Matt: These tires are renown for their grip. Show us what they can do, Randy! Randy: These tires need more grip. Matt: They've got all the grip and are designed for great performance, sooo... Randy: Ok, but they do not work well at all on this car. Matt: Mhm, a wonderful tire!
that marketing guy doesnt know anything about track driving. he was just reading off of brochure. he kept talking about the 20 inch diameter as if the diameter has anything to do with grip.
This is actually the worst paid video I’ve ever seen. Worst tire ever. They are the same ones Tesla uses with the sound deadening foam inside. I changed my Pirelli tires to Michelin and huge difference.
Nissan GT-R lap time 1:37.08 BM4 M4 GTS lap time 1:37.66 Audi TT RS lap time 01:39.95 Porsche Cayman S lap time 1:40.05 Shame the driver didn't use manual mode as he was complaining about the auto mode.
That turbo blow off sounds like a freaking Star Wars weapon 😂 man that's amazing. Also it's crazy how the new TT-RS performs like supercars used to back in the mid 2000s.
I have a TTRS and fail to understand why a professional driver wouldn't drive it with the gearbox in manual mode. I drive mine most of the time in manual and funnily enough have no issue with it upshifting when I don't want it to - the only time it will do this is from 1st to 2nd if you hit the limiter! The gearbox in the mk3 RS is not brilliant, especially when driving "normally" around town where it forgets it can shift fast and is frustratingly sluggish. I plan to get mine fixed by TVS Engineering soon!!
H2M Physique but you gotta realize that they are talking about when the r8 first came out it did 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and it was 120k and the new Audi ttrs is about 70k and it does 0-60 in 3.6s it’s a barren compared to the performance of the old r8
@@sasukerocksu 0-60 means nothing You can have a monster HP and crazy 0-60 time, but that doesn't mean if the car is any good On the point > R8 has a mid engine, doesn't understeer nearly as bad, has N/A engine, manual gearbox, looks 10 times better Totally different cars...
@@sasukerocksu Doesn't matter. Sports cars are about driving and you don't want a cheap crappy front-wheel biased AWD system in your sportscar. R8 all the way.
Driver says meh and the host high performance summer tire that’s good in the wet. This is the most confusing video I have seen. Is it the car or is it the tires?
Likely both. Maybe too much bias from AWD and it’s taxing the front wheels too much and some suspension inadequacies, plus notes that brakes dont have bite. Something isn’t balanced/matched properly. So it sounds like it needs wider tires, especially when you’re Randy and pushing to limit, imo that’s the easiest and most likely answer.
Recently took my '18 ttrs to laguna seca as well! And my best time was 1:55 Haha. Even with the optional carbon ceramics up front, not sure if Randy had those. But it was in the wet and with a passenger and my first time at laguna. Anyways, love the car. Can bump to 550hp with just an ECU flash, something I'm looking forward to.
Great video guys! Got a Audi TTs mk2 DSG. Mistershaft duel cat sports exhaust,RamAir induction kit.Revo stage one 333.3bhp 450NM torque.Power to weight ratio is good.246bhp per tonne pulling power.Weight 1.350kg.Got P7s on Mine great tyre.
I like the concept of the Hot Lap that you guys are doing, it would be great if at the end of the video you would show lap times from previous cars to see how they compare.
The Audi has bad transmission programming, weak brakes (not surprising, they do brakes in-house there) and the tires are not great, not a track weapon, got it. :) All that, but most people that buy it will still enjoy the brand's prestige and the fit and finish of the interior, Audi does that better than anyone in their segment. Super glad someone can give an honest review, thanks, Randy!
@MotorTrend Channel I know this isn't supposed to be a comprehensive review, but this is really clear as mud. It's pretty well-known the carbon ceramic brakes are a waste of $6,000. And the 20" wheels aren't worth it if your plan is to track the car. Such a seasoned driver and he can't be bothered to use the paddles to shift the car manually? come on... The only comment I think we can all agree on is the fact that we would all like to see more power sent to the rear wheels in this car! You guys are selling this car on 400hp and the fact that you can rotate its tyres. That's pretty laughable...
It's a small car with a transverse engine; yes of course it's Haldex. This means it's not permanent all wheel drive like a Torsen system, like most things it's a trade off. For normal driving and crusing it is predominantly FWD meaning you don't have wasted drive train losses so better performance and fuel economy. It's a gen5 system meaning it's highly reactive and can send up to 50% power to the rear wheels giving you the best of both worlds, but don't expect a RWD drifting experience!
How do you manage to understeer a TTRS, i know it as a nasty oversteerer on turn in and after that it's front is superglued to the road, while it's back is pushing under power. It has terribly brake cooling. First few stoops are great, after that it starts rapidly fading. But Audi Sport offers an improved Kit for ist with that it anchors on Porsche Level and with Porsche endurance. I use mine as a Track car, is modified to 480hp 600nm and has a full cage and especially on difficult tracks like the Nordschleife no car is faster.
I like Randy’s honesty. These aren’t the best tires, Michelin is much better, even the Firestone Indy500 have much better reviews and the Continental Extreme Contact Sport also.
Audi puts Quattro badges on everything, but this and RS3 don't get a REAL QUATTRO like the S4 with a Torsen center diff and a torque-vectoring diff at the real. This car only has a system called Haldex, which is not a performance AWD system, but rather a safety features designed to help cars go up slippery hills.
Those tires are garbage....if it would at least have the Michelin pss 4 then randy would be happy. I personally own those same tires and can’t wait for the pss4 to go in!
RS3 has 255 up front and 235 out back, but the TTRS has a square set-up? WTF? Hopefully APR can re-flash the quattro computer, send more torque out back and fit a wider tire up front!
Not a fan of those tires. They maybe ok for track day but unless you live in a hot dry climate I'd run something with a bit more range. Very sensitive to temp. and wet. Ran a set on a F-Type.
I never had a chance to test this tire enough in a hard performance scenario. Hot dry day acceleration seemed "ok" but I mostly stuck to the street and there aren't too many places you can pour everything into the corner without endangering others so couldn't put their lateral adhesion to the test.
I own a 100% stock 2018 TTRS and mine does not make all of those whooshing noises. Must’ve had the mic under the hood next to the intake. Also, he should’ve drove it in manual mode. Auto mode is horrific and always upshifts early even in S mode.
The engine still weights a lot. That makes the car understeery. But sure it's not that bad. The 400hp engine is lighter than the earlier 367hp engine, aluminum block instead of iron. Get the optional ceramic brakes, braking problem solved. Drive the car in manual mode, it won't upshift by itself. Problem solved. Get another different set of sport tires, problem solved. Good but inacurate review.
It's not the weight of the engine that causes the understeer, it's overloading of the front tyres. The front tyres work a lot as you're turning in and it's expected in a four-wheel drive
@@ifeanyiikpegbu6465 the weight of the engine is an important factor too. The TTS has much better turn in than the TTRS. I had a Focus mk2 st, 2.5 t5. Great chassis, but overweight at the front end. Now I have a leon cupra, lighter engine, a lot better turn in. You can feel the weight difference at the front axle.
Soul Younes It’s weird cause I’ve never heard these sound in these 5 cylinders. It’s like the put the mic in the intake to make the video look bad. Weirdest video I’ve seen.
Why are you complaining about the gear shift? Just put it in standard mode terrible review and for breaking get the ceremic breaks....just awful review
John Crazy lol yes you should ! I own this car and when you put it manual mode you can control it better, if you look at almost every sports car review they always use the paddles on the track
I like Randy and MotorTrend, but this is the worst video I’ve seen. It’s like they pushed very hard to make Audi look bad. First, those turbo whoosh noises I have never heard, unless there is an open hot air intake. Worst Mic setup I’ve ever heard planted. The point of a DSG is to shift on your own with paddles. Poor driving skills from such a pro like Randy. Audi had to change software for fuel EPA to get approval in US. These cars need a tune to unlock. That’s why they upshift so fast. Tuning one will put a huge smile on your face. Most important is those are the worst tires. They come with the foam acoustic reduction sound inside ( same as Tesla). They have worst grip, braking, and buckle in corners. I almost killed myself with these tires till I changed and huge difference. Tirerack should not even sell this tire. Scary tires. If you want better handling, rear sway bar and springs totally transform the car. It’s night and day. The engine is phenomenal and capable of making huge power with tune and bolt ons. Many are running 9’s in the 1/4 with only bolt ons with stock block.
The TTRS is a budget R8 but overpriced Volkswagen Beetle!💯👎 The seats fall apart (NOT LYING LOOK IT UP) and it's ONLY fast when using launch control (limited to 200 launches). This car IS NOT worth the money! TTRS=💩
You clearly have no clue on what you’re talking about. Seats falling apart? It’s also has nothing in common with a beatle. Not even one part is shared. Yes 200 limit launch, but unlocked with a tune, which unleashes 100 extra hp easy.
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Matt: These tires are renown for their grip. Show us what they can do, Randy!
Randy: These tires need more grip.
Matt: They've got all the grip and are designed for great performance, sooo...
Randy: Ok, but they do not work well at all on this car.
Matt: Mhm, a wonderful tire!
Those tires are awesome if you skip the entire run around the track. Or mute randy. Lol
Those tires aren’t good on wet or cold
Ha, yeah this one kinda backfired on tire rack...
that marketing guy doesnt know anything about track driving. he was just reading off of brochure. he kept talking about the 20 inch diameter as if the diameter has anything to do with grip.
This is actually the worst paid video I’ve ever seen. Worst tire ever. They are the same ones Tesla uses with the sound deadening foam inside.
I changed my Pirelli tires to Michelin and huge difference.
Wow that turbo blow off sound stock is amazing!
pretty sure it has an aftermarket intake
Yes it probably has a cone filter - I have a TTRS and you don't get that induction sound with the stock airbox.
I love Turbo engines that aren't ashamed of being Turbo.
Nissan GT-R lap time 1:37.08
BM4 M4 GTS lap time 1:37.66
Audi TT RS lap time 01:39.95
Porsche Cayman S lap time 1:40.05
Shame the driver didn't use manual mode as he was complaining about the auto mode.
Just wanna wish u all a Merry Christmas!
That turbo sound ... is it really that loud inside?
Nick AlexuseesuxelA they must‘ve put a mic inside the bonnet or something, I can‘t imagine that it sounds like that in the cabin.
No it doesn’t. Inside you generally hear that awesome 5-cylinders roar, not much whoosh from turbo.
Not In my RS3, I agree must be a mic
It has to have an aftermarket intake...my RS3 doesn't sound like that.
I have a TTRS and that induction sound is not oem, at least not from inside the cabin.
That turbo blow off sounds like a freaking Star Wars weapon 😂 man that's amazing. Also it's crazy how the new TT-RS performs like supercars used to back in the mid 2000s.
I have a TTRS and fail to understand why a professional driver wouldn't drive it with the gearbox in manual mode. I drive mine most of the time in manual and funnily enough have no issue with it upshifting when I don't want it to - the only time it will do this is from 1st to 2nd if you hit the limiter! The gearbox in the mk3 RS is not brilliant, especially when driving "normally" around town where it forgets it can shift fast and is frustratingly sluggish. I plan to get mine fixed by TVS Engineering soon!!
Just because he's a pro driver doesn't mean he's the brightest crayon in the box.
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As much as I enjoy watching Randy do some precision driving, these cars should be shifted manually around the track.
seriously?! glad I am not the only one bothered by this.
Couldn’t agree more, he wasn’t in full control
The mini R8 🔥
2nd hand R8 is cheaper than this thing 😂
H2M Physique but you gotta realize that they are talking about when the r8 first came out it did 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and it was 120k and the new Audi ttrs is about 70k and it does 0-60 in 3.6s it’s a barren compared to the performance of the old r8
@@sasukerocksu 0-60 means nothing
You can have a monster HP and crazy 0-60 time, but that doesn't mean if the car is any good
On the point >
R8 has a mid engine, doesn't understeer nearly as bad, has N/A engine, manual gearbox, looks 10 times better
Totally different cars...
H2M Physique how is the R8 cheaper, R8s fully loaded are 200,000 and a fully loaded TTRS is 70,000????
@@sasukerocksu Doesn't matter. Sports cars are about driving and you don't want a cheap crappy front-wheel biased AWD system in your sportscar. R8 all the way.
Way to go MT ! The partnership with Tire Rack to bring back the videos we like is very, very welcome! Thanks and Congratulations.
This has been a great series to watch. I will definitely be watching the entire run of these videos.
Love the work from Matt Edmunds. TireRack rocks! Much love to Mike, Gene and the rest of the crew!
Underrated sports car!!!
Love that turbo sound !
The TTRS is really cool. Apparently it's capable of making 650+ bhp with just a few simple mods.
Torque move... Horsepower sells..
@@denoisysoldsbigredmachine7053 if that were true then all sports cars would be diesel.
650+hp to get more understeer? and burn those front tires
You'll be replacing front tyres every month.
@@wertpollwert like in every rwd 650hp car if you track it. No different.
Amazing car with the most amazing driver ever to really give us a proper car review thx Randy.
Merry Christmas to my fellow car fenatics
Not a spelling fanatic, i see...
Driver says meh and the host high performance summer tire that’s good in the wet. This is the most confusing video I have seen.
Is it the car or is it the tires?
Likely both. Maybe too much bias from AWD and it’s taxing the front wheels too much and some suspension inadequacies, plus notes that brakes dont have bite. Something isn’t balanced/matched properly. So it sounds like it needs wider tires, especially when you’re Randy and pushing to limit, imo that’s the easiest and most likely answer.
It's not an extreme performance tire
At least it ain’t a preview. Anyway, merry Christmas everyone.
The r8's little brother
Recently took my '18 ttrs to laguna seca as well! And my best time was 1:55 Haha. Even with the optional carbon ceramics up front, not sure if Randy had those. But it was in the wet and with a passenger and my first time at laguna. Anyways, love the car. Can bump to 550hp with just an ECU flash, something I'm looking forward to.
This is going to be my new car (I hope)
The sound is great but the car has too much understeer.You can get something much better for the money !
Great video guys! Got a Audi TTs mk2 DSG. Mistershaft duel cat sports exhaust,RamAir induction kit.Revo stage one 333.3bhp 450NM torque.Power to weight ratio is good.246bhp per tonne pulling power.Weight 1.350kg.Got P7s on Mine great tyre.
I like the concept of the Hot Lap that you guys are doing, it would be great if at the end of the video you would show lap times from previous cars to see how they compare.
Great sounding car
More power to the rear? Lol who are we kidding, Audi loves their understeer!
that mic position :OOOOO
Nice, Merry Christmas this would be a nice Christmas gift
The Audi has bad transmission programming, weak brakes (not surprising, they do brakes in-house there) and the tires are not great, not a track weapon, got it. :) All that, but most people that buy it will still enjoy the brand's prestige and the fit and finish of the interior, Audi does that better than anyone in their segment. Super glad someone can give an honest review, thanks, Randy!
Does it have fixed sport suspension and carbon ceramics?
@MotorTrend Channel I know this isn't supposed to be a comprehensive review, but this is really clear as mud.
It's pretty well-known the carbon ceramic brakes are a waste of $6,000. And the 20" wheels aren't worth it if your plan is to track the car.
Such a seasoned driver and he can't be bothered to use the paddles to shift the car manually? come on...
The only comment I think we can all agree on is the fact that we would all like to see more power sent to the rear wheels in this car!
You guys are selling this car on 400hp and the fact that you can rotate its tyres. That's pretty laughable...
Eh P-Zeros...there's definitely better tires out there
ikr, i wouldn't recommend them at all and they bigged them up big time here, despite a nice demonstration of the lack of grip.. Stupid!
When you make a 4-minute tire ad, but your pro driver says the car needs more tire.
lol
Audi doesn't sell this as a race or even sports car, it's a "Sport Còupe". A pretty fast one, but it doesn't try to be what it isn't.
We need a Golf RS
Haldex, right?
yes it is
Still an Audi
@@rnelson1415 still understeer
It's a small car with a transverse engine; yes of course it's Haldex. This means it's not permanent all wheel drive like a Torsen system, like most things it's a trade off. For normal driving and crusing it is predominantly FWD meaning you don't have wasted drive train losses so better performance and fuel economy. It's a gen5 system meaning it's highly reactive and can send up to 50% power to the rear wheels giving you the best of both worlds, but don't expect a RWD drifting experience!
@@r129r16pfl almost all awds understeer at some point
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Too sad that it hasn't got the Performance Parts because then it would have looked like a real monster and even be better on the track
This car is faster than my 2012 R8 V10.
Ayy wore my Weathertech Laguna Seca shirt today
Looks like the same track that I used to play on real racing 3
Love your vids
Why you guys don't record sound from the exhaust/inside? There is too much vaccum sounds when the microphone's next to the intake.
A pirelli ad. Nothing else
Dream car 😏
How do you manage to understeer a TTRS, i know it as a nasty oversteerer on turn in and after that it's front is superglued to the road, while it's back is pushing under power. It has terribly brake cooling. First few stoops are great, after that it starts rapidly fading. But Audi Sport offers an improved Kit for ist with that it anchors on Porsche Level and with Porsche endurance. I use mine as a Track car, is modified to 480hp 600nm and has a full cage and especially on difficult tracks like the Nordschleife no car is faster.
Yeah, but the RS is the top sport model it should come with adequate brakes for the track. I would buy the cayman instead.
@@jeffk464 No. 99% of Audi TT RS owners are not tracking it .
@@jeffk464 You so do not care when that, 5 ender starts roaring, hissing and spitting it's anger into the world.
@@thomascampr That, sadly is true, and for those who do the option Track Brakekit is ideal.
Forza on the PC or xbox?
Ugh that's so good🤤
thanks did not see that., would be nice if it noted this in the subject.
Did he say the P0 was a good tire for the track and then the driver said it wasn’t a good track tire?XD
I like Randy’s honesty. These aren’t the best tires, Michelin is much better, even the Firestone Indy500 have much better reviews and the Continental Extreme Contact Sport also.
Audi puts Quattro badges on everything, but this and RS3 don't get a REAL QUATTRO like the S4 with a Torsen center diff and a torque-vectoring diff at the real. This car only has a system called Haldex, which is not a performance AWD system, but rather a safety features designed to help cars go up slippery hills.
Those tires are garbage....if it would at least have the Michelin pss 4 then randy would be happy. I personally own those same tires and can’t wait for the pss4 to go in!
RS3 has 255 up front and 235 out back, but the TTRS has a square set-up? WTF? Hopefully APR can re-flash the quattro computer, send more torque out back and fit a wider tire up front!
I forgot Audi even makes the TT.
There is no head to head or ignition on the app too
Isn't the TT-RS a Haldex AWD? those only go 50/50.
not tuning sound?
very good
Sounds like star wars.
He idly didn't like the tires on it, but it's S promotion for tire rack
Not a fan of those tires. They maybe ok for track day but unless you live in a hot dry climate I'd run something with a bit more range. Very sensitive to temp. and wet. Ran a set on a F-Type.
Gravitycat IsnotamusedSC These are awful tired for track.
I never had a chance to test this tire enough in a hard performance scenario. Hot dry day acceleration seemed "ok" but I mostly stuck to the street and there aren't too many places you can pour everything into the corner without endangering others so couldn't put their lateral adhesion to the test.
koenigsegg agera rs?
Who the f*ck dude on left talking to master?
The new Audi charger. LoL
Thats a pretty harsh review from Randy
User error
I own a 100% stock 2018 TTRS and mine does not make all of those whooshing noises. Must’ve had the mic under the hood next to the intake.
Also, he should’ve drove it in manual mode. Auto mode is horrific and always upshifts early even in S mode.
More power to the rear wheels ( in most hands ) will turn that car into a boat anchor. And good luck stopping it with those tires in the rain.
Brute Better I run those tires presently and haha no kidding! The weather better be perfect. They grip well however when they’re used appropriately
Sounds like a supra inside
The engine still weights a lot. That makes the car understeery. But sure it's not that bad. The 400hp engine is lighter than the earlier 367hp engine, aluminum block instead of iron. Get the optional ceramic brakes, braking problem solved. Drive the car in manual mode, it won't upshift by itself. Problem solved. Get another different set of sport tires, problem solved. Good but inacurate review.
It's not the weight of the engine that causes the understeer, it's overloading of the front tyres. The front tyres work a lot as you're turning in and it's expected in a four-wheel drive
@@ifeanyiikpegbu6465 the weight of the engine is an important factor too. The TTS has much better turn in than the TTRS. I had a Focus mk2 st, 2.5 t5. Great chassis, but overweight at the front end. Now I have a leon cupra, lighter engine, a lot better turn in. You can feel the weight difference at the front axle.
Savagegeese > motor trend
Except Randy, they can’t send more power to the rear wheels. It’s technically impossible. That’s the problem.
What track??????
Literally says the name on the screen
Tire sipes might help, air psi change.
What happened to the pops and crackles?..
They got removed with the latest software updates :(
WTF! Seriously?! That was one of the best things about this car. Audi need to sort that out. 👎
Randy Popes
Straight line demon.
Is this CGI ? Why does it look fake ?
I am more of an rs7 fan. But I guess it's okay
That turbo sound is the 2nd most annoying sound coming from a car I have ever heard.
Soul Younes It’s weird cause I’ve never heard these sound in these 5 cylinders. It’s like the put the mic in the intake to make the video look bad. Weirdest video I’ve seen.
Good
dam that blow off
barber car
Dont worry everyone....sahej114 has been reported.
MOTORTREND WHT IS HAPPENING UR NOT UPLOADING VIDEOS TO OFTEN ONLY SELDOM
They have moved to their site ,you have to pay !
Why are you complaining about the gear shift? Just put it in standard mode terrible review and for breaking get the ceremic breaks....just awful review
for 70k no one should have to manually shift it!! that's why!!!
John Crazy lol yes you should ! I own this car and when you put it manual mode you can control it better, if you look at almost every sports car review they always use the paddles on the track
John Crazy also I don’t know where this was filmed but it costs much more than 70k in Canada
Very easy answer . Faster lap times without manual shifting.
Understeer makes me sad
Use the paddles then old man
Superb sounding engine. But I still can’t take any man seriously when they say the drive an Audi TT. Get an RS3 !
I like Randy and MotorTrend, but this is the worst video I’ve seen. It’s like they pushed very hard to make Audi look bad.
First, those turbo whoosh noises I have never heard, unless there is an open hot air intake. Worst Mic setup I’ve ever heard planted.
The point of a DSG is to shift on your own with paddles. Poor driving skills from such a pro like Randy.
Audi had to change software for fuel EPA to get approval in US. These cars need a tune to unlock. That’s why they upshift so fast. Tuning one will put a huge smile on your face.
Most important is those are the worst tires. They come with the foam acoustic reduction sound inside ( same as Tesla). They have worst grip, braking, and buckle in corners. I almost killed myself with these tires till I changed and huge difference.
Tirerack should not even sell this tire. Scary tires.
If you want better handling, rear sway bar and springs totally transform the car. It’s night and day.
The engine is phenomenal and capable of making huge power with tune and bolt ons. Many are running 9’s in the 1/4 with only bolt ons with stock block.
5th
Almost first
The TTRS is a budget R8 but overpriced Volkswagen Beetle!💯👎 The seats fall apart (NOT LYING LOOK IT UP) and it's ONLY fast when using launch control (limited to 200 launches). This car IS NOT worth the money! TTRS=💩
Nice emotes son.
You clearly have no clue on what you’re talking about. Seats falling apart? It’s also has nothing in common with a beatle. Not even one part is shared.
Yes 200 limit launch, but unlocked with a tune, which unleashes 100 extra hp easy.