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Piano Marvel is actually really good if you already know how to play and just want to improve your sight reading. You gotta have a digital piano though.
@@PianoforPleasure That's too bad. They say you can use it with acoustic piano too but it doesn't really work. With a digital it's really good though and works just fine.
A good summary, although I would suggest a couple of additional important benefits of piano apps. One is the availability of backing tracks. This gives beginners a significant motivational boost since what you play (which is very simple as a beginner), sounds better and makes practice more enjoyable. The other is that the apps tend to provide an objective measure of your progress. This also benefits beginners because it is possible to see progress even when it often feels like there is none.
You are spot on with this, which I confirm by way of my most enjoyable use of the Simply Piano app every day over the last 2.5 years. It's really natural to do this too if you have learned lead guitar over the years, you just have to have a backing track and know straight away how much better everything sounds. I think pianists seem to be catching up only now because of these apps.
Great video and I think a fairly balanced overview. One comment on your con #1 regarding motivation - I actually think that this is one of the major pros of this type of app. For most beginners especially adults, that initial valley of pain where you just need to spend lots of time practicing and the results that you see may not really match up to your expectations. Gamifying that part of your learning and making it fun, can help to bridge that gap until you start to play more complicated pieces that are more rewarding in themselves. In the end I think these apps will pull a lot more people into the music world, and give more work to music teachers once people progress to the point that the learning apps are limiting their progress. Win win!
Also apps are really gold to catch that initial impuls when you want to start learning piano but don't have an Instrument: You buy some cheap Keyboard and start practicing immediately and if you are still motivated after some longer period you could find out if it was just a "quick" idea or to go the the next step and find a teacher and buy a proper Instrument.
The benefits from having a teacher than can give you feedback in real time are huge and it really never ends. I studied classical singing and conducting and to this day I find it beneficial to get someone listening in and watching besides myself. The best tip I could give someone wanting to learn an instrument, find yourself a good teacher! Use youtube for tips, second opinions, listening to others play and inspiration. Having said that, I DID teach myself piano but at a point I already had a lot of musical baggage which makes a difference. Still a teacher would and still would be very helpful.
It all boils down to what is your goal in learning to play the piano. If you want to become a pro or hope to be a concert pianist or have the opportunity to play at Carnegie Hall in New York someday, then go get a very good piano teacher to teach you all the techniques. But if you are like thousands of others like me who just want to spend their time wisely, who doesn't even know where Middle C is, piano apps could be a great and fun way to start your piano learning journey. It is affordable and you get to learn at your own pace. By the way, many who started learning give up after a couple of months or discover they don't have the patience to learn. But for those who are truly motivated, they could later on proceed to hiring a teacher once the apps have outgrown their usefulness.
I agree with most of what you say here. From my own experience, I took piano lessons from my music theory professor in college, although piano was never my major instrument (I played trumpet in high school and was in a punk band playing guitar and bass). That was all about 20 years ago. Lately, I've been getting back into it with a keyboard and an app. I definitely appreciate all the lessons I had before, and would definitely suggest any first time player do real, in person lessons to get a foundation first. But for picking back up after a couple of decades of not using piano skills, or if you're already beyond the bare-bones beginning stage, piano apps are great, as long as you self-motivate.
I’ve tried self taught piano after a decade gap in my studies. After self-teaching for about a year, I realized it was time for a teacher! I know everyone is different, but a teacher is SO worth it. I was super energized and motivated after my first lesson. 😍😍 The motivation, validation, and teacher relationship is so valuable!
I've been playing for 2 years and taught myself. Yesterday I considered to get a teacher and my those are expensive! 50 bucks a hour or 25 per half hour! Man, that is expensive for a student :(
Wow! Good for you! It sounds like you’ve made amazing progress. Compared to my area, that is a low rate! Music lesson rates can vary very widely and are mostly dependent on the local economy. In places where the cost of living is high, the average lesson rate increases. In areas where the cost of living is low, the average rate will also decrease. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area and average rates are around $50-60 per 30 min and $80-100 per hour. How we spend our money is VERY important and no one in the right mind would say music lessons are worth going broke over. (No way!!) So I really feel for what you say.. This is a difficult economy. :(:( Fortunately, we have amazing RUclips channels like this to help guide our self-taught journey. :) Btw! I actually only do one-off lessons lessons with that piano teacher. Mostly because A) I don’t have time in my schedule for weekly lessons, B) I don’t want weekly lessons, C) Weekly lessons don’t work for my budget. Also, some teachers may offer a sliding rate for those with low income. (I’ve seen this more as an offer for families with children.) But it just shows you, maybe there’s a way to customize your learning experience as well. :) Hang in there! And good luck!
@@rachell783 yes- I charge $40 for 30, and $65 hour. I can attest that's how much they are on the west coast. I'm an awesome teacher, too- not to toot my own piano, but I love playing and teaching. The students I take on learn well. I use apps like Piano Maestro and iRealPro. Anything it takes in a student-centered approach to make piano players for life! ❤️
Pretty much the same for me. I’ve tried teaching myself on my grandmothers keyboard with piano apps, I failed, and I stopped. I tried several times a year, but never stuck to it. Recently I’ve been dating someone who has been playing the piano and learning with a real teacher, and since she’s been teaching me I have been learning the piano so much better! Her feedback in combination with Jazers videos have been a great combination for me so far! I’ve been playing only for a week, but in that week I have learned more (both physically as well as in reading sheet music) than I ever did in those 15 years trying to teach myself. I can now finally play with two hands at the same time and I can now actually read sheet music. IT’s not perfect yet by a long shot, but having someone to explain these things to you as well as help you with your fingering and with reading notes and chords and such is just so much easier! I am definitely gonna buy my own keyboard soon so I can play/practice at home as well. Currently I can only play when I’m at her house
I found that Pianote has a great balance between video lessons and having a teacher. You have live lessons, Q&As and you can submit videos of your own playing, so teacher can give you advice reviewing your videos.
Personally without Simply Piano I wouldn't have taken the step to start playing. I have enough personal motivation to play every day. I find that being able to squeeze in a lesson at lunch time, or after-work ad hoc when I have a chance is so beneficial. And sometimes I do half a lesson, or 5 lessons depending on energy & progress. Once I finish the app or playing for long enough, I think then I would like to get a teacher to look at correcting some bad habits and getting some tips. You can even get remote teachers now which is great, I would like to give that a go.
I am a Clarinet player and just started on Keyboard a week or so. You know what your exercises are the firsts am practising to start with. Keep the good work friend👍 Wish me good luck for practicing and I wish you good luck for tutoring😆💐
Never having played, I find SimplyPiano is a good place to start. Especially in a pandemic. Once I get the basics down, I will get a teacher. I also only have a used keyboard and if I continue to find joy in it, I will upgrade to a real piano. Personally, I love that I can make progress in my own time and just have the opportunity to begin with.
I'm using Simple Piano and it does has the numbers for finger positions, although, as you said, it depends on you to respect the technique, which makes me think 🤔 because if you don't use it it's more difficult to play a song, so that they make you to follow the rules. Anyways, I agree about having a teacher to receive feedback :)
I took piano lessons as a kid for 4 years. There was so much she didn't teach me that I got frustrated and quit. What you said about basically learning everything at the same time (sorry, don't recall exactly what you said) is so true. I've been teaching myself for almost 4 years now. I've learned so much on my own that she never taught. She used the Thompson piano books. I was in the 4th grade book when I stopped and I know I struggled with it. I'm finding it much easier now because I actually know what key I'm playing in and know about things like chord inversions, diminished chords, etc. There's no good music store around here. Much of this time was also spent caring for my Dad (who's now in assisted living) and then my husband (he passed away from cancer in April). So I haven't had time to really look for certain types of books. I would love to find something that has all the scales, fingering, chromatic scales, all the chords, etc.
The Alfred books are quite good to get all that. Some cover from technique, exercises, chords, and theory. I recommend Alfred's complete book of scales, chords, arpeggios and cadences.
@@bung0144 thanks. I'll have to look into it. The book I have on scales has scales, arpeggios and candence chords. I've been working on the Alfred's All in One adult books. I'm in book 3. I've also been using the Thompson books. I'm now officially past where I got as a kid.
I have used Skoove and some other piano learning apps. One problem that I noticed is that the sheet music does not include dynamics. It is good to see the fingering demonstrated by a real person's hands, but missing dynamics/pedal is a serious problem for me.
I see apps and teachers as complementary. A teacher can instruct you in things that an app can't do or can't do well, such as posture, fingering, dynamics, expression, etc as well as answer those specific questions you might have about performing or theory. But the problem with a teacher is that you have maybe a hour a week with your teacher and then you have to practice what you've learned on your own; which often means you get a week to practice your mistakes and then another week to unlearn your mistakes (while learning new ones!) An app can give you constant and direct feedback so you catch a lot of mistakes (not all of them, that's what the teacher is for) early. The best world is one in which your teacher integrates the curriculum with the app. In this respect, Piano Marvel is outstanding. Not only does it cover a lot of piano techniques and theory, but it also supports teachers who want to upload their own sheet music and curriculum so that they can direct your practice time in ways that work with within their course of study. A good piano app should make itself superfluous in the long run. If you have to MUST have the app to play a new piece, you haven't learned to play the piano, you've learned to play a piano game. I think the goal should be playing that involve just you, the piano, and sheet music.
I wish Piano Marvel could hear acoustic pianos and work with Android devices. It seems an excellent learning tool but I'm not getting a electric when I have the real thing in my house. I hope they upgrade their technology soon.
Now coming up 70, having at the beginning of the year purchased a Yamaha EZ-300 organ and set about reviewing most of the teaching apps using my many years of teaching and training I finally went for Piano Marvel. I also was a private tutor for 12 years teaching Maths from my home. I agree with much of what you say but not surprisingly being quite young you made no account of older people and their ability to concentrate for an one hour and most of all for most people, especially parents is the cost AGE Which you made no account of, I have studied all my life, been an active reader and spent hours on PCs but and it may just be me, but I find that only after 15 mins on following Piano Marvel, which I think is very good, in showing the Grans Staff with a small green bar line at various bps for the student to play, to be very tiring. I often as a private tutor on seeing my students both young and old seeing a similar tiredness would stop teaching and chat for a few minutes, what with initial introduction at the beginning and at the end of my tutorials discussing what they wanted me to teach and then summarise at the end what I had taughtso , in total my sessions in actuality was really only 30 mins. I suspect that would be true for a Piano tutor as well. COST Average rate per hour is £45, which if attended for say 48 weeks of a year would cost £2160 ($ 2659). Also as I finding out, I can tell even practising every day, it is going to take me 3 years to be able to say I can play the piano which is £6,480. Where as Piano Marvel will cost me about £255 for three years.
I play badminton too :) i only use online/yt/ free coaching same as i do for learning piano... Another PRO by learnig this way is having FUN and also sense of acomplishment that you can do it yourself.. I appreciate your work.. Big thanks.
The great thing is that we have good tools to complement our learning. I love to have lessons once in a while, few books and also few apps, along with following teachers channels like you.
I noticed Simply Piano only keeps track of whether you hit each note at the right time but not how long you hold them. I don’t know if the others are different.
Good to know! I’m in Denver and starting lessons in July at around 150 bucks for 3- 1hr lessons a month. I’ve decided to pass on the apps for now out of fear of getting impatient and trying to progress too fast. I’ll stick with your videos and a live teacher for now
I’m a total beginner and I signed up for a proper class with a proper teacher now. You are right, I’m not motivated to learn piano from the apps @ any books coz it’s a one way learning. So I personally think it’s better for me to get proper teacher so that I wont be ruining my mind or fingers @ etc by getting used to a wrong way of playing piano
Playing the wrong notes is very unlikely since a good learning program would stop you for every wrong note until you get it right. Correct counting may be a bit of a stretch depending on the program. Not sure how far up you can go technically besides getting to an intermediate level. You hear advertisement like a person with no music background learned to do Pachelbel Canon in D in a few months using the app. With a teacher, at least you are forced to learn different styles & genres. Some you may not like very well. When learning yourself, some people are stuck playing the few pieces they wanted to learn and not step outside their comfort zone.
I was an absolute beginner when I started with SimplyPiano and now I'm still an amateur but one who can read sheets and play some basic things. Gonna continue and change to Yousician because I like the style more.
Hey you're the second Jazzer I know know :D the other one is a digital artist. I've been thinking about grabbing Skoove because a year is on sale for $45 for black friday. I just want to play some 80's synth stuff and incorporate it with my guitar. For the price of 1 lesson I think it might be worth it just to have around.
I don't think you can get the same progress from app as one on one lessons. I like classical music. Now I have a teacher I really like and only can take virtual lessons because of moving. It costs the same. Even virtual lessons, she will point out my hand position, finger strength, dynamics, theory questions, etc when talking lessons. I learned from scratch at 50 years old. After two and half years, I'm able to play lever 7 (CA CM test level)songs now. I was able to play memorized Fur Elise full version after 8 months. Btw, I usually practice 3-5 hours daily and my teacher said I was the fastest learner among all her students enen including kids.
@@jazerleepiano Thank you Jazer. I'm currently working on Beethoven Sonata in G major 2nd movement. This is my 6th week to work on this whole sonata. I've memorized the 1st movement and still polishing. I'm trying to work on reading music well and also memorizing . I grew up in China and my parents were not able to afford a piano when I was a kid. I've achieved a lot in sports and other academic areas. Learning piano was my dream for a long time. I'm a mom and working full-time. I took a substitute piano lesson two and half years ago because my son was sick and not enough notice to cancel the lesson. I found out I could still learn even I was 50. I started with some simple minutes and fun songs. After 5 months, I learned Riverflows in You and memorized it very easily. Then I learned another song Nuvole Bianche which I like. My daily practice starts Hanon exercises and sight reading for 1hr, play old songs for half an hour or more and the rest time for current pieces. After 8 months learning, I finished Hanon 50 exercises and play all scales in 4 octaves, along with other classic and contemporary pieces. Because of covid, I only had 15 months in person lessons and the rest lessons were by virtual. I took my 1st California Certificate of Merit level 5 test this March after 2 years and 2 months. I scored 99% on theroy, Excellent on techniques and repertoires (Fur Elise, Bach Invention No 1, and Waltz op post by Chopin), Good on sight reading. I really like your videos and it's helpful to get more advices on different topics from pros. I've been watching your older ones recorded 2 years ago as well. Thanks for posting awesome videos.
I'm using Simply Piano, and I love it. The format used really works for my style of learning. The coloured backgrounds with only the stave in white really helps with my vision issues too. For me there is plenty of motivation to keep practicing with its bell sound when you get it right and the star rewards to show me how I'm doing. I'm neurodivergent and having a physical teacher right next to me that I would have to play for would make the whole process impossible for me. Another point not mentioned was you are using your own equipment, so an instrument that works for you. I have limited dexterity, and weighted keys would make it impossible for me to play. I have a Yamaha Peaggero NP 15 and this with Simply Piano app is a winner for my situation. For spoonies who can't predict when they will or won't have the dexterity be play at set time of day or week, its been brilliant.
I think simply piano is good as well because is learning you your sit position hands position and fingers position to play the right note properly with correct finger it learn you right tempo with metronome and it has huge library of songs I think it's not so bad . I want to try scoove to.
I like the apps. I can play as much as I want per day and not wait until the next personal visit. I do miss not having the corrections of my hand placements.
I think so you should start live classes on RUclips this will help many people... isn't it !! People can ask their questions in live chat section as well !!! Please do it it wood be great help to so many of us....
Sangat suka video ini begitu memberikan motivasi untuk kita lebih bijak dalam belajar entah dari aplikasi ataupun dari guru. Untuk saat ini saya sedang belajar bersama aplikasi. dan saya jadikan video supaya terlihat perjalanan belajar saya belajar piano (mempunyai memori). kedepannya untuk meningkatkan ketepatan kecepatan & emosi barulah saya mengunakan guru.
I'm about 40. And I am just begiiner))) I use Sibellius, MuseScore + sheet notes. Now I also try to learn music theory. It's complicated. My two hands want to play simultaneously the same. It's awful(
Not being a teacher simply piano helps me to teach my granddaughter basic skills. I'm with her. I support her. I correct hers mistakes and so on. If I had tried to do it on my own, definitely I couldn't. Nice review!
I used youwcian for the first 20 hours or so of my practice and it was pretty helpful when you're just bashing out C scales and trying to get basic hand independence down. After that I switched to a teacher and never looked at apps again.
as a beginner im curious why it matters if you are using proper form ot=r proper hand placement? in the end if the music is spot on and the tone perfect what does it really matter in the end? sure if you wanna be a professional pianist I get that. but for the average person who just wants to learn to play and read music I don't understand why it matters at all logically.
I been using piano apps for the last year and have helped me a lot... but at the same time I am doing wrong that a piano teacher could bring to my awareness.. but basically I recommend apps. 👍
I am currently self teaching using a book for adults. At some point, sooner than later, I will get a teacher. However, I want no short cuts with apps. They won't teach me techniques or give feedback. I used to dance, particularly ballet. Nothing worse than self taught ballet steps that must be corrected.
Just using learning apps without a teacher, the beginner player could get into bad techniques in fingerings and playing. Also it is all how good the teaching Apps or music websites are. You may be able to correct your problems by yourself and do well, but may take longer without a good teacher. I have learned from both a private teacher and a couple great Jazz website teachers. Once you know the basics of music, it is easy to learn without a teacher watching everything you do. Note: There are many players that learned on their own and did well.
Is playing Piano on mobile app using 2 Row Good? I play with 2 Row but the 2 Row does not exist on Irl Piano.. Rip also hand position on phone and real piano is diffrent
Hey jazer.. I am Samriddhi ,samriddhi bind from india....I am learning keyboard from school they give it as optional.....I am 12, will turn 13 in just 1 month I started my classes when I was 6 I think so I still can't play it that well , I have trouble playing with left hand and little finger even on my right and chords . How can I learn it all ?? I think so I need to start again....right ?! Please can you give me a way ? To learn all this....I want to learn!. Waiting for your reply !!!
kinda sus how the most technically advanced piece I see people learning with this kinda thing is für elise, which will normaly take people with a teacher 1-3 years.
It's April, which means I'm on my Annual Your Lie in April Binge, and I'm feeling motivated and inspired to brush off my piano. Looking for a good teaching app.
I see Skoove could be good for adults but do you recommend it for kids? (My son is 7 and just starting. I will probably get him a live teacher in September when the teachers in my area take new students but he loves apps and I would like to get him started.)
I think I'd rather have a teacher like I did when I was a kid. With programs, you kinda have to play the way the software is programmed. I'm going through the basics in Playground Sessions, and while it is a good refresher to what I know, I had problems going through the Rhythm Section. Not so much keeping a good tempo, but keeping up with the lesson's speed. It would slowly go through a whole note, then speed up through half and quarter notes and speed it goes through them doesn't feel like the correct tempo.
Thank you Jazer! Question cuz you strike me as a straight up guy. I'm looking at Synthesia and PianoForAll [PFA]. I know, I know...but please bare with me for context I'm trying to come at this from various angles. I'm a mid aged adult & learning from scratch since early March and 'reasonably' diligent BUT really waning lately. Have learned many "Do's/Don'ts" like your vid on YT that totally line up with some piano books I've found. So I DO focus on proper hands/fingering, scales hands together [patterns over memorization], and being a tech guy I'm fine with the theory. However, as per a TED Talk by Sven Haefliger, adults lose interest in 'traditional' methods - to which my answer is yes he nailed that. To be clear, I'm not looking to abandon theory/scales enroute to read music BUT rather considering the above programs to buttress motivation by learning some actual music while applying said theory. PFA "seems" all about chords & playing with "some" theory and Synthesia is essentially scrolling sheet music to practice sight reading/fingering to which there is a truck load of MIDI files beyond their library to choose from - so certainly not going to get bored and I even found Hanon MIDI files. BTW - the falling rectangles can be shut off as I'm not interest in memorizing falling rectangles. I VERY much welcome what I'm sure will be honest opinions on such matters. Please and thank you.
I tried to sign up to Skoove but they did not like Apple‘s Safari on the iPad. It wouldn’t let me set up my keyboard. I would love to eventually get a teacher if this Covid and its variants ever stopped. Very frustrating. I will keep on with Piano Marvel.
Great vid... I'm learning piano from past 1-2 months now with apps and RUclips...and I can play some basic pieces but the problem is my fingers get tense and other fingers stay up when I'm playing...
I am a ski instructor and have done it for 11 years now. Finding a instructor that fits is tough. But with APPS they all have sample courses. I recommend trying all the sample courses and see which one is best for you. One highly regarded APP the lady talked so fast all I kept doing was backing up the video over and over trying to understand her point. I passed. Very expensive one too. I went through about eight and I finally settled on one with a load of downloadable worksheets and plenty of videos and to me it seems heavy on theory so far but I like that. Also very affordable. One price one payment and a lifetime member. But sample all of them...Getting a personal live instructor is great too but what if I got a person who talks fast and it isn't a good fit? Lotta money for nothing and without knowing what to expect for a lesson you have nothing to compare to. Same goes for ski instructors. To me a good ski instructor gives just one task at a time and does a SLOW demo of what they what you to do along with a simple explanation. They will tell you what to expect you to feel. Lots of these things are interchangeable with different learning experiences. One more point to Jazer who I enjoy. Don't expect the newbie to understand "piano lingo" or music lingo. I can't start talking about downhill or outside ski or uphill or inside ski till I define these things. I shouldn't have to bring a dictionary to class. Carry on my friend wishing you the best.
@@jazerleepiano If it’s because you think I am a beginner I am not. So my history, I’m out in Michigan. I’ve been playing piano for 4 yrs but not consistent since the last 2 yrs. I’ve had 1 instructor back in 2016 but she was not reliable on a weekly bases. I have played pieces from Ludovico Einaudi, Mozart, and just My own take of my fav pop songs. My sheet reading is about a C+ and i am not that good at improving. Those are my weaknesses that I want to strengthen. I am very motivated and flexible. As for pay I am able to pay up to $80 USD an hour.
I started Planung piano three and a half week ago with the Simply Piano App, also my seven year old daughter. First week we try with my old Keyboard from childhood (only a kids-keyboard). We play as much as we can (my daughter 1-2 hours a day, I mostly 2-3 hours a day). We learned much in short time. The App listen to the Keyboard, but because the kennst so old there are some Problems, so I decided to buy a E-Piano. Since two weeks we play with the Piano and since one week with MIDI-Files from piano to the App. I love it really much. You are right, there ist no teacher to correct false finger or hand positions. But I play it how I learn it in the App and use straight the same fingers. Because I wanted to learn playing piano Sinne I was a child, I'm really motivated. But I can't pay a teacher. The App costs now 8€ per month for us all together, that is good for us. The piano was the only time to need much money, but I can realise it. I practise a long time every day to get better and I see, how good it goes. And also I watch many piano tutorials with lots of tipps. I study some piano-videos from good pianists. At least, I'm happy so with this way. I live one of my childhood dreams. I only want to play for me and family and I think the App is good for this one. But I'm a Auto-didact my whole life, I think, not everyone can learn it in this way. Thanks for the video!
Please recommend to me the best app for learning piano with the idea in mind that I want to learn to play classical piano...and/or a book that will guide me as well ..please 🙏..thank you very much for this
Any of these apps teach use the pedal? I have not seen one, and although not required at the beginning it is kind of nice to be exposed, and some songs sound way better.
I teach piano. Piano maestro is so awesome with young learners, but I would never recommend apps without a teacher. The apps are a nice addition, but also not every student likes them. Absolutely no technique!!!! Good for learning notes and enjoying music.
Hey Mel, I'm in my late sixties, and when I decided to learn piano and remembered dread formal music lessons, I looked for what apps kids got to make them find music fun. I did one year of piano maestro aged 65 without a teacher, and loved every minute of it! After that I switched to Simply Piano and breezed through to intermediate level. Now after 2.5 years I have finished their courses and I work every day on Simply Piano Play Beta songs. As an adult, I was able to balance my lack of a teacher with following just about every RUclips piano teacher I could.
@@robertYTB78g That's wonderful to hear! I teach group piano and online classes for all ages. The only thing is technique. And, it is very common when I'm watching the simply piano group videos online. On a digital piano, this isn't a huge deal- but it is on a piano. I'm the kind of teacher, though, who wants students to love music. So if you are enjoying, I am happy for you!!!
I am learning keyboard for 6 weeks. My teacher helps me a lot. Till date I am not feeling the need for an application. Let's see. I will keep in mind your tips.
Adult all-in-one course (Alfred's basic adult piano course) seems to be very popular. look it up. loads on youtube about these books and progress videos too.
Where I live, it costs ~$400 per month for 1 hr lessons. That’s $4,800 a year. I don’t have that much money lying around. I could save for a month of lessons maybe twice a year but if piano apps didn’t exist, I would not even bother trying to learn. Music lessons are an extremely expensive hobby.
Oh man im really crushed with these lmao i signed up a simply piano app few days ago and this vedio just destroyed the motivation vibes i been getting lol
Do you teach via on line like zoom or Skype by any chance like 1 to 1. I just found you and just in 3 videos I’ve learned so much wisdom love your teaching methods
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I have heard of Skoove from Gamazda who plays rock song covers on her channel. Thank you for giving the glimpse into the app!
Piano Marvel is actually really good if you already know how to play and just want to improve your sight reading. You gotta have a digital piano though.
@@NimeuMusic I’ve downloaded piano marvel and then realised I couldn’t use it with my acoustic piano 😕
@@PianoforPleasure That's too bad. They say you can use it with acoustic piano too but it doesn't really work. With a digital it's really good though and works just fine.
Why didn’t you add the 3rd type of learning? “Watching Jazer’s Tutorials on RUclips” :) Can we call it best of both worlds? (At least in some cases)?
Maybe you can make an app?
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A good summary, although I would suggest a couple of additional important benefits of piano apps. One is the availability of backing tracks. This gives beginners a significant motivational boost since what you play (which is very simple as a beginner), sounds better and makes practice more enjoyable. The other is that the apps tend to provide an objective measure of your progress. This also benefits beginners because it is possible to see progress even when it often feels like there is none.
Thanks for sharing Jeffrey!
Agree....good points
You are spot on with this, which I confirm by way of my most enjoyable use of the Simply Piano app every day over the last 2.5 years. It's really natural to do this too if you have learned lead guitar over the years, you just have to have a backing track and know straight away how much better everything sounds. I think pianists seem to be catching up only now because of these apps.
Backing tracks can make things fun and that's a bonus. They can also obscure poor play, making you think you play better than you actually do.
@@PackerBronco I agree with that, but perhaps the motivational benefits make it worthwhile.
Hi, I am retired and started to play piano again three years ago. I have learnt when I was 11 years old until 17. I enjoy all your advices. Thank you!
That's great Francine! Please update me your piano progress in 3 months
Great video and I think a fairly balanced overview. One comment on your con #1 regarding motivation - I actually think that this is one of the major pros of this type of app. For most beginners especially adults, that initial valley of pain where you just need to spend lots of time practicing and the results that you see may not really match up to your expectations. Gamifying that part of your learning and making it fun, can help to bridge that gap until you start to play more complicated pieces that are more rewarding in themselves. In the end I think these apps will pull a lot more people into the music world, and give more work to music teachers once people progress to the point that the learning apps are limiting their progress. Win win!
I'm also an introvert
Also apps are really gold to catch that initial impuls when you want to start learning piano but don't have an Instrument: You buy some cheap Keyboard and start practicing immediately and if you are still motivated after some longer period you could find out if it was just a "quick" idea or to go the the next step and find a teacher and buy a proper Instrument.
The benefits from having a teacher than can give you feedback in real time are huge and it really never ends. I studied classical singing and conducting and to this day I find it beneficial to get someone listening in and watching besides myself. The best tip I could give someone wanting to learn an instrument, find yourself a good teacher! Use youtube for tips, second opinions, listening to others play and inspiration. Having said that, I DID teach myself piano but at a point I already had a lot of musical baggage which makes a difference. Still a teacher would and still would be very helpful.
Great words Susan, thanks for sharing 😀
I would love to get a teacher but I don’t have the money for that.
It all boils down to what is your goal in learning to play the piano. If you want to become a pro or hope to be a concert pianist or have the opportunity to play at Carnegie Hall in New York someday, then go get a very good piano teacher to teach you all the techniques.
But if you are like thousands of others like me who just want to spend their time wisely, who doesn't even know where Middle C is, piano apps could be a great and fun way to start your piano learning journey. It is affordable and you get to learn at your own pace. By the way, many who started learning give up after a couple of months or discover they don't have the patience to learn. But for those who are truly motivated, they could later on proceed to hiring a teacher once the apps have outgrown their usefulness.
I agree with most of what you say here. From my own experience, I took piano lessons from my music theory professor in college, although piano was never my major instrument (I played trumpet in high school and was in a punk band playing guitar and bass). That was all about 20 years ago. Lately, I've been getting back into it with a keyboard and an app. I definitely appreciate all the lessons I had before, and would definitely suggest any first time player do real, in person lessons to get a foundation first. But for picking back up after a couple of decades of not using piano skills, or if you're already beyond the bare-bones beginning stage, piano apps are great, as long as you self-motivate.
Thanks for sharing your story Pete
I’ve tried self taught piano after a decade gap in my studies. After self-teaching for about a year, I realized it was time for a teacher!
I know everyone is different, but a teacher is SO worth it. I was super energized and motivated after my first lesson. 😍😍 The motivation, validation, and teacher relationship is so valuable!
I've been playing for 2 years and taught myself. Yesterday I considered to get a teacher and my those are expensive! 50 bucks a hour or 25 per half hour! Man, that is expensive for a student :(
Wow! Good for you! It sounds like you’ve made amazing progress. Compared to my area, that is a low rate! Music lesson rates can vary very widely and are mostly dependent on the local economy. In places where the cost of living is high, the average lesson rate increases. In areas where the cost of living is low, the average rate will also decrease. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area and average rates are around $50-60 per 30 min and $80-100 per hour.
How we spend our money is VERY important and no one in the right mind would say music lessons are worth going broke over. (No way!!) So I really feel for what you say.. This is a difficult economy. :(:(
Fortunately, we have amazing RUclips channels like this to help guide our self-taught journey. :)
Btw! I actually only do one-off lessons lessons with that piano teacher. Mostly because A) I don’t have time in my schedule for weekly lessons, B) I don’t want weekly lessons, C) Weekly lessons don’t work for my budget. Also, some teachers may offer a sliding rate for those with low income. (I’ve seen this more as an offer for families with children.) But it just shows you, maybe there’s a way to customize your learning experience as well. :)
Hang in there! And good luck!
@@rachell783 yes- I charge $40 for 30, and $65 hour. I can attest that's how much they are on the west coast.
I'm an awesome teacher, too- not to toot my own piano, but I love playing and teaching. The students I take on learn well. I use apps like Piano Maestro and iRealPro. Anything it takes in a student-centered approach to make piano players for life! ❤️
Pretty much the same for me. I’ve tried teaching myself on my grandmothers keyboard with piano apps, I failed, and I stopped. I tried several times a year, but never stuck to it.
Recently I’ve been dating someone who has been playing the piano and learning with a real teacher, and since she’s been teaching me I have been learning the piano so much better! Her feedback in combination with Jazers videos have been a great combination for me so far! I’ve been playing only for a week, but in that week I have learned more (both physically as well as in reading sheet music) than I ever did in those 15 years trying to teach myself. I can now finally play with two hands at the same time and I can now actually read sheet music. IT’s not perfect yet by a long shot, but having someone to explain these things to you as well as help you with your fingering and with reading notes and chords and such is just so much easier! I am definitely gonna buy my own keyboard soon so I can play/practice at home as well. Currently I can only play when I’m at her house
I found that Pianote has a great balance between video lessons and having a teacher. You have live lessons, Q&As and you can submit videos of your own playing, so teacher can give you advice reviewing your videos.
Flowkey actually helps me read sheet music faster and I enjoyed learning it, but a piano teacher is way more helpful in learning rhythm and theory 😝
Great video. It answered one of the questions I have always wondered wheen I see a piano app ad.
Hope this was helpful Sam 😀
Personally without Simply Piano I wouldn't have taken the step to start playing.
I have enough personal motivation to play every day.
I find that being able to squeeze in a lesson at lunch time, or after-work ad hoc when I have a chance is so beneficial.
And sometimes I do half a lesson, or 5 lessons depending on energy & progress.
Once I finish the app or playing for long enough, I think then I would like to get a teacher to look at correcting some bad habits and getting some tips.
You can even get remote teachers now which is great, I would like to give that a go.
I am a Clarinet player and just started on Keyboard a week or so. You know what your exercises are the firsts am practising to start with.
Keep the good work friend👍
Wish me good luck for practicing and I wish you good luck for tutoring😆💐
You can do it!
Never having played, I find SimplyPiano is a good place to start. Especially in a pandemic. Once I get the basics down, I will get a teacher. I also only have a used keyboard and if I continue to find joy in it, I will upgrade to a real piano.
Personally, I love that I can make progress in my own time and just have the opportunity to begin with.
I'm using Simple Piano and it does has the numbers for finger positions, although, as you said, it depends on you to respect the technique, which makes me think 🤔 because if you don't use it it's more difficult to play a song, so that they make you to follow the rules. Anyways, I agree about having a teacher to receive feedback :)
I took piano lessons as a kid for 4 years. There was so much she didn't teach me that I got frustrated and quit.
What you said about basically learning everything at the same time (sorry, don't recall exactly what you said) is so true. I've been teaching myself for almost 4 years now. I've learned so much on my own that she never taught.
She used the Thompson piano books. I was in the 4th grade book when I stopped and I know I struggled with it. I'm finding it much easier now because I actually know what key I'm playing in and know about things like chord inversions, diminished chords, etc.
There's no good music store around here. Much of this time was also spent caring for my Dad (who's now in assisted living) and then my husband (he passed away from cancer in April). So I haven't had time to really look for certain types of books. I would love to find something that has all the scales, fingering, chromatic scales, all the chords, etc.
The Alfred books are quite good to get all that. Some cover from technique, exercises, chords, and theory. I recommend Alfred's complete book of scales, chords, arpeggios and cadences.
@@bung0144 thanks. I'll have to look into it. The book I have on scales has scales, arpeggios and candence chords.
I've been working on the Alfred's All in One adult books. I'm in book 3.
I've also been using the Thompson books. I'm now officially past where I got as a kid.
I have used Skoove and some other piano learning apps. One problem that I noticed is that the sheet music does not include dynamics. It is good to see the fingering demonstrated by a real person's hands, but missing dynamics/pedal is a serious problem for me.
I see apps and teachers as complementary. A teacher can instruct you in things that an app can't do or can't do well, such as posture, fingering, dynamics, expression, etc as well as answer those specific questions you might have about performing or theory. But the problem with a teacher is that you have maybe a hour a week with your teacher and then you have to practice what you've learned on your own; which often means you get a week to practice your mistakes and then another week to unlearn your mistakes (while learning new ones!) An app can give you constant and direct feedback so you catch a lot of mistakes (not all of them, that's what the teacher is for) early.
The best world is one in which your teacher integrates the curriculum with the app. In this respect, Piano Marvel is outstanding. Not only does it cover a lot of piano techniques and theory, but it also supports teachers who want to upload their own sheet music and curriculum so that they can direct your practice time in ways that work with within their course of study.
A good piano app should make itself superfluous in the long run. If you have to MUST have the app to play a new piece, you haven't learned to play the piano, you've learned to play a piano game. I think the goal should be playing that involve just you, the piano, and sheet music.
Appreciate the advice ❤️ Im using Simply Piano for now and once I finished the program, I am planning reach out to a Teacher.
I wish Piano Marvel could hear acoustic pianos and work with Android devices. It seems an excellent learning tool but I'm not getting a electric when I have the real thing in my house. I hope they upgrade their technology soon.
Now coming up 70, having at the beginning of the year purchased a Yamaha EZ-300 organ and set about reviewing most of the teaching apps using my many years of teaching and training I finally went for Piano Marvel. I also was a private tutor for 12 years teaching Maths from my home. I agree with much of what you say but not surprisingly being quite young you made no account of older people and their ability to concentrate for an one hour and most of all for most people, especially parents is the cost
AGE Which you made no account of, I have studied all my life, been an active reader and spent hours on PCs but and it may just be me, but I find that only after 15 mins on following Piano Marvel, which I think is very good, in showing the Grans Staff with a small green bar line at various bps for the student to play, to be very tiring. I often as a private tutor on seeing my students both young and old seeing a similar tiredness would stop teaching and chat for a few minutes, what with initial introduction at the beginning and at the end of my tutorials discussing what they wanted me to teach and then summarise at the end what I had taughtso , in total my sessions in actuality was really only 30 mins. I suspect that would be true for a Piano tutor as well.
COST Average rate per hour is £45, which if attended for say 48 weeks of a year would cost £2160 ($ 2659). Also as I finding out, I can tell even practising every day, it is going to take me 3 years to be able to say I can play the piano which is £6,480. Where as Piano Marvel will cost me about £255 for three years.
I play badminton too :) i only use online/yt/ free coaching same as i do for learning piano... Another PRO by learnig this way is having FUN and also sense of acomplishment that you can do it yourself.. I appreciate your work.. Big thanks.
The great thing is that we have good tools to complement our learning. I love to have lessons once in a while, few books and also few apps, along with following teachers channels like you.
I noticed Simply Piano only keeps track of whether you hit each note at the right time but not how long you hold them. I don’t know if the others are different.
I really love Piano-Marvel, it has a strong focus on technique.
Great! Where are you based? How long have you been playing piano?
Good to know! I’m in Denver and starting lessons in July at around 150 bucks for 3- 1hr lessons a month. I’ve decided to pass on the apps for now out of fear of getting impatient and trying to progress too fast. I’ll stick with your videos and a live teacher for now
All the best Moonbot!
I’m a total beginner and I signed up for a proper class with a proper teacher now. You are right, I’m not motivated to learn piano from the apps @ any books coz it’s a one way learning. So I personally think it’s better for me to get proper teacher so that I wont be ruining my mind or fingers @ etc by getting used to a wrong way of playing piano
Playing the wrong notes is very unlikely since a good learning program would stop you for every wrong note until you get it right. Correct counting may be a bit of a stretch depending on the program. Not sure how far up you can go technically besides getting to an intermediate level. You hear advertisement like a person with no music background learned to do Pachelbel Canon in D in a few months using the app.
With a teacher, at least you are forced to learn different styles & genres. Some you may not like very well. When learning yourself, some people are stuck playing the few pieces they wanted to learn and not step outside their comfort zone.
I was an absolute beginner when I started with SimplyPiano and now I'm still an amateur but one who can read sheets and play some basic things. Gonna continue and change to Yousician because I like the style more.
Hey you're the second Jazzer I know know :D the other one is a digital artist. I've been thinking about grabbing Skoove because a year is on sale for $45 for black friday. I just want to play some 80's synth stuff and incorporate it with my guitar. For the price of 1 lesson I think it might be worth it just to have around.
I don't think you can get the same progress from app as one on one lessons. I like classical music. Now I have a teacher I really like and only can take virtual lessons because of moving. It costs the same. Even virtual lessons, she will point out my hand position, finger strength, dynamics, theory questions, etc when talking lessons. I learned from scratch at 50 years old. After two and half years, I'm able to play lever 7 (CA CM test level)songs now. I was able to play memorized Fur Elise full version after 8 months. Btw, I usually practice 3-5 hours daily and my teacher said I was the fastest learner among all her students enen including kids.
Wow you are impressive and inspiring! What pieces are you working on right now?
@@jazerleepiano Thank you Jazer. I'm currently working on Beethoven Sonata in G major 2nd movement. This is my 6th week to work on this whole sonata. I've memorized the 1st movement and still polishing. I'm trying to work on reading music well and also memorizing . I grew up in China and my parents were not able to afford a piano when I was a kid. I've achieved a lot in sports and other academic areas. Learning piano was my dream for a long time. I'm a mom and working full-time. I took a substitute piano lesson two and half years ago because my son was sick and not enough notice to cancel the lesson. I found out I could still learn even I was 50. I started with some simple minutes and fun songs. After 5 months, I learned Riverflows in You and memorized it very easily. Then I learned another song Nuvole Bianche which I like. My daily practice starts Hanon exercises and sight reading for 1hr, play old songs for half an hour or more and the rest time for current pieces. After 8 months learning, I finished Hanon 50 exercises and play all scales in 4 octaves, along with other classic and contemporary pieces. Because of covid, I only had 15 months in person lessons and the rest lessons were by virtual. I took my 1st California Certificate of Merit level 5 test this March after 2 years and 2 months. I scored 99% on theroy, Excellent on techniques and repertoires (Fur Elise, Bach Invention No 1, and Waltz op post by Chopin), Good on sight reading. I really like your videos and it's helpful to get more advices on different topics from pros. I've been watching your older ones recorded 2 years ago as well. Thanks for posting awesome videos.
Thanks. I think con 2 is the biggest draw back. You videos a so on target for things I want to know about piano. Thanks!
Great to hear Jeff, hope I can be of help to you
Im looking 👀 into getting Skoove real soon. Can it be downloaded to a laptop 💻? I see people taking about it to phone 📱 and tablet.
I'm using Simply Piano, and I love it. The format used really works for my style of learning. The coloured backgrounds with only the stave in white really helps with my vision issues too. For me there is plenty of motivation to keep practicing with its bell sound when you get it right and the star rewards to show me how I'm doing.
I'm neurodivergent and having a physical teacher right next to me that I would have to play for would make the whole process impossible for me. Another point not mentioned was you are using your own equipment, so an instrument that works for you. I have limited dexterity, and weighted keys would make it impossible for me to play. I have a Yamaha Peaggero NP 15 and this with Simply Piano app is a winner for my situation.
For spoonies who can't predict when they will or won't have the dexterity be play at set time of day or week, its been brilliant.
I think simply piano is good as well because is learning you your sit position hands position and fingers position to play the right note properly with correct finger it learn you right tempo with metronome and it has huge library of songs I think it's not so bad . I want to try scoove to.
So both!!! But as you said, for beginners especially, important to be guided correctly.... Bad habits are hard to break. Thanks Jazer!
You're welcomed Elaine
Nicely done. Great technique explaining your points. Thank you
Agree! Do you play piano?
I like the apps. I can play as much as I want per day and not wait until the next personal visit. I do miss not having the corrections of my hand placements.
You are an amazing teacher.
I think so you should start live classes on RUclips this will help many people... isn't it !! People can ask their questions in live chat section as well !!! Please do it it wood be great help to so many of us....
Having a teacher is best but we cannot all afford the fees for those lessons.
Sangat suka video ini begitu memberikan motivasi untuk kita lebih bijak dalam belajar entah dari aplikasi ataupun dari guru. Untuk saat ini saya sedang belajar bersama aplikasi. dan saya jadikan video supaya terlihat perjalanan belajar saya belajar piano (mempunyai memori).
kedepannya untuk meningkatkan ketepatan kecepatan & emosi barulah saya mengunakan guru.
It’s true. I’d never touched a piano a week ago but last night I played La Campanella by Lizst at Carnegie Hall.
I'm about 40. And I am just begiiner))) I use Sibellius, MuseScore + sheet notes. Now I also try to learn music theory. It's complicated.
My two hands want to play simultaneously the same. It's awful(
Not being a teacher simply piano helps me to teach my granddaughter basic skills. I'm with her. I support her. I correct hers mistakes and so on. If I had tried to do it on my own, definitely I couldn't. Nice review!
I used youwcian for the first 20 hours or so of my practice and it was pretty helpful when you're just bashing out C scales and trying to get basic hand independence down. After that I switched to a teacher and never looked at apps again.
Your video has been very helpful, thank you very much. How many inches would you recommend the tablet be to use Skoove?
as a beginner im curious why it matters if you are using proper form ot=r proper hand placement? in the end if the music is spot on and the tone perfect what does it really matter in the end? sure if you wanna be a professional pianist I get that. but for the average person who just wants to learn to play and read music I don't understand why it matters at all logically.
We have to know about the right finger position on piano in all scale
Please make a video about all 12 scale finger position
I been using piano apps for the last year and have helped me a lot... but at the same time I am doing wrong that a piano teacher could bring to my awareness.. but basically I recommend apps. 👍
I am currently self teaching using a book for adults. At some point, sooner than later, I will get a teacher. However, I want no short cuts with apps. They won't teach me techniques or give feedback. I used to dance, particularly ballet. Nothing worse than self taught ballet steps that must be corrected.
Is Yousician good
Which portable piano good for learning
Just using learning apps without a teacher, the beginner player could get into bad techniques in fingerings and playing. Also it is all how good the teaching Apps or music websites are. You may be able to correct your problems by yourself and do well, but may take longer without a good teacher.
I have learned from both a private teacher and a couple great Jazz website teachers. Once you know the basics of music, it is easy to learn without a teacher watching everything you do.
Note: There are many players that learned on their own and did well.
Hi Jazer, I don't know anything about piano but want to learn, I live in India, how can I learn from you?
want to attempt learn music theory as well as play popular songs so Skoove appears to fit the bill. Thanks for the recommendation Jazer,
I have a tutor who I work with but I'm going to use this app to supplement my in-person training.
Is playing Piano on mobile app using 2 Row Good? I play with 2 Row but the 2 Row does not exist on Irl Piano.. Rip also hand position on phone and real piano is diffrent
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Play notes with the wrong fingers. These are the only fingers I have
Hey jazer..
I am Samriddhi ,samriddhi bind from india....I am learning keyboard from school they give it as optional.....I am 12, will turn 13 in just 1 month I started my classes when I was 6 I think so I still can't play it that well , I have trouble playing with left hand and little finger even on my right and chords . How can I learn it all ?? I think so I need to start again....right ?! Please can you give me a way ? To learn all this....I want to learn!.
Waiting for your reply !!!
Hi Jazer, Can you give me your advice on the Piano app, Simply Piano? I've been using it for the past six months..
kinda sus how the most technically advanced piece I see people learning with this kinda thing is für elise, which will normaly take people with a teacher 1-3 years.
Awesome Video!
Thanks Bridgette!
It's April, which means I'm on my Annual Your Lie in April Binge, and I'm feeling motivated and inspired to brush off my piano. Looking for a good teaching app.
Thank you, great video. You didn't mention the benefit of having teacher and app. I have a teacher and I'm about to get Skoove.
when I play my piano app’s songs on my piano they do not sound like the singing notes that’s why I found your channel.
I see Skoove could be good for adults but do you recommend it for kids? (My son is 7 and just starting. I will probably get him a live teacher in September when the teachers in my area take new students but he loves apps and I would like to get him started.)
Thank You Jazer Lee, very easy to play the piano by watching your tutorials ❤ 💙 😊
I think I'd rather have a teacher like I did when I was a kid. With programs, you kinda have to play the way the software is programmed. I'm going through the basics in Playground Sessions, and while it is a good refresher to what I know, I had problems going through the Rhythm Section. Not so much keeping a good tempo, but keeping up with the lesson's speed. It would slowly go through a whole note, then speed up through half and quarter notes and speed it goes through them doesn't feel like the correct tempo.
These apps are mostly for people who already can't afford a teacher.
What about Flowkey?
Un profesor cobra entre 30-130$ y yo aquí cobro 10$ por clase 😭. Amo tus videos, gracias! Probaré Skoove.
I’m a beginner only 3 months in exactly
Thank you Jazer! Question cuz you strike me as a straight up guy.
I'm looking at Synthesia and PianoForAll [PFA]. I know, I know...but please bare with me for context I'm trying to come at this from various angles.
I'm a mid aged adult & learning from scratch since early March and 'reasonably' diligent BUT really waning lately. Have learned many "Do's/Don'ts" like your vid on YT that totally line up with some piano books I've found. So I DO focus on proper hands/fingering, scales hands together [patterns over memorization], and being a tech guy I'm fine with the theory.
However, as per a TED Talk by Sven Haefliger, adults lose interest in 'traditional' methods - to which my answer is yes he nailed that.
To be clear, I'm not looking to abandon theory/scales enroute to read music BUT rather considering the above programs to buttress motivation by learning some actual music while applying said theory. PFA "seems" all about chords & playing with "some" theory and Synthesia is essentially scrolling sheet music to practice sight reading/fingering to which there is a truck load of MIDI files beyond their library to choose from - so certainly not going to get bored and I even found Hanon MIDI files. BTW - the falling rectangles can be shut off as I'm not interest in memorizing falling rectangles.
I VERY much welcome what I'm sure will be honest opinions on such matters. Please and thank you.
I tried to sign up to Skoove but they did not like Apple‘s Safari on the iPad. It wouldn’t let me set up my keyboard. I would love to eventually get a teacher if this Covid and its variants ever stopped. Very frustrating. I will keep on with Piano Marvel.
I am a beginner and apps are a tool.. but end of the day there is no substitute for experience. OBTW Clocks by Coldplay is on my agenda👍
I'm a new subscriber and very new to piano too, this channle is really great looking forward watching new videos 🍻
Welcome aboard Abdallah! I hope to be some help to you
What’s your view on Playground Sessions and Pianote?
Great vid...
I'm learning piano from past 1-2 months now with apps and RUclips...and I can play some basic pieces but the problem is my fingers get tense and other fingers stay up when I'm playing...
You may need to consult a teacher if you are regularly experiencing tension Maindola
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Hey, how's your piano lesson? Where are you based?
Can you get by/succeed with #3?
I am a ski instructor and have done it for 11 years now. Finding a instructor that fits is tough. But with APPS they all have sample courses. I recommend trying all the sample courses and see which one is best for you. One highly regarded APP the lady talked so fast all I kept doing was backing up the video over and over trying to understand her point. I passed. Very expensive one too. I went through about eight and I finally settled on one with a load of downloadable worksheets and plenty of videos and to me it seems heavy on theory so far but I like that. Also very affordable. One price one payment and a lifetime member. But sample all of them...Getting a personal live instructor is great too but what if I got a person who talks fast and it isn't a good fit? Lotta money for nothing and without knowing what to expect for a lesson you have nothing to compare to. Same goes for ski instructors. To me a good ski instructor gives just one task at a time and does a SLOW demo of what they what you to do along with a simple explanation. They will tell you what to expect you to feel. Lots of these things are interchangeable with different learning experiences. One more point to Jazer who I enjoy. Don't expect the newbie to understand "piano lingo" or music lingo. I can't start talking about downhill or outside ski or uphill or inside ski till I define these things. I shouldn't have to bring a dictionary to class. Carry on my friend wishing you the best.
I think comparing those 2 things isn’t the right thing, I would rather compare apps (and maybe videos like Jazers) to teaching books.
Hey Jazer do you do virtual piano lessons by chance? I’m currently looking for a virtual instructor for myself.
Sorry Gerald I'm not taking students at the moment, all the best finding a teacher at the moment
@@jazerleepiano If it’s because you think I am a beginner I am not. So my history, I’m out in Michigan. I’ve been playing piano for 4 yrs but not consistent since the last 2 yrs. I’ve had 1 instructor back in 2016 but she was not reliable on a weekly bases. I have played pieces from Ludovico Einaudi, Mozart, and just My own take of my fav pop songs. My sheet reading is about a C+ and i am not that good at improving. Those are my weaknesses that I want to strengthen. I am very motivated and flexible. As for pay I am able to pay up to $80 USD an hour.
@@geraldelliott815 he doesn’t care. He just wants money the easy way
Please tell me which one 🥺🥺🙏
I had a bad experience with Skoove, sometimes it does not catch what I play. Is that because I am using digital piano?
I started Planung piano three and a half week ago with the Simply Piano App, also my seven year old daughter.
First week we try with my old Keyboard from childhood (only a kids-keyboard).
We play as much as we can (my daughter 1-2 hours a day, I mostly 2-3 hours a day). We learned much in short time. The App listen to the Keyboard, but because the kennst so old there are some Problems, so I decided to buy a E-Piano. Since two weeks we play with the Piano and since one week with MIDI-Files from piano to the App. I love it really much. You are right, there ist no teacher to correct false finger or hand positions. But I play it how I learn it in the App and use straight the same fingers. Because I wanted to learn playing piano Sinne I was a child, I'm really motivated. But I can't pay a teacher. The App costs now 8€ per month for us all together, that is good for us. The piano was the only time to need much money, but I can realise it.
I practise a long time every day to get better and I see, how good it goes.
And also I watch many piano tutorials with lots of tipps. I study some piano-videos from good pianists.
At least, I'm happy so with this way. I live one of my childhood dreams. I only want to play for me and family and I think the App is good for this one. But I'm a Auto-didact my whole life, I think, not everyone can learn it in this way.
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for sharing your story Jette, I hope you keep improving!!
great video, I just subscribed with simple piano, it teaches me to read notes.....difficult but its not impossible
I have flowkey and have to admit I used it for a while but spend so much time on my books etc I just don’t use it.
Please recommend to me the best app for learning piano with the idea in mind that I want to learn to play classical piano...and/or a book that will guide me as well ..please 🙏..thank you very much for this
As far as technique, it is impossible on a keyboard. Please explain the enormous difference between keyboards and pianos.
thanks for this video :D
Any of these apps teach use the pedal? I have not seen one, and although not required at the beginning it is kind of nice to be exposed, and some songs sound way better.
I teach piano. Piano maestro is so awesome with young learners, but I would never recommend apps without a teacher. The apps are a nice addition, but also not every student likes them.
Absolutely no technique!!!!
Good for learning notes and enjoying music.
Thanks for sharing!
Hey Mel, I'm in my late sixties, and when I decided to learn piano and remembered dread formal music lessons, I looked for what apps kids got to make them find music fun. I did one year of piano maestro aged 65 without a teacher, and loved every minute of it! After that I switched to Simply Piano and breezed through to intermediate level. Now after 2.5 years I have finished their courses and I work every day on Simply Piano Play Beta songs. As an adult, I was able to balance my lack of a teacher with following just about every RUclips piano teacher I could.
@@robertYTB78g That's wonderful to hear! I teach group piano and online classes for all ages.
The only thing is technique. And, it is very common when I'm watching the simply piano group videos online. On a digital piano, this isn't a huge deal- but it is on a piano.
I'm the kind of teacher, though, who wants students to love music. So if you are enjoying, I am happy for you!!!
will you teach me online?
I am learning keyboard for 6 weeks. My teacher helps me a lot. Till date I am not feeling the need for an application. Let's see. I will keep in mind your tips.
Best of luck!
What is the process for learning Piano . Suggest any books sir
Adult all-in-one course (Alfred's basic adult piano course) seems to be very popular. look it up. loads on youtube about these books and progress videos too.
Where I live, it costs ~$400 per month for 1 hr lessons. That’s $4,800 a year. I don’t have that much money lying around. I could save for a month of lessons maybe twice a year but if piano apps didn’t exist, I would not even bother trying to learn. Music lessons are an extremely expensive hobby.
Try RUclips
Or try Melodics
I guess I need a tablet to use the app? My phone would be too small I presume?
Oh man im really crushed with these lmao i signed up a simply piano app few days ago and this vedio just destroyed the motivation vibes i been getting lol
This is a review for scoove and not about any other apps
Do you teach via on line like zoom or Skype by any chance like 1 to 1. I just found you and just in 3 videos I’ve learned so much wisdom love your teaching methods
Glad you're learning a lot. Currently, there are no piano lessons yet. Maybe in the future. Keep practising!