Super tricky vocal to work with as the jazzy style creates so many variances in the performance and words sliding into each other. Cool to see the effects working with each other to fix issues
Hi Alexander, amazing video and awesome you are working in Luna and have a sphere mic. I need some help. Yesterday I recorded with my DLX sphere a vocalist. I wanted to use melodyne to tune the vocals which it does, however, I notice the Sphere plug in, the microphone I chose, doesn't work anymore. When I want to change the mic or even want to change the settings in the plug in nothing responds, it is like melodyne took over. When I put the melodyne above the plug in I get an alert that the mic isn't calibrated. So, isn't this possible? UAD said it does work perfectly when place the melodyne in the first slot and the sphere plug in after, but it doesn't with me....I see you bounced the track with the chosen mic, however, here is another question, you can see in the original that the stereo of the original has one signal from the front of the mic and the bottom one the back which I guess gives it a nice quality - when you bounce the track and bring it back in the stereo volume is equal. Doesn't that change the character compared to the original? When the original comes into my vocal bus it does enter the track equally. Another thought is that melodyne grabs the track mono, doesn't that change the character of the original recorded stereo track? I think I hear a difference, however, the mind can play tricks on your ears 🙂- I presume you, like me, tried many ways to tune vocals using the sphere mic, so I love to hear your mind about how you do it in this video is the only way to do it, or that it is possible to put melodyne on the same original vocal track and make it work...Thanks in advance
Hey there! Well firstly, thank you for watching the video! It’s great to have you here! So, I can definitely shed some light on what’s going on for you with Melodyne. Basically, the plugin “takes over” anything before it. So in LUNA right now, if you have any plugin before Melodyne, then use Melodyne’s Capture to import audio into it for tuning, the only thing you’ll ever hear play back is Melodyne’s audio from the plugin onwards - so you’re quite right in that anything you change in the plugin chain before Melodyne will indeed do absolutely nothing! This also causes issues with moving or editing your regions on the timeline. If you’ve imported it into the Melodyne plugin and tuned something, then move a region, you’ll notice that the audio will still play back in its original position. The most natural workflow is to decide on a mic setting before tuning, as then you’ll never have Melodyne interacting or interfering with Sphere. Once you’ve done your tuning, export and then reimport the now committed Melodyne tuning and you won’t have Melodyne messing around with this “taking over” stuff it does. Also, to explain about the stereo file and the two sides of the audio. When you capture audio with Sphere raw, you’ll absolutely see the top part larger (front of the mic) and the bottom part smaller (rear) assuming the sound source is in front of the mic. You then use Sphere, but if you then export audio afterwards, you’ll notice the two sides of the stereo file look the same. That is because the Sphere plugin is dual mono. So although the front and back stereo signal goes into the mic, what comes out is actually a mono signal - or as we’ll call it, dual mono.
Actually, my monitor is kind of small. It’s just a 1080p, 21” by Phillips. I’m lucky because I have control surfaces in front of me, so I need to look at the screen a lot less than if you’re using keyboard and mouse alone.
That raw vocal is almost as bad as my singing. In other words: unfixable. You haven't succeeded in making a silk purse out of sow's ear here, but you have done a detailed tutorial on tuning. Thnks.
Thanks Alex, best explaining Melodyne ever
Thank you very much! I’m really glad you enjoyed the video!
Thank you so much for this 💯
My pleasure!! Thank you!
EPIC!!!
Thank you!! ☺️
You are AWESOME!
Thank you for your tutorials
My pleasure! Thank you for watching!
Super tricky vocal to work with as the jazzy style creates so many variances in the performance and words sliding into each other.
Cool to see the effects working with each other to fix issues
Hi Alexander, amazing video and awesome you are working in Luna and have a sphere mic. I need some help. Yesterday I recorded with my DLX sphere a vocalist. I wanted to use melodyne to tune the vocals which it does, however, I notice the Sphere plug in, the microphone I chose, doesn't work anymore. When I want to change the mic or even want to change the settings in the plug in nothing responds, it is like melodyne took over. When I put the melodyne above the plug in I get an alert that the mic isn't calibrated. So, isn't this possible? UAD said it does work perfectly when place the melodyne in the first slot and the sphere plug in after, but it doesn't with me....I see you bounced the track with the chosen mic, however, here is another question, you can see in the original that the stereo of the original has one signal from the front of the mic and the bottom one the back which I guess gives it a nice quality - when you bounce the track and bring it back in the stereo volume is equal. Doesn't that change the character compared to the original? When the original comes into my vocal bus it does enter the track equally. Another thought is that melodyne grabs the track mono, doesn't that change the character of the original recorded stereo track? I think I hear a difference, however, the mind can play tricks on your ears 🙂- I presume you, like me, tried many ways to tune vocals using the sphere mic, so I love to hear your mind about how you do it in this video is the only way to do it, or that it is possible to put melodyne on the same original vocal track and make it work...Thanks in advance
Hey there! Well firstly, thank you for watching the video! It’s great to have you here!
So, I can definitely shed some light on what’s going on for you with Melodyne. Basically, the plugin “takes over” anything before it. So in LUNA right now, if you have any plugin before Melodyne, then use Melodyne’s Capture to import audio into it for tuning, the only thing you’ll ever hear play back is Melodyne’s audio from the plugin onwards - so you’re quite right in that anything you change in the plugin chain before Melodyne will indeed do absolutely nothing! This also causes issues with moving or editing your regions on the timeline. If you’ve imported it into the Melodyne plugin and tuned something, then move a region, you’ll notice that the audio will still play back in its original position.
The most natural workflow is to decide on a mic setting before tuning, as then you’ll never have Melodyne interacting or interfering with Sphere. Once you’ve done your tuning, export and then reimport the now committed Melodyne tuning and you won’t have Melodyne messing around with this “taking over” stuff it does.
Also, to explain about the stereo file and the two sides of the audio. When you capture audio with Sphere raw, you’ll absolutely see the top part larger (front of the mic) and the bottom part smaller (rear) assuming the sound source is in front of the mic.
You then use Sphere, but if you then export audio afterwards, you’ll notice the two sides of the stereo file look the same.
That is because the Sphere plugin is dual mono. So although the front and back stereo signal goes into the mic, what comes out is actually a mono signal - or as we’ll call it, dual mono.
Hmmmm.... Your computer video monitor seems as though it may be huge... may I ask which model you are using? I am actually shopping for one.
Actually, my monitor is kind of small. It’s just a 1080p, 21” by Phillips. I’m lucky because I have control surfaces in front of me, so I need to look at the screen a lot less than if you’re using keyboard and mouse alone.
Good stuff. It created a LOT of work where she could have just sung the whole song in a higher key.
That raw vocal is almost as bad as my singing. In other words: unfixable. You haven't succeeded in making a silk purse out of sow's ear here, but you have done a detailed tutorial on tuning. Thnks.