What do you need a national dialogue for, to do what? The national dialogue has been happening in Parliament, Provincial Legislators and Municipal IDPs but the ANC & government never listened. The only dialogue left now is on 29 May... Anyone who suggest anything is just conflicted and trying to fool our people 🇿🇦
Sakhina is putting it clearly, question is, who dictates what happens in the country, if the people want the death penalty why should 11 lawyers in the concourt stop that? so who runs government? people or lawyers?
SA 30 in democracy is a continuation of the Apartheid error. During Apartheid, we had 2 sets of citizenship ( ID card vs DomPas card holders ), today, 30 years in this so-called democracy, we still have policies that split the nation in to 2 set of citizens, 1st and 2nd class citizens ( Smart ID card vs green ID booklet ). We hate Apartheid but we practice the exact things that oppress one against the other. 🎉 🎉 we must vote our new government in ( EFF) , dialogue can wait until president Julias Malema is sworn in. Thanks
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1 This is unfortunately increasingly the global norm. Just take America. All the institutions of higher learning have been infested with woke, communistic propaganda.
Unfortunately, a referendum would not be able to replace a court judgement currently. The banning of the death penalty came as a result of Constitutional Court judgement. What we need is a Parliamentary democracy, not a constitutional one. Unaccountable judges currently hold sway over everybody else even the president has no power compared to judges.
South Africa has nations, these nations have Kingdoms who were left out in the CODESA engagements,...this should never happen again in the proposed national engagement...
😂😂😂Read your comment again, with full comprehension of the word "national" this time around. Also check the definition of the words "international" and"sovereignity" while you are at it. There is no dialogue needed here, we need to vote for the people's government on 29 May.
@@johnledwaba8551 They had all the time at codesa to dialogue but they thought we are all stupid. They are trying their best to dilute our political power. They took our land, they dominate our economy now they want to dominate policy. Lets not accept this nonsense maAfrika amahle, it's emberrassing enough that they are having a little Afrikaner tea party there by Orania. We are being undermined right infront of our eyes here by people who not only colonised us but they unleased apartheid on us. Have they forgotten what they did to us from 1948-1994?
@@johnledwaba8551 We can't allow European enclaves on our land. ANC IS UNDERMINING US IF THEY ARE ENTERTAINING THIS NONSENSE. WE SHOULD NEVER ACCEPT THIS, ZINGAMANE ZIKHALE MA AFRIKA AMAHLE.
The dialogue will wait while we give another government a chance.The ANC will never again tell us what to do.
Atleast dialogue can be held under new government. ANC government has failed.
You can't put money under the mattress and expect economy to grow
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What do you need a national dialogue for, to do what? The national dialogue has been happening in Parliament, Provincial Legislators and Municipal IDPs but the ANC & government never listened. The only dialogue left now is on 29 May... Anyone who suggest anything is just conflicted and trying to fool our people 🇿🇦
Sakhina is putting it clearly, question is, who dictates what happens in the country, if the people want the death penalty why should 11 lawyers in the concourt stop that? so who runs government? people or lawyers?
Fikeni is clearly worried about his employment future
Is it? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅
It means they have ran out of ideas if they want us to have a dialogue with them. Do they not know the problems of South Africa?
SA 30 in democracy is a continuation of the Apartheid error. During Apartheid, we had 2 sets of citizenship ( ID card vs DomPas card holders ), today, 30 years in this so-called democracy, we still have policies that split the nation in to 2 set of citizens, 1st and 2nd class citizens ( Smart ID card vs green ID booklet ).
We hate Apartheid but we practice the exact things that oppress one against the other. 🎉 🎉 we must vote our new government in ( EFF) , dialogue can wait until president Julias Malema is sworn in. Thanks
We have talked enough, to many summits, imbizo, conferences, dialogues, indaba. Not need to waste money holding talkshops bakwethu, kunini 😢😢😢
The quality of academics in SA is lower than children
I totally agree.
Yena uRamaSofa will be voted for by his CR17 cabal not most of our communities that have suffered so much under his tenure.
30 years of talking
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1 This is unfortunately increasingly the global norm. Just take America. All the institutions of higher learning have been infested with woke, communistic propaganda.
Dialog after May 29, when the anc has less power
Dialogue means the ANC has agreed that it has failed and another party must take over.
Unfortunately, a referendum would not be able to replace a court judgement currently. The banning of the death penalty came as a result of Constitutional Court judgement. What we need is a Parliamentary democracy, not a constitutional one. Unaccountable judges currently hold sway over everybody else even the president has no power compared to judges.
Codesa was not and will never be regarded as a national dialogue, it was Mandela and DeKlerk negotiations, the nation was never consulted
South Africa has nations, these nations have Kingdoms who were left out in the CODESA engagements,...this should never happen again in the proposed national engagement...
I think we do yes
Who will be in that dialogues for what because politicians are still
National dialogue is late to can be considered, it should have taken place before Codesa
We are tired of talking Mbeki
But I need to be contacted to be elected. I'm an activist.
The ANC is confused
It's true for national dialogue not leaving behind Brics countries
😂😂😂Read your comment again, with full comprehension of the word "national" this time around. Also check the definition of the words "international" and"sovereignity" while you are at it.
There is no dialogue needed here, we need to vote for the people's government on 29 May.
@@biko8229correct sir
@@johnledwaba8551 They had all the time at codesa to dialogue but they thought we are all stupid.
They are trying their best to dilute our political power. They took our land, they dominate our economy now they want to dominate policy. Lets not accept this nonsense maAfrika amahle, it's emberrassing enough that they are having a little Afrikaner tea party there by Orania. We are being undermined right infront of our eyes here by people who not only colonised us but they unleased apartheid on us.
Have they forgotten what they did to us from 1948-1994?
@@johnledwaba8551 We can't allow European enclaves on our land.
ANC IS UNDERMINING US IF THEY ARE ENTERTAINING THIS NONSENSE. WE SHOULD NEVER ACCEPT THIS, ZINGAMANE ZIKHALE MA AFRIKA AMAHLE.
Don't make a mistake of thinking bric have the interest of SA at heart. Everybody wants to suck SA.
SA desperately needs a federal government