David Woods: Chip Kelly Did A Lot of Damage to this UCLA Football Program | Big Ten | UCLA
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- Опубликовано: 14 фев 2024
- David Woods, 247 Sports Bruin Report joins 365 Sports to discuss his thoughts on UCLA hiring former Bruin All-American RB Deshaun Foster as its next head coach, his thoughts on lack of job Chip Kelly did at UCLA, and more.
With Craig Smoak, David Smoak, & Paul Catalina 
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He probably did a lot of damage to their cafeterias too.
I’m old enough to remember when UCLA was on par with SC! I think it’s a sleeping giant. No reason why they can’t consistently finish in the top 8-9 in the BIG.
UCLA beat USC. They have shown to be equal lately
It will never happen. No on campus stadium, mediocre facilities and little to no NIL. UCLA is a school that depended heavily on the amateur model.
@@TrojansFirst he did say top 8-9. That is doable. He isn't saying beat Ohio State and Oregon
@@kendallandrews8691 It's not doable.
@@TrojansFirst being in the top 9 isn't doable? I get UCLA is trash but we aren't talking winning the league, just being in the top half of it. UCLA hasn't been that bad the past 3 years
I recently heard Bruce Feldman state that Kelly did nothing for NIL and that UCLA was basically offering NIL pennies on the dollar vs other B1G schools. I thought he was exaggerating. But, clearly not. Sounds like Phil Knight was able to mask Kelly's failings at the CFB HC level. Kelly ran a great grift for over a decade. Impressive.
I know Kelly left Ucla in the lurch, but if I were a bruin fan I would have wanted more than a position coach who'd never been a head coach (or coordinator) at any level. That's a tough ask, but I think in many ways it speaks to how the university views its football program. As far as the players reaction to the announcement, I can remember the exact same reaction from USC players when the interim tag was taken off Clay Helton.
The short notice left the with little options. Besides, no real well name coach would want the UCLA job, we've been through this before. We need a diamond in the rough, we will never get a superstar coach unless he is home made. It's UCLA football, not Alabama, Ohio State or USC. It is just the way it is. And if we get a home made great coach, we will always be at risk of losing him to the NFL or a bigger program.
Can UCLA ever get back to what it had in the 80s under Terry Donahue That's the question
No, the spend on football has increased dramatically since the 80s. While spend on UCLA football has increased it is nowhere near the growth of spend by other colleges. Can't compare the 80's. It's like asking if Harvard or Yale can ever get back to the top of football like they were in the 1800's to early 1900's.. or if UCLA can get back to the Wooden days for basketball. Different times.
No
@@fd8251 Exactly. Too competitive now for UCLA to be a top 15 program like it was under much of Donahue's tenure.
Only time will tell if UCLA made the right choice. Deshaun needs to make some smart decisions on OC. Hopefully he can get some good advice! Let’s give him a chance! Go Bruins!
Is that a USC logo behind Mr. Woods?
He shares an office with Ryan Abraham
Not convinced that any of the 365 Sports team know what UCLA is short for, but good stuff.
How does a school the size of UCLA with that alumni base and talent pool become such a mess? It's flabbergasting
Misalignment from the top down, from Chip to AD Martin Jarmond to a chancellor who couldn’t care less about football and doesn’t realize how it funds the rest of the department
Because they don't care about football and don't spend money on it.
And the alumni don't step up like they do at top football schools
@@trinityfirst1787no reason to donate when you have no expectation that the money will be used to make UCLA a better program. That's changed at least a little now. You will see donations pick up, I think they already have.
Ucla fans decided to not support Chip Kelly after year 3-4ish. He does not care. So we dont donate for him. We wanted to wait for a new coach. As soon as new cosch was hired we all donated a good amount
Bring in some ex Bruin players on the staff , Johnathen Ogden , Maurice Jones Drew , flipper Anderson . Create Bruin culture and players will come . Like Coach Foster stated , give them all access.
Is the fact that the Rose Bowl is an hour away from campus a factor on why UCLA keeps going through coaches? I understand that land near the campus is expensive but seriously.
I was shocked when foster was the hire
I forgot about David Shaw who coached Stanford
Who probably is a logical hire
Pete Carroll could have been a hire
Just to slap USC in the face
He can recruit
Chip Kelly left in Good standing
The program isn't a mess
How does Chip keep getting jobs? He has not been good for awhile and UCLA’s offense wasn’t great while he was there
they were a top 5 offense in 2022
@@jackbrenan6744 one year out of six doesn’t make that a good offense
@@ariensmith1606he had a top 10 offense in 2022. The dude knows ball but is a terrible head coach
@@ariensmith1606 ok they were top 25 in 2021 too. they had qb injuries last year. covid year doesnt count. 18 19 were rebuilding years. so in the 2 years where you could reasonably expect high production he delivered. but people like you are so far removed from reality that youll say they were never great when thats just objectively wrong
@jackbrenan6744 overrated stat. Our schedule was kind of easy. Also, it was a team of Upper classmen. Os he only going to be good when their are seniors and easy schedule
Chip lost his luster a long time ago ... SF and UCLA .
THE REAL problem at UCLA is their Athletic Department is $30 Million in debt
Hilarious. UCLA gets 5,000 fans to games.
I remember when Oklahoma went to UCLA in 2019 and there was maybe 6,000 fans. It was so bad.
Yeah because ucla sucks and everyone knew Oklahoma was going to dominate them. That’s what chip has done to the program
@@tnekeroom9897I think you just proved the point. Fans should show up - at least in numbers higher than those which would embarrass any self respecting G5 program. Claiming Chip Kelly made fans not show up is a cop out. It was his 2nd year. You gotta do better than that.
@ reidawg72 yeah that’s how bad it was. It only took a year for fans to give up on him completely, but somehow he lasted 6 and still didn’t get fired. Trust me, under mora the rose bowl used to have 75K+ in attendance every game. I was there for chips first game against Cincy and in 100+ degree heat the crowd was bumping with excitement and ever since then it’s been downhill. I used to make it a priority of mine to see multiple ucla games a year and would drive 400 miles plus to do so. I haven’t been to one single game since that cincy game in 2017 ans it’s all because of chip and I know a ton of other ucla fans who feel the same way. If he was Oklahoma’s head coach he wouldn’t have made it to the end of year 2.Btw, Oklahoma demolished us with Jalen hurts that year. It was absolutely embarrassing and to think a man with that much hype could destroy it all in less than a year is truly impressive in the worst way possible
@@tnekeroom9897 I hear ya. Very well said. I went to a Big12 school so I'm a neutral as far as Kelly at UCLA goes but I made a point to watch that Cincy game in 2018 as I was excited about what Kelly could do at ucla. I remembered how ucla had been competitive regularly under Bob Toledo and even great under Terry Donahue for 2 decades bf that. I thought Kelly could get them back to near that level. Heck I remember the much more recent great comeback by Mora's Bruins vs the Aggies (Texas A&M Aggies - not New Mexico State or Utah St Aggies lol).
So, I must say I was astonished at how bad the Cincy game was. I believe there was a Michigan transfer playing QB for the Bruins. After the game I thought, well maybe Kelly's doing the "year zero" thing. ie, we're gonna suck for a year but wait til you see what we build. That didn't happen.
I know how it is to have your school suck repeatedly despite hopes for improvement. I endured Baylor of the late 90s thru late 2000s. It's even hotter in Waco to have to watch a garbage team lol. Hope Foster can turn it around and bring back the excitement.
Edit: ok I looked it up. It was Wilton Speight from Michigan. He got hurt that gm and was replaced by DTR.
Clearly you haven’t followed ucla at all. Attendance has only been a problem under chip cuz he disrespected/ neglected the fan base at every opportunity. Before him ucla was top 3 and occasionally #1 in the conference in attendance under mora
It’s Ohio State and everybody else in the Big Ten
and Chip beat USC three years in a row.
Was it marginally bettee under Mora? Yes. They were consistently going to those Everyone Gets a Trophy bowls. UCLA hadn't been top tier in the PAC 12 or considered for a real bowl in 24 years.
I mean, they fired Mora like he was trashing the place, so I don't know about this whole "Chip Kelly ruined UCLA football" meme this interview is trying to set in place. Seems like their leadership has been doing that just fine before Kelly. To me this whole interview just felt like scapegoating.
Chip absolutely ruined ucla football. Look at the difference in attendance between mora and chip. Night and day. We actually had top 15 teams under mora that weren’t better simply because Oregon and Stanford were in their golden era. Chip can’t make the same excuse
And your leadership fired Mora. That Chip’s fault too?
@krohnutzgoff7326 Mora's teams were not close to the 1960s, 1970s or 1980s programs. Guerrero was hoping to achieve that. Guerrero gave him a decent amount of time. Didn't happen. So they gave Chip a shot. Didn't happen. Now, Foster. Not gonna happen. Common denominator is UCLA. Great school. Most important thing. As a sports program in football and basketball, just run of the mill - occasionally basketball is in the elite mix.
@ krohnutzgoff7326 it’s chips fault that he has the worst record of any ucla coach off all time
Lets be real! I have been a fan of UCLA football for over 3 decades. And the truth is that this program has been damaged since Terry Donahue left the program. Bob Toledo did have some success, but it was with Donahue's players. With the exception of a few mediocre seasons sprinkled inbetween years over the last two and a half decades, this program has been trash. It hurts to say, but it's been the truth. The Irony of it all is that UCLA still consistently puts a fair amount of talent into the NFL every tear. Yet that is not equalling wins in the cillege level.
Some say hiring Foster is Carl Dorrell part 2, but I like to think it may be more like the start of a era like Terry Donahue part 2. This hire resebles the Dongue hire in so many ways.
He ruined my eagles team
He probably left for Ohio State because at least when he plays games now in LA, his team will have some fans in the stadium.
UCLA isn’t serious about football and that’s why Kelly left. He also wanted to reunite with Ryan Day who he has coached with many times going back 20 plus years.
ucla has never really been committed to football. They benefit from being on one of the top states of football talent. Even with that, they still don’t do that well recruiting wise but get enough to stay in the middle of the pac 12. They will have to do better to be in the middle of the big 10.
Kelly didn't do any more damage to UCLA than any of the Coaches who got up and left the teams they coached, and believe me there were quite a few, he had some very good assistant coaches but when other teams came calling for them UCLA would not put up the money to keep them, so really Kelly didn't have a choice, don't blame all this on Chip, blame most of it on "tight-fisted" UCLA powers that handle the purse strings.