i appreaciate him... i advise others to study about islam deeply.... amer from london
Absolutely NAILED it. he absolutely nailed it. I dont really want to constitute a verdict on ghamdi. but this argument which he made is almost sealed. i dont really find any logical way out of it.
Ye ALLAH (SWT) ke khas rehmat hai ke humaray darmian aisey log mojod hain jo deen ke her pehloo pe baat ker saktey hain. May ALLAH (SWT) guide us in recognizing, understanding, and practicing the truth. One thing is for sure that Deen is what ALLAH (SWT) says and what HE says is in QURAN and Sahih Hadith. what we extract from QURAN and HADITH is our thinking which may be right or wrong. for commoners the QURAN is the easiest book to understand and for scholars, every verse of QURAN is like the Himalayas.
Sufis having so called "experiences" can easily be visions which jinns and shayateen show to people to misguide them. How can they prove that their visions are from divine and not from dark sources?
Imran Suhail yes u are right all the visions are shown by the jinns to divert them not to attain deep knowledge and practice of roohani ilm.most of the sufis got deviated by those visions
and how do sufis explain beyond logic experiences? how is it possible for a normal human being to show their existence even after death... ..travelling beyond bounds ...i dont know its just beyond my understanding
ghamidi makes so much sense...why is sufism only confined to certain people? okay fine there are some special who can reach that stage but why there is no mention of it in quran..kahin tou kuch hota ? ambiguous baat hi hoti ...if it was such a big of part of religion it should have a little mention....
Sufya e Ekram ko Janney k lye unka rasta apnana padta hay ,Aam log Rasool SAW ko follow krte hain Aur khas log Rasool SAW k paigham ko ...ilam sb k pas hay mgr Ilm e batin kuch aur hay ye Ata e Ilahi hay hr kisi ko nehi milta jb tak ap talib ya matloob na ho ...Ghamdi Sahib beshak boht ilm waley hain aur hum un se boht kuch sikhte hain uska dimagh roshan hay per dil nehi agr hota tou Sufya k khelaf bonla tou kya soch bhi nehi skta...Wallah o Aalam
Things Not Found in Quran.👇🏽 1. Kalma tayyaba 2. Attah yaat 3. Darood Shareef 4. Aameen 5. Allah hu Akber 6. Surah e Fatiha (found before Quran) 7. Azaan 8. Circumcision 9. six kalmas 10. Name of any Caliph. 11. Hajr e Aswad. 12. Any woman name except Mariyam. 13.Five Namaz. 14. Actions n words in Namaz. 15. Taorat as a book of Hazrat Moosa. 16.dajjal 17. Gar e Hira 18. Imam mehdi 19. Aab e zamzam 20. To remember Quran by heart. ( Hifz) 21. Sangsaar. 22. (1,24,000) paighambar. 23. Story of Mairaj Plse mention aaya nmbr if u find any 1 thing in theQuran
sorry to day brother your logic fails to impress. you are cliaming that all this sufi stuff comes from quran and sunnah but you too have not provided any evidence or references for it. im not saying that these things are haram or kufr like most people say, im just saying that it cannot be a part of religion unless its is proved from quran and hadith. just saying its not against these sources is not enough
maana ki daadhi sunnat hai lekin ghamidi sahab daadhi rakhne se rok tho nahin rahe...wo ye tho nahin kehtey ke daadhi NAHIN RAKHNA chahiye...wo ye kehtey hain ki daadhi ke baarey mein deen koi mudaakhilath nahin kartha...aur agar koi daadhi rakh raha hai tho acha hai, ishq e rasool ki ek nishani hai...agar wo nahin rakhtey tho unki marzi..unsey jo ilm nikal raha hai aur jo har hai, aap usko kaise thukra saktey hain...haq tho haq hai, chahe maulana ashraf ali sahab kahey ya ghamidi sahab kahey...
Sufism is that part of Islam that is linked with purification of Soul, it is linked with the greater jihad also known as Jihad e Akhbar i.e. Jihad bil Nafs
Asal tauheed hi yahi hai Allah kay siwa koi mojood nahi q kay baqi rehnay walay zaat hi uski hai. Agr ham bhi mojood hain aur woh bhi mojood hai tu yeh tu shirk hai. baqi yeh manzil ka differnce hai wo allah ko janna pehchna chahtay hain . QURAN AND WAHDAT UL WAJOOD Wahdat-ul-Wajood in the Light of Quran Before the evidence is presented, readers must note that evidence is of two guides: Explicit and Indirect. The words, Wahdat-ul-Wajood, will not be in the quotations but the doctrine which these words express will be in the quoted verses. Wahdat ul Wajood in Quran, Quran and Wahdat ul Wajood, Quranic verses about Wahdat ul wajood, Wahdat ul Wajood in the light of Quran Sura An-Nur (Ayat an-Nur) {24} Verse 35: "Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth." Sura Al-Baqara {2} Verse 115: "To Allah belong the east and the West: Whithersoever ye turn, there is the presence of Allah. For Allah is all-Pervading, all-Knowing." Sura Al-Hadid {57} Verse 3: "He is the First (awwal) and the Last (akhir), the Evident {zahir} and the Immanent {batin}: and He has full knowledge of all things." The creation of Allah exists and the creation is not part of Allah nor Allah is part of creation because Allah says "lysaka misli shai" {there is nothing like Him}. Allah's existence is absolute on who's existence all the creation exists and the real {haqiqi} existence is of Allah's.
Tasavvuf word bana hai tasavvur se agar islam me tasavvuf naa ho to(jo k har mazhab me hai or budh mazhab to hai hi kora tasavvuf) koi bhi kah sakta hai k Aap Allah ko jaantay hain jo daava e itaat kartay hain Aap jaantay hain k aapkay ander rooh hai Aap jaantay hain k mout k baad aap bacheingay Aap jaantay hain k paida honay se pehle aap thay(aalam e arwah) Aap jaantay hain k qaainaat Allah hi ne banaye hai or Allah hi ki milkiat hai Aap jaantay hain aapka jism Allah ki amaanat hai Aap jaantay hain k Allah ka aapkay ooper haq hai kisy musalmaan se baat karnay k liye to Alhumdulillah quran o hadees hi qaafi lekin is duniya me sirf muslim hi nhi hai or bhi log hain jin tak quran ka paigham ponhchana musalmaan ki zimmedary hai. isliye Tasavvuf ki field me boht kaam karna baaqi hai lekin badkismati se muslim ummah isy maslah par uljhi hai k tasavvuf koi cheez hai yaa nhi
Please somebody tell him.. Imam ghazali sahb himself oppossed sufis for a Loooong time and then later in life became Sufi and authorised wondeful knowledge! The 2nd and third kind of Tauheed is also a part of First kind of TYauheed.. One can never Jump from to third... proof of 2nd and third form of tauheed is first form.. when you are Full of the Tauheed given to you then you are further rasied.. This is beauty of Islam, it is gaining every time winning every moment..
xtremeownage2 OMGG Ignorance at extreme lvl by you! OMGG Insecure?. Angry? Talk with facts brother! U are calling HIM jahil? I knw u.. hve seen ur comments many places against him bt u nvr answered me!
As far their books are concenred, you need ot have a Teacher to be able to have the comprehension of those books.. just like you provide your children tution.. for Quran we needed Prophet and Sahaba and Sulaha as said in Quran. for Aahadees we needed Fuqaha and Sulaha and Ulama again.
@1ACFFCD hes talking againist great allam of india shah waliullah dhlevi RA and sufias never says its not true that we take wahi just like Prophet SAW but they say we get conected with Prophet pbuh to GOD and we get into love of ALLAH and his Prophet pbuh.. that when we pray its like we are seeing ALLAH if not then ALLAH is seeing us forsure... what mr ghamdi is saying about sufis is totaly wronge he thinks hes biggest allam of all time... subahanAllah..
Ye Baba G + Javed Ghamdi, aik Allama Iqbal ki Khawja Moin Ud Deen se Mulaqat ko to Justify kar nahen sakay aur bat karte hen Sufism par. Anchor ne bhi Allama Iqbal ki Khawja Moin ud Deen se mulaqat ka zikar kar k bahas shuru kar di hai. Us ko puchna chahye the Baba G + Javed Ghamdi se in ka elm kia kehta hai ais mulaqat k baray men?
First they dont need to prove. 2nd if you Want to believe them you need proof.. their pure habits and clean nature is their proof.. Thier firmly adhering the Sunnah and Quran is their proof.. Sheikh Ali bin Usban * Data sahb ) has explained in his book 'if someone doesnt like the name Tasawwuf, it is Ok, but if someone dosnt like the reality of it thats unacceptable.. ' It's entirely based on Quran and Sunnah.. Opposing such a subject is opposing the religion.
javed ghamdi is only right . he got excellent knowledge about sufi ism and islam. i appreaciate him... i advise others to study about islam deeply....
amer from london
Very impressive knowledge ghamdi has.really impressive
Ghamdi is so right... he is very knowledgeable. No one answered his question.....
ghamidi sb has taken these guys back to school but dont think they are willing to learn.
May Allah bless Ghamidi sahb. Ameen
Such an excellent explanation by Mohatram Jawed Ahmed Ghamedi
the in depth study of scriptures by Ghamidi sahab is honestly a miracle.
Ghamdi was the clear winner mashaAllah. Got the bull by the horns!
ghamidi is a outclass person
Prophet pbuh had not left anything incomplete in Islam therefore any new invention in islam is forbidden by Allah in Sura Ahraf ayat No 33
Ghamdi have a Real Knoledge of Quran he is right
ہم سب اللّٰہ تعالٰی کے بندے ہیں۔ اللّٰہ ہی کی بندگی کرنی چاہیے۔ اس بندگی کے مسائل علماء سے معلوم کرنے چاہیے اور بندگی کا کمال صوفیاء سے۔
Infact sofia ko promote kerny Walon ny khud kabi unki books ko read nahi kiya hoga
Sufis ko promote krne walay saray unparh oor jahil hote Hain
Absolutely NAILED it. he absolutely nailed it.
I dont really want to constitute a verdict on ghamdi. but this argument which he made is almost sealed. i dont really find any logical way out of it.
This is why ppl who accuse him NVR debate with him bz he brings out facts and leave thm speechless murmuring and crying!
Ghamidi sb absolutely a gem.
Great respect for Ahmad Javed Sb.
Ghamidi Sb, Allah ki khaas mehrbaani hain hum par.
Ye ALLAH (SWT) ke khas rehmat hai ke humaray darmian aisey log mojod hain jo deen ke her pehloo pe baat ker saktey hain. May ALLAH (SWT) guide us in recognizing, understanding, and practicing the truth. One thing is for sure that Deen is what ALLAH (SWT) says and what HE says is in QURAN and Sahih Hadith. what we extract from QURAN and HADITH is our thinking which may be right or wrong. for commoners the QURAN is the easiest book to understand and for scholars, every verse of QURAN is like the Himalayas.
Sufis having so called "experiences" can easily be visions which jinns and shayateen show to people to misguide them. How can they prove that their visions are from divine and not from dark sources?
Imran Suhail yes u are right all the visions are shown by the jinns to divert them not to attain deep knowledge and practice of roohani ilm.most of the sufis got deviated by those visions
میں نے سوفیی ازم کو بہت سنا لیکن جاوید غامدی کا موقف بہت اچھا ھے
Ghamdi Sahab nailed it ❤️
غامدی صاحب آپکی تعریف کے کیے الفاظ نھی ھے
Ghamidi Sb 👏
and how do sufis explain beyond logic experiences? how is it possible for a normal human being to show their existence even after death... ..travelling beyond bounds ...i dont know its just beyond my understanding
check into Astra projection. Even jinns can take forms
Salam
dear brother i am interested in knowing about these ayats. thanks
Not a single well articulated argument against that of ghamidi shb.💯👏
Ghamidi sahb...
ghamidi makes so much sense...why is sufism only confined to certain people? okay fine there are some special who can reach that stage but why there is no mention of it in quran..kahin tou kuch hota ? ambiguous baat hi hoti ...if it was such a big of part of religion it should have a little mention....
Great Ghamidi Sahab
Sufya e Ekram ko Janney k lye unka rasta apnana padta hay ,Aam log Rasool SAW ko follow krte hain Aur khas log Rasool SAW k paigham ko ...ilam sb k pas hay mgr Ilm e batin kuch aur hay ye Ata e Ilahi hay hr kisi ko nehi milta jb tak ap talib ya matloob na ho ...Ghamdi Sahib beshak boht ilm waley hain aur hum un se boht kuch sikhte hain uska dimagh roshan hay per dil nehi agr hota tou Sufya k khelaf bonla tou kya soch bhi nehi skta...Wallah o Aalam
ghamidi has sent them back to nursery
Shabbir I wasn't expecting that much from him...but he really explained it well what was the reason of downfall of Muslims.
Things Not Found in Quran.👇🏽
1. Kalma tayyaba
2. Attah yaat
3. Darood Shareef
4. Aameen
5. Allah hu Akber
6. Surah e Fatiha
(found before Quran)
7. Azaan
8. Circumcision
9. six kalmas
10. Name of any Caliph.
11. Hajr e Aswad.
12. Any woman name except Mariyam.
13.Five Namaz.
14. Actions n words in Namaz.
15. Taorat as a book of Hazrat Moosa.
16.dajjal
17. Gar e Hira
18. Imam mehdi
19. Aab e zamzam
20. To remember Quran by heart. ( Hifz)
21. Sangsaar.
22. (1,24,000) paighambar.
23. Story of Mairaj
Plse mention aaya nmbr if u find any 1 thing in theQuran
The grip and knowledge of gamdi and javed ahmad …oh my😅😅
May Allah bless Ghamidi sahb. Ameen
Ghamdi Sab ko Salam
Ghamdi sb you are FOR Ordinary Public. ( aamaa)
though i m not a fan of ghamdi...but here ghamdi is right about that...
Ghamidi is great
sorry to day brother your logic fails to impress. you are cliaming that all this sufi stuff comes from quran and sunnah but you too have not provided any evidence or references for it. im not saying that these things are haram or kufr like most people say, im just saying that it cannot be a part of religion unless its is proved from quran and hadith. just saying its not against these sources is not enough
Ghamidi sahab inko aise chaba ke kha gaye jaise hum biryani kha jate hai..
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
maana ki daadhi sunnat hai lekin ghamidi sahab daadhi rakhne se rok tho nahin rahe...wo ye tho nahin kehtey ke daadhi NAHIN RAKHNA chahiye...wo ye kehtey hain ki daadhi ke baarey mein deen koi mudaakhilath nahin kartha...aur agar koi daadhi rakh raha hai tho acha hai, ishq e rasool ki ek nishani hai...agar wo nahin rakhtey tho unki marzi..unsey jo ilm nikal raha hai aur jo har hai, aap usko kaise thukra saktey hain...haq tho haq hai, chahe maulana ashraf ali sahab kahey ya ghamidi sahab kahey...
Darhi is not sunnat at all ! what on earth you are talking about
can u pls list those ayats?
Ghamidi sahb was way too good
Sufism is that part of Islam that is linked with purification of Soul, it is linked with the greater jihad also known as Jihad e Akhbar i.e. Jihad bil Nafs
Asal tauheed hi yahi hai Allah kay siwa koi mojood nahi q kay baqi rehnay walay zaat hi uski hai.
Agr ham bhi mojood hain aur woh bhi mojood hai tu yeh tu shirk hai.
baqi yeh manzil ka differnce hai wo allah ko janna pehchna chahtay hain .
QURAN AND WAHDAT UL WAJOOD
Wahdat-ul-Wajood in the Light of Quran
Before the evidence is presented, readers must note that evidence is of two guides: Explicit and Indirect.
The words, Wahdat-ul-Wajood, will not be in the quotations but the doctrine which these words express will be in the quoted verses.
Wahdat ul Wajood in Quran, Quran and Wahdat ul Wajood, Quranic verses about Wahdat ul wajood, Wahdat ul Wajood in the light of Quran
Sura An-Nur (Ayat an-Nur) {24} Verse 35: "Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth."
Sura Al-Baqara {2} Verse 115: "To Allah belong the east and the West: Whithersoever ye turn, there is the presence of Allah. For Allah is all-Pervading, all-Knowing."
Sura Al-Hadid {57} Verse 3: "He is the First (awwal) and the Last (akhir), the Evident {zahir} and the Immanent {batin}: and He has full knowledge of all things."
The creation of Allah exists and the creation is not part of Allah nor Allah is part of creation because Allah says "lysaka misli shai" {there is nothing like Him}.
Allah's existence is absolute on who's existence all the creation exists and the real {haqiqi} existence is of Allah's.
Our emaam is on quran and sunnat, why should we follow other books. Sufisam has done great damage to the teaching of prophet Mohammed swa teaching.
Tasavvuf word bana hai tasavvur se
agar islam me tasavvuf naa ho to(jo k har mazhab me hai or budh mazhab to hai hi kora tasavvuf) koi bhi kah sakta hai k
Aap Allah ko jaantay hain jo daava e itaat kartay hain
Aap jaantay hain k aapkay ander rooh hai
Aap jaantay hain k mout k baad aap bacheingay
Aap jaantay hain k paida honay se pehle aap thay(aalam e arwah)
Aap jaantay hain k qaainaat Allah hi ne banaye hai or Allah hi ki milkiat hai
Aap jaantay hain aapka jism Allah ki amaanat hai
Aap jaantay hain k Allah ka aapkay ooper haq hai
kisy musalmaan se baat karnay k liye to Alhumdulillah quran o hadees hi qaafi lekin is duniya me sirf muslim hi nhi hai or bhi log hain jin tak quran ka paigham ponhchana musalmaan ki zimmedary hai.
isliye Tasavvuf ki field me boht kaam karna baaqi hai
lekin badkismati se muslim ummah isy maslah par uljhi hai k tasavvuf koi cheez hai yaa nhi
but i dont agree with him on many issues
ghamidi sahib destroyed whole suffism within mnts
Sufism is a parallel religion
Torah zaboor injil ki tehreef hogai
aur aap?
Geo Ghamidi, phattian bhan dittian.
Please somebody tell him.. Imam ghazali sahb himself oppossed sufis for a Loooong time and then later in life became Sufi and authorised wondeful knowledge! The 2nd and third kind of Tauheed is also a part of First kind of TYauheed.. One can never Jump from to third... proof of 2nd and third form of tauheed is first form.. when you are Full of the Tauheed given to you then you are further rasied.. This is beauty of Islam, it is gaining every time winning every moment..
Javed gamdi sahab is true
Sajid ur Rehman has no knowledge of Islam. So much wordplay & confusion.
Kis sofi ny jahad kiya???
Shame on you oh people of Bidha and Tasawuf. Return to pure Islam.
ساجد الرحمن صاحب کو پانی پلاؤ 😂😂😂😂
yeh feelings hain her ksi ko nhi milti ,, imam gazaali saying absoulitly right ,,,
HAQ YA RASOOL ALLAH
HAQ YA HABIB ALLAH
Ghamidi got very insecure and angry here. It shows his ignorance and jahalat.
xtremeownage2 OMGG
Ignorance at extreme lvl by you!
OMGG
Insecure?. Angry? Talk with facts brother!
U are calling HIM jahil? I knw u.. hve seen ur comments many places against him bt u nvr answered me!
As far their books are concenred, you need ot have a Teacher to be able to have the comprehension of those books.. just like you provide your children tution.. for Quran we needed Prophet and Sahaba and Sulaha as said in Quran. for Aahadees we needed Fuqaha and Sulaha and Ulama again.
@1ACFFCD hes talking againist great allam of india shah waliullah dhlevi RA and sufias never says its not true that we take wahi just like Prophet SAW but they say we get conected with Prophet pbuh to GOD and we get into love of ALLAH and his Prophet pbuh.. that when we pray its like we are seeing ALLAH if not then ALLAH is seeing us forsure... what mr ghamdi is saying about sufis is totaly wronge he thinks hes biggest allam of all time... subahanAllah..
rabbani qadri he is quoting the books of ur alims! Go read those books
Ye Baba G + Javed Ghamdi, aik Allama Iqbal ki Khawja Moin Ud Deen se Mulaqat ko to Justify kar nahen sakay aur bat karte hen Sufism par.
Anchor ne bhi Allama Iqbal ki Khawja Moin ud Deen se mulaqat ka zikar kar k bahas shuru kar di hai. Us ko puchna chahye the Baba G + Javed Ghamdi se in ka elm kia kehta hai ais mulaqat k baray men?
First they dont need to prove.
2nd if you Want to believe them you need proof.. their pure habits and clean nature is their proof.. Thier firmly adhering the Sunnah and Quran is their proof.. Sheikh Ali bin Usban * Data sahb ) has explained in his book 'if someone doesnt like the name Tasawwuf, it is Ok, but if someone dosnt like the reality of it thats unacceptable.. ' It's entirely based on Quran and Sunnah.. Opposing such a subject is opposing the religion.
sufism is totally practical experience and all these molvis n scholars all too far from this...
bekhabar jamat
G Jisko khabar ho jaati h Wo Dawa Nabuwat kar laity hain barry barry daawy karty hain Infact k ALLAH K SHAREEK BANANY KA DAWA KARTY HAIN NauzBILLAH