I admit it, this is one of the best keynote session I have heard with so many conferences. I will now look for more of Mikko's videos. Really interesting !! Cheers.
If Mikko says it WILL happen, it really will. I don't think he's made a bad call in dee-cades. This is one of the guys who analysed Stuxnet and flame, his strength is his excellent global overview.
20:53 Of course it's a technical reason, if it was technically possible to acquire an intended target while minimizing collateral damage they would do it. You just need a human for deciding all that.
Yotaphone2 was an awesome Russian phone... I think FOSS is the only digital super power, data center location is irrelevant. More so should the global mesh and transparently distributed software ever happen.... This war theme is the same as last year?
With the human proclivity for seeding pure & beautiful systems with leverage in favor of one group or another, what kind of master AI does anyone imagine we will end up with? The initial thing we will end up with will be expensive and impure, and may likely cause a global cataclysm. It takes a very dedicated individual to allow the pure idea to remain a pure idea, but in the beginning, no such idealistic individual will be able to afford the horsepower to implement it. If we survive the cataclysm, and the technology continues to become more powerful, and the techniques of AI evolve, then maybe the pure idea can have the opportunity to boot up.
AI has already been corrupted. Enormous quantities of social media content are filtered through machine classifiers every day by the social media giants and it's very clear how biased it is. Social media companies trained their neural networks based on ground truth datasets that are anything but objective. To build the training data, they put out the call for volunteer censors / classifiers (eg, the RUclips Heroes program). What they then got was a whole lot of politically biased people (socially progressive) with a tendency towards being authoritarian because a libertarian minded person is repulsed by the concept of censorship and is less likely to volunteer for such a thing. Social interactions are being shaped by biased AI and it's translating into ever more balkanisation of society, a precursor for hot conflict.
Didn't really understand what he meant by Russia not producing network hardware and hence not being a superpower. Is he riding the "hidden tracking in chinese hardware" wave there? I mean, talking in military terms, Russia's got the most effective "infantry" (hackers), a recent research showed companies have the least time to react if Russians are hacking them, don't remember who was on the 2nd place but it wasn't even close. UPD: Now that he brings up data centers I kinda see where he's going.
@@AwakenedIndigo smartphone as a one single model, made in China. Designed in China. All they had to do is to say "slap some eInk display on the backside and shape the phone this way". No doubt, they have put their own GUI inside and a few Yandex apps, but that is it. Russian cars, oh my... For your own good, hope you'll never drive one. Well, maybe you like uncomfortable and unreliable cars, in that case yes, they make some.
@@AwakenedIndigo maybe that's exactly what they want - public not taking them seriously, while they in turn make the world go round on their command. I'm not saying that's how it is, but it just might be, we may never know.
There are lots of brilliant hackers who are Russian, but as far as “state hackers” (eg. working for, and in the interests of, the Russian government) the only reason they’ve spiked a bit higher than other countries in the last 6-7 years is due to Russia exploiting it’s own economic situation and bribing independent hackers. Another factor to consider, although to a lesser degree, is that they’ve become much more open to hiring people that wouldn’t even be considered by other nations for one reason or another (intelligence screening, psych profiles, etc). I don’t know if the attitudes and political views of most hackers are what made them hackers, or if they’re a result of becoming hackers, but if you go to a Black Hat or DEFCON event it is readily observable - these are mostly people that have no interest in working for “the man”. The CIA and NSA have always had a hell of a time recruiting truly talented hackers, which they like to sometimes blame on their “no criminal record” requirement, but their problem is “hackers don’t want to be feds” (generally). Germany, France, Australia, UK, Canada … they all have the same problem: they can hire script kiddies by the dozen, but script kiddies can’t write scripts. For state hackers, I’d say China probably has the biggest pool of “hacking intelligence” at their disposal for the last ~10 years - but they don’t treat them well and it’s only a matter of time before one of those hackers says, “enough”. I expect we’ll see a major “inside job”-type security incident or intelligence/whistleblower leak in China in the next few years (and yes, we’ll see it in the Western media … that’s part of why it’ll be a big deal for China)
Whistle blower in china? Hahahahahahaha. I’ve lived in china ten years, not gonna happen. Chinese are very nationalistic and the talented are paid well and treated well. And don’t forget there are comcentration camps here and people can disappear as there are no human rights.
Just one guy from Algeria, even tho it's full of security experts yet we lack the mentality of a real black hat hacker who contributes to the field and shares knowledge by attending such meetings and stuff, that sucks
AI has ethical dilemmas. Machine driven systems connected to weapons cause highly ethical problems. We should enact laws to wrap risk and concequences.
Sounds like a lot of hard work. I’m pretty sure ethical dilemmas go away if you get rid of the ethics, and that sounds way WAY easier, so I wonder which approach the world governments will use?
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I admit it, this is one of the best keynote session I have heard with so many conferences. I will now look for more of Mikko's videos. Really interesting !! Cheers.
If Mikko says it WILL happen, it really will. I don't think he's made a bad call in dee-cades. This is one of the guys who analysed Stuxnet and flame, his strength is his excellent global overview.
agree
Brilliant stuff. Love the concept of "intellectual asbestos," easily applied to so many other fields as well in broader conceptual terms.
I am SO SO HAPPY that I have found the cyber security field!
robots wars ;v or drone ;v is have connections ?
20:53 Of course it's a technical reason, if it was technically possible to acquire an intended target while minimizing collateral damage they would do it. You just need a human for deciding all that.
wow, this man speech real blow my mind.. how much security can we depoly to protect our network .... wow
Yotaphone2 was an awesome Russian phone... I think FOSS is the only digital super power, data center location is irrelevant. More so should the global mesh and transparently distributed software ever happen.... This war theme is the same as last year?
i wonder who rule that AI
Just wait for the hyperspace domain lolololo
With the human proclivity for seeding pure & beautiful systems with leverage in favor of one group or another, what kind of master AI does anyone imagine we will end up with? The initial thing we will end up with will be expensive and impure, and may likely cause a global cataclysm. It takes a very dedicated individual to allow the pure idea to remain a pure idea, but in the beginning, no such idealistic individual will be able to afford the horsepower to implement it. If we survive the cataclysm, and the technology continues to become more powerful, and the techniques of AI evolve, then maybe the pure idea can have the opportunity to boot up.
AI has already been corrupted. Enormous quantities of social media content are filtered through machine classifiers every day by the social media giants and it's very clear how biased it is.
Social media companies trained their neural networks based on ground truth datasets that are anything but objective. To build the training data, they put out the call for volunteer censors / classifiers (eg, the RUclips Heroes program). What they then got was a whole lot of politically biased people (socially progressive) with a tendency towards being authoritarian because a libertarian minded person is repulsed by the concept of censorship and is less likely to volunteer for such a thing.
Social interactions are being shaped by biased AI and it's translating into ever more balkanisation of society, a precursor for hot conflict.
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How do you spell neuralhijack
Didn't really understand what he meant by Russia not producing network hardware and hence not being a superpower. Is he riding the "hidden tracking in chinese hardware" wave there? I mean, talking in military terms, Russia's got the most effective "infantry" (hackers), a recent research showed companies have the least time to react if Russians are hacking them, don't remember who was on the 2nd place but it wasn't even close.
UPD: Now that he brings up data centers I kinda see where he's going.
Russia manufactured their own smartphone, building their own cars, but we don't hear about it in the western media so they are not a superpower :v
@@AwakenedIndigo smartphone as a one single model, made in China. Designed in China.
All they had to do is to say "slap some eInk display on the backside and shape the phone this way". No doubt, they have put their own GUI inside and a few Yandex apps, but that is it.
Russian cars, oh my...
For your own good, hope you'll never drive one. Well, maybe you like uncomfortable and unreliable cars, in that case yes, they make some.
@@AwakenedIndigo maybe that's exactly what they want - public not taking them seriously, while they in turn make the world go round on their command. I'm not saying that's how it is, but it just might be, we may never know.
There are lots of brilliant hackers who are Russian, but as far as “state hackers” (eg. working for, and in the interests of, the Russian government) the only reason they’ve spiked a bit higher than other countries in the last 6-7 years is due to Russia exploiting it’s own economic situation and bribing independent hackers. Another factor to consider, although to a lesser degree, is that they’ve become much more open to hiring people that wouldn’t even be considered by other nations for one reason or another (intelligence screening, psych profiles, etc).
I don’t know if the attitudes and political views of most hackers are what made them hackers, or if they’re a result of becoming hackers, but if you go to a Black Hat or DEFCON event it is readily observable - these are mostly people that have no interest in working for “the man”. The CIA and NSA have always had a hell of a time recruiting truly talented hackers, which they like to sometimes blame on their “no criminal record” requirement, but their problem is “hackers don’t want to be feds” (generally).
Germany, France, Australia, UK, Canada … they all have the same problem: they can hire script kiddies by the dozen, but script kiddies can’t write scripts.
For state hackers, I’d say China probably has the biggest pool of “hacking intelligence” at their disposal for the last ~10 years - but they don’t treat them well and it’s only a matter of time before one of those hackers says, “enough”. I expect we’ll see a major “inside job”-type security incident or intelligence/whistleblower leak in China in the next few years (and yes, we’ll see it in the Western media … that’s part of why it’ll be a big deal for China)
Whistle blower in china? Hahahahahahaha. I’ve lived in china ten years, not gonna happen. Chinese are very nationalistic and the talented are paid well and treated well. And don’t forget there are comcentration camps here and people can disappear as there are no human rights.
where's mexico =( ?
Just one guy from Algeria, even tho it's full of security experts yet we lack the mentality of a real black hat hacker who contributes to the field and shares knowledge by attending such meetings and stuff, that sucks
Deeeeeee-cades
yeah, walk up to the Blackhat scholarship recruits, and let them have all your stuff via Bluetooth or wi-fi ;-)
AI has ethical dilemmas. Machine driven systems connected to weapons cause highly ethical problems. We should enact laws to wrap risk and concequences.
Sounds like a lot of hard work.
I’m pretty sure ethical dilemmas go away if you get rid of the ethics, and that sounds way WAY easier, so I wonder which approach the world governments will use?
Russians use wood to heat the house. Putin talks about artificial intelligence. :)
Any other irrelevancies, non sequiturs, etc, that you'd care to share?
they use wood to heat houses as much as europeans use wood or asians use wood for their houses.
yet, there is not a single 4K video of a nuke test. must be real because the they told its real.
There are no nukes - eric dubay for amazing research
Black Hat Africa?? why you dont come to Africa??
AI is very scary and could be the end of humankind. Let’s hope wise people see this.
it will end the world if greedy "people" rule that thing
@perkedel kornet So we just need to get rid of greedy leaders? Well, that sounds simple enough. We’ll get right on it, thanks!
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Oh, so Europe is a major player after all.
He sounds like gru lmao