@@RotarySMP i have had remarkable luck asking Twitter when i simply can't find something. it's truly awesome to nerd snipe people who know about some specific thing to get answers to unanswerable questions
For many terminals at about this size (molex), your handy discarded cocktail stir straw can do in a pinch. Probably worth having a cocktail... for the straw of coarse.
@@chrisstephens6673 I'd add it saves thousands* of people having to learn the skills, buy the machines etc. Just watch RotarySMP and other like minded video channels. *may actually be just one person.
@@BenMitro I have the machines and a certain level of skills and I still watch, but I'm jealous he has more subscribers than I do, although his are deserved mine are just being kind.😉
Come on, don't lie to yourself, once you finish working on all your machines, there will be another mill/lathe/grinder/shaper/(add more metalworking machine names here) for too good of a price to pass on... It's not like you are better than us in this regard :)
I think the ice cream tub of assorted drills and allen keys may be a universal constant across all workshops the world over 😂 Been really enjoying your suggestions for other channels to watch, I recently came across a guy with a channel called "Machining and Microwaves" - he does high frequency radio type projects, very rarely understand the technical details but it's consistently engaging and great fun to watch.
The good thing about machine tool restoration as a hobby is…once you get deep enough down the rabbit hole, you can make just about anything you need for the hobby. Imagine doing something like restoring a car, and having to buy parts?!?!?
Much like my home electronics lab which is a mix of new and older (1980s+) kit. I've found you need at least two oscilloscopes so you can fix whichever one decides not to work. Similarly I have a spectrum analyser that probably works fine right now since I don't need to use it, but when want it... so I usually budget a couple of extra hours to fix it beforehand. Anyway, thanks for the video, nice to see the nameplate looking clean.
@@RotarySMP Likewise me watching machinist videos and listening to aero stuff :) That era of Tek and HP scopes had great documentation which makes it way easier - getting much harder these days without schematic level detail.
@@robertwatsonbath I was pretty surprised to see how it used to be normal to publish component level schematics (I know that from guitar amps). Imagine Apple doing that.
I love the channel recommendations btw! I rarely find any new creators by scrolling through the "related videos" sidebar, for some reason RUclips mostly recommends me videos I've already watched....
Hello Mark, I think you have defined the next project to restore the Boley lathe and recreate all the possible accessories for it using the Schaublin and Maho... Have a good week and see you next Sunday. Take care. Paul,,
@@TheKnacklersWorkshop It is pretty worn, and is missing the change wheels and banjo. I made up a Nema 34 mount for electronic lead screw. It is also 780kg. Be a bear to move that to the UK.
@@RotarySMP.... and replacement parts, for when the ones you printed before crack from fatigue. Btw cleaning the bed with Isopropanol helps a lot for you prints to stick, however your hairy Benchy looked cool. "Nicht schön aber selten" as we say...
I retired five years ago and took up machining as a hobby. My first "serious" machining project was a working model steam engine. When I proudly show it to anyone they usually say, "That's nice. What do you do with it." Sigh..........
Regarding the connectors, check AMP mate-n-lock series. They look like Molex but they aren't, and the pins (AMP 170363) are quite similar to what you've got.
I just found out I have this type of connector. I have puller that works for them. It has outer diameter 3mm and inner 2mm. It is very tight fit but that might be me using knock-off connectors an running female pins in male casing.
The question about what your making with all this stuff should be more of “what can’t you make with all this stuff?”!! Love the Channel. It’s my Sunday morning, watch in bed, make my wife’s eyes roll favorite
Yes, always a question asked on what do you do with the machines in the shop, well they're more useful than a set of golf clubs , and you can use them every day. Nice eclectic mix 👌 👍. Thanks for sharing.
Making bits for the machines is a perfectly good reason to have them all. After all, you're engaged in machine-tool therapy not profitable manufacturing!!!
Looks like MLX42023 search Farnell for dimensions. Certainly looks like a Molex item. They can be a real pain to track down as there are hundreds of different ranges and many pins are common across multiple products. There are also many other manufacturers making similar looking connectors and using almost identical pins in totally different connectors. Similar pins are also used by Amphenol for one example. The official extractor is usually a brass tube with a plunger in fitted to some sort of plastic or aluminum handle. Some cost hundreds. Your home made one looks good but the wall thickness on the real ones is much thinner. Edit: As others have said, it could also be AMP mate-n-lock series.
Thanks for that. Others have identified it as AMP mate-n-lok. The pin larger diameter seems to be a sliding fit in the housing, so the extractor would need a very thin wall.
I built a mini lathe from scratch, and I'm currently building a milling machine, and I get the "But what are you going to make with them" question all the time. My standard reply is "Whatever I want to make"
read on a woodworking forum "I realised that I have two hobbies, one is tool collecting and the other is woodworking" Living in canada, that places me perilously close to several lee valley stores PS i feel somewhat vindicated by my diagnosis of the hose damage , if for entirely the wrong reason.
Excellent video as usual. I do note that your videos have a lot of inception self-reference going on as to tool making. I started watching a little bit into the mini-lathe conversion and was hooked by the tally board for old parts scrapped, new tools made.
wathing you make so many tools for depining molex, on the other hand i depinned my entire power supplie with two paper clips, man did my fingers hurt at the end, but i still managed to do it.
It's a metal pin....you're welcome! Here is a joke to make me feel better! O'le Bert has been saving for a very long time to afford this beautiful pair of boots. After what seems an eternity he finally went and bought them! Excitedly he wears them home to show the boots off to his missus. He stands in the loungeroom at home and proudly asks...."do you notice anything different about me?" Missus looks him up and down and says "No not really". Well that was not the answer O'le Bert was looking for so he gets mad and takes of all his clothes(except for the boots off course) and angrily says "DO YOU SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT ME NOW!" Missus looks him up and down and says "No not really...... You're wedding tackle is pointed down?" O'le Bert yells " THAT'S BECAUSE IT IS LOOKING AT MY NEW BOOTS!!!!" Missus says" Should've bought a hat Bert...Should've bought an hat!
I enjoyed the stories so much I had to watch making the new adapter twice - Apparently I missed the counterbore operation for the socket head cap screw and was completely confused as to how you rotary broached the hex in the end of the nub. 🤣😂🤣
Little job, but very satisfying result - now it's holding properly against the case :-) There are many pin extractors, but I mostly use a jeweler's thin screwdriver to do it. I guess most hobby machinists mostly do parts and contraptions to use with their machines (and the occasional real repair) - doing more serious work would probably fall outside the hobby :-)
@@RotarySMP I’ve been off YT for a while and haven’t seen your last ones. It’s hard to say concretely but it felt a bit more “upbeat” in a lack of a better word. A bit more humor and faster into the topic at hand. I like the music too. Whatever you’re doing, it’s good :)
I know what you mean about using the machines to fix the machines! The motor drive on my hardinge is still not working. Swopped out the brushes for some from a vacuum cleaner. Now need to modernise the speed controller on the 240v DC motor. I also covet a wider range of 5c collets only have 1/16 " increments and no metric but they don't come up on ebay very often. The manual control of cnc lathe will make it easier to just hop on and make stuff. Did Tony's video persuade you or was it in the plan?
I was in a similar position once, thinking what do I do with the machines I had amassed. Long story short I got more machines... that cured that 🤣. Currently at 5 lathes with 2.5 running. Should keep me from asking that question again for at least another year
@@RotarySMP that sounds like an excellent idea 💡 however I do like your cnc content... maybe I'm biased though I've only 1 manual machine 😅 I'm am yet to see someone tackling a cnc shaper.
@@jonnydeen6952 There are some high end industrial machines which are like a shaper / mill cross over, which drag a tool like a lathe insert cut off tool around a set path, and align the tool the whole way to make some weird shaped grooves.
When I bought my Lathe and Mill, my GF asked me the same thing: what are you going to make with these? You have to come straight out and say: nothing. These are just here to make more parts and tools for the machines. Completely useless. Then, when you make a "useful" part once in a while, it's a positive surprise. It's all about managing expectations.
Few thoughts about what you said in this video: 1st: cracking content as always. Love putting my feet up and watching your stuff, this is 10x better than anything on tv. 2nd: MPG as a handwheel replacement sounds great, but it's not all it's cracked up to be. I have a guildermeister that's like how you expained, and it's great for positioning, but because there's no force to lean into, it's very hard to get a good cut. Most of the time i use the handwheels to position before a cut, then use the feed buttons to actually take it. I can take a picture of the laytout if you like, it works very well. 3rd: What are you going to do once you're done with the lathe? Seems to me like a VMC retrofit is the next logical step :D
Thanks Samuel. I already have a Maho MH400E, which I brain transplanted to LinuxCNC. ruclips.net/video/LXwbRhgq1og/видео.html& Please post a picture of that Guildermeister control set up to the Schaublin retrofit thread here: forum.linuxcnc.org/26-turning/41498-schaublin-125-cnc-retrofit?start=350 I would like to see that.
Always fantastic. Silly question: Is there a philosophy behind using center drills to spot? I know many people do it, and I’ve read you’re not supposed to. What’s your take?
"The role of a center drill is to break off in your work." - Mary Curie I do it because the center drill is there, but my carbide spot drill is a 40 taper mill chuck.
If you like Granit scraping watch this guy ruclips.net/user/WorldofMachines He's Croatian guy living in NZ, who has hand built one of the most accurate CNC routers I have ever seen. All from Granite
waaaaait what do you mean "one lathe" what did you do with our lovely turd after all that polishing ? (oh you talked about it near the end of the vid) "make bits for the machines" is a motto to live by. my normal conversation goes "aw, I wish I could get a maho/shaublin/colchester/... here" "what do you need it for?" somehow they don't get the answer to "refurbish it, or CNC it"
Good point. I dont have 2 lathes, I have three. THe Turd is burried under a pile of our #1 Fan Nico's junk. He came around to use my shed to make some project, and it has gone like the movie Parasite so far :(
This is 2.85mm. I'll check it... ... Just did. In the machine settings-->extruder 1 settings, it is correct at 2.85mm. Could there be another place with the wrong setting?
As for the connector, a major brand will mold their name or trademark into the housing (AMP and Molex surely do, if it is an AMP or Molex, or other Major brand it will say so), on an edge, release clip, or on a tip of the housing (or it's mating housing), and on the terminal near the crimp areas...Did you look? You have a very nice image of the terminal but you did not rotate it for us to see and you also did not show us the housing up-close and multiple angles... As for YOUR custom extractor, you can make all of your measurements from the terminal. YOUR design of extractor will not eject the pin, it will only collapse the locking tabs. Push the wire forward fully, then insert YOUR tab collapsing sleeve over the locking tabs, then pull the wire yourself. Don't forget to re-expand the locking tabs before re-use... Why not just re-do the connectors to something you already have tools and pins and connectors for, or have access to? P.S. Excellent Videos!
There are no markings on this connector body. It is JMC motor and cable, so I am guessing that they use copy mate-n-loc connectors. Thanks for the tip to first push the pin in. Know I have one pin out, I measured it and have a clearer plan how to make the next extractor.
I think there is a certain satisfaction from making tools, parts for machines, etc that you don't get from doing more general projects. Running into a problem and being able to make some specialized tools to tackle it tickles the "self reliance man gene", at least for me.
I hate de-pinning connectors. I once had to de-pin this blind-mating connector in the pedestal of a A330 Lev D sim. No slack in the cable at all... Took 3 hours to de-pin and replace the thing. Scarred for life...
@@RotarySMP That was kinda similar to a ARINC 600 pin field, same kind of density and size but in a floating frame below the thrust levers and with guide pins for blind mating. I had to pull the entire quadrant out and work down in the hole. We only had about 10 pins in use but finding an extractor tool took a while. I had to de-pin them cause there was no slack and I had to get the connector frame out of the way to get in there with a tool to crimp new pins.
@@RotarySMP Those were OEM sins. The point was that the sim was a 330/340 convertible. You swapped the overhead and the quadrant. Thing was that the guide pins were on the removable part of the quadrant and people tended to miss a bit and hit the connector pin (socket actually) field in the pedestal. After 10 years of multiple daily swaps the plastic pin holder had a little crater in it and caused the No. 1 and 4 reverse interlock to fail to release. The OEM put in a blind mating connector but underestimated how blind my colleagues actually were.
Actully molex is a manufacturer. 4:45 (whips out a box) male time. When doing stuff like this how do you know what torque to use? Or is it just you use whatever it the chart torque for whatever size? Because I figure some bolts might need more or less torque than the chart says. The machines I drive need repair all the time and sometimes some bolt might be listed in the spare parts pictures (exactly, spare part pictures, not even proper exploded views.) as having this or that torque.
I did. It is 1.8mm. I forgot to mention that. So again, I need to go and get another drill. The challenge is that the bore seems to also be 1.8mm, so the extractor must be extremely thin walled.
How DARE you have the audacity to ask what I make with all these tools. What do I make with all these tools? I make the world a better place. I make beautiful symphonies of heat and steel. I make my mind work! I make… More tools.
“Don’t know what I’m gonna do with these machines once I’m done with them”. You are an aircraft mechanic, get yourself a surplus apu and rebuild it. Better yet, do a turbo charger to gas turbine conversion and use it to power, I don’t know, an engine lathe? ….. get it….see what I did there? ……. Never mind, I’ll see myself out.
AMP Mini-Universal-Mate-N-Lok Set 15-Polig Terminal Connector Seems to be the kit your after!
Thanks a lot.
Thats what niche YT communities is all about!
@@Narwaro The knowledge of crowds is impressive.
@@RotarySMP i have had remarkable luck asking Twitter when i simply can't find something. it's truly awesome to nerd snipe people who know about some specific thing to get answers to unanswerable questions
For many terminals at about this size (molex), your handy discarded cocktail stir straw can do in a pinch. Probably worth having a cocktail... for the straw of coarse.
In literature, metapoetry is poetry about making poetry.
I always tell my wife I have a metaworkshop that can only make more workshop!
That summes it up well :) Metaworkshop.
“So you’re into metalworking?”
“No, METAworking.”
"So what do you make with these machines?" - "Basically bits for the machines" is very relatable to me as a machine tool builder :D
:)
I would have said "why i make videos of course"
@@chrisstephens6673 Good point.
@@chrisstephens6673 I'd add it saves thousands* of people having to learn the skills, buy the machines etc. Just watch RotarySMP and other like minded video channels.
*may actually be just one person.
@@BenMitro I have the machines and a certain level of skills and I still watch, but I'm jealous he has more subscribers than I do, although his are deserved mine are just being kind.😉
Come on, don't lie to yourself, once you finish working on all your machines, there will be another mill/lathe/grinder/shaper/(add more metalworking machine names here) for too good of a price to pass on... It's not like you are better than us in this regard :)
You are probably right :)
:-)
That new machine will be in the shop before this lathe is running
@@Dragehest Could well be. :)
Vehicle repair channels: saying "click" when tightening a nut without a torque wrench.
This channel: using a torque wrench when fitting covers.
Lets call it practice :)
I think the ice cream tub of assorted drills and allen keys may be a universal constant across all workshops the world over 😂
Been really enjoying your suggestions for other channels to watch, I recently came across a guy with a channel called "Machining and Microwaves" - he does high frequency radio type projects, very rarely understand the technical details but it's consistently engaging and great fun to watch.
I also am consistently stumped by the "oh you have a 3d printer, what do you print?" question. I don't know, stuff! Interesting things
🤣
I personally use Ariel washing pod boxes because they have a nice click-in top with a hinge so you can't lose it
I like icecream (too much for my own good), so those are readily available.
@@whatevernamegoeshere3644 Mine are all chinese takeaway tubs 😁
@@roseroserose588 Another great source.
The good thing about machine tool restoration as a hobby is…once you get deep enough down the rabbit hole, you can make just about anything you need for the hobby. Imagine doing something like restoring a car, and having to buy parts?!?!?
I would love to see the sort of rusty scrap you would use as a start for making a car panel :)
I felt that Q&A about what you make with your machines in my _soul._
I think there are many like us :)
Much like my home electronics lab which is a mix of new and older (1980s+) kit. I've found you need at least two oscilloscopes so you can fix whichever one decides not to work. Similarly I have a spectrum analyser that probably works fine right now since I don't need to use it, but when want it... so I usually budget a couple of extra hours to fix it beforehand. Anyway, thanks for the video, nice to see the nameplate looking clean.
As a mechanical guy I am in awe of any magician who considers an Osci "fixable".
@@RotarySMP Likewise me watching machinist videos and listening to aero stuff :) That era of Tek and HP scopes had great documentation which makes it way easier - getting much harder these days without schematic level detail.
@@robertwatsonbath I was pretty surprised to see how it used to be normal to publish component level schematics (I know that from guitar amps). Imagine Apple doing that.
@@RotarySMP they used to. Once upon a time. When Woz was doing the engineering 🙄
People ask me all the time what I make in my workshop. My canned answer is: “whatever I want.” :-).
Yeah, that impresses people, that we can actually make and fix things.
Sounds like my first three months with a 3D printer: I spent them printing upgrade parts for the printer.
... and the second three months printing parts for the next replacement printer :)
I love the channel recommendations btw! I rarely find any new creators by scrolling through the "related videos" sidebar, for some reason RUclips mostly recommends me videos I've already watched....
It seems to go in waves. Mostly just stuff I know, but lately there were some good new ones.
"Just for fun" seems to be a very good reason to me :)
It has been fun.
Always am looking forward to tune into the progress on the Schaublin. Thanks for a peek in the shop!
Thanks for your feedback Joe.
Your lathe is so quiet. I like it.
Those flat belt driven plan bearing lathes are very quiet. It is nice.
What do they mean, those people, "what do you make with those tools", the journey is the destination, right? 🥰
Sure is. Some people have no understanding. :)
I love that RHCP album 😅 Was one of the first CDs I ever manged to buy 🙂
It is a good one.
The correct answer to "What do you make with all this?" is: "Anything I bloody well want!"
Too right.
"bits for the machines" ... sounds like 100% justified to me ;D
:)
Nice to see you go the extra mile and blue the repair to match 😀
Thanks 👍
Hello Mark,
I think you have defined the next project to restore the Boley lathe and recreate all the possible accessories for it using the Schaublin and Maho...
Have a good week and see you next Sunday.
Take care.
Paul,,
Hi Paul. I am trying to resist that temptation. I would like to convince myself that the schaulbin is all the lathe I need going forward.
@@RotarySMP Well if the Boley has to go give me a shout and maybe I will find a new home of it.
@@TheKnacklersWorkshop It is pretty worn, and is missing the change wheels and banjo. I made up a Nema 34 mount for electronic lead screw. It is also 780kg. Be a bear to move that to the UK.
05:40 same experience here: "what are you doing with your 3D printer?" Well, for the first two years, parts for the 3D printer :-)
... and then parts for the next printer :)
@@RotarySMP.... and replacement parts, for when the ones you printed before crack from fatigue. Btw cleaning the bed with Isopropanol helps a lot for you prints to stick, however your hairy Benchy looked cool. "Nicht schön aber selten" as we say...
@@mazchen I clean the bed with Essigreiniger. Works really well. The adhesion issue was laziness. I didn't clean before that print.
4:32 Dry rag this time? Worth a shot I guess.
More dusting than cleaning :/
5:42, well its a comforting thought to know im not alone i guess ;)
:)
I retired five years ago and took up machining as a hobby. My first "serious" machining project was a working model steam engine. When I proudly show it to anyone they usually say, "That's nice. What do you do with it." Sigh..........
That is a great data point. If that question doesn't go away even after making stuff, I can safely continue ignoring it. :)
good job rotarysmp
Thanks.
Regarding the connectors, check AMP mate-n-lock series. They look like Molex but they aren't, and the pins (AMP 170363) are quite similar to what you've got.
Thanks for the tip.
Yep, looks likeley farnell.com/datasheets/587177.pdf
I just found out I have this type of connector. I have puller that works for them. It has outer diameter 3mm and inner 2mm. It is very tight fit but that might be me using knock-off connectors an running female pins in male casing.
@@soucevit Thanks for that. Maybe I didnt make the second attempt (2mm ID) long enough?
@@RotarySMP It takes roughly 11mm to reach bottom of the connector for my puller.
Make parts for the machines with the machines you already own.. That's exactly the mindset in the 3d printing community.. XD
:)
Your excellent machines look perfect for some model engineering 👍
I have some thoughts along those lines
Someone needs a Prusia/Formbot/LDO/Bamboo sponsorship ;)
Yeah. My mate has a VZbot, and it is an incredible printer. The print quality is exceptional.
Would be fun to see you making some micro turbines when the lathe is ready. Also a live tool attachment as a project extension would be great!
Cool idea
The question about what your making with all this stuff should be more of “what can’t you make with all this stuff?”!! Love the Channel. It’s my Sunday morning, watch in bed, make my wife’s eyes roll favorite
Glad you are enjoying the trip. Thanks for the feedback.
A can of hair spray does wonders for bed adhesion! Also using the brim or raft option can help a lot.
Thanks. Not being too lazy to clean the bed before use is also beneficial ;)
3d lac works well. It's clean and very cost effective. The can lasts for years and years for the moderate volume user.
@@nrml76 Thanks.
What to make? Given your history with flying things I'd tune-in to see you make flying things.
I used to have a home built kit, but changed direction to machinery.
Yes, always a question asked on what do you do with the machines in the shop, well they're more useful than a set of golf clubs , and you can use them every day.
Nice eclectic mix 👌 👍.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the kind feedback.
You made a sweet camera stand
Thanks. I keep bumping against it, but it is really great for this sort of work.
Love the lathe work! Great video....
Thanks Jasper.
Making machines with machines to make machines. I thought that was normal.
It is to me :)
Making bits for the machines is a perfectly good reason to have them all. After all, you're engaged in machine-tool therapy not profitable manufacturing!!!
Machine tool therapy. You got that right.
Looks like MLX42023 search Farnell for dimensions. Certainly looks like a Molex item. They can be a real pain to track down as there are hundreds of different ranges and many pins are common across multiple products. There are also many other manufacturers making similar looking connectors and using almost identical pins in totally different connectors. Similar pins are also used by Amphenol for one example. The official extractor is usually a brass tube with a plunger in fitted to some sort of plastic or aluminum handle. Some cost hundreds. Your home made one looks good but the wall thickness on the real ones is much thinner.
Edit: As others have said, it could also be AMP mate-n-lock series.
Thanks for that. Others have identified it as AMP mate-n-lok. The pin larger diameter seems to be a sliding fit in the housing, so the extractor would need a very thin wall.
@@RotarySMP agree on both counts. My experience with extractors is they are very thin walled. I have successfully machined them though.
@@gillywild Thanks. I'll get a another, correct sized drill and have another shot at it.
I built a mini lathe from scratch, and I'm currently building a milling machine, and I get the "But what are you going to make with them" question all the time. My standard reply is "Whatever I want to make"
When people ask "what do you need a lathe for?" I often answer that it is a basic tool like a screw driver :)
read on a woodworking forum "I realised that I have two hobbies, one is tool collecting and the other is woodworking"
Living in canada, that places me perilously close to several lee valley stores
PS i feel somewhat vindicated by my diagnosis of the hose damage , if for entirely the wrong reason.
Yep, the movement of the collet closet outer race was certainly part of the problem.
Excellent video as usual. I do note that your videos have a lot of inception self-reference going on as to tool making. I started watching a little bit into the mini-lathe conversion and was hooked by the tally board for old parts scrapped, new tools made.
Good point., I have a new leader board. Much bigger. I need to start writting on it and introduce it to the viewers.
wathing you make so many tools for depining molex, on the other hand i depinned my entire power supplie with two paper clips, man did my fingers hurt at the end, but i still managed to do it.
I tried to use staples, but couldnt get them to release with them either.
@@RotarySMP yeah the one i did where square tho so not the same ones you have here, porbably best you have the tool and don't ruin them
Love to hear the new choice in music!
Shame there is no more decent stuff in the YT music library. I have used all of them before.
It's a metal pin....you're welcome!
Here is a joke to make me feel better!
O'le Bert has been saving for a very long time to afford this beautiful pair of boots. After what seems an eternity he finally went and bought them! Excitedly he wears them home to show the boots off to his missus.
He stands in the loungeroom at home and proudly asks...."do you notice anything different about me?"
Missus looks him up and down and says "No not really".
Well that was not the answer O'le Bert was looking for so he gets mad and takes of all his clothes(except for the boots off course) and angrily says "DO YOU SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT ME NOW!"
Missus looks him up and down and says "No not really...... You're wedding tackle is pointed down?"
O'le Bert yells " THAT'S BECAUSE IT IS LOOKING AT MY NEW BOOTS!!!!"
Missus says" Should've bought a hat Bert...Should've bought an hat!
Thanks.
Great video...
Thanks Werner.
Looking forward to the photography related projects 👍
Noted :)
I enjoyed the stories so much I had to watch making the new adapter twice - Apparently I missed the counterbore operation for the socket head cap screw and was completely confused as to how you rotary broached the hex in the end of the nub. 🤣😂🤣
I would like to have a rotabroach... maybe also a project one day.
yay! new Video
Thanks for the feeback :)
9:03 Bröther, you do not need to torque the cover. It is a cover. And you will take it back off in .75 episodes anyway.
:)
This way I keep in practice.
I have three lathes, A Covmac(large), a Colchester(medium) and a Holbrook(small) the first two actually work!
Phil
Nice selection. Have you seen Andy Pugh's Holbrook LinuxCNC conversion? Very tasty.
@@RotarySMP Mr Pugh also has a Harrison v mill like mine!
He does great stuff with his workshop.
@@RotarySMP I subscribed!
Little job, but very satisfying result - now it's holding properly against the case :-) There are many pin extractors, but I mostly use a jeweler's thin screwdriver to do it.
I guess most hobby machinists mostly do parts and contraptions to use with their machines (and the occasional real repair) - doing more serious work would probably fall outside the hobby :-)
...and we wouldn't want to risk that. :)
@@RotarySMP LOL
Have you tried a glass fiber pen for the plaque yet?
No. Good point.
Feels like you’ve changed video style a bit, I like it a lot!
In what way?
I have dialed back on the music a bit, and filled the void with brain farts about the shop on this one ;)
@@RotarySMP I’ve been off YT for a while and haven’t seen your last ones.
It’s hard to say concretely but it felt a bit more “upbeat” in a lack of a better word. A bit more humor and faster into the topic at hand. I like the music too.
Whatever you’re doing, it’s good :)
@@LILLJE Thanks for your feedback on that. I try my best.
And everything to the right torque specification. I just use, I think it is enough, or just a little bit to much torque
Our #1 fan Nico lent me his torque wrench, so I'd better use it. :)
You do like doing things the hard way. Some square stock and 10 minuets in the 4 jaw and mill. But i do aprecate an over engineer. Thanks
I though about making a new one, but figured it was quicker to just poke in a threaded hole and screw on a new bit to break off.
I know what you mean about using the machines to fix the machines! The motor drive on my hardinge is still not working. Swopped out the brushes for some from a vacuum cleaner. Now need to modernise the speed controller on the 240v DC motor. I also covet a wider range of 5c collets only have 1/16 " increments and no metric but they don't come up on ebay very often.
The manual control of cnc lathe will make it easier to just hop on and make stuff. Did Tony's video persuade you or was it in the plan?
That was alwas on the plan. The later model 125-CCN with the Fanuc controller has two job wheels.
If you could make a video explaining why three lathes are necessary I would really appreciate that, and my marriage would benefit. Ok thanks! 🙂👍
My wife cracked up at your comment :)
@@RotarySMP :-)
Is that why I haven't finished my lathe restoration? I need to buy another lathe first?
That will be the problem.
I was in a similar position once, thinking what do I do with the machines I had amassed. Long story short I got more machines... that cured that 🤣. Currently at 5 lathes with 2.5 running. Should keep me from asking that question again for at least another year
Oh wow! Nice solution. So manybe I should look out for a manual Scaublin 125C to complete the pair. :)
@@RotarySMP that sounds like an excellent idea 💡 however I do like your cnc content... maybe I'm biased though I've only 1 manual machine 😅
I'm am yet to see someone tackling a cnc shaper.
@@jonnydeen6952 There are some high end industrial machines which are like a shaper / mill cross over, which drag a tool like a lathe insert cut off tool around a set path, and align the tool the whole way to make some weird shaped grooves.
Id be looking at the other end of the cable. Disconnect it from the encoder, it won't have a large connector on it.
I opened it up and looked at it, but this leads are soldered to the encoder board.
@@RotarySMP Sounds pretty easy ;)
When I bought my Lathe and Mill, my GF asked me the same thing: what are you going to make with these? You have to come straight out and say: nothing. These are just here to make more parts and tools for the machines. Completely useless.
Then, when you make a "useful" part once in a while, it's a positive surprise. It's all about managing expectations.
Good one :)
You forgot to drop the link to the other channel you mentioned in the video!
I did add a pop up card, but for some reason it is not working.
ruclips.net/channel/UCBL9y0Fb4JArsNYsoixbkAA
if you like making parts for machines you could possibility be able to continue and sell these restored and upgraded cnc
I am too attached to the Maho and Schaublin to want to sell them :)
Few thoughts about what you said in this video:
1st: cracking content as always. Love putting my feet up and watching your stuff, this is 10x better than anything on tv.
2nd: MPG as a handwheel replacement sounds great, but it's not all it's cracked up to be. I have a guildermeister that's like how you expained, and it's great for positioning, but because there's no force to lean into, it's very hard to get a good cut. Most of the time i use the handwheels to position before a cut, then use the feed buttons to actually take it. I can take a picture of the laytout if you like, it works very well.
3rd: What are you going to do once you're done with the lathe? Seems to me like a VMC retrofit is the next logical step :D
Thanks Samuel.
I already have a Maho MH400E, which I brain transplanted to LinuxCNC.
ruclips.net/video/LXwbRhgq1og/видео.html&
Please post a picture of that Guildermeister control set up to the Schaublin retrofit thread here:
forum.linuxcnc.org/26-turning/41498-schaublin-125-cnc-retrofit?start=350
I would like to see that.
@@RotarySMP Oh yeah I've been watching you for ages, I recon a 'proper' vmc would be an amazing watch :)
@@spikeypineapple552 I dont have the garage ceiling height for anything taller than I already have.
Always fantastic.
Silly question: Is there a philosophy behind using center drills to spot? I know many people do it, and I’ve read you’re not supposed to. What’s your take?
"The role of a center drill is to break off in your work." - Mary Curie
I do it because the center drill is there, but my carbide spot drill is a 40 taper mill chuck.
If you like Granit scraping watch this guy ruclips.net/user/WorldofMachines He's Croatian guy living in NZ, who has hand built one of the most accurate CNC routers I have ever seen. All from Granite
Thanks for the link.
Pitor gets some amazing surface finish from that machine. 👍
@@jimurrata6785 I bet. I see that I have watched the first two, but now I get to watch the rest.
waaaaait what do you mean "one lathe" what did you do with our lovely turd after all that polishing ? (oh you talked about it near the end of the vid)
"make bits for the machines" is a motto to live by. my normal conversation goes "aw, I wish I could get a maho/shaublin/colchester/... here" "what do you need it for?" somehow they don't get the answer to "refurbish it, or CNC it"
Good point. I dont have 2 lathes, I have three. THe Turd is burried under a pile of our #1 Fan Nico's junk. He came around to use my shed to make some project, and it has gone like the movie Parasite so far :(
Looks like your Cura (if you use that) is set to 3mm filament by accident. happened to me after an automatic update. it results in under extrution.
This is 2.85mm. I'll check it...
... Just did. In the machine settings-->extruder 1 settings, it is correct at 2.85mm. Could there be another place with the wrong setting?
@@RotarySMP correct? how you mean correct. are you using 2.85mm (aka3mm) fillament. everyone uses 1,75 nowadays.
@@janwiersma1449This machine is older, and uses 2.85mm filament.
As for the connector, a major brand will mold their name or trademark into the housing (AMP and Molex surely do, if it is an AMP or Molex, or other Major brand it will say so), on an edge, release clip, or on a tip of the housing (or it's mating housing), and on the terminal near the crimp areas...Did you look? You have a very nice image of the terminal but you did not rotate it for us to see and you also did not show us the housing up-close and multiple angles... As for YOUR custom extractor, you can make all of your measurements from the terminal. YOUR design of extractor will not eject the pin, it will only collapse the locking tabs. Push the wire forward fully, then insert YOUR tab collapsing sleeve over the locking tabs, then pull the wire yourself. Don't forget to re-expand the locking tabs before re-use... Why not just re-do the connectors to something you already have tools and pins and connectors for, or have access to? P.S. Excellent Videos!
There are no markings on this connector body. It is JMC motor and cable, so I am guessing that they use copy mate-n-loc connectors. Thanks for the tip to first push the pin in. Know I have one pin out, I measured it and have a clearer plan how to make the next extractor.
you have more then likely thought of this for the plug,but how is it connected to the drive motor.
I tried that, but there are no simple disconnects under those covers. The encoder has flying leads.
nice video as always, what kind of blueing do you use?
Birchwood
I think there is a certain satisfaction from making tools, parts for machines, etc that you don't get from doing more general projects. Running into a problem and being able to make some specialized tools to tackle it tickles the "self reliance man gene", at least for me.
I also like that self reliance man game concept. Make instead of buy (although I seem to still buy a lot.) :/
I hate de-pinning connectors. I once had to de-pin this blind-mating connector in the pedestal of a A330 Lev D sim. No slack in the cable at all... Took 3 hours to de-pin and replace the thing. Scarred for life...
How many pins? Some of those A/C connectors can have a lot.
@@RotarySMP That was kinda similar to a ARINC 600 pin field, same kind of density and size but in a floating frame below the thrust levers and with guide pins for blind mating. I had to pull the entire quadrant out and work down in the hole. We only had about 10 pins in use but finding an extractor tool took a while. I had to de-pin them cause there was no slack and I had to get the connector frame out of the way to get in there with a tool to crimp new pins.
@@juliussokolowski4293 Bet you had some choice words for the "colleague" who installed that without slack.
@@RotarySMP Those were OEM sins. The point was that the sim was a 330/340 convertible. You swapped the overhead and the quadrant. Thing was that the guide pins were on the removable part of the quadrant and people tended to miss a bit and hit the connector pin (socket actually) field in the pedestal. After 10 years of multiple daily swaps the plastic pin holder had a little crater in it and caused the No. 1 and 4 reverse interlock to fail to release. The OEM put in a blind mating connector but underestimated how blind my colleagues actually were.
Actully molex is a manufacturer. 4:45 (whips out a box) male time. When doing stuff like this how do you know what torque to use? Or is it just you use whatever it the chart torque for whatever size? Because I figure some bolts might need more or less torque than the chart says. The machines I drive need repair all the time and sometimes some bolt might be listed in the spare parts pictures (exactly, spare part pictures, not even proper exploded views.) as having this or that torque.
I am just using standard torque for the most part. There have been a few where I dialled it back (the housings).
Couldnt have measured the pin you got out with verniers?
I did. It is 1.8mm. I forgot to mention that.
So again, I need to go and get another drill. The challenge is that the bore seems to also be 1.8mm, so the extractor must be extremely thin walled.
are you mad or acoustic to use torque wrench to bolt in covers?? :D :D :D
Acoustic :)
@@RotarySMP very nice!
Are the connector original or a retrofitting? 🤔🤓
Those connectors are from JMC motors.
It could be a chenobo Amazon sell them
Thanks.
What brand is your little wee lathe?
I have a generic Chinese 7x12 mini lathe probably made by SIEG. Then a Boley 4LV, and the SCHAUBLIN 125-cnc. They are all considered small
One step closer to buying a new machine......
Must.... resist...
What solution are you using for bluing?
Birchwood Perma blue. I bought a small bottle about 20 years ago. It is still going strong.
@@RotarySMP Great! Thanks! Just renovating an old bandsaw and like the black look on bolts!
Doesn’t look like molex, like others have stated, looks like AMP
Mini Mate-n-lok.
Ty, Now I know, hopefully I’ll remember it if I ever encounter it (y)
@@Handskemager Good luck with that :)
I tell them I make $5 parts that cost $50 each
That is also a very accurate answer.
How DARE you have the audacity to ask what I make with all these tools. What do I make with all these tools? I make the world a better place. I make beautiful symphonies of heat and steel. I make my mind work! I make…
More tools.
Brilliant response :)
“Don’t know what I’m gonna do with these machines once I’m done with them”.
You are an aircraft mechanic, get yourself a surplus apu and rebuild it. Better yet, do a turbo charger to gas turbine conversion and use it to power, I don’t know, an engine lathe? ….. get it….see what I did there? ……. Never mind, I’ll see myself out.
Running gas turbines in a suburb is not really going to work with the neihbours.