Alexander & Hephaestion | Power Over Me
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- If you haven't seen Netflix's new documentary about Alexander the Great, then you should definitely check it out. It's very interesting and more accurate than the Alexander movie. They gave us so many details and finally acknowledged the fact that Alexander and Hephaestion were more than besties.
series: Alexander: The Making of a God
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i was floored that they showed Hephaestion and Alexandrer having any kind of romance going on, normally historical figures being gay gets swept under the rug
Sorry I don't get it can you explain?
@@Blworld18 There were many evidences that Alexander and Hephaestion shared a romantic relationship, from different sources. But since it was never written by Alexander himself, many historians do what they're used to do : "they were just like very very extremely close brothers but nothing more"
0:01 @@lexysraymont9627 what are you talking what evidence these are downright lies and Alexander the Great was not gay and in fact he disapproved these kind of behaviors there are ancient records to prove that, our own Minister of Culture of Greece condemned the series and complained to the CEO of Netflix and uploaded a wholesome of ancient records to prove that Alexander The Great was against behaviors like that
Bi* not gay
@@lexysraymont9627 hence the meme "historians: they were very close friends" was born
Literally the meme:
2 people of the same gender:
- Wrote love letters to each other
- Frequently gave each other gifts
- Lived together until they died
- Were buried together
Historians:
OMG, THEY WERE ROOMMATES
bestest of friends even 🥰
They were buried at the same place??
Like the song (history hates lovers)'oublaire'
"Close friends, besties, roommantes, colleagues
Anything but lovers,
History hates lovers..."
David and Jonathan?😂
😂😂
Alexander and Hephaestion had one of the greatest love affairs in history. When Hephaestion died Alexander had a mental breakdown. This kind of love between men in ancient Greece was very common and was certainly nothing to be ashamed of. The book "Fire From Heaven", one of my favorites by Mary Renault is one of the best stories about Alexander ever written. I suggest reading "Fire from Heaven" and the sequel.."The Persian Boy" both by Mary Renault.
I read 'The Persian Boy' and it was really good. It was kinda like a one-sided love triangle between the three of them but mostly it was Bagoas admiring Alexander, a great man, a great leader and a passionate lover.
Homosexuality are only a creepy perversion, it is nothing sane. Turkish and pakistani drama series are better than US, UK, Europe series because in Turkish and Pakistani dramas there are no nude scenes, sex scenes and creepy lgbtq scenes. That's why I started to hate US, UK, Europe series (I live in Lithuania). That's why I started to love Turkish and Pakistani drama series. Because turkish and pakistani creators understand that in series cannot be nude, sex and creepy lgbtq scenes. That's why Turkish and Pakistani dramas are better than US, UK and Europe. Especially turkish dramas such as "Diriliş Ertuğrul", "Camdakı Kız", "Istanbullu Gelin", "Kuruluş Osman", "Uyaniş: Büyük Selçuklu", "Alparslan: Büyük Selçuklu", "Payitath: Abdülhamid", "Küş Masali", "Çop Adami" are better than these series about Alexander The Great because in all listed turkish drama series there are no nude men, nude women, sex scenes and creepy gay scenes, thanks god. Turkish and pakistani drama series are the best
And that's why I didn't watch these series because it was enough to see this clip about gay relationships 🤮 despite the fact I live in Lithuania
I read both books when I was still a teen. In fact I still have the original books. Fire from Heaven is classic. I love how Renault told Olympia's story. Just classic!
Ooh thanks for the recommendations. I’ll add them to my list :)
Alexander died a year after Hephaistion. Perhaps from a broken heart
In fact not a year, but 6 months later. After Hephaistion death, Alexander started to drink huge amounts of wine; he was a heavy drinker before, but after H death he was out of control. He used to drink from a huge gold cup of 5 litres, with the legendary fur and head of Nemeea Lion on him (the lion was one of the 12 Hercules duties). The last Alexander aware night was at a party where he was drinking a lot of ice wine (very very cold) from that cup till his liver gave up. I am also sure that he was in huge grief after H death... Alexander was my childhood idol- one of the first books I read at 9 years old was Iskander - one of Alexander persian names- a great book that made me fall in love of ancient history and led me to read the next 2 books Illyada and Odissey- where I was amazed by another huge love and friendship between maybe one of the best warriors of all times Achilles and his Patroclus. Alexander personal life has some dedicated books, but his personality and military genius (his strategies used on battle fields are studied even today in Military Highschools) were so great as not even 1000 books could cover them. Alexander was a blonde blue eyes white skin beauty of medium height, meanwhile Hephaistion was a brown dark hair&skin blues eyes, taller than Alexander. Two totally different appearances but being one whole, one spirit, one heart and one of the deepest friendships I've ever read about.
Some say he died from a infection because of a previous wound he received in battle or he was poisoned by his men because they couldn't take his madness anymore
no, sorry, heavy drinking
@@radosawrusnak7700 Fact is - even the academics don't really know for sure. Whatever the case may be - I have a romantic notion that he was trying to kill himself to be with his longest companion who was there with him from his boyhood - Hephaistion. Whether they were lovers or not has not been proven, but Alexander considered Hephaistion as part of him
self. "Who is this man? (ήφαιστος Hephaistion?: He too is Alexander)
Oh yeah, you really were there to see it all go down didn't you? @@radosawrusnak7700
GUYS according to historians when Haphaestion died quote, "Alexander was said to be devastated & ‘lay weeping on his comrade for a day & night before being pried away"
Christ, I can't handle these two
Homosexuality are only a creepy things, it is nothing sane. Turkish and pakistani drama series are better than US, UK, Europe series because in Turkish and Pakistani dramas there are no nude scenes, sex scenes and creepy lgbtq scenes. That's why I started to hate US, UK, Europe series (I live in Lithuania). That's why I started to love Turkish and Pakistani drama series. Because turkish and pakistani creators understand that in series cannot be nude, sex and creepy lgbtq scenes. That's why Turkish and Pakistani dramas are better than US, UK and Europe. Especially turkish dramas such as "Diriliş Ertuğrul", "Camdakı Kız", "Istanbullu Gelin", "Kuruluş Osman", "Uyaniş: Büyük Selçuklu", "Alparslan: Büyük Selçuklu", "Payitath: Abdülhamid", "Küş Masali", "Çop Adami" are better than these series about Alexander The Great because in all listed turkish drama series there are no nude men, nude women, sex scenes and creepy gay scenes, thanks god. Turkish and pakistani drama series are the best
@@augustasaudriusaleknaviciu5608 "Homosexuality is creepy" That's one I haven't heard before. I'd appreciate it if you took you're opinions somewhere else, you don't like it, don't watch it.
@@thespian3937 Homosexuality is not normal, it is perversion.
@@thespian3937 Homosexuality are only a creepy things, it is nothing sane. Turkish and pakistani drama series are better than US, UK, Europe series because in Turkish and Pakistani dramas there are no nude scenes, sex scenes and creepy lgbtq scenes. That's why I started to hate US, UK, Europe series (I live in Lithuania). That's why I started to love Turkish and Pakistani drama series. Because turkish and pakistani creators understand that in series cannot be nude, sex and creepy lgbtq scenes. That's why Turkish and Pakistani dramas are better than US, UK and Europe. Especially turkish dramas such as "Diriliş Ertuğrul", "Camdakı Kız", "Istanbullu Gelin", "Kuruluş Osman", "Uyaniş: Büyük Selçuklu", "Alparslan: Büyük Selçuklu", "Payitath: Abdülhamid", "Küş Masali", "Çop Adami" are better than these series about Alexander The Great because in all listed turkish drama series there are no nude men, nude women, sex scenes and creepy gay scenes, thanks god. Turkish and pakistani drama series are the best
@@thespian3937 ruclips.net/video/Ema4AKm6cX8/видео.htmlsi=K-oGM_I4kAUoPlXq. In this clip there are to true love, not the perversion and creey
they're so achilles and patroclus coded 💔
They coded themselves as Achilles and Patroclus, historically
@@aviondisparadoalcielo8711Yep, they did!
As someone who's been fascinated by Hephaestion as a little girl, I feel vindicated when historians admit that he was Alexander the Great's One True Love and the chemistry between these two actors is absolutely phenomenal!! 👏
The actors for the documentary definitely need to act together again
The way you can see Hephaestion's heart ripping in two at 2:07 when he realizes that the man he loves is changing, but he's utterly powerless to stop it.
Before anyone tries to say it isn't true, there's plenty of proof for historians to say they were lovers. Even then Aristotle's student called Alexander a "crazy boy lover" in his writings, which we still have very well preserved and dated copies of. The significance? Well Aristotle was one of Alexander's main educators throughout his life so Aristotle's student would have interacted with Alexander quite often.
the ending referencing him calling Hephastion by his own name, which was referenced by the film Call Me By Your Name oh this ate
Well... It really happened ❤
It's a recorded fact Alexander referred to Hephaestion as "my other self" and Aristotle referred to their friendship as "2 souls in one body"
I guess they took him from Alexander's own words, according to his biographers at that time. It's one of the most certain words said by Alexander about Hephaestion, when Stateira confused Heph w him, Alexander said: "He's Alexander too"
The tall soldier looks so FINE too
He is soooo handsome! LOL
He does! Who is the actor?
More than sure the tall soldier represent another great Alexander friend called Cleitos. He was an incredible general in Alexanders father army and supported Alexander to reach Macedonian throne, after his father was murdered. He literally saved Alexanders life in the battle of Gaugamela. After a huge debate and scandal between Cleitos and Alexander about macedonians traditions being absorbed by persian influences and calling Alexander a destroyer of what a macedonian should be, Alexander who was very drunk (they both were) took a sword in a moment of lost of control and stabed Cleitos in stomach. Cleitos died in those moments causing Alexander a 2 days of deep pain, refusing food and staying near Cleitos body in mourning... Cleitos was in fact as a big brother for Alexander.
Can you write for me tall man at what minute?
@@iremiz6745 0:17
Its giving ancient Red, White, & Royal Blue ❤
My exact thoughts ❤️🤍💙
So true, they loved each other like no other and despite all their differences
Exactly 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 but the European version no American this time ❤
Historians: They were just friends
Me: I'm calling bullshit on that.
Historians don't want to accept it or believe that one of the greatest military leaders in history and the man that started the Hellenistic Period was a homosexual.
Their love story is so beautiful and very tragic. It makes me happy to think that they would've been able to legally marry each other in a united Greek country today.
Only this edit made to binge watch the entire series 😂❤.
❤Colin Farrell and Jared Leto were fantastic in a movie about Alexander the Great few years ago❤love from Finland❤❤❤
I'll look it up
@@cassie1969Alexander (2004)
Wonderful movie. Must to see
Remember the scene where Alexander screams in ordering everyone to get out of the room where Haphaestion lay dying. It is said that he spent all night weeping over the death of Haphaestion; that Alexander's men had to pry him loose from Haphaestion's dead body, so tightly did hold onto his childhood friend and the only person Alexander ever truly loved.
Of the two lifelong companions, scholars write they were like one soul occupying two bodies.
Jared made the most beautiful Hephaestion ever.
Thanks for making this video. I absolutely love it.
Watch the show right now. Really great
Where can I see it?
And what is the name? Please
name please
Yes WHERE!
@@ma.guadalupecervantes4750Alexander: the making of a god streaming on Netflix
the fact that homosexuality has been a thing for over 2000 years shocks me, even when i see them kiss i still have a sudden excitement!
Very few people know that his father actually defeated a Spartan army that was comprised of nothing but lovers.
@@jaleesagreene6800 * A Theban army. You're referring to the sacred band of Thebes.
@@screwyou7716 Thanks for the correction. 😀
Been here since the begin of humanity😂
Homosexuality are only a creepy perversion, it is nothing sane. Turkish and pakistani drama series are better than US, UK, Europe series because in Turkish and Pakistani dramas there are no nude scenes, sex scenes and creepy lgbtq scenes. That's why I started to hate US, UK, Europe series (I live in Lithuania). That's why I started to love Turkish and Pakistani drama series. Because turkish and pakistani creators understand that in series cannot be nude, sex and creepy lgbtq scenes. That's why Turkish and Pakistani dramas are better than US, UK and Europe. Especially turkish dramas such as "Diriliş Ertuğrul", "Camdakı Kız", "Istanbullu Gelin", "Kuruluş Osman", "Uyaniş: Büyük Selçuklu", "Alparslan: Büyük Selçuklu", "Payitath: Abdülhamid", "Küş Masali", "Çop Adami" are better than these series about Alexander The Great because in all listed turkish drama series there are no nude men, nude women, sex scenes and creepy gay scenes, thanks god. Turkish and pakistani drama series are the best
YOU ATE
I think Alex ate as well ....lol .. ...
Their story is complex and understandably so, given the context they lived in. More often than not, Alex didn’t deserve Hephaestion and his absolute devotion. They grew up together and Hephaestion always remained loyalto Alexander, always by his side. Alexander’s ambitions grew as his power, their relationship strained but still there, the bond, and when Alex lost Hephaestion (partly because he wanted to keep going to India and didn’t want to stop despite his army being tired and everyone recommending him not to), he lost part of his own soul as well, ordering funeral rites worthy of a King for Hephaestion, building monuments in his name, and never going back to be the same. Just like Achilles and Patroclus, the pair they always compared themselves with, Achilles mourned over Hephaestion’s body for days. The great emperor died a year after his Patroclus.
I have always felt a deep connection with Alexander, and have always felt like I should defend his love with Hephaestion existed. I believe I used to know them in a past life. I hope they are happy, in peace, in Elysium.
This is a great video!
Wish they ended up together in the end.
they did?
@@Misisipy No sadly. At the end of the Docuseries it was implied that Alexander refuses Hephaestion's love in order to focus himself to conquer more kingdoms in the East.
@@robertbench5187 I don't think so. In real life they were together till the end.
Дякую Нетфлікс за чудову роботу!❤
Was Alexander gay? Our concept has no meaning in 300 bc. The question should be did they love one another and if so did their relationship impact history? Historians universally agree. Yes. Was their relationship sexual? Not really important historically, but my guess is yes in adolescence, no in adulthood. If they were intimate into adulthood, they would have kept it quiet, not because they were men, but due to their gap in status.
I was annoyed they showed an Alexander sex scene with the Queen from Persia but not with Hep. Like I get it like it was a more power political relationship but still wanted to see more between Alex and his greatest love
No cause i get it but the whole show is about the political fight and whatnot to rule Persia, nothing else matters 🥹🥹 (definitely check out the Alexander movie from 2004)
My only complaint is that a doc about Greeks and Persians and they all spoke English with a British accent?!?
Agree completely. Surely there are some great actors among the Greeks and Persians (modern day Iran). But the production companies have certain rules by which they can hire them.
Damn after cleopatra I thought it only get worse and then we get this fine piece of art 👍
But they were roommates, right?
You didn’t 😂😂
i thought it was fully a docu series😭 okay i’m going to watch it
Not a douche in sight😅 Yo this must have been a wild experience for reals😂
Episode one had me screaming
What is the name of the series? 😊
@@emilvibes it’s called “Alexander” on Netflix
@@josephmccabe2129 thanks a lot
I love the story of Alexander and Hephaestion
wowwww they did it. they really did it...😍😍😍😍
Very interesting and fascinating love story
Great edit & song choice! 👌
Amazing edit
Where do you get the moments from? The film hasn’t come out yet?
Please. Where can I watch this movie? Or series? I'm From Brazil-São Paulo
Netflix
What’s the name of this whoever it is
Bellissimo video!!😍😍😍👏👏 Thanx so much!
Beautiful bi men. Legendary
The real life vibe of Achilles and Patroclus. Heavily debated to have a brothers-in-arm relationship or are lovers.
Colin Farrell played Alexander the Great in a pretty good movie that came out in the early 2000’s that went into there relationship some
Probably an interesting historical film, yet I find the music repetitive to the point of irritating.
What is the name of this show or movie? I Love It Already!!❤❤❤❤😊✌🏼✌🏼
Where did you get the scenes from? Amazing edit btw ❤
Name of the series
Amei amei demais, ja não suporto mais esperar Deus 😢 parece aqueles romance proibido adoroo😩
People were complaining over this😂 Yo people are bored.
Лучше Джареда лета не будет никто.
Определённо Джаред прекрасен, но этот актер тоже хорош 😊
@@Aiko0303 актёр хорош , но мало подходит под Гефестиона.
Nome da série
Alexander the making of a god
THIS is a documentary??? wooooow!
Pls what’s the name of the documentary?
@@surelyashley5726 "Alexander: The Making of a God", it's in the description. It's apparently a documentary series from Netflix
Anyone can tell me whats the tittle of this movie?
Documentary series : Alexander the making of a god
Such a good video it so good and sweet
What movie is this? I’m dying to watch it
Is this a full length movie? If so anyone know where to watch it?
it's tv show/documentary and it's on Netflix.
Это сын Хоумлендера из пацанов и Грэма из ХаниГремма ?
Which was better people 🤔 alexander 2004 or this alexander tv series 2024
Qual é o nome desse filme ou é uma série?
documentário alexander o nascimento de um deus na netflix
i love this own pls
Name of the movie please
Name of a moviee please ?!!
Alexander: The Making of a God, it's a tv show/documentary on Netflix
Well I watched the show. Have to say I was a bit disappointed. It was a very interesting show don’t get me wrong. But seeing as Heph was Alex’s “great love” I expected to see more of the two actually being together. Sure they were together a lot but it was more as friends then as lovers
Que serie o pelicula es
Name pls😢
Alexander: The Making of a God
Is this from a film?
Serie ou filme ondepassa?
What’s the name of the movie?
Alexander: The Making of a God
😍😍😍
I literally cannot tell if this is a videogame or a show
I knew this was coming 😂
Quelqu’un saurait de quel film ça viens ?
Movie name
Alexander: the making of a god
Hot hot...just like life in the US Army....🏳🌈🏳🌈🏳🌈
Movie?
Historians prior to 2024: Oh those two historical figures? Yeah they were very close friends. Roommates if you will.
The rest of us: Nah they DEFINITELY gay.
Historians in 2024: Hey, so you know all those historical figures we said we're very close friends and probably were roommates. Well... turns out they actually were lovers after all.
The rest of us: DUH
name plz
Alexander the making of God
What is the name of the movie
Alexander the Great: Becoming of a god or sth
How are you going from Michael bell 😊
Which movie?
It's a show - Alexander: the making of a god
Wasnt Alexander described as blond?
That’s not blond enough for you 😂
That is blonde, mate
Someone could write Name the movie, please ❤
Alexander: The Making of a God. NETFLIX series
Is it a Movie ??
series Netflix
Name of movie pls🤲
Alexander the making of a god, I think it's on Netflix
@@Tonyfox19thanks a lot
série?
Alexander the of a making
Alexander the making of a God
Porque no me sale
Horrible music.... Too loud.
Otherwise, ok😊
hot couple but horrendous music choice
Why is everybody ONLY talking about Alexander's sexual orientation & his relationship with Hephaestion when there are so many other great things about Alexander that can be talked about??
There's a lot of people talking about all the things Alexander did in his life, have been for centuries. Why does it bother you that some people, specifically queer people, also want to talk about this beautiful romance he probably had with this man and that historians have greatly ignored. Also, it makes him human. Us queer people like seeing ourselves in great historical figure and remind people we've always been there. Why does it bother you ?
Cause that's the part the media were all too eager to cover up and hide away due to their own hate and bigotry against relationships that weren't heterosexual in the past. Not hiding it anymore and being truthful about it is progress and a win people want to celebrate cause it took a lot of time and fight to get here.
Because we have said enough about the other aspects of his life while hiding some other parts?
Most people talk a lot about all great figures' romantic relationships...
And why can't his sexuality be not talked about?!?
Gay 💜🏳️🌈
There are hundreds of sources that suggest him of being just his friend but very few as his lover. Netflix just made that sh!t up.
Why are you crying homophobic ?
OVO JE LAŽ
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Inaccurate!
It's a sacrilege that's what it is. As Greek this hits me to my core and it's an attack to my culture
My friend Ancient Greece and Rome very much had homosexual relationships talked about and less taboo then more modern times. There is are multiple examples of pottery from archaeological digs that even depicted gay sex acts on them. Those societies approached things a bit differently before later time periods.
Clearly you don't know much about the lifestyle of your ancients.
With all due respect, i don't think you're Greek.
@@emilyk6510 There are specific records of Alexander The Great that condemned actions like that and besides we Greeks always knew what Kind of Man Alexander The Great was and he was the greatest in all aspects, we Greeks have way more writings and records than what is actually translated and besides seek yourself and see, and see also that our own minister of culture condemned this series and complained to the netflix CEO
@@juansebastian9259 the world and the movies made you all think that we Greeks had behaviors like that in ancient Greece like is nothing but it's not true sure there were some cases, but society didn't approved things like that people that had behaviors like that were deprived of the right to be a teacher and vote.. All that we Greeks know from our history that we read and learn in schools but hey you guys all know better from the movies
Every time I see this I just have to think about that one line from "mytery of love" and it makes me so sad every time because then I have to think about Call me by your name😭
..."Like Hephaestion, who died
Alexander's lover
Now my riverbed has dried
Shall I find no other?..." 🥲
@@Misisipy nooo my heart😭
Fantastic love. Forever. ❤️♥️
Fantastic lov
What's the name of the movie?
It's a docuseries called Alexander: The Making of a God on Netflix