I just called my 2 representatives and 2 senators and here's what to say for people who are (like me) awkward on the phone : "Hi, my name is X, I live in (city + state), my zip code is X. I am in favor of net neutrality and I strongly encourage my senator/representative to please oppose any type of repeal. I don't need a response. Thank you very much." And that was it, they want it short, clear and quick too. They won't ask you any questions they'll just say "Alright I'll pass it on, thank you" and that's it! Do the right thing guys!!
A ton of people are talking about this, especially some of the bigger RUclipsrs. If they haven't already they will by the end of the week most likely, because I'm pretty sure this is suppose to take place on the 4th or 14th if it's not changed by the public.
My country loves to copy bullshit US corporate laws, so if this passes it's only a matter of time before Europe goes "we can make MOAR money with this!?". It's always about them making more money which they always sell as "better for everyone", "economy blah blah", "jobs".
cor·po·ra·tion ˌkôrpəˈrāSH(ə)n/ noun a company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity (legally a person) and recognized as such in law.
shurudogaro That was because the Citizens United decision, one of the most retarded American Supreme Court cases ever, defined corporations that way. Angry Joe did not make a mistake, corporations are actually not people. Under American law, they're seen as people, but under human morals, they are not. Just like slaves: they weren't people but property under 18-19th century law.
shurudogaro You know that joe meant it in the way that corporations don't have emotions as a person (Even though they are classified as person). If there is a profit to be made, they'll do everything to be the ones to get it. It's basic economy.
The goal is to provide internet users a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking new internet services. (I know this isn't an original quote, but bear with me)
I just called EVERY Senator and Congress member in my State, and I only left 2 messages, everyone else I actually talked to them. I said and I quote, "I joined the Army to defend the people's rights, not to let companies and organizations like the FCC take away something that we have been fighting to keep pretty much since it was implemented. I do however, understand that the companies are just that, a company. It is their job to make money, but the Senate and Congress is there to make sure that the way they make their money doesn't infringe on any rights of the people. If we are to retain our freedom of speech, we need to retain freedom of the internet as it is the largest platform today where we can make our voices heard, as well as the fact that some of the rules/restrictions they have planned is a total invasion of everyone's privacy." If most people take that approach, god willing they won't try to do this again next year, also keep in mind that the people you will be calling are most likely getting thousands of calls, so if they actually answer, being angry at them won't help Net Neutrality's case. We will teach the FCC to not mess with our Net Neutrality!
what are you talking about ? How can companies use up all the bandwidth of an ISP ? If a company is using a lot of Bandwidth do you really think they have the same infrastructure as you and me ? Do you really think something like Twitch is paying the same price and has the same services than say, a small online hardware shop with a few hundred visitors per day ?
EA could be crushed overnight by consumers IF consumers could find a way to live without one...star..wars...game. Seriously, if consumers don't want to be taken advantage of don't buy EA's products. THE END, but noooooo. We can't live without ma Ster Werz!!!!
I'll hope we never have to see a video where Joe starts it off by yelling, "YA DONE FUCKED UP THE INTERNET." "It takes FOOOOOUUUR HOOOOOUUUURRRS to load a webpage."
Well technically, net neutrality is the government not letting the internet be... Non net neutrality is business not letting the internet be.... Either way the internet is not being "let be", no matter what happens.
ISPs own their equipment and pay for the bandwidth they package and resell to consumers. It is not “your internet connection” as the pro Net Neutrality like to characterize it, you are obtaining a service under contract, and do not own anything beyond your own equipment. Everyone has the right to offer services to others on whatever terms are acceptable to them, and no one has the right to force you to serve other people; that is slavery. In a free market, you are able to choose between different providers of services, and the free market is the most efficient and ethical way to do that. The FCC is unconstitutional and should be abolished.
I appreciate your viewpoint but it doesn't contradict the notion I put forth... In that Net Neutrality is the the government not letting the internet "be".... and Non Net Neutrality is business not letting the internet "be"... The internet is a bigger concept than just commercialism OR government regulation... It is a revolution of communication, evolution, technology, and even consciousness... That just so happens to have businesses using it for profit, and governments using it for power and regulation... Have a great day man.
I've seen just a few tiny amount of misinformed commentators pushing back using the "Government is BAD!" angle and that they need to stay out of our Internet AT ALL costs and that they want the Corporations to Run the Net preferably. One, MrDapperton even claims that Net Neutrality actually "Ruins" Free Speech (LOL!) and that the "regulations" and the Title II classifications are too punishing. I'll debunk those here, but may make another video in the future explaining these counter points. From a Twitter Conversation I just had: He's wrong on all points. That neutrality "ruins" free speech is incoherent nonsense. He argues against himself. He believes our Government to be "greedier" than Corporations. Our Government is already being RUN/Influenced by those Corporations (in certain places - in this case the FCC). A few are so paranoid of smart/obvious regulation they will argue against anything w/ "GOVT." slapped on it. But we wouldnt HAVE the net w/o SOME Govt. oversight, Hell phone companies could have prevented new dial-up Internet service providers from even connecting us customers. Ajit Pai's plan doesn’t extend to reviving rules we HAD in the 90's or early 2000s that MANDATED competition. Instead he’s wants to SCRAP regulations the FCC put in place to PROTECT customers from these conglomerates that now dominate the market. Leaving us no options but them. If a new start-up happens to challenge them do you really think they will win against all their power and the rules set in their favor? No they will crush or buy them out asap. All this battle is really about is Title I or Title II classification. ISP's hate Title II as its a bit more costly to them & would hurt them more if they are caught doing stuff they aren't allowed to do than if classed Title I. But the real smoking gun is the ridiculous argument that the ISP's wont invest anymore & these regulations are too strict for these poor multi-billion dollar ppl. Yet here those very same ISP's say, Title II will have little to no effect on investment on their technologies (OF COURSE any idiot would know this as they HAVE to, to keep making money): arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/05/title-ii-hasnt-hurt-network-investment-according-to-the-isps-themselves/
AngryJoeShow you should have to pay for what you use. A Porsche cost more than a Toyota. If you use massive amounts of bandwidth.. you should have to pay for it. Nothing is free. As far as a “free and open internet” is concerned... why don’t you ask all of the conservatives that have been deplatformed and demonetized how “free and open” the internet is. Say good bye to net neutrality. It’s gone.
My Birthday is on December 14th, so If net neutrality lives, it's definitely because I made a wish for it to happen instead of wishing for superpowers. Remember my sacrifice Edit: Nevermind, we got rekt. Sorry I couldn't wish the world problems away, I shall now go in exile
You can take my job. You can take my time. You can take my car. You can take my education. You can even take my house. But if my porn is on the line we're going to start a war.
iNfam0usColors i downloaded mine to my 1 TB external hard drive back in the day bro. 847 GB worth. I'll be good, but It's still fucked up for guys like you man.
People like me who deal with disabilities and mental illness, use online resources everyday, to function and connect with each other. As for me I don't know how I am going to keep my job if the tools that I depended on every day are taken away form me because I can't afford to pay more.
Schools, home-schools, small businesses, anything and everything that needs internet resources in order to function accordingly. If it passes, they can basically kill off their competitors by blocking off their products.
Yuh J And the man before put him in down the pipeline. Both men should've known not to appoint someone who worked for a cable company in charge of the regulation of cable companies. This is a non-partisan issue. Let's all put out hate boners away and come together to stop this fuckin travesty
no matter who is running for president they will always be a rich person exploiting others. Obama was doing it with his health care acts (proven by wiki leaks of Hillary's emails, where Hillary said she was going to keep Obama care in place to let it crash the country in so many ways to implement a more communist type government) i think its safe to say trump was the lesser of the 2 evils, sure, but neither 1 was particularly a good choice, in fact none of the candidates were particularly a good choice they were just meh choices, it was a standard run of the mill "i hate this guy and you should too" type of presidency.
Liberals and conservatives as much we disapprove of each other, we must stand together and fight for the internet. I mean, how else are we gonna talk shit to each other without consequences of being face to face.
*Guys please. It doesnt matter where you live. Like everything else, if shit happends in USA, it will effect your country as well, sadly. So please, let's get rid of this issue together.*
We have a similar law being passed in Holland.. increased surveillance coming next year :D Guess I'll double proxy VPN my TOR browser with increased encryption from now on.
Oalmax not really, we still dont eat chlored chicken in europe, we dont drive american cars, we dont have mass problems with gun violence, we charise free education and free healthcare.. so please tell me how america is such a huge trend setter.. dumbasses
For anybody who dosn't get this, it's dassically the internet version of paying for tons of DLC in your games, you want youtube? Buy the intertainment DLC, want Netflix? Buy the movie DLC, want news? Buy the media DLC, want Twitter? Buy the social DLC, etc etc. All of these things that you should already be able to view because you already are paying for your internet. Not only that, but they are going to slow your internet down if they don't want you to watch Netflix, play WOW, or whatever. This will also be an invasion of privacy as well.
1 question. When has that happened. We lived without Net neutrality all the way till 2015 and nothing happened. What is the indication to you that something will?
down side- loss of free speech, higher internet costs upside- no more day one dlc, no more day one patches bigger than the game, no more always online, no more loot boxes. think about it if they data cap everyone how many people are going to be buying games that take or exceed their data cap just to install it. always online will overflow REAL quick. even loot boxes have to be online to register your purchase and update your crap. it''ll go back to the days or old. complete games, limited bugs, no micro transactions. it'll be glorious. except for the whole loss of free speech part, but hey trade offs right.
Ajit Pai is the corporate commander face reveal. LOL Edit: In all seriousness though I deleted the other comment of mine because some people were disagreeing with me on it because ‘I obviously don’t know my own constitutional rights.’ 1. I don’t want everyone fighting each other this time. I’m tired of everyone fighting each other about facts in this day and age. 2. Yes I do. This may not be in the constitution but it’s infringement to a couple of the amendments within the US constitution not just freedom of speech (1st)
They are and a collective push to cancel premium service from at&t to Cumcast and all the major ISP We must prepare for a massive cancelation of our internet services
Years ago, I left your channel behind. Now, I put my past beef aside to stand with you and others against a common enemy. Because this affects us all. Spread the word people! STAND TOGETHER
Once Thai government promote a project like this and we Thais fought until its gone- hopefully you would win too America! Cheers from Thailand don't let them ruin our freedom!!!
It's not a smile, it's an evil SMIRK (or maybe it's Botox gone wrong? I mean he looks like he has no other facial expression...then again: Can you imagine his school years being bullied for his name, which sounds like pie ("So Mr. Pai, you want to have your pie and eat it, too?" :D ^^)? Maybe that's why he's such an evil douchebag? (The money that the corporations will throw his way probably helps, too of course!))
Everyone on the fucking planet in 2016: Can’t wait ‘till this shitty year ends! Everyone on the fucking planet in 2017: C-can we go back to last year? Please?
Bethesda Addict Yea, like really... I thought 2016 was like any year, it was not a good year but I from what it seems I survived it and so did you. And now 2017 rolls around and I'm like "OK this is a bad year" lol this is crazy
2016 sucked because we knew it would affect 2017 negatively, not because 2016 was bad in and of itself. Trump getting elected? Yeah, it happened in 2016, but we knew the ramifications would not be felt untill 2017. well here we are, feeling those ramifications.
Ackwell this would affect Europe as servers from American sites will be throttled as well I believe that Europe can charge him with violating the human rights of european citizens and make him wanted criminal within Europe.
I seriously don't see this going through. There's just way too many people who rely on the internet for their day to day things, who can't afford to get gouged for ridiculous amounts of money. And if it comes to that, there are plenty of us out here who were around before the net even went up. Sure, we'd really hate to lose access to all the news, entertainment, socializing, etc. that the internet makes possible, but if I had to make a choice between keeping the bills paid and food in the fridge or being online, I'd blank my hard drive and sell my laptop. And if enough other people made that same decision, the fatcats wouldn't get a fraction of their expected return on this whole diabolical plan. I say if they do push the end of net neutrality through, we all start disconnecting. Hit them where they live. In the wallet. Who's with me?
NN is BAD for you and me, but it's good for the mega corporations such as facebook, google, and netflix who have flipped their shit because ISPs want to charge them to upgrade the network infrastructure where they tie into the system. Even though they've done it for years and years and your netflix hasn't been throttled in forever. (You have to throttle it if it's taking up too much bandwidth otherwise you slow the entire internet down for everyone else). - Like you video game when loads of people tune into netflix friday night. If the ISPs cannot charge netflix money to upgrade their services then they'll have to charge you and me for it. - Or just provide shit internet for everyone.
Just take us back. please. Make america British again. these idiots don't know how to run a country and i don't just specifically mean Trump or Hillary or whoever. Still not sorry about the tea though.
In the uk companies like sky offer better broadband deals if you buy the tv subscription bundle. I don’t see how net neutrality exists in uk. On the face of it we are already being heavily regulated
Why does every say they've been trying to sneak this by? People have known about this for awhile. I've been donating money when I can, signed every petition, wrote emails to every congressman possible, AND made phone calls to the office of a few of them (ones that I'm not even a constituent of). This shit is important people should ahve been on this already and not this last minute shit. REPLY
It astounds me how ignorant people who support Net Neutrality are. I've explained it dozens of times now I need to just write it down and copy paste it because I've never heard anyone give a rebuttal they just realize how wrong they are. ISPs aren't trying to throttle websites they don't like, they're trying to raise the price for GOOGLE, FACEBOOK, and NETFLIX so that they can upgrade the lines where these corporations tie into the network so that the high traffic doesn't cause a bottleneck in that region. Before NN These companies paid the cash and the lines were upgraded at no cost to you and me, before the upgrades could be made or in the early days before netflix agreed to pay immediately that traffic HAD to be throttled so that everyone's internet in the region wouldn't be completely screwed. With NN your internet will be slower or you'll pay for your ISP to upgrade the lines for a corporation like google. Beyond the corporations flipping their shit, NN also makes it WAY easier for the elite to enact regulations pertaining to the internet which could be used to censor free speech.
Joes, I shared this with a journalist last night and he was appreciative. I believe this may be the best (in terms of meaningful impact) vid you have put together, and I have been watching since your early days. Together we can make a difference. Thank you for all your hard work, brothers.
Imagine if ANY other service was run like this net neutrality killer. "Oh, you're filling up a pool with your water? Sorry, you gotta pay the pool water fee, which is double your usual water usage rate." "You have multiple TV's and pc's? Well THAT'll run you extra!" This is why Cable is dying, you have to pay extra for channels, and a package that you barely ever use. All companies are greedy no mater how much they say they aren't. Regulations are set in stone for those who are susceptible to being fooled, tricked, and manipulated. you know for a FACT that the elderly are going to be robbed if this shit happens.
im not worried at all for one simple reason, most people severely underestimate the power and influence of the porn industry. They will not stand for this shit. It's the porn industry that won VHS vs Betamax and it's the porn industry that won Blu-ray vs HD DVD. Porn was one of the first to embrace online streaming and made tons of money doing it. They have influenced all kinds of broadcasting and recording technology since the 60's. You better believe they won't go quietly.
I love the rant but i think you are mistaken. They still take part in a capitalistic system. the bigger sites will now get the opportunity to buy the fast lane or maybe even to slow the competitors lane, which would make their site more attractive and get a bigger audience which is mroe reveneu. Why would youporn be opposed to grow even larger? and this is also a metaphor for every other industry on the internet
As a European I feel that all I can do is raise awareness through social media. Together we were able to slap some sense into EA, we can do this again. If the worst comes to worst I can only hope that Europe has some spine left. What I would really want to see is this backlashing on the US corporations with internet based companies massively migrating outside of the US (although this may only solve part of the problem or none at all, remains to be seen) and even regular people as well. America is the dream you may say. Personally, I think that's just common misconception at this point. And let's not forget that the Internet has some giant corporations of its own. Question is: are they going to fight or are they already signing contracts behind our backs?
M3galodon it would work. But only if their money gets threatened. A good way to win this. Is hit them in their wallets hard as fuck. But peoples greed is just unquenchable..
ISP's in Europe have enormous lobbying power just as they do in the US. however, luckily the EU have it enshrined in law that net neutrality must be upheld. in the UK, ISP's signed up the Open Internet Code whereby they all agreed to not block/ damage services of competitors. I think this is because in the UK and other parts of Europe there is more competition, whereas in the US you've got no choice depending on where you live. Having said that, i don't trust the EU on this if the US takes lead... they're unelected technocrats immune to democracy so it really just depends on whether ISP's want it, which in the UK i cant imagine they would because of competition.
Don't rely on a video game reviewer for serious political information LOL. Joe has no fucking clue what he is talking about, and his general audience knows even less LOL.
Lol "lies" NN is socialism. Its strict and cant allow new ISPs to start up. Therefore, no competition for a domiant ISP. Learn before you comment such stupidity.
" *The day that death note is true* " *me typing* : aj..it..paai..ii *Tomorrow at the news* : ajit pai had a nonsense heart attack We fear that we will abort deleting net neutrality we apolagise
Soldiers gather your weapons! We must fight for porn! We must fight for games! We must fight for memes! We must fight for the Internet! Join me brothers and sisters and fight against this evil "Pie"!
I think this is a great way to get the Democrats and Republicans and everyone else to get behind something. We've all been fighting for too long and this is something that will definitely effect all of us
Canada is trying to support American people with this problem. We are lucky we don't have to deal with it but it could affect us though since we visit American sites and much of our traffic is routed through the USA. Our government made a statement urging USA not to go through with it, since it's appalling... Canada is all about an open and free internet, so we are supporting USA citizens as much as possible.
I'm a US citizen and I want to assure you that we are not all as insanely stupid as the first commenter. The ignorant ones are just the loudest because they don't understand large scale social or political forces so they pick an easy solution that fits their worldview and then attribute all the "bad" things to "cucktastrophes" or some such nonsense. As if being more macho will solve all the worlds problems. So stupid...
I don't even know what to think of Canada, and I live here. On one hand you have them saying that they want a free and open internet because they support free speech, and on the other hand you can be fined for accidentally referring to a transgender person as "he" or "she". The lack of consistency bothers me.
nowai90 i know its a lie their dream is then also the nethelands dream.... u can get ritch.. maybe like america XD just work hard and get FUCKED over by our leaders to steal mony and freedom slowly.
"Ajit Pai is lying through his teeth!" that is an understatement, because, Those castle walls in his frigin mouth are teeth?! They have to be very powerfull lies to go through those things....
Danny Dan I laugh at that big tooth cross eyed look he has on his face. It like he's spaced out when the interview talks. P.S. Love the profile picture I like that show.
DragonInferno99 Ω well you can always start a revolution. If they censor us on the internet? Go old fashioned paper and pencil, tell everyone that we will be heard and we won't be pushed over by the rich and powerful.
This shit pisses me off, although I live in England nowhere is safe, if this passes it's only a matter of time before it goes overseas and watching people suffer with a tv style subscription service will be painful. I hope the best for my overseas brothers and sisters. Keep fighting, I hope you will prevail.
I don't blame you. I'd just lean on the side of caution because if they get away with it in America i have a bad feeling that it will not take long to happen in England. That being said it's a protected right here so I am not 100% sure if it will even be allowed to be infringed. Worse has happened though.
god, this is fucking horrible, how are ppl supposed to afford all that shit? we gotta put a stop to their plans, this bill cannot go through, if it does this will be devastating for many ppl, most who have internet will no longer be able to afford it, myself included so i know what i am talking about.
Unfortunately we don't get to have a say in this, congress may if they can deem it atrocious and coopershit or whatever the fuck it is (acting off of their emotions and personal benefit instead of a set systen
"Even if we loose we have Options. We as Americans have the right to call and give our opinion or votes on what we the people think what's best for the USA 2.The Administrative Procedure Act act bars federal agencies from making "arbitrary and capricious" decisions, in part to prevent federal regulations. 3.Congress also could intervene."
I want to be able to browse Pornhub in peace without having to go to my IPS and tell them I'd like to buy a hardcore pornography package! Don't fuck this up America!
Too bad. If you want to Comcast or Verizon to give you access to Pornhub then pay them the market price. Nobody should subsidize your hardcore pornography.
A A RON TF2 and CSGO started this, however none of it is pay to win, it’s just that people are stupid enough to pay for items that have a particle effect over them, or have a design texture on their gun. Call of duty and Battlefront II however are pay to fucking win no doubt!
Why do you think EA did what they did? They were bribed by the internet providers to create a fuss so this could go under the radar. There is no other reason why EA would do something this stupid.
Lmao I remember people getting so caught up with the politics in this. Lmao predictably nothing happened of course and we ended up getting faster internet because of it
my name is Peter I'm from Denmark this is not gonna affect me now but if you the people of the United States of America loses this battle this would affect the entire world I cannot do anything from my country but I can ask you to stay in together and do the right thing if not for United States then for the rest of the world this is no joke
Alacorn I was born and raised in Europe and I still go there it’s beautiful especially Croatia but there is no land better than America that’s why everything that goes on here is not only broadcasted but also copied all over the world baby!!
The way it will affect the world: - it will send a signal that the free internet isn't free when even the "leaders" of the "free" world won't keep it free.
thanks joe lots people are so badly informed on this we need this for everyone not having nn isnt gonna make it better even if we didnt have it people would NOT be better off
smgofdvld lots of people are badly informed?? It's videos like this that are MISINFORMING the masses! All the things that Joe said would happen if net neutrality was repealed NEVER HAPPENED two years ago before net neutrality became law. Net Neutrality is a solution to something that was never a problem in the first place. You can't say the government should regulate the internet and rant and rave that the internet should be free and open at the same time! How fucking stupid are you sheep?!
Which means that it's now REALLY suspicious that someone is going "Hey, so I know that it doesn't technically matter whether or not these laws are here, but I want to get rid of them. Even if they're not affecting me right now."
Well either way I can kinda benefit. I have stock invested in Verizon and if net neutrality goes I make money. If it don't I benefit from free internet
Being Brazilian, all I can do is cheer for all you guys, but if you hear any way i can help, just tell and i spread the word on the way i can,Brazil is with all of you.
Well, I mean, it could. ISPs could slow them down to unusable levels, may charge them so much that all of it becomes subscription based, or ISPs could make you pay for the ability to access those sites. I get that you're almost certainly joking, and internet porn isn't exactly the number one concern for most of us, but the point is that this can influence virtually ever facet of the internet, no matter how large or small, public or private. They can do this to any website they like, and once they have it through they will have the ability to practically shut down any websites that try to help connect opponents of their overreach. This will make them more money, give them more social and political power, and potentially ruin the internet for many Americans. This isn't a joke, and their only arguments against these allegations are variations of "Well yeah, but we won't." That's why people are so concerned, and that's why we need to fight so hard against this.
I just don't understand why people would dislike this video, even if you dislike AngryJoe himself, Net Neutrality effects EVERYONE. If you disliked this video, please reconsider yourself as an idiot.
The internet has been in common use since the 90's. We NEVER had the problems Joe is saying would arise if NN is abolished. You guys are the doomsdayers, the burden of proof is on *you* to substantiate your claim that no NN is bad. If you know anything about competition in the market you'd know the less government regulation, the better. Let the consumers regulate the businesses, just like they do with coffee, toilet paper, and computers. It's really not that complicated. I honestly think you all must be teenagers. Am I right?
2004: Madison River Telephone Company blocked Vonage services because it was competition, unblocked after FCC fined them for violating Network Neutrality rules. 2005: Comcast severely throttled most peer-to-peer sharing services. FCC declared this to be a violation of the N.Neutrality police and had it fixed. 2007-2009: AT&T forced Apple to block skype, and other competing VOIP phone services on the iPhone. Google Voice app recieved similar treatment in 2009. 2010: Windstream Communications admitted to HIJACKING USER SEARCH QUERIES within Firefox's google toolbar, redirecting them to the companies own search portals and results. 2011-2013: Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon cooperated with each other to block Google Wallet, a mobile-payment system that competed with a similar service all 3 had a stake in developing (funny enough, it's name is fucking ISIS). this one in particular shows that "free market" between competitors will NOT keep the shit from hitting the fan. 2012: Verizon was caught by the FCC for blocking the use of tethering apps on their phones. Verizon was even demanding google remove 11 free tethering apps from the market. reason being they were trying to charge $20 fees to use your phone as a tether/wifi hotspot, violating N.Neutrality laws and charging you extra for something you already owned (in essence, selling you a product, then forcing you to pay to unlock said product) 2012: AT&T let only a severely limited amount of their customers use the FaceTime app because they were working on their own program to compete. complaints citing N.Neutrality to the FCC forced them to unlock access. 2016: AT&T and Verizon get into legal disputes because they skirt the "our service is faster while yours will be slower" section of the N.Neutrality by instead making it so "OUR service won't count towards your data cap if used from your home wifi, THEIRS will use up data everywhere". most damnable: 2013, Verizon v. FCC, judge asked if Verizon would 'favor some preferred services, content, or sites' (the exact thing everyone is afraid of), to which their counsel Helgi Walker answered (on multiple occasions to the question) “I’m authorized to state from my client today that but for these rules we would be exploring those types of arrangements.” mind that the current suckwad running the FCC was a lawyer for the above company that BLATANTLY admitted to attempt doing what everyone is afraid of them doing. it's been non-stop "give them an inch, they'll take a fucking mile". the second you get complacent and think "it won't be that bad, we can trust them" is when you get their fist up to their shoulder. as for "Let the consumers regulate the businesses", kinda hard when the current moguls block, sabotage, and monopolize the entire market. hell, the examples shown display that the "free market" system will fail here because without N.Neutrality as a safety net, they will be free to strangle and smother competition through sheer financial force. seriously, looking at companies out there, the only one i can see MAYBE fighting back with internet speeds and N.Neutrality freedoms would be Google. most if any other companies don't have the financial power or backing to compete.
Yeah. Fuck em up joe! This is why I respect your channel so much because not only do u post great gaming vids but you also talk about real problems. Good shit. Angry army for life!!!
I just called my 2 representatives and 2 senators and here's what to say for people who are (like me) awkward on the phone :
"Hi, my name is X, I live in (city + state), my zip code is X. I am in favor of net neutrality and I strongly encourage my senator/representative to please oppose any type of repeal. I don't need a response. Thank you very much."
And that was it, they want it short, clear and quick too. They won't ask you any questions they'll just say "Alright I'll pass it on, thank you" and that's it!
Do the right thing guys!!
Was literally kicking the idea back and forth about if I should call or not. I want you to know, your comment tipped the scales and I did call.
zapspiders92 Hey thanks man! You did the right thing :)
I bet EA is behind all this.
"The goal is to provide players with a sense of accomplishment for unlocking new websites."
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Ok so? They’re better than u ever will b 😂😂👌
Mike Voss ha
Michael Caceres I don't think anyone can be worse than EA.
CrazyeyesDark Apparently the FCC managed it.
Thank god someone with millions of subscribers is talking about this. Not enough people are talking about this
Solsys for real Joe is our savor
zaherking oh I don’t watch him :p
pewdiepie made a video about it
Philip DeFranco talked about it multiple times.
A ton of people are talking about this, especially some of the bigger RUclipsrs. If they haven't already they will by the end of the week most likely, because I'm pretty sure this is suppose to take place on the 4th or 14th if it's not changed by the public.
Ajit Pai is no match against everyone else in the world.
Yeah, about that...
Astrophysics 3 people just butt fucked us.
Astrophysics mission failed, we’ll get them next time
assshit pie*
As a European, all I can do is cheer for you...
Go America! You can do it!
Not only that, if NN is lost, the world will copy it eventually, us europeans will be affected by it just as the US citizens will be.
and everyone like to follow usa too
+Harpy. While that isnt even true. Most sites WERE hosted in the US... Get it? It will be outsourced to other nations. Tukatuk ur Jobs!
My country loves to copy bullshit US corporate laws, so if this passes it's only a matter of time before Europe goes "we can make MOAR money with this!?".
It's always about them making more money which they always sell as "better for everyone", "economy blah blah", "jobs".
Pvt. Duckling Go out and do a march with your friends against it. Just don't sit around!
"Corporations are NOT PEOPLE! They are there to make money."
-AngryJoe 2017
By far, my favorite quote from Joe
cor·po·ra·tion
ˌkôrpəˈrāSH(ə)n/
noun
a company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity (legally a person) and recognized as such in law.
AngryJoe made a mistake so what? I know what he meant, he just said it wrong or it could be a joke because he was laughing.
shurudogaro That was because the Citizens United decision, one of the most retarded American Supreme Court cases ever, defined corporations that way. Angry Joe did not make a mistake, corporations are actually not people. Under American law, they're seen as people, but under human morals, they are not. Just like slaves: they weren't people but property under 18-19th century law.
ElectricPyroclast its terrible that it lets people walk away from corporations legally blame free.
shurudogaro
You know that joe meant it in the way that corporations don't have emotions as a person (Even though they are classified as person).
If there is a profit to be made, they'll do everything to be the ones to get it. It's basic economy.
People should be up in arms about this tbh
Holy shit it’s Dom!!!
People don't know what they got until it's gone.
I'll care when we get the gold standard back
They were too busy killing each other on Black Friday for Video Games and TVs and iPhones to realize what's happening
Dom?? Your a gamer?!
That smile. That goddamn smile
His smile haunts me in my fucking dreams.
smile has been licking ass all his life
Xinel you can tell Ajit Pai has a crooked smile it’s the face con artist a crook
That guys probably the most hated person in America right now
LPX he is lol
If he's not. Americans should make sure he is. I've never hated someone this much.
LPX he deserves to be drawn and quartered. Every part of it slow and painful.
I’m in love with your profile picture.
I can't believe Trump appointed him yet Trump doesn't get blamed for this. Ajit Pai is just carrying out the orders.
THEY'RE GONNA EA OUR INTERNET!
If you buy enough loot boxes you might be able to unlock access to youtube!
The goal is to provide internet users a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking new internet services.
(I know this isn't an original quote, but bear with me)
Well is EAing it better then Ubisofting it?
open a box to see which internet site u can acess?
ZyniX 36 hahahahaha
I just called EVERY Senator and Congress member in my State, and I only left 2 messages, everyone else I actually talked to them. I said and I quote, "I joined the Army to defend the people's rights, not to let companies and organizations like the FCC take away something that we have been fighting to keep pretty much since it was implemented. I do however, understand that the companies are just that, a company. It is their job to make money, but the Senate and Congress is there to make sure that the way they make their money doesn't infringe on any rights of the people. If we are to retain our freedom of speech, we need to retain freedom of the internet as it is the largest platform today where we can make our voices heard, as well as the fact that some of the rules/restrictions they have planned is a total invasion of everyone's privacy." If most people take that approach, god willing they won't try to do this again next year, also keep in mind that the people you will be calling are most likely getting thousands of calls, so if they actually answer, being angry at them won't help Net Neutrality's case. We will teach the FCC to not mess with our Net Neutrality!
Apologies for the long comment :P
Wonderfully said
Agreed!
Can i help if i'm a Singaporean?
what are you talking about ? How can companies use up all the bandwidth of an ISP ? If a company is using a lot of Bandwidth do you really think they have the same infrastructure as you and me ? Do you really think something like Twitch is paying the same price and has the same services than say, a small online hardware shop with a few hundred visitors per day ?
For those who still don't understand net neutrality.
Imagine EA as ur Internet provider! That's the FCC if they win!
EA could be crushed overnight by consumers IF consumers could find a way to live without one...star..wars...game. Seriously, if consumers don't want to be taken advantage of don't buy EA's products. THE END, but noooooo. We can't live without ma Ster Werz!!!!
Well SHIT! Iran just utilized Net Neutrality!!! Why can't we be so lucky!!!
Dragon Scale nooooooooooooooo
I'll hope we never have to see a video where Joe starts it off by yelling, "YA DONE FUCKED UP THE INTERNET."
"It takes FOOOOOUUUR HOOOOOUUUURRRS to load a webpage."
Reid Parker it's going to take 4 hours to load the part of the video for his to say 4 hours
I think at that point I would move out of the country. The internet is too precious
I know right except this will soon affect the rest of the world
you probably won't, not with that pay wall at least.
Reid Parker his channels probably gonna get censored lol
AJIT PAI IS APPROACHING THE GENERATOR....
KronnangDunn XD Yes
Ajit Pai makes EA look like fucking saints, Jesus Christ
Hell, I don't think EA would do something this stupid.
More like Ass-shit pie
Da mystic Potato he makes a disguise for the demons
So the FCC won't let me be
Or let me be me, so let me see
They try to shut me down on MTV
But it feels so empty without me!
Well...this looks like a job for you....
Net neutrality is the FCC not letting the internet be.....
Well technically, net neutrality is the government not letting the internet be...
Non net neutrality is business not letting the internet be....
Either way the internet is not being "let be", no matter what happens.
ISPs own their equipment and pay for the bandwidth they package and resell to consumers. It is not “your internet connection” as the pro Net Neutrality like to characterize it, you are obtaining a service under contract, and do not own anything beyond your own equipment. Everyone has the right to offer services to others on whatever terms are acceptable to them, and no one has the right to force you to serve other people; that is slavery. In a free market, you are able to choose between different providers of services, and the free market is the most efficient and ethical way to do that. The FCC is unconstitutional and should be abolished.
I appreciate your viewpoint but it doesn't contradict the notion I put forth...
In that Net Neutrality is the the government not letting the internet "be"....
and Non Net Neutrality is business not letting the internet "be"...
The internet is a bigger concept than just commercialism OR government regulation...
It is a revolution of communication, evolution, technology, and even consciousness...
That just so happens to have businesses using it for profit, and governments using it for power and regulation...
Have a great day man.
I've seen just a few tiny amount of misinformed commentators pushing back using the "Government is BAD!" angle and that they need to stay out of our Internet AT ALL costs and that they want the Corporations to Run the Net preferably. One, MrDapperton even claims that Net Neutrality actually "Ruins" Free Speech (LOL!) and that the "regulations" and the Title II classifications are too punishing. I'll debunk those here, but may make another video in the future explaining these counter points. From a Twitter Conversation I just had:
He's wrong on all points. That neutrality "ruins" free speech is incoherent nonsense. He argues against himself. He believes our Government to be "greedier" than Corporations. Our Government is already being RUN/Influenced by those Corporations (in certain places - in this case the FCC). A few are so paranoid of smart/obvious regulation they will argue against anything w/ "GOVT." slapped on it.
But we wouldnt HAVE the net w/o SOME Govt. oversight, Hell phone companies could have prevented new dial-up Internet service providers from even connecting us customers.
Ajit Pai's plan doesn’t extend to reviving rules we HAD in the 90's or early 2000s that MANDATED competition. Instead he’s wants to SCRAP regulations the FCC put in place to PROTECT customers from these conglomerates that now dominate the market. Leaving us no options but them. If a new start-up happens to challenge them do you really think they will win against all their power and the rules set in their favor? No they will crush or buy them out asap.
All this battle is really about is Title I or Title II classification. ISP's hate Title II as its a bit more costly to them & would hurt them more if they are caught doing stuff they aren't allowed to do than if classed Title I. But the real smoking gun is the ridiculous argument that the ISP's wont invest anymore & these regulations are too strict for these poor multi-billion dollar ppl.
Yet here those very same ISP's say, Title II will have little to no effect on investment on their technologies (OF COURSE any idiot would know this as they HAVE to, to keep making money): arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/05/title-ii-hasnt-hurt-network-investment-according-to-the-isps-themselves/
Joe i agree with you on net neutrality, but damn you need to lose some weight
Spread Socialism.
abolish capitalism.
AngryJoeShow you should have to pay for what you use. A Porsche cost more than a Toyota. If you use massive amounts of bandwidth.. you should have to pay for it. Nothing is free.
As far as a “free and open internet” is concerned... why don’t you ask all of the conservatives that have been deplatformed and demonetized how “free and open” the internet is.
Say good bye to net neutrality. It’s gone.
We must protect ne-
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VaultBoy93 Are you being salty?
Lol
My Birthday is on December 14th, so If net neutrality lives, it's definitely because I made a wish for it to happen instead of wishing for superpowers. Remember my sacrifice
Edit: Nevermind, we got rekt. Sorry I couldn't wish the world problems away, I shall now go in exile
Kashimaro Clickclick and a legend was born
Yeah but you said your wish so now it won’t come true smh! I will tell my grandkids of your failure!
Bless this man
Kashimaro Clickclick There is always next year lad. Dun worry ;)
A legend was born
Ajit Pai=Corporate Commander
Ahah...So THATS who's been under that mask.
he is the real life coorprate commander
he is the real corprate commander....
You can take my job.
You can take my time.
You can take my car.
You can take my education.
You can even take my house.
But if my porn is on the line we're going to start a war.
iNfam0usColors ditto
I was only halfway done.... halfway done.
iNfam0usColors I’m with you I will start a riot if I can’t beat my meat every Friday night 😤😡🤬
iNfam0usColors i downloaded mine to my 1 TB external hard drive back in the day bro. 847 GB worth. I'll be good, but It's still fucked up for guys like you man.
Same
Ajit Pai is actually pronounced "a shit pie"
It really is 😂😂😂
Facts.
Coos Oorlog his weakness is the resses coffee cup
Copyrighted make it happen
lololololol
"I never thought I'd be fighting side by side with a Liberal."
"How about a friend?"
"Aye, I could do that."
This....This made me happy.
I smiled at this reference
Actually, if you're not a liberal, you really would be against net neutrality. Please look into this, it's not what they're making it seem.
I've been thinking the exact same thing lmfao thank you for this.
Do you know what happened in Portugal after they removed their Net neutrality?
People like me who deal with disabilities and mental illness, use online resources everyday, to function and connect with each other. As for me I don't know how I am going to keep my job if the tools that I depended on every day are taken away form me because I can't afford to pay more.
It also will probably affect schools as well
Schools, home-schools, small businesses, anything and everything that needs internet resources in order to function accordingly. If it passes, they can basically kill off their competitors by blocking off their products.
Unlock your favorite website through loot boxes coming soon!
I can't wait to get 25% of the RUclips website! It'll be an SSR and have a 3% drop rate! OH BOY!
I got a supply drop today, I wonder what it is. I got Facebook, Twitter, ....... HOLY SHIT..... I GOT XBOX LIVE!!!!
NO NOT THE LOOT BOXES NOT THE LOOT BOXES OH THEY ARE IN MY EYES MY EYES AGAHAHAHAGHAAHAHAHAGAAHAH
A CA Guitarzan next thing uk its a common 1 hour xbox live.... Yayyyyyy :D
A CA Guitarzan LUCKY BASTARD! I ONLY GOT A DUPLICATE OF XVIDEOS!
Joe is a much more clever guy than some people give him credit for.
MrMystery99 Howso
Clever for what? Making a video about net neutrality? Not hating just honestly curious what crazy clever thing you're talking about.
Probably about how Joe callrd out how corporations bought their way into personhood.
nice try joe
but which one???
I love how 5 people get to choose what happens to the whole internet, instead of the millions of voices in our democracy
why would the people vote against their own interest?? its like voting to shorten my life span... does that even make sense??
Do you really think it's a democracy? I mean.. really?
Yuh J people choosed trump and ended up being a maniac, so all trump suporters are maniacs?
Yuh J hillary is a proletarian bitch, all the people that voted for her are proletarians?
Yuh J And the man before put him in down the pipeline. Both men should've known not to appoint someone who worked for a cable company in charge of the regulation of cable companies. This is a non-partisan issue. Let's all put out hate boners away and come together to stop this fuckin travesty
Stay the *FUCK* away from my internet neutrality! I 'm with you Joe!
WE FOUGHT EA WE GOTTA FIGHT THIS PLEASE STAND UP AND STAY BEYOND☺
I all of a sudden hate EA less. That's how bad this is
Im not saying to do that as that is fucked up but hes not changing his opinion.
Terrence Sproulls fart noises and splooge marks
Americans are getting sick of rich people exploiting others. There's more of us than there are them.
Getting sick? Dude... we literally just elected a rich person exploiting others as President...
FailedComedian The majority voted against him, he won the electoral vote.
The country
The majority of americans hated both choices and stayed home. The majority hates trump, however there was no option to vote against corruption.
no matter who is running for president they will always be a rich person exploiting others. Obama was doing it with his health care acts (proven by wiki leaks of Hillary's emails, where Hillary said she was going to keep Obama care in place to let it crash the country in so many ways to implement a more communist type government) i think its safe to say trump was the lesser of the 2 evils, sure, but neither 1 was particularly a good choice, in fact none of the candidates were particularly a good choice they were just meh choices, it was a standard run of the mill "i hate this guy and you should too" type of presidency.
Cant wait for a south park ep about this.
...
john menjivar lol better catch it when it airs on tv unless you'll be paying online to see it before it reruns 😂
Instead of Hitler ,Cartman should dress up as Ajit pai
Simpson's already have a few Indians, why not add this "I eat pie" guy
It will be AMAZING
It will happen.
this country is turning into the 1984 book!
Liberals and conservatives as much we disapprove of each other, we must stand together and fight for the internet. I mean, how else are we gonna talk shit to each other without consequences of being face to face.
hammertoe00 This comment needs more votes
Exactly, without Net Neutrality, we won't get any memes of dumb Leftard and Reptards. SAVE THE FUCKING MEMES YOU IDIOTS!.
....I guess I can....for the memes
Rally up you liberal cucks and you memefags! It's time to fight for our right to meme.
But but... gubment regulashuns R BAD! FREE MARKET! Corporashuns care about uS!!
*Guys please. It doesnt matter where you live. Like everything else, if shit happends in USA, it will effect your country as well, sadly. So please, let's get rid of this issue together.*
Oalmax I'll support you guys, even from Argentina
We have a similar law being passed in Holland.. increased surveillance coming next year :D
Guess I'll double proxy VPN my TOR browser with increased encryption from now on.
I'll get my pack of Kangaroos!!!
Oalmax not really, we still dont eat chlored chicken in europe, we dont drive american cars, we dont have mass problems with gun violence, we charise free education and free healthcare.. so please tell me how america is such a huge trend setter.. dumbasses
.........Unless you're in Russia.
For anybody who dosn't get this, it's dassically the internet version of paying for tons of DLC in your games, you want youtube? Buy the intertainment DLC, want Netflix? Buy the movie DLC, want news? Buy the media DLC, want Twitter? Buy the social DLC, etc etc. All of these things that you should already be able to view because you already are paying for your internet. Not only that, but they are going to slow your internet down if they don't want you to watch Netflix, play WOW, or whatever. This will also be an invasion of privacy as well.
1 question. When has that happened. We lived without Net neutrality all the way till 2015 and nothing happened. What is the indication to you that something will?
Sol33t303 well said
down side- loss of free speech, higher internet costs
upside- no more day one dlc, no more day one patches bigger than the game, no more always online, no more loot boxes.
think about it if they data cap everyone how many people are going to be buying games that take or exceed their data cap just to install it. always online will overflow REAL quick. even loot boxes have to be online to register your purchase and update your crap. it''ll go back to the days or old. complete games, limited bugs, no micro transactions. it'll be glorious.
except for the whole loss of free speech part, but hey trade offs right.
Sol33t303
Thanks for the breakdown bud.
Sol33t303 It's an incredible invasion of our privacy and our rights as free people. It's a slow transition into slavery!
Can't we kust go to the supreme court and sue ajit pai?get him impeached
Ajit Pai is the corporate commander face reveal. LOL
Edit: In all seriousness though I deleted the other comment of mine because some people were disagreeing with me on it because ‘I obviously don’t know my own constitutional rights.’ 1. I don’t want everyone fighting each other this time. I’m tired of everyone fighting each other about facts in this day and age. 2. Yes I do. This may not be in the constitution but it’s infringement to a couple of the amendments within the US constitution not just freedom of speech (1st)
MY GOD!
Finally after all these years...
SlytheWarrior Good job. You figured it out.
Hahahahahahahahahah holy shit that's perfect hahaha.
It’s messed up that they tried to do this a few years ago, response was overwhelmingly negative and now they are trying to sneak it through again.
Wont be the last time either. We will always fight for our freedoms.
We have had this rematch so many times that there is no point in even counting.
So long as the Trump appointed asshole is heading the FCC this will keep happening.
GuyN0ir not like it almost happened during the previous administration...
Bacall McElroy They will always keep trying, over and over again till they win.
More people and/or RUclipsrs need to talk about this more.
imasaltyguy I mean this happense almost once every two years.
Pewdiepie
I'm born in the Philippines we free internet here and we have free Wi-fi
What can they possibly do?
They are and a collective push to cancel premium service from at&t to Cumcast and all the major ISP
We must prepare for a massive cancelation of our internet services
Years ago, I left your channel behind. Now, I put my past beef aside to stand with you and others against a common enemy. Because this affects us all. Spread the word people! STAND TOGETHER
Ajit Pai is the EA of Chairmans
9TheMiddleMan9 fuck khajiit!!!
He’s the Dark Souls of Chairmen
9TheMiddleMan9 I would say more like Microsoft when they first introduced the Xbone.
9TheMiddleMan9 so true
9TheMiddleMan9 corporate commander's bodyguard.
Once Thai government promote a project like this and we Thais fought until its gone- hopefully you would win too America! Cheers from Thailand don't let them ruin our freedom!!!
Someone need to whoop that evil smile off his face!
I would whoop off that smile with a tank shell, it's so annoying
It's not a smile, it's an evil SMIRK (or maybe it's Botox gone wrong? I mean he looks like he has no other facial expression...then again: Can you imagine his school years being bullied for his name, which sounds like pie ("So Mr. Pai, you want to have your pie and eat it, too?" :D ^^)? Maybe that's why he's such an evil douchebag? (The money that the corporations will throw his way probably helps, too of course!))
is he indian?
He might just be smiling from insanity
why is no one actually doing that? why is no one taking up arms or bashing this dudes skull in?
Thanks for making this a topic Joe. Did my part to speak out on this, and so I can go ape shit if this goes through
Universally agreed statement: *"Ajit Pai has a very punchable face."*
Juan Ayala Too true. His fucking smile... I swear to God he possibly has the most punchable face I have EVER seen.
ohh ya
Juan Ayala just seeing a picture of him that scumbag makes me angry. He looks like the villain he is.
Thi Fernandes We all do man, we all fuckin do.
More like ashit pai
Everyone on the fucking planet in 2016: Can’t wait ‘till this shitty year ends!
Everyone on the fucking planet in 2017: C-can we go back to last year? Please?
Bethesda Addict
Yea, like really... I thought 2016 was like any year, it was not a good year but I from what it seems I survived it and so did you. And now 2017 rolls around and I'm like "OK this is a bad year" lol this is crazy
2016 sucked because we knew it would affect 2017 negatively, not because 2016 was bad in and of itself.
Trump getting elected? Yeah, it happened in 2016, but we knew the ramifications would not be felt untill 2017.
well here we are, feeling those ramifications.
Bethesda Addict
Im Up for another huge Shillery loss upset. Best week ever.
This shit is unbelievable to listen here in Europe where EU made unrestricted internet access a human right.
Ackwell okay... i have to say... good for you man.
Im pretty sure you have hate speech laws aka anti-conservative censoring. No thnx
Ackwell this would affect Europe as servers from American sites will be throttled as well
I believe that Europe can charge him with violating the human rights of european citizens and make him wanted criminal within Europe.
DeltaTheAwsome PSYFrame Perhaps you shouldn't be hateful lol.
Ackwell it just shows how people with power will do to people like us
I seriously don't see this going through. There's just way too many people who rely on the internet for their day to day things, who can't afford to get gouged for ridiculous amounts of money. And if it comes to that, there are plenty of us out here who were around before the net even went up. Sure, we'd really hate to lose access to all the news, entertainment, socializing, etc. that the internet makes possible, but if I had to make a choice between keeping the bills paid and food in the fridge or being online, I'd blank my hard drive and sell my laptop. And if enough other people made that same decision, the fatcats wouldn't get a fraction of their expected return on this whole diabolical plan. I say if they do push the end of net neutrality through, we all start disconnecting. Hit them where they live. In the wallet. Who's with me?
“You wanna play Battlefront? Wait-bad example...”
Actually, this is perfect. This is essentially pay-to-win.
Zach Hill not right now
IP Films 20$ add on for free stuff....
OUT INTENT IS TO PROVIDE PLAYERS WITH A SENSE OF ACCOMPLISHMENT 💰
NN is BAD for you and me, but it's good for the mega corporations such as facebook, google, and netflix who have flipped their shit because ISPs want to charge them to upgrade the network infrastructure where they tie into the system. Even though they've done it for years and years and your netflix hasn't been throttled in forever. (You have to throttle it if it's taking up too much bandwidth otherwise you slow the entire internet down for everyone else). - Like you video game when loads of people tune into netflix friday night. If the ISPs cannot charge netflix money to upgrade their services then they'll have to charge you and me for it. - Or just provide shit internet for everyone.
*I live in the UK, but the best of luck for you guys! Chances are if you lose, it'll effect us in some way too. Now get winning!*
Just take us back. please. Make america British again. these idiots don't know how to run a country and i don't just specifically mean Trump or Hillary or whoever. Still not sorry about the tea though.
Fuck tea. I’m Pro Coffee.
KARI KARI!! Murica🇺🇸💀😂
With you being out of Europe, our laws don't protect your internet either. Good luck being next
In the uk companies like sky offer better broadband deals if you buy the tv subscription bundle. I don’t see how net neutrality exists in uk. On the face of it we are already being heavily regulated
This video need more attention.
Tamal Plays it’ll blow up.
Why does every say they've been trying to sneak this by? People have known about this for awhile. I've been donating money when I can, signed every petition, wrote emails to every congressman possible, AND made phone calls to the office of a few of them (ones that I'm not even a constituent of). This shit is important people should ahve been on this already and not this last minute shit.
REPLY
The entire topic to be honest
It astounds me how ignorant people who support Net Neutrality are. I've explained it dozens of times now I need to just write it down and copy paste it because I've never heard anyone give a rebuttal they just realize how wrong they are. ISPs aren't trying to throttle websites they don't like, they're trying to raise the price for GOOGLE, FACEBOOK, and NETFLIX so that they can upgrade the lines where these corporations tie into the network so that the high traffic doesn't cause a bottleneck in that region.
Before NN These companies paid the cash and the lines were upgraded at no cost to you and me, before the upgrades could be made or in the early days before netflix agreed to pay immediately that traffic HAD to be throttled so that everyone's internet in the region wouldn't be completely screwed.
With NN your internet will be slower or you'll pay for your ISP to upgrade the lines for a corporation like google.
Beyond the corporations flipping their shit, NN also makes it WAY easier for the elite to enact regulations pertaining to the internet which could be used to censor free speech.
If this law passes in america than it can be in other countries also. I'm from india and I will not allow this kind of things.
Joes, I shared this with a journalist last night and he was appreciative. I believe this may be the best (in terms of meaningful impact) vid you have put together, and I have been watching since your early days. Together we can make a difference. Thank you for all your hard work, brothers.
Imagine if ANY other service was run like this net neutrality killer.
"Oh, you're filling up a pool with your water? Sorry, you gotta pay the pool water fee, which is double your usual water usage rate."
"You have multiple TV's and pc's? Well THAT'll run you extra!"
This is why Cable is dying, you have to pay extra for channels, and a package that you barely ever use. All companies are greedy no mater how much they say they aren't. Regulations are set in stone for those who are susceptible to being fooled, tricked, and manipulated. you know for a FACT that the elderly are going to be robbed if this shit happens.
no one would stand for this shit...even if they passed a law, people would tear it down
how? people only access the internet we don't have physical control of it
The internet was fine before the title 2 regulations or "net neutrality" was put in place in 2012.....
Count Shockula you mean when internet speed was shit
How? The only way would be to get together and get rid of it politically.
really hope that if this shit passes, people actually tear it down
It's already been passed, goes into effect in a few weeks. Nice knowing ya guys
Ajit Pai is the true identity of Snoke
Snoke?
The Mudpit it's a Star Wars reference
Godzilla is approaching the Internet. The Internet is losing power.
Not really, we only just started the fight now.
Np, so many large RUclipsrs are coming out to speak out.
EX: markipler.
Pack your bags everyone, we're moving to the deep web.
you still need internet connection for that :D
J V XD that’s a way out
J V just wanna clear things up, its dark web that we can access with TOR not deep web
If net neutrality is removed your ISP's would be able to throttle or block VPN traffic. They can see when you're encrypted.
romand271 dark web is in the deep web
If net neutrality dies tomorrow, I'm looking forward to a new Corporate Commander skit on this topic.
allthestarsaredead Get ready for that skit
allthestarsaredead if net neutrality dies tomorrow how will you watch a skit
Fuddruck The King I don’t think the law changes immediately but I could be mistaken.
im not worried at all for one simple reason, most people severely underestimate the power and influence of the porn industry. They will not stand for this shit. It's the porn industry that won VHS vs Betamax and it's the porn industry that won Blu-ray vs HD DVD. Porn was one of the first to embrace online streaming and made tons of money doing it. They have influenced all kinds of broadcasting and recording technology since the 60's. You better believe they won't go quietly.
Porn industry owns the internet. They are the true inovators on the internet.
hell ya porn saves the internet once again
Can we get this to the top?
top comment
I love the rant but i think you are mistaken.
They still take part in a capitalistic system. the bigger sites will now get the opportunity to buy the fast lane or maybe even to slow the competitors lane, which would make their site more attractive and get a bigger audience which is mroe reveneu. Why would youporn be opposed to grow even larger?
and this is also a metaphor for every other industry on the internet
Never Surrender, Never give up net neutrality, let you voice be heard Angy Army !
I am part of angy army grrrr 😡
As a European I feel that all I can do is raise awareness through social media. Together we were able to slap some sense into EA, we can do this again.
If the worst comes to worst I can only hope that Europe has some spine left. What I would really want to see is this backlashing on the US corporations with internet based companies massively migrating outside of the US (although this may only solve part of the problem or none at all, remains to be seen) and even regular people as well. America is the dream you may say. Personally, I think that's just common misconception at this point.
And let's not forget that the Internet has some giant corporations of its own. Question is: are they going to fight or are they already signing contracts behind our backs?
M3galodon it would work. But only if their money gets threatened.
A good way to win this.
Is hit them in their wallets hard as fuck.
But peoples greed is just unquenchable..
You're a smart guy
ISP's in Europe have enormous lobbying power just as they do in the US. however, luckily the EU have it enshrined in law that net neutrality must be upheld. in the UK, ISP's signed up the Open Internet Code whereby they all agreed to not block/ damage services of competitors. I think this is because in the UK and other parts of Europe there is more competition, whereas in the US you've got no choice depending on where you live.
Having said that, i don't trust the EU on this if the US takes lead... they're unelected technocrats immune to democracy so it really just depends on whether ISP's want it, which in the UK i cant imagine they would because of competition.
The internet in Europe sucks.
Basically the internet is our freedom of speech
well done Joe. Thanks for getting this info out thru a platform like yours. Much appreciated.
also......love him or hate him, John Oliver has a great (and current) video on the topic.
Don't rely on a video game reviewer for serious political information LOL. Joe has no fucking clue what he is talking about, and his general audience knows even less LOL.
Net Nuetrality has nothing to do with politics. That's the point here. In your response you should put "LOL" 4 times!! Look forward too it.
Billy Blaster im sure you do though right? Lmao
Man Holy, I sure would love to hear the undoubtedly informed "Billy Blaster"'s thoughts on it
Down with Ajit Pai! GET HIM OUT OF THERE! Him and his bullshit lies have got to GO!
Lol "lies"
NN is socialism. Its strict and cant allow new ISPs to start up. Therefore, no competition for a domiant ISP. Learn before you comment such stupidity.
Perhaps YOU should learn what will happen if we lose it then, hmm?
Clearly, you're a troll. Good day!
DeltaTheAwsome PSYFrame stop copying and pasting your fake news on every thread
Idk who appointed him
"This guy right here, Ajit Pai", is in the running for the "Most punchable face" award
Bruh this comment wins lol
I'm going to pay this guy a visit.....if you know what I mean😏
SuperHelmBros Gaming He’s won.
SuperHelmBros Gaming
Who else running?
Munrogo12 Martin Shkreli
" *The day that death note is true* "
*me typing* : aj..it..paai..ii
*Tomorrow at the news* : ajit pai had a nonsense heart attack
We fear that we will abort deleting net neutrality we apolagise
Soldiers gather your weapons! We must fight for porn! We must fight for games! We must fight for memes! We must fight for the Internet! Join me brothers and sisters and fight against this evil "Pie"!
Fireraid233 you misspelled farquad
ELF MONSTER what exactly?
Your first point is easily the most undervalued one.
Akrak it's not even meant to be taken serious...
We will make them eat humble pie!!!!
I think this is a great way to get the Democrats and Republicans and everyone else to get behind something. We've all been fighting for too long and this is something that will definitely effect all of us
Sirun B not all republicans are for it. But I an aware that those people exist. I don't like big business becuase it fucks everyone over
Sirun B As a republican I completely disagree, we want jobs, but not being locked behind doors and not being amble to speak our minds
Great way for democrats and Republicans to censor 3rd party ideas.
Sirun B You do realize the big businesses are for net neutrality right?
Sirun B Liberals are for making the world brown and trans. Read their platform
Canada is trying to support American people with this problem. We are lucky we don't have to deal with it but it could affect us though since we visit American sites and much of our traffic is routed through the USA. Our government made a statement urging USA not to go through with it, since it's appalling... Canada is all about an open and free internet, so we are supporting USA citizens as much as possible.
Justin funny how he says he supports the USA but you shit on him anyways...typical american behavior i spose, not shocked.
I'm a US citizen and I want to assure you that we are not all as insanely stupid as the first commenter. The ignorant ones are just the loudest because they don't understand large scale social or political forces so they pick an easy solution that fits their worldview and then attribute all the "bad" things to "cucktastrophes" or some such nonsense. As if being more macho will solve all the worlds problems. So stupid...
I don't even know what to think of Canada, and I live here. On one hand you have them saying that they want a free and open internet because they support free speech, and on the other hand you can be fined for accidentally referring to a transgender person as "he" or "she". The lack of consistency bothers me.
DeRock no just a typical internet troll
nowai90 i know its a lie their dream is then also the nethelands dream.... u can get ritch.. maybe like america XD just work hard and get FUCKED over by our leaders to steal mony and freedom slowly.
( yr 2020)
Guy 1: Hey, what did you get in your Internet lootbox?
Gut 2: i got RUclips!! Im so happy!
Guy 1: Nice, to bad it only lasts 5 videos :S
Remember SOPA?
Those were simpler times...
Flame of Udun Indeed.
Flame of Udun la soap era muy rica. Me encanto el caldo.
I hope you're right, man...
I was only a child
Flame of Udun I don't even know what that is lol
"Ajit Pai is lying through his teeth!" that is an understatement, because, Those castle walls in his frigin mouth are teeth?! They have to be very powerfull lies to go through those things....
Danny Dan I laugh at that big tooth cross eyed look he has on his face. It like he's spaced out when the interview talks.
P.S. Love the profile picture I like that show.
Dan VS Ajit Pai
thats the wall trump was talking about
I miss Dan Vs.
Ajit Pai is next on my punch-able face list.
Ajit is approaching the internet, the internet is losing power.
UBERGEEKZILLA dude 😂😂💀
UBERGEEKZILLA 😂😂😂😂
UBERGEEKZILLA He is a devil, not a man.
As someone living outside of the US is there anything i can actually do to help? Or do i just have to sit here and pray for everyone living in the US?
Was that in English ?
pls translate
I am not sure, you can go to the website
Guys this is no joke! Find petitions! Contact your congressman! Post something on Facebook to raise awareness! WE CANT LOSE THIS FIGHT!
DragonInferno99 Ω well you can always start a revolution. If they censor us on the internet? Go old fashioned paper and pencil, tell everyone that we will be heard and we won't be pushed over by the rich and powerful.
AND WHY TF IS HE SMILING ALL THE DAMN TIME??!!
Synccz so he seems like the good guy when in reality he’s the bad guy
Synccz because he has no soul. Cant you see that. He only cares about money. He sold his soul to the devil for gold.
Synccz creepy right?
Synccz dude lool like a video game character
He's comes from a privileged family and has a privigled life, what's not to smile about...
I hope this goes viral. Everyone needs to see this
So help make it viral by sharing it every where we need to do something about this
2008 I first heard about this idea, almost 10 years later it's going to be introduced. This will suck for everyone. Unbelievable how we are loosing.
This shit pisses me off, although I live in England nowhere is safe, if this passes it's only a matter of time before it goes overseas and watching people suffer with a tv style subscription service will be painful. I hope the best for my overseas brothers and sisters. Keep fighting, I hope you will prevail.
You're right, at least for Britain and Australia, we will follow along...
Portugal already have this.
teajunk1e if this happens I’m moving to England
What do you mean Portugal has this, net neutrality is protected under EU law
I don't blame you. I'd just lean on the side of caution because if they get away with it in America i have a bad feeling that it will not take long to happen in England. That being said it's a protected right here so I am not 100% sure if it will even be allowed to be infringed. Worse has happened though.
god, this is fucking horrible, how are ppl supposed to afford all that shit? we gotta put a stop to their plans, this bill cannot go through, if it does this will be devastating for many ppl, most who have internet will no longer be able to afford it, myself included so i know what i am talking about.
The Gaming Paladin hate to break it to you but as of now they are winning.
This is a very scary thought.
Hope the American people come together to stop this from happening,
fucking liberals and your absolute fear over the smallest of things as if you are all just a bunch of fucking cowards.
Anyone got a gun?
Lets hunt those um......
animals
ADuB GAMING why do you have to make this about politics? It's not, this fucks all of us up the ass and all it benefits is ISPs
Unfortunately we don't get to have a say in this, congress may if they can deem it atrocious and coopershit or whatever the fuck it is (acting off of their emotions and personal benefit instead of a set systen
Ah arbitrary and capricious that's the term
"Even if we loose we have Options. We as Americans have the right to call and give our opinion or votes on what we the people think what's best for the USA 2.The Administrative Procedure Act act bars federal agencies from making "arbitrary and capricious" decisions, in part to prevent federal regulations. 3.Congress also could intervene."
I want to be able to browse Pornhub in peace without having to go to my IPS and tell them I'd like to buy a hardcore pornography package!
Don't fuck this up America!
Neo Genesis amen brother
This will only happen in America right?
Too bad. If you want to Comcast or Verizon to give you access to Pornhub then pay them the market price. Nobody should subsidize your hardcore pornography.
I guess we'll be using DVDs again for these purposes
Omg go AWAAAY we don't need people like you here. Keep that shit to yourself you 🐷
Is Ea fucking shit up again?
vserverin69 ya
lmao
Nah, this time it's internet providers. They'll probably ACT like EA though.
No net neutrality is like the internet, but handled by EA. soo... EA is still concerned here
if anything this will hurt EA
Everyone in the gaming community should’ve been talking about this a long time ago. Battlefront 2 stole the show tho.
jakedizzle it all started with call of duty and its loot boxes and then slowly the plague spread and it will continue to spread
John Lowe tf2-csgo-COD-Overwatch-battlefront or every EA game
A A RON TF2 and CSGO started this, however none of it is pay to win, it’s just that people are stupid enough to pay for items that have a particle effect over them, or have a design texture on their gun. Call of duty and Battlefront II however are pay to fucking win no doubt!
Give the masses entertainment to keep them asleep..
Why do you think EA did what they did? They were bribed by the internet providers to create a fuss so this could go under the radar. There is no other reason why EA would do something this stupid.
Lmao I remember people getting so caught up with the politics in this. Lmao predictably nothing happened of course and we ended up getting faster internet because of it
Fighting for net neutrality is my new holiday tradition... apparently. Those fuckers just won't give up.
Paranoid Bastard neither will *we* give up, even if we lose the battle, we can still win the war!
my name is Peter I'm from Denmark this is not gonna affect me now but if you the people of the United States of America loses this battle this would affect the entire world I cannot do anything from my country but I can ask you to stay in together and do the right thing if not for United States then for the rest of the world this is no joke
Peter From Frøslev Russian bot account.
Peter From Frøslev if the Americans loose this Fight then prices for steam discord etc Will increase to cover expenses in the US
Yeah, well fuck you, Peter
Alacorn I was born and raised in Europe and I still go there it’s beautiful especially Croatia but there is no land better than America that’s why everything that goes on here is not only broadcasted but also copied all over the world baby!!
The way it will affect the world:
- it will send a signal that the free internet isn't free when even the "leaders" of the "free" world won't keep it free.
thanks joe lots people are so badly informed on this we need this for everyone not having nn isnt gonna make it better even if we didnt have it people would NOT be better off
smgofdvld lots of people are badly informed?? It's videos like this that are MISINFORMING the masses! All the things that Joe said would happen if net neutrality was repealed NEVER HAPPENED two years ago before net neutrality became law.
Net Neutrality is a solution to something that was never a problem in the first place.
You can't say the government should regulate the internet and rant and rave that the internet should be free and open at the same time! How fucking stupid are you sheep?!
Net neutrality did not become law, it was the status quo. Net neutrality only kept things the same.
Which means that it's now REALLY suspicious that someone is going "Hey, so I know that it doesn't technically matter whether or not these laws are here, but I want to get rid of them. Even if they're not affecting me right now."
Well either way I can kinda benefit. I have stock invested in Verizon and if net neutrality goes I make money. If it don't I benefit from free internet
smgofdvld. It won’t make it better and it won’t make it worse. Depending on what company you use.
Being Brazilian, all I can do is cheer for all you guys, but if you hear any way i can help, just tell and i spread the word on the way i can,Brazil is with all of you.
kevinpk8 as an American, thanks for all your support.
The pleasure is mine, do not give up I know all of you can reverse this situation, have faith and stay together
So the most important question is: will this ruin internetporn?
Well, I mean, it could. ISPs could slow them down to unusable levels, may charge them so much that all of it becomes subscription based, or ISPs could make you pay for the ability to access those sites. I get that you're almost certainly joking, and internet porn isn't exactly the number one concern for most of us, but the point is that this can influence virtually ever facet of the internet, no matter how large or small, public or private. They can do this to any website they like, and once they have it through they will have the ability to practically shut down any websites that try to help connect opponents of their overreach.
This will make them more money, give them more social and political power, and potentially ruin the internet for many Americans. This isn't a joke, and their only arguments against these allegations are variations of "Well yeah, but we won't." That's why people are so concerned, and that's why we need to fight so hard against this.
yup
Yes. They'd be able to ban it outright because their stockholders wouldn't want to be associated with it.
Yes.
They'll probably throttle connection to them and then offer them to pay extra for increase in speed. They did that before.
I just don't understand why people would dislike this video, even if you dislike AngryJoe himself, Net Neutrality effects EVERYONE.
If you disliked this video, please reconsider yourself as an idiot.
The internet was fine before net neutrality, you fucking moron.
ageisjustthreeletters - well you just showed the whole world what class of person you are, didn't you?
The internet has been in common use since the 90's. We NEVER had the problems Joe is saying would arise if NN is abolished. You guys are the doomsdayers, the burden of proof is on *you* to substantiate your claim that no NN is bad. If you know anything about competition in the market you'd know the less government regulation, the better. Let the consumers regulate the businesses, just like they do with coffee, toilet paper, and computers. It's really not that complicated.
I honestly think you all must be teenagers. Am I right?
2004: Madison River Telephone Company blocked Vonage services because it was competition, unblocked after FCC fined them for violating Network Neutrality rules.
2005: Comcast severely throttled most peer-to-peer sharing services. FCC declared this to be a violation of the N.Neutrality police and had it fixed.
2007-2009: AT&T forced Apple to block skype, and other competing VOIP phone services on the iPhone. Google Voice app recieved similar treatment in 2009.
2010: Windstream Communications admitted to HIJACKING USER SEARCH QUERIES within Firefox's google toolbar, redirecting them to the companies own search portals and results.
2011-2013: Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon cooperated with each other to block Google Wallet, a mobile-payment system that competed with a similar service all 3 had a stake in developing (funny enough, it's name is fucking ISIS). this one in particular shows that "free market" between competitors will NOT keep the shit from hitting the fan.
2012: Verizon was caught by the FCC for blocking the use of tethering apps on their phones. Verizon was even demanding google remove 11 free tethering apps from the market. reason being they were trying to charge $20 fees to use your phone as a tether/wifi hotspot, violating N.Neutrality laws and charging you extra for something you already owned (in essence, selling you a product, then forcing you to pay to unlock said product)
2012: AT&T let only a severely limited amount of their customers use the FaceTime app because they were working on their own program to compete. complaints citing N.Neutrality to the FCC forced them to unlock access.
2016: AT&T and Verizon get into legal disputes because they skirt the "our service is faster while yours will be slower" section of the N.Neutrality by instead making it so "OUR service won't count towards your data cap if used from your home wifi, THEIRS will use up data everywhere".
most damnable: 2013, Verizon v. FCC, judge asked if Verizon would 'favor some preferred services, content, or sites' (the exact thing everyone is afraid of), to which their counsel Helgi Walker answered (on multiple occasions to the question) “I’m authorized to state from my client today that but for these rules we would be exploring those types of arrangements.”
mind that the current suckwad running the FCC was a lawyer for the above company that BLATANTLY admitted to attempt doing what everyone is afraid of them doing.
it's been non-stop "give them an inch, they'll take a fucking mile". the second you get complacent and think "it won't be that bad, we can trust them" is when you get their fist up to their shoulder.
as for "Let the consumers regulate the businesses", kinda hard when the current moguls block, sabotage, and monopolize the entire market. hell, the examples shown display that the "free market" system will fail here because without N.Neutrality as a safety net, they will be free to strangle and smother competition through sheer financial force.
seriously, looking at companies out there, the only one i can see MAYBE fighting back with internet speeds and N.Neutrality freedoms would be Google. most if any other companies don't have the financial power or backing to compete.
I assume they don't dislike the video. In their mind they dislike losing net neutrality. Learn to think stupid ;)
Facebook tried to do this in India. Our country banned it.
Guy from Europe...Joe I am with you we need to stop this bullshit ! Love your show...keep up the fight ! We are with you !
Ajit Pai was voted as "the smile most in need of a baseball bat"
Brofisticus I though no one could have a more punchable face than Ted Cruz. I was wrong.
And he didn’t win?
i Laughed sooooo fucking hard on this XDDDDD
Or how I like to call it "a sly, shit eating grin that needs to get smashed on a curb"
Brofisticus We need Negan
YES JOE! Finally someone huge is talking about net neutrality. Thank you so much for making this video, keep spreading the word. ANGRY ARMY, UNITE!
Markiplier did too n few others besides angry joe
RIGHT WING DEATH SQUADS ASSEMBLE !!!!!!!!!!!! DEFEND THE INTERNET
That RUclips Meme Guy to be fair, quite a bit of huge RUclipsrs have talked about it like Boogie, Markiplier, and I believe Phillip DeFranco has too
now we need biggest RUclipsr celebrity to unite people to fight Net Neutrality!! PEwdipie fanboys assemble!
And Markiplier.
I hope the best for you Americans and Good Luck from Europe!
Thanks. God help us please.
Pulsie Boi thank you I really freaking love Europe dude its so beautiful over there
The sad part is if it passes here most of the world will probably follow suit.... So you will probably be effective eventually
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Pulsie Boi pulse second best roamed followed by ela
Extra paid Internet? Imma bout to Allu Ackbar the shit outta him. Dun fucc wit my net neutrality.
Yeah. Fuck em up joe! This is why I respect your channel so much because not only do u post great gaming vids but you also talk about real problems. Good shit. Angry army for life!!!