I love how whenever some inhuman being is trying to suggest humanity isn't worth saving they always bring shopping malls into the argument. As though a shopping mall is the worst humanity has ever come up with.
Dr. Manhattan is still very much human. His recreated body shows off a lot of vanity. His jumping to younger females because of looks fading with age. They way he talks when he says he is tired of humans. Ozzy had him figured out and even manipulated him.
It's as if his loss of humanity was gradual enough that it was the remnants that were left that made him do the most inhumane things. He become detached enough to stop caring about his old love, yet his reason for their breakup was that he became attracted to a younger woman.
@@Shadows-RC We have no free will. But we don't experience the lack of it. It takes months or years of practice to truly experience the lack of free will. I find it interesting that Moore thought someone (Manhattan) who was experiencing his lack of free will all the time, as a cosmic jewel before his eyes, was still a slave to his own ego. Veidt's revelation was also a mescaline trip, which is oddly specific - more so with the cosmic jewel analogy of Manhattan's view of time. As Huxley would say in The Doors of Perception: This is how one ought to see. Time, there seems to be plenty of it. I was not looking now at an unusual flower arrangement. I was seeing what Adam had seen on the morning of his creation. The miracle, moment by moment, of naked existence.
"Do that thing you do!" And with that, Dr. Manhattan broke into song and dance of That Thing You Do from the 1996 Tom Hanks movie, and Silk Spectre began to cry, fulfilling Dr. Manhattan's prophecy of things ending with her in tears.
Adam l. Harper I think hisoka was trying to get me to say Unworthy to God because of my Cross avatar.. At least that's what most people try to do is argue with me about that rather than what I said. But yea.. I just meant unworthy like I would say about politicians that lie when they get to office and have all that power. The lose what made that, normalcy that made them a possible worthy person to begin with. With Dr. M's case he got a LOT of power and lost his worthiness.. Not really the powers fault but his own. A possible failing most/all would have from that much power?..
pendragonshall No, I wasn't lol. I was asking who the person in question would be unworthy too, because they are already a god and shouldn't give a damned what humans think of them. Normalcy is mediocrity/inferiority when compared to the likes of Dr. M and its just a template to understand things with given criteria (what "normal" things are) so who are humans to judge something like Dr. M when they do not truly understand where he is coming from? Not speaking of you specifically.
Hisoka X Huntah Ok, Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part then. But again, going by exactly what you just stated. Which is because he has all this power, he shouldn't give a damn what humans think about him.. Well, yes he should AND that is why no human should ever have this power. IS because of what you stated.. Any worthiness they might have had is now gone because this power has made them unworthy or even corrupt.. For instance. I'm a good person. I think a really really good one. Maybe you are to. But could we be trusted with this much power?? Would you go and do just whatever you please just because you can? Then just leave because you're sick of humanity? Would you trust me to have this much power? Someone you don't know at all. No..
He can only see events he's involved in. And even then he doesn't always interpret them correctly, as shown by the end of this scene and his change of heart.
Boy, Manhattan is really good at pointing out our absolute insignificance in the grand scheme. You can see he is so depressed that nobody else can grasp his perception of reality or its understanding.
I think, because he was once a man, he had ideas and concepts left over from his humanity, and he is learning more and more about everything with near limitless access to everything he needs to learn, explore and maybe even create his own universe. Even with what we know now, some people become depressed at the idea that we are just a formation, formed out of the "laws" of space and time, without purpose, and evolved to a point where we wonder, a set of mutations that must've benefited our survival in some way, but has us now wondering what to do with it. We could make our lives better, share with everyone the knowledge of our greatest minds who understand the most complex parts of the universe, but are still seeking to answers to questions that have not yet answered, work together as one, and achieve what has once been thought to be unachievable, but it isn't something we would be doing because we could, not because we absolutely have to, and as I said, *some find that depressing.*
for me he is the real embodiment of the universe he can see what a normal eye cant see i mean if your a mortal you can only see the physical world that physical world is only existed to your physical eyes physical body but doctor manhattan himself can see the real universe because he is not a physical being itself he is morethan than that
1:20 My god I uaed to sound like this when I was 13 and miserable. The way he just plays it even more deflated in the next line kills me lolol "Only what can happen does happen😮💨"
I like that statement, “And the universe will not even notice. In my opinion, the existence of life is a highly overrated phenomenon.” Whenever I feel anxious or frustrated at anything or anyone, I think about going to a cemetery. Under all the headstones are containers with the remains of people who were sure they were significant; they were sure their existence was ordained by the universe via a deity. Now, none of their fears, excitements, frustrations, loves, or pains matter. And if not for human burial practices, there’d be no way to know they ever existed.
@@CactusCowboyDan we really have no purpose we just “are” or we just exist, such as the universe is, does the universe have a purpose to exist? Is it’s purpose to hold existence inside of it or is it’s purpose to fill the void? What is purpose?
@@CactusCowboyDan It exists as a mathmatical inevitability and nothing more. As late stage reality eventually settles into total disorder, early stage reality will be full of order. Life is one step towards that order, which will peak, and eventually unravel into the chaotic nothingness it is destined to become. Dark, unending, uniform, entropy. You are nothing but a fraction, a small blip of sense the universe tries to make before it loses its mind for all time.
@@chatterheadstudios6260 Mathematical inevitability? What in the world are you on about, how exactly is the existence of Universe a mathematical inevitability?
Even when he shows Laurie I don't think she could see the past present and future at the same time like he does, her thoughts went straight to the past
0.25 "And the universe will not even notice" I loved that quote so much that whenever someone says something bad will happen or they complain about their lives I say that.
i love this comment but i hate to say it (universe) does. /but uts not abig deal/ and it just turns into a another event/happening. #eyewitnessed. so im so #yassbutno.
Honestly i Always questioned my existence as a whole when i was 8 but when i saw this It helped me to understand that even if we are nothing in the Grand scheme of things we can Always give meaning to our existence One way or another.
But reality is I dont matter, we dont matter Humanity's futile attempt to reproduce to keep living is just that, an attempt like that from a drowning man, he has energy, to attempt, to live for 1 more day or 50+ years but eventually that drowning men will die No matter what, we all will die earth will be dried like venus, Sun will loose its brightness and (vitamin D will stop coming for us) civilization our planet, our star, our galaxy, our universe, everything we call ours will seize to exist. And the world we call ours wouldn't give a 2nd look, even earth won't. I love it when save the environment, save the planet people are so loud on internet 😂, i love it. I guess that still makes me human, to live another day just to be able to imagine what year 3200 will be like? But reality is still the same we dont really matter.
Just do things who cares if there's some grand meaning or plan. If it exists there's no way our monkey asses are gonna comprehend it, and if it doesn't then thinking about it is a waste of time, so may as well just do stuff.
Do you feel pain and empathy for an ant? No, because they're insignificant in the bigger picture and you're a superior being. You're on the scale compared to god as to them, you don't feel for them as they're a lower being. Similarly, Doctor Manhattan is to us what we are to an ant. We are on the larger scale insignificant.
@@Hero_2222 And ten billion animals slaughtered each year just in the United States for mere food and pleasure. I'm no vegan nor vegetarian but it's a little ironic when you claim "most" love animals when they're willing to choose a steak or chicken without second thoughts of where it has been.
@@Hero_2222 Sure. But our definition of love although may vary from person go person, it is generally the idea of being giving, generous, not willing to harm and to some extent empathetic to that particular entity. Killing for food isn't. It is a convenient, cheap and safe way to pack in nutrients but also at the same time for pleasure which is the overconsumption of meat noted in first world countries in early 1960s and even China has doubled their meat consumption in the past few decades or so. My point is that most of us actually don't really care about entities "lower" than us being that we are on the top of the food chain. It is all part of nature. Like a lion that eat the babies of the lioness he killed and proceeding to mate with her, we are part of the cruel structure of nature.
Ah, good old narrative awareness. Dr. Manhattan’s main flaw is that he’s aware of the comic realities but unaware of the writer’s realities. His lack of ignorance means he doesn’t exist within the same storyline as his compatriots. Only what can happen will happen but, making decisions on what you fear will happen while ignoring the horrors you commit to prevent those hypothetical ends just makes you the monsters.
He realised either way that what can happen will happen is something that can have limits based on the point of view of who it is from he still has the human aspect of thinking things are limited but from a creators point of view if he wants the impossible to happen it will and he realised that concept later on when despite everything that exist and is so grand things happen in the most impossible ways and exist in the most impossible ways making it a miracle thats what makes it awesome there are things that cant be explained by the created because they are limited and can never see the full picture but they can learn to grasp or understand that if they are not ignorant and arrogant to their own understanding which is the worse thing to do as something born knowing nothing than you can see that we wont truly know everything no matter how confident we can pathetically act like we think we know the answers to things and we will end up closing ourselves to the possibilities of things based on the little we know out of all the infinite impossible to believe things out there that exist the ones we can see the one we cannot and the one we have yet to even figure out even sounds and cells that we can now see using technology we once would not even grasp or believe it existed because we can not see such tiny things in the world.
Actually, that's exactly what it means. But that's the thing. If out lives are meaningless, what is meaningful? The grander scheme they speak of, does THAT have any value? What is value? Does ANYTHING matter? What does it mean for something to "matter"? The statement is unfinished. It has to be "matter to whom?" Our world matters to US, and there is nothing more to it. No one said anything about the universe, or higher life forms, or ants.
@@viktorthevictor6240 yea, the value humans give to things are not some kind of universal constant, it changes from person to person, even within the same person over time some day one might value this thingy or person very high, then something happens that changes how you view that thing and suddenly its "value" has changed and by thing i dont just mean a rock or something that isn't seen as alive, living things are all valued differently depending on who you ask and when you ask them, its all just something we've made up so "meaning" and "value" is, from what i understand, completely subjective
It's because our time is limited as humans that's makes it worthwhile. Because every moment counts with how fragile life is. That's why I'd rather be human than Dr. Manhattan. Like Achilles said, the Gods envy us!
The fake gods do because they act more human the real God would never envy us because he is the one who truly know right and wrong and the truth of everything till this very day humans are ignorant, arrogant, prideful and REALLY think they have the answers to things in life believing God does not exist without any proof either and believing seeing is believing despite being proven wrong and the list can go on forever as to why humans no one will envy including humans. The ones destroying the world and truly dont cherish life are humans while God cherishes life and gives us what we need to do right and end the wrongs and we still chose evil he gave us free will and we choose to do wrong regardless of teaching us why things need to be a particular way and we choose not to see the full picture of things instead we choose to only understand what we want too and choose our way which is flawed we only see as much as we know but we nitpick what we want to learn even dr manhanttan learned miracles exist because he was seeing things through his understanding which was not perfect because he was human and despite seeing things differently now he still thought like a human and realised how he was not see the impossible is possible and it was all around him proving he is far from a true God as a true God would of known that already but he saw things not from a creators point of view but from the created.
Bruh I knew about this movie , but I never watched this I randomly found this clip in a video when I heard "Imo life is highly overrated phenomenon" I have already come to this conclusion after understanding antinatalism and Evolution
I used to think he made a giant clock, but now I think the floating star clock might be the illustration of how angels are described in the Bible, or just a pretty atom maybe
I always figured it was some super complicated mathematical structure that allows for perfect momentum changes and other ways of moving through space. Made sense since it would be something he just knows will work meanwhile I’m scratching my head.
There may be layers upon layers of this character, but I think he was written to be passive simply because the comic would be one page long otherwise. "And then bold go-getter Dr. Manhattan snapped his fingers and all nuclear weapons on earth instantly turned to candy. Humanity was saved and the dentists soon got tons of work." I am a simple idiot and regard him as a warning that if you passively sleepwalk through life, some "friend" like the genius in the movie will use you to do much mischief, whatever his reasons. The battle of life is to the vigilant, the active, the brave, they can easily outperform a sulking giant.
Oscar Blue lol maybe a little more aggressive/masculine but that edgefest of a voice he got the film is like the kinda shit edgy eliot rodgers love 😂😂😂😂😂
Guy that fell off his horse this isnt the normal DC universe , watchmen are separate , so there might not be a god there . And even if he was wrong that does not make him an idiot , if being wrong once is all it takes to be an idiot there is not a single human who is not an idiot .
Existence of self-aware, sentient life is a very rare phenomenon. Like non-binary stars or planets with a solid core. Cosmos created a part of cosmos that is trying to appreciate and comprehend it. Not highly overrated.
Dr. Manhattan is the embodiment of every quantum potentiality (field). His perspective and experience with reality is vastly beyond anything we can understand. I think the disappointing part about his character was to make someone so beyond anything else, but then have him used as plot twist to punctuate the premise, which was swayed in favour of a morality tale.
All of it is just a concept in our head..we catch and go on and take actions being driven by some, also we just flick aside some... But what makes us decide what to fick aside or what to catch on.. a certain state of our 'own' reality making us feel either it's the best option for myself or for the things that i care about... and there we think we are all aware of ourselves. "We are all puppets of reality, only I can see the strings."
Yet at the end hes sees how miracles do exist he has all that power but ended up with the typical human blindness of missing out on the full picture of existence itself of anything and being ignorant and arrogant because hes strong i love that he fifured out eventually it shows that human aspect he still has of not being able to see or know it all
That makes sense because he started being human and still has a human shape to some degree, that comes with human emotions and lack of coherent decisions even if he knows the consequences of such decisions.
He's clear an shes human. Miracle is like a sec grant of hope to the infinite universes hoping someone may hear. The gift of understanding an seeing the infinite is like a curse because they don't see and they probably never will. They can't see
He sees ravines and mountains ripple across the landscape like an ocean current. 10.000 years on earth is an absolute chaos of possibilities compared. The moment the interference happened it gave him equal peace and concern. Concern he might prefer the extinction because of the peace it provided. Like a visual tinitus. In the end nothing changes, the chaos exists but humanity lives. So he gladly nopes out.
From a constructive perspective, a mall is a place designated so that humans can spend their time (life) and money (effort) by buying things that they dont really need, so that they get a sense of fulfillment, and stop complaining, or just getting them out of the way of the ones in power, so his example is to just point that out. We could try and make a list of how many horrible things humans created, but this is still up there.
No I genuinely think that he made a stupidly poetic andover used argument. I hear people say things like "The universe is so vast and massive, what sense does it make that this tiny dot has any worth?" They use that argument to justify nihilism and it really does not make any sense.
First of all.. when he said "notice" he didn't mean it literally. It was figurative speech to say that even if a couple of humans die, nothing else in the universe is affected even slightly. I assume that you MUST have known that and you were just nitpicking. Secondly, how does that argument not make sense to you? The only point of people valuing things is that they put themselves or something else at the center and make it out to be vastly important. If there is an entire existence outside of one's life that would exist whether one lived or died, what then is the value of one's life? If everything you do is more or less insignificant to a majority of existence, why would there be any value in it?
Brandon Barnes I obviously knew that I was criticizing his figurative argument. I reject the premise that worth only comes from the thoughts of human beings. If you think that you are going against the intellectual positions of most of the great thinkers for most of human history. The burden of proof is on you. Secondly, I think your oddly arguing against yourself. If value only comes from people putting themselves at the center, then why is "the majority of existence" important at all. It is inanimate. It won't change much because you die but you will change a lot when you are dead vs being alive. And also "majority of existence" is a weird term to use. Your simply saying that "greater amounts of matter mean more than lesser amounts of matter". But whose to say that life is not inherently valuable? Who's to say that puny human whose death will not affect a galaxy is in fact more valuable than the galaxy because he is a thinking and feeling being. What if it is the galaxies and cosmic events that are meaningless, because humans don't even notice. Or possibly there is something or someone greater than humans that determines worth. Whatever the case, it is kind of silly to automatically assume that humans are worthless because it doesn't affect the universe as a whole.
+Brandon Barnes And also, I personally never valued my own life or anyone elses because I thought we were the center of the universe. I was under no illusions that my life or death would expand the life cycle of the sun, or would stop the formation of planets and stars, but I still value my own life and the lives of others for reasons independent of that. So I think that the idea that the idea that the only point of value is to make something hugely important and the center is kind of bogus. Heck sometimes I even value things that are not even at the center of my own life. I value a piece of art not because I am pridefully trying to make it vastly important.
Thr problem with dr Manhattan is that all the depressed edgelords sincerely identify with him and think that therefore they're also all-knowing misunderstood beings instead of sad, psychologically lazy, volcels
When you're trying to seem smart, make sure you have the correct quote. "Only what can happen does happen" has a very different meaning from what you wrote
The only way to truly understand how dr manhatten feels is to take like 5 grams of mushrooms. He is right. Our insignificance in the universe is so obvious in everyday life yet our ego personalize it and try to give it meaning when in fact. We are as insignificant as the ground we step on everyday. Our planet is as insignificant as the solar system its houser within. The scale not just in width but in time of everything is so huge it makes everything kinda pointless. My ego is trying to bring down to ground as I type this. It does have meaning. Its all happening. Is it
Says Mars works fine without any life there (even though there is bacteria or some shit there) and then tries to undermine his argument about living beings by enumerating inanimate objects such as pipelines. You what mate?
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I love how whenever some inhuman being is trying to suggest humanity isn't worth saving they always bring shopping malls into the argument. As though a shopping mall is the worst humanity has ever come up with.
+chris labella ROFL.....
Shopping malls are literally the worst though
They are.
shopping malls are the main simbol of captalism and the "capitalism hunger that destroys everithing"
well it's close
Dr. Manhattan is still very much human. His recreated body shows off a lot of vanity. His jumping to younger females because of looks fading with age. They way he talks when he says he is tired of humans. Ozzy had him figured out and even manipulated him.
Moadar care to elaborate?
which Ozzy? osbourne!?? wt..
Me too.
It's as if his loss of humanity was gradual enough that it was the remnants that were left that made him do the most inhumane things. He become detached enough to stop caring about his old love, yet his reason for their breakup was that he became attracted to a younger woman.
@@Shadows-RC We have no free will. But we don't experience the lack of it. It takes months or years of practice to truly experience the lack of free will. I find it interesting that Moore thought someone (Manhattan) who was experiencing his lack of free will all the time, as a cosmic jewel before his eyes, was still a slave to his own ego. Veidt's revelation was also a mescaline trip, which is oddly specific - more so with the cosmic jewel analogy of Manhattan's view of time. As Huxley would say in The Doors of Perception: This is how one ought to see. Time, there seems to be plenty of it. I was not looking now at an unusual flower arrangement. I was seeing what Adam had seen on the morning of his creation. The miracle, moment by moment, of naked existence.
"Do that thing you do!"
And with that, Dr. Manhattan broke into song and dance of That Thing You Do from the 1996 Tom Hanks movie, and Silk Spectre began to cry, fulfilling Dr. Manhattan's prophecy of things ending with her in tears.
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@@wiremuwifebash lol thanks! :D
When you are given as much power as Dr. Manhattan you look and view things on a different scale
+Official Filmilen Which is why a person shouldn't have that much power. They lose what made them and become unworthy.
+pendragonshall Become unworthy to whom?
Adam l. Harper I think hisoka was trying to get me to say Unworthy to God because of my Cross avatar.. At least that's what most people try to do is argue with me about that rather than what I said. But yea.. I just meant unworthy like I would say about politicians that lie when they get to office and have all that power. The lose what made that, normalcy that made them a possible worthy person to begin with. With Dr. M's case he got a LOT of power and lost his worthiness.. Not really the powers fault but his own. A possible failing most/all would have from that much power?..
pendragonshall No, I wasn't lol. I was asking who the person in question would be unworthy too, because they are already a god and shouldn't give a damned what humans think of them. Normalcy is mediocrity/inferiority when compared to the likes of Dr. M and its just a template to understand things with given criteria (what "normal" things are) so who are humans to judge something like Dr. M when they do not truly understand where he is coming from? Not speaking of you specifically.
Hisoka X Huntah Ok, Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part then.
But again, going by exactly what you just stated. Which is because he has all this power, he shouldn't give a damn what humans think about him..
Well, yes he should AND that is why no human should ever have this power. IS because of what you stated.. Any worthiness they might have had is now gone because this power has made them unworthy or even corrupt..
For instance. I'm a good person. I think a really really good one. Maybe you are to. But could we be trusted with this much power?? Would you go and do just whatever you please just because you can? Then just leave because you're sick of humanity? Would you trust me to have this much power? Someone you don't know at all. No..
dude is like a philosophical 8-ball
Funny, it does end with her in tears
+fabio pereira And when he comes back to earth, the streets were filled with death.
The man who sees everything for what it really is... was correct? How interesting. :-)
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He can only see events he's involved in. And even then he doesn't always interpret them correctly, as shown by the end of this scene and his change of heart.
@Otoopa What vase?
Boy, Manhattan is really good at pointing out our absolute insignificance in the grand scheme. You can see he is so depressed that nobody else can grasp his perception of reality or its understanding.
He’s not depressed, he’s actually emotionless.
I just looked it up to be sure, and he does feel emotions.
@@MoshiiiMosh He definitely has emotions
I can relate to him honestly…
I think, because he was once a man, he had ideas and concepts left over from his humanity, and he is learning more and more about everything with near limitless access to everything he needs to learn, explore and maybe even create his own universe.
Even with what we know now, some people become depressed at the idea that we are just a formation, formed out of the "laws" of space and time, without purpose, and evolved to a point where we wonder, a set of mutations that must've benefited our survival in some way, but has us now wondering what to do with it.
We could make our lives better, share with everyone the knowledge of our greatest minds who understand the most complex parts of the universe, but are still seeking to answers to questions that have not yet answered, work together as one, and achieve what has once been thought to be unachievable, but it isn't something we would be doing because we could, not because we absolutely have to, and as I said, *some find that depressing.*
A big blue god-man who willed himself into the DC universe. Yeah that explains how powerful he really is.
He was always in the DC Universe he just made himself canon to the most popular DC universe comics
@@Shadows-RC Beautifully said!
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@@Shadows-RC :(
for me he is the real embodiment of the universe he can see what a normal eye cant see i mean if your a mortal you can only see the physical world that physical world is only existed to your physical eyes physical body but doctor manhattan himself can see the real universe because he is not a physical being itself he is morethan than that
Even Rust Cohle would be like "Dude, shut up you're really bumming me out."
1:20 My god I uaed to sound like this when I was 13 and miserable. The way he just plays it even more deflated in the next line kills me lolol
"Only what can happen does happen😮💨"
If I were Dr Manhattan I'd have travelled so much away from Earth than Mars.
+vonezer He did, he also walked on the surface of the sun.
Would definitely to to the singularity of a black hole, see how that works out.
He probably found Tumblr
He went to another galaxy though.
“I’m leaving this galaxy.”
that's how you defuse an argument : "just stop your Bullshit." !!
I like that statement, “And the universe will not even notice. In my opinion, the existence of life is a highly overrated phenomenon.”
Whenever I feel anxious or frustrated at anything or anyone, I think about going to a cemetery. Under all the headstones are containers with the remains of people who were sure they were significant; they were sure their existence was ordained by the universe via a deity. Now, none of their fears, excitements, frustrations, loves, or pains matter. And if not for human burial practices, there’d be no way to know they ever existed.
So then why does life exist? What is it for if it's meaningless? What is the universe for?
@@CactusCowboyDan we really have no purpose we just “are” or we just exist, such as the universe is, does the universe have a purpose to exist? Is it’s purpose to hold existence inside of it or is it’s purpose to fill the void? What is purpose?
@@CactusCowboyDan there doesn't have to be a reason surely
@@CactusCowboyDan It exists as a mathmatical inevitability and nothing more. As late stage reality eventually settles into total disorder, early stage reality will be full of order. Life is one step towards that order, which will peak, and eventually unravel into the chaotic nothingness it is destined to become. Dark, unending, uniform, entropy.
You are nothing but a fraction, a small blip of sense the universe tries to make before it loses its mind for all time.
@@chatterheadstudios6260 Mathematical inevitability? What in the world are you on about, how exactly is the existence of Universe a mathematical inevitability?
Even when he shows Laurie I don't think she could see the past present and future at the same time like he does, her thoughts went straight to the past
0.25 "And the universe will not even notice" I loved that quote so much that whenever someone says something bad will happen or they complain about their lives I say that.
i love this comment but i hate to say it (universe) does. /but uts not abig deal/ and it just turns into a another event/happening. #eyewitnessed. so im so #yassbutno.
@@seeexy HAHA WHAT THE FUCK
What a loser outlook on life. Pathetic
wow, i hope you've grown up since then
@@Dover939 maybe I have, maybe I haven't. Even so the universe will not even notice.
2:13 This is a power I need very badly
Honestly i Always questioned my existence as a whole when i was 8 but when i saw this It helped me to understand that even if we are nothing in the Grand scheme of things we can Always give meaning to our existence One way or another.
But reality is I dont matter, we dont matter Humanity's futile attempt to reproduce to keep living is just that, an attempt like that from a drowning man, he has energy, to attempt, to live for 1 more day or 50+ years but eventually that drowning men will die No matter what, we all will die earth will be dried like venus, Sun will loose its brightness and (vitamin D will stop coming for us) civilization our planet, our star, our galaxy, our universe, everything we call ours will seize to exist. And the world we call ours wouldn't give a 2nd look, even earth won't. I love it when save the environment, save the planet people are so loud on internet 😂, i love it. I guess that still makes me human, to live another day just to be able to imagine what year 3200 will be like? But reality is still the same we dont really matter.
That makes no sense.
@@TheBusttheboss yes it does. it's existentialism.
AGAO???? what does that mean? did you do something wrong? huh?
Just do things who cares if there's some grand meaning or plan. If it exists there's no way our monkey asses are gonna comprehend it, and if it doesn't then thinking about it is a waste of time, so may as well just do stuff.
'Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." ~Matthew 19:26
So?
Tinfoil hat time.
Do you feel pain and empathy for an ant? No, because they're insignificant in the bigger picture and you're a superior being. You're on the scale compared to god as to them, you don't feel for them as they're a lower being. Similarly, Doctor Manhattan is to us what we are to an ant. We are on the larger scale insignificant.
Exactly
Anon Anon but a lot of us feel empathy for pets or even other animals...
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And ten billion animals slaughtered each year just in the United States for mere food and pleasure. I'm no vegan nor vegetarian but it's a little ironic when you claim "most" love animals when they're willing to choose a steak or chicken without second thoughts of where it has been.
Anon Anon It’s almost like other animals eat other ones too, besides, how many times do you see a dog/cat being eaten?
@@Hero_2222
Sure. But our definition of love although may vary from person go person, it is generally the idea of being giving, generous, not willing to harm and to some extent empathetic to that particular entity. Killing for food isn't. It is a convenient, cheap and safe way to pack in nutrients but also at the same time for pleasure which is the overconsumption of meat noted in first world countries in early 1960s and even China has doubled their meat consumption in the past few decades or so. My point is that most of us actually don't really care about entities "lower" than us being that we are on the top of the food chain. It is all part of nature. Like a lion that eat the babies of the lioness he killed and proceeding to mate with her, we are part of the cruel structure of nature.
Ah, good old narrative awareness. Dr. Manhattan’s main flaw is that he’s aware of the comic realities but unaware of the writer’s realities. His lack of ignorance means he doesn’t exist within the same storyline as his compatriots. Only what can happen will happen but, making decisions on what you fear will happen while ignoring the horrors you commit to prevent those hypothetical ends just makes you the monsters.
Wrong on all counts
He realised either way that what can happen will happen is something that can have limits based on the point of view of who it is from he still has the human aspect of thinking things are limited but from a creators point of view if he wants the impossible to happen it will and he realised that concept later on when despite everything that exist and is so grand things happen in the most impossible ways and exist in the most impossible ways making it a miracle thats what makes it awesome there are things that cant be explained by the created because they are limited and can never see the full picture but they can learn to grasp or understand that if they are not ignorant and arrogant to their own understanding which is the worse thing to do as something born knowing nothing than you can see that we wont truly know everything no matter how confident we can pathetically act like we think we know the answers to things and we will end up closing ourselves to the possibilities of things based on the little we know out of all the infinite impossible to believe things out there that exist the ones we can see the one we cannot and the one we have yet to even figure out even sounds and cells that we can now see using technology we once would not even grasp or believe it existed because we can not see such tiny things in the world.
"And the universe won't even notice"
The universe is a whole lot of nothing when there is no1 to experience it
That's probably smartest answer for this situation
Sapient beings like humans are the meaning of universe
@@hiralykowalski6825No… We’re not. Not even gonna bother listing all of the reasons in great detail as to why.
Just because something is meaningless doesn't mean it has no value.
Actually, that's exactly what it means. But that's the thing. If out lives are meaningless, what is meaningful? The grander scheme they speak of, does THAT have any value? What is value? Does ANYTHING matter? What does it mean for something to "matter"?
The statement is unfinished. It has to be "matter to whom?"
Our world matters to US, and there is nothing more to it. No one said anything about the universe, or higher life forms, or ants.
shut your stupid ass up, dude...
@@viktorthevictor6240 yea, the value humans give to things are not some kind of universal constant, it changes from person to person, even within the same person over time
some day one might value this thingy or person very high, then something happens that changes how you view that thing and suddenly its "value" has changed
and by thing i dont just mean a rock or something that isn't seen as alive, living things are all valued differently depending on who you ask and when you ask them, its all just something we've made up
so "meaning" and "value" is, from what i understand, completely subjective
@@sootmancer9851 and the universe doesn't even notice. 😊🙃
@@sootmancer9851 Think if we were never born
we are nothing
🤷♂️
and its by a very slim chance we were born
1:22 classic when you say NO to a chick
in comics he is much more complicated than that.
Yes
true
o. ty
You don't think *this* is complicated enough?
Her reasoning "maybe if I am bitchy enough it will change the nature of reality."
It's because our time is limited as humans that's makes it worthwhile. Because every moment counts with how fragile life is. That's why I'd rather be human than Dr. Manhattan. Like Achilles said, the Gods envy us!
Umm, no
@@jaylucas8352 Yes , for me
@@jaylucas8352 LMAO
@@jaylucas8352 😂😂😂😂
The fake gods do because they act more human the real God would never envy us because he is the one who truly know right and wrong and the truth of everything till this very day humans are ignorant, arrogant, prideful and REALLY think they have the answers to things in life believing God does not exist without any proof either and believing seeing is believing despite being proven wrong and the list can go on forever as to why humans no one will envy including humans. The ones destroying the world and truly dont cherish life are humans while God cherishes life and gives us what we need to do right and end the wrongs and we still chose evil he gave us free will and we choose to do wrong regardless of teaching us why things need to be a particular way and we choose not to see the full picture of things instead we choose to only understand what we want too and choose our way which is flawed we only see as much as we know but we nitpick what we want to learn even dr manhanttan learned miracles exist because he was seeing things through his understanding which was not perfect because he was human and despite seeing things differently now he still thought like a human and realised how he was not see the impossible is possible and it was all around him proving he is far from a true God as a true God would of known that already but he saw things not from a creators point of view but from the created.
So many people in these comments seem to lack the ability to understand this guy.
Because they refuse to see things from his perspective.
@@dzungpham i understand it
what if i came to this (his) state? random q. i know its just a showoff to even ask that but what if? then what now
Because he refuses to see things from our perspective
Bruh I knew about this movie , but I never watched this
I randomly found this clip in a video
when I heard "Imo life is highly overrated phenomenon"
I have already come to this conclusion after understanding antinatalism
and Evolution
I love how he just couldn't care less or can't be bothered to save humanity 😂
I used to think he made a giant clock, but now I think the floating star clock might be the illustration of how angels are described in the Bible, or just a pretty atom maybe
I always figured it was some super complicated mathematical structure that allows for perfect momentum changes and other ways of moving through space. Made sense since it would be something he just knows will work meanwhile I’m scratching my head.
There may be layers upon layers of this character, but I think he was written to be passive simply because the comic would be one page long otherwise. "And then bold go-getter Dr. Manhattan snapped his fingers and all nuclear weapons on earth instantly turned to candy. Humanity was saved and the dentists soon got tons of work." I am a simple idiot and regard him as a warning that if you passively sleepwalk through life, some "friend" like the genius in the movie will use you to do much mischief, whatever his reasons. The battle of life is to the vigilant, the active, the brave, they can easily outperform a sulking giant.
Laurie is a great example of humanity.
Great example of terrible acting
@@ironclockGreat example of a horseshit opinion that no one agrees with.
Great character created
ah man, u cut out the best part when she realizes that her entire life was a joke.
That Rover looks like an Angel
he probably shouldn't even have to blink
When you’re right, you’re right.
he tripping i’m worth something
Jon is constantly living in the big picture.
This i how I imagine the voice of Rorscach in the movie. Monotone and without empathy.
Oscar Blue lol maybe a little more aggressive/masculine but that edgefest of a voice he got the film is like the kinda shit edgy eliot rodgers love 😂😂😂😂😂
man he's like an edgy teen
hurrdurr25 or someone who's intelligent
dr manhattan is an idiot lol. he said that there is no god but there is a god in DC universe
Guy that fell off his horse let's not talk about that..
Guy that fell off his horse this isnt the normal DC universe , watchmen are separate , so there might not be a god there . And even if he was wrong that does not make him an idiot , if being wrong once is all it takes to be an idiot there is not a single human who is not an idiot .
Yeah Snyder is an edgelord incarnate so it checks out
What cut is this extended scene from?
Rips out his heart then asks him to save the world.
You believe he was just "offended" or some shit? This guy doesn't care.
Dr Manhattan is, without a doubt, an INTP
Existence of self-aware, sentient life is a very rare phenomenon. Like non-binary stars or planets with a solid core. Cosmos created a part of cosmos that is trying to appreciate and comprehend it. Not highly overrated.
Only what can happen... does happen...
When you realize John is right
Bet Yoda could give him a run for his money. 🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣😂😆
who sees the face at .55 seconds?
I agree with doctor manhattan.
You can’t expect a human to understand the thinking of a God.
Humans can't understand the thinking of humans much less a imaginary superstitious magic invisible soul collector. 😵
Wait am I god then
are you god then
dr Manhattan is like tripping 00:58
I mean, he's not wrong. This is what i mean when i saw humanity fails to accept objective reality. They refer to it as "bullshit".
Being human means never being 100% objective.
So tell me, how would all of this be greatly improved by an oil pipeline, by a shopping mall?
Doing good for the sake of doing good is well enough reason to do good. ☯️
Dr. Manhattan is the embodiment of every quantum potentiality (field). His perspective and experience with reality is vastly beyond anything we can understand.
I think the disappointing part about his character was to make someone so beyond anything else, but then have him used as plot twist to punctuate the premise, which was swayed in favour of a morality tale.
All of it is just a concept in our head..we catch and go on and take actions being driven by some, also we just flick aside some... But what makes us decide what to fick aside or what to catch on.. a certain state of our 'own' reality making us feel either it's the best option for myself or for the things that i care about... and there we think we are all aware of ourselves.
"We are all puppets of reality, only I can see the strings."
I was never wrong
So what happens in DC Doomsday clock? What did you do?
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But can Nite Owl triple penetrate her like Dr.Manhattan?
Not like my boy
LOLOL that nigga got no flavor *gets vaporized a second later* LOLOL
Louis Constantine even in Ozy’s lair, especially after learning that millions have died
Yet at the end hes sees how miracles do exist he has all that power but ended up with the typical human blindness of missing out on the full picture of existence itself of anything and being ignorant and arrogant because hes strong i love that he fifured out eventually it shows that human aspect he still has of not being able to see or know it all
That makes sense because he started being human and still has a human shape to some degree, that comes with human emotions and lack of coherent decisions even if he knows the consequences of such decisions.
At the same time, he has evolved so much that he has lost touch with humanity and can no longer feel......
Toe rings 🧜🏾♀️⛵️
"Do that thing you do. " lol wtf
Dr Manhattan is basically Henry Rollins
is this from the movie or a tv show? i dont remember seeing this scene
He's clear an shes human.
Miracle is like a sec grant of hope to the infinite universes hoping someone may hear.
The gift of understanding an seeing the infinite is like a curse because they don't see and they probably never will.
They can't see
People put themselves at the centre of the universe.
1:45 What is the melody?
Sure I’ll let this be your ion bible
Only that can happen,
Will happen....
He sees ravines and mountains ripple across the landscape like an ocean current. 10.000 years on earth is an absolute chaos of possibilities compared. The moment the interference happened it gave him equal peace and concern. Concern he might prefer the extinction because of the peace it provided. Like a visual tinitus. In the end nothing changes, the chaos exists but humanity lives. So he gladly nopes out.
From a constructive perspective, a mall is a place designated so that humans can spend their time (life) and money (effort) by buying things that they dont really need, so that they get a sense of fulfillment, and stop complaining, or just getting them out of the way of the ones in power, so his example is to just point that out. We could try and make a list of how many horrible things humans created, but this is still up there.
ASMR
still no match for my Very best loving Almighty God
"The Universe will not even notice."
Thank you Dr. Obvious the universe is inanimate. Mars does not notice itself. By your logic it lacks worth.
+Jeffrey Licano this was a joke right
No I genuinely think that he made a stupidly poetic andover used argument. I hear people say things like "The universe is so vast and massive, what sense does it make that this tiny dot has any worth?" They use that argument to justify nihilism and it really does not make any sense.
First of all.. when he said "notice" he didn't mean it literally. It was figurative speech to say that even if a couple of humans die, nothing else in the universe is affected even slightly. I assume that you MUST have known that and you were just nitpicking.
Secondly, how does that argument not make sense to you? The only point of people valuing things is that they put themselves or something else at the center and make it out to be vastly important. If there is an entire existence outside of one's life that would exist whether one lived or died, what then is the value of one's life? If everything you do is more or less insignificant to a majority of existence, why would there be any value in it?
Brandon Barnes I obviously knew that I was criticizing his figurative argument.
I reject the premise that worth only comes from the thoughts of human beings. If you think that you are going against the intellectual positions of most of the great thinkers for most of human history. The burden of proof is on you.
Secondly, I think your oddly arguing against yourself. If value only comes from people putting themselves at the center, then why is "the majority of existence" important at all. It is inanimate. It won't change much because you die but you will change a lot when you are dead vs being alive. And also "majority of existence" is a weird term to use. Your simply saying that "greater amounts of matter mean more than lesser amounts of matter". But whose to say that life is not inherently valuable? Who's to say that puny human whose death will not affect a galaxy is in fact more valuable than the galaxy because he is a thinking and feeling being. What if it is the galaxies and cosmic events that are meaningless, because humans don't even notice. Or possibly there is something or someone greater than humans that determines worth. Whatever the case, it is kind of silly to automatically assume that humans are worthless because it doesn't affect the universe as a whole.
+Brandon Barnes And also, I personally never valued my own life or anyone elses because I thought we were the center of the universe. I was under no illusions that my life or death would expand the life cycle of the sun, or would stop the formation of planets and stars, but I still value my own life and the lives of others for reasons independent of that. So I think that the idea that the idea that the only point of value is to make something hugely important and the center is kind of bogus. Heck sometimes I even value things that are not even at the center of my own life. I value a piece of art not because I am pridefully trying to make it vastly important.
murphy's law
Missle flying coffinmmakers
Doesn't he have a contract with the Blue Guys?
And it ends with her in tears.
"Miracles by their definition are meaningless"
Except Miracles by their very definition are the most meaningful.
What is this movie?
Miracles are supernatural. Supernatural things do not exist. Something that does not exist cannot have meaning.
Vision would hate this guy
Aaaaaaaaaaand end scene!
Asked her how humanity could positively affect the planet and in typical human fashion she rebutted with an incompetent question.
I’m a university of Florida cover up let me blow up already
Insignificant and phenomenon in the same sentence.
Make your mind up mate.
Its all good
I don't understand why silver specter is in this movie except to get on Dr.Manhattan nerves what is her power anyway?
She is not afraid 😳.they all say the same 😂...
Yay galaxy
Life is death 💀
"Just stop with your bullshit"
Typical human line
indeed
Why are you speaking as if you're not human? Lmao
Dr. Manhattan was such a troll of this scene and I like it. If I was Dr. Manhattan, I would save everyone expect for Silk and Nite Owl lol
Dr Manhattan is Apollo or Horus the bluebird of death
Thr problem with dr Manhattan is that all the depressed edgelords sincerely identify with him and think that therefore they're also all-knowing misunderstood beings instead of sad, psychologically lazy, volcels
Which movie is this.... Someone tell me please
mahendra Kumar watchmen
so how come i say bebye, since i know who i am?
now we know where Elon gets his inspiration from
"What can happen, will happen" Murphy's Law ....yeah lets reword it so it sounds dope AND original
When you're trying to seem smart, make sure you have the correct quote. "Only what can happen does happen" has a very different meaning from what you wrote
"It was named in a book somewhere before, therefore if you say something similar you are just unoriginal."
Well Murphy’s Law is “Anything that can happen will happen” but they have been variations of it before and after him.
Do that thing you do?
no
The only way to truly understand how dr manhatten feels is to take like 5 grams of mushrooms. He is right. Our insignificance in the universe is so obvious in everyday life yet our ego personalize it and try to give it meaning when in fact. We are as insignificant as the ground we step on everyday. Our planet is as insignificant as the solar system its houser within. The scale not just in width but in time of everything is so huge it makes everything kinda pointless. My ego is trying to bring down to ground as I type this. It does have meaning. Its all happening. Is it
Says Mars works fine without any life there (even though there is bacteria or some shit there) and then tries to undermine his argument about living beings by enumerating inanimate objects such as pipelines. You what mate?
Ooo they imagine their GOD... 🤣🤣