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  • Опубликовано: 29 янв 2025

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  • @vianabdullah2837
    @vianabdullah2837 7 месяцев назад +3747

    The moment Denji said he wanted sex, we all should've expected it to end in the worst way imaginable.

    • @aleisinwndrlen7113
      @aleisinwndrlen7113 7 месяцев назад +333

      Knowing Fujimoto, this most definitely could've ended way worse than it already did.

    • @enzoarayamorales7220
      @enzoarayamorales7220 7 месяцев назад +107

      @@aleisinwndrlen7113honestly I do think it’s gonna end really badly the next chapter like she for sure gonna rip it off next

    • @vasa_kot
      @vasa_kot 7 месяцев назад +12

      its not that bad

    • @_Lumiere_
      @_Lumiere_ 7 месяцев назад +58

      @@vasa_kot Yeah, this is pretty tame for CSM, isnt it? It's a great scene and I do really feel bad for Denji and Asa here, but it shouldnt be controversial just because we see some bodily fluids.

    • @aleisinwndrlen7113
      @aleisinwndrlen7113 7 месяцев назад +13

      ​@@_Lumiere_ Twitter basically reacted the same way Asa did back during the falling devil arc.

  • @MM-fw3wr
    @MM-fw3wr 7 месяцев назад +3565

    This chapter is going to filter out a lot of people from Chainsaw Man but I have 100% belief that Fujimoto is going to take this in a groundbreaking direction just let him cook

    • @tomasavendanozacarias5205
      @tomasavendanozacarias5205 7 месяцев назад +150

      i just think that this has been a doujin with some shoenen fights since the beginning

    • @WeebGuru6
      @WeebGuru6 7 месяцев назад +5

      Oh yea 💯

    • @LemanNz1993
      @LemanNz1993 7 месяцев назад +283

      I'm actually glad that people are pissed off or getting offended by this chapter, i hope they all drop the manga, the amount of stupidity posts im getting in my time line in Twitter is absurd. It feels like we're reading 2 different mangas

    • @1922_kinda_girl
      @1922_kinda_girl 7 месяцев назад +137

      I think people are just tired of seeing Denji get sexually abused like how many times is fujimoto gonna do this💀

    • @godo4687
      @godo4687 7 месяцев назад +37

      When I was opening this chapter I literally thought "csm is going kinda slow, but let's see if Fujimoto cooked this time"

  • @mattb.7079
    @mattb.7079 7 месяцев назад +2772

    Post-nut clarity Denji is gonna be a whole different character💀

    • @akifhossain5122
      @akifhossain5122 7 месяцев назад +131

      He finna be the GOAT 🗣️🗣️

    • @axelnebula6975
      @axelnebula6975 7 месяцев назад

      Hell be like: UMM...well horny over. Nayuta needs saving

    • @Khn_2102
      @Khn_2102 7 месяцев назад +38

      Or it might go the other way 💀

    • @n4ko
      @n4ko 7 месяцев назад +47

      hes gonna find illumination for like 5 minutes

    • @Deca777-g3o
      @Deca777-g3o 7 месяцев назад +13

      Is not the Best post nut clarity, in fact is the worst but denji never has any luck ever and asa and yoru and not the most sane not the Best looking ever

  • @Fuzzyslipperzz
    @Fuzzyslipperzz 7 месяцев назад +2578

    Denji's post nut clarity will him help lock in and look for Nayuta lol

    • @MichaelMyers87
      @MichaelMyers87 7 месяцев назад +63

      I was thinking this as well lol.

    • @TamerJamal-op6ym
      @TamerJamal-op6ym 7 месяцев назад +28

      chapter gave me doujinshi ptsd, but it is more raw because we have followed their journey now for like 2 years i think (at least for asa).

    • @warudos
      @warudos 7 месяцев назад +19

      Yall dont know a 16 year olds sex drive. If you think this'll wake him up.

    • @INCOGNITO-iq4qy
      @INCOGNITO-iq4qy 7 месяцев назад +11

      Nah its gonna be those post nut guilt because instead of searching or feeling bad for Nayuta he doing this instead.

    • @Mroquelle
      @Mroquelle 7 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@warudosWho said they were finished?

  • @badpiggy4177
    @badpiggy4177 7 месяцев назад +1466

    I do think what happened to Yoru was interesting
    She basically felt Asa's lust, but didn't have the knowledge of how to control it
    And so she acted on it
    Obviously doesn't make it okay, just interesting that Asa and Yoru are becoming one

    • @aleisinwndrlen7113
      @aleisinwndrlen7113 7 месяцев назад +171

      Makes sense for her to feel Asa's lust, as they shared half a brain together. As much as Asa tries to suppress it, she can't deny human nature.

    • @cream9292
      @cream9292 7 месяцев назад +48

      i feel like asa just actually doesn't exist. Like her and Yoru are the same person. All the other horsemen have physical human forms and even after being eaten, makima just became nayuta, so it wouldn't make sense for war to need to become a fiend. Yoru is just a projection of asa with no inhibitions, which is why no one can see any difference between them and why they sorta melded together in this chapter

    • @lainsr
      @lainsr 7 месяцев назад +144

      ​@@cream9292 please never cook again worst theory i read on internet

    • @Zen-zt4uk
      @Zen-zt4uk 7 месяцев назад +15

      @@cream9292 I don't... what?

    • @cream9292
      @cream9292 7 месяцев назад +20

      @@lainsr don't come back when my cooking turns out to be right.
      don't come back when denji decides he's done with women and becomes a femboy enjoyer.
      stay on that side

  • @BillRussell-tronm
    @BillRussell-tronm 7 месяцев назад +219

    I've seen alot of people saying things like "we get it denji and Asa have trauma we don't need to keep seeing it" that's not how it works. People who experience trauma are not able to just stop running into it the rest of their lives. Rather they actively seek it willingly or unwillingly because of the feelings of familiarity. Fujimoto isn't just trying to make a point he's showing the reality of life following traumatic events.

    • @ForReal_Lauren
      @ForReal_Lauren 7 месяцев назад +3

      💯

    • @kemanie74pasahii37
      @kemanie74pasahii37 7 месяцев назад +5

      Yea people are seeing this and acting like denji is a freak or that fujimoto is a weirdo like he hasnt been building this plot from the beginning. You dont just get over getting groomed and manipulated by multiple women in a short few month time skip 😭

  • @ilikethis3203
    @ilikethis3203 7 месяцев назад +577

    I genuinely choked and spat out Diet Coke during my read. The people around me where confused while I was choking and shouting on the train "Oh my god" and "What the fuck?"

    • @n4ko
      @n4ko 7 месяцев назад +19

      same here. im lucky I was alone because I was screaming... An only time experience reading a manga xD
      Every page went even further I truly was shouting WTF

    • @vendetta548
      @vendetta548 7 месяцев назад +10

      they faces killing me why nby gaf

    • @Paradoxicallibility
      @Paradoxicallibility 7 месяцев назад +22

      Why is bro reading chainsawman in a train doe 💀💀

    • @ilikethis3203
      @ilikethis3203 7 месяцев назад +7

      @Paradoxicallibility cus bro goes outside and has a job that requires bro to commute by train 💀💀

    • @Paradoxicallibility
      @Paradoxicallibility 7 месяцев назад +15

      @@ilikethis3203 No like chainsaw man is the last shonen you wanna read in public 💀💀

  • @animeanxiety
    @animeanxiety 7 месяцев назад +195

    It’s crazy how with the insane scene happening I was for some reason super fixated on Yorus weird reaction to it all the most. You’re on point with your breakdown of her potential identity crisis rn!

  • @gustavoburciaga6200
    @gustavoburciaga6200 7 месяцев назад +483

    This was absolutely the most Chainsaw Man chapter I have ever seen!

  • @singleplayerhearts7272
    @singleplayerhearts7272 7 месяцев назад +1208

    We aint making it to animation with this one bois

    • @chungo_016
      @chungo_016 7 месяцев назад +74

      Yeah i bet mappa isnt gonna animate this

    • @suthinicoudibtdecid
      @suthinicoudibtdecid 7 месяцев назад

      evangelion did, who says csm can't?

    • @KuzaMando
      @KuzaMando 7 месяцев назад

      You think so?...​@@chungo_016

    • @pointlessless2656
      @pointlessless2656 7 месяцев назад +62

      By 2030 Mappa is gping become even more unhinged I'm telling you

    • @mjsansantossoaresferreirad7159
      @mjsansantossoaresferreirad7159 7 месяцев назад +62

      Evangelion did it and if not by mappa then fuck mappa

  • @FearlessGamer27
    @FearlessGamer27 7 месяцев назад +755

    Never have I seen a chapter divide people like this.

  • @cristianaoliveira750
    @cristianaoliveira750 7 месяцев назад +953

    dude, poor denji, the guy is always being taken advantage of... also asa, the horror on her face when she noticed what yoru did is so sad

    • @aleisinwndrlen7113
      @aleisinwndrlen7113 7 месяцев назад +152

      Yeah, this chapter only makes me feel bad for Asa tbh. Like, girl had no idea of what was happening, and had no control over her own body, and yet she basically had violated herself. I feel like Fujimoto is just trying to make her suffer as much as Dennis.

    • @cream9292
      @cream9292 7 месяцев назад +28

      @@aleisinwndrlen7113 i feel like asa just actually doesn't exist. Like her and Yoru are the same person. All the other horsemen have physical human forms and even after being eaten, makima just became nayuta, so it wouldn't make sense for war to need to become a fiend. Yoru is just a projection of asa with no inhibitions, which is why no one can see any difference between them and why they sorta melded together in this chapter

    • @theamazingcowlet
      @theamazingcowlet 7 месяцев назад +25

      Don't they have a contract tho? Yoru took Asa's body under the promise that she will defeat chainsaw man with it, and although I don't think these two will ever split it is not exactly like Yoru is a 100% reincarnated devil

    • @flappyflap2693
      @flappyflap2693 7 месяцев назад +2

      shit is funny as fuck

    • @cream9292
      @cream9292 7 месяцев назад +19

      @@theamazingcowlet its made to mirror denji's contract with pochita, but denji had prior interaction with pochita, while asa only met yoru the moment she was dying. yoru has never been shown to be an entity outside asa, unlike denji and pochita.
      considering all that it makes me think asa actually is 100% devil since birth, like nayuta, but she's just been winter soldier 'inactive' till she almost got killed in her first devil appearance, which is when the war devil in her got activated

  • @deliii395
    @deliii395 7 месяцев назад +683

    This chapter was great with interesting implications for the future for our 3 characters.
    1. Asa was essentially SA'd by what went down between Yoru & denji. Throughout the chapter this was the source of anxiety.
    2. Denji thinks it's Asa
    3. Yoru remembering the kiss that nayuta erased from memory and trying to connect with it.
    In conclusion, I feel like this is going to have major repurcussion. Asa & Denji have so much compatibility and chemistry, this really adds an extra layer of mess between them. This chapter also put into perspective just how dangerous it is for Asa to lose her body to Yoru. Yoru wanted to fight chainsaw man but it is now when she follows her instinct for craving love and intimacy(probably through Asa's human emotions but without the conscience/ morality of Asa) that she becomes a truly dangerous entity to Asa and Denji.

    • @simpoly6929
      @simpoly6929 7 месяцев назад +8

      Well said

    • @johancito16345
      @johancito16345 7 месяцев назад +48

      Like, both denji and asa where SA by yoru technically

    • @Mroquelle
      @Mroquelle 7 месяцев назад +7

      Calling it "basically SA" feels a bit reductive.

    • @boserboser6870
      @boserboser6870 7 месяцев назад +36

      ​@@Mroquelledenji was definitely SA'd (apart of the grooming theme) if you dont think so reread the chapter and notice how denji was disassociating after a small opposition
      Asa was forced into the situation by yoru which can be interperpreted as sa. We'll see if it's followed up though.

    • @naughtyhieroglyph669
      @naughtyhieroglyph669 7 месяцев назад +3

      I suspect that Nayuta is still alive, and when she finds out.... Oh boy...

  • @therealeikichionizuka
    @therealeikichionizuka 7 месяцев назад +515

    the people asking for sex in chainsaw man when they get sex in chainsaw man:

    • @Marlinkz_
      @Marlinkz_ 7 месяцев назад +57

      this is in no way sex

    • @akifhossain5122
      @akifhossain5122 7 месяцев назад +186

      You missed the 'assault' part 💀☠️

    • @therealeikichionizuka
      @therealeikichionizuka 7 месяцев назад +8

      @@akifhossain5122 true

    • @micu8942
      @micu8942 7 месяцев назад

      But like have they just forgotten that himeno almost had seggs with a minor?
      And now that someone with the same age as denji is doing it, everyone freaks out?

    • @TheTrueJ836
      @TheTrueJ836 7 месяцев назад +24

      ​@Marlinkz_ I mean, technically it wasn't sex, but it was a sexual act.

  • @salt.2650
    @salt.2650 7 месяцев назад +1337

    Fuji the first guy to make a 2-way SA

    • @classicslayer456
      @classicslayer456 7 месяцев назад +70

      Nah Joss Whedon did it 25 years ago

    • @kotorandcorvid4968
      @kotorandcorvid4968 7 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@classicslayer456What happened exactly?

    • @classicslayer456
      @classicslayer456 7 месяцев назад

      @@kotorandcorvid4968 a character took control of the main characters body and fucked her boyfriend afterwards

    • @dumflame
      @dumflame 7 месяцев назад +4

      That describes it but also doesn’t at the same time

    • @classicslayer456
      @classicslayer456 7 месяцев назад +128

      ​@@kotorandcorvid4968 a villain took control of the main characters body and slept with her boyfriend. The boyfriend didn't know.

  • @mattb.7079
    @mattb.7079 7 месяцев назад +293

    I think this is pretty much the worst thing that could've possibly happened for Denji, Asa and their relationship. Retrospectively, knowing Fujimoto's writing, it was bound to happen - Denji's ever-present horniness, a lost girl and a manipulative demon sharing one body... - even though it's astounding how radical he went with it. This is without a doubt the turning point of the story, this is what this whole part has been building towards up till now in the same way as Aki's death - this is the moment of brutal disillusionment when you realize things will never be the same anymore. There's this same cruelty and perversion in the writing: Fujimoto places all the elements for us to hope for the characters and their future, and then took it away in an instant. We know Asa has feelings for Denji, and the sexual attraction Yoru experienced definitely comes from Asa since they share the same brain, but Yoru's unrestrained and manipulative nature prematurely forced what should've happened naturally and thereby scarred (maybe destroyed?) their relationship forever... It's probably an unpopular opinion, but it elevated the story as a whole so much for me; it feels like the last piece of the puzzle has been put in place for us to finally understand the true point and direction of Part 2

    • @Chvyce
      @Chvyce 7 месяцев назад +8

      I just find that chapter hot

    • @Khn_2102
      @Khn_2102 7 месяцев назад +34

      ​@@ChvyceIs this Denji's alt account?

    • @Chvyce
      @Chvyce 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Khn_2102 excellent question 🤔 🤣🤣🤣

    • @dari9345
      @dari9345 7 месяцев назад +22

      I completely agree with you. I feel people that see this chapter as bad, are taking it at face value, lacking the whole context and the deepness of what just actually happened. It's not meant to be taken as a fetish or something good, it does have a purpose for the story and it wasn't out of the blue either.
      I also don't see why people are so divided by this chapter, it may be pretty explicit visually, but regular body fluids are nowhere near as gross, for example, the vomit scene, which was at the start of part 1, waaay before Chainsaw Man actually became pretty popular, so I don't see how this interaction was the turning point, when it's not as gross as other things we've seen. It's a great chapter because of what it implies for the story, and I don't really think people are seeing what it's supposed to mean, they are just seeing the freaky interaction at face value and calling the manga weird for that.

    • @handle-test-yt
      @handle-test-yt 7 месяцев назад

      dawg he showed the cream 💀💀💀‼️‼️

  • @Travis_20098
    @Travis_20098 7 месяцев назад +352

    That actually describes pretty well how chaotic first sexual interactions between teenagers are, for some it may be uncomfortable or unexpected, but it really isn't that surprising, especially for Chainsaw Man

    • @Darkskindeity
      @Darkskindeity 7 месяцев назад +27

      Yeah i feel like alot of the ppl complaining about this chapter are just children lol

    • @soysource3218
      @soysource3218 7 месяцев назад +22

      @@Darkskindeity
      For some reason they also haven't read Chainsaw Man before reading chapter 167 because this is Fujimoto's usual pacing and antics.

    • @murderman8578
      @murderman8578 7 месяцев назад +7

      Never had a sexual experience as a teenager

    • @Travis_20098
      @Travis_20098 7 месяцев назад +23

      @@murderman8578 I'm sorry (?) but what I was referring to is in general they're very rushed and chaotic, enjoyable and everything, but not exactly romantic, in first person my first experiences were kinda fucked up

    • @Empty58931
      @Empty58931 7 месяцев назад +1

      You really don't have to remind me of that... I was the same age as them drunk on the beach late night after a party with a not even attractive girl and kinda did that but with roles reversed...

  • @SadBirbHours
    @SadBirbHours 7 месяцев назад +86

    The lack of media literacy I've seen surrounding this chapter has actually caused me to lose sleep.
    Yes Denji was SA'd
    Yes Asa was SA'd
    Yes it was messed up.
    Yes thats the point.
    Yes a running theme throughout the entirety of Chainsaw man is Denji being manipulated and abused by older women.

    • @vomilksined8047
      @vomilksined8047 7 месяцев назад

      Will ask Denji what he thinks about it in next chap 😂

    • @mikey.love.
      @mikey.love. 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@vomilksined8047 Yeah well he can barely comprehend what happened in the next chapter

    • @chocolatemuchie8403
      @chocolatemuchie8403 7 месяцев назад +4

      Like in the context of this: art is either suppose to comfort the disturb or disturb the comforted

    • @goawaygosh
      @goawaygosh 7 месяцев назад

      Fujimoto once again inserting his fetishes into his story. Based mangaka is based.

    • @rafesarafesa8097
      @rafesarafesa8097 7 месяцев назад

      You know perfectly well that the SA issue will not given any kind of importance in the manga.

  • @cedricwine
    @cedricwine 7 месяцев назад +133

    I was laughing while reading this manga not because of the story.
    I laughed because i imagine the faces of lin and everyone at mangaplus when fujimoto give the draft.
    I bet fujimoto gave a more graphic draft and this one is the is the tamest.

    • @AB-dd4jz
      @AB-dd4jz 7 месяцев назад +6

      Knowing he draws doujin on his off time It's quite possible

    • @Bigblackguynumber9
      @Bigblackguynumber9 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@AB-dd4jz he does?

  • @matthewmellott1856
    @matthewmellott1856 7 месяцев назад +141

    Fire Punch is exactly why I feel this wasn’t as surprising for me.

    • @markk217
      @markk217 7 месяцев назад +26

      Chainsaw man part 1 is exactly why I feel this wasn’t surprising to me 🤷‍♂️

    • @irecordwithaphone1856
      @irecordwithaphone1856 7 месяцев назад +23

      ​@@markk217People were reading part 1 with the same blindfolds Makima used on the convicts

    • @soysource3218
      @soysource3218 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@irecordwithaphone1856
      The manga was building up to this point for ages and people were still surprised 💀
      To be fair it was probably more the pacing that surprised them as in how quickly it escalated.

    • @SunnysideFiend
      @SunnysideFiend 7 месяцев назад +3

      Fire Punch didn’t have much of the assault *shown* though, and same with Fujimoto’s other works.

  • @rygornspectre7142
    @rygornspectre7142 7 месяцев назад +310

    For the people who "didn't" see that coming ...
    We readin' the same manga?

    • @aleisinwndrlen7113
      @aleisinwndrlen7113 7 месяцев назад +30

      I expected it to happen at some point, but not this chapter, that's for sure.

    • @neverknewitbefore
      @neverknewitbefore 7 месяцев назад +26

      I expect something like this, tbh I thought worse, but what I didn't expect was it to go straight to it next chapter instead of some banter in-between the scenes about it. Just caught me off guard with how immediate it happened

    • @uroboloss
      @uroboloss 7 месяцев назад +31

      I didn't see it coming. It's not out of place for Chainsaw Man or any of Fujimoto's work but I wasn't expecting it at that moment.

    • @Bleeblooplu
      @Bleeblooplu 7 месяцев назад +4

      The manga has been a little slow these past couple of chapters so my expectations were very low. I did not see that coming

    • @bluefrenk1750
      @bluefrenk1750 7 месяцев назад +4

      We all saw him coming what u mean

  • @reiq4976
    @reiq4976 7 месяцев назад +256

    I just feel so much dread for Asa especially because She's the ne most in danger of being completely erased and isolated in conversations just like how both Denji & Yoru don't percieve Asa's consent. Denji cause he doesn't know that's not Asa. Yoru cause she doesn't care.

    • @MamaJoe-bl7vv
      @MamaJoe-bl7vv 7 месяцев назад +49

      Yoru is low-key the most terrifying villain in csm. Also, Yoru is the only one at fault in this situation.

    • @allrightformugiwara2656
      @allrightformugiwara2656 7 месяцев назад +43

      Idk, i think that when yoru kissed denji it's also because she shares the same emotions as asa, as a part of yoru want to kill csm and asa try to save denji, they have a lot of flaws but i think the last panel when we see that asa is back with yoru's eyes definitly means that they probably for the first time felt the same way and had the same goal as at the exterior they are just one

    • @aleisinwndrlen7113
      @aleisinwndrlen7113 7 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@MamaJoe-bl7vv I'm a bit torn between her and Fami. But Fami does have some good intentions at least, and she does seem to genuinely care about Denji and Asa to a degree. Yoru is literally just hell-bent on getting her revenge.

    • @aleisinwndrlen7113
      @aleisinwndrlen7113 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@allrightformugiwara2656 Or maybe it's just like a transition effect to signify Asa regaining control.

    • @cream9292
      @cream9292 7 месяцев назад +3

      i feel like asa just actually doesn't exist. Like her and Yoru are the same person. All the other horsemen have physical human forms and even after being eaten, makima just became nayuta, so it wouldn't make sense for war to need to become a fiend. Yoru is just a projection of asa with no inhibitions, which is why no one can see any difference between them and why they sorta melded together in this chapter

  • @mostfa1158
    @mostfa1158 7 месяцев назад +250

    That image will be stuck in my mind for a long time, i want it gone 🙂

    • @aleisinwndrlen7113
      @aleisinwndrlen7113 7 месяцев назад +9

      Thankfully the next chapter drops next week, so... fingers crossed.

    • @mostfa1158
      @mostfa1158 7 месяцев назад +61

      @@aleisinwndrlen7113 next chapter will be aki looking at denji from heaven and saying"that's my boy "

    • @kaiiheenjik1668
      @kaiiheenjik1668 7 месяцев назад +13

      I watched through evangelion before reading chainsaw man, this is light work.

    • @Darkskindeity
      @Darkskindeity 7 месяцев назад +3

      Lol you shouldnt be reading the manga if your underage lmfao😂

    • @mostfa1158
      @mostfa1158 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Darkskindeity im 18 bro, this year at least

  • @UliTroyo
    @UliTroyo 7 месяцев назад +41

    Also, I liked the detail that when Yoru loses control of the knife, it shrinks into a smaller pocket knife.

  • @onewingednugget7366
    @onewingednugget7366 7 месяцев назад +38

    I really kinda hope asa will tell denji the truth about Yoru. Our poor guy needs to at least know that if he didn't consent it wasn't asa.

  • @OneLuckyStriker
    @OneLuckyStriker 7 месяцев назад +407

    It's very telling how disgusted people are by this chapter, but Denji suffering all sorts of abuse and going to literal hell is fine and okay. I believe people are being hypocritical because they don't know how to deal with scenarios that we can all relate to, to a certain extent

    • @SunnysideFiend
      @SunnysideFiend 7 месяцев назад +53

      SA hits a lot closer to home for a lot of people than most of Denji’s trauma. And people who haven’t experienced it aren’t necessarily talking about this chapter with much tact. That’s why people are “over”reacting.

    • @scarf550
      @scarf550 7 месяцев назад +124

      @@SunnysideFiend Yeah but the thing is denji has been SA'd multiple times and nobody really acted like this.

    • @Chvyce
      @Chvyce 7 месяцев назад

      For real

    • @Chvyce
      @Chvyce 7 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@SunnysideFiend I just know that it's fiction...SA is not a joke however sometimes for plot if that's there...Then let Fujimoto cook

    • @Chvyce
      @Chvyce 7 месяцев назад +23

      ​@@scarf550FUCKING EXACTLY

  • @TheoVorster
    @TheoVorster 7 месяцев назад +71

    To further add onto the idea that Yoru/War has experienced some loss of identity, there's also the fact according to Yoru, Pochita/black Chainsaw Man previously devoured a part of War/Yoru when they last fought. So one could also view Asa as sorta completing and filling in what Yoru/War had previously lost. The nature of Asa and Yoru's situation, instead of the typical approach to possession narratives that treat the parties involved as separate individuals, could arguably now be better conceived of as analogous to like dissociative identity disorder, with Asa and Yoru being like alters of the same person.
    Also if anyone has read the comic "Saga" by Brian K. Vaughan and Fiona Staples, that comic also proposed the idea that the opposite of war isn't peace, but rather its opposite is "fucking"/making love. What you brought up in today's video reminded me of that.

  • @enzoarayamorales7220
    @enzoarayamorales7220 7 месяцев назад +14

    Sufferants I just love how you make things sounds more chilled out than they actually are

  • @jajes711
    @jajes711 7 месяцев назад +28

    I love this chapter even though it’s a difficult read. Chainsaw Man isn’t a fairy tale and Denji and Asa most likely won’t get their fairy tale ending. The hardest part now is the aftermath and seeing how Fujimoto handles this. Sexual assault is a sensitive topic so I hope he doesn’t glaze over it and play it off for laughs.

  • @mycah925
    @mycah925 7 месяцев назад +41

    honestly, it's so funny seeing all of the different reactions. like, i never read past volume 1 of Fire Punch and even i knew that this was some real Tatsuki Fujimoto shit. like, you can REALLY TELL who has read Fire Punch, Fujimoto vs who has read Look Back or Goodbye Eri, Fujimoto

    • @justapassingbycommenterrem5642
      @justapassingbycommenterrem5642 7 месяцев назад

      The amount of mindfuckery my mind went through with powerpunch, nothing more can surprise me from fujimotor tbh

  • @SnagTheRabbit
    @SnagTheRabbit 7 месяцев назад +120

    They keep SAing my boy 😭 Leave him alone!

    • @incognito5416
      @incognito5416 7 месяцев назад +1

      He liked it tho

    • @Apaxqt
      @Apaxqt 7 месяцев назад +11

      Look I’m not into chainsaw man but bro was clearly being manipulated

  • @ComposedSage75
    @ComposedSage75 7 месяцев назад +96

    Been waiting on your video on this. Yoru went for what Asa was too scared to do. She remembered the kiss she had with Denji cuz she felt affection for him. She doesn’t understand those feelings so it all kinda exploded the way it did.
    I do feel bad for Denji cuz he did envision finally getting to do that but not in the way he expected. He was basically SA’ed. Asa wasn’t in control so Yoru did it against her will. Also: *Evangelion reference* at the end.

    • @sonicwithglasses131
      @sonicwithglasses131 7 месяцев назад +1

      It doesnt count as SA bro, thats only for girls not dudes

    • @Duck-3
      @Duck-3 7 месяцев назад +28

      ​@@sonicwithglasses131 sonic wouldnt say that, you fiend.

    • @sonicwithglasses131
      @sonicwithglasses131 7 месяцев назад

      @@Duck-3 idgaf

    • @moonlight-wp8lq
      @moonlight-wp8lq 7 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@sonicwithglasses131Stop spreading misinformation

    • @sonicwithglasses131
      @sonicwithglasses131 7 месяцев назад

      @@moonlight-wp8lq there is no misinformation

  • @mrstickmantas
    @mrstickmantas 7 месяцев назад +33

    Mappa is gonna go CRAZY with this 💀

  • @-unknown7908
    @-unknown7908 7 месяцев назад +30

    I WAS WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO ALL DAY

  • @welmorfianvm4039
    @welmorfianvm4039 7 месяцев назад +59

    First thing next chapter, Denis is getting slapped in the face by that same hand, mark my words

    • @denji4740
      @denji4740 7 месяцев назад +9

      Lmao 🤣 I can’t I just imagined it too.

    • @ashester2276
      @ashester2276 7 месяцев назад +4

      this aint the average romance anime/manga
      lol, asa wouldn't slap him

  • @Mr.Eggthreal
    @Mr.Eggthreal 7 месяцев назад +31

    Denji losing his virginity quite literally made it more popular than JJK, Burrito, MHA finale and epilogue, and One Piece. Denjis climax is more popular than the climax of JJK 💀💀💀💀

  • @kingofthe_humanz8285
    @kingofthe_humanz8285 7 месяцев назад +8

    I just wanna point out that Yoru remembered what nayuta programmed her to forget. i think having a strong enough love for someone lets you resist control devil and maybe even fami's abilities. President Power was also able to resist control because of her strong love for denji, so maybe since Asa (and by extention Yoru cuz they feel the same emotions) loves denji so much it allowed them re-remember that date night.

  • @MoMbarek250
    @MoMbarek250 7 месяцев назад +41

    ONE OF THE CRAZIEST CHAPTERS
    fr tho, i did NOT expect that lol

  • @cyborgcuttlefish6326
    @cyborgcuttlefish6326 7 месяцев назад +8

    after reading this chapter, i was so excited for the video you were gonna drop

  • @saldinhoeywa1664
    @saldinhoeywa1664 7 месяцев назад +7

    Never was more curious about your analysis

  • @takanara7
    @takanara7 7 месяцев назад +7

    Yoru as a name isn't intrinsic to the war Devil, Asa found it awkward to keep calling her 戦争の悪魔 (Sensō no Akuma - literally 'demon of war') so she told Asa to call her Yoru, so it really is just a pun on Asa's name. But deeper then that Yoru's identity as "yoru" is intrinsically tied to her connection to Asa.

  • @77763y
    @77763y 7 месяцев назад +20

    it was so uncomfortable and i did not like it, i believe that was the purpose, so it was a good chapter since it achieved what it intended to.

  • @coelacant871
    @coelacant871 7 месяцев назад +27

    Ayo identity disorder theory? You sound like my therapist (im so sorry)

    • @coelacant871
      @coelacant871 7 месяцев назад +3

      This was a great video

  • @blacklark3546
    @blacklark3546 7 месяцев назад +4

    I actually had a similar theory before this but this is really good
    Asa could just be a representation of a split personality, that asa actually has always been war demon all her life, she just came out upon the time she had to use her power to heal from death

  • @Tricky-tl4bl
    @Tricky-tl4bl 7 месяцев назад +9

    No I completely thought of the same thing with the merging, lowkey this is a 3 way SA since pochita as well💀.

    • @Axodle
      @Axodle 7 месяцев назад +1

      I wonder what pochita was thinking in this scene.

  • @VihaanTandon-y1o
    @VihaanTandon-y1o 7 месяцев назад +21

    How this gonna get animated 😭💀💀

    • @pegeta
      @pegeta 7 месяцев назад

      with a lot of unqiue censoring

  • @thetruestar6348
    @thetruestar6348 7 месяцев назад +8

    I’m glad I don’t get CSM p2 leaks/spoilers chapters hit harder that way

  • @Chrisdish
    @Chrisdish 7 месяцев назад +51

    Would you say Denji made love not war...
    Or love to war?

    • @rygornspectre7142
      @rygornspectre7142 7 месяцев назад +8

      Love is war?

    • @aritrasaha441
      @aritrasaha441 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@rygornspectre7142kaguyasama?
      Is aka akasaka writing csm?

  • @NapstaMeme
    @NapstaMeme 7 месяцев назад +6

    1:34
    _Speaking of hands in pockets_

  • @CrescentMoonboi
    @CrescentMoonboi 7 месяцев назад +59

    HOLY SHIT EVANGELION REFERENCE 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏

    • @tngaming50
      @tngaming50 7 месяцев назад

      EVANGELION WW2 FLASHBACKS!!!

    • @Redofreko
      @Redofreko 7 месяцев назад +1

      this fr boutta be the start of the evangelion philosophical psychoanalysis ahh era of chainsaw man

  • @dphylan
    @dphylan 7 месяцев назад +4

    I saw this in a comment, can’t remember who it was so sorry about that but it brought up something I completely forgot- Nayuta used her powers to erase the first time Denji and Yoru/Asa kissed, and she seemingly started to remember that, meaning Nayuta’s powers may be fading. Denji in his post-nut clarity might notice this and be locking in next chapter basically

  • @zeroturtle-bu7zb
    @zeroturtle-bu7zb 7 месяцев назад +2

    YOU DELIVERED BROTHER,
    When I think about, the scene links up some between Eva and Csm. Both of the climaxes occurred at someone else's expense. In Eva it was Asuka and CSM it was Asa.

  • @alejandroxd6418
    @alejandroxd6418 7 месяцев назад +7

    i've always thought Yoru chose that name because "Asa" means "morning"
    So "night" is opposite to "morning", Yoru is opposite to Asa

  • @LxAxV
    @LxAxV 7 месяцев назад +5

    Bro said “I think about this chapter “ 😂

  • @VampireA1056
    @VampireA1056 7 месяцев назад +23

    What a climactic chapter

  • @con.x
    @con.x 7 месяцев назад +2

    This is how DID works sometimes. Trauma is deeply related to a Disassociative System. And sometimes during an "encounter" one identity will switch out to manipulate the another identity. Identities are supposed to protect, but they are also individuals with desires and sometimes want to hurt each other ("themselves?") ... It's very complicated, and bound to trauma. The Integration portion is also a thing. less common, but sometimes... also being unsure of names, or feeling conflicted about a name. They are and are not, the person they say they are, each identify knows they are "Host-name" but also themselves. And even after integration it's not always clear. a Fractured mind, is always fractured, even if you glue the parts back together, and all the parts are "fronting" ... we all have this, we are just so used to it, we dont even realize. The voice telling you to keep pushing, while the voice in your head is saying no, I cant do it. Which voice is you? Maybe both? ... And when doctors sever the left-right hemispheres of the brain, the two brains decide differently... and maybe always did. Our brains are so much more complicated than we think, weve just evolved to just accept it all without realizing it. Children who experience Trauma are forced to realize it before their brains stop being un-settled on that idea. And so they can separate "me" from "other me"

  • @foryossimodicarbonio9703
    @foryossimodicarbonio9703 7 месяцев назад +3

    Holy Cow, I almost forgot that the kiss was supposedly erased from their memory

  • @neworker4885
    @neworker4885 7 месяцев назад +2

    When you mentioned every horsemen wanting something the first I thought of for yoru id love. war is a very brutal affair with loved ones being lost on both sides. So just like control who wants a family not brought to her by force and famine has a essentially never ending hunger, war craves intimacy and love and thats why she got so passionate with denji and makes weapon on how much the object means to the host

  • @UrAvrgSmoker
    @UrAvrgSmoker 7 месяцев назад +15

    LITERALLY MODERN SHINJI IN HOSPITAL ROOM SCENE

  • @sleepylady2723
    @sleepylady2723 7 месяцев назад +1

    a new core memory for our little denis

  • @mrm0nty550
    @mrm0nty550 7 месяцев назад +4

    Yoru's name was picked in opposition to Asa's. Until the contrary is shown, to me it's a name she picked on a whim simply because Asa's name means "morning". There's also no proof that War has done this before and there's no precedent of other devils taking over humans like she does. Violence is the closest we get and we see that his hosts memories had an effect on the resulting being's personality. Basically, Asa and Yoru merging together is the unforeseen consequence of taking over Asa but basically keeping her alive as a sort of partial fiend and might be the reason why other devils don't take over humans like this.

  • @ChimeraLotietheBunny
    @ChimeraLotietheBunny 7 месяцев назад +1

    This just hits deep with the new chapter and after another channel analyzing Denji as a character

  • @the-micreb5876
    @the-micreb5876 7 месяцев назад +3

    I think the idea of the “singular being” is really interesting and there’s a really good case for it. If we look back to Ada’s dream with all the chicken corpses, that might be the future she sees for herself once entangled with Yoru, the chicken being a callback to Bucky, the first life she ever took. This is even further compounded in chapter 112 when Asa says she’ll “turn someone into a weapon” as she steps on a chicken, with Yoru smiling. This is the first instance of ASA becoming like Yoru, with many more likely to come.

  • @samflood5631
    @samflood5631 7 месяцев назад +2

    To quote Gambit from X-Men 97: “Gambit can never unsee that.”
    Or to quote Marcelle from Delicious in Dungeon: “Woah Hey!”

  • @thedude-nf1uf
    @thedude-nf1uf 7 месяцев назад +16

    Didnt have the semen demon or devil on my bingo card

  • @hudibaba
    @hudibaba 7 месяцев назад +3

    8:25 that transition is so foul XD

  • @greyworld6242
    @greyworld6242 7 месяцев назад +10

    And it broke us good!
    Make love not war!

  • @matilozano96
    @matilozano96 7 месяцев назад +2

    Ever since the "So, this is love" scene (or however it was, whenever Yoru figured out Asa was catching feelings for Denji and Yoru was affected by it, it felt clear to me that Asa and Yoru were sort of merging.
    You could possibly make the case that Asa becoming more assertive could also be related to that.
    When it comes to the name, I think War picked Yoru just to spite Asa. Since you're Asa (Morning), I'll be Yoru (Night). I'm everything you're not, your polar opposite. It's like a Jekyll and Hyde thing, or a Bruce Banner and Hulk thing. Maybe once they merge they'll start calling themselved Shogo (noon), but that doesn't sound like a woman's name, so I wouldn't bet on it lol

  • @thecanadianfood
    @thecanadianfood 7 месяцев назад +7

    So people are trying to claim that Asa was a victim of what Yoru did too but also claiming that Asa and Yoru are becoming one.
    So if they are becoming one, then what they did to Denji was something that both Yoru and Asa both decided to do, in which case Asa wouldn't be a victim as well. Or am I understanding this wrong?

    • @bigjim9956
      @bigjim9956 7 месяцев назад +1

      To me it seems like the “becoming one” thing is just speculation atm since we dont have enough info.
      I think the next 2 chapters might clear things up

    • @SpinDuality
      @SpinDuality 7 месяцев назад +3

      Yoru and Asa still have independent thought and individuality during and after the situation so it's pretty clear that Asa did not decide to do it too.

  • @w33bghoulsan79
    @w33bghoulsan79 7 месяцев назад

    you put much more thought into it than I did. the way you put it makes it much more deep than I originally thought

  • @jrk1666
    @jrk1666 7 месяцев назад +14

    Bro lasted 27 panels

  • @Ducky190
    @Ducky190 7 месяцев назад +2

    The kid was taken advantage of yet again. My boy's story is so so damn tragic! It wasn't a good experience for him what so ever. Sure first time experiences can be kind of awkward in the beginning when it comes to sex, but the reaction that Denji gave after was what made me feel for my boy. Who knows how he will be after this. He just looked so damn dejected on that train ride.😢

  • @Wegboe
    @Wegboe 7 месяцев назад +12

    Could it be that when Yoru got the flashback because nayuta's curse to forget the kiss ran out? I would think if it hasn't run out up intil now, there has to be a reason for it dissapearing, maybe she's been killed at that moment or too weak to keep the infliction up?

    • @mazus9398
      @mazus9398 7 месяцев назад +10

      Angel and Aki briefly broke free from Makima's control in the past when they experienced strong emotions.

    • @aboodsaad8790
      @aboodsaad8790 7 месяцев назад

      @@mazus9398 and power resist makima control because of strong emotion to denji

  • @recantedforger5850
    @recantedforger5850 7 месяцев назад +2

    @Sufferents I'm not familiar with current CSM, but another author of the series Saga, Brian K. Vaughan touched on this idea awhile back. He depicted an author in his own story with experience in war and how he coped with life by writing using a coded method after discovering his own antithesis of war, which wasn't peace or love...but sex. He wrote steamy love stories, most just called erotic trash, but had an undertone of dealing with war and completely dismantling it. It was a pretty interesting concept when thinking about it the first time.
    Taking life in the name of an passion
    Creating life in the name of an passion
    It always takes more than 1 person(we're talking sex not sexual gratificaiton)
    You typically question stopping halfway through either of them
    The ideas just go on and on.
    Just a cool sidepiece I thought I'd throw out if you're interested

  • @jj6184
    @jj6184 7 месяцев назад +6

    I like the idea of there 4 horsemen’s goals being the opposite of what they represent for control she wants a relationship for famine she is gluttonous and for war in my personal opinion she wants love as love is kind of the opposite of war and the usually go together in the saying love and war

    • @patrickdali4063
      @patrickdali4063 7 месяцев назад

      But Love is war🤓
      More seriously, a better opposite to love would be indifference rather than war imo.
      And for war, Peace.😊
      Though, as many as interpretations they might be, your theory of them seeking the opposite of what they stand for is quite solid.

  • @Reliccontent
    @Reliccontent 7 месяцев назад +1

    8:21 it’s so much harder to take your video seriously when you’re playing this in the background😂

  • @Thesleepytimes
    @Thesleepytimes 7 месяцев назад +12

    My problem with this chapter isn’t Fujimoto(although I have several other problems with that man), it’s with the CSM community. Because there is a sizable amount of men in this fanbase that can’t handle depictions of Male SA victims properly. I’ve seen way too many people say that this chapter was a win for Denji when this is the third time in the series where he has been SA’d. And it kinda makes it hard to be in this community when you know there’s people who’re so disgusting about how the series treats Denji.

    • @cokesucker9520
      @cokesucker9520 7 месяцев назад

      I think the issue is that SA implies more than what actually happened.

    • @spoofs974
      @spoofs974 7 месяцев назад

      That's the anime/manga community as a whole alot of people have porn brain even the writers

    • @justinmccluney8962
      @justinmccluney8962 7 месяцев назад +3

      I totally agree with you on all that but I do think that Denji wanted it when Yoru started kissing him. Not that that just makes jt okay tho for her to do that to him with no consent ☠️

    • @3self
      @3self 7 месяцев назад +1

      This situation isn’t black and white and is more complicated. Of course people differ in opinion. Like Denji going back in for a kiss, may cause some reader to feel conflicted

    • @BeansLive567
      @BeansLive567 7 месяцев назад +1

      this is reminding me of berserk when there are still idiots on the community saying "griffith did nothing wrong" or "casca enjoyed it" and im like oh yeah history is repeating itself once again.

  • @stopmotionmaker6222
    @stopmotionmaker6222 7 месяцев назад +1

    I wasn't keeping up with Chainsaw Man but this just popped up, I'm at a loss for words.

  • @OhNoItsBo
    @OhNoItsBo 7 месяцев назад +3

    videos like these are why you will always be my favorite creator to cover CSM. keep up the good work!
    honestly i half expected her to cut it off and turn it into a weapon

  • @warlockholmes
    @warlockholmes 7 месяцев назад +1

    Switching out and seeing nut on your hand gotta be the most disturbing thing in this entire chapter.

  • @axeljejeje5294
    @axeljejeje5294 7 месяцев назад +15

    Denji will feel good after this and will want more/take it to the next level. People crying about Denji and how would feel do not really get his character at all, not even yourself. Fumiko herself did something similar, go check out how traumatized denji was

  • @mall0wfluff
    @mall0wfluff 7 месяцев назад +1

    Denji is relatable in the worst way possible which is why every time he gets taken advantage of I can barely stomach it

  • @happyphiri4237
    @happyphiri4237 7 месяцев назад +5

    Are you gonna make future videos on choujin x ? I'd like to hear your thoughts on it so far

  • @NewtSplinter
    @NewtSplinter 7 месяцев назад +2

    "Make love not war!" Dear god...

  • @cyberbullysc
    @cyberbullysc 7 месяцев назад +11

    WOOO OH YEAH BABY THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT

  • @blckorb6322
    @blckorb6322 7 месяцев назад +1

    I never thought they would make the reference to that one scene…. But here we are

  • @SamTheGumMan117
    @SamTheGumMan117 7 месяцев назад +3

    What a cumtastic chapter, and it certainly broke something lol Fujimoto pushing even further beyond what's possible in SJ and unironically was a great chapter

  • @cruzen1313
    @cruzen1313 7 месяцев назад +1

    8:25 Sufferents Brother, I like your in-depth analysis but when you add something like this I lose it 😆 🤣 lol

  • @remudalxl2413
    @remudalxl2413 7 месяцев назад +3

    Peak writing

  • @kevincomplex
    @kevincomplex 7 месяцев назад +2

    this chapter got more comments than any other chapter in the first few hours of the release💀

  • @1922_kinda_girl
    @1922_kinda_girl 7 месяцев назад +4

    I will continue reading but I’ve been in full belief since the start of part 2 that the story had fell off and fujimoto had already made a 8 - 9/10 manga with pt 1, pt 2 hasn’t shown me its purpose to exist yet, the ending to part 1 was perfect imo and I would’ve been find with the open endedness of the new control devil Nayuta. I hope the death devil will be cool and reignite my interest for the story.

    • @StrayTato
      @StrayTato 7 месяцев назад

      Fujimoto envisioned Chainsaw Man in 3 acts. So I would say Pt 2 definitely has a direction.

    • @1922_kinda_girl
      @1922_kinda_girl 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@StrayTato 3 acts would indicate different parts of a whole, I felt and I think most fans agree that part 1 was a fully realized story by itself, if there is really a part 3 after this then I definitely think Fujimoto is milking the story. In regards to how part 2 has been I like Asa and Denji’s dynamic and his relationship with Nayuta but the chainsaw man church arc was genuinely all over the place and I didn’t like it more than a single arc from part 1, the other new characters aren’t charming at all, Hoshida is decent everyone else I really don’t care at all about, well Katana Man is kinda funny but I have no idea what the direction is with his character lol.

    • @StrayTato
      @StrayTato 7 месяцев назад

      @Bkr0507 Naw I don't think so. I think act 3 might be about an adult Denji. Maybe the whole core of the story is about following Denji in different phases of his life. I'm enjoying the ride.

    • @Jesus.christ.your.bro.
      @Jesus.christ.your.bro. 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@1922_kinda_girlpart 3 could just be a new story with Denji I could imagine it like season 2 of Vinland saga cus realistically I see part 2 ending horribly like everyone dying and then it’s a complete tone shift in the story considering pt2 has been way more lighthearted

  • @VLeo-sonofliberty
    @VLeo-sonofliberty 7 месяцев назад

    from a serious type of editing to a funny guy editing, you my good sir had quite the good development lol

  • @Rhenkei
    @Rhenkei 7 месяцев назад +1

    This a manga we didn’t ask for but needed for this generation

  • @TSKIiiOP
    @TSKIiiOP 7 месяцев назад

    This is the chapter that brought me back in.its so in line with fujimotos style of writing. You will always have fans that act this way when you become so mainstream (especially when most are westerners)but i truly do hope that this doesnt force fujimoto to change his ways of storytelling.

  • @freddieflanders4886
    @freddieflanders4886 7 месяцев назад

    When people get back from war there is always a huge spike in babies.

  • @dablazingbryan5559
    @dablazingbryan5559 7 месяцев назад +1

    Denji gets traumatized and gets a Baki power up at the same time.

  • @Redpandadoood
    @Redpandadoood 7 месяцев назад +1

    If you look really closely during the chapter you can see (or at least it looks like) Yoru eyes change back n forth from normal eyes to her devil eyes, as if Yoru and Asa are switching back n forth during the kiss. I may be wrong because the drawings for the eyes are somewhat similar but definitely different at some parts of the chapter.

    • @meh9150
      @meh9150 7 месяцев назад

      It was Yoru during all the kissing, then changed to Asa while/after denji cums (lol)

  • @Issen_Mode
    @Issen_Mode 4 месяца назад +1

    Lol I still don't understand how you could get offended by that chapter unless you are a literal child or have been diddled or something. Very sad if it's the latter, because there are so many.

  • @higashikatajoshu7470
    @higashikatajoshu7470 7 месяцев назад +1

    Shoutout to my boy Fuji giving exactly what denji wanted, and making a chapter that happens exactly what the characters said it would happen in the previous chapter, and still being shcoking and able tu surprise everyone with it, and still make denji suffer along, just peak csm writing

  • @sukodoodle6808
    @sukodoodle6808 7 месяцев назад

    I honestly think this was a clever way to show the complexity and extreme of the character war. Sure it is very jarring chapter, but so is the embodiment and idea of war. Another thing I thought about was that it makes perfect sense to me was that war would elevate the conflicts of internal feelings that Denji and Asa are feeling as war itself is the most extreme version of conflict. When applying war to love it would escalate with its extreme which is passion.