@@antfayden darkrai + weavile werent any issue. Darkrai + magnezone I faced 3 and won 2. Lost t16 because I bricked both games hard. Happens. Overall its felt okay if I could pressure them with electabuzz since it can 2 shot magneton before they can get magnezone up in time. Overall I might consider mixing my version with zebstrika again to create a hybrid mix due to a lot of decks stalling rn and since my version gets tremendous weaker if I go 1st a lot. My take-aways: Zapdos seems overall weaker with many magnetons around, helmet sucks on pika since most stuff can oneshot me anyway. better to run capes to dodge some breakpoints. 2 pika + 2 pachy seemed to be too much. 1 pachy is good as a 3rd pika. I would consider 1 cyrus + 1 sabrina, might be overall better. gio becomes more important as well since I have to invest too many attacks into druddigon. With Gio I can oneshot. Overall I consider pika a good toolbox deck now with many options. people say its dead which I can not confirm at this point but maybe the meta shifts in a way where pika can really do nothing. Future tells
Oh man i wish there was an official competitive gamemode i need to be able to play 1000 matches a day to try all these new decks and actually feel like im winning something XD
hey you may get your wish! right now the game feels very fun with all of the new decks, I just hope Darkrai & Magnezone don't become too oppressive the rest of this month
Awesome spotlighting of these new top decks. The Magnazone engine will definitely be something to play around with and integrate into new decks. Digging the Pachirisu 18T deck as well (at the very least for practicing and improving situational positioning of items, tools, and supporters in matches - this type of practice being transferable to use of trainers across multiple decks). Some discussion points below for the very intriguing Raid Boss Egg deck (personal preference towards it due to its efficacy through my own testing since set launch): Thoughts on running 2 Leaf in place of the 2 X-Speed? (Finding that 2 Leaf opens the door for more tact and versatility when retreating - especially considering Exeggutor being the focal point of this deck. Given the 3 energy retreat cost of Exeggutor, the extra energy that has to be placed on it to get a X-Speed retreat off, can be allocated for bulking up the Celebi's attack potential while its on the bench instead) Regarding the balancing act of maximizing the amount of times that Exeggutor gets played as early as possible, I was inspired by the deck variation of this going 8-1 in the Hoogland + Spragels tourney which used a 1 Exeggute-2 Exeggutor EX-1 Celebi lineup, but then noticed that there's the permutation to consider of opponents using Fan Rotom and taking a game with a coin flip sending the only pokemon that is in play back to hand (due to the possibility of not having anything else in play as a result of an ultra low basic Pokémon count). Thoughts on using a 2 Exeggute-2 Exeggutor EX-2 Celebi EX Pokémon lineup as a means to have more versatility on the board at all times (that can be setup and managed with the use of research, pokéball, and communications in hand)?
Yeah really good post here I'll try to give some thoughts. Magnezone will definitely be here to stay, really cool engine and shows cards can improve even 2 sets later. The 18T Pachi deck is scary in some matchups, but yeah there's some good skills to be learned playing it and playing against it in testing. 2 Leaf vs 2 X-Speed is tricky because of those times you want to get Egg out of active and let Celebi soak damage before you evolve. The list playing 1-2 egg & egg ex line is pretty risky. Between Charmander, Farfetchd/Gio, Skarmory and Darkrai shenanigans it can be punished pretty easily. As crazy as it sounds, I'm not sure another Celebi is the answer, maybe it's something like 1 Shaymin? Helps minimize the Gren/Darkrai Ping and is only giving up 1 prize.
Appreciate you taking the time to share these perspectives - really insightful. Thinking about the Raid Boss Egg structure further as a result, I see how what you recommended makes the deck more consistent (i.e., whether it be mitigating risk when starting off with Egg turn 1 in the active, or switching to Celebi to absorb damage without using up the one supporter play (for a Leaf) during the turn to do so, or having Egg with Celebi on board and then Poké-balling for the second Egg with Poké Comms in hand knowing using Comms will guarantee selecting Exeggutor rather than a second Celebi, etc.). Will definitely test the addition of Shaymin as a healer + minimizer of the Greninja/Darkrai ping and see how that fairs.
This Darkrai deck is the most dominating deck we've ever had in the game. How do you even counter it? Some of my thinkings: - Something that can consistently heal or get healed (grass deck, maybe even Venusaur or Kabutops) - Something that can be retreated into hand (Koga or Budding) - Maybe add a Spiritomb (which his colorless) to cheap damage and bring Pokemon to the active spot with double Cyrus. Main problem of the Darkrai deck is you mostly have to KO 2 one prize pokemon and then a Darkrai. - Something that can take down Drud very quickly
It's REALLY good, but I do think you hit on some good counters. Currently one of the best counters is Darkrai & Greninja. So if you can heal, great (Shaymin for example). If you can snipe the bench via Hitmonlee/Zeb/Greninja I think that helps you go around Drudd. Budding & Mew are verrrry good, but you must have a follow up to punch through Drudd & handle Darkrai 140HP.
I'm currently using Yanmega + exegg combo or for more aggresive I play starmie + yanmega + dawn Still experimenting on yanmega since I still don't have enough new cards to use.
Yeah Yanmega has shown some decent promise, sort of stinks Magnezone/Darkrai counter it so hard. Hadn't thought of Starmie EX yet, but I wonder how Manaphy could work in that
Great content NNB, best pocket content on RUclips. Hot take: content curators and players should number the turns as the game does, like what does turn 2 mean? The game says turn 2 is the player going second first turn, but when content curators say turn 2 they are usually referring to turn 3 or 4.
Thanks! Yeah it gets a little confusing so I at least try to describe the "Turn 1 if you went first" etc. Hopefully people can just be descriptive until a consensus is reached.
Your videos got me into the game, First time I am actually enjoying TCG games in a very long time... But I can't help to feel that there are not enough competitive options. Do you think they will add a ranked ladder to actually grind the game, etc ? Appreciate the content and the info, keep it up !
That's so awesome, I'm glad you're enjoying the game and hope my videos keep helping you! Ladder is tricky because there are some people who view it as something negative for the average player. I would really enjoy a in-game tournament system where you play 8 people pods, small entry fee of some in-game currency and reward is more packs.
This meta will not be as diverse as last meta 😢 Paychic decks completely dead because of the stupid weakness mechanic, i prefer when cards are countered naturally, like hitmonlee vs magicarp, or how gio counters blue, i dont like paychic decks being absolutely murdered because darkrai, just like water in the first meta because pika
Yeah I agree it sort of stinks that weakness is playing such a role for the Psychic decks. At the same time, they have tried to minimize it compared to the paper TCG where it's 2x damage as opposed to +20. Psychic may be down right now, but who knows with new cards coming so soon.
Ive used a marowak/aero/rampardos with cyrus/giovanni/sabrina/cape and 0 poke balls that guarantees cubone start every game that has fared fairly well against darkrai. Marowak can hit for 160 if they have darkrai with cape and if it only hits 80 and they retreat you have aero and cyrus. Also rampardos and giovanni can hit for 140. Sabrina can put evolving pokemon in active spot while you have aero too forcing a retreat to evolve. I havent seen anyone else use this deck but id like to see darkrai fall :)
I've tried similar concept but with Aerodactyl & Gallade. There's probably something to it, but right now it looks like Bastiodon is the best way to approach it. Skarmory is very good and Bastiodon can tank anything with some decent coin flips.
I got top 16 in Chaos League with Garchomp-Spiritomb and it's insane how well it performs against Palkias and Darkrais. Darkrai-Magnezone in particular it just destroys. Dialga variations were a really tough matchup and left me out though.
Very interesting, I like the Spiritomb being able to help put things in range of the 150 from Garchomp and maybe even the 100 without Cynthia sometimes. Very cool!
I've gone up against the Darkrai-Drud-Zone deck twice in random play at least and I've won every matchup. The deck I've been using is a Greninja/Mystical Isle Eggsecutor. Lately I've paired it with a Kangaskhan and a Shaymin, and it felt like a hard counter to that deck. Shaymin helps to mitigate the chip damage that is common in the meta. Greninja is a good attacker and enables powerful Cyrus plays, and Eggecutor combines a bit of ramp with a late game knock out punch for a lot of EX pokemon that are stacking energy.
Shaymin got a lot of attention during the Ursi tournament because a Charizard player brought it. It definitely helped negate the damage Darkrai & Greninja could pile up so I think you're on to something there. The other big counter you. mentioned playing is Greninja so that makes sense you had some success!
I'm still unsure what to pair it with. I've seen the fighting box stuff pair with it and then I've tried Aerodactyl. I kind of like the Aerodactyl pairing, but I think someone had success with Lucario this weekend in one of the big tourneys.
Iam sure there are a few more super good darkrai variants we haven’t seen yet. Not being able to quickly twoshot Druddigon reliable enough really puts a lot of decks on a timer, I wonder if we see some more shaymin soon
Right now it feels like the answer is just to throw Darkrai or Magnezone in so many things just to see if it works. I do like the Shaymin idea though, maybe grass has some answers we haven't gotten to yet.
@@NothingButBangersYT gonna try and sprinkle some suggestions to ursii to maybe get some folks for saturday. Can be used to educate the masses on beginner tournament play etc
I actually played around with Mismagius EX a bit and it's not horrible, but just not strong enough to really compete at the highest level IMO. If Confusion did 20 damage when attacks failed, it would be so much better.
@@NothingButBangersYT yeah it not being able to reliably 2 hit ko without gio makes it so slow, do you happen to have any lists with the new misdreavus¿
It feels weird having decks lowering the amount of basics. It felt better having a meta where decks ran multiple options, but if Poke Comm can really make it more consistent to go all in on something like Charizard I guess that's that.
Yeah there's going to still be decks that are Pokemon heavy with 10-12, but with cards like Comms you almost have to build your deck the opposite of that to get value.
You can swap Rampardos for Kabutops lineup. Potential 160hp Kabutops with 90 attack and 90 hp self heal. Darkrai has a hard time killing the self sustain of Kabutops. You can force Darkrai, Palkia, and Dialga decks to concede in less than 10 turns. Deck Build: 2x Lucario, 2x Kabutops, 1x Marshadow, 1x Hitmonchan, 2x Pokeball, 2x Oak, 1x Pokemon Communication, 1x Giant Cape, 1x Cyrus, and 1x Leaf.
Yeah this could definitely work, especially because Kabutops can answer the Magnezone element too. Just have to figure out a way to make it not lose to the other stuff in the meta
Im a huge Rampardos fan, not only does Rampardos do 150-170 damage, its stage one can win games on its own with one or two Lucario online. Throw on a cloak on Rampardos and youre golden. Plus since it only needs one energy, you can build up your Lucario incase it Rampardos knocks itself out. I also run a Marshadow. Ive been beating darkrai, palkia and mewtwo with this deck since the set launched, only lost twice because i didnt draw my fossil in time.
The fossils feel considerably stronger this set compared to what we've seen so far. Combo that with the fact you can add Pokemon Communication or tools to help and you've got a good deck. Rampardos is definitely good enough to win a lot of games, very cool to see some people have success in tourneys too.
Pretty wild how much it dominates almost every deck in the game. Week 2 of the big tourneys will be a big test though, already seeing the hard counters coming out.
@@KenRyuguji-rg3ft Every card game needs powercreep, its inherent to its design. If old decks were still meta, people would have no reason to fund the game, and it would eventually go broke. Every card game is like that. Magic and Pokemon TCG have a rotation system specifically to prohibit players from using old decks. Yugioh constantly powercreeps old cards and keep a banlist so that they dont break the game meta. Same for other card games like Heartstone, Digimon, Gundam, etc. You are criticizing something that is core to every single TCG.
@ yeah say that in the mirror the 28th when the next pack drops and then a month after that for another one. You would pay real money for pokeballs in scarlet and violet if they told you to.
@@KenRyuguji-rg3ft I dont think you understood what i said. Making old decks less relevant is part of every TCG. I dont know where you assumed i would pay for microtransactions in other games because that other completely unrelated issue. But there's no such thing as a "F2P Friendly" TCG game. Its just discourse. None of these games arent designed that way. Its ingenuity to think so. They need players to keep updating their decks to spend more money into it. They dont want it to be "F2P Friendly". If you hate powercreep, the only way to avoid its not playing.
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Thx man for covering my pika deck! Great content as always❤
No problem at all, way to be the lone pika player! Good luck in the top cut!
@ExWhizzy How did the darkrai matchup feel?
@@antfayden darkrai + weavile werent any issue. Darkrai + magnezone I faced 3 and won 2. Lost t16 because I bricked both games hard. Happens. Overall its felt okay if I could pressure them with electabuzz since it can 2 shot magneton before they can get magnezone up in time. Overall I might consider mixing my version with zebstrika again to create a hybrid mix due to a lot of decks stalling rn and since my version gets tremendous weaker if I go 1st a lot.
My take-aways:
Zapdos seems overall weaker with many magnetons around, helmet sucks on pika since most stuff can oneshot me anyway. better to run capes to dodge some breakpoints. 2 pika + 2 pachy seemed to be too much. 1 pachy is good as a 3rd pika. I would consider 1 cyrus + 1 sabrina, might be overall better. gio becomes more important as well since I have to invest too many attacks into druddigon. With Gio I can oneshot. Overall I consider pika a good toolbox deck now with many options. people say its dead which I can not confirm at this point but maybe the meta shifts in a way where pika can really do nothing. Future tells
Really good takes here! Pika may have a shot tbh
this is the first time where it feels lile the best decks weren't designed by the devs
The crazy part to me is someone was sitting there waiting for a Magnezone to be created just so it could be used like this. Some crazy cooks out there
Oh man i wish there was an official competitive gamemode i need to be able to play 1000 matches a day to try all these new decks and actually feel like im winning something XD
hey you may get your wish! right now the game feels very fun with all of the new decks, I just hope Darkrai & Magnezone don't become too oppressive the rest of this month
Awesome spotlighting of these new top decks. The Magnazone engine will definitely be something to play around with and integrate into new decks. Digging the Pachirisu 18T deck as well (at the very least for practicing and improving situational positioning of items, tools, and supporters in matches - this type of practice being transferable to use of trainers across multiple decks).
Some discussion points below for the very intriguing Raid Boss Egg deck (personal preference towards it due to its efficacy through my own testing since set launch):
Thoughts on running 2 Leaf in place of the 2 X-Speed?
(Finding that 2 Leaf opens the door for more tact and versatility when retreating - especially considering Exeggutor being the focal point of this deck. Given the 3 energy retreat cost of Exeggutor, the extra energy that has to be placed on it to get a X-Speed retreat off, can be allocated for bulking up the Celebi's attack potential while its on the bench instead)
Regarding the balancing act of maximizing the amount of times that Exeggutor gets played as early as possible, I was inspired by the deck variation of this going 8-1 in the Hoogland + Spragels tourney which used a 1 Exeggute-2 Exeggutor EX-1 Celebi lineup, but then noticed that there's the permutation to consider of opponents using Fan Rotom and taking a game with a coin flip sending the only pokemon that is in play back to hand (due to the possibility of not having anything else in play as a result of an ultra low basic Pokémon count).
Thoughts on using a 2 Exeggute-2 Exeggutor EX-2 Celebi EX Pokémon lineup as a means to have more versatility on the board at all times (that can be setup and managed with the use of research, pokéball, and communications in hand)?
Yeah really good post here I'll try to give some thoughts. Magnezone will definitely be here to stay, really cool engine and shows cards can improve even 2 sets later. The 18T Pachi deck is scary in some matchups, but yeah there's some good skills to be learned playing it and playing against it in testing.
2 Leaf vs 2 X-Speed is tricky because of those times you want to get Egg out of active and let Celebi soak damage before you evolve. The list playing 1-2 egg & egg ex line is pretty risky. Between Charmander, Farfetchd/Gio, Skarmory and Darkrai shenanigans it can be punished pretty easily. As crazy as it sounds, I'm not sure another Celebi is the answer, maybe it's something like 1 Shaymin? Helps minimize the Gren/Darkrai Ping and is only giving up 1 prize.
Appreciate you taking the time to share these perspectives - really insightful.
Thinking about the Raid Boss Egg structure further as a result, I see how what you recommended makes the deck more consistent (i.e., whether it be mitigating risk when starting off with Egg turn 1 in the active, or switching to Celebi to absorb damage without using up the one supporter play (for a Leaf) during the turn to do so, or having Egg with Celebi on board and then Poké-balling for the second Egg with Poké Comms in hand knowing using Comms will guarantee selecting Exeggutor rather than a second Celebi, etc.).
Will definitely test the addition of Shaymin as a healer + minimizer of the Greninja/Darkrai ping and see how that fairs.
Your channel name ain't never lied yet. Yo, check out the one-of Arcticuno ex technology in the Palkia deck.
I saw that! Yeah they're keeping that option to high roll the Articuno and also it's an attack that doesn't burn the energy like Palkia which is nice.
This Darkrai deck is the most dominating deck we've ever had in the game. How do you even counter it?
Some of my thinkings:
- Something that can consistently heal or get healed (grass deck, maybe even Venusaur or Kabutops)
- Something that can be retreated into hand (Koga or Budding)
- Maybe add a Spiritomb (which his colorless) to cheap damage and bring Pokemon to the active spot with double Cyrus. Main problem of the Darkrai deck is you mostly have to KO 2 one prize pokemon and then a Darkrai.
- Something that can take down Drud very quickly
It's REALLY good, but I do think you hit on some good counters. Currently one of the best counters is Darkrai & Greninja. So if you can heal, great (Shaymin for example). If you can snipe the bench via Hitmonlee/Zeb/Greninja I think that helps you go around Drudd. Budding & Mew are verrrry good, but you must have a follow up to punch through Drudd & handle Darkrai 140HP.
I'm currently using Yanmega + exegg combo or for more aggresive I play starmie + yanmega + dawn
Still experimenting on yanmega since I still don't have enough new cards to use.
Yeah Yanmega has shown some decent promise, sort of stinks Magnezone/Darkrai counter it so hard. Hadn't thought of Starmie EX yet, but I wonder how Manaphy could work in that
Great content NNB, best pocket content on RUclips. Hot take: content curators and players should number the turns as the game does, like what does turn 2 mean? The game says turn 2 is the player going second first turn, but when content curators say turn 2 they are usually referring to turn 3 or 4.
Thanks! Yeah it gets a little confusing so I at least try to describe the "Turn 1 if you went first" etc. Hopefully people can just be descriptive until a consensus is reached.
Your videos got me into the game, First time I am actually enjoying TCG games in a very long time... But I can't help to feel that there are not enough competitive options. Do you think they will add a ranked ladder to actually grind the game, etc ? Appreciate the content and the info, keep it up !
That's so awesome, I'm glad you're enjoying the game and hope my videos keep helping you! Ladder is tricky because there are some people who view it as something negative for the average player. I would really enjoy a in-game tournament system where you play 8 people pods, small entry fee of some in-game currency and reward is more packs.
This meta will not be as diverse as last meta 😢
Paychic decks completely dead because of the stupid weakness mechanic, i prefer when cards are countered naturally, like hitmonlee vs magicarp, or how gio counters blue, i dont like paychic decks being absolutely murdered because darkrai, just like water in the first meta because pika
Yeah I agree it sort of stinks that weakness is playing such a role for the Psychic decks. At the same time, they have tried to minimize it compared to the paper TCG where it's 2x damage as opposed to +20. Psychic may be down right now, but who knows with new cards coming so soon.
Most insane part of the tournaments so far is how badly Mewtwo is doing.
How crazy of a drop off is that and even crazier people keep bringing it lol
Its crazy less than a week people alr cooking dual type pokemon deck and crush the torunaments.
Seriously whoever made the Magnezone Darkrai deck is a mad scientist lol
good content keep it up
Thanks!
Been waiting for this
Some good chefs out there helping us find really cool decks!
Ive used a marowak/aero/rampardos with cyrus/giovanni/sabrina/cape and 0 poke balls that guarantees cubone start every game that has fared fairly well against darkrai. Marowak can hit for 160 if they have darkrai with cape and if it only hits 80 and they retreat you have aero and cyrus. Also rampardos and giovanni can hit for 140. Sabrina can put evolving pokemon in active spot while you have aero too forcing a retreat to evolve. I havent seen anyone else use this deck but id like to see darkrai fall :)
I've tried similar concept but with Aerodactyl & Gallade. There's probably something to it, but right now it looks like Bastiodon is the best way to approach it. Skarmory is very good and Bastiodon can tank anything with some decent coin flips.
Missed top cut in the Ursiiday tour with Luxray by 1 win. 7-3 finish is the best the card has seen so far :)
Very impressive! I've seen some people cooking with it, but haven't tried myself!
I think it could end up being legit. I was immediately dethroned by someone finishing top 8 with it in a 500+ player tour on Sunday. Cool stuff.
A lot of time to cook, I bet we'll see some more results this weekend with it too
He's backkk!!
Just in time to recap some of the tourneys & new decks!
Darkrai best EX card in the set.
Yeah 100%, if Magneton didn't exist the Weavile or Weezing variant would still be really good
@NothingButBangersYT I'm also liking the Greninja deck variant.
It looks like it's one of the few decks that has a "good matchup" into Darkzone.
I got top 16 in Chaos League with Garchomp-Spiritomb and it's insane how well it performs against Palkias and Darkrais. Darkrai-Magnezone in particular it just destroys. Dialga variations were a really tough matchup and left me out though.
Whats the decklist?
Very interesting, I like the Spiritomb being able to help put things in range of the 150 from Garchomp and maybe even the 100 without Cynthia sometimes. Very cool!
I've gone up against the Darkrai-Drud-Zone deck twice in random play at least and I've won every matchup. The deck I've been using is a Greninja/Mystical Isle Eggsecutor. Lately I've paired it with a Kangaskhan and a Shaymin, and it felt like a hard counter to that deck. Shaymin helps to mitigate the chip damage that is common in the meta. Greninja is a good attacker and enables powerful Cyrus plays, and Eggecutor combines a bit of ramp with a late game knock out punch for a lot of EX pokemon that are stacking energy.
Shaymin got a lot of attention during the Ursi tournament because a Charizard player brought it. It definitely helped negate the damage Darkrai & Greninja could pile up so I think you're on to something there. The other big counter you. mentioned playing is Greninja so that makes sense you had some success!
Haven’t seen a darkrai in WP in like 30hrs 😢. Might just craft it lol
As soon as I crafted my 2nd one I started seeing them in my WP so frequently lol - sadge
What are your thoughts on Gallade EX?
I'm still unsure what to pair it with. I've seen the fighting box stuff pair with it and then I've tried Aerodactyl. I kind of like the Aerodactyl pairing, but I think someone had success with Lucario this weekend in one of the big tourneys.
Interesting. I've been working it with Lucario, and I'm itching for two Pokémon Communication pulls!
GL! I opened a bunch of Dialga packs to make sure I got Poke Comms, worst case hopefully you can wonderpick it!
Thanks!
Iam sure there are a few more super good darkrai variants we haven’t seen yet. Not being able to quickly twoshot Druddigon reliable enough really puts a lot of decks on a timer, I wonder if we see some more shaymin soon
Right now it feels like the answer is just to throw Darkrai or Magnezone in so many things just to see if it works. I do like the Shaymin idea though, maybe grass has some answers we haven't gotten to yet.
CRESSILA EX WILL BRING MEWTWO BACK THE KING
This would be a major comeback story so I'm here for it
Will NBB be on top 64 stream 👀
Not this week but hey hopefully soon! I try to at least give you guys a hint on the Friday or Saturday before
@@NothingButBangersYT gonna try and sprinkle some suggestions to ursii to maybe get some folks for saturday. Can be used to educate the masses on beginner tournament play etc
darkrai is really too good. it's basically an improved Greninja that you can use from turn 1. 😅
No joke that's so true. Greninja at least can hit bench but man Darkrai is pretty freaking strong.
Cyrus, darkrai and giant cape for sure the best cards of the expansion
Hard to disagree there tbh. Poke Comms is solid for the decks it fits in and Rocky Helmet definitely are in the discussion.
odds mismagius ex gets a spot on the meta¿ its not looking good because of how powerful darkrai and weavile are
I actually played around with Mismagius EX a bit and it's not horrible, but just not strong enough to really compete at the highest level IMO. If Confusion did 20 damage when attacks failed, it would be so much better.
@@NothingButBangersYT yeah it not being able to reliably 2 hit ko without gio makes it so slow, do you happen to have any lists with the new misdreavus¿
I just released one video with a list actually. It's not bad, but more fun than anything
@@NothingButBangersYT goated
It feels weird having decks lowering the amount of basics. It felt better having a meta where decks ran multiple options, but if Poke Comm can really make it more consistent to go all in on something like Charizard I guess that's that.
@Khyl49
with pokemon comms, i can run my moltres/charizard only deck very well. it can even win against manaphy/paikia decks. 🙂
Yeah there's going to still be decks that are Pokemon heavy with 10-12, but with cards like Comms you almost have to build your deck the opposite of that to get value.
You can swap Rampardos for Kabutops lineup. Potential 160hp Kabutops with 90 attack and 90 hp self heal. Darkrai has a hard time killing the self sustain of Kabutops. You can force Darkrai, Palkia, and Dialga decks to concede in less than 10 turns.
Deck Build: 2x Lucario, 2x Kabutops, 1x Marshadow, 1x Hitmonchan, 2x Pokeball, 2x Oak, 1x Pokemon Communication, 1x Giant Cape, 1x Cyrus, and 1x Leaf.
Yeah this could definitely work, especially because Kabutops can answer the Magnezone element too. Just have to figure out a way to make it not lose to the other stuff in the meta
Im a huge Rampardos fan, not only does Rampardos do 150-170 damage, its stage one can win games on its own with one or two Lucario online. Throw on a cloak on Rampardos and youre golden. Plus since it only needs one energy, you can build up your Lucario incase it Rampardos knocks itself out. I also run a Marshadow. Ive been beating darkrai, palkia and mewtwo with this deck since the set launched, only lost twice because i didnt draw my fossil in time.
The fossils feel considerably stronger this set compared to what we've seen so far. Combo that with the fact you can add Pokemon Communication or tools to help and you've got a good deck. Rampardos is definitely good enough to win a lot of games, very cool to see some people have success in tourneys too.
Darkzone pls
Pretty wild how much it dominates almost every deck in the game. Week 2 of the big tourneys will be a big test though, already seeing the hard counters coming out.
@NothingButBangersYT only pikachu (on soft launch) got this level of dominance, tho this looks way easyer to counter
You think so? My biggest concern is that the counter to Darkzone just ends up being pretty bad against the rest of the field
You.
I hate this pay to win meta. None of the OG decks are good anymore.
@@KenRyuguji-rg3ft
Every card game needs powercreep, its inherent to its design. If old decks were still meta, people would have no reason to fund the game, and it would eventually go broke.
Every card game is like that. Magic and Pokemon TCG have a rotation system specifically to prohibit players from using old decks. Yugioh constantly powercreeps old cards and keep a banlist so that they dont break the game meta. Same for other card games like Heartstone, Digimon, Gundam, etc.
You are criticizing something that is core to every single TCG.
@ yeah say that in the mirror the 28th when the next pack drops and then a month after that for another one. You would pay real money for pokeballs in scarlet and violet if they told you to.
Charizard/Moltres is still very good and only uses a few new cards
Gyarados is also still good
@@KenRyuguji-rg3ft
I dont think you understood what i said.
Making old decks less relevant is part of every TCG. I dont know where you assumed i would pay for microtransactions in other games because that other completely unrelated issue.
But there's no such thing as a "F2P Friendly" TCG game. Its just discourse. None of these games arent designed that way. Its ingenuity to think so. They need players to keep updating their decks to spend more money into it. They dont want it to be "F2P Friendly".
If you hate powercreep, the only way to avoid its not playing.