Did Raiders Of The Lost Ark Steal From Uncle Scrooge?
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- An examination of a piece of comic book trivia that’s been reported as being confirmed.
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DVD Extra - The Making Of Raiders. (Discussion of the boulder scene begins at 17:00.)
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Transcript of George Lucas, Steve Spielberg and Lawrence Kasdan. (Spielberg mentions the boulder idea on Page 11.)
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Steven Spielberg discusses the boulder scene. November 1981.
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There is a short mention from Spielberg that Scrooge McDuck is one of his most favorite characters, from the documentary "The Scrooge Mystery". However, he appears REALLY short time, and I remember that he doesn't mention the famous Raiders scene.
There’s also another interesting conspiracy theory that suggest the plot from Christopher Nolan’s Inception was stolen from another Duck Tales comic that involves the duck triplets entering their uncles dreams in order to unlock the combination of a secret vault filled with buried treasure.
To be a little clear, its a Don Rosa comic, it was Donald who entered the dream and the inspiration, while not implausible, its unverified...
I honestly think you have found the perfect jingle that plays at the beginning of your videos, I always know I'm for a treat when I hear it. did you make it yourself, or is it from something in particular? Either way I think you're one of the best comic channels that's currently active.
I cannot take credit for the opening jingle. It's Abbey Cadence (Sting) by Twin Musicom. It was found lying around in the freebie music pile on RUclips.
I love it so much, it brings peaces and tranquility
True! I love it. (My brother hates it tho HARHARHAR!)
@@devangoad agreed. It really does set the tone for these videos.
You've been programmed
Lucas & Speilberg were born in the mid 40s. They can claim lineage from the serials. I was born in 1960. If I had made that movie, I would have to admit Barks' influence. Most likely, both are true.
Honestly, those comics were great.
If you look up "The Scrooge Mystery" on youtube you will find Steven Spielberg saying "Uncle Scrooge McDuck was one of my favorite characters as a kid" so it may be true
I will look into this! Thank you. You wouldn't have a link handy, would you?
@@StrangeBrainParts here ruclips.net/video/23lNNGXRerA/видео.html
Thank you!
A visual reference to Spa Fon and a mention of a famous Hitchhiker's Guide quote? Congratulations! Your geek license will be extended another two years!
Whew! It was coming up for renewal and I wasn't sure if I'd qualify again.
Perfect video, as usual. As you said, rumors and coincidences don't always lead to an undeniable fact, even though many people would like to believe so.
This went deeper into the rabbit hole than I expected. The entire Indy series is a slight homage to Uncle Scrooge IMHO. Spielberg and Lucas have both stated that the series was inspired by the old movie serials of the 30s and 40s so there is that as well. This a was a great piece of amateur journalism. Don’t sell yourself short
Thank you! Yes, I've heard/read it was an overall homage to the spirit of Uncle Scrooge. It just vexes me that I can't find any confirmation!
R.I.P. Comic Book Resources. That site used to be amazing.
Reminds me of the case that they're 2 Dennis the menace, one from the US and the other from the UK. Love this type of rabbit hole videos.
I *almost* mentioned that in the coincidence portion. Both debuted on almost the same date, if I remember correctly. But...that was going to lead down another rabbit hole. So I thought I'd not distract myself. :)
I always love how much research you put in and speak, i dont comment much but i want you to know i love your new shorts and everything youve done since i found you about 2 years ago now So thank you so much for every video!
Well, thank you very much for watching all this time! I do appreciate that.
If he did, at least Scrooge probably has the insurance to cover the loss
This made me chuckle 😅
Tombs with over the top death traps were a common trope of pulp adventure stories. Which were the major inspiration for the good Doctor Jones
Been down rabbit holes like these pretty recently. Only difference was I was helping spread conjecture till a writer had to give her work email to help clear it up.
Thanks for clearing up some discrepancies with the claims made about the boulder scene! By the way, it’s a bit unrelated but would you ever do a video about Eclipse Comics or Pacific? I was rewatching your First Comics video and thought it would be awesome if you looked at those other two indie publishers, as they seem kinda similar in structure to First Comics and would compliment each other pretty well. Just an idea I guess, but great video as always!
Great video, it strikes me as just a coincidence.
Check out the Scrooge Mystery, it may not give you the answers you want, but it does have Spielberg talking about Scrooge for literally a few seconds before the credits roll...
Thanks!
Thank you very much! Very appreciated.
I remember reading some comics editor, in a seemingly "edgy" (to a teen comics reader) title, commenting how he wished he could edit "Uncle Scrooge" someday, and I thought, "Heh, yeah, Good One!"
Well, I've thought dumber things! 😆
I say sharply researched videos like this *are* your credentials, and damn good ones at that.
And I *am* a journalist!
Thank you very much!
@@StrangeBrainParts I've been wondering: "Legit" journos are required to contact everyone and confirm everything; get a "no comment" if nothing else. Online folks seem to think that people won't take their calls, even now when they probably have a bigger audience than their print counterparts. Would you say that's true?
After all that research, you deserver a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster, ya know?
That's a damn fine idea.
This seems like a similar claim that was made that The Lion King was a rip off of Kimba. But when you start digging deeper into it you'll find inaccuracies and hearsay just to get a quick clickbait article.
Ah, yes! That's a rumour I've heard repeated quite a few times. But I've never looked into it to investigate its validity.
I haven't seen it yet but there was the Scrooge Mystery Documentary with Spielberg
I'm of the school of thought that George neither stole or borrowed. He was a kid that was ' inspired ' I don't like that there are some a-holes that go on a tangent about how George got ideas. He was a thinker, not a theif. Theives find fault in everything that meets the eye. I've given the superhero genre heady thinking and all superheroes after superman can be called rip-offs or outright copies of this epic. But if all the ins and outs that have been worked out by different artists and writers in different 'stories' about a heavy taking out the criminality in this fu-×÷//__cked up social order were considered duplicates of Clark Kent, then we're all just duplicates of an intense western that's trying to condemn us all for just being. There lies the hidden truth of Raiders. That despite technicalities, there was a story there that had to be introduced before the entire play could be revealed. In the Era this movie came out moon knight was just becoming a popular marvel character, tutankamens treasures were touring the world. It was a different age.
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Quite a curious anecdote, indeed.
On a side note, I've always loved the character of Scrooge McDuck and his globetrotting adventures. However, I have only watched the original Ducktales cartoon (and a little bit of the newer one).
I'm really interested in reading the classic comic book series.
Do you have any suggestions on where to begin or if there is some kind of TPB, hardcover or omnibus collection that could be a good start?
By the way, excellent video. 👍🏻👍🏻
Excellent. I'll give it a try. Thanks Connor.
@Connor suggested exactly what I was going to suggest.
@@StrangeBrainParts Then it's settled. Let's see what I can find. 👍🏻👍🏻
The hardcover I recommend is Only A Poor Old Man
.... until next time !
This is exactly my kind of video. However, you are lacking a very important piece of information. In “Uncle Scrooge and the Prize of Pizarro,” a strip from 1959, Scrooge and boys raid a South American temple and trigger booby traps such as a protruding blade, a wall of firing spears, and a giant rolling boulder. It seems that this sequence is more directly connected to Raiders than the one in “The Seven Cities of Cibola,” which has probably remained in the public conscious due to its reprinting in that 1981 collection you mention.
I wonder if booby trapped treasure or temples are a recurring theme in Uncle Scrooge? I can't say I'm familiar enough to draw that conclusion/connection.
@@StrangeBrainParts as someone who is familiar, a fair enough amount of Scrooge adventures feature those themes to conclude that Lucas/Spielberg may’ve drawn a similar inspiration from the general series of McDuck comics as they did the general series of adventure serials. Not one story stands out more than another.
@@LearningAboutComics Yes, but could it be a case of Lucas/Spielberg and Barks both drawing their inspiration from the same source, the 30s/40s movie serials?
Thank you for letting me know! I mean, that's a possible avenue of investigation. Whether it was an overall familiarity with the spirit of the Uncle Scrooge adventures (which to my little experience seems very adventure oriented) were the inspiration, rather than one specific issue, as you noted.
Well, it could be both. After all, Raiders and Star Wars contain multiple influences.
I have also heard the Carl Barks Uncle Scrooge comic, "Micro Ducks from outerspace", was used for the movie, "Batteries Not Included ".
I don't know if there is any truth in this.
(I haven't seen the movie, but I do have a copy of the Uncle Scrooge comic.)
Dis you do a video on a "mad" week at marvel comic a while ago? Where aunt may becomes the silver surfer
I did! It was Assistant Editors Month.
ruclips.net/video/IPk6gO1NJsw/видео.html
Lucas and Spielberg love to hear themselves talk so much, I really doubt one of the wouldn’t have spouted off on this topic directly, if it were on their radar at all. I’m going to go with the collective consciousness as an explanation. You know, that Jungian thing.
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If someone's already brought this up, or you're already aware, move along. This is basically more hearsay but it comes from what I would consider an expert witness. When Joe Dante was on Marc Maron's podcast, he talked about how he originally went to college to take illustration classes and become a cartoonist. His favorite books were Carl Bark's Uncle Scrooge comics. And he commented on how when he was hired on to direct a segment of THE TWILIGHT ZONE and GREMLINS, he met with Spielberg, who was also a fan of the Scrooge McDuck comics, and his office was full of original art from Barks. And during the course of the interview, Dante said Spielberg has admitted to him swiping material from the comics, specifically The Seven Cities of Sibola (Sp?), for Raiders of the Lost Ark. Take that for what its worth. Either way, the entire interview is a lot of fun (he shares the episode with John Carpenter) and is available to stream on several outlets. Hope this helps.
-- and have you ever fallen down a SECRET OF THE INCAS (1954) rabbit hole? From the lead's wardrobe to a scene who's mechanics later show up in the Well of the Souls there's some influence there as well. And I don't mean "influence" in a negative sense. But it's there.
I had not heard this! It is, again, hearsay but I'll look into it to see if it leads me to something more tangible.
I did see that connection being made about Raiders and Secret. But I did avoid going into that rabbit hole. It looked pretty deep. :)
This wasn’t on my Strange Brain Parts bingo card. But I’m fascinated nonetheless.
It wasn't ever my intent to do a full-blown video on the topic, that's for sure. Until I hit the rabbit hole and decided, well, now I'm committed. I have to write all this down and make a video.
This was fascinating. Just reminds me to not completely agree with everything you read online.
Very cool topic!
I have to believe that such scenes were originated (perhaps even common place) in the old adventure serials from the 20s, or there abouts. Perhaps Barks work took inspiration from them, or Lucas/Spielberg themselves (weren't C3PO and R2D2 inspired by human characters from Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress?
I assume that it was just inspiration Spielberg or Lucas read as a kid, but I guess not.
TRY FANTASTIC FOUR NUMBER ONE AND MATCH THE STORY LINE OF THE FLY COMIC WITH UNDERGROUND PEOPLE. ALSO CHALLENGERS OF THE UNKNOWN NUMBER 3.
I don’t think this was an intentional “steal”, probably just an impression from seeing the comic that got stuck in the young brain of Lucas and/or Spielberg, which came out decades later as an original idea.
This is the kind of thing that happens with musicians all the time-you think up a melody, spend a bunch of time composing a song around it, later to have someone say “Hey, that sounds just like…” Possibly only then do you recognize the similarities and realize you may have subconsciously borrowed the source melody in your creative processes. But that’s a far cry from an overt rip-off.
All you have to do is watch Star Wars and read some of the great Sci-Fi novels (e.g. Dune) to see how Lucas was heavily influenced by so much that came before him. But he still crafted something original and exciting while standing on the shoulders of giants. There is very little new under the sun.
This was a fun and interesting video! Thanks for sharing, glad it made it past the Shorts status.
I agree with this. And it's how my thinking developed during the writing. Both Spielberg and Lucas have a bunch of influences in their work...and that's not to say it's a negative thing. In fact, both are pretty open about those influences. So, Uncle Scrooge could be an accidental influence (like influences are) as opposed to an actual homage, which implies acknowledgement of the influence and intent to utilize it.
Sadly the modus operandi of modern pop culture journalism especially from valnet sites (the company which owns screen rant, CBR, and a few other pop culture geek sites) seems to be clickbait, sloppy reporting of factoids, and social media fueled rage bait.
Ι think TinTin was as big of an inspiration as Scrooge if not bigger.
Spielberg had no idea what Tintin was until after Raiders of the Lost Ark had come out and people had reported the similarities between them.
6:20 if this isn’t available online, how did you get it?
The transcript is available, but the actual recording isn't.
Screen Rant having questionable reporting? No!
I can accept lies in my mainline news, but when they start lying about stuff like this, there is no hope left for humanity. I'm half serious. In headline news, there is ideologies and politics at play. But stuff like this, is merely about people's interest. If they can't even stop lying for this, then there is no hope. And yeah, yeah, you might have missed something. But if they had that smoking gun, they've used it themselves, and you'd have not missed it. So, if they are not lying, it's by happenstance, not design.
Dude ScreenRant is all bad journalism