THANK YOU for posting this! I was really hoping they’d get the magic of the original sh101 portamento sorted so it’s good to see an accurate , non hyped review showing what they did and didn’t do. Given B was bragging they fixed this from the MK1 this is especially disappointing but it’s better to know than not. Also, that is a lovely synth cat 😼
Thank you for the video on this one. I hope they get this sorted. Despite the issues, the MK1 was so much fun to play. Hope this one gets it sorted via a firmware update. Otherwise, I'll be waiting for the MK3. Nice cat btw.
High cost with low return to a brand that is held in high regards for its great standards. Also, theyre are probably more busy with "professional" gear, meaning high perfomance arranger keyboard and pianos and stuff. Or so i heard here on youtube...
you have boutique sh01a, roland cloud, system 1 and system 8 can be loaded with sh101, there new s4hd has a sh101 option, all the new jupiters do too, and the junox does. they will never release an exact copy of it
Love the cat comin thru real quick and marking the synth and the guy as their territory lolll “yeah he’s right this shit sucks, but it’s actually my synth and the guy’s mine too”
100 step in a row sequencer is very important to me. But presets and cc controls would be what I would put if I were updating it like the Roland SH-01a has.
Love The cat and the explaining so clear in very nice English! Our cat played Low notes for food and upper notes for wanting to go outside on a grand piano. Love the cat and you on 4:22 much!
This video proves that a synth is so much more than its sound. The SH-101 is all about its wonderful user experience. Correctly cloning the glide and transpose functionality is critical.
@@leftmono1016Mostly late 80s early 90s did though. It just depends on what music you were into. It appears you used it more as a conventional instrument.
My wild guess is Behringer probably had plans of fixing everything, but failed to meet their development deadlines. and went ahead with delivering a non-functional product.
@@peterkadarmusic9728 some of B's products are great. But if I'm right about their production and development process, we can expect to see very inconsistent quality between products. I believe it is harmful to their brand's reputation. But they have long prioritized being a budget option that wins on price rather than on quality.
One would think that with all this additional time they had due to the supply chain delays they would focus on all those small details but no, they had to be 95% there and fuck it up on the last 5%.
How did they fuck up the portamento/glide that bad? They always brag about their "attention to detail" but this is downright embarrassing. Good video though.
If you enable GLIDE for all steps then it works. You can turn off glide globally with the Glide Switch. You can enable Glide with the Glide Switch for those steps that has Glide set ON. The Glide potmeter sets the glide speed fine.
Hopefully your comments prompts changes and fixes in the new firmware versions. I’ve got their own Deepmind 6 which is very like a basic Roland subtractive synth. It runs nicely and theirs a good if not powerful effects rack. It’s ok .
Another comment said this, so can u try it? 1) Program a sequence with GLIDE ENABLED on some steps. 2) Start it 3) Set Glide switch to OFF -> the glide is OFF 4) Set Glide switch to Legator -> The glide is now ON for those steps 5) Adjust Glide speed potmeter -> The glide speed changes for those steps that has GLIDE ON.
Back in the day I had a couple of SH101s. I now have a mark 1 MS1 ( bought 4 years ago). Another disappointment you didn't mention was that the original sequencer had 100 steps whereas the MS1 can only remember 32 steps which is annoying !
This synth really seems to be their red-headed stepchild. My MKI that I bought a few months back had a yucky noise issue, so I've just recently got around to sending it back in for a warranty claim. Shop should be sending me a MK2 soon to replace it. Hopefully, it's at least functioning as intended. I'd like to take a moment though to look on the bright side. I really like this synth anyway despite the flaws and neglect. Another silver lining is that with the MK2 they got rid of that fugly Bender. That orange light was so uncomplimentary to the Red model. My primary rationale for getting it in the first place is that it's a keytar.
Surely it is not a keytar. Someone else in these comments even complained that it’s too heavy and cable-y to use as a keytar. I thought it was a strange complaint as it’s not meant to be one.
@@Vingul It's hefty, but I use a wireless + a DC power extension cord to get it where there's only one cable coming from it. You can't have 100% wireless, but you don't have to have more than 1.
Ooof! It’s always pretty shocking that when a company who specialises in clones most of their running time as a business, still can’t seem to get that right. Unless of course they actually specialise in capitalism. Nice video 👍
They fixed with a fw update most of these complaints. Most probably more updates are on the way. For me it just doesn't sound as rounded as the original, i will get one though :D
Yeah the octave switch, pitch, keys, portmanteau, and sequencer all behave like digital or midi enabled controls whereas the original would have used only analog. Here only the voice is analog, everything else is digital. They could have changed the behavior using different programming to mask this fact, but they left it pretty obvious what is a digital vs analog control. I personally don't mind the way it is. Most behringer stuff was designed for digital control even when the original unit wasn't. For instance all their keyboards are digital or midi interface instead of analog.
Love it when folks pay attention to portamento implementation. A lot of digitally controlled analog synths have similar flaws to those you’ve pointed out here.
Regarding the filter, that's some pretty rough nonlinear behavior. That's what I'd expect from a cheap ladder filter, the volume of the signal does affect the resonant cutoff in nonlinear filters but usually not by much unless driven super hard
It really chaps my hide even when premium products in which everything works as advertised are overpriced, but when a batch of crap gets produced at the expense of the environment in the name of making a quick buck it is beyond appalling. Brave New World. Your cat is absolutely adorable!
I wonder if this can be fixed with a patch update or something. They had somewhat similar issues with the Pro-800 originally. The envelop was too slow (or maybe it was fast, I bought it well after the firmware update)... but now it works great. Behringer seems to struggle sometimes with the digital implementation. It's the same thing with some of their more DSP oriented guitar pedals. They do such a great job at manufacturing analog components, but the digital part of the equation always takes a bit of fixing. Or is just completely off in the first place.
This isn't a synth review. It's a review of a synth that sells itself as a clone of a classic and in demand synth, and fails on so many important aspects that made that synth a classic in the first place. The 80s and 90s electronic music will demonstrate what and how the sh-101 was used for. Many of those techniques will not be able to be duplicated with this behringer knock off.
Your comment at the end is spot on, it looks awful and cheap. Behringer DO make some extremely good gear at an affordable price but they have completely failed on this one even after a second attempt to fix all of its pitfalls! I wonder if its current failures can be fixed with a firmware update?
Lol, the mk1 never got an update so don't expect kne for this. Behringer is quite shit with updates tbh. I have a deepmind which I love, but i'm glad that it is quite stable and haven't noticed a bug yet.
several people have tried to mod working portamento into the original MS-1 over the years. The original used some CPU-based effect to simulate it, and it is terribly buggy, poorly behaved, and non-functional in most cases. It's sad that the MkII added an auto-portamento, which I assume attempts to duplicate the analog circuit of the SH-101, and it still doesn't really work right.
Fuck... I really wanted to sell my original 101 for a new 1 to 1 replica, but will not happen. Sounds shit and has so many problems, why did they fuch this up so much? In the modular world, a freaking small company Dinsync, made a much better clone and had less time. Real lose for Behringer! Shame on the engeneers finishing this up in a rush, quarter backed. LAME!!
@@zoned7609 My cat jumped up onto My desk for the first time and landed on My MPK249 and nearly knocked off My MPK mini v3, guess what I said, "GET DOWN NOW".
I wonder if they ever fixed the flimsy garbage plastic keybed mounts. I had four MS-1's and three of them had broken mounts brand new from the factory... one was soo badly broken the whole keybed was just flopping around not mounted to anything anymore. Behringer is a garbage company with questionable morals and poorly made throw-away products
@@Xakutor Not to mention Akai Professional which used to be truly professional decades ago. Now they make Akai Miniplay toys with keybeds that feel horrible (impossible to control the velicity/dynamics though the sounds and keybed is velocity sensitive because the keys feel like they can only be played soft or extremely hard, lacking any flexibility) and the keys start to fall of after a couple of months. Can't believe they still label their keyboards "professional"! Quality overall has vanished in all fields since I was young. Things used to be designed with care to last decades.
wow, I have the MK1 and haven't noticed these issues, I just don't use those features at all! But one thing that really drives me crazy about this synth is that they made the bottom panel out of steel, and that adds a ton of weight, and there is no battery compartment for wireless jamming, but for some reason they included the mod/grip attachment! I want to use this as a keytar but its just too heavy and too many cables hanging out of it!
Lol, it’s not made to be a keytar and hardly anyone wants that. If it had been more lightweight, many more people would complain that it feels cheap and plastic.
@@Vingul yeah its more durable than the original, but i kinda wish it was battery powered, light weight, like the original, i know most synth heads aren't players, but i'm a keyboard player and also love synths.
1) Program a sequence with GLIDE ENABLED on some steps. 2) Start it 3) Set Glide switch to OFF -> the glide is OFF 4) Set Glide switch to Legator -> The glide is now ON for those steps 5) Adjust Glide speed potmeter -> The glide speed changes for those steps that has GLIDE ON. Sequencer with Glide does work as intended IMHO.
The fact that the glide doesn't work with the sequencer or arp is pretty damning, but most of the other problems feel like details that I'd rarely encounter
Love your cat!! Looks like one of mine lol… yeah I agree with the last comment that “fisher price” look is awful, not to mention their designs on the Proton and Neutron… I just cannot understand why decide to go so random and old school (in a bad way) with their Front panel designs… Carve, Edge and all the Moog Clones also are horrid…
The cat is stealing the show. One would suspect the SH-101 isn't so difficult to clone. I would recommend the Intellijel Atlantis. I used to own a modified SH-101 with grip for a short time. Intellijel nailed the original in my opinion.
Damn this is really disappointing from behringer, I hope it’s stuff they can fix with firmware, that slew implimentation is beyond unacceptable. Which sucks because behringer can do better
OK I have the mk1 and I enjoy it, but I didn’t know it had all these issues. Since I can’t afford an original SH-101, should I consider the VST that Roland has? Does that plugin have the same problems? If you’re not a plugin guy I understand. Anyway, thanks for a great video.
The Roland SH01a boutique hardware synth gets the auto and On portamento functions 100% right. That's virtual analog (but sounds great imo) so I would guess their VST also got it right.
yep, the Glide was the main reason I sold my MS 1 again, even I liked the sound basically, but I think have enough other stuff I can do most sounds somehow.. I hoped also they would fix this in MK II, but already heard its not, I will not buy. I have many other Behringer synths, and I am basically happy with it, really cool stuff. But some things sometimes are annoying. But for being fair, also other companies did such shit. sell unfinished gear. Had a lot of experiance in such things, wich costs me also a lot of money, finally the few 300 of this was not a big loss, i sold it for 200 again. I have lost more money with other stuff like the Alesis Andromeda wich had buggy firmware, no fixing at all after years. And many others as well. So thats just like it is since decades. There are many times some hairs in the soup, the perfect synth anyway not exists I think. BUT and a big but, I think the ASM Hydrasynth is for me kind of a perfect synth in ( almost ) every case.
So this is not a clone, not even a copy, but just some synth re-producing most of the original functions and put in a look-alike case? One could argue that they make it look like the original just to benefit from it's reputation.
I think you have to set the glide values for each note of your sequence before you save it. In the video your glide knob is at 0 while you’re recording the sequence, so I’m wondering if that’s why you’re not hearing any glide during playback.
I don't think so . On the sh101 you add slides in the sequence but regardless the knob should absolutely change the amount of portamento when turned even if there are no slides. The demo shows no change when the arp and basic sequence playing. On a sh101 it slides all over the place and the knob changes the amount in realtime when set to On regardless of any programming.
Glad I didn't get my hopes up 😀 out of all Behringer clones this has to be the worst. Sold my MK1 a while ago for many of the issues that are still there apparently.
i have one from mk1 and the arpeg implementation is just broken and seems the same issue with the behringer odyssey. changing notes held while cycling doesnt work. these products are half-baked in many ways. i do like the 303. another thing is the fx on odyssey dont seem to be able go beyond 50% wet. @behringer wtf?
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So Behringer fixed the glide function with the latest firmware release thanks to you 👍🏻
CAToff freq
lol
I love the cat trying to say: "Easy, man! It will be all fixed with the next firmware update!"
Your cat is jealous of the MS-1 MK2 getting all the attention! Cool cat, looks very affectionate.
These honest, thorough fact based reviews are what the internet needs more of.
You're referring to the kitty cat, right?
THANK YOU for posting this! I was really hoping they’d get the magic of the original sh101 portamento sorted so it’s good to see an accurate , non hyped review showing what they did and didn’t do. Given B was bragging they fixed this from the MK1 this is especially disappointing but it’s better to know than not. Also, that is a lovely synth cat 😼
Behringer should have contacted you at the Beta test stage…. With your guidance this synth could have been 100% better 😢
Thank you for the video on this one. I hope they get this sorted. Despite the issues, the MK1 was so much fun to play. Hope this one gets it sorted via a firmware update. Otherwise, I'll be waiting for the MK3. Nice cat btw.
Thats nothing they can fix with a firmware update
Thanks for this honest review! I don't understand why Roland doesn't just re-release the original SH-101
High cost with low return to a brand that is held in high regards for its great standards. Also, theyre are probably more busy with "professional" gear, meaning high perfomance arranger keyboard and pianos and stuff. Or so i heard here on youtube...
you have boutique sh01a, roland cloud, system 1 and system 8 can be loaded with sh101, there new s4hd has a sh101 option, all the new jupiters do too, and the junox does. they will never release an exact copy of it
@@synthetic24 No that is a digital synth. SH-101 is analogue
Love the cat comin thru real quick and marking the synth and the guy as their territory lolll “yeah he’s right this shit sucks, but it’s actually my synth and the guy’s mine too”
100 step in a row sequencer is very important to me. But presets and cc controls would be what I would put if I were updating it like the Roland SH-01a has.
Love The cat and the explaining so clear in very nice English! Our cat played Low notes for food and upper notes for wanting to go outside on a grand piano. Love the cat and you on 4:22 much!
Thank you for your kind words
Very clearly explained and demonstrated
This video proves that a synth is so much more than its sound. The SH-101 is all about its wonderful user experience. Correctly cloning the glide and transpose functionality is critical.
No not really
Yes it is.
I had an original way back. Awesome synth which I used for bass on everything.
Never used glide or transpose though!!
exactly!
@@leftmono1016Mostly late 80s early 90s did though. It just depends on what music you were into. It appears you used it more as a conventional instrument.
“Like New, Open Box, Avoid Touching Eyes”
😹😅
So if there's all these issues why did the mk2 even get made?
I'd wager money and hoping they didn't get found out were motivating factors.
My wild guess is Behringer probably had plans of fixing everything, but failed to meet their development deadlines. and went ahead with delivering a non-functional product.
@@boriscat1999 if that's true then it begs to ask how prevalent this is in their other revised products like the RD-8mk2.
@@peterkadarmusic9728 some of B's products are great. But if I'm right about their production and development process, we can expect to see very inconsistent quality between products. I believe it is harmful to their brand's reputation. But they have long prioritized being a budget option that wins on price rather than on quality.
Because there’s always room for an MKIII Version
One would think that with all this additional time they had due to the supply chain delays they would focus on all those small details but no, they had to be 95% there and fuck it up on the last 5%.
😂 that's quite subjective. I think it's more like 35% there, 65% messed up.
@@popcycles 🤪
@@interfon3905😂
My Siamese is also a very affectionate kitty, he likes to stick his nose into everything I do lmao.
@@Fred_pimpstone-II I go through the same thing lol
How did they fuck up the portamento/glide that bad? They always brag about their "attention to detail" but this is downright embarrassing. Good video though.
If you enable GLIDE for all steps then it works. You can turn off glide globally with the Glide Switch. You can enable Glide with the Glide Switch for those steps that has Glide set ON. The Glide potmeter sets the glide speed fine.
@@herberdth not what about when you aren't using the sequencer
they fixed it in the latest firmware.
Hopefully your comments prompts changes and fixes in the new firmware versions. I’ve got their own Deepmind 6 which is very like a basic Roland subtractive synth. It runs nicely and theirs a good if not powerful effects rack. It’s ok .
Another comment said this, so can u try it?
1) Program a sequence with GLIDE ENABLED on some steps.
2) Start it
3) Set Glide switch to OFF -> the glide is OFF
4) Set Glide switch to Legator -> The glide is now ON for those steps
5) Adjust Glide speed potmeter -> The glide speed changes for those steps that has GLIDE ON.
Back in the day I had a couple of SH101s. I now have a mark 1 MS1 ( bought 4 years ago). Another disappointment you didn't mention was that the original sequencer had 100 steps whereas the MS1 can only remember 32 steps which is annoying !
Best catvideo ever! 😻
I was hooked when I saw the cat :)
😸😻🐈🐈⬛🐈⬛
Even the cat disapproves.
The portamento thing has gotta be something they could fix as a firmware update, if they cared
I think your Kitty should do a review of the Behringer CAT.
He/she is gorgeous
At least the cat enjoyed the synth! 😻🤣
"Why are you petting that plastic thing when you could be petting meeee" ~ cat
When you want to pat a cat, they're sometimes standoff-ish, but the moment you give your attention to something else, they're in your face!
Who cares about its flaws... it's important that the cat loves it! 😂
The cat is fantastic!
This synth really seems to be their red-headed stepchild. My MKI that I bought a few months back had a yucky noise issue, so I've just recently got around to sending it back in for a warranty claim. Shop should be sending me a MK2 soon to replace it. Hopefully, it's at least functioning as intended.
I'd like to take a moment though to look on the bright side. I really like this synth anyway despite the flaws and neglect. Another silver lining is that with the MK2 they got rid of that fugly Bender. That orange light was so uncomplimentary to the Red model.
My primary rationale for getting it in the first place is that it's a keytar.
They didn't get it right though. The people who made this a classic in the 80s and 90s used parameters, that this man is showing you don't work. 😂
Are you not aware how freaking superficial this comment is?
@@quinxx12 I am. Don’t care.
Surely it is not a keytar. Someone else in these comments even complained that it’s too heavy and cable-y to use as a keytar. I thought it was a strange complaint as it’s not meant to be one.
@@Vingul It's hefty, but I use a wireless + a DC power extension cord to get it where there's only one cable coming from it. You can't have 100% wireless, but you don't have to have more than 1.
Well, I’m definitely not selling my SH-101 and getting the Beh, the original portamento is just so fun to play
exactly! and it's on many records that made the sh-101 a classic to begin with.
Ooof! It’s always pretty shocking that when a company who specialises in clones most of their running time as a business, still can’t seem to get that right. Unless of course they actually specialise in capitalism. Nice video 👍
Sounds like yet another software (firmware) oversight. Thanks for this video. Have you presented all of this to Behringer?
Thanks for this. Hope you post more videos in future.
Thank you for an honest review!
No glide on arp or sequence , thats a but gutting . How did they get that wrong ? Looks like I'll be holding on to my SH-101 for a while yet .
They fixed with a fw update most of these complaints. Most probably more updates are on the way. For me it just doesn't sound as rounded as the original, i will get one though :D
Thanks for the review.
Yeah the octave switch, pitch, keys, portmanteau, and sequencer all behave like digital or midi enabled controls whereas the original would have used only analog. Here only the voice is analog, everything else is digital. They could have changed the behavior using different programming to mask this fact, but they left it pretty obvious what is a digital vs analog control. I personally don't mind the way it is. Most behringer stuff was designed for digital control even when the original unit wasn't. For instance all their keyboards are digital or midi interface instead of analog.
le porte manteau lol ?
@@LaidbackSounds puertemanto
@@Alkatross portamento you mean ?
@@LaidbackSounds *poormantoe
@@Alkatross i like this one lol
Love it when folks pay attention to portamento implementation. A lot of digitally controlled analog synths have similar flaws to those you’ve pointed out here.
Lovely cat! Strange that they failed with the keyboard. They never checked it side by side with the original Roland?
If you pause at 5:00, it looks like you're flipping me off while your cat smacks me.
Regarding the filter, that's some pretty rough nonlinear behavior. That's what I'd expect from a cheap ladder filter, the volume of the signal does affect the resonant cutoff in nonlinear filters but usually not by much unless driven super hard
Cats on synthesizers in space😹
what about the sequencer which as faulty on mk1?
It really chaps my hide even when premium products in which everything works as advertised are overpriced, but when a batch of crap gets produced at the expense of the environment in the name of making a quick buck it is beyond appalling. Brave New World. Your cat is absolutely adorable!
Thanks for the honest review. These YTers and company need to be called out
I believe those issues are resolved on the sh01a boutique.
Yep, as an owner of both an original SH101 and the SH01a Boutique, Roland nailed it. If only those sliders were full-sized 😅
@@palindrone that’s one reason the MS-1 looks more appealing, I don’t want to have to use tweezers
Your cat is so cute. I suppose these issues are beyond fixing in a firmware update but here's hoping.
Behringer rarely updates their synth firmware. The mk1 never got fixed so this won't happen either.
That lack of transpose triggering is why is sold my MK1 and waited for MK2, so I shan’t bother now. Poor clone second attempt.
I was about to order one... thanks for the feedback, i'll wait, maybe a firmware update will fix it
I wonder if this can be fixed with a patch update or something. They had somewhat similar issues with the Pro-800 originally. The envelop was too slow (or maybe it was fast, I bought it well after the firmware update)... but now it works great.
Behringer seems to struggle sometimes with the digital implementation. It's the same thing with some of their more DSP oriented guitar pedals. They do such a great job at manufacturing analog components, but the digital part of the equation always takes a bit of fixing. Or is just completely off in the first place.
no, not the same issues at all.
@@popcycles so... it's a hardware issue not a DSP issue? what do you mean
I think there is room for a channel full of annoyed synth reviews, please do continue.
Isn't bad gear already a thing 😅
This isn't a synth review. It's a review of a synth that sells itself as a clone of a classic and in demand synth, and fails on so many important aspects that made that synth a classic in the first place.
The 80s and 90s electronic music will demonstrate what and how the sh-101 was used for. Many of those techniques will not be able to be duplicated with this behringer knock off.
@@popcycles So...this isn't a synth review, but it is a synth review.
Your comment at the end is spot on, it looks awful and cheap. Behringer DO make some extremely good gear at an affordable price but they have completely failed on this one even after a second attempt to fix all of its pitfalls! I wonder if its current failures can be fixed with a firmware update?
Lol, the mk1 never got an update so don't expect kne for this. Behringer is quite shit with updates tbh. I have a deepmind which I love, but i'm glad that it is quite stable and haven't noticed a bug yet.
I loved the sound of the ms-101 I had, but sold it because it felt so cheaply built, I was afraid it wouldn't last very long actually gigging with it
It must be a clone of the Roland JP8000 build wise then!
Thanks for the review mate. Hopefully they keep doing marks all the way up to the 1000s for 258 dollars.
several people have tried to mod working portamento into the original MS-1 over the years. The original used some CPU-based effect to simulate it, and it is terribly buggy, poorly behaved, and non-functional in most cases.
It's sad that the MkII added an auto-portamento, which I assume attempts to duplicate the analog circuit of the SH-101, and it still doesn't really work right.
Fuck... I really wanted to sell my original 101 for a new 1 to 1 replica, but will not happen. Sounds shit and has so many problems, why did they fuch this up so much? In the modular world, a freaking small company Dinsync, made a much better clone and had less time. Real lose for Behringer! Shame on the engeneers finishing this up in a rush, quarter backed. LAME!!
...also when they take alot time to develop properly: LAME! XD Joke aside, this is pretty big misses.
I hope you clean it from the cat hair before you return it.
Not sure why He is letting the cat climb all over like that.
I'm pretty sure it came with a little bit of factory kitty hair on it straight out the box
@@HOLLASOUNDS because the cat is awesome
@@zoned7609 My cat jumped up onto My desk for the first time and landed on My MPK249 and nearly knocked off My MPK mini v3, guess what I said, "GET DOWN NOW".
Get a life
Maybe the MK3 will be better..😆
I wonder if they ever fixed the flimsy garbage plastic keybed mounts. I had four MS-1's and three of them had broken mounts brand new from the factory... one was soo badly broken the whole keybed was just flopping around not mounted to anything anymore. Behringer is a garbage company with questionable morals and poorly made throw-away products
@@Xakutor Not to mention Akai Professional which used to be truly professional decades ago. Now they make Akai Miniplay toys with keybeds that feel horrible (impossible to control the velicity/dynamics though the sounds and keybed is velocity sensitive because the keys feel like they can only be played soft or extremely hard, lacking any flexibility) and the keys start to fall of after a couple of months. Can't believe they still label their keyboards "professional"!
Quality overall has vanished in all fields since I was young. Things used to be designed with care to last decades.
What a shame. The cat makes up for it though. 🙀
Can you turn the sequencer on and off ? or do still have to send a special command to it ?
wow, I have the MK1 and haven't noticed these issues, I just don't use those features at all! But one thing that really drives me crazy about this synth is that they made the bottom panel out of steel, and that adds a ton of weight, and there is no battery compartment for wireless jamming, but for some reason they included the mod/grip attachment! I want to use this as a keytar but its just too heavy and too many cables hanging out of it!
Lol, it’s not made to be a keytar and hardly anyone wants that. If it had been more lightweight, many more people would complain that it feels cheap and plastic.
@@Vingul yeah its more durable than the original, but i kinda wish it was battery powered, light weight, like the original, i know most synth heads aren't players, but i'm a keyboard player and also love synths.
@@imothy That's understandable!
Came here to convince myself that I don't need to buy another synth but instead, got convinced to never get a cat
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Your loss. 😽
Yes fuck it off.
How dare 😾
@@Some_Cat_ 😄
Do you think any of these issues, mainly all the portamento issues, could be fixed by a firmware update?
even your cats disappointed,
Your Tonkinese cat seems to like it. Worth keeping if kitty finds something cool about it. 🙂
Good review. Thumbs up.
Sounds good though, but yeah, epic fail, I have been waiting ages for this new version.
The cat is optional?
Protect this guy from lawsuits!
1) Program a sequence with GLIDE ENABLED on some steps.
2) Start it
3) Set Glide switch to OFF -> the glide is OFF
4) Set Glide switch to Legator -> The glide is now ON for those steps
5) Adjust Glide speed potmeter -> The glide speed changes for those steps that has GLIDE ON.
Sequencer with Glide does work as intended IMHO.
ok but why u should have to turn off and then on switch to legato? Why it simply cannot already work once u choose the steps in which u want glide?
The fact that the glide doesn't work with the sequencer or arp is pretty damning, but most of the other problems feel like details that I'd rarely encounter
@@popcycles your mother smells of elderberries
Does the pitch bend/mod trigger transmit MIDI on this one?
Love your cat!! Looks like one of mine lol… yeah I agree with the last comment that “fisher price” look is awful, not to mention their designs on the Proton and Neutron… I just cannot understand why decide to go so random and old school (in a bad way) with their Front panel designs… Carve, Edge and all the Moog Clones also are horrid…
The cat is stealing the show. One would suspect the SH-101 isn't so difficult to clone. I would recommend the Intellijel Atlantis. I used to own a modified SH-101 with grip for a short time. Intellijel nailed the original in my opinion.
@@Pepijn_a.k.a._Akikaze The Atlantis is $600 though.
Quality unless mass produced comes at a price.
You buy Bugringer, you get Bugringer.
Beh Meh! Clear, concise, informative & entertaining review. Adorable kitty too ("Apple head" Siamese?) More of both please. Liked & subscribed. 🎹😻
Damn this is really disappointing from behringer, I hope it’s stuff they can fix with firmware, that slew implimentation is beyond unacceptable. Which sucks because behringer can do better
OK I have the mk1 and I enjoy it, but I didn’t know it had all these issues. Since I can’t afford an original SH-101, should I consider the VST that Roland has? Does that plugin have the same problems? If you’re not a plugin guy I understand. Anyway, thanks for a great video.
The Roland SH01a boutique hardware synth gets the auto and On portamento functions 100% right. That's virtual analog (but sounds great imo) so I would guess their VST also got it right.
Nah the MS-1 is stiil really good and a good bargain.
@@Heathcliff_hensel Nah, no memories and no-cc control...
Thanks for the info. I will stay away from it, AGAIN.
yep, the Glide was the main reason I sold my MS 1 again, even I liked the sound basically, but I think have enough other stuff I can do most sounds somehow..
I hoped also they would fix this in MK II, but already heard its not, I will not buy.
I have many other Behringer synths, and I am basically happy with it, really cool stuff. But some things sometimes are annoying. But for being fair, also other companies did such shit. sell unfinished gear. Had a lot of experiance in such things, wich costs me also a lot of money, finally the few 300 of this was not a big loss, i sold it for 200 again. I have lost more money with other stuff like the Alesis Andromeda wich had buggy firmware, no fixing at all after years. And many others as well.
So thats just like it is since decades. There are many times some hairs in the soup, the perfect synth anyway not exists I think. BUT and a big but, I think the ASM Hydrasynth is for me kind of a perfect synth in ( almost ) every case.
Let kitty walk across the keys
maybe that will fix things
So this is not a clone, not even a copy, but just some synth re-producing most of the original functions and put in a look-alike case?
One could argue that they make it look like the original just to benefit from it's reputation.
I think you have to set the glide values for each note of your sequence before you save it. In the video your glide knob is at 0 while you’re recording the sequence, so I’m wondering if that’s why you’re not hearing any glide during playback.
I don't think so . On the sh101 you add slides in the sequence but regardless the knob should absolutely change the amount of portamento when turned even if there are no slides. The demo shows no change when the arp and basic sequence playing. On a sh101 it slides all over the place and the knob changes the amount in realtime when set to On regardless of any programming.
Firmware update???
Glad I didn't get my hopes up 😀 out of all Behringer clones this has to be the worst. Sold my MK1 a while ago for many of the issues that are still there apparently.
i have one from mk1 and the arpeg implementation is just broken and seems the same issue with the behringer odyssey. changing notes held while cycling doesnt work. these products are half-baked in many ways. i do like the 303. another thing is the fx on odyssey dont seem to be able go beyond 50% wet. @behringer wtf?
Can you do a video comparing the se electronics 3340 to the behringer pretty please
like for the review, sub for the cat
5'10 cats on synthesizers in face
Glad I kept my SH-101!
Lmao
Even if everything worked perfectly, what's the use? This thing sounds horrible.
Ha? U ok dude
Tbf yeah the raw VCO sounds a bit piercing/bad
This clip suggests buying Behringer Cat instead.....
How much did Roland pay you?
Thanks.
Thanks a lot mate. New subscriber ✌🏻
El ms1 no es tan malo con ese hermoso gatito ❤🐱