Organizations are free to decline the clause if they dont think its worth it, Its just part of negitiation and its for the organization to decide, idk what Brandon's yapping about
Players can’t ask for something they aren’t worth . You do realize how rare a no trade clause is lol Steph curry jokic embiid Gianni’s Luka don’t even have one
@@tcincali9642They don’t need to bring it up. Their level of play, value they bring to the team, and the fact that they win is a No Trade clause in itself. BJ was right, how are you going to ask for a better contract than Kawhi? Kawhi is a proven winner PG isn’t
@@teteualmeida00 yea they did. They let PG walk without getting anything in return. U confident they gonna be solid this year with that roster they have now ?
They missing the point. He was willing to take less and stay home. The no trade clause was so that they don’t trade him to somewhere like Utah. He was not willing to risk taking less and being sent to somewhere he didn’t want to be. Clippers showed their hand with the 1st offer. He saw how they valued him. If they valued him that low then they would trade him if the opportunity presented itself. PG is smart and you can’t hate on him for asking.
i fw this cause if the clippers felt how they say they felt they would’ve either matched what he asked for. They tryna talk down on PG who knew he could get what he was worth. How you mad he take 212 over 150? Like what😂😂
I get it bet on yourself. But every player can't make that argument. And PG13 went to 76ers and still no trade clause. So he could have got the money and stayed home. Not like he gained money by going there
point is: he got the money elsewhere and knew that he would get it. the clippers lost a star player. the notion that star players cant negotiate for perks like a non trade clause is ridiculous. any employee that is valuable for a company can put specifics in his contract. george ended up in a better situation - embiid, maxy, lowry and gordon are now on his team. by being a free agent he was able to go to a team that does not have to give up any pieces for him. people here are tripping if they blame him for doing what he did, they would 100% did the same in his situation - he has all the cards in his favour. they should have negotiated the contract when they had time to meet his demands not shortly before him becoming free agent. in my opinion failure of the management of the clippers.
When Gil talks money/contracts it shows why he made out smarter and better than some of these guys. All talented hoopers, but “it’s never about what you deserve, it’s about what you have the leverage to negotiate.” - Jalen Rose. Gil was a shrewd businessman 💰💰💰
Oh stop it. He was performing at a higher level than any of these recent players thinking they deserve a no trade clause today. He literally got hurt in his prime, in his mid -20s. His payout only looks disproportionate because he was basically out the league at 29 years old. no one saw that coming. if he remained in his prime, the amount they gave him actually slightly shortchanged him, even for back then, imo
Brandon's point sounds good but doesn't mean much. PG was willing to take less in exchange for some control. Gil is right, PG had the leverage, no team wants to see their 2nd best player leave for nothing.
@sofiuanebebert5192 u right but PG intensity towards the game is 🗑️🚮 he doesn't have we must win this game type of style of play....he plays too relax and honestly he don't want the ball 🏀 all the time
@@sofianebebert5192 it did hurt but letting him leave is way better than giving him NTC or 212mil. Letting him go opened up load of cap where we signed really good role players. It also put us under the 2nd apron which is really important
He really had the audacity to say, "We still have Kawhi, we cool" like the whole world doesn't know Kawhi is gonna play 23 games for the season....Stop it. 😂😂😂😂
@@lennyjohnson7068 you literally asked a question that had nothing to do with your point, you know I don’t even know your team so you’re just tryna argue. Know ball
@@Dopeiscam You would know my team if you knew who knocked em out the playoffs.... He played a few games more this season than he has been playing, but how many playoff games did he play?.... My point is he's injured when it matters most.
Hell yea his resume is better den pg and he’s a proven winner n pg has no room to speak he isn’t as consistent health wise either and his resume is not a proven winner plain and simple dats y kawhi da money and he took a pay cut too like cmon now and to ask for a no trade clause is disrespectful all im sayin is that Toronto team kawhi won wit in 2019 sub pg for kawhi now do u rlly think dey win the chip dat year IMO dey don’t make it out da second round
@@bdove2007that means nothing, because that was not for the clippers lol. You work at McDonald’s now, I don’t give a fuck about what you did at Wendy’s if you’re not doing the same thing here 😂😂
@@wellofvulturez615but didn't they say it's a what have you done for me lately thing. PG got them to the WCF Klaw did nothing for the Clippers yet right.
@@bhaysmithbssuch as casual take. PG literally only played 2 more games and didn’t get past the suns. Kawhi averaged more points and efficiency before he got injured. People act like Kawhi didn’t play in that Utah series at all and Mann didn’t drop near 40 on Gobert.
Exactly, they couldn't even get out of the first round against a mid team, why would anyone remember him that year? Kawhi carried the Raps to a chip that year, thats what people remember
@@Frank-mt2hf Exactly. Both Dame and PG are aging stars. Neither are good enough to be your 2nd best player at this stage of their careers, but people say max them out anyways
From a players perspective, Paul G did everything right from a negotiation perspective. He understood where he stood vs other top players in the league and went for his. From a team/owner perspective, the Clippers are currently in a worse perspective: 1) No winning team 2) Kahwi unfortunately can't play 60% of games 3) top players are heading to teams with better playoff wins. 4) they got nothing for it. NOTHING.
To have control over where you go is smart. The team could say no. If they don't it's a plus for the player. You don't know how long your career will be
@bluv5185 Brandon Jennings played after Gil. His mid-level contract could've been close to Gil's max in the early 2000s. He didn't make real bread until he went to Detroit.
They're both correct, but you have former players looking at it from an ownership perspective and getting mad at PG because he's not. Why should PG do what's best for ownership and screw himself in the process? Ownership locked up the guy they wanted in January and sent out crumbs to PG, thinking he would bite. All they did was piss him off and motivate him to close out strong. And where is Kawhi when we get to playoff time? Out of action...again. PG was there, though. If the Clippers weren't serious about keeping PG, they should have traded him and got something back. Now, they have to go the Build-A-Bear route to fill his spot. Ownership dropped the ball big time on this one.
@@NeilTruick that’s the thing they gave him fair market value for what he’s worth in 2024. Philly just was desperate and overpaid for an aging star who can’t stay healthy
If you are a player you have to see the benefit of the clause. If they are willing you have to to take it. They have to stop acting like they are owners
@@CamPerry can’t say Philly overpaid, that was his market value. He would’ve got the same deal from the Magic if he wanted it. Like always, the Clippers will Clip
@@fame4389u sound dum af his skill set is stamped y’all talking like he Jordan Poole with 1 really good year then got the bag Paul George as the number 1 option was pushing Lebron led heat to 6&7 games I understand u gotta mostly judge a guy off his current play but currently he one of the most elite 2 way players in the league and yall make it seem like he Tobias Harris quit dicc eating and poccet watching u niggas weird
So are we going to act like this organization didn’t tell Blake Griffin he was their future franchise player, got him under a lengthy contract, and then traded him? Can’t blame the man for not wanting to sign that contract with out a no trade
@@yallmustveforgotKD is a huge asset on any team that’s why he deserves that contract. Keep it 100, if Kd signed to Philly wouldn’t they be the favorites? If he signed to the lakers wouldn’t they be the favorites? If he signed to the mavericks? If he signed to OKC wouldn’t they look like a title contender? I’m just saying, KD is a superstar. He deserves that no trade clause on skill alone
I agree with Brandon players like Bradley Beal Paul George haven't won anything to be considered not tradable not to mention players like Grant and LaVine on these gigantic contracts where the teams can't move them because previous teams overpaid or Overpriced them out so it's basically dead money on the books
Gill just sound stupid most times. What’s the convo about BASKETBALL OR BUSINESS? Eff your brand if the team ain’t winning with you. That’s why the quality of the league is so lame today. You have pay lame cats all this money for mediocre performance and then it straps the team from being able to get better people in. Lakers going through that right now. And these guys got the nerve to say no trade clause.
But they’ve average way more than both Brandon and Rashad. these guys talking like they feelings got hurt they were not those guys. These guys are certified NBA benchwarmers. 5:48
@@justlulu9115remember you watch this show because they’re former nba players speaking on the nba. they’re in the club.. they’re closer to PG than you watching at home.
It's not about being against players protecting themselves. It's just speaking from the organization point of view. What's the point of overpaying PG to underachieve again?
@@Tone22845 because that organization believes that with the cast they assembled they have a better shot than without him. We see best players on trash teams get max deals the same way the top elite guys do.
Only in sports do they trick the workers into negotiating less for themselves. Yall think Elon musk isn’t negotiating the most money for himself against his board lol
Expectations for PG were always going to be high after the pacers went 7 against the Heat. We all know what PG is capable of, he just rarely does anything in the playoffs
No they aren't. They are simpletons lol. One of them called harden a 30ppg in this video when in reality harden and Westbrook both are close to being washed. They were acting like they're stepping up to replace their best player that's not missing every other week lol. Paul George leaving screwed up the clippers entire roster lmao. Broke down Kawhi harden and Westbrook aren't winning anything. They aren't winning with PG either, but why would you pay Kawhi without a number 2 in the first place lol. Nobody will give up any assets for Kawhi in a rebuild, they aren't signing anybody else, etc. Paul George had all the leverage and he used it to walk and get what he's asking for elsewhere and nuked the clips in the process.
Negotiate what’s best? That is literally everyone that accepts a job ever… Nobody ever takes a job they don’t agree with the terms of… If you do, that’s dumb.
@@Gus_inc dudes answering the question. pg dont deserve a no trade clause or that max. cool he got it, good for him but he shouldnt have? how is that hating.
@@jamesball5743 Last time Paul played 70 plus games was 5 years ago before this season, I don't understand why these injury prone players are getting max money, while reliable players get peanuts.
@@whoisskywalkeryou a casual Paul George has been carrying the Clippers kawhi has been injury prone the whole time and PG will be great as the third option on the 76ers
he was very bad in the bubble most nba fan remember that , he was bad in 2021 idk where epeople get he carried them for their first WCF? Kawhi avg 30 vs mavs and dropped 45 in game 6 and 38 in game 7 after being down 0-2 in first round in the second round kawhi avg 32 vs Utah and was 100% the reason why they came back 3-2 after clippers went down 0-2 once again kawhi got hurt in game 5 and played the whole game with a acl injury they won by 20 in game 6 Man Droped 41! Points , in the WCF Paul George missed 2 free throws to ice the game and go up 2-1 instead they lost in 6 , was hurt in 2022 , was hurt in 2023 and in 2024 with harden he played even worst then he did in the bubble , S/o to the clippers for letting him leave he was a disappointment , if you was a clippers fan you kinda of realized he turned into a shot chucker after his injuries past couple seasons he playing for contract not for a ring Lawrence obviously realized it and let him walk 🤙
An injured kawhi is better than pg in the playoffs that’s how horrible he is in big games. He doesn’t deserve half that contract he underperforms every year and people still thinks he’s elite😂
@@DontAdoreYouyou mean the same pg that won the clippers there first conference finals win? The same pg that has the highest point total for the clippers in the playoffs and minutes 😂😂 yall so hateful and baseless with the stuff yall say
He got the contract…so he was worth it. The no trade clause was so he doesn’t sign a LA friendly contract (his home) and then get shipped in year 2 or 3
@@devaughnvirgil2238 no only that, its making the organisation double-down on their own word. " you see me retiring as a Clipper? Show me in writing then." Thats all PG was saying.
@@jesusblanco7657no it sound like he pandering sound like he tryna get bacc closer to the league that’s what all these guys that wanna be involved with the league again do wether it’s playing tv deal commentating ect they pander and try and kiss up to owners and the league Brandon always saying some kiss ass shit he a corny and feminine
Clippers didn’t give their best player a no trade clause. Why In the hell would they give it to a self admitted number 2. Credits to Ballmer for not budging.
@@mrog45capa fake mental breakdown? You sound like those folks complaining about taxes to house criminals in jail. Shit don't affect you at all , but you are treating this as a travesty
what does a team effort have to do with how good someone is individually. A contract is based on what you do individually not what the team does. The fact i gotta break this down is sad. Paul George and Beal are both good basketball players that haven’t been in the best of situations
lol yea, but also a testament to how good Jennings was. He would have been more televised if not for being on those teams. One of Gil's backhanded complements lmao
It’s not really hating. I feel the same way from a Clippers fan perspective. What has PG done to garner 212 from the organization? He’s been injured just as much as Kawhi during playoff runs and confessed he was the number 2. His play was atrocious in the playoffs. What has he done to garner a NTC and a max?
There's only a handful of players that deserves a no trade clause. LeBron, Steph, Giannis, KD and that's about it. HOWEVER, if Bradley Beal can get a no-trade clause, let's not act like it's crazy to give PG one. He's not only a big name in the game, he generates A LOT of revenue on and off the court for any organisation that he plays for.
@@85CutDawg that actually doesn't mean he's smarter...Because you are a better basketball player you get paid more generally..You can say he's more business minded, but that is a horrible argument...If I'm sales guy and a company offers me 120k and the other guy was offered 150k base, that doesn't mean he's smarter lol...jordan and Pippen were underpaid for most of their career while other players made more because of the long-term NBA deal they signed.
@@micahbinns2740 those contracts he had weren’t just given to him he had to negotiate. Did him being a great player help with that ? Clearly, but in the context of what they’re debating in the video, Gil is indeed smarter than both of them.
Brandon so emotional throwing a fit over another mans business. He is so upset pouting and looking the other way LOL. Paul george is laughing at this video all the way to the bank.
@@justlulu9115Jennings was dope before injuries derailed him. Dude scored 55 in like his 7th game as a rookie. Didn’t even score until the second quarter of that game.
@@jasonjones8938 and? What does that mean? Let’s use his logic what did he win? Did he ever contribute to a team success. No! I’m not blaming him for injuries but come on he talking like he was a better player than PG, let’s not forget PG had a gruesome injury himself. So I don’t understand the hate PG ain’t LeBron but imo he’s better right now than k12.
@@MrWealthyStealthyhad nothing to do with his worth. It has more to do with the sixers being desperate. Sixers no joel dont have long on that knee. They trying to win now. Sixers really wanted bridges to be honest but he wanted to join up with his nova boys.
@@bobbymatthews3878 nope, Luka is horrible on defense and he's a superstar...JT to me besides have a ton of help if you put him on most average teams they don't move the needle as much as some ppl think.
Brandon is right. The Clippers didn't see value in PG at 4 years 212 and were willing to let him walk, which means that PG didn't have the leverage he thought he had.
Pg dad fav player is Dr. J… for his dad to meet him at the comforts of his own home.. to watch him tell his son paul george they need him to win in philly is priceless… then the 212M is just icing on the cake
Clippers had Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, James Harden, Russell Westbrook. If that team couldn't win I'm convinced that franchise is truly cursed. 🤷🏽♂️
There’s 1 basketball plus Westbrook was forced to come off the bench once they got harden. Kawhi was out the last month of the season and fucked up the team’s rhythm once he tried to comeback in the playoffs it’s still basketball not 2k
He just wanted insurance after they said they wanted him to be there for life. Gimme 4 years or a no trade to prove it. If not I’m out. They low balled him during the season also. They were leaning g on him staying cuz he’s home.
Thing yall missing is the clippers said “we want you to be a clipper for life.. end your career here… “ so what’s the problem with a no trade clause . Or was they just telling lies
PG said Clippers want him to retire there and offered him that 3 year deal so he said he’ll take the deal for less but give me the no trade clause they said no so he said ill take the same deal as Kawhi so if you do trade me I at least got my money they still said no so PG went to the open market. Basically PG called their bluff you want me to retire here then prove it and Clippers folded
Thank you! Brandon just be saying shit, it’s not about the superstar status, it’s Clippers trying to sugarcoat “we want you retire as a clipper” but not willing to take accountability
Exactly . That’s party they missing . It dnt matter wether he’s worth the contract or not the clippers said they wanted pg to retire a clipper. Told he’s essential and they view him the same way they view kawhi. . So him asking for the no trade clause shouldn’t have been issue . Clippers were talking out there ass fr nd fcked up Cuz now they lost him For nothing
Another reason Brandon is wrong af is the fact that he did get the money some where else… some body thought PG was a superstar cuz he getting that money 🤔
So what ? Clippers have said to PG that he is an essential part of their future and they want him to retire there . Considering that he is a valuable scorer an had to carry a team because Kawhi was never there and a possibility that Kawhi will play in the next playoffs is low for two reasons . It's not a guarantee anymore that the clippers will get the playoffs , for that to happen Kawhi will need to play almost all of the games and also be more productive than before to fill the void of Paul George . And if he will do that , than comes the second reason , he probably will not be healthy for the playoffs and the whole team will basically be James Harden. So in Paul Georges train of thought he is like , if what you say is true , than put in on the paper , promise that you will not trade me. They didn't give it to him . You say that you wouldn't give to him too , but as you see , all of a sudden PG is not on your team
@@kkk-y5i as a fanbase if you aren’t the franchise player you aren’t getting a no trade clause plain and simple. PG not better than Kawhi and he didn’t even get it
Bruh the team said they want him to retire there, so he pulled up and said put it in written. Nothing wrong with getting an organisation to double-down on their OWN word. And if they couldn't thry needed to just pass him more money, nothing wrong with that.
@Philly-zo2xn Yeah, I mean I get it. PG is on the backend of his career so why not take all the money that you can get? After he retires bro still has to upkeep that lifestyle so once it looked at it from that prospective I understood why he pushed the needle.
Sometimes Brandon and Rashad talk like they fckin Hall of Famers. Just chill yall was ight!! NO All star appearances or All NBA teams between the two of them combined
@@wesbesttreacts4515 it makes no sense to let Paul George walk and go into a season with washed harden and walking injury Kawhi as your only two star players lmao. Paying both of them is insanely stupid without resigning Paul George. They also have no draft picks because they traded them all for Paul George. Balmer screwed his team and now he's stuck with two guys will be lucky to carry that team to the play in game. And because of the cap rules, they can't resign anybody with the money they saved from not signing PG lmao. There is no way to spin this into anything positive by the clippers. It is poor asset management. They wasted money on Kawhi and Harden based on the idea that they were bringing back George. If they knew PG was walking, then they wouldn't have resigned Kawhi and Harden and would have started an actual rebuild. George leaving is a chain reaction that screws them for years lol.
@@joshmanuel3773 you’re not making any sense, like you said, the clippers have no draft picks so how exactly would they rebuild the team? By signing Kawhi and Harden they are actually in a better position to both contend or rebuild as they at least have the option to trade them for draft stock. Nobody is saying George walking for nothing is a positive thing but the clippers didn’t want to max out a 34 year old 3rd option and I don’t blame them
The no trade clause is negotiated because Clippers wanted George to take less money. It makes no sense for the team to offer less money than market price + capable of trading him anywhere, that's absurd. You either pay a price or compensate it somehow. No trade clause is Clippers compensation for not giving that extra year, 50 million or so that George wanted. Have you ever in been negotiation position? Has to be win-win.
I don’t understand how former players are mad at current players conducting business and using their agents and leverage to have better situations in these contracts?! Just feels like bitterness & hating honestly cuz players are getting higher paid and better situational contracts than they ever negotiated in their careers. SMH
He's not cooking. He sounds crazy. Of course PG should have asked for a no trade clause. You can't get anything if you don't ask for it first. Why would I automatically undervalue myself.
@@stevenedwards891nah. PG didn’t want 2 years 60 mil that was a slap in the face. Clippers wanted him to fold but it blew up in their face because Philadelphia had a max slot! Simple of that
@@getdown7799what are they lying about? I’m 100% sure if they had leverage they’d use it. The owners make billions a year. Why wouldn’t they negotiate?
Mane thus pisses me off I watched very clippers game this season kawhi was the most reliable player , Paul George was so horrible in 75% of regular season games , kawhi was the best clippers player this season and played 70 games he missed the last 3 weeks of regular season to injury
Agreeing to a No Trade Clause (NTC) gives up a ton of leverage for owners. If the player starts slaking off after the 1st year they can't tell him to fix up or he's getting traded, so players can just take it easy knowing they can't get traded & are making a bag. But as a player, u want a say on where u get traded 100% & the NTC allows that. The 1st offer $60m for 2 years made Paul George not trust the owners & could be a sign they don' respect him & could trade him at anytime so he wanted that NTC
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B Jennings and Gil are both right BJ speaking from owners prospective and gils is speaking on a players prospective
Organizations are free to decline the clause if they dont think its worth it, Its just part of negitiation and its for the organization to decide, idk what Brandon's yapping about
Gil being stupid...george asked for better deal than kawhi. Gil never support #2 ask more #1
Players can’t ask for something they aren’t worth . You do realize how rare a no trade clause is lol Steph curry jokic embiid Gianni’s Luka don’t even have one
@@secondchance5080 did they ask for one? If not bringing them up makes no sense
@@tcincali9642They don’t need to bring it up. Their level of play, value they bring to the team, and the fact that they win is a No Trade clause in itself.
BJ was right, how are you going to ask for a better contract than Kawhi? Kawhi is a proven winner PG isn’t
Brandon was in his bag today, and i liked it
Lol yea i don’t usually agree with bro but he was right on this one tho
No tf he wasn’t he was dead wrong
No Brandon is a damn fool
Naah Brandon is correct
@@sandtownlos05he was right. Paul George not bringing in no ring
Mccants love when he got somebody on his side 😂
Isn't it obvious
And he is using that to have a support on his "own" non-sense POV of things. An all time hater
his arguments be SO weak lol
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@@diosethirteen he aint a hater all the time. Also you need a McCants on a show or it’s just boring.
The fact that Beal has a no trade clause is INSANE 😂😂😂😂😂
He got it from Washington…it makes perfect sense. They were desperate to keep a someone.
the fact that they think Beal is better than George show how much they hating
Based off of the stats he had not have. He got over
It Washington what do you expect...They have 2 stooges in this season Kuzma and Poole...They are more like a circus than Basketball team
Sun's are F@cked
I was always told "a closed mouth don't get fed." Or " ask for something the worse they can say is NO."
Facts
Bingo
They said no
@@wryantwickliffe1951 Big facts
@@mattturner5750 and he still got what he wanted and is on a better team.
“You are what you negotiate.”- John Salley 😂😂😂
Exactly bro. Super clever business move lol clips once again took a L and got none for letting him walk
Facts
Dude. These guys do nothing but yell over each other and not listen to the other's argument. Just agree whats on their mind and nothing else matter's
@@Scoot4548 Clippers didn't took any L
@@teteualmeida00 yea they did. They let PG walk without getting anything in return. U confident they gonna be solid this year with that roster they have now ?
They missing the point. He was willing to take less and stay home. The no trade clause was so that they don’t trade him to somewhere like Utah. He was not willing to risk taking less and being sent to somewhere he didn’t want to be.
Clippers showed their hand with the 1st offer. He saw how they valued him. If they valued him that low then they would trade him if the opportunity presented itself. PG is smart and you can’t hate on him for asking.
i fw this
cause if the clippers felt how they say they felt they would’ve either matched what he asked for. They tryna talk down on PG who knew he could get what he was worth. How you mad he take 212 over 150? Like what😂😂
head of the class....all these "podcasters" do is talk sh...
FACTS
They didn’t even watch Paul George explain himself they just going off the headline 😂
Facts.
100 percent with Gil on this. Don't ask a grown man to negotiate against himself. The person who signs the checks will never do that, ever.
The team was pretty firm with their offer. You want them to negotiate against themselves?
But it’s not reality besides Bradley Beal which wizards were desperate every other player who got a no trade clause was a certified superstar
I get it bet on yourself. But every player can't make that argument. And PG13 went to 76ers and still no trade clause. So he could have got the money and stayed home. Not like he gained money by going there
point is: he got the money elsewhere and knew that he would get it. the clippers lost a star player. the notion that star players cant negotiate for perks like a non trade clause is ridiculous. any employee that is valuable for a company can put specifics in his contract. george ended up in a better situation - embiid, maxy, lowry and gordon are now on his team. by being a free agent he was able to go to a team that does not have to give up any pieces for him. people here are tripping if they blame him for doing what he did, they would 100% did the same in his situation - he has all the cards in his favour. they should have negotiated the contract when they had time to meet his demands not shortly before him becoming free agent. in my opinion failure of the management of the clippers.
@checkanr138 he wanted to stay in LA. Clearly he didn't have the leverage to get what he wanted from them. They will be fine without him.
When Gil talks money/contracts it shows why he made out smarter and better than some of these guys. All talented hoopers, but “it’s never about what you deserve, it’s about what you have the leverage to negotiate.” - Jalen Rose. Gil was a shrewd businessman 💰💰💰
He was but these guys are looking at it from a team perspective and they aren't wrong
@@mysteriouscipher5445ya but from an owners perspective for how much they gave up for pg to get nothing back hurts your future even more
Exactly these mfs is why players retire broke. Dumb as shit@@kenneth9338
Palmdaliens be on some bullshit. Shrewd my a$$
Oh stop it. He was performing at a higher level than any of these recent players thinking they deserve a no trade clause today. He literally got hurt in his prime, in his mid -20s. His payout only looks disproportionate because he was basically out the league at 29 years old. no one saw that coming. if he remained in his prime, the amount they gave him actually slightly shortchanged him, even for back then, imo
When they named the players who asked for No Trade Clause up until Beals name, thats when the argument was clearly over 😂
Facts 😂😂
Brandon's point sounds good but doesn't mean much. PG was willing to take less in exchange for some control.
Gil is right, PG had the leverage, no team wants to see their 2nd best player leave for nothing.
@sofiuanebebert5192 u right but PG intensity towards the game is 🗑️🚮 he doesn't have we must win this game type of style of play....he plays too relax and honestly he don't want the ball 🏀 all the time
@@sofianebebert5192 it did hurt but letting him leave is way better than giving him NTC or 212mil. Letting him go opened up load of cap where we signed really good role players. It also put us under the 2nd apron which is really important
@@sofianebebert5192 he is not worth that big contract.sixers are dumb
Brandon Jennings always argues looking at the floor 😂
That shows his confidence
Insecure
He obviously has an issue with eye contact. I know ppl like that. They look everywhere but your eyes when talking/debating.
And folding his arms 😂😂😂
Cuz he know he’s hating. Nigga don’t know who pg is obviously Nike not giving you 5+ signatures
Shoes if u ai t that guy
He really had the audacity to say, "We still have Kawhi, we cool" like the whole world doesn't know Kawhi is gonna play 23 games for the season....Stop it. 😂😂😂😂
Look up how many games he played last season
How many playoff games did he play when my team knocked em off?
@@lennyjohnson7068 you literally asked a question that had nothing to do with your point, you know I don’t even know your team so you’re just tryna argue. Know ball
@@Dopeiscam You would know my team if you knew who knocked em out the playoffs.... He played a few games more this season than he has been playing, but how many playoff games did he play?.... My point is he's injured when it matters most.
Bra dropped out the Olympics already 😂
Did they say Kawhi is more safe than Paul George? Kawhi hasn't been able to finish a postseason since Toronto.
But no matter what he’s been the three finals with two finals MVPs he knows what it takes to win
Hell yea his resume is better den pg and he’s a proven winner n pg has no room to speak he isn’t as consistent health wise either and his resume is not a proven winner plain and simple dats y kawhi da money and he took a pay cut too like cmon now and to ask for a no trade clause is disrespectful all im sayin is that Toronto team kawhi won wit in 2019 sub pg for kawhi now do u rlly think dey win the chip dat year IMO dey don’t make it out da second round
@@bdove2007that means nothing, because that was not for the clippers lol. You work at McDonald’s now, I don’t give a fuck about what you did at Wendy’s if you’re not doing the same thing here 😂😂
@@wellofvulturez615but didn't they say it's a what have you done for me lately thing. PG got them to the WCF Klaw did nothing for the Clippers yet right.
@@bhaysmithbssuch as casual take. PG literally only played 2 more games and didn’t get past the suns. Kawhi averaged more points and efficiency before he got injured. People act like Kawhi didn’t play in that Utah series at all and Mann didn’t drop near 40 on Gobert.
No one remembers OKC PG because he was getting clamped by Joe Ingles and getting waved bye bye by Damian Lillard
Exactly, they couldn't even get out of the first round against a mid team, why would anyone remember him that year? Kawhi carried the Raps to a chip that year, thats what people remember
He was not the problem in okc. PG was killing it all year round and almost won defensive player of the year
Y’all bringing up dame like he that guy😂 he in the same boat as pg
that was a bad shot tho !
@@Frank-mt2hf Exactly. Both Dame and PG are aging stars. Neither are good enough to be your 2nd best player at this stage of their careers, but people say max them out anyways
“Is Paul George a Sagittarius “ Brandon Jennings killing me 😂
He Taurus there stubborn hardworking and humble also great businessman
I don’t get it
No bap
Saggitarius is the best sign of the zodiac, we run the world...
@@nellyville69I’m one
From a players perspective, Paul G did everything right from a negotiation perspective. He understood where he stood vs other top players in the league and went for his. From a team/owner perspective, the Clippers are currently in a worse perspective: 1) No winning team 2) Kahwi unfortunately can't play 60% of games 3) top players are heading to teams with better playoff wins. 4) they got nothing for it. NOTHING.
You take a $62 million pay cut, and one year later you playing for the pistons and have no leverage to get that money back? Yall buggin.
2:18 Brandon crossed his arms like birdman in that breakfast club interview 🤣🤣
All 🌳 of y’all
This convo on “contracts” show why Gil the only one who got the bag 😂💯
No it doesn’t
No it doesn’t. He was just the best player outta these 3 😂
@@wholelottaanime2408he smarter then the other 2
To have control over where you go is smart. The team could say no. If they don't it's a plus for the player. You don't know how long your career will be
@bluv5185 Brandon Jennings played after Gil. His mid-level contract could've been close to Gil's max in the early 2000s.
He didn't make real bread until he went to Detroit.
That's the most animated I ever seen Brandon Jennings😂
its kinda rare but this is an arguement where both side are correct
They're both correct, but you have former players looking at it from an ownership perspective and getting mad at PG because he's not. Why should PG do what's best for ownership and screw himself in the process? Ownership locked up the guy they wanted in January and sent out crumbs to PG, thinking he would bite. All they did was piss him off and motivate him to close out strong. And where is Kawhi when we get to playoff time? Out of action...again. PG was there, though. If the Clippers weren't serious about keeping PG, they should have traded him and got something back. Now, they have to go the Build-A-Bear route to fill his spot. Ownership dropped the ball big time on this one.
@@NeilTruick that’s the thing they gave him fair market value for what he’s worth in 2024. Philly just was desperate and overpaid for an aging star who can’t stay healthy
If you are a player you have to see the benefit of the clause. If they are willing you have to to take it. They have to stop acting like they are owners
@@CamPerry can’t say Philly overpaid, that was his market value. He would’ve got the same deal from the Magic if he wanted it.
Like always, the Clippers will Clip
Facts
They Hating ask Brandon how he Feel about Donavan Mitchell getting a MAX DEAL 😂
😂😂😂 aw man
They not hating they speaking facts Paul was not worth that money as a player he want move the needle for the 76ers to win
@@fame4389so he is because they had to give it to him…. And if it was the sixers they would have been more team…
@@fame4389u sound dum af his skill set is stamped y’all talking like he Jordan Poole with 1 really good year then got the bag Paul George as the number 1 option was pushing Lebron led heat to 6&7 games I understand u gotta mostly judge a guy off his current play but currently he one of the most elite 2 way players in the league and yall make it seem like he Tobias Harris quit dicc eating and poccet watching u niggas weird
@@fame4389 get a life
So are we going to act like this organization didn’t tell Blake Griffin he was their future franchise player, got him under a lengthy contract, and then traded him? Can’t blame the man for not wanting to sign that contract with out a no trade
It’s a business bro, trades can happen at any time. The only players who deserves a no-trade is Curry, KD and LeBron.
@@hendrikdalnoot1989 Forget KD. He couldn't win without Steph. I'd say Giannis and Jokic before KD
Blake was punching trainers and being a douche to the staff. He was about about Hollywood, not basketball.
Best thing they did, because his game dropped off after that. He actually won with that contract. Pay me then trade me.
@@yallmustveforgotKD is a huge asset on any team that’s why he deserves that contract.
Keep it 100, if Kd signed to Philly wouldn’t they be the favorites?
If he signed to the lakers wouldn’t they be the favorites?
If he signed to the mavericks?
If he signed to OKC wouldn’t they look like a title contender?
I’m just saying, KD is a superstar.
He deserves that no trade clause on skill alone
A no-trade clause for a borderline third-team and barely an all star is crazy
How are you a borderline All Star? You either an All Star or you're not
He is saying some years in the past he was, last year he wasn't ....
Brandon got beef with PG. This has got to be the most animated I’ve ever seen him on this pod. He was at 20!!!😂😂
More like jealousy😂
@@jenolez1143💯
@@jenolez1143there is no jealousy he just speaking facts Paul George not on that level to be asking for a No Trade clause
@@maisonmargielademon2915 thats why Pg is where he is and the rest of you will remain where u are🤣🤣
he always like that he feel like he always right
Paul “That’s a bad shot” George 😂😂😅😅😅
Pandemic Podcast P
Wayoff P
They think it’s basketball. It’s BUSINESS!!!!! Gil is right!
It's business that's why the team did not give him the money.. duh 😂
Gil is an horse's arse
He would have been right if he wasn't talking about a guy who gets injured getting up out of bed in the morning
@@bronxbomerpito7286 Literally just played 74 games which is over 90%
No they right they don't give a fuck about PG it shows
McCants said “I got the ball, y’all get it off the glass.” 😂😂😂
Kobe said that first... Lol
PG got 212 Mil to be a 3rd option in Philly!
Saw the Tobias Harris playbook n ran to it
@@c7leeComparing PG to Harrison is wild. They are literally way better by just replacing Tobias with PG. Also PG has nights where he's the guy.
@@c7leePaul George a 100 times better then Tobias
Second
Podcasting in philly when celts destroy wont go well
I agree with Brandon players like Bradley Beal Paul George haven't won anything to be considered not tradable not to mention players like Grant and LaVine on these gigantic contracts where the teams can't move them because previous teams overpaid or Overpriced them out so it's basically dead money on the books
Exactly
Gill just sound stupid most times. What’s the convo about BASKETBALL OR BUSINESS? Eff your brand if the team ain’t winning with you. That’s why the quality of the league is so lame today. You have pay lame cats all this money for mediocre performance and then it straps the team from being able to get better people in. Lakers going through that right now. And these guys got the nerve to say no trade clause.
But they’ve average way more than both Brandon and Rashad. these guys talking like they feelings got hurt they were not those guys. These guys are certified NBA benchwarmers. 5:48
@@justlulu9115remember you watch this show because they’re former nba players speaking on the nba. they’re in the club.. they’re closer to PG than you watching at home.
It makes sense for Beal to have a no trade clause considering he got that from the team who drafted him and played on for a long time but PG no
Players being against players protecting themselves is crazy they system is working perfectly for these owners
It's not about being against players protecting themselves. It's just speaking from the organization point of view. What's the point of overpaying PG to underachieve again?
@@Tone22845 because that organization believes that with the cast they assembled they have a better shot than without him. We see best players on trash teams get max deals the same way the top elite guys do.
Exactly. Jennings and McCants are still slaves mentally and Arenas is A Freeman.
BINGO!!!!
Only in sports do they trick the workers into negotiating less for themselves. Yall think Elon musk isn’t negotiating the most money for himself against his board
lol
We're 4 months later and it gets more fun to watch this discussion!
PG ain’t that pacers PG. it’s simple. No shade
Thunder PG was better
It don't matter wat team he on that PG..🤷🏿♂️ better than 75 percent of the league regardless of what position or am I trippin?
He was better in 2021 than Indy casual 😂
Expectations for PG were always going to be high after the pacers went 7 against the Heat. We all know what PG is capable of, he just rarely does anything in the playoffs
Thunder PG was better
Gil speaking as a player and MacCants and Jennings talking as a team GM lol
What do they know about being a GM?
@@zingisamahlaselathey don’t know nothing bc letting pg walk for nothing was a horrible decision
No they aren't. They are simpletons lol.
One of them called harden a 30ppg in this video when in reality harden and Westbrook both are close to being washed. They were acting like they're stepping up to replace their best player that's not missing every other week lol.
Paul George leaving screwed up the clippers entire roster lmao. Broke down Kawhi harden and Westbrook aren't winning anything. They aren't winning with PG either, but why would you pay Kawhi without a number 2 in the first place lol. Nobody will give up any assets for Kawhi in a rebuild, they aren't signing anybody else, etc. Paul George had all the leverage and he used it to walk and get what he's asking for elsewhere and nuked the clips in the process.
@@kenneth9338 no it’s not they was overloaded anyways .. Pg is out his prime
@@TheKookExperimentkawhi, James harden, and Russ not?
It's quite obvious Arenas NEVER played for championships. He's what the mentality in sports is today. SMH
It's a business. Gil is speaking about the business....
Negotiate what’s best? That is literally everyone that accepts a job ever… Nobody ever takes a job they don’t agree with the terms of… If you do, that’s dumb.
@@qfrizell816 If that's his sole motivation, I wouldn't have wanted him on my team. You handle your business on court/field, it'll come.
@@BIGPaul-f5k carrying the team when kawhi was injured wasnt handling himself? u people pathetic
@@BIGPaul-f5kunless you blow your hip out like Isaiah Thomas. He played and never got the pay day🤷🏾♂️
Overpaid is overpaid. Fans and supporters lose when an overpaid player cashes a check after every loss.
Calling somebody stupid who just signed a max deal is WILD.
These two look like jealous fools in this clip.
💯
Literally, they don't understand market value. Brandon making an emotional argument and not fact based.
@@Gus_incyou're a bozo bih
@@Gus_inc dudes answering the question. pg dont deserve a no trade clause or that max. cool he got it, good for him but he shouldnt have? how is that hating.
PG is not a MAX player anymore and he's 34
NBA teams are giving many payers max contracts that don't deserve it
But kawhi is ?
@@jamesball5743 Last time Paul played 70 plus games was 5 years ago before this season, I don't understand why these injury prone players are getting max money, while reliable players get peanuts.
@@tytheflyguy8383 No, he's not. I didn't say he was. But 23/4/5 is not MAX money and choking in playoffs too. Heck no.
@@whoisskywalkeryou a casual Paul George has been carrying the Clippers kawhi has been injury prone the whole time and PG will be great as the third option on the 76ers
Pg produced more than anyone traded to the clippers in the last five years and that's been five all stars
he was very bad in the bubble most nba fan remember that , he was bad in 2021 idk where epeople get he carried them for their first WCF? Kawhi avg 30 vs mavs and dropped 45 in game 6 and 38 in game 7 after being down 0-2 in first round in the second round kawhi avg 32 vs Utah and was 100% the reason why they came back 3-2 after clippers went down 0-2 once again kawhi got hurt in game 5 and played the whole game with a acl injury they won by 20 in game 6 Man Droped 41! Points , in the WCF Paul George missed 2 free throws to ice the game and go up 2-1 instead they lost in 6 , was hurt in 2022 , was hurt in 2023 and in 2024 with harden he played even worst then he did in the bubble , S/o to the clippers for letting him leave he was a disappointment , if you was a clippers fan you kinda of realized he turned into a shot chucker after his injuries past couple seasons he playing for contract not for a ring Lawrence obviously realized it and let him walk 🤙
And done nothing in the playoffs. The new bargaining agreement will force teams to really value players instead of giving them max contracts
@@treztyles6830 In the reg season maybe but hes been pretty poor in the playoffs plus he misses so many games. Thats a bad combo
An injured kawhi is better than pg in the playoffs that’s how horrible he is in big games. He doesn’t deserve half that contract he underperforms every year and people still thinks he’s elite😂
@@DontAdoreYouyou mean the same pg that won the clippers there first conference finals win? The same pg that has the highest point total for the clippers in the playoffs and minutes 😂😂 yall so hateful and baseless with the stuff yall say
Yall need to revisit this conversation 😂😂
He got the contract…so he was worth it. The no trade clause was so he doesn’t sign a LA friendly contract (his home) and then get shipped in year 2 or 3
Smart Move by Paul George!!!
That's what these 2 fools ignoring...PG was looking out for his interest how can u hate on that
@@devaughnvirgil2238 no only that, its making the organisation double-down on their own word. " you see me retiring as a Clipper? Show me in writing then." Thats all PG was saying.
which most likely is what they would have done....good job pg for standing your ground
He got it in Philly... Not LA. Does that matter at all? Only PG can answer that
Brandon is the type of player to let the owners do whatever they want to him then look confused when they do smh
So true
Lmaoo ong
Sounds to me he understand the business
@@jesusblanco7657no it sound like he pandering sound like he tryna get bacc closer to the league that’s what all these guys that wanna be involved with the league again do wether it’s playing tv deal commentating ect they pander and try and kiss up to owners and the league Brandon always saying some kiss ass shit he a corny and feminine
That part
Clippers didn’t give their best player a no trade clause. Why In the hell would they give it to a self admitted number 2. Credits to Ballmer for not budging.
Balmer stood by him and gave him a contract after his fake mental breakdown in the bubble when he was pandemic P
Clippers here. It was just PG mannerism. He was carrying the clips many night with Kawhi constant absence.
@@mrog45capa fake mental breakdown? You sound like those folks complaining about taxes to house criminals in jail. Shit don't affect you at all , but you are treating this as a travesty
@@lovepeace_goodvibezbut also folded many nights when kawhi wasn’t there no offense to pg he is still my favorite player but we gotta be real
@cgwg133 no he was very efficient most nighra Had some off nights like any other player
Guess we won’t see Brandon on Podcast P anytime soon.
Bradley Beal and PG on that list is absurd as fuck they never won shit
Mello & john either
At least pg lead a team to his conference finals. He lost to lebron. Beal ? Oh they smokin dope
what does a team effort have to do with how good someone is individually. A contract is based on what you do individually not what the team does. The fact i gotta break this down is sad. Paul George and Beal are both good basketball players that haven’t been in the best of situations
@@oodlesnnoodles8670bro we ain’t bringing up shit that happened 10 years ago a conference finals don’t mean shit bruh
And will never win shit
"to Milwaukee.. or Detroit" 😬 Gil sending shots directly at Brandon 🤣🤣🤣
so good....lol
lol yea, but also a testament to how good Jennings was. He would have been more televised if not for being on those teams. One of Gil's backhanded complements lmao
Pettiness
Meanwhile Gil played in Memphis and Orlando
@@TrentonJohnsonJr-ip9zh No State sales tax!
Kawhi is a 2x NBA champion why would Paul George get what he gets "MOVE TF AROUND"
He contributed more for that toronto ring than that in texas lol why people forget spurs didn´t wanted him longer..
Somebody that used to be a player actually hating on a current player with leverage, hatin.
It’s not really hating. I feel the same way from a Clippers fan perspective. What has PG done to garner 212 from the organization? He’s been injured just as much as Kawhi during playoff runs and confessed he was the number 2. His play was atrocious in the playoffs. What has he done to garner a NTC and a max?
New generation calling any type of criticism hating is hilarious. BJ just saying what other media members are scared to say
It is hating. He Paul George has leverage and he did the smart thing and used it
Sensitive ass people think everything is hating
This is insanity
Why is Brandon arguing on the organization behalf??? The Clippers no less who did Blake dirty???
Exactly, it's irrational to argue for a position he's never been in (as a owner. I'll never side with my boss)
Because he's talking about what is fair
@@jamesjack7074 Fair? He's a millionaire arguing on behalf of Billionaires. It's an insane argument
@Temid26 why are yall arguing on behalf of millionaires?
@@talianun3259 it's real simple, I always believe the people who do the work should get paid the most
There's only a handful of players that deserves a no trade clause. LeBron, Steph, Giannis, KD and that's about it. HOWEVER, if Bradley Beal can get a no-trade clause, let's not act like it's crazy to give PG one. He's not only a big name in the game, he generates A LOT of revenue on and off the court for any organisation that he plays for.
That’s a good point 🤔
@@11bornrich yea think the issue is the no trade clause more than the contract itself. Would throw Wemby in there too whenever his next deal is up
KD isn't on the list. Maybe in 2017 when he was on the Warriors but you'd trade KD today for a younger player or a haul of picks.
Beal got that no trade clause in the prime of his career leading the league in scoring. PG is not that rn
KD does NOT deserve a no-trade clause. He's done nothing since winning with the Warriors superteam
Ever since people started labeling themselves a "brand" everything has sucked
When Gilbert starts realizing he’s losing the debate his go to is to ask questions that have nothing to do with the original question lol
he could never lose any debate...he's the smartest out of all of them
@@wadepeters7373 he is not clearly
@@M.Đ-z4u He’s made more money and had a better career than both Jennings and McCants. But he’s not smarter ? Yeah, okay.
@@85CutDawg that actually doesn't mean he's smarter...Because you are a better basketball player you get paid more generally..You can say he's more business minded, but that is a horrible argument...If I'm sales guy and a company offers me 120k and the other guy was offered 150k base, that doesn't mean he's smarter lol...jordan and Pippen were underpaid for most of their career while other players made more because of the long-term NBA deal they signed.
@@micahbinns2740 those contracts he had weren’t just given to him he had to negotiate. Did him being a great player help with that ? Clearly, but in the context of what they’re debating in the video, Gil is indeed smarter than both of them.
pg getting the max in philly to be a 3rd option. if they lose, embiid still gonna get the most blame. smart move
Brandon so emotional throwing a fit over another mans business. He is so upset pouting and looking the other way LOL. Paul george is laughing at this video all the way to the bank.
Emotional like a woman
Because he couldn’t dream of that much money with the way he played dude was never that dude just a backup like wtf are we talking about!
@@justlulu9115Jennings was dope before injuries derailed him. Dude scored 55 in like his 7th game as a rookie. Didn’t even score until the second quarter of that game.
Yeah it seems like he’s hating even though Bj was cold 🥶
@@jasonjones8938 and? What does that mean? Let’s use his logic what did he win? Did he ever contribute to a team success. No! I’m not blaming him for injuries but come on he talking like he was a better player than PG, let’s not forget PG had a gruesome injury himself. So I don’t understand the hate PG ain’t LeBron but imo he’s better right now than k12.
This has aged the opposite of fine wine
This is peak level pocket watching lol
He watching his pocket hard and thts the real disappointment u never talk about a man’s money
Like Brandon said “Who do these players think they are?” Pg act like he been out there playing like SGA
….. He knows his worth , let a woman say she know her worth you agreeing
SGA hasn't pulled in as much revenue as PG13 respectfully.
Brooo, SGA stat pads 😂😂😂
@@MrWealthyStealthyhad nothing to do with his worth. It has more to do with the sixers being desperate. Sixers no joel dont have long on that knee. They trying to win now. Sixers really wanted bridges to be honest but he wanted to join up with his nova boys.
@@Tone213xhow?
We need an episode for Stars vs Superstars, list em, define the differences
To me I think a star is all offense and super star is an elite offense and defense player that’s me tho
@@bobbymatthews3878u right on the money 💰
@@bobbymatthews3878 nope, Luka is horrible on defense and he's a superstar...JT to me besides have a ton of help if you put him on most average teams they don't move the needle as much as some ppl think.
Great topic
Brandon is right. The Clippers didn't see value in PG at 4 years 212 and were willing to let him walk, which means that PG didn't have the leverage he thought he had.
Pg dad fav player is Dr. J… for his dad to meet him at the comforts of his own home.. to watch him tell his son paul george they need him to win in philly is priceless… then the 212M is just icing on the cake
LOVE IT
FACTS BROO
@27:30 “You already cool with being number 2 so you can be number 3” 😂 Brandon
Hard
Did he say we got Kawhi? He do realize Kawhi gone be hurt most of the games 😂
Rashad jus be saying shit in the moment 🤣🤣
Hurt just like pandemic P
ASK period! Worst they can say is no!
Clippers had Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, James Harden, Russell Westbrook. If that team couldn't win I'm convinced that franchise is truly cursed. 🤷🏽♂️
Did those 4 play a post season while all being healthy?
It’s the young man’s game now tbh
@@colllllllland? Staying healthy is part of the game. 2 of the 4 or 3 of 4 on the court at the same time should have done better than they did.
There’s 1 basketball plus Westbrook was forced to come off the bench once they got harden. Kawhi was out the last month of the season and fucked up the team’s rhythm once he tried to comeback in the playoffs it’s still basketball not 2k
@@collllllll Hence, cursed
PG hasn't done anything to justify a no trade clause.
He just wanted insurance after they said they wanted him to be there for life. Gimme 4 years or a no trade to prove it. If not I’m out. They low balled him during the season also. They were leaning g on him staying cuz he’s home.
This is the Brandon Jennings we need every show
No he was contradicting himself
an illiterate? LOL
I’m talking about being more involved not just sitting there staring at the floor 👀🤣
“Is Paul George a Sagittarius?” 😂😂😂😂
Thing yall missing is the clippers said “we want you to be a clipper for life.. end your career here… “ so what’s the problem with a no trade clause . Or was they just telling lies
PG said Clippers want him to retire there and offered him that 3 year deal so he said he’ll take the deal for less but give me the no trade clause they said no so he said ill take the same deal as Kawhi so if you do trade me I at least got my money they still said no so PG went to the open market. Basically PG called their bluff you want me to retire here then prove it and Clippers folded
Thank you! Brandon just be saying shit, it’s not about the superstar status, it’s Clippers trying to sugarcoat “we want you retire as a clipper” but not willing to take accountability
Exactly . That’s party they missing . It dnt matter wether he’s worth the contract or not the clippers said they wanted pg to retire a clipper. Told he’s essential and they view him the same way they view kawhi. . So him asking for the no trade clause shouldn’t have been issue . Clippers were talking out there ass fr nd fcked up
Cuz now they lost him
For nothing
@@josephbarnes63 exactly PG was being smart said if you mean what you say then prove it and put pen to paper
But PG wanted golden state. From a GM's perspective, PG didn't get his first choice.
Another reason Brandon is wrong af is the fact that he did get the money some where else… some body thought PG was a superstar cuz he getting that money 🤔
Ain’t no way in hell I’m giving PG a No trade clause!!! He is not on that level.
So what ? Clippers have said to PG that he is an essential part of their future and they want him to retire there . Considering that he is a valuable scorer an had to carry a team because Kawhi was never there and a possibility that Kawhi will play in the next playoffs is low for two reasons . It's not a guarantee anymore that the clippers will get the playoffs , for that to happen Kawhi will need to play almost all of the games and also be more productive than before to fill the void of Paul George . And if he will do that , than comes the second reason , he probably will not be healthy for the playoffs and the whole team will basically be James Harden. So in Paul Georges train of thought he is like , if what you say is true , than put in on the paper , promise that you will not trade me.
They didn't give it to him .
You say that you wouldn't give to him too , but as you see , all of a sudden PG is not on your team
@@kkk-y5i as a fanbase if you aren’t the franchise player you aren’t getting a no trade clause plain and simple. PG not better than Kawhi and he didn’t even get it
Stop looking at this as a game. It's OK for GMs and owners to trade and cut you at will but it's not ok for players to protect themselves.
Bruh the team said they want him to retire there, so he pulled up and said put it in written. Nothing wrong with getting an organisation to double-down on their OWN word. And if they couldn't thry needed to just pass him more money, nothing wrong with that.
It don’t matter y don’t have no power so just fall back and spectate
The question is could Brandon or Mcants ask for a no trade clause???...
Never 😂😂😂😂😂
Absolutely NOTTT
I agree with Bj and Mccants.. PG aint been hooping on a “no trade clause” level since he been in LA
So nobody gonna talk about how they offered him a 2 year 60 million extension at first that’s how the disrespect started
Disrespect me with $60m. please!
@Philly-zo2xn Yeah, I mean I get it. PG is on the backend of his career so why not take all the money that you can get? After he retires bro still has to upkeep that lifestyle so once it looked at it from that prospective I understood why he pushed the needle.
Sometimes Brandon and Rashad talk like they fckin Hall of Famers. Just chill yall was ight!! NO All star appearances or All NBA teams between the two of them combined
Brandon is speaking truth!!! What makes PG special he has not done anything to win.
And u talking like u on their level either…chill out u was never relevant 🤷🏾♂️
@@boss-eq6pn PG has same amount of rings as us in the couch.
@@Emyc-b8xit’s not about being special. The Clippers and PG negotiated end of discussion
@@boss-eq6pncook him lmao
Brandon Jennings joining the pod was the best addition they could’ve had.
It’s can negotiations for a reason. If you don’t ask you’ll never know. Closed mouth don’t get fed.
Dang I never get here to be part of the first comments keep it up gang 💪🏾💪🏾
What Gil said went ova their heads…lol
Gil worried about money. Shows why he ain’t even a top 100 player 😂
Imagine being offered 50 million a year and you're still trying to negotiate
That’s what you should do as a player. Or in any negotiation
Your perspective would change if you were dealing with that money any amount offered is halfed due to the irs too remember that
Gil Be Arguing With His Self 🤣😂😭
I already know this is gonna be one for the ages
nigga did B just ask if PG is a sagittarius 😂😂😂 tuff crowd
These guys be arguing about the same thing just saying it different.
PG went for the bag, if he wanted to stay he would have.
It would make no sense to give James harden 35 a year and then max out Paul George, you can make the argument that Harden outplayed PG in the playoffs
It’s no argument. Harden outplayed PG hands down.
Harden outplayed him obviously
Are y’all fucking stupid?? What series did yall watch? Harden barely showed up PG carried them every game they won
@@wesbesttreacts4515 it makes no sense to let Paul George walk and go into a season with washed harden and walking injury Kawhi as your only two star players lmao.
Paying both of them is insanely stupid without resigning Paul George. They also have no draft picks because they traded them all for Paul George.
Balmer screwed his team and now he's stuck with two guys will be lucky to carry that team to the play in game. And because of the cap rules, they can't resign anybody with the money they saved from not signing PG lmao.
There is no way to spin this into anything positive by the clippers. It is poor asset management. They wasted money on Kawhi and Harden based on the idea that they were bringing back George. If they knew PG was walking, then they wouldn't have resigned Kawhi and Harden and would have started an actual rebuild.
George leaving is a chain reaction that screws them for years lol.
@@joshmanuel3773 you’re not making any sense, like you said, the clippers have no draft picks so how exactly would they rebuild the team? By signing Kawhi and Harden they are actually in a better position to both contend or rebuild as they at least have the option to trade them for draft stock.
Nobody is saying George walking for nothing is a positive thing but the clippers didn’t want to max out a 34 year old 3rd option and I don’t blame them
Giving a no trade clause to a player in its mid 30s that had multiple surgeries doesn’t look smart.
The no trade clause is negotiated because Clippers wanted George to take less money. It makes no sense for the team to offer less money than market price + capable of trading him anywhere, that's absurd.
You either pay a price or compensate it somehow. No trade clause is Clippers compensation for not giving that extra year, 50 million or so that George wanted. Have you ever in been negotiation position? Has to be win-win.
In PG’s defense he has done more than Kawhi for the Clippers in terms of working hard and showing up to games unless completely injured.
lol no Whi has in all the playoff series Whi got us wayyy further then hurts himself doing too much
working hard? 😂 dude was injured and yall saying he didnt worked hard talk that to his broken knee 😂
I hope u say something about the owners too. How long it’s been since players have any powers
I don’t blame PG for asking for it but no team gives this for a reason. Fact Philly did it proves not many players want to go there.
PG getting a no trade clause? Hells no, he aint up there.
It's only 2 ppl with no trade clause. What's wrong with it.
@@bhaysmithbsit handicaps organizations and potentially stunts their growth
He deserve it cuz he asked for it
Bradley Beal had one thi
It was 4 years or a no trade clause. Less money? Well, promise you won't trade me. That's reasonable and there's nothing wrong asking for it.
I don’t understand how former players are mad at current players conducting business and using their agents and leverage to have better situations in these contracts?! Just feels like bitterness & hating honestly cuz players are getting higher paid and better situational contracts than they ever negotiated in their careers. SMH
Sure is...jealousy is a hell of a thing...LOL. Lots of jealousy in the NBA
Gil understands it , they never had the leverage
Bro comes off super jealous.
I know this a basketball show but the amount of goal post moving is every episode is legendary.
Talk that shit BJ 😂
Clippers got worse
Brandon cooking right now!!
He's not cooking. He sounds crazy. Of course PG should have asked for a no trade clause. You can't get anything if you don't ask for it first. Why would I automatically undervalue myself.
@@smiller9308 Let’s just keep it real. PG wanted outta the west.
@@stevenedwards891 he four years 212 million. Just sounds like good business to me!
@@stevenedwards891nah. PG didn’t want 2 years 60 mil that was a slap in the face.
Clippers wanted him to fold but it blew up in their face because Philadelphia had a max slot!
Simple of that
No they wasn't going to give him the no trade@@fairgamewithtjorum
Who on that couch had a better career than PG?
PG got a bag in a big city so he won. The market decided that PG was right.
Bruh what do any of that have to do with anything. WHAT ARE THEY LYING ABOUT?
By that logic, you shouldn’t have any comments/opinions about any pro athletes huh?😂
@@getdown7799what are they lying about? I’m 100% sure if they had leverage they’d use it. The owners make billions a year. Why wouldn’t they negotiate?
Don't you watch to get their opinion? That the point of the podcast genius.
That's retarded. So they can only talk about the players they were better than? What are you fxckuing saying? hahahaha idiot
Why would a team take their power away. So they suppose to not get what they want out of player but be stuck with him
Pg already knew what was up 😂 in Philly embid avoids all criticism so when they lose before conf finals pg had to make sure he can control his future
Pg don’t have a no trade clause in Philly lol
@@shizzoflex3121 they reported he did
And when did Kobe sign his no trade? Exactly
Paul was the most reliable player this season
Mane thus pisses me off I watched very clippers game this season kawhi was the most reliable player , Paul George was so horrible in 75% of regular season games , kawhi was the best clippers player this season and played 70 games he missed the last 3 weeks of regular season to injury
@@Snipergangefacts!
If you really watched every game then you know.
Agreeing to a No Trade Clause (NTC) gives up a ton of leverage for owners. If the player starts slaking off after the 1st year they can't tell him to fix up or he's getting traded, so players can just take it easy knowing they can't get traded & are making a bag. But as a player, u want a say on where u get traded 100% & the NTC allows that. The 1st offer $60m for 2 years made Paul George not trust the owners & could be a sign they don' respect him & could trade him at anytime so he wanted that NTC
Brandon is one hundred percent correct and the ones who had the no trade minus Beal never had to worry about being traded anyway