I’m not running a charity, I’m not your employee, I’m gonna do what’s best for me! You don’t pay my car note, gas, insurance, expenses and my safety always comes first, the nerve of Uber to try to dictate how and where I drive 😂
You are absolutely correct. Do what is best for you. But Uber is under no obligation to hire you or continue to hire you (per trip) as a driver for their company and their customers. Oh but wait...that is not fair right? You are an independent contractor. They have a right to NOT contract you.
Too bad Uber. My car, my expenses, my life. Even as a part time driver, I get to choose where I pick up passengers. Give them money for the bus, for all I care.
@@jibril2473My experience African-Americans usually don’t tip and they cost the most problems I do not pick up African-American women at all and I’m African-American I can say this
Damn straight… I have been in some of those areas in the metropolitan Atlanta, Ga area and it never fails the people you pick up are issue heavy. Attitudes/ behavioral issues/ the areas are dangerous as hell… It’s not worth it day/ or night…
I drive Lyft in Atlanta and once picked up two black men wearing ski masks Does Lyft care? Then they try to upswell their own insurance because apparently Geico doesn’t cover me picking up passengers in the ghetto
people are complaining in my city D.c. not getting rides to come pick them up on time unless it's 15 minutes away, that goes to show you a lot of drivers quit left !
Thank you Professor! As a former Investigator, our boss always explained to us: “If you don’t feel safe in the area, get out of there”. We always go in teams of 2 and we had situations where my partner didn’t feel safe and we left the area immediately. This Uber warning is strange and careless, period! Safety first, schedule second!!❤
I’m a Diamond status Uber Eats Driver and for months, there has been no surges, boosts, quests, nada. In fact, if they don’t tip, we actually lose money! They don’t pay for our oil changes, tires, maintenance of our precious vehicles. Not only did they lower the pay. It takes me 2 hrs online for 1 request! Inland Empire, CA is where I drive. They had me drop off 30pack of coors light at midnight to the middle of the worst neighborhood around. They paid me $7!!!! Do they tip? Not in this area. We risk our lives for what? #ImWorthIt #UberEatsDrivers #UberGreed
I have driven for Lyft for 6+ years …. I have not been driving this past year though because of the crime that has risen to record high numbers … I miss it. I loved doing it … I was lucky to get amazing customers. But my safety is more important. Plus the money has gone way down. It’s just not worth it anymore. I won’t come back until things change. And now if the Ride Share companies are threatening us if we “cherry pick” they will deactivate us …. We’ll it sounds like I have made a good choice to walk away.
2 weeks ago, I was waiting for a rider in a very rough part of town and a guy 2 houses up comes outside with an AK-47 under his arm, he walks out looking the other way down the street, and then walks back in. Me having lived in the hood before, I know that nobody ever telegraphs what they are trying to do. He may have been looking down the street but there was nothing to see. I think he came out to see if I was an enemy of his and then realized I was just a Lyft driver…….This is the type of stuff that you can expect doing rides in bad areas. I shouldn’t have risked it going there, but it’s a shame that Uber is EXPECTING drivers to take these kinds of risks.
Yeah a few weeks ago waiting in the hood in milwaukee, Some woman "checked" me. Asking me who I was, what I was doing there. All while having her hand on her waist..... No thanks
please keep on this! I now deny every ride to Baltimore. I acknowledge that Baltimore has some nice areas, but I've had too many dropoffs and situations that literally had me shaking on the inside, worrying about my life and safety. I refuse to do these trips when Uber is down to paying an average of $20/hour. But yeah, I get punished. Needs to be a state law that as an independent contractor and using my own vehicle, that I should have the right to deny these scary rides and not be punished for it!
One thing that really pisses me. off is that they expect us to follow only their routes even if there is a road block blocking their route or if their routes involve an accident and we find a short route. They have threatened me several times about kicking me off the platform for Lyft if I don't start following their route
@@jenniferkihlthau9849I don't do rideshare. You look I don't want someone smoking cigarette or drinking water in the bottle and throwing it on the floor of my car. Just food deliveries.
As a Uber user I get what drivers go thru. I’ve seen wild stories. They are independent contractors they can do as they please. I have a high ranking because I’m on time and I tip.
UberEats driver here in SoCal rarely get a tip nowadays because they get charged a service fee that says it goes to the driver. Wrong! $3.50 a delivery is all we get. $7.09 on Saturday & Sunday nights! We actually lose money now delivering for them.
I drove for Uber regularly from 2018 until the pandemic. In 2019 a Uber driver and a passenger were killed by a passenger who was high on PCP. Uber never mentioned it to the drivers in our area and if a dropped a ride off in that area I would immediately go off line until I got back into a safer area. I drive in the DC area and I driven a few times recently and every time I end up in DC Uber tries to send me to a certain part of town that I have no business being in at night. I decline the trip and Uber pings me again with another trip to the same area. As you said we are independent contractors and I should be able to pick my fares as well as maintain my safety. God knows Uber won't.
Don’t forget making millions of dollars off our back. They’re off spending business trips in Europe at the finest hotels while we are in the trenches getting beat up and killed and treated like shit on a daily basis.
Drivers are independent contractors so they decide where to work. But Uber can also decide if they don't want to hire you if they don't want to for just about any reason that is legal and non- discriminatory of protected classes
I'm wonder how many people were deactivated for this? This article is from 2020. I once had an interaction with Uber where the rep asked why I was driving out of my market. I told Uber because "I'm an independent contractor ” and I decide where and when to drive.
I'm done driving uber. It was great when I first started making $1200+ a week. Now I can't even break $150 per day including weekends. All I get is trip radar requests, which forced me to do airport trips because there was a queue and I can guarantee trips. Now, the airport queue will do trip radar and drivers who were BEHIND me in line can accept it and take MY airport runs. I am averaging $10/hr before expenses because I am forced to wait at the airport for hours.
The TLC in NYC couldn't force taxi drivers to pick up passengers in shady neighborhoods, what makes Uber think they can force drivers to do that? Uber CEO has lost his marbles. 😂🤣
I quit driving Uber today. It’s just not worth it! Especially when you consider the price of cars today and the wear and tear you put on the car the lowering of value to the car. while driving Uber. The rides don’t pay enough for all of that.
I avoid more dangerous areas but also areas I’m not very familiar with. I prefer to stick to the same general areas I know the best, as I believe it’s safer to drive that way.
I keep it simple, for me if there is an AKA or just a letter where the name should be? No ride. I’m not letting Uber or Lyft put me in harms way. They don’t I’D I don’t pick up. Also as a driver learn to filter your work area. Tourists areas, resorts are my play grounds. No night clubs, no residential, no malls but top of my list no rides more than 45 minutes out.
The major problem l have with Uber, it's not the destination , it's the pay . Their cut are out of control . Me ? I will go anywhere if those stupid people were not so greedy.
Wait times increase as drivers decline or cancel rides. Its the only way to increase wait times. Drivers decline because the trip isn't worth the time, the cost, or the loss of positioning. Drivers cancel because they didn't feel safe, smelled weed, suspected a drunk to vomit, or an animal to shead animal hair all over seats; which isn't easy to remove. They cancel because they cant get pass security gates due the riders forgetting to message their codes and not responding when drivers try to contact them. Drivers cancel because of wait times after arriving at the pick up location, or because the pick up location is wrong. These are the reasons for long wait times, not descrimation. If an area is unsafe, its not descrimation. If Uber blocks these locations so drivers cant see they are entering a dangerous area, the driver will cancel once arriving. So you will still have long wait times. Reason for cancel, unsafe pickup. The issue with low income areas is the low income. They can't afford to order an Uber because their income is too low to afford the ride in the first place. Thats not a negative thing. I cant afford a Lambo. Is it discrimination because I don't own one? If your income is low, your city offers optional transportation. The city bus, free shuttles, friends and family. Its not Uber's place to make rides affordable for low income riders. If they did, there will be a heavy decline, because drivers drive to make profit. Drivers must deduct fuel,maintience,car insurance, phone bill and car loans from any earning made while driving. Only after these expenses can drivers make profit. How does a low income ride fit into all this? Someone has to pay the cost. Driver fares and offers no longer allow for free rides or even low income ones. This means Uber will have to pay the difference, or local and Federal Governments will have to add rideshre credits to welfare benefits.
That’s a classic. Uber tries to call drivers classist to make them feel guilty and maybe stop cherry-picking. The only classist jokester are the CEO and the high execs. Treating independent contractors like employees while getting the bigger piece of the pie. Turning drivers into the same disadvantage group they pretend to care about.
I just drive for Lyft in Denver. Unfortunately, it's very hard to determine where better and worse areas are here because gentrification is so rampant that there are affluent pockets in even the worst neighborhoods, but I do avoid certain areas at certain hours. But mainly I evaluate destinations for distance and where I want to be at what time of day for my schedule. Lyft shows you the destination, briefly anyway. That said, all my worst riders have been black, though some of the best have been, too.
I ABSOLUTELY do this….Im not risking driving in sketchy areas of Washington D.C. and dealing with people who were raised by parents that didn’t teach them basic skills of how to be an adult. Always more likely that you will have problems so I opt to avoid all rides in certain areas.
I'm Black...and many Black Riders come into your car with their problems..Mad, wanting to drink alcohol, asking to smoke weed, cursing, talking loud on phones..wanting to make stops..eating in car, leaving trash behind..Broke and No tips .. and If you are doing Uber eats these are the same ones who claim they never got their delivery
Lyft is severely cutting pay in Pittsburgh. Recent Taylor Swift concert paid surges of around $3-5 per ride. That's a drop of about $10 per ride during busy events. Regular surge bonuses have dropped roughly 60% on weekday evenings and around 80% on Saturday nights. One cannot even earn a living doing this work in my city and many of the drivers are jumping toward part-time. It's disturbing.
The city I moved out of had multiple "disadvantaged" areas, they were so "disadvantaged" that you would hear gunshots on a daily basis, every car had at least one smashed window, and no officer would get within 4 blocks of said places for fear of death.
It was the danger for me because they don't pay you enough per ride anyway! They always sent me to the dangerous areas because I was black. I lived in Henderson and they would always send me to North Las Vegas and keep me there until they felt like I had made enough money and then they would send me home back to my area where I lived! Not with it! Might as Well drive a bus or truck and get paid for real without the eminent danger!
I don't reject trips because they are to disadvantaged areas, I reject thrips because they are to areas where I am unlikely to get another trip fast. the thing is, you look at the boost areas in LA and you see that they are in those better parts of LA. If Uber/Lyft wanted to solve the problem they could just have an all day one buck boost+ in the underserved areas and problem solved. Bu they would rather threaten us.
Ok so what happen if you get shot or get hurt,will Uber responsible for our misfortune and compesate us or just wash your hand and do not take responsibility for the drivers.
I refuse to drive a passenger with no name no photo and a 4.75 rating into the a Washington DC hood in Northeast and Southeast at 1am. I'm a black guy I'm not sorry! Sorry
😂, when I commented I didn’t see others comments, then I was 🤔 are my fellow drivers afraid of the injustice department guys questioning them? Woooo! The things we have to go thru!
low income areas are the highest in crime and least safe. uber is absolutely begging on both knees for another lawsuit. drivers should see the start and end points as part of the offer screen. drivers have to make educated decisions to be as safe as they can
Are drivers still contractors? Where do the dictates end? If it is my car and my time to do with as I see fit then I do not see how yet another dictate fits the model. I work as a contractor in another industry and I would not allow a client to dictate like this. Let another shop take the low baller gigs or the over demanding micromanaging clients... sorry. I'd rather go out of business. This is why I chose self employment in the first place... otherwise how is this different than being an employee? I can always find a job doing sh1t work elsewhere for similar pay and no bennies.
I cannot do this anymore. I was rear ended while doing Lyft, with no passengers. I didn't bother to tell them. It felt like more trouble than it would have been worth. My attorney didn't feel it was worth pursuing either. I have been renting a car off and on since. It took me over 20 hours just to pay for the car. It took several hours more just to catch up on gas. It is not worth it when it when McDonalds pays $15 an hour. This is such a horrible deal. I predict we will start seeing some of our new friends crossing the border to start doing this. I would not be surprised to see their costs subsidized.
It's not discrimination, but a driver's choice to take the ride or not. Another example of how Uber's CEO expects his workers to do things he wouldn't do himself.
How to get out of disadvantaged areas and get more than 2 trip filters: Set your trip destination filter for a good area that you are currently at least 20 miles away from. If you get a trip going in that direction or if you've had your trip destination filter on for longer than 10-15 minutes, remove the destination and when you get sent out of your preferred zone, put the destination filter back on.
I got almost carjacked in Oakland California early in the morning in a bad area before I didn’t mind driving until that happens in that bad area so I avoid it as much as possible in the bad areas
I picked up a bunch of drunk pax last night, loud blasting music acting crazy. They asked for charger so I gave them one to use. Apparently it wasn’t fully plugged in so it didn’t charge their device. The music was so loud I couldn’t hear anything they were playing on a portable boom box. Since my app wireless charger didn’t work they through it out the window. At the end of the trip when I asked for my charger the guy said it didn’t work so he through it out the window. I have these assholes on video if you want the footage be happy to send if not that’s fine. But pax be freaking crazy these days.
Tell them to make their own automatic vehicles with a robot to transport their customers if we dont make no money theres no point of driving we are independent contractors correctly said i acept what i want how I want and where my safety is endangered I will not go into those area im not going out like no idiot
I have an idea: 6:16 Why doesn't Uber put those beautiful self driving vehicles with robots in the high demand crime areas instead of using human beings as test dummies. It is very unfortunate that independent contractored drivers are being threatened of deactivation by Uber if they drive don't drive in high risk and car jacking areas that Uber Corporate Excutives are not willing to drive into themselves especially since Uber doesn't protect the drivers' safety with a security guarded onterrage.
As soon as I accept a ride and I know that I'm going to an area that I do not want to be at, I turn off the app. Like that, I know that I won't receive any requests that will keep me there longer than I want to be. I drop off the passenger and can easily return to where I want to be at. Once I reach where I want to be, I turn the app back on. Some people tell me that I'm passing up on rides. As an independent contractor, that is my choice!
Tell those same people who are saying you’re passing up on rides “don’t tell me how to run my business”! If you want to move cheap shit, then you do it instead of telling me how to do shit! In other words, those same people should be worried about their own pockets instead of watching yours!
Many states have no protections for drivers. In NYC a bill was created making it a felony to assault a driver with up to 25 year penalty. In many states you have no protections and i think a lot of drivers are thinking about safety. Many parts of the country there's gun fire on a daily basis in some of these areas. Crime is up and you pulling up in your car is very risky. I've experienced a lot of questionable pickups in these areas and it was my street smarts that kept me safe.
Here's the thing: I'm from Brooklyn, NY, born and raised but now residing in the DC region. I will avoid the hoods of SE DC at night. Some neighborhoods have one way in and one way out (meaning you literally have to back out to leave). I've had trips in and out of these neighborhoods where passengers are picking up drugs and doing drug transactions (and I'm not talking about marijuana). Drivers get robbed, carjacked, and shot in these areas. I drive a 7 series also...so why in the hell would i go back to any of these neighborhood? I've switched to only doing Premium so I can avoid picking up in these areas. Until these platforms can better vet passengers, I'm refusing to go. If I'm an independent contractor, then it's my choice and no one can tell me otherwise.
"Disadvantage" is misleading. In Baltimore, it means ghetto, hoods, and projects. They also don't want us there. They make me nervous because every body is looking l.
Coming a place of neutrality: Have Uber execs rent a Tesla, go to their "disadvantaged" areas, give rides at different times. Log their experiences and give feedback to optimize rider/driver experiences. Go from there. Find common ground and better humanity
The police don't even go into some of these areas, my vehicle has been hit by bricks, rocks, and various bottles! There's random gunfire throughout the city, I quit working these areas several years ago.
I smoke outside of my car, wait 10 minutes then get back into my car. I had someone threaten to give me the worse review if I didn't stop for them to get them some nicotine/cigarettes. I took my butt home after that trip and slept like a baby. I could not believe the stuff people do to drivers. 🥺😭😭😲😭 How about accepting a trip with no extra stops then a person get in and add like 3 extra stops.😭😭 They don't ask you if you want it..😩
I go to all areas in KC and rarely drive by a pickup due to scary looking people. I have kicked out a few. Fortunately, I drove a school bus for six years which turned me in to a fearless bad ass.
I dropped off a guy who I picked up in a good area to a bad area.. a lady had paid for his ride.. this was a black guy. I have no prejudice. He had stated he had a few dogs he wanted to bring, I said fine, go get them. He came back to the car without them, tried a few more x and finally I told him I have to get going. He stated that I was talking too much so I shut up and drove him.. when I got to his location.. a 711 store.. he got out and told me to open the trunk. I told him no, because he had not put anything in it. I was not going to do that. He became belligerent and I drove away from him with the passenger door still open. He ran to the car even more agitated and I told him.. there is NOTHING of his in the back of the car, and to shut the door. I told him a few times to do this. He slammed it with all his might. I was pretty shook by this so decided to report it to Uber.. I locked the doors and was sitting there, he started throwing rocks at the car. I got out of there quickly. I have nicknames for certain areas.. Sketchville, Bangerville, tweekerville.. certain areas of town I DO avoid. Uber support is nearly nonexistent. They went from bad to worse.. From India to The Philippines.. I dont speak tagalog or else it might not be so bad.. I could not understand them at all.. they put me on hold for 20 mins then hung up on me.. 2nd try.. I could barely understand the guy.. he wasnt of much help.. very disappointing.
Don't work in bad neighborhoods don't risk your life for $3 or $4 dollars or at night time your life is more valuable then this 2 companies or this jobs.
So, why is uber keeping me in Newark, NJ for a while? Doing from 3 to 11 minutes rides around Newark, when Newark is the carjacking capital of the world????
I'm glad I haven't received this warning! I don't take city rides anymore. I drive where I feel safer. Also, the lowest amount I've seen since "upfront fares" was $4.43 in my market. Last night I seen one come thru at $3.92, smh.
Low income/trailer park areas have busses before there was uber they rode on busses, rarely took cabs... now uber feels there's a market for low income or trailer park folk........and its not
Criminal background check on drivers not passengers let us start there, you can’t even tell if the person you’re accepting into your car is a criminal or not. Collecting the tip afterwards instead of up front to show us before we accept… Just little things
Wasn't covered in the video, but as per terms of service, we are not allowed to be armed or carry, am I supposed to risk my safety for a ride in the hood? I work part time mostly after 10pm, after my main job. Time to right for equal pay and safety.
That's not about colors.. it's about safety concerns.. even they are black or white or brown . Driver knows which areas is dangerous..they have to listen driver first and then get their decision
could you address the ruling by the NLRB last week that could make it easier for gig workers to form unions? would really love to hear more perspectives on it and to see if there are other gig workers like me that have more interest in unionizing. thanks!
I'm a minority, and I pick up in minority areas all the time. hell, that's the majority of my rides. I cherry pick high paying rides only. and for enough money, I'll drive anywhere. however, I dont' drive at night in bad areas. and I will cancel any ride for any reason I see fit, which is why my cancel rate is at 90%.
I'm a female Uber driver...in LA...Ummmm, I'll do what I DAMN want to do and go and NOT go where I DON'T want to go!!!
I’m not running a charity, I’m not your employee, I’m gonna do what’s best for me! You don’t pay my car note, gas, insurance, expenses and my safety always comes first, the nerve of Uber to try to dictate how and where I drive 😂
Well said!!!
Lol thank you. I feel the same way every time they send me a 6$ ride for 25 minutes or my time. Am I working for 10$ an hour or something lol
Exactly!!!!
Taxi driver comes to mind. Somehow someway something needs to come and wash away all the filth.
You are absolutely correct. Do what is best for you. But Uber is under no obligation to hire you or continue to hire you (per trip) as a driver for their company and their customers. Oh but wait...that is not fair right? You are an independent contractor. They have a right to NOT contract you.
Im not risking my life for 5$ and no tips 😂
Too bad Uber. My car, my expenses, my life. Even as a part time driver, I get to choose where I pick up passengers. Give them money for the bus, for all I care.
Yessssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!
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Disadvantaged areas do not tip, problems, want to do multiple stops. not profitable 😂
Making drug runs too!
Correct
@@jibril2473My experience African-Americans usually don’t tip and they cost the most problems I do not pick up African-American women at all and I’m African-American I can say this
Exactly
I see multiple stops & immediately dismiss.
Translation: "Don't avoid dangerous areas at 2 am in the morning. It's better for you to get robbed than avoid these areas so we can make more money"
Damn straight… I have been in some of those areas in the metropolitan Atlanta, Ga area and it never fails the people you pick up are issue heavy.
Attitudes/ behavioral issues/ the areas are dangerous as hell… It’s not worth it day/ or night…
Uber is paying driver less in GA. Wee need to stand up. Enough is enough
I drive Lyft in Atlanta and once picked up two black men wearing ski masks
Does Lyft care? Then they try to upswell their own insurance because apparently Geico doesn’t cover me picking up passengers in the ghetto
@@philogeneregis1006 Facts
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@@NashBrooklyn I concur wholeheartedly
people are complaining in my city D.c. not getting rides to come pick them up on time unless it's 15 minutes away, that goes to show you a lot of drivers quit left !
Thank you Professor! As a former Investigator, our boss always explained to us: “If you don’t feel safe in the area, get out of there”. We always go in teams of 2 and we had situations where my partner didn’t feel safe and we left the area immediately. This Uber warning is strange and careless, period! Safety first, schedule second!!❤
Uber wants us to go to those areas because it benefits them, show me the money! 😂
@@cynthiaj1009money talks and BS walks
I’m a Diamond status Uber Eats Driver and for months, there has been no surges, boosts, quests, nada. In fact, if they don’t tip, we actually lose money! They don’t pay for our oil changes, tires, maintenance of our precious vehicles. Not only did they lower the pay. It takes me 2 hrs online for 1 request! Inland Empire, CA is where I drive. They had me drop off 30pack of coors light at midnight to the middle of the worst neighborhood around. They paid me $7!!!! Do they tip? Not in this area. We risk our lives for what? #ImWorthIt #UberEatsDrivers #UberGreed
I have driven for Lyft for 6+ years …. I have not been driving this past year though because of the crime that has risen to record high numbers … I miss it. I loved doing it … I was lucky to get amazing customers. But my safety is more important. Plus the money has gone way down. It’s just not worth it anymore. I won’t come back until things change. And now if the Ride Share companies are threatening us if we “cherry pick” they will deactivate us …. We’ll it sounds like I have made a good choice to walk away.
2 weeks ago, I was waiting for a rider in a very rough part of town and a guy 2 houses up comes outside with an AK-47 under his arm, he walks out looking the other way down the street, and then walks back in. Me having lived in the hood before, I know that nobody ever telegraphs what they are trying to do. He may have been looking down the street but there was nothing to see. I think he came out to see if I was an enemy of his and then realized I was just a Lyft driver…….This is the type of stuff that you can expect doing rides in bad areas. I shouldn’t have risked it going there, but it’s a shame that Uber is EXPECTING drivers to take these kinds of risks.
Yeah a few weeks ago waiting in the hood in milwaukee, Some woman "checked" me. Asking me who I was, what I was doing there. All while having her hand on her waist..... No thanks
This happened to me in New Orleans East a month ago!
please keep on this! I now deny every ride to Baltimore. I acknowledge that Baltimore has some nice areas, but I've had too many dropoffs and situations that literally had me shaking on the inside, worrying about my life and safety. I refuse to do these trips when Uber is down to paying an average of $20/hour. But yeah, I get punished. Needs to be a state law that as an independent contractor and using my own vehicle, that I should have the right to deny these scary rides and not be punished for it!
Stop picking up in most of the East, 9th ward, 8th ward, 7th ward, Central city, Hollygrove, CutOff, and Garden Oaks
Personal safety is a personal choice. Do what's best for you. Situational awareness is key 🔑
I concur
One thing that really pisses me. off is that they expect us to follow only their routes even if there is a road block blocking their route or if their routes involve an accident and we find a short route. They have threatened me several times about kicking me off the platform for Lyft if I don't start following their route
@@jenniferkihlthau9849I don't do rideshare. You look I don't want someone smoking cigarette or drinking water in the bottle and throwing it on the floor of my car. Just food deliveries.
All these ride-share platforms are failing, they just don't want to pay their drivers...
As a Uber user I get what drivers go thru. I’ve seen wild stories. They are independent contractors they can do as they please. I have a high ranking because I’m on time and I tip.
UberEats driver here in SoCal rarely get a tip nowadays because they get charged a service fee that says it goes to the driver. Wrong! $3.50 a delivery is all we get. $7.09 on Saturday & Sunday nights! We actually lose money now delivering for them.
I drove for Uber regularly from 2018 until the pandemic. In 2019 a Uber driver and a passenger were killed by a passenger who was high on PCP. Uber never mentioned it to the drivers in our area and if a dropped a ride off in that area I would immediately go off line until I got back into a safer area. I drive in the DC area and I driven a few times recently and every time I end up in DC Uber tries to send me to a certain part of town that I have no business being in at night. I decline the trip and Uber pings me again with another trip to the same area. As you said we are independent contractors and I should be able to pick my fares as well as maintain my safety. God knows Uber won't.
How is it even legal with this type of business practice? Putting drivers in harm's way while these CEOs travel with a military type of security.
Don’t forget making millions of dollars off our back. They’re off spending business trips in Europe at the finest hotels while we are in the trenches getting beat up and killed and treated like shit on a daily basis.
Drivers are independent contractors so they decide where to work. But Uber can also decide if they don't want to hire you if they don't want to for just about any reason that is legal and non- discriminatory of protected classes
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I'm wonder how many people were deactivated for this? This article is from 2020. I once had an interaction with Uber where the rep asked why I was driving out of my market. I told Uber because "I'm an independent contractor ” and I decide where and when to drive.
I'm done driving uber. It was great when I first started making $1200+ a week. Now I can't even break $150 per day including weekends. All I get is trip radar requests, which forced me to do airport trips because there was a queue and I can guarantee trips. Now, the airport queue will do trip radar and drivers who were BEHIND me in line can accept it and take MY airport runs. I am averaging $10/hr before expenses because I am forced to wait at the airport for hours.
The TLC in NYC couldn't force taxi drivers to pick up passengers in shady neighborhoods, what makes Uber think they can force drivers to do that? Uber CEO has lost his marbles. 😂🤣
These low income area is where most of problem take place. Uber made these people's spoil.
Exactly! They give the clients too much power.
Better deactivated by Uber than deactivated by a bullet. No way am I going to risk my life for $4.33.
I quit driving Uber today. It’s just not worth it! Especially when you consider the price of cars today and the wear and tear you put on the car the lowering of value to the car. while driving Uber. The rides don’t pay enough for all of that.
I avoid more dangerous areas but also areas I’m not very familiar with. I prefer to stick to the same general areas I know the best, as I believe it’s safer to drive that way.
Dara should go out and pick up those disadvantage riders it would be very good PR for him.
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Lol, I ain't picking people up in the hood.
I keep it simple, for me if there is an AKA or just a letter where the name should be? No ride. I’m not letting Uber or Lyft put me in harms way. They don’t I’D I don’t pick up. Also as a driver learn to filter your work area. Tourists areas, resorts are my play grounds. No night clubs, no residential, no malls but top of my list no rides more than 45 minutes out.
My life is more important than going into bad areas. No amount of money is worth it.
Free markets…free choice
The major problem l have with Uber, it's not the destination , it's the pay . Their cut are out of control . Me ? I will go anywhere if those stupid people were not so greedy.
Right
What you don't wanna drive 20 mins for 3$? 😂
In almost all cases unsafe places pay little no more than $2.50
As someone who lives in a “disadvantaged area”… these riders tend to want the most, rate the worst and not tip. Fuck em
Wait times increase as drivers decline or cancel rides. Its the only way to increase wait times. Drivers decline because the trip isn't worth the time, the cost, or the loss of positioning. Drivers cancel because they didn't feel safe, smelled weed, suspected a drunk to vomit, or an animal to shead animal hair all over seats; which isn't easy to remove. They cancel because they cant get pass security gates due the riders forgetting to message their codes and not responding when drivers try to contact them. Drivers cancel because of wait times after arriving at the pick up location, or because the pick up location is wrong. These are the reasons for long wait times, not descrimation. If an area is unsafe, its not descrimation. If Uber blocks these locations so drivers cant see they are entering a dangerous area, the driver will cancel once arriving. So you will still have long wait times. Reason for cancel, unsafe pickup.
The issue with low income areas is the low income. They can't afford to order an Uber because their income is too low to afford the ride in the first place. Thats not a negative thing. I cant afford a Lambo. Is it discrimination because I don't own one?
If your income is low, your city offers optional transportation. The city bus, free shuttles, friends and family. Its not Uber's place to make rides affordable for low income riders. If they did, there will be a heavy decline, because drivers drive to make profit. Drivers must deduct fuel,maintience,car insurance, phone bill and car loans from any earning made while driving. Only after these expenses can drivers make profit. How does a low income ride fit into all this? Someone has to pay the cost. Driver fares and offers no longer allow for free rides or even low income ones. This means Uber will have to pay the difference, or local and Federal Governments will have to add rideshre credits to welfare benefits.
Well said. Uber want to play charity on our expenses.
That’s a classic. Uber tries to call drivers classist to make them feel guilty and maybe stop cherry-picking. The only classist jokester are the CEO and the high execs. Treating independent contractors like employees while getting the bigger piece of the pie. Turning drivers into the same disadvantage group they pretend to care about.
I just drive for Lyft in Denver. Unfortunately, it's very hard to determine where better and worse areas are here because gentrification is so rampant that there are affluent pockets in even the worst neighborhoods, but I do avoid certain areas at certain hours. But mainly I evaluate destinations for distance and where I want to be at what time of day for my schedule. Lyft shows you the destination, briefly anyway. That said, all my worst riders have been black, though some of the best have been, too.
I ABSOLUTELY do this….Im not risking driving in sketchy areas of Washington D.C. and dealing with people who were raised by parents that didn’t teach them basic skills of how to be an adult. Always more likely that you will have problems so I opt to avoid all rides in certain areas.
I'm Black...and many Black Riders come into your car with their problems..Mad, wanting to drink alcohol, asking to smoke weed, cursing, talking loud on phones..wanting to make stops..eating in car, leaving trash behind..Broke and No tips .. and If you are doing Uber eats these are the same ones who claim they never got their delivery
Lyft is severely cutting pay in Pittsburgh. Recent Taylor Swift concert paid surges of around $3-5 per ride. That's a drop of about $10 per ride during busy events. Regular surge bonuses have dropped roughly 60% on weekday evenings and around 80% on Saturday nights. One cannot even earn a living doing this work in my city and many of the drivers are jumping toward part-time. It's disturbing.
The city I moved out of had multiple "disadvantaged" areas, they were so "disadvantaged" that you would hear gunshots on a daily basis, every car had at least one smashed window, and no officer would get within 4 blocks of said places for fear of death.
It was the danger for me because they don't pay you enough per ride anyway! They always sent me to the dangerous areas because I was black. I lived in Henderson and they would always send me to North Las Vegas and keep me there until they felt like I had made enough money and then they would send me home back to my area where I lived! Not with it! Might as Well drive a bus or truck and get paid for real without the eminent danger!
Maybe if they ran these companies as a business instead of a scam things would be different
I don't reject trips because they are to disadvantaged areas, I reject thrips because they are to areas where I am unlikely to get another trip fast. the thing is, you look at the boost areas in LA and you see that they are in those better parts of LA. If Uber/Lyft wanted to solve the problem they could just have an all day one buck boost+ in the underserved areas and problem solved. Bu they would rather threaten us.
Ok so what happen if you get shot or get hurt,will Uber responsible for our misfortune and compesate us or just wash your hand and do not take responsibility for the drivers.
Facts!
Is this what happened to the female driver in PGH pa ? Did she get a warning? Is that why she Lost her Life? unbelievable
I refuse to drive a passenger with no name no photo and a 4.75 rating into the a Washington DC hood in Northeast and Southeast at 1am. I'm a black guy I'm not sorry! Sorry
I agree 100%
I live in the DMV too and I agree.
And Why are the low pay trips in low economic areas? Are they getting a different rate than other areas? Why are some people getting different rates?
I'm the one out on the street having to deal with the crazies.
I'm An Independent Contractor & I Choose Where I Go & Who I Pickup- Period.
Dará Also has the benefit of the FBI looking out for corporate executives, apparently.
😂, when I commented I didn’t see others comments, then I was 🤔 are my fellow drivers afraid of the injustice department guys questioning them? Woooo! The things we have to go thru!
The drivers are the ONLY REASON THESE SERVICES ARE STILL IN EXISTANCE OR EVER WERE IN EXISTANCE!
low income areas are the highest in crime and least safe. uber is absolutely begging on both knees for another lawsuit. drivers should see the start and end points as part of the offer screen. drivers have to make educated decisions to be as safe as they can
Screenshot, screenshot, screenshot. We can gather data as well.
They warned me as well as Minnesota driver .
Are drivers still contractors? Where do the dictates end? If it is my car and my time to do with as I see fit then I do not see how yet another dictate fits the model. I work as a contractor in another industry and I would not allow a client to dictate like this. Let another shop take the low baller gigs or the over demanding micromanaging clients... sorry. I'd rather go out of business. This is why I chose self employment in the first place... otherwise how is this different than being an employee? I can always find a job doing sh1t work elsewhere for similar pay and no bennies.
Yeah, I've also been seeing a lot of bags left at restaurants from people not picking up food lately. I wonder if it's Uber.
Cherry picking is a lot harder in the Florida panhandle. We get very little info before we accept or reject a trip.
I cannot do this anymore. I was rear ended while doing Lyft, with no passengers. I didn't bother to tell them. It felt like more trouble than it would have been worth. My attorney didn't feel it was worth pursuing either.
I have been renting a car off and on since. It took me over 20 hours just to pay for the car. It took several hours more just to catch up on gas. It is not worth it when it when McDonalds pays $15 an hour.
This is such a horrible deal.
I predict we will start seeing some of our new friends crossing the border to start doing this. I would not be surprised to see their costs subsidized.
Guess? I’ve picked up some and this is the reality: 4 passengers and the trunk full of groceries for just $4.53! Ridiculous 🥵. Not anymore, 👋
Yeah dont rent a car for ride-share. That is a pure trap my man.
Oh yeah? Who is gonna subsidize their costs of doing business? Would you care to be a bit more specific?
Venezuelans are already the majority of drivers in some cities!!
@@elcucuydelasmananas6363these peoples are having the same bills to pay like you
It's not discrimination, but a driver's choice to take the ride or not. Another example of how Uber's CEO expects his workers to do things he wouldn't do himself.
How to get out of disadvantaged areas and get more than 2 trip filters:
Set your trip destination filter for a good area that you are currently at least 20 miles away from. If you get a trip going in that direction or if you've had your trip destination filter on for longer than 10-15 minutes, remove the destination and when you get sent out of your preferred zone, put the destination filter back on.
Some people don't even have common courtesy to wait outside. That's a automatic cancellation in thier face.
I got almost carjacked in Oakland California early in the morning in a bad area before I didn’t mind driving until that happens in that bad area so I avoid it as much as possible in the bad areas
I picked up a bunch of drunk pax last night, loud blasting music acting crazy. They asked for charger so I gave them one to use. Apparently it wasn’t fully plugged in so it didn’t charge their device. The music was so loud I couldn’t hear anything they were playing on a portable boom box. Since my app wireless charger didn’t work they through it out the window. At the end of the trip when I asked for my charger the guy said it didn’t work so he through it out the window. I have these assholes on video if you want the footage be happy to send if not that’s fine. But pax be freaking crazy these days.
In some cities the Police don't patrol in some areas.
Tell them to make their own automatic vehicles with a robot to transport their customers if we dont make no money theres no point of driving we are independent contractors correctly said i acept what i want how I want and where my safety is endangered I will not go into those area im not going out like no idiot
Well said!!!
I have an idea: 6:16 Why doesn't Uber put those beautiful self driving vehicles with robots in the high demand crime areas instead of using human beings as test dummies.
It is very unfortunate that independent contractored drivers are being threatened of deactivation by Uber if they drive don't drive in high risk and car jacking areas that Uber Corporate Excutives are not willing to drive into themselves especially since Uber doesn't protect the drivers' safety with a security guarded onterrage.
I drive in my city up to 5 mile radius and i aint going to no hood just to get disrespected just some guy calling me racist without saying anything
As soon as I accept a ride and I know that I'm going to an area that I do not want to be at, I turn off the app. Like that, I know that I won't receive any requests that will keep me there longer than I want to be. I drop off the passenger and can easily return to where I want to be at. Once I reach where I want to be, I turn the app back on. Some people tell me that I'm passing up on rides. As an independent contractor, that is my choice!
Tell those same people who are saying you’re passing up on rides “don’t tell me how to run my business”! If you want to move cheap shit, then you do it instead of telling me how to do shit!
In other words, those same people should be worried about their own pockets instead of watching yours!
Many states have no protections for drivers. In NYC a bill was created making it a felony to assault a driver with up to 25 year penalty. In many states you have no protections and i think a lot of drivers are thinking about safety. Many parts of the country there's gun fire on a daily basis in some of these areas. Crime is up and you pulling up in your car is very risky. I've experienced a lot of questionable pickups in these areas and it was my street smarts that kept me safe.
What is Uber and/or Lyft going to do for you when you are murdered and/or robbed????
Oh I know…….nothing!!
Here's the thing: I'm from Brooklyn, NY, born and raised but now residing in the DC region. I will avoid the hoods of SE DC at night. Some neighborhoods have one way in and one way out (meaning you literally have to back out to leave). I've had trips in and out of these neighborhoods where passengers are picking up drugs and doing drug transactions (and I'm not talking about marijuana). Drivers get robbed, carjacked, and shot in these areas. I drive a 7 series also...so why in the hell would i go back to any of these neighborhood? I've switched to only doing Premium so I can avoid picking up in these areas. Until these platforms can better vet passengers, I'm refusing to go. If I'm an independent contractor, then it's my choice and no one can tell me otherwise.
Let Mr CEO go drive in those areas and then good luck to him!
"Disadvantage" is misleading. In Baltimore, it means ghetto, hoods, and projects. They also don't want us there. They make me nervous because every body is looking l.
Coming a place of neutrality: Have Uber execs rent a Tesla, go to their "disadvantaged" areas, give rides at different times. Log their experiences and give feedback to optimize rider/driver experiences. Go from there. Find common ground and better humanity
I drive in Denver and when a trip comes up for Aurora, I decline it day or night.
I have no desire to continually do drop offs for cigarette, fastfood, groceries, and for $5.
They don’t have to kick anyone off. We’ll leave.
I got this warning a month ago, I wasn't avoiding any areas.
Uber is getting desperate like there 💩 fares
The police don't even go into some of these areas, my vehicle has been hit by bricks, rocks, and various bottles! There's random gunfire throughout the city, I quit working these areas several years ago.
Your content is great, can you please invest Into a microphone. You can hear all the background.
I will NEVER do pick ups in South Dallas. I don't give a shit what they do, period.
I smoke outside of my car, wait 10 minutes then get back into my car. I had someone threaten to give me the worse review if I didn't stop for them to get them some nicotine/cigarettes. I took my butt home after that trip and slept like a baby. I could not believe the stuff people do to drivers. 🥺😭😭😲😭 How about accepting a trip with no extra stops then a person get in and add like 3 extra stops.😭😭 They don't ask you if you want it..😩
Dara sure is making it easy for Lyft to take the lead
I go to all areas in KC and rarely drive by a pickup due to scary looking people. I have kicked out a few. Fortunately, I drove a school bus for six years which turned me in to a fearless bad ass.
I dropped off a guy who I picked up in a good area to a bad area.. a lady had paid for his ride.. this was a black guy. I have no prejudice. He had stated he had a few dogs he wanted to bring, I said fine, go get them. He came back to the car without them, tried a few more x and finally I told him I have to get going. He stated that I was talking too much so I shut up and drove him.. when I got to his location.. a 711 store.. he got out and told me to open the trunk. I told him no, because he had not put anything in it. I was not going to do that. He became belligerent and I drove away from him with the passenger door still open. He ran to the car even more agitated and I told him.. there is NOTHING of his in the back of the car, and to shut the door. I told him a few times to do this. He slammed it with all his might. I was pretty shook by this so decided to report it to Uber.. I locked the doors and was sitting there, he started throwing rocks at the car. I got out of there quickly. I have nicknames for certain areas.. Sketchville, Bangerville, tweekerville.. certain areas of town I DO avoid. Uber support is nearly nonexistent. They went from bad to worse.. From India to The Philippines.. I dont speak tagalog or else it might not be so bad.. I could not understand them at all.. they put me on hold for 20 mins then hung up on me.. 2nd try.. I could barely understand the guy.. he wasnt of much help.. very disappointing.
Don't work in bad neighborhoods don't risk your life for $3 or $4 dollars or at night time your life is more valuable then this 2 companies or this jobs.
So, why is uber keeping me in Newark, NJ for a while? Doing from 3 to 11 minutes rides around Newark, when Newark is the carjacking capital of the world????
I'm glad I haven't received this warning! I don't take city rides anymore. I drive where I feel safer.
Also, the lowest amount I've seen since "upfront fares" was $4.43 in my market. Last night I seen one come thru at $3.92, smh.
Dara the exploiter should give hazard pay for going into high crime area
Low income/trailer park areas have busses before there was uber they rode on busses, rarely took cabs... now uber feels there's a market for low income or trailer park folk........and its not
Criminal background check on drivers not passengers let us start there, you can’t even tell if the person you’re accepting into your car is a criminal or not. Collecting the tip afterwards instead of up front to show us before we accept… Just little things
I am wondering how long the Authorities wud be patient observing those mishaps from Uber?
When does ENOUGH IS ENOUGH 😢?😜happen?
Give more boost, someone will take those passengers if the app pays.
Try driving Uber in Baltimore, you take one wrong turn your in a bad area then if you take one right turn your in a good area 😂 😂
Thats what they cater to that's their intended market..Though it started off as a luxury service
Wasn't covered in the video, but as per terms of service, we are not allowed to be armed or carry, am I supposed to risk my safety for a ride in the hood? I work part time mostly after 10pm, after my main job. Time to right for equal pay and safety.
That's not about colors.. it's about safety concerns.. even they are black or white or brown . Driver knows which areas is dangerous..they have to listen driver first and then get their decision
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Send your robo taxis there to never come back. Lol
could you address the ruling by the NLRB last week that could make it easier for gig workers to form unions? would really love to hear more perspectives on it and to see if there are other gig workers like me that have more interest in unionizing. thanks!
No such thing as a low income customer. if they are low income in fact they would get that handout bus pass and ride free
Prop 22??!!
I'm a minority, and I pick up in minority areas all the time. hell, that's the majority of my rides. I cherry pick high paying rides only. and for enough money, I'll drive anywhere. however, I dont' drive at night in bad areas. and I will cancel any ride for any reason I see fit, which is why my cancel rate is at 90%.