Here I preferred the Rat. It sounds more musical, which may just mean that it's more mid-range focussed and has a slightly softer attack. The Iron Horse is more hi-fi, which is one of the things I've come to expect from contemporary takes on older pedals. Sometimes it's a good thing: here I didn't feel that it added much. Nice to hear both demonstrated with lower levels of distortion.
I listened to this, while scrolling on Facebook. I couldn't tell when you were switching between the pedals, which has to be a good thing. :) The change was more apparent with yesterdays demo of the Rattler. The Rattler lacked a tiny bit of the low end of the RAT, which gave it away.
Back when they first came out, I mistook this for the Warhorn, but was so pleasantly surprised,that I held on to it.Usually, I use Fuzz for anything higher gain, but I really liked the feel and pick attack.(Decent volume clean up, which is why I prefer Fuzz circuits.) When there were few options, I actually used TWO Rat's to overdrive a Hiwatt 100, so very familiar with them; it's a great circuit, but I think the Rattler and Woodcutter are also improvements. Walrus has become a go to; if in doubt, I know I won't be disappointed, - except for Fuzz , which just isn't their thing( yet). (Jam make the killer Fuzz pedals.)
Kinda late to the party, but I've noticed (since owning one) that the Iron Horse seems to have a stronger fundamental note component than most of the other Rat-type pedals. That's what I like about it. I compared it to primarily to the Wampler Ratsbane, which is very good. It has more of the splashiness and upper-midrange focus of the original Rat and was a bit noisier too. The Iron Horse is more defined, versatile and quieter. Don't necessarily read "defined" as refined though as the Iron Horse can get plenty nasty.
Awesome, as per usual!!! :) I definitely agree with your hot take; the Iron Horse sounds a lot more bright, modern, articulate to me. That said, it sounds AMAZING.
Another great video. Tough call but to my ears the Proco has a tiny bit more string definition and less bass at lower gains whereas the Iron Horse has more of a solid, thicker character all the way around the dial. Higher up the dial the differences started to even out a bit more.
I love the rat I used one at my first real live gig my friend had me play rhythm guitar on a the last three songs of the set the loud punky numbers I showed up with my first real electric guitar a strat copy and used the house amp a Peavey supreme 112 which was better than what I had myself and asked if they had a dirt box and the hippie sound guy pulls out this little black box that rocked my balls I was so shy at first I had it turned down way too low but after hearing it for a few seconds it gave me the confidence to walk over to the amp and crank it up and proceed to rock out while the rest of the band stood still like statues needless to say I got the gig full-time from there thank you rat pedal owned by a hippie synth player of all things
Iron horse is more versatile better low gain sounds better definition more open dont have that filter. Individual note clarity is crazy good makes a rat sound like a garbled mess. Only fault is no top mounted jacks if you can call that a fault.
Man, I really dug videos I saw of the Iron Horse in the past, but now I can’t decide if it’s different enough for what I do to bother if I already have the Rat.
I've got a similar problem. I don't have a Rat. Never was really interested, but then I discovered the Iron Horse and thought it was awesome. I found out it's a version of the Rat. Now I don't know if it's worth buying the Iron Horse. It costs twice as much. Maybe the Rat is the better choice for me.
Love this series! Been considering a rat type pedal for a while but haven't pulled the trigger as I can only play at low volumes (doesn't seem very rat friendly). Very tempted by the Catalinbread Blood Donor though which they claim can be played at lower volumes. Does it get some of the rat flavor that these pedals do? Seems like it in your video, but I've never heard one in person. Other considerations are PettyJohn ROUS, Jam Rattler, and Big Ear Woodcutter but I don't know how they do in lower volumes. Sorry for the essay! Haha
most of these are great at low volumes. did the jam yesterday and big ear on thursday. i think that if you’re looking for the widest range, iron horse is probably the best bet with the clipping options. cheers!
@@DemosInTheDark I was baited into clicking it because it’s a great video series. Maybe that’s what ol Timmy here meant? And maybe he meant it sucks the bad tone out of his shitty guitar?
Here I preferred the Rat. It sounds more musical, which may just mean that it's more mid-range focussed and has a slightly softer attack. The Iron Horse is more hi-fi, which is one of the things I've come to expect from contemporary takes on older pedals. Sometimes it's a good thing: here I didn't feel that it added much. Nice to hear both demonstrated with lower levels of distortion.
Awesome intro from Anne, the lm308 Rat is what got me into pedals 🤘🏻
i’d have to assume it was a first for a lot of folks! mine was a tube screamer. 😏
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I listened to this, while scrolling on Facebook. I couldn't tell when you were switching between the pedals, which has to be a good thing. :) The change was more apparent with yesterdays demo of the Rattler. The Rattler lacked a tiny bit of the low end of the RAT, which gave it away.
Great comparison, just what I needed!
Glad to hear it!
Back when they first came out, I mistook this for the Warhorn, but was so pleasantly surprised,that I held on to it.Usually, I use Fuzz for anything higher gain, but I really liked the feel and pick attack.(Decent volume clean up, which is why I prefer Fuzz circuits.)
When there were few options, I actually used TWO Rat's to overdrive a Hiwatt 100, so very familiar with them; it's a great circuit, but I think the Rattler and Woodcutter are also improvements.
Walrus has become a go to; if in doubt, I know I won't be disappointed, - except for Fuzz , which just isn't their thing( yet).
(Jam make the killer Fuzz pedals.)
Kinda late to the party, but I've noticed (since owning one) that the Iron Horse seems to have a stronger fundamental note component than most of the other Rat-type pedals. That's what I like about it. I compared it to primarily to the Wampler Ratsbane, which is very good. It has more of the splashiness and upper-midrange focus of the original Rat and was a bit noisier too. The Iron Horse is more defined, versatile and quieter. Don't necessarily read "defined" as refined though as the Iron Horse can get plenty nasty.
Awesome, as per usual!!! :) I definitely agree with your hot take; the Iron Horse sounds a lot more bright, modern, articulate to me. That said, it sounds AMAZING.
definitely a different flavor. i dig it too! 👊
I think we all need both, that's the safest bet!
safety first!
@@DemosInTheDark safety first and second. Or is it sandwiches second?
Another great video. Tough call but to my ears the Proco has a tiny bit more string definition and less bass at lower gains whereas the Iron Horse has more of a solid, thicker character all the way around the dial. Higher up the dial the differences started to even out a bit more.
Fun. 🙂 Thanks Ryan!
this is a blast!
Highlight so far: hearing Anne Sulikowski speak!!!!
SHE SPEAKS!
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pro trick: watch series at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching all kinds of movies these days.
@Caleb Jaxton Yup, I've been using Flixzone for months myself =)
These intros are slaying me 😂😂😂
just wait...
Intro by Anne. Too cool. Her channel is terrific.
Walrus definitely tighter overall. Nice.
yeah she’s great!
I love the rat I used one at my first real live gig my friend had me play rhythm guitar on a the last three songs of the set the loud punky numbers I showed up with my first real electric guitar a strat copy and used the house amp a Peavey supreme 112 which was better than what I had myself and asked if they had a dirt box and the hippie sound guy pulls out this little black box that rocked my balls I was so shy at first I had it turned down way too low but after hearing it for a few seconds it gave me the confidence to walk over to the amp and crank it up and proceed to rock out while the rest of the band stood still like statues needless to say I got the gig full-time from there thank you rat pedal owned by a hippie synth player of all things
bless that hippie!
Iron horse is more versatile better low gain sounds better definition more open dont have that filter. Individual note clarity is crazy good makes a rat sound like a garbled mess. Only fault is no top mounted jacks if you can call that a fault.
The thing is, the Rat is a Rat. It’s like, the best pedal ever made.
Man, I really dug videos I saw of the Iron Horse in the past, but now I can’t decide if it’s different enough for what I do to bother if I already have the Rat.
they’re both great! i think it just depends on how picky you are about distortion!
I've got a similar problem. I don't have a Rat. Never was really interested, but then I discovered the Iron Horse and thought it was awesome. I found out it's a version of the Rat. Now I don't know if it's worth buying the Iron Horse. It costs twice as much. Maybe the Rat is the better choice for me.
Interesting... at times I preferred the rat, at others, the iron horse
i say this about life all the time.
so handy thanks!!!!
Glorious!
AMEN!
I love it when you make yourself laugh! Lol.
HAHA!
Yessssssssss I love the IH
i know this... man. 😎
Love this series! Been considering a rat type pedal for a while but haven't pulled the trigger as I can only play at low volumes (doesn't seem very rat friendly). Very tempted by the Catalinbread Blood Donor though which they claim can be played at lower volumes. Does it get some of the rat flavor that these pedals do? Seems like it in your video, but I've never heard one in person. Other considerations are PettyJohn ROUS, Jam Rattler, and Big Ear Woodcutter but I don't know how they do in lower volumes. Sorry for the essay! Haha
most of these are great at low volumes. did the jam yesterday and big ear on thursday. i think that if you’re looking for the widest range, iron horse is probably the best bet with the clipping options. cheers!
@@DemosInTheDark oh wow, I didn't expect that! That's good to know, thanks! Looks like a rat is in my future!
Yeah i prefer the rat. It's just a bit more open and responsive, to my ears
Yaaaaaas!!
Click bait!!!! The pedal sucks!
what about this is clickbait? i'm comparing two pedals, which is what it says.
@@DemosInTheDark I was baited into clicking it because it’s a great video series. Maybe that’s what ol Timmy here meant? And maybe he meant it sucks the bad tone out of his shitty guitar?