Controversial Thoughts: Can an animal based diet help with depression/anxiety?
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- Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024
- You bet it can!
The current paradigm of mental illness focuses on neurotransmitter derangements, but these are not the root of the problem in depression/anxiety etc., they are a manifestation of underlying inflammation and metabolic dysfunction.
Yes. These imbalances underlie almost all chronic illness, yet western medicine sadly continues to focus on symptoms rather than addressing the root cause.
What is causing the metabolic dysfunction and inflammation in many mental illnesses? Find out in this week's Controversial Thoughts video.
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I´ve had anger issues for a really long time, and I felt so calm and balanced when I was doing carnivore, I didn´t think I ever once went off the deep end. I´ve been off carnivore for a few months and have noticed my mood is more unstable when I eat grains and sugar, and now my inflammation is back. This video is a wake up call and reminder. I´m back on carnivore as of tomorrow.
Yess!
I always wonder why one “goes off” carnivore (animal based whole foods)? Legitimate question, I really am curious.
Honestly when I was in a carnivore diet just because I want to have the experience I was so fucking happy I remember I used to wake at 4am with out alarm and full of energy, right now I eat other things I feel that my life have no sense and also I’m so lazy and only want to die almost every day, I started a caloric deficit and I feel better! Also less grains and only a little veggies that I like to eat and aren’t as toxic are others
I change my diet because of others opinions but now I know that I wasn’t wrong, I was happy without reasons now I’m sad every day even if its not a bad day
Let’s get back to animal base diet ❤️and feel happy
My psychiatrist prescribed me Ritalin as soon as he diagnosed me with adhd. I took it and it made my stomach feel terrible and my energy levels dropped. After finding Paul’s podcast, I started an animal based diet and cut out all the terrible foods I was eating. My mood swings are gone and I have more energy than ever. My stomach never gets bloated like it used to and my acne has disappeared off my back.
Can you eat chocolate and keep your improvements?
@@candelaa.7907 not sure, I cut out dairy cause I found dairy caused my acne. Still have some every now and then. Just have to try and see for yourself.
Several years ago I got in my car in the garage and started it up, I was so depressed with no reason for it.
My wife found me passed out.
A year earlier I was tested by a Chiropractor for allergies and I was told I was allergic to gluten. I didn't believe it until I almost died, I went cold Turkey away from anything containing gluten and my outlook on life improved tremendously, since than and several years later with other maladies prediabedies I started keto and now for the last year and 9 months been carnivore, at 63 I cannot express how good I feel and the mental clarity or sharpness is amazing. I wish my parents would of known this when I was a kid perhaps I wouldn't of been labeled as encouragable and the dumb kid, the repercussions carried through life.
My wife and I had worked in the mental health field she a counselor, I in transportation, diet was not an option for her because she was not a licensed dietitian. My observation taking clients to physc was more meds , how maddening to see human beings not being holistically given other options.
Why is a chiropractor testing for allergies?
@@thefisherking78 I had no idea but glad he did. No MD thought of it , just throw a pill at my symptoms.
As I got off of gluten and before keto/carnivore, if I ate something with hidden gluten I would have a severe reaction.
Much trial and error. All I can share is my personal experience.
Chiropractors go to school longer than an allopathic medical practitioner. They are taught to look at things holistically, the "whole" being, not just the solutions to symptoms, but to look for the root of the disease.
Very interesting! The picture continues to be fleshed out
I cannot thank you enough for addressing this. My 13 year old daughter struggles with depression, anxiety, mood and possibly bi polar disorder (she is to be further evaluated) and adhd. As a result, she engages in self harming behaviors, has limited to no impulse control and is having extreme difficulty dealing with day to day school life. My Mate introduced me to your work some time ago and i have since then come to understand how metabolic health and disfunction controls our lives. I am forwarding this Controversial Thoughts to my child’s doctors and to anyone else i know it will help. Please keep doing your work. I look forward to learning more and will help spread the educated word.
Your daughter sounds like me when I grew up…struggled massively in school…anxiety …depression.. anger, self harm.. an eating disorder… I almost killed myself. Back then it was believed only boys could have adhd so I got no help. I was considered lazy and stupid and annoying. Got diagnosed at 35 and was presciribed vyvanse… wow life went from a daily struggle to the complete opposite..
@@elinmansson5535 i am happy you finally found the help you needed. I am hopeful that my daughter will see improvement soon. It hurts to see her struggle so much. I am trying whatever i can to get her help.
@@aklifestyle3299 Life is certainly not easy! Diet definitely helps.I am convinced that too much sugar is bad for our mental health! Realistically though, how many people are actually able to stick to eating only meat?? Especially a teenager? with all the influence and pressure from friends...I wish you all the best of luck x Im sure things will work out for you in the end!
@@elinmansson5535 thank you! She seems to get the idea of certain foods and oils are toxic and while i am trying not to “push” her, i am nurturing her love of meat and salmon. I only cook with butter, animal fat or sometimes unrefined coconut oil. She likes my cooking, thankfully. Lol. My fingers are crossed.
@@aklifestyle3299 That sounds awesome! 😃
You should have Nora Gedgaudas back on to discuss this. I read about this stuff from her Book Primal Body Primal Mind back in the late 2000's
Yes. I've eaten carnivore for over 3 years and I no longer have depression nor ptsd. I have stable and even moods.
I've been playing around with the carnivore diet and going back to my old carbohydrate diet (to see what works and what doesn't). When I have an "ordinary" carbohydrate meal, I crash emotionally and physically really hard. I've been living like that for many years, and it's a shock to me that I've lived most of my life like that which is why I had made decisions that increased my depression. I can now say I don't have social anxiety or depression, and when I experience some of it from lemons of life, it's much more manageable than before. I become sad but not bedridden depressed which makes a huge effect on my lifestyle choices.
Without even watching this, yes. I know it cause I've tested it on myself.
Me too.
Do you mind elaborating Rich? What did you notice, was it fairly gradual, etc?
Dr. Saladino have you ever seen a recover from severe Chronic fatigue syndrom with strict carnivore diet? How long it should take?
Thanks Paul, This is a great video. I sent something to Shawn Baker in the comment section of one of his videos. Please contact him for that Co-/Vid info that I sent him. Many do not know about this information because of the widespread censorship.
Excellent and very informative regarding critical health issues. Thank you for your videos!
Hey Dr Saladino. Dr Ken Berry just did a recent video "proving" organic raw honey is just as bad as processed sugar. It's all the same thing. What are your thoughts on that? Maybe you can do a small video addressing that study??
@Jamel Carpenter if I could I would but my country has me illegally caged and I haven't found a way out yet.
Thanks Paul ❤️
I didn’t know how sick I was until I wasn’t.
I can't wait to be like this 🙂
I struggled big time when I was first trying to get sugar/processed crap out of my life. Whenever I would fall off the wagon for a few days, one of the first things I noticed was that my anxiety increased and ability to deal with stress decreased.
I have a friend that doesn't believe in the fact that anxiety and depression are rooted in inflammation in diet and I have no idea how to help him learn better.
It isn't always. Sometimes the reasons are psychological. Simply by eating differently you can't rewire the brain of someone who has CPTSD for example. It can help and is even essential part of it, but not everything.
a lot of people don't want the reason to be something they are doing to themselves. because that requires them to change.. and that's hard.
@@metheiam5714why not give yourself the best possibly opportunity to recover and do both lifestyle and whatever therapy methods on top of it
Please have James rebanks on your show regarding his books on natural farming
Hi Dr, I’m trying to plan to go to Costa Rica on your next Carnivore meet up , if you can give ppl a possible time frame. Im excited about it! Thanks Boss
My mother had chrones disease and mental illness she bought into the low fat diet mind set with converting to using only seed oil products in the early 60's. It was a hard life😞
What happened to her from then?
This was just fantastic information wow I am learning so much thank you
Paul I have a question I hope you see this do you think between omega-6 linoleic acid found in pork and chicken and it's relative seed oils or are the seed oils more oxidative?
Thank you!
This was so great! Thank you!
I was wondering about your supplements. I've been to a Functional Dr who did lab's and said I have excessive histamines and I'm an undermethylator. I have a boatload of deficiency issue's (vit D, zinc, B's etc) and have suffered really bad full body inflammation and GI issue's causing severe nutrition deficiency since having covid in August 2020 and recently found a Functional Dr to try to help me with these issues. I've been changing my diet, primarily carnivore, so: meat, fish, eggs and cheese, cream and butter. No grains. I was wondering if your supplements are tolerated by people with these types of health issue's? It's all very new but I know I'm meant to aim for low histamine food's and I was also diagnosed hypothyroid. So I'm also doing IF 20:4. You've mentioned a few supplements and they sound as though they'd be helpful but not sure because of my current issue's. Would love to see what may work. I'm in Australia, do you ship here also? Thanks again, I love your thought provoking content!
Good on ya, mate. In Australia vegetarians & vegans are over represented per capita amongst those seeking or referred for assistance from the public mantal health service. The ex vegan forums are peppered with people observing the change in their mental state after returning to animal based foods, & also often after ditching many plant based foods, also
On a personal note, I know/ knew 5 vegan male succesful suicides, all under 40 years of age. I believe their diet had a signifcant part in their mh status & deaths. People speak of these mens' veganism as evidence that they were good people. They were already good people before they went vegan. Veganism is a significant part of why they are dead people.
Much of my immediate family have been prescribed anxiolytics for life. I have been offered the same treatment for my generalized anxiety disorder, but I have extreme hesitance to accept after learning of Dr. Peterson’s experience with benzo withdrawal.
I am a 19yr old male. I began a carnivore diet two weeks ago following 3 weeks of keto which failed to deliver any benefits to my anxiety or my idiopathic arthritis. After a week on carnivore; eating liver, muscle meat, bone broth, moderate/high fat and moderate protein - I’d begun feeling depressed, which I have not suffered from in the past, and I was extremely physically fatigued. I added back raspberries, avocado, and honey. I feel much better after 1 week of this. However, my anxiety disorder has shown little improvement, my arthritis a small but perhaps noteworthy amount. Might it be that not enough time has passed, or another cause? I do not cheat - ever - on my diet.
Try cooking with coconut fat for a few days, the mct oil in it makes wonders. Also some fish oil capsules, 2 a day for a month or so, see if it helps.
Booth of these can help feeding the brain with good fat.
Additional information - I’m unsure of it’s relevance but I will include it regardless:
I am 19, 130lb 5’5”, male.
My daily diet is as follows: eating window noon-7:00pm.
Breakfast: 12oz uncured bacon, 2tbsp honey, 2/3 cup raspberries, 30g avocado.
Dinner: 1lb 80/20 grass fed ground beef cooked in grass fed organic beef tallow, using Redmond’s real salt OR ~1-1.25 lb of a grain-fed cut of beef cooked in organic grass fed beef tallow, with 2tbsp honey, 2/3 cup raspberries, 30g avocado. Heart & soil whole package.
2x per week I will include 3oz of cooked calf liver with one of my meals.
Nature of anxiety disorder: began in early elementary school, arthritis began 8 years ago. I hear voices as a symptom of my anxiety, experience panic attacks nearly daily, and during more intense days I witness visual hallucinations. A LOT of my family suffers similarly - more than don’t - and they all eat a SAD.
I am extremely motivated to find a solution, as my mother and broths suffer similarly. Being able to improve my own quality of life and theirs is perhaps the most worthwhile goal I can pursue right now. Any information is appreciated.
For anxiety and depression you should increase fat consumption, some coconut fat can help with its mct stuff. It takes at least 2 months to see some real improvements and can take up to 2 years to completely heal serious stuff.
One thing i noticed when instartes keto dieting 2 years a go is that you need to force you body to go into fat burning state, this can be done in two ways, eating a lot of fat or fasting,you should try eating a lot of fat untill you literally start smeling acetone it may take a month or so, then you can reduce fat to a normal dosage. And as much as this can help, i felt that fasting (from 16h to 36h few times a week) is the best way of reducing depression and anxiety faster.
Hang in there and keep going on the diet here
I take his liver supplements and they have helped immensly
We also eat our steaks and ground beef with butter on top
Wishing you the best 😊
Try a four or five day fast to really get into ketosis and autophagy.
I agree, I feel better after a month of carnivore.
May I ask a question?
The recommended proportion of fat is 1.5-2g of fat per 1g protein.
It comes up, for 500g of meat (5x30g/100g = 150g protein x 1.5 = 225) at 225g - 300g of fat.
Thus amount of fat is enormous and, following also OMAD, gives me a light sense of nausea.
Isn't it a bit against the natural proportions, eating so much fat to protein?
Thank you so much Dr. Saladino! I am going to meet a friend who is struggling horribly with anxiety and stress eating. Can you please post the studies? Also I am currently doing my MACP and I am dedicated to bringing diet into my future counseling practice
Glad to see you making mental health videos.
Is there a correlation with Lyme disease and mental health ? … I’ve heard that depression and anxiety can be the only symptom on Lyme and Lyme co infections such has babesia
I changed from eating SAD to whole foods high meat keto. I no longer need my anxiety meds and feel the calmest in my life. Saying a lot with the current state of the world.
Hi there, that's fascinating, was it easy to tell when you felt more calm, was the process quick?
@@philmehrart it took about 2-3 weeks for the mental aspect. The inflammatory pain was gone once my body was in ketosis. I didn't think my mental health would change. I had many people from my work tell me it was great to see my smile or that I must have gotten a good night's sleep. When my husband commented that he hadn't seen me so consistently happy in years, it really hit home to me how powerful diet can really be.
Depends on what your life is like. Iam good.
I am interested in the mental health aspects of an animal based diet. Typically how long does it take for different people to feel the difference.
Do you get enough folate? Many people don’t metabolize folate sufficiently and need methylfolate. And if one has anxiety from a young age how could it be inflammation? How do you conclude root cause?
Fantastic
Yes.
Lifelong depression and anxiety got 70% better for me when I replaced (gluten) grains and dairy in my diet with ruminant meat and organs. Literally within a week.
Im reading grain brain book from dr david perlmuter and he has lots of testimonials just like yours, get gluten free and sometimes milk free and within a week most people get healed of many illness.
Eating some (or a lot of) good fats like fish oil and coconut fat can also boost the healing.
Three weeks in, I’m finding the same response.
Can you eat chocolate or coconut without symtoms?
@@candelaa.7907 Nah. I have both histamine and salicylate intolerance so those are trigger foods for me. I can eat white rice, bananas, some other fruits and carrots though.
@@maxarendorff6521 thank you very much for your answer. So, you don't look for ketosis?
I'm so glad you are bringing this up. Keep hitting on this issue, please.
Gosh I know this is an old video but I'm researching to help my daughter suffering with depression at 14. I see improvement in people with carnivore but fruit would make life more fun for her. Is it the carb/insulin that is the root cause? Or is it just inflammation from reaction to foods? How do you know when low carb is what is needed?
The more important link is gut dysbiosis and the brain axis.
My dysbiosis causes a elevated histamine which causes my Anxiety
Hey Paul would love to be able to get your supplements in Australia. Thanks for sharing this awesome video.
You are an amazing man
I'm just here to say bravo to Paul. Just read your email on dangerous misinformation and you're spot on as always, bro!
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Can you please address parasites as I believe that parasites may be responsible for triggering a lot of negative things in the body? Normal medical doctors don’t look at this unless it’s in a tropical infection unit etc, but a lot of us must have parasites causing havoc in our bodies?
Unless you have been drinking out of ditch, no, parasites are not really that common in modern humans.
@@robinbeers6689 I dont agree with that, I think the majority of human have some sort of parasitic infection.
@@rajibear77 Who told you that? Probably someone wanting to sell you a parasite "cleanse" product.
It varies a lot by geography. Some places in the world really are parasite ridden but if you have access to clean water and sanitary food, no, parasites are very rare. They are horrible when they happen. I got giardia once on a south pacific trip. If you have a parasite, believe me you KNOW about it. You don't have to guess.
@@robinbeers6689 no one told me that, I have done a lot of my own reading and looking at various information. Humans don’t live in a bubble, we go everywhere, we touch things, we eat things, be serious we all have some low level parasite infections, we live with some for of parasites all the time.
@@rajibear77 Parasites are real but you don't get them from touching a handrail on the subway. You get them from contaminated food or water. And when you get one you are quickly laid out on your ass. This is a real problem in developing nations where people don't have access to clean water. Not a frequent problem in places that have 5G and WiFi.
Now, there are always other "critters" inside of us such as the bacteria that make up our microbiome and there can be viruses and fungi and bacterial infections trying to get a foothold doing battle with your immune system but those are not parasites.
GREAT TOPIC! Let me grab my coffee!!!
Paul, these are not controversial thoughts. There is sufficient evidence now
True but try telling the average person on SSRIs that they can treat their depression and anxiety with proper nutrition, sleep and exercise and you'd likely get a "what are youal, a doctor?" Then they'd go ask their doctor about it and they would hear "if these drugs aren't working, we have to up your dose."
How do you get the people off the addictive food??No one is talking about this… binge eating and compulsive eating is an enormous problem but no one is talking about it since it’s shameful. People are eating themselves to death in silence in their homes..
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I have observed people with no tonsills are more prone to depression on vegeterain diet.
Why do you think this is?
Paul how about Grass fed hamburger meat 93 protein 7 percent fat?
Though I think your theory/hypothesis has relevance to some people - a select minority - I don't think it applies to the vast majority. Depression is more social and economic and even spiritual than it is rooted in any pathophysiological biological process. I think their are genetic sensitivities but those sensitivities are not so much triggered by what people eat but by how people think about their lives the world at large and their perception of what is or isn't possible for them - relationships both past and present also factor significantly. Meaningful authentic self expression or lack thereof also plays a large part in mental health, lack of intimacy and human connection too. These problems are much more complex than dietary factors so I think many people create a narrative surrounding diet because it gives one a manageable point of intervention. It is also empowering however may also serve as a distraction from other factors influencing mental health.
How do you test for inflammation in the CNS?
Nowadays, people are just simply not eating enough calories to provide energy for the brain to work since they are afraid of gaining weight and therefore, most develop depression/anxiety. Any kind of diet that provides enough energy to the brain will improve symptoms of depression/anxiety. Carnivore diet is one way to provide enough energy to the brain without the fear of gaining weight.
I wonder if a psychiatrist could actually treat major depressive disorder with an animal based diet instead of SSRIs. To reduce the inflammation and the insulin resistance and the metabolic disorder at the root of the problem, instead of manipulating serotonin re-uptake. Would you lose your medical license that way, or would you cure your patients?
Georgia Ede is a board certified psychiatrist who does just that
@@cankerbloom9015 Yes, she is just about the only nutritional psychiatrist out there.
@@lawdogwales5921 There are more now. There is an International Society for Nutritional Psychiatry and a website devoted to this topic (psychiatry redefined). There are a handful of publications with the results of clinical trials and at least another six underway. Hopefully this is the start of the turning tide!
@@cankerbloom9015 That is great to hear. I'll have to check that website.
@thevword8889 not true. Many intractable complex psychiatric disorders can be and are being treated with a ketogenic diet
COMPLETELY TRUE
You said you were eating rice
high carbs and glucose cause inflammation; high fat, moderate protein and low carbs diet with IF prevent inflammation. I would not subscribe to Carnivore or to Herbivore diets cuz they are extreme forms which deprive the body of essential nutrients found in animal meat and low carbs veggies. Dr. Saladino himself remarked that he's omnivore carnivore by which he suggests his diet is not carnivore (all animal diet) but keto.
They ignore concepts that centre around healing with diet because it makes no money for the druggers.
Doesn’t cure but makes a hell of a different for mental health huge difference
What do you think about the danger of vit
A toxicity in people on a carnivore diet?
Only if you eat polar bear liver!
@@lawdogwales5921 I have recently heard a podcast claiming otherwise 😒
@@Aura-us7jl You should definitely check with Nikki Minaj's cousin's friend and see if polar bear liver makes his testicles swell up. Do your research!
@@robinbeers6689 Check out the "Stop eating liver!" podcast on Judy Cho's channel Nutrition with Judy (Judy is a carnivore nutritionist).
@@Aura-us7jl Yeah, I think Judy is a sweet person but she is wrong about a lot of things too including advocating coffee enemas.
There has never been a single documented case of anyone getting Vit A toxicity from eating liver. There have been many cases from people overdoing the supplements however. So, this toxicity is a real thing just not from eating normal dietary amounts of liver.
Yes.