Flex is using "pragmatic" right and rory is using it wrong. It means dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations. Soutgate's pragmatism will keep him rigidly to a sensible gameplan rather than adapt to a theoretically riskier one.
So you clearly just plucked that defn from Google or some shirt place & didn't read it, because you then argued with yourself saying Gareth pragmatism will stop him from doing THE EXACT DEFN OF PRAGMATISM, which you just told us! A pragmatic person WILL change their plans. Flex just thinks it means being defensive & tough to beat etc. It means you are able to adapt to the situation - so ironically, being flexible - so what might be the best way to do something usually, might not apply if other factors change, eg the weather, or personnel, time... I'm not a Gareth hater, he's done a lot of good for the team, esp in regards player management, but just players from the big teams, in fact I don't think there's ever been less players from the traditional big boys, & that's even with rice moving to arsenal in the last year. The relationship with the media & general way he talks at press so fans know what's going on. But he is no tactical genius, he doesn't have 8 plans, so in terms of game plan he's an idealist (the opposite of pragmatism, so a person who will stick rigidly to their plans), he sticks to the simple & what he knows, ie plan a until it goes wrong & you are forced to change
Flex has possibly the best ball knowledge after jla, of all the guys I know. Rory is near the bottom of that list, but in actual iq, posh lad Rory has a higher iq than most of the ones, he has brilliant memory (which is a sign of that)
you've contradicted ypurself. sure rory's ball knowledge is rather stinky but he's right southgate is not pragmatic enough since he's unable to adapt to situations properly. flex means to say dogmatic or stubborn. pragmatism in football seems to be associated with a stubborn play style but pragmatism is a pursuit of winning by adapting to your opponents and giving yourself the best possible chance to win (in your lineup and via your in-game changes) which is a quality southgate is very poor at while deschamps excels in this sense.
@@alexladbrook5740it's still 2 goals mate, this isn't rugby, or basketball, you don't score 20 times. By your standards Harry & kylian should score more than 5 against them
20:11 Ronaldo proved last night he’s still got a lot to offer 27:39 Palmer probably will be on the bench to start but he shouldn’t be, honestly think we need to stop gassing up Foden he doesn’t do it for England
500% agree with you.. Don't waste the minutes on the pitch by waiting Foden become good because it wouldn't happened as we can see the game against Iceland with Southgate kept him on the pitch for full 90 but still nothing change on his game.
Tournament football can't be made as trial for player to up his level when in friendly he has been given but can not live up to the expectation. If he can't do it in friendly and in qualifier mean you can not sacrifice the whole team for him unless he is the Son of God.
Agree with both, I've a bit more strongly than the other, but still. This was Phil first proper season, first time he actual proved himself, so whereas previously came because if talent, he's now there on form & exp, & that might help him play well, finally, because if he doesn't turn up
Love the shout Rory but as a Belgian, I fear Trossard won't get enough minutes to compete for the golden boot. I get saying 'KDB is past his prime', ofcourse he is, but he's not washed yet. I still believe he can turn up as a leader 1 last time.
Ya, he wasn't even starting for arsenal till latent, but point is, he gets clutch goals. Idk how many he got this year, pl or overall, but I'd guess 10-15, 5 must've been against big teams like man u & Munich, or a crucial goal, like a winner/draw, opener or goal to get them back in in a tight game
& in tourney football, you often have tight games, where you need someone to pull it out of the bag. So even if he's cunning if the bench, he might end up grabbing a few goals
Rory is the most biased football fan I’ve ever seen in my life he’s up there with Lewis Bowden from pitchside. Winners will be France, Golden Boot will be Mbappe, Top Assister will be Wirtz and Player of the tournament is Mbappe. Also let’s stop pretending England and France are on the same level cause it’s not even close. They aren’t even better than Germany or Portugal
I'm not English and England on paper absolutely have a better team than Germany and Portugal. The only concern England have is LB and Shaw will be back in time for the knockouts, the other two have problems of their own. England's team is fantastic, the only thing holding them back is Southgate. Both their starting XI and squad depth are on another level compared to anyone other than France and its still close between those two. You can highlight weaknesses for both such as at RB for France and both have injury concerns. Deschamps however is a far better manager than Southgate.
@@areebsiddiqui758I think Germany have a better defence with kimmich rudiger tah/schlotterbeck Neuer and David raum When it comes to midfield it depends if you want to compare as individuals or as a group. Individually England has a better midfield but as a group kroos gundogan, Musiala, writz, grob, and muller is way more balanced and then I’d give England the attack.
@@areebsiddiqui758 England defensively are poor. Don't bring me guys like Guehi and Dunk(they are mid-table fodder). Germany with Rudiger and Tah(invincible season at Leverkusen) have a better defence and slightly better midfield with Kroos, Gundogan and Andrich. Portugal also have a better defence and midfield than England with Antonio Silva, Inacio, Ruben dias, whilst having good fullback options on both sides. Midfield wise they have Vitinha, Bernardo, Bruno, Palhinha, even youngsters like Joao Neves(been very good for Benfica). England have a better attack but that's pretty much it.
Love this...was thinking I want to change my Player Of The Tournament shout...Im going Toni Kroos, they'll give it to him out of respect for his entire career.
That's what they do with Oscars & balloon door etc, but for 1 tourney, nah, unless it's a real close call surg him vs ska or jamal etc. But if Germany go out early & he does nothing
Always lovely seeing English fans/people get all hyped up and then be disappointed again. They aren't close to France. In fact, I would say both Germany and Portugal have a better chance to win it. They've got so many issues in the squad, and especially in the defense which they say wins you titles. Not to mention they aren't as good as they think up front either..... Also that group is definitely not 9 points (7:37) I don't even think they'll get 7 to be honest.
@@Allwin-lz6yj Nah, Germany have a bigger chance than Portugal maybe even than France. Portugal always implodes due to issues in the squad, especially with Cristiano now that shouldn't even be playing but will be. That will cause massive friction. Not to mention they have the biggest loser as a coach that completely shit to bed with Belgium's golden generation team. Germany are also at home and almost have a flawless squad.
Winner of the tournament will be from that Portugal vs. Germany Semi. If Ronaldo and Neto start; Bruno Fernandas is gonna have a freakish tournament. Dark Horse? Denmark, Denmark will surprise England in the groups. Underachievers, Sadly Netherlands, Koeman's favouritism & that midfield getting gutted is gonna hurt them but if they play a 3412 with Weffier, Veerman, Xavi in midfield and Frimpong as an attacking Wingback, they'll be find but Koeman, Man. Playmaker; Griezmann. TopScorer;- Højlund.
But he won't, not in early stages. England whole left sode is weak, is why the big argument is so you put best players out, or best in position, ie where does Phil play
We should have Grealish .. as back up for foden on the left. Grealish is responsible for the last 3 goals England have scored. (All The ones against against Bosnia)
Pragmatic means dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations. So Flex was actually correct when he said Southgate is too pragmatic. Rory once again giving us an iconic moment 😂 Big up Rory
That is not was Flex was saying. He was confusing pragmatic with conservative. Pragmatism essentially means practicality and adaptability. In a footballing context its used to mean managers who can make changes according to the evolving situation of a game. So the opposite of managers that are rigid and stuck in their ways. They were both wrong but Rory was slightly closer.
@@what9331 No, it's just usually used in a very certain context. Regarding managers who can change things on the fly according to match situations and practicality over theory and principles.
I've only seen him in 1/2 vid on 888 before, he didn't make a lot of sense there, & he said he thinks Ivan Tony, who did 4 goals in half a season, & 1/2 of those were fk or pen, would do a better job than Ronaldo, so far he's made very little sense to me
England look too weak defensively. People keep saying that “this is the best chance we’ve had for decades.” You can’t tell me this England side is better than the golden generation with Terry and Ferdinand at the back, lampard in midfield etc. it’s silly. Also, no one mentioned Netherlands as dark horses, which is surprising because they have got a sneaky strong squad (don’t think they will win it but definitely dark horse worthy). France squad definitely stronger than England of paper, but we are still in with a chance
Yes, agreed that the Netherlands are a dark horse. Their last three friendlies, against Scotland, Canada and Iceland, they all won with 4-0 (while England lost against Iceland with 1-0 and France drew 0-0 against Canada; not saying that friendlies say everything but they also don’t say nothing, if you know what I mean). People say they have a very strong defense, but that they don’t have a strong attack, only Memphis as a striker. But not only is Memphis doing quite well now, it’s simply not true that the Netherlands depend on their one striker. Their entire front is pretty strong and flexibel, they can all score and give great assists.
Before the 2022 world cup i predicted that England will have a complete top class players in all position at the 2024 Euro. But everything change when those under-21 champions squad of players were not playing in their clubs and have to become bench warmer or playing in kid's football. Please remember this words : The fall of England national team was done by its clubs. Spain, Germany, France always nurturing their past under-21 champions player well and every of them later become their national team best player with an exception only happened in England when its own trophy winner young player was wasted.
The only chance England has is with Bellingham. You ask him where he wants to play, then you build it around him. If he wants to play winger, you play him winger. If he wants to play keeper, Pickford’s in the bench. If he wants to play 10 and crash the box, you let him crash the box. Plain and simple. He’s the only one in England who’s in Madrid, the best team in the world and he’s undoubtedly their best player with Vini. He’s a Ballon d’Or favorite, and wherever he wants to play he plays. He doesn’t need to sacrifice for someone like Cole Palmer, who’s older and way worse than him. He doesn’t need to sacrifice his game for someone like Foden, who’s older and way worse than him. That’s how England wins. You ask him, “Ayo Jude, where’d you want to play man?” After he gives his answer, you call in the scrubs to fill out the team
Calm down lad. Bellingham is class, but he ain't Zidane/Messi/R9. He's not at "pass the ball to Jude" levels. Foden's using major trophy medals as coasters at this point. TAA has completed club football. England need to build around Bellingham/Foden/TAA. Let these winners cook.
@@chrismcgregor272 he’s the best thing your team has seen in a long time. He’s the closest thing England has to a true superstar in a long time. Best thing to do is keep him sweet. And I’m just saying facts, he’s in conversations with Mbappé and Vinicius Jr. and them people. They better keep him happy and all that if they want a shot to win. He’s better and younger than most of the squad. That’s just a fact. He’s playing in Real Madrid, and is instrumental to their double. But I do acknowledge that he’s not really leagues over the others. That was just hyperbole to prove a point.
@@BiggestChungus21 Bellingham was lucky Mbappe didnt get bored of the blank cheques last summer. Big Jude would have sat on the big bench most of the season otherwise. OAP's Kroos/Modric were ahead of him in his natural position 8. Bellingham is a brilliant player. He is definitely a key player for England. Again tho, he ain't Zidane/Messi/R9 levels yet. He isn't going to singlehandedly drag England to a trophy. Bellingham is going to need Foden/TAA on it. Just like he needed Vini Jr and Kroos.
@@chrismcgregor272 For England it's Jude that always delivered and live up to the expectation. Please tell me the matches that Foden is man of the match on England shirt? Twice he was given the chances to play in his favoured position and he failed in those chances. Do you think everyone in England jave to sacrifice for him for the 3rd time? Was he English Son of God?
@@ronnyron4681 You cant blame Foden for Southgate's lack of tactical management or act like England are smashing it every game without Foden 😂. Foden just missed the games against Iran/Senegal level opponents, through injury or Southgate sticking with players he likes, so hasn't had the fortune of ripping up some Iranian plumber or Senegalese making a living in the 26th ranked league in Europe. Bellingham played his natural 8 role throughout the last tournament. He had some good games Iran/Senegal and some poor ones ie USA/France. I'm sure if Foden starts, in the 10 role every game, he will have 1 or 2 great games and 1 or 2 poor games. That's how it is for all the players under Southgate.
He's correct though, as much as i dunt like to admot it (flex is right 99% of the time. But less so here, though they meant it in different ways), in that ot means adapting to rl situation, I'm not a Gareth hater, he's done a lot of good, in the last few years, though more off the pitch than on it, like dealing with press, selecting players but from traditional big boys etc but he's not a tactical genius, & this makes him an idealist (the opposite of a pragmatist): he will not change his plans until forced to. He won't mess around with personnel, or style until 1-0 down with 10min to go
I’ve got a feeling England will struggle. Three of their first-choice defenders (Stones, Guehi and Shaw) aren’t match fit and concerned none of the forwards, with the exception of Gordon, like to run in behind. Hope I’m wrong!
Rory is the most annoying fan i have ever seen. Hate and delusion have a limit too. Imagine saying havertz have more chance of not scoring than winning the golden boot. Average no 9 will score atleast one goal playing for germany FFS. Netherlands have more chance of winning euro than england IMO😂😂😂
England don’t have good enough defenders to sit back against a good attack trippier and walker 1 v 1 defensively are getting shredded Dunk and guehi or Gomez won’t cut it and if stones comes back from his illness he’ll probably go back to the hospital cause of injuries
They say Portugal have a great set of players but they wont win because the coach doesnt know how to put them playing well togheter but..they put England as favourites..a team that doesnt play an atractive football mostly because..their coach is pretty weak.Makes sense😅.
Combined 11 more English players rather than France players the delusion is mad seem to forget those france players made the final off the world cup😂😂😂
There is no way that England wins the Euros or any international tournament for that matter. France, Germany or Croatia will win the euros. Havertz season has been better then everyone in a Chelsea shirt apart from Cole Palmer Griezmann wil get the most assists, i mean he has Mbappe in his team
God these people are daft. They're talking about KDB like he hasn't come back from 6 months out and major leg surgery THIS SEASON. Obviously he wouldn't be playing 90 mins every fucking game after coming back.
England are the fifth favorites first four being France Germany Portugal and Spain i say this because England are overloaded with best attackers but their defense are decent at best. come out of delusion
Damn rory actually has negative ball knowledge. I didnt think it was possible 😂 or hes a grown man thay acts like a 5 year old to get clicks. Whichever one it is, its embarrassing. Low and behold havertz scored in the first game 😂
For the first time in history, Rory is right... Kai Havertz didn't have a good season. People are so quick to forget how poor this guy was in the beginning of the season
Yes, but thank God Nicole was there as i was ready to scream, because the first half of the season DOESN'T DUCKING MATTER! his firm 12 months ago is completely irrelevant, it's how he's been of late, that's what you use to predict how he might play NOW. & it wasn't a great season, but it was decent, & esp when you consider that he was in & out the team, moved around, but once he got into the right position, he did fairly well
He wasn't bad in the first half. Luke 10 bad games then 10 fine ones and the rest he's been so clutch. Amazing stats and has G/A per game. For Germany too he's very good. Rory cannot handle it lmao
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Winners: France
Top goalscorer: Mbappe
Top assister: Fernandes
Player of the Tournament: Mbappe
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big up suga shaun
Flex is using "pragmatic" right and rory is using it wrong. It means dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations. Soutgate's pragmatism will keep him rigidly to a sensible gameplan rather than adapt to a theoretically riskier one.
So you clearly just plucked that defn from Google or some shirt place & didn't read it, because you then argued with yourself saying Gareth pragmatism will stop him from doing THE EXACT DEFN OF PRAGMATISM, which you just told us! A pragmatic person WILL change their plans. Flex just thinks it means being defensive & tough to beat etc. It means you are able to adapt to the situation - so ironically, being flexible - so what might be the best way to do something usually, might not apply if other factors change, eg the weather, or personnel, time... I'm not a Gareth hater, he's done a lot of good for the team, esp in regards player management, but just players from the big teams, in fact I don't think there's ever been less players from the traditional big boys, & that's even with rice moving to arsenal in the last year. The relationship with the media & general way he talks at press so fans know what's going on. But he is no tactical genius, he doesn't have 8 plans, so in terms of game plan he's an idealist (the opposite of pragmatism, so a person who will stick rigidly to their plans), he sticks to the simple & what he knows, ie plan a until it goes wrong & you are forced to change
Flex has possibly the best ball knowledge after jla, of all the guys I know. Rory is near the bottom of that list, but in actual iq, posh lad Rory has a higher iq than most of the ones, he has brilliant memory (which is a sign of that)
I like flex, but he's not the sharpest till in the shed
I woudn't class southgate as pragmatic though he's a conservative coach with lot's of emphasis on defense
you've contradicted ypurself. sure rory's ball knowledge is rather stinky but he's right southgate is not pragmatic enough since he's unable to adapt to situations properly. flex means to say dogmatic or stubborn. pragmatism in football seems to be associated with a stubborn play style but pragmatism is a pursuit of winning by adapting to your opponents and giving yourself the best possible chance to win (in your lineup and via your in-game changes) which is a quality southgate is very poor at while deschamps excels in this sense.
11:35 That reaction from Rory😂😂
Always love seeing Suga Sean 😍
So do we!
Watching the Ronaldo segment the day after he nabs a brace for Portugal lol. The lad knows how to score.
Against Ireland 😂
@alexladbrook5740, here we go. No matter what he does.. it's the same old story with some people.
Same, idk if he gets top scorer, but he'll get goals
@@alexladbrook5740it's still 2 goals mate, this isn't rugby, or basketball, you don't score 20 times. By your standards Harry & kylian should score more than 5 against them
What have you made of his performances this tournament?
20:11 Ronaldo proved last night he’s still got a lot to offer
27:39 Palmer probably will be on the bench to start but he shouldn’t be, honestly think we need to stop gassing up Foden he doesn’t do it for England
500% agree with you..
Don't waste the minutes on the pitch by waiting Foden become good because it wouldn't happened as we can see the game against Iceland with Southgate kept him on the pitch for full 90 but still nothing change on his game.
Tournament football can't be made as trial for player to up his level when in friendly he has been given but can not live up to the expectation.
If he can't do it in friendly and in qualifier mean you can not sacrifice the whole team for him unless he is the Son of God.
Agree with both, I've a bit more strongly than the other, but still. This was Phil first proper season, first time he actual proved himself, so whereas previously came because if talent, he's now there on form & exp, & that might help him play well, finally, because if he doesn't turn up
Your Palmer shout has aged well. Not sure the same can be said for Ronaldo!
Love the shout Rory but as a Belgian, I fear Trossard won't get enough minutes to compete for the golden boot. I get saying 'KDB is past his prime', ofcourse he is, but he's not washed yet. I still believe he can turn up as a leader 1 last time.
Ya, he wasn't even starting for arsenal till latent, but point is, he gets clutch goals. Idk how many he got this year, pl or overall, but I'd guess 10-15, 5 must've been against big teams like man u & Munich, or a crucial goal, like a winner/draw, opener or goal to get them back in in a tight game
& in tourney football, you often have tight games, where you need someone to pull it out of the bag. So even if he's cunning if the bench, he might end up grabbing a few goals
Here after havertz scored a goal n got an assist in the first game 😂😂😂
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Rory is the most biased football fan I’ve ever seen in my life he’s up there with Lewis Bowden from pitchside. Winners will be France, Golden Boot will be Mbappe, Top Assister will be Wirtz and Player of the tournament is Mbappe. Also let’s stop pretending England and France are on the same level cause it’s not even close. They aren’t even better than Germany or Portugal
I'm not English and England on paper absolutely have a better team than Germany and Portugal. The only concern England have is LB and Shaw will be back in time for the knockouts, the other two have problems of their own. England's team is fantastic, the only thing holding them back is Southgate. Both their starting XI and squad depth are on another level compared to anyone other than France and its still close between those two. You can highlight weaknesses for both such as at RB for France and both have injury concerns. Deschamps however is a far better manager than Southgate.
I can’t wait for none of these to be correct just like last euros
@@areebsiddiqui758I think Germany have a better defence with kimmich rudiger tah/schlotterbeck Neuer and David raum
When it comes to midfield it depends if you want to compare as individuals or as a group. Individually England has a better midfield but as a group kroos gundogan, Musiala, writz, grob, and muller is way more balanced and then I’d give England the attack.
I just don’t think France will do well this tournament
@@areebsiddiqui758 England defensively are poor. Don't bring me guys like Guehi and Dunk(they are mid-table fodder). Germany with Rudiger and Tah(invincible season at Leverkusen) have a better defence and slightly better midfield with Kroos, Gundogan and Andrich. Portugal also have a better defence and midfield than England with Antonio Silva, Inacio, Ruben dias, whilst having good fullback options on both sides. Midfield wise they have Vitinha, Bernardo, Bruno, Palhinha, even youngsters like Joao Neves(been very good for Benfica). England have a better attack but that's pretty much it.
GREAT EPISODE 🤙🏼
Suga!! Love it, always has me laughing 😂👏🏽
Love this...was thinking I want to change my Player Of The Tournament shout...Im going Toni Kroos, they'll give it to him out of respect for his entire career.
They HAVE to win it though Rorz!
That's what they do with Oscars & balloon door etc, but for 1 tourney, nah, unless it's a real close call surg him vs ska or jamal etc. But if Germany go out early & he does nothing
@@sugashaundon't have to win per se, but semi at least
Winner: Portugal
Dark Horse: Austria/Spain
POTT: Bruno
YPOTT: Yamal
Top Assist: Griezmann
Golden Boot: Ronaldo
Always lovely seeing English fans/people get all hyped up and then be disappointed again.
They aren't close to France. In fact, I would say both Germany and Portugal have a better chance to win it.
They've got so many issues in the squad, and especially in the defense which they say wins you titles.
Not to mention they aren't as good as they think up front either.....
Also that group is definitely not 9 points (7:37)
I don't even think they'll get 7 to be honest.
It goes France,Portugal,Germany then England
@@Allwin-lz6yj
Nah, Germany have a bigger chance than Portugal maybe even than France. Portugal always implodes due to issues in the squad, especially with Cristiano now that shouldn't even be playing but will be. That will cause massive friction. Not to mention they have the biggest loser as a coach that completely shit to bed with Belgium's golden generation team. Germany are also at home and almost have a flawless squad.
Maignan, konate, saliba, Theo Hernandez , tchouemeni , mbappe all get into the England team 😂
Winner of the tournament will be from that Portugal vs. Germany Semi.
If Ronaldo and Neto start; Bruno Fernandas is gonna have a freakish tournament.
Dark Horse? Denmark, Denmark will surprise England in the groups.
Underachievers, Sadly Netherlands, Koeman's favouritism & that midfield getting gutted is gonna hurt them but if they play a 3412 with Weffier, Veerman, Xavi in midfield and Frimpong as an attacking Wingback, they'll be find but Koeman, Man.
Playmaker; Griezmann.
TopScorer;- Højlund.
Good call, this! Are you standing by your prediction?
They are all saying CR7 is washed but he’ll be the top scorer lol
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Trippier provides nothing from the left and defensively he’s been very vulnerable this year at Newcastle. Hopefully Shaw gets fit to play early
But he won't, not in early stages. England whole left sode is weak, is why the big argument is so you put best players out, or best in position, ie where does Phil play
Has the channel name changed 🤔
Changed sponsor
No, just sponsor, from 1 betting co to another. Idk of its just for euro or it it'll be for the next while season, is not like tv deal.
We should have Grealish .. as back up for foden on the left. Grealish is responsible for the last 3 goals England have scored. (All
The ones against against Bosnia)
We've missed him.
Pragmatic means dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations.
So Flex was actually correct when he said Southgate is too pragmatic.
Rory once again giving us an iconic moment 😂
Big up Rory
That is not was Flex was saying. He was confusing pragmatic with conservative. Pragmatism essentially means practicality and adaptability. In a footballing context its used to mean managers who can make changes according to the evolving situation of a game. So the opposite of managers that are rigid and stuck in their ways. They were both wrong but Rory was slightly closer.
So Rory was right then?
@@areebsiddiqui758 so "pragmatic" has a different definition when used in football?
@@what9331 No, it's just usually used in a very certain context. Regarding managers who can change things on the fly according to match situations and practicality over theory and principles.
Are they serious? Comparing France with England when Germany and Portugal have a better squad than England?
Shhhh, you have to give the English their dream 🤫
No they don't. & tell me where Germany & Portugal have finished in tourney in the last few years vs England
@@kurtsudheim825
Only two editions ago Portugal were the european champions, two years earlier Germany were world champions 🍻
@@kurtsudheim825 Portugal just won it in 2016. They now don’t have Fernando Santos he is even worse than southgate
Rory’s become so accustomed to talking waffle for views he can’t have a genuine discussion anymore without chucking out absolute guff
Winner - Portugal
Top scorer - Ronaldo
Top assist - Trent
Pott- Writz
How can they discount Italy they beat us
Need to see more of sugashaun he talks sense
I've only seen him in 1/2 vid on 888 before, he didn't make a lot of sense there, & he said he thinks Ivan Tony, who did 4 goals in half a season, & 1/2 of those were fk or pen, would do a better job than Ronaldo, so far he's made very little sense to me
England look too weak defensively. People keep saying that “this is the best chance we’ve had for decades.” You can’t tell me this England side is better than the golden generation with Terry and Ferdinand at the back, lampard in midfield etc. it’s silly. Also, no one mentioned Netherlands as dark horses, which is surprising because they have got a sneaky strong squad (don’t think they will win it but definitely dark horse worthy). France squad definitely stronger than England of paper, but we are still in with a chance
Yes, agreed that the Netherlands are a dark horse. Their last three friendlies, against Scotland, Canada and Iceland, they all won with 4-0 (while England lost against Iceland with 1-0 and France drew 0-0 against Canada; not saying that friendlies say everything but they also don’t say nothing, if you know what I mean).
People say they have a very strong defense, but that they don’t have a strong attack, only Memphis as a striker. But not only is Memphis doing quite well now, it’s simply not true that the Netherlands depend on their one striker. Their entire front is pretty strong and flexibel, they can all score and give great assists.
Before the 2022 world cup i predicted that England will have a complete top class players in all position at the 2024 Euro. But everything change when those under-21 champions squad of players were not playing in their clubs and have to become bench warmer or playing in kid's football.
Please remember this words :
The fall of England national team was done by its clubs.
Spain, Germany, France always nurturing their past under-21 champions player well and every of them later become their national team best player with an exception only happened in England when its own trophy winner young player was wasted.
The only chance England has is with Bellingham. You ask him where he wants to play, then you build it around him. If he wants to play winger, you play him winger. If he wants to play keeper, Pickford’s in the bench. If he wants to play 10 and crash the box, you let him crash the box. Plain and simple. He’s the only one in England who’s in Madrid, the best team in the world and he’s undoubtedly their best player with Vini. He’s a Ballon d’Or favorite, and wherever he wants to play he plays. He doesn’t need to sacrifice for someone like Cole Palmer, who’s older and way worse than him. He doesn’t need to sacrifice his game for someone like Foden, who’s older and way worse than him. That’s how England wins. You ask him, “Ayo Jude, where’d you want to play man?” After he gives his answer, you call in the scrubs to fill out the team
Calm down lad. Bellingham is class, but he ain't Zidane/Messi/R9.
He's not at "pass the ball to Jude" levels.
Foden's using major trophy medals as coasters at this point.
TAA has completed club football.
England need to build around Bellingham/Foden/TAA. Let these winners cook.
@@chrismcgregor272 he’s the best thing your team has seen in a long time. He’s the closest thing England has to a true superstar in a long time. Best thing to do is keep him sweet.
And I’m just saying facts, he’s in conversations with Mbappé and Vinicius Jr. and them people. They better keep him happy and all that if they want a shot to win. He’s better and younger than most of the squad. That’s just a fact. He’s playing in Real Madrid, and is instrumental to their double. But I do acknowledge that he’s not really leagues over the others. That was just hyperbole to prove a point.
@@BiggestChungus21 Bellingham was lucky Mbappe didnt get bored of the blank cheques last summer. Big Jude would have sat on the big bench most of the season otherwise. OAP's Kroos/Modric were ahead of him in his natural position 8.
Bellingham is a brilliant player. He is definitely a key player for England. Again tho, he ain't Zidane/Messi/R9 levels yet. He isn't going to singlehandedly drag England to a trophy.
Bellingham is going to need Foden/TAA on it. Just like he needed Vini Jr and Kroos.
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For England it's Jude that always delivered and live up to the expectation.
Please tell me the matches that Foden is man of the match on England shirt?
Twice he was given the chances to play in his favoured position and he failed in those chances. Do you think everyone in England jave to sacrifice for him for the 3rd time? Was he English Son of God?
@@ronnyron4681 You cant blame Foden for Southgate's lack of tactical management or act like England are smashing it every game without Foden 😂.
Foden just missed the games against Iran/Senegal level opponents, through injury or Southgate sticking with players he likes, so hasn't had the fortune of ripping up some Iranian plumber or Senegalese making a living in the 26th ranked league in Europe.
Bellingham played his natural 8 role throughout the last tournament.
He had some good games Iran/Senegal and some poor ones ie USA/France.
I'm sure if Foden starts, in the 10 role every game, he will have 1 or 2 great games and 1 or 2 poor games. That's how it is for all the players under Southgate.
Atleast they kept the theme song
RIP to 888 sport guess. Must of been living under a rock
Do you know if it's just different sponsor for euro, or is it completely new sponsor for a few years, ie will it go into next season
Slovenia is so miserly at the back and has a 🧱 at the goal post
3:43 say that to the Netherlands
Someone tell Rory what Pragmatic means! 🤣 COME ON ENGLAND!!!
😂😂😂
He's correct though, as much as i dunt like to admot it (flex is right 99% of the time. But less so here, though they meant it in different ways), in that ot means adapting to rl situation, I'm not a Gareth hater, he's done a lot of good, in the last few years, though more off the pitch than on it, like dealing with press, selecting players but from traditional big boys etc but he's not a tactical genius, & this makes him an idealist (the opposite of a pragmatist): he will not change his plans until forced to. He won't mess around with personnel, or style until 1-0 down with 10min to go
i really believe Holland are in with a chance
Their my dark horse, but not to win it. They always fluff their lines, really should have a wc.
Great shout!
Why is no one talking about playing Gomez at left back played there loads this season
Possibly the worst option
How? Please explain
Better option than Trippier?
@@ThePlaylistFootball going off the performances this tournament yes
I’ve got a feeling England will struggle. Three of their first-choice defenders (Stones, Guehi and Shaw) aren’t match fit and concerned none of the forwards, with the exception of Gordon, like to run in behind. Hope I’m wrong!
Rory is the most annoying fan i have ever seen. Hate and delusion have a limit too. Imagine saying havertz have more chance of not scoring than winning the golden boot. Average no 9 will score atleast one goal playing for germany FFS. Netherlands have more chance of winning euro than england IMO😂😂😂
Why are they saying Ronaldo’s lost it did they not see him against Ireland ???
What have you made to his tournament so far?
@@ThePlaylistFootball decent, everyone is highlighting his ‘missed penalty’ even though it was on target decent playment but great save stopped it.
@@eddlovesskiing Took guts to step up for the first penalty in the shootout after that miss.
Rory has made a fool of himself so much that no sensible person can take him seriously anymore
Shaun the GOAT
Havertz had a good season but they will be the first to say Jackson was awful who outdone havertz in every way
Jackson is underrated!
19:47 Difference between a typical twitter user and actual common sense
Holland are definitely my dark horse, but they always fluff their lines, they really should have at least 1 wc, so they won't win it
Is have a little bet ska could get most g&a, but not either individually
People sleeping on Netherlands
I'm sorry but Koopmieneers, De Jong, Hartman are injured, Plus Koeman is an Donkey.
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Sorry, but you’re a good example of what the op is talking about 🙂
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England don’t have good enough defenders to sit back against a good attack trippier and walker 1 v 1 defensively are getting shredded
Dunk and guehi or Gomez won’t cut it and if stones comes back from his illness he’ll probably go back to the hospital cause of injuries
There is more England players in a combined 11 is insane 🤣 the goalkeeper and defense alone is all France
They say Portugal have a great set of players but they wont win because the coach doesnt know how to put them playing well togheter but..they put England as favourites..a team that doesnt play an atractive football mostly because..their coach is pretty weak.Makes sense😅.
Portugal actually play very well together they have the balance and they have depth
pickford trent stones guehi gomez rice bellingham foden gordon kane saka
Ronaldo brace today LFG
No goals so far...
Combined 11 more English players rather than France players the delusion is mad seem to forget those france players made the final off the world cup😂😂😂
There is no way that England wins the Euros or any international tournament for that matter.
France, Germany or Croatia will win the euros.
Havertz season has been better then everyone in a Chelsea shirt apart from Cole Palmer
Griezmann wil get the most assists, i mean he has Mbappe in his team
God these people are daft. They're talking about KDB like he hasn't come back from 6 months out and major leg surgery THIS SEASON. Obviously he wouldn't be playing 90 mins every fucking game after coming back.
England are the fifth favorites first four being France Germany Portugal and Spain
i say this because England are overloaded with best attackers but their defense are decent at best.
come out of delusion
Rory doesn't know the meaning of pragmatic
Trent most assists.
Not looking likely at this stage...
Rory's such a plum. At least acknowledge Havertz was getting settled in to a new team and apply context...
Wth aint no way palmer is better than bellingham
Is this… 888…?
New name, same great debate!
Reckon France will win , Croatia dark horses 👍🏼
She's a 6 but supports Arsenal
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France has the better team
whoever invited this female on the show needs to be fired. Added literally nothing to the video.
Can channels stop giving Rory a platform. Professional waffler, I'd get better football insight from a mums facebook group
Damn rory actually has negative ball knowledge. I didnt think it was possible 😂 or hes a grown man thay acts like a 5 year old to get clicks. Whichever one it is, its embarrassing. Low and behold havertz scored in the first game 😂
For the first time in history, Rory is right... Kai Havertz didn't have a good season. People are so quick to forget how poor this guy was in the beginning of the season
Yes, but thank God Nicole was there as i was ready to scream, because the first half of the season DOESN'T DUCKING MATTER! his firm 12 months ago is completely irrelevant, it's how he's been of late, that's what you use to predict how he might play NOW. & it wasn't a great season, but it was decent, & esp when you consider that he was in & out the team, moved around, but once he got into the right position, he did fairly well
He wasn't bad in the first half. Luke 10 bad games then 10 fine ones and the rest he's been so clutch. Amazing stats and has G/A per game. For Germany too he's very good. Rory cannot handle it lmao
Yeah Rory😅 the irony of you smugly pointing out that one of doesn't know what pragmatic means, & it's you😂
English delusion.
Portugal bigger nation, better squad, and won it so hold that
These lot on the panel are so arrogant about England that they've won f all always fail never learn 😂
England favourites 😂😂😂😂😂😂
They can still win it!