I love the way Dershowitz immediately retreats to 'I'll have you know I plagiarised accurately good sir - how dare you insinuate I didn't copy that quote precisely'.
Well, you can't plagiarize a quote it's a quote, so that's why he's hung up on a possible error because a duplicate error would prove it's plagiarizing the source with the original error. But Finkelstein is ahead of him by noting the exact same use of ellipses, meaning that it isn't just using the same quote it's copy-pasting it from Joan Peters
@@cyberninjazero5659 On top of that, Joan Peters seems to have a peculiar fascination with ellipses and uses them liberally to butcher many quotes (an example from the relevant Twain quote: "Stirring scenes like these occur in this valley no more." is quoted by Peters -- and by extension Dershowitz, as: "Stirring scenes . . . occur in the valley [Jezreel] no more."). Peters uses seven such ellipses in this quote, including one indicating omission of more than 50 pages, and they are reproduced exactly in Dershowitz's work. However, Dershowitz never cites Peters. The only mention of Peters in Dershowitz's book occurs in Chapter 1, Footnote 31 to note that "Peters’s conclusions and data have been challenged . . . I do not in any way rely on them in this book.", which is a blatant lie. He clearly relied heavily on Peters for historical research. Aside from the Twain quote, there is another long quote by a British Consul in Dershowitz's book that is reproduced exactly with the same ellipses as Peters's. Additionally, there are 18 more known overlapping quotes and citations. It is beyond doubt that Dershowitz tried to pass the scholarship of Joan Peters, of all people, as his own.
Dude think. I know the durš is a buffoon and a criminal, but he's not saying that out of the blue. Having the same quote wouldn't be plagiarism (unless it's in the context of more plagiarised material), so he's saying "so what, is there a mistake in both my version of the quote and the one I'm supposedly plagiarising that makes it unique compared to it just being a random quote?"
@@bacicinvatteneaca Yes, I'm aware that simply quoting is not plagiarism. I'm not sure you quite understood my comment. I was noting the comedic premise being wonderfully played out. A normal person might object to being charged with plagiarism - but Dershowitz is proud that he copied everything precisely. It's kinda like a mass murderer being charged with 10 murders shouting out - '10? How dare you - I killed 20!'
@@bacicinvatteneaca Hilariously enough, that's actually the case. Aside from _the ellipses_, there's also a typographical error in the Twain quote that he copied and did not cite properly. I wrote a longer comment about the plagiarism in this thread but for some reason it's hidden.
The youtube algorithm didn't just deliver gold, it has introduced me to my new favorite genre of music! Finkelstein's attention to detail is legendary. Absolutely brilliant job, thank you for brightening my day!
I... this is... AMAZING. I didn't know this needed to exist until it did. I am loving the "musical rendition of semi-obscure academic debates" series. Please keep them coming. The extent to which this made my day is almost impossible to convey.
The songwriter missed Norm's best sarcastic joke. I think it went something like: I read the Joan Peters book 4 times, no, 5 - because I read yours too.
Oh man, this is quite brilliant. This really makes it quite plainly obvious the silliness of mr D’s arguments. I think we need to hear all the relevant debates this way and it will be interesting easier to consume and display where the real substance is. It literally nullifies debate strategies.
This is absolutely magnificent. I haven't laughed until I cried for YEARS until today. "WIIIITH THE ELLIPSES, IN THE SAME PLACES!" Masterfully done. 😂😂😂
My daughter asked me why this is funny and I told her because it takes something awful (by definition anything involving Dershowitz) and turns it into something that makes you smile.
Mr. Borelli has been real quiet since this dropped.
MISTER BONNELLI
No, it’s Mr. Spinelli
Who's Borelli?
@@ChrisAlbertH47 Borelli is Destiny, finkelstein constantly got his name wrong in a debate on lex friedman's channel couple months ago
@@goa5138 Oh, ok. Don't know about Destiny much either except for mentions. Thanks.
Those cowards will never put this on Broadway
Because the public is dying to see the great Dershowitz-Finkelstein debates
That would be antisemitic 😂
@@someone-w9n if today’s Jew haters were transported back to the early 1940s, they’d say Hitler was just being critical and asking questions.
@@someone-w9nyeah they would say that unironically
WIIIIIIITH THE ELLIPSES 🎤😫
In the same places~~
The identical quote from Twain
It's in my head, too. With the ellipses in the same same places! Love it.
Let me finish, Mr. Dershowitz 🎶
dershowitz was a client and friend on ep stein - enough said.
Such a banger
This is the most niche content i have ever consumed
A Norman Finkelstein voice would've made this like 10 times better but 8,000 times harder to sing, I bet.
The musical slows down every time Finkelstein speaks 😂
😂
norm finkelstein is the goat but also he gives only human guy in a muppet movie who is exasperated he us surrounded by Muppets.
this is a compliment
@@crohnsieasmr1912 Now THAT is a Broadway show!
@@AisuruMirai make it happen!
If I was a lawyer, I would use a slightly different choice of words than "I'm not a litigious person."
😂😂😂😂😂
Coming here from Finkelstein Twitter. I think he approves 🎉
😂
I love the way Dershowitz immediately retreats to 'I'll have you know I plagiarised accurately good sir - how dare you insinuate I didn't copy that quote precisely'.
Well, you can't plagiarize a quote it's a quote, so that's why he's hung up on a possible error because a duplicate error would prove it's plagiarizing the source with the original error. But Finkelstein is ahead of him by noting the exact same use of ellipses, meaning that it isn't just using the same quote it's copy-pasting it from Joan Peters
@@cyberninjazero5659 On top of that, Joan Peters seems to have a peculiar fascination with ellipses and uses them liberally to butcher many quotes (an example from the relevant Twain quote: "Stirring scenes like these occur in this valley no more." is quoted by Peters -- and by extension Dershowitz, as: "Stirring scenes . . . occur in the valley [Jezreel] no more."). Peters uses seven such ellipses in this quote, including one indicating omission of more than 50 pages, and they are reproduced exactly in Dershowitz's work.
However, Dershowitz never cites Peters. The only mention of Peters in Dershowitz's book occurs in Chapter 1, Footnote 31 to note that "Peters’s conclusions and data have been challenged . . . I do not in any way rely on them in this book.", which is a blatant lie. He clearly relied heavily on Peters for historical research. Aside from the Twain quote, there is another long quote by a British Consul in Dershowitz's book that is reproduced exactly with the same ellipses as Peters's. Additionally, there are 18 more known overlapping quotes and citations. It is beyond doubt that Dershowitz tried to pass the scholarship of Joan Peters, of all people, as his own.
Dude think. I know the durš is a buffoon and a criminal, but he's not saying that out of the blue. Having the same quote wouldn't be plagiarism (unless it's in the context of more plagiarised material), so he's saying "so what, is there a mistake in both my version of the quote and the one I'm supposedly plagiarising that makes it unique compared to it just being a random quote?"
@@bacicinvatteneaca
Yes, I'm aware that simply quoting is not plagiarism.
I'm not sure you quite understood my comment. I was noting the comedic premise being wonderfully played out. A normal person might object to being charged with plagiarism - but Dershowitz is proud that he copied everything precisely. It's kinda like a mass murderer being charged with 10 murders shouting out - '10? How dare you - I killed 20!'
@@bacicinvatteneaca Hilariously enough, that's actually the case. Aside from _the ellipses_, there's also a typographical error in the Twain quote that he copied and did not cite properly. I wrote a longer comment about the plagiarism in this thread but for some reason it's hidden.
The youtube algorithm didn't just deliver gold, it has introduced me to my new favorite genre of music! Finkelstein's attention to detail is legendary. Absolutely brilliant job, thank you for brightening my day!
Finkelstein's attention to detail is legendarily poor or purely fraudulent to fool foolish people
WIIIIIITH THE ELIPSEEEEES!!!!
In the same places!
The identitcal quote from Twain
A day later after hearing it, I'm walking around my house, hearing that line sung in my head!!!
Omg my algorithm done hooked me up 😂😂😂
Fr! I didn’t know YT had it in them, tbh.
Same 😂😂😂
Me toooooooo!
Amazing! You are gifted in so many ways. Do one with Bassem vs. Piers Morgan.
I subbed:)
I... this is... AMAZING. I didn't know this needed to exist until it did. I am loving the "musical rendition of semi-obscure academic debates" series. Please keep them coming. The extent to which this made my day is almost impossible to convey.
3:14 *_WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTHTH the ellipseeeeeeeeesss_* goes so hard omg
"with the elipses!" Line makes me think this could go on radio and get onto the charts 😂
This channel is the single best thing the algorithm has pushed to me
Now I really want to see a full musical called "Finkelstein!". I never would have have imagined that before seeing this video.
I don't know what just happened but I loved every second of it
This is perfect and I don’t even like musicals
Good God. sir, this is fantastic!
(With the ellipsis).
The subject head is hilarious. And then you follow through! 😂😂😂
I feel like political debates/discussions would be more digestible like this. Excellent job.
Oh my goodness, a musical of Norman and Alan.....i feel so undeserving and grateful lol great work!!!
This one is a classic and you did it justice, thanks that was a significant addition to my day.
Went and watched the full thing after this. Perfect bar for bar. Amazing.
Broadway version should star Adam Friedland as Norm Finkelstein
This is a sumptuous feast, and it made my day
The songwriter missed Norm's best sarcastic joke. I think it went something like: I read the Joan Peters book 4 times, no, 5 - because I read yours too.
This is sooooo brilliant! I hope Mr Finkelstein manages to see it.
I hope the Dersh sees it too!
This is the best thing I've seen on RUclips in a very long time--and I've a paid subscription.
Brilliant.
this is really good, it allows me to watch this in a digestible format
Oh...you definitely have to do a longer version 😂
This is beautiful and I crave more
The Chrismannukah gift we all needed
Oh man, this is quite brilliant. This really makes it quite plainly obvious the silliness of mr D’s arguments. I think we need to hear all the relevant debates this way and it will be interesting easier to consume and display where the real substance is. It literally nullifies debate strategies.
This is so fucking good. The music, the representation of the debate, the acting.
This is absolutely magnificent. I haven't laughed until I cried for YEARS until today. "WIIIITH THE ELLIPSES, IN THE SAME PLACES!" Masterfully done. 😂😂😂
Holy shit dude this is amazing
3:32 Slay the ellipses!
God will bless you for this!
I found this video yesterday. Today alone I have watched it five times
My favorite song for December 2024. 😊 With the ellipses! With the ellipses in the same places !
I hereby declare that ... all comments for this ... delightful video include ... ellipses.
Vote for me to pass legislation that from now on all debates must be sung
dare someone to create a petition!
Yo I was so bummed this was only four minutes long. Please please please do the whole debate. This is fucking awesome.
It’s so fantastic, and I subscribed it. Good work.
This is beautiful
I would pay to watch that!
My daughter asked me why this is funny and I told her because it takes something awful (by definition anything involving Dershowitz) and turns it into something that makes you smile.
And because it so accurately depicts Norm's brilliance! :) He has every nuance of Norm's body postering and eye movement down PERFECTLY!
LOL I just wish there was more of this. Very well done.
Fantastic! Citizen Kane ovation from me!
Dersh really isn't a litigious person, you know haha
I think we are at the point where most political zionist talking points can be explained with a song or hello kitty meme so this is incredible
This is brilliant
This is brilliant! Bravo bravo 👏👏
❤ Amy Goodman
I love how the note on "book" just descends directly into Fiddler on the Roof lololol.
You gotta do Norman Finkelstein v. Mr. Morelli,
That gave me a smile. Thanks!
Good job man. I subscribed 😂😂
Id like to take responsibility for a solid 1k of your views on this. Youre a gem!
This is brilliant. Subscribed for sure. It gives me hope for 2025.
Please god do more of these
This is freakin incredible
This is absolute gold
I hope to god that Finkelstein sees this.
My good sir, you have earned a subscription..
I generally can't stand musicals but bravo! Very well done!
Subscribed!
Amazing... So good I've had to comment twice 🎉
Chomsky vs Harris please, the email debate “ The Limits of Discourse”
You nailed it yet again, my friend.
2:13 😂😂😂😂😂 The pause!
GD brilliant bro!!!
This is soooo amazing. Please make one with Finkelstein and destiny please I'm begging you.
This is such a bop
loving this on repeat❤
This is amazing!
This is actually incredible lmao
My algorithm is doing its job. Yeeeeees (*Palpatine voice*)
This is fantastic!! Can't believe this doesn't have more views
I too double-majored in poli sci and theater
This amazing.
Never let your students write your books.
Amazing.
i’m telling my kids this is wicked
This is amazing. Thank you so much for doing and sharing.
"With the ellipses!" -- great use of transcript, animating assiduous scholarship (Finkelstein's)
Oh geez that’s good music therapy.
Me annoying my roommates for the past two weeks shouting WIIIITH THE ELLIPSES all day long.
Brilliant is the only word
Fabulous. Ty 😂 I am a Big Norm stan.
Not to be dramatic or anything, but I would die for Norm Finkelstein.
Me too
When zionism is defeated this should make in on broadway. Thank you for showcasing your talent for such a great cause.
You will have over 100k by 2026 if you keep this format, develop it, and consistently post. Mark my words.
I LOVE THIS
Whenever someone uses legalistic terms like "unequivocally" when denying anything invariably means they're guilty as sin. It's a tic
Dude, you gotta go on Bad Hasbara.
Great stuff
Requesting Finkelstein vs Destiny / Mr. Borelli!!
Why do I have to laugh so hard at this!???!😂
This is great
This is so amazing 😭😭