My dad was in the signal corps in the Philippines WWII. He didn’t talk much about it except the climbing up & down trees stringing lines. He kept the climbing gaffs. He once ran up a tel pole to show me how it was done. An old memory. Thx.
This film could well have been showed in 1970 when I attended the Field Wire-man Course at Fort Leonardwood Mo prior to my deployment to Vietnam. The only thing that seemed a bit out of place, of course were the uniforms that the troops wore, and the wire had been upgraded to the steel/copper combination for added strength and conductivity. Good old WD-1 field wire was great for overhead strength or underwater deployment as it had a plastic overcoat to keep out the moister that was the enemy of field wire. The design of a proper splice was indeed an art form that each wire-man had to perfect before moving on, the square knot tied off with the copper wires in a splice that could be covered by the little fingernail of the instructor. Proper taping was essential to maintain the integrity of the wire. I learned all that shit, then when I got to Vietnam, I sat in front of a switchboard for hours on end patching calls all over the country. So I volunteered to move on, becoming a teletype operator, then a signal chief, and well it goes on does it now. A fellow can go far in this mans army till Jimmy Carter came along and screwed it all up.
Did Basic and AIT at Jackson, summer of 74'...36k20 mos--Field Wireman. Sent to Germany, did everything they did in this video, plus radio operation, Enrcrypted messaging, Teletype, switchboard, pole climbing, and any and everything else that came along...Baumholder Germany 8th Infantry division.@@iwasherenowiamnotok8893
Both my grandfathers were in the USMC in pacific, one a rifleman, the other laid telephone wire. I always assumed the one working with telephones had it easier, only to find out he often did it under heavy fire sometimes completely defenseless before the front line even arrived, and even lost several of his buddies.
I was 31Q. We erected the dish, of course maintained the generator and radio equipment and spent our shifts in the tent that was attached to the radio van. Last station, Ft. Monmouth, N.J..
Was about to say... CB/Ham doesn't need no stinkin' badges... err, wires between sets atleast. Tuning up my Big Galaxy DX88HL and modded Cobras' lately myself.
Absolutely, I used to do outside plant work in the 80s our saying was you can have all sorts of comms... satcom, UHF/VHF/, fiber, wideband but at the end it still has to go thru copper.
I did the same job in the Army in the early 80's but these guys in this video had much more complex was of doing there job. Cool video thank god this technology (Wire commo) is obsolete but lasted about 40 plus years.
it's still used in some niche circumstances where you can't risk your radio signal getting pinned down. I've also heard voice powered phones are still used on Navy ships since you can have completely power-less communications
The WWI Army helmets updated slightly in '36-'37 then changed in 1941 to WWII style. War began end of '41. Combat officially lasted 40 months for US. Of course, wars then got to be an ongoing habit.
Then you'd have really liked the WWII rations and helmets in Vietnam. They don't just throw that stuff away you know. Those "world war 1 helmets" were standard issue at the beginning of WWII.
The early WW2 helmets were called “Brodie Helmets”. They were designed in WW1 specifically for trench warfare. Often in trenches troops were showered with shrapnel from the endless shelling and the wide brim did a good job fending the pieces off.
Should be just a simple coil that does what coils do... either step up or step down voltage. In this case it would be to step things up every mile or so. ☺
I did this job 36K and it wasn't much like this for us but they did hit a couple points. I'd have liked to have seen them get into the splicing more and what happens when the wire is sabotaged for the party later.
I also was 36K stationed at Fort Ord. HHC 1st Brigade 7th Infantry Devision. Field lineman pretty much obsolete by time I got out in 83. Switched over to Bridge Engineer when I went over to the Reserves. Kind of had fun though when I look back on doing that work. We never used the climbing gaffs, but still used old TA312 phones and SB86 and SB22 (I think the model number) switchboards. Learning to tie a special knot in the hybrid steel and copper stranded wire to make a splice was about as technical as the job got.
almost at the end of the existence of the Soviet Union, I served in such troops. Now on the battlefield of the modern war that is going on in Ukraine, such a connection looks archaic like a sling against a drone
If you mean the US Civil War, don't forget that telegraph wires were heavily used in that war. Laying your own wires and cutting your enemy's wires was a full-time job for some Civil War signallers. I suspect much of what these WW2 signal corps troops knew about laying wire was learned in the Civil War, though in this case they were dealing with telephone as well as telegraph.
@@VidkunQL I heard that story from the grandson(?) about his flippant reply and then finding out that who he had responded to was General Patton. I love a good story but it's better when you hear both sides.
@@dascorncakes1151 thank you kindly! i was born in 56 so i never got to meet him but looking forward to in heaven. blessings to you and all who gave all!!!
I do not believe they run so much and make everything so swiftly when there was no camera filming them. I think the footage would seem more realistic if they were doing things at normal speed, not as if there were a sergeant yelling at them all the time. Funny.
This is a training film. They are demonstrating it the way it's SUPPOSED to be done. Considering there was always a chance they could encounter an enemy patrol while being lightly armed and exposed I wouldn't be surprised if they regularly moved along as fast as they could.
@@danjarvis6980 I'll never ferget a Navy Chief stating that no matter how rough and tough you are, when yer arse gets wider than yer shoulders you are a "candy ass"!
Here's the issue: Tens of thousands of films similar to this one have been lost forever -- destroyed -- and many others are at risk. Our company preserves these precious bits of history one film at a time. How do we afford to do that? By selling them as stock footage to documentary filmmakers and broadcasters. If we did not have a counter, we could not afford to post films like these online, and no films would be preserved. It's that simple. So we ask you to bear with the watermark and timecodes. In the past we tried many different systems including placing our timer at the bottom corner of our videos. What happened? Unscrupulous RUclips users downloaded our vids, blew them up so the timer was not visible, and re-posted them as their own content! We had to use content control to have the videos removed and shut down these channels. It's hard enough work preserving these films and posting them, without having to spend precious time dealing with policing thievery -- and not what we devoted ourselves to do. Love our channel and want to support what we do? You can help us save and post more orphaned films! Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/PeriscopeFilm Even a really tiny contribution can make a difference.
@@PeriscopeFilm some of these films, like the basic electronics ones, should be funded for use in government schools and used as recommended / required viewing as part of science carriculum ... its not like students don't have access to computers or teachers need to set up a projector ... just a thought
Got to love that badass camouflage. That's how you hide a truck
My dad was in the signal corps in the Philippines WWII. He didn’t talk much about it except the climbing up & down trees stringing lines. He kept the climbing gaffs. He once ran up a tel pole to show me how it was done. An old memory. Thx.
My Dad was a teletype repairman in the Korean War, and he had his insignia from the Signal Corps in a box with his ribbons, etc
Thank You ' SIGNIT'
This film could well have been showed in 1970 when I attended the Field Wire-man Course at Fort Leonardwood Mo prior to my deployment to Vietnam. The only thing that seemed a bit out of place, of course were the uniforms that the troops wore, and the wire had been upgraded to the steel/copper combination for added strength and conductivity. Good old WD-1 field wire was great for overhead strength or underwater deployment as it had a plastic overcoat to keep out the moister that was the enemy of field wire. The design of a proper splice was indeed an art form that each wire-man had to perfect before moving on, the square knot tied off with the copper wires in a splice that could be covered by the little fingernail of the instructor. Proper taping was essential to maintain the integrity of the wire. I learned all that shit, then when I got to Vietnam, I sat in front of a switchboard for hours on end patching calls all over the country. So I volunteered to move on, becoming a teletype operator, then a signal chief, and well it goes on does it now. A fellow can go far in this mans army till Jimmy Carter came along and screwed it all up.
In1975 Signal school was in FortGordon Georgia. I did Basic at Fort Lenardwood Missouri.
Did Basic and AIT at Jackson, summer of 74'...36k20 mos--Field Wireman. Sent to Germany, did everything they did in this video, plus radio operation, Enrcrypted messaging, Teletype, switchboard, pole climbing, and any and everything else that came along...Baumholder Germany 8th Infantry division.@@iwasherenowiamnotok8893
I trained at Fort Gordon, Georgia in 77
Both my grandfathers were in the USMC in pacific, one a rifleman, the other laid telephone wire. I always assumed the one working with telephones had it easier, only to find out he often did it under heavy fire sometimes completely defenseless before the front line even arrived, and even lost several of his buddies.
Before the front? That doesn't seem to make sense.
My Grandfather was a lineman in the Army signal corp. 94th Infantry. He went to England, France, and Germany during WW2.
my grandfather was in the signal company in the 82nd airborne, he was at the battle of the bulge and d-day
I was 31Q. We erected the dish, of course maintained the generator and radio equipment and spent our shifts in the tent that was attached to the radio van. Last station, Ft. Monmouth, N.J..
We're going need these "obsolete"methods of communication if cell service is cut off for any length of time. Take heed my brothers and sisters.
Better start laying down lan cable. Cuz it takes waaaay to long to send a .jpeg through shortwave
@@moodydude565 we will just have to stick to text only messages.
WW5RM
Was about to say... CB/Ham doesn't need no stinkin' badges... err, wires between sets atleast. Tuning up my Big Galaxy DX88HL and modded Cobras' lately myself.
Absolutely, I used to do outside plant work in the 80s our saying was you can have all sorts of comms... satcom, UHF/VHF/, fiber, wideband but at the end it still has to go thru copper.
I did the same job in the Army in the early 80's but these guys in this video had much more complex was of doing there job. Cool video thank god this technology (Wire commo) is obsolete but lasted about 40 plus years.
it's still used in some niche circumstances where you can't risk your radio signal getting pinned down. I've also heard voice powered phones are still used on Navy ships since you can have completely power-less communications
When I was in Korea last year we still used line phones for special circumstances
Outstanding video! The information in this video is still valid and if SHTF this information will be priceless!
The way those soldiers were handling that wire it’s got to be pretty tough.
Just physical fitness. Cardio and stretching.
The WWI Army helmets updated slightly in '36-'37 then changed in 1941 to WWII style. War began end of '41. Combat officially lasted 40 months for US. Of course, wars then got to be an ongoing habit.
My father in-law was a wireman from Normandy to Germany, I was a Morse code radio Op after the war eleven years later in Germany.
I really like the world war 2 vehicles and the world war 1 helmets.
Then you'd have really liked the WWII rations and helmets in Vietnam. They don't just throw that stuff away you know. Those "world war 1 helmets" were standard issue at the beginning of WWII.
Not shown in the film
But half-tracks are beautiful
The early WW2 helmets were called “Brodie Helmets”. They were designed in WW1 specifically for trench warfare. Often in trenches troops were showered with shrapnel from the endless shelling and the wide brim did a good job fending the pieces off.
Thanks a lot.❤
I would like to know more about this "loading coil" they talk about
Loading coil, is Transformer, "Installing a power" current, a "TONE" on the line, a BASE SIGNAL, that "TALK" current, increases, much like AM Radio.
Should be just a simple coil that does what coils do... either step up or step down voltage. In this case it would be to step things up every mile or so. ☺
I did this job 36K and it wasn't much like this for us but they did hit a couple points. I'd have liked to have seen them get into the splicing more and what happens when the wire is sabotaged for the party later.
Awesome thank s
I also was 36K stationed at Fort Ord. HHC 1st Brigade 7th Infantry Devision. Field lineman pretty much obsolete by time I got out in 83. Switched over to Bridge Engineer when I went over to the Reserves. Kind of had fun though when I look back on doing that work. We never used the climbing gaffs, but still used old TA312 phones and SB86 and SB22 (I think the model number) switchboards. Learning to tie a special knot in the hybrid steel and copper stranded wire to make a splice was about as technical as the job got.
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nice old film
I was a field wireman in Germany 77-80
almost at the end of the existence of the Soviet Union, I served in such troops. Now on the battlefield of the modern war that is going on in Ukraine, such a connection looks archaic like a sling against a drone
And there was me thinking signallers just sat in a room tapping out messages.
Nice
From flag and torch in the civil warrrrrrrrrr to signal satellites afarrrrrrrrrrrrrr
If you mean the US Civil War, don't forget that telegraph wires were heavily used in that war. Laying your own wires and cutting your enemy's wires was a full-time job for some Civil War signallers. I suspect much of what these WW2 signal corps troops knew about laying wire was learned in the Civil War, though in this case they were dealing with telephone as well as telegraph.
I'd have thought doing this in Europe after D-Day would have been a suicide mission unless well behind the front line.
You'd think it would be a field day for enemy snipers covering the retreat. I think they had primitive radio also
Look up General Patton's speech to the Third Army, for his story of a man stringing wire high up on a telegraph pole during the advance on Tunis.
@@VidkunQL I heard that story from the grandson(?) about his flippant reply and then finding out that who he had responded to was General Patton. I love a good story but it's better when you hear both sides.
So just to get this straight.... We won't run the wires over the track but below it? Do I have this right? :-)
They said _if_ it can't be run *OVERHEAD*, _then_ you run it under the track.
31k mos
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Whats the Morse in the beginning say?
Two years late, but it says "basic signal communication"
my uncle died in north africa setting up a switchbord
im sorry for your loss sir
@@dascorncakes1151 thank you kindly! i was born in 56 so i never got to meet him but looking forward to in heaven. blessings to you and all who gave all!!!
These must be actors, as no Army personnel ever move that fast even if an officer is present.
🤔I think that all these videos should be on a Swiss knife ! 💡
I do not believe they run so much and make everything so swiftly when there was no camera filming them. I think the footage would seem more realistic if they were doing things at normal speed, not as if there were a sergeant yelling at them all the time. Funny.
This is a training film. They are demonstrating it the way it's SUPPOSED to be done. Considering there was always a chance they could encounter an enemy patrol while being lightly armed and exposed I wouldn't be surprised if they regularly moved along as fast as they could.
@@danjarvis6980 I'll never ferget a Navy Chief stating that no matter how rough and tough you are, when yer arse gets wider than yer shoulders you are a "candy ass"!
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This must be what they do in Bataan, preparing for the Japanese
This video was made by someone who was never in combat. You can tell by the instructions to tag your wire and labeling it with all your information.
Get rid of that dumb counter on the screen
Here's the issue: Tens of thousands of films similar to this one have been lost forever -- destroyed -- and many others are at risk. Our company preserves these precious bits of history one film at a time. How do we afford to do that? By selling them as stock footage to documentary filmmakers and broadcasters. If we did not have a counter, we could not afford to post films like these online, and no films would be preserved. It's that simple. So we ask you to bear with the watermark and timecodes.
In the past we tried many different systems including placing our timer at the bottom corner of our videos. What happened? Unscrupulous RUclips users downloaded our vids, blew them up so the timer was not visible, and re-posted them as their own content! We had to use content control to have the videos removed and shut down these channels. It's hard enough work preserving these films and posting them, without having to spend precious time dealing with policing thievery -- and not what we devoted ourselves to do.
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There should be a stickied comment on every video explaining why it has to be there. Ppl complain about this on every video!
@@PeriscopeFilm some of these films, like the basic electronics ones, should be funded for use in government schools and used as recommended / required viewing as part of science carriculum ... its not like students don't have access to computers or teachers need to set up a projector ... just a thought