Jonathan, do you ever say anything bad? Been watching a long time and you never criticize anything. Hard to take your reviews honestly. Would be nice to see you critique something at least once so it doesn't come off as a paid advertisement.
I was really frustrated too because it was very obvious especially around the AOE part when he said that it was really good and it was obviously crappy AOE and he said the shimming is good but it is once again crap because they use self shimming gears to my knowledge. I think he needs to be more honest and less biased because this video met my very low expectations.
It's nice that vfc upgraded their piston and tappet plate from the crap clear plastic ones, and that they added a mosfet, but I'm not a huge fan of the bearings or autoshimming gears.
Hi, have a question about my sons airsoft gun? He bought a new Avalon calibur 2 DPw and it doesn't want to fire. We to it back to the store we purchased it and the owner said we can't return it because they took the orange tip off. So the first thing was the fuse failed, they replaced it and still don't fire. Tried different batteries no luck, but the battery gets hot when trying to press the trigger. If you can point us in the right direction for solving the problem. Like watching your videos. I'm in Hawaii so not to many stores and there not to experienced in repairing the products they sell. Thanks for any information you can give us 🤙
Hi I get new Avalon replica and I have different mosfet, on smal pcb below trigger. It’s new version ? I bought in Germany where full auto is not allowed, maybe it’s special version because of that ? I’m from Netherlands so I can use full auto but I’m not sure how to “fix”that problem. If is different mechanical selector or maybe that mosfet pcb? Any suggestion ?
Jonathan thank you so much for doing this video. For those of us who aren't experienced techs, this was a very interested and informing video. I really like this video and would love to see more like this made. One I would be particularly interested in would be a video comparing motors like the krytac 30k, shs motor, and some others and see how they compare to one another. Great content. Keep it up.
Here on VFC's Facebook page it mentioned that only the Avalon series will have the mosfet: facebook.com/VegaForceCompany/photos/a.125395630733.141537.125385545733/10154955370350734/ Where did VFC announce anything about the Avalon series being included with an electronic trigger? :o From this video the mosfet appears to only be there to protect the mechanical trigger contacts. It doesn't seem to be an electronic/computerize customizable trigger at all.
Stefan Bittner I think VFC mentioned on their Facebook page that these new gearboxes will work on their older models. They also mentioned that the gearbox might be for sale separately. I'll send a link in a bit.
Hey Johnathan, planning on getting a DMR (Lancer tactical L 14TA M4 15" keymod) but can't find the bravo short dot that you made a video of earlier, can you help me out? Thanks in advance.
there was no mention of the trigger switch instead of your usual contacts. and ive also seen no mention of it in many retailers. only on the vfc page itself.
I'm considering a Maxx hop-up unit for my Avalon Leopard. I will look up which model i need, but i've researched some of the work and fitting that goes into it. I need to know if my air nozzle will work with the new hop-up, and how long the nozzle is. I can't seem to find any info on this. Do you know?
Thank you Jonathan! I've been waiting for a video like this. Could you also do a breakdown of the G&G G2 gearbox and let us know which one has the edge?
Neil Schluter That would be great to also see a breakdown on the G&G G2 and any other new gearbox releases in the future! By the way, has the G2 system even been released yet?
The gear that you first showed for the anti reversal latch...the motor on my gun stripped about 6 teeth on that gear on my second day ever using this gun. The one year warranty doesn’t mean you’ll get a new gun...just the part that broke haha I’m pretty bummed about it. I was using the recommended 9.6 battery, but I guess it was too much for the gear. Hopefully they send me my parts soon!
@@fubene5495 idk why people keep thinking that i have yet to see this happen to any vfc avalons. and im running a dsg on mine and it seems to be fine >
I have a problem with mine, but I'm not sure what is it? The problem is As I connect the battery it starts shooting on full auto without pulling the trigger and the wire's they get heat up... what could be the reasons for this.? Any suggestions? Thanks
john nara I’m not entirely sure but it could be that you are using a top high of a voltage. My gun uses a 11.1volt Lipo battery which is the maximum voltage that you can get. My gun costs about 480 euros which makes it able to handle that voltage. But a cheaper gun of mine shoots twice every time I pull the trigger when there is a 11.1v battery in there. I would just look up your gun if I were you but I’d say that you should get a 9.6v battery or maybe even lower. (9.6 is still quite high tho). When you have a too high voltage your wires can get really hot because they are not meant for such high voltages but mine can get a little warm too but not really hot.
I know you may not see this but, what would be a good motor to upgrade to for better snapynes and higher ROF. I am pretty new to internals so any help would be nice.
you need to go beyond just a motor. You need HS gears, light piston, weaker spring (m85/90 - M100), possibly shorter barrel, and seal up those air leaks!! you need to think in terms of this as a whole system. 1 part upgraded can bring the whole system down if you dont consider all of the component in the system as a whole.
Airsoftology, I love the channel but I had a quick question: do you know if a Lancer Tactical Multi Mission Carbine can handle prolonged use of an 11.1V lipo battery without too much more wear than if I use a 9.6 NiMH? An answer would be greatly appreciated.
He'll never anwser... If I can help a little: if you want to run a 11.1V battery, something you should at least do is fix the angle of engagement (AoE). Other good things to do (but not limited to) are : re-shim bevel to pinion, radius the gearbox shell, re-grease, install a MOSFET or computerized trigger, e.g. Since running a 11.1V will get you a faster cycle rate, you might ran into the problem of overspin and/or per-engagement. To remedy this problem, one of the things you can do is run a stiffer spring. If you need to stay below a certain FPS, you can short-stroke the gears. So long story short, you can run a 11.1V on a stock setup but the faster RPM may cause a part like the piston to give out faster. That can be said for any setup but a properly tuned one will last longer while running a 11.1V battery. If you're not comfortable enough to make the above mentioned upgrades/tune-ups, you can have a tech do so. If you're not willing to do that either, sticking with a 7.4V LiPo might be a better idea. I hope I was of some help. Keep in mind this isn't a comprehensive guide on the tune-ups that are recommended for running a 11.1V battery. Places like Airsoft Society can be a lot of help.
Hi Jonathan, I am quite new to airsoft and have been binge watching your episodes over the past week or so. Admittedly I have a slight case of severe information overload (or slight case of severe brain damage if you're a Portal 2 fan :) )...in any case, I just ordered a VFC VR16 Saber M-Lok Carbine and wanted to get your opinion on it as far as it being a decent first airsoft rifle. It seems a couple of your latest videos (including this one) relate to this rifle or its components and, after handling the tan version of this, I was immediately impressed (except for the horrid tan color which is why I ordered the black one). Any thoughts you have on this model as a first weapon and any suggestions on what changes to it you would recommend are greatly appreciated! Thank you for the informative videos and keep up the good work brother.
externals are ok, mostly pretty standard M4 stuff, with a few non-essential extras- ambi selector, finger rest, lightning blade trigger (which i hate), functioning bolt catch. The internals leave a bit to be desired..be prepared to replace and upgrade. see my review above.
Hi everyone. I am somewhat experienced but not much, for ex I shimmed my own gearbox, but one thing I never understood, why would it be bad if the gearbox would reverse. I never dared to put together my gearbox without the anti-reversal latch because who knows what would happen, maybe the universe would implode :P but I'm curious, anyone knows? Anyone has experience?
The ar latch does stop you from running it in reverse, but it's true purpose is to prevent the main spring from driving the geartrain in reverse if the trigger is let go early. Geartrain running in reverse can break off the tappet fin from the nub pushing it forward. If electrically driven, it can and probably will break your pickup tooth off
You would strip your piston and gears because instead of finishing the cycle and going forward you would finish the cycle and get stuck and then keep spinning and strip your stuff (this would also require you to wire your motor up backward using everything including the motor to spin backward). The reason the ARL is there is to prevent backspin which would strip your piston because if you noticed in the video a bit of the piston was sticking out so that would get slowly grinder away (you gun also would not cycle). I've never done any of this to my gun I'm only going off what I think would happen based off my experience with gearboxes. Also I think I saw a write up on this topic somewhere. Hope this explains it.
Can someone please answer this for me. Are the VFC Avalon Calibur and Calibur CQC gearboxes the exact same and the only reason FPS is different is because of inner barrel? Is this correct? Or are the cylinders and gears diff?
The first comment is completely incorrect, no VFC guns (even older models) have plastic gears. Internally identical. FPS is only different because of barrel length. This should be the same internals for all of the Avalon series.
Hey jonathan! love the videos but I was wondering what gun platform you would recommend for outdoor fields with 400fps limits? And maybe a scope to top that off. Thanks!
there is a clutch inside them.. so no. wouldnt recommend winding excessively, but if you wind it just a couple times more than you need too, youll be fine.
there is a clutch inside them.. so no. wouldnt recommend winding excessively, but if you wind it just a couple times more than you need too, youll be fine.
Hey Jonathan, I'm looking to buy a battlebelt. I was wondering if there are any you recommend or any you would avoid? What do you use in your typical loadout? Much love from Ireland :D
Hey John I have plenty of guns and gear I would like sell for investing in new guns and gear. Is there somewhere specific that you recommend to sell used airsoft gear? Also why does airsoft gear lose value so quick. Many people offer my less than half of what I originally paid. Long time fan! Thank you
In terms of dimensions, the gearbox is a standard V2 gearbox that should be interchangeable with other VFC receivers + other brands. In terms of the internals, the Avalon internals looks to be great. We'll have to see how well some parts like the MOSFET will hold up.
@totiksilkway: Yup, VFC mentioned on their Facebook page that these new Avalon gearboxes will work on their older model's receivers. They also mentioned that the gearbox might be for sale separately. Here's a link to the source: facebook.com/VegaForceCompany/photos/a.125395630733.141537.125385545733/10154955370350734
I have the Avalon Saber CQB myself, had some fun gameplay with it thus far! Do you know if it has a Maple Leaf barrel like I've heard? I'm in Hong Kong
He didn't use a good technique in the video. I'd have the gearbox lie on it's side on a table and simply hold it in place with my right hand while handling the spring and spring guide with my left hand.
Tyler Mohning is it the Avalon or standard ar16? Also maybe the store where you bought it only had this version in stock and will get the newest version eventually.
It is the Avalon cqb. I live in Germany and bought it from sniper-as.de. I have had nothing but problems with the internals so far. Tappet plate broke within the first 3 mags. The tamiya connecter just fell off. The motor died. The hop up unit broke. the trigger didn`t fit correctly and would just lock up completely like the safety was on and it wasn`t etc etc etc. Really dissapointing. It is my first aeg too. On the plus side I learned how to repair everyting lol.
Don't waste money for an European version if you can have basically the same thing in the US. Also you may need the orange tip depending in which state you live so one more reason to go with the American version.
Metal piston heads are just pointless, I hate them, same goes for bearings in the piston head, both just add weight to the piston assembly and put more stress on the front of the gearbox. A plastic piston head with a washer and nut is the most efficient solution, if this gearbox had that it would be a perfect stock gearbox. 👍
Does anyone know an airsoft distributor that sells primarily gearboxes? My Russian PPSH 41 has been damaged and I was wondering if there's a store that can help me so I don't have to re-buy the same gun! :(
VFC internals aren't good enough. Very standard gears - with high ROF and strong motor brakes like a matches. Tappet plate also like to break. Pneumatic system is 6/10. Overall nothing special.
i REALLY dont understand why VFC used ball bearings in a high stress gun instead of solid bushings. Its a known fact that ball bearings dont hold up as well. Even Valken only uses ball bearings on their similar model for the bevel gear only.
man, you rant about how the gears are so fantastically thicker than standard gears when really, they're just run of the mill gears, you commend the shimming job without actually testing it, you rant about a $30 MOSFET that's infamous for burning out, that aoe was CLEARLY horrible, you really try to stretch the fact that the gearbox isn't radiused AT ALL, yet you keep insisting it has a tiny bit of hard-to-see roundness (in case you know, that's called NOT RADIUSED), not to include the weird details about how you saw how much grease they use and how the American trigger has a lightning bolt on it, man, you make me wonder how much you really lie about just to get that sponsorship money. we need honest reviews.
I just mean most stock AEG's are not properly shimed cheap parts and the angle of Engagement is not corrected properly.. not all of them and this one seems a little better than most and krytac does a good job as well
Jonathan, do you ever say anything bad? Been watching a long time and you never criticize anything. Hard to take your reviews honestly. Would be nice to see you critique something at least once so it doesn't come off as a paid advertisement.
but it was a paid advertisement XD
Oh I know, haha. Just wish it wasn't so obvious. Like to see some honest reviews. Good and bad. Nothing is perfect.
Rudd the KWA Makarov was litterally called the worst pistol by him XP
Answer is simple, he just don't review a sh*t xD
I was really frustrated too because it was very obvious especially around the AOE part when he said that it was really good and it was obviously crappy AOE and he said the shimming is good but it is once again crap because they use self shimming gears to my knowledge. I think he needs to be more honest and less biased because this video met my very low expectations.
Is this Gear Box better than the Krytac Mk2?
It's nice that vfc upgraded their piston and tappet plate from the crap clear plastic ones, and that they added a mosfet, but I'm not a huge fan of the bearings or autoshimming gears.
see my review, the piston and tappet are crap!
Hi, have a question about my sons airsoft gun? He bought a new Avalon calibur 2 DPw and it doesn't want to fire. We to it back to the store we purchased it and the owner said we can't return it because they took the orange tip off. So the first thing was the fuse failed, they replaced it and still don't fire. Tried different batteries no luck, but the battery gets hot when trying to press the trigger. If you can point us in the right direction for solving the problem. Like watching your videos. I'm in Hawaii so not to many stores and there not to experienced in repairing the products they sell. Thanks for any information you can give us 🤙
Hi
I get new Avalon replica and I have different mosfet, on smal pcb below trigger. It’s new version ? I bought in Germany where full auto is not allowed, maybe it’s special version because of that ?
I’m from Netherlands so I can use full auto but I’m not sure how to “fix”that problem. If is different mechanical selector or maybe that mosfet pcb? Any suggestion ?
Jonathan thank you so much for doing this video. For those of us who aren't experienced techs, this was a very interested and informing video. I really like this video and would love to see more like this made. One I would be particularly interested in would be a video comparing motors like the krytac 30k, shs motor, and some others and see how they compare to one another. Great content. Keep it up.
I highly recommend TheAirsoftTech! :)
The avalon parts (like mosfet and electronic trigger) are present in all new vfc model? (Like in the new vr16 daniel defence)
Here on VFC's Facebook page it mentioned that only the Avalon series will have the mosfet: facebook.com/VegaForceCompany/photos/a.125395630733.141537.125385545733/10154955370350734/
Where did VFC announce anything about the Avalon series being included with an electronic trigger? :o From this video the mosfet appears to only be there to protect the mechanical trigger contacts. It doesn't seem to be an electronic/computerize customizable trigger at all.
Jonathan, you truly are the king of kings.
Can the originals gears pull without problems a m120 /130 (obv with others upgrades in the gb) i want only know the durability of the gears
Is this gear is better then the krytec trident or lvoa c? Can’t decide what to buy ,want a gun ready out of the box ,without needing for upgrades
Will this gearbox fit and work in a g&g cm16 srl
I really like this sort of "tech video" keep it up
Kind of curious whether the new VFC mechboxes with the QC spring will fit in an older model (have a 2014 model 416D)?
Stefan Bittner
I think VFC mentioned on their Facebook page that these new gearboxes will work on their older models. They also mentioned that the gearbox might be for sale separately. I'll send a link in a bit.
Here's the link concerning my pevious comment: facebook.com/VegaForceCompany/photos/a.125395630733.141537.125385545733/10154955370350734
Hey Johnathan, planning on getting a DMR (Lancer tactical L 14TA M4 15" keymod) but can't find the bravo short dot that you made a video of earlier, can you help me out? Thanks in advance.
there was no mention of the trigger switch instead of your usual contacts. and ive also seen no mention of it in many retailers. only on the vfc page itself.
Does the standard VR16 share the same specs in the gearbox as the Avalon series? Want to get the vr16 sopmod cqbr which is the classic looking m4
I'm considering a Maxx hop-up unit for my Avalon Leopard. I will look up which model i need, but i've researched some of the work and fitting that goes into it. I need to know if my air nozzle will work with the new hop-up, and how long the nozzle is. I can't seem to find any info on this. Do you know?
Smooth recovery at 12:20 lmao
is gearbox vfc enhanced? can you use for a Dmr build with m130 springs? And for a high rof assault?
The aoe should is off sector gear should be a 12 on first tooth so get some pads to push piston back will help gun function and last longer
Jonathan, can you show how to change the selector plate as to upgrade an SAEG to a full AEG - thx
Thank you Jonathan! I've been waiting for a video like this. Could you also do a breakdown of the G&G G2 gearbox and let us know which one has the edge?
Neil Schluter
That would be great to also see a breakdown on the G&G G2 and any other new gearbox releases in the future! By the way, has the G2 system even been released yet?
I do not know if you mention it, but what can you tell mee about the gears is it standard or high speed gearset.
they are standard 18:1
Are the cylinders on the CQB and full length versions the same?
Sam G found out that the full length has a slower RPS
I really liked that tech video. You should do some more sometimes ;)
Can u modify the mosfet so your full auto can do bursts instead or adjust rof?
Quality review Higgs. Amber and I just picked up two of these from Jon H. at Airsoft Barracks. They arrive tomorrow. Can't wait to run them.
Thank you I been looking for a video on this for ever seems like
Is the cylinder the same type on the different versions?
Haw do you put out the buttstock?
The gear that you first showed for the anti reversal latch...the motor on my gun stripped about 6 teeth on that gear on my second day ever using this gun. The one year warranty doesn’t mean you’ll get a new gun...just the part that broke haha I’m pretty bummed about it. I was using the recommended 9.6 battery, but I guess it was too much for the gear. Hopefully they send me my parts soon!
justin souza i think its probably a lemon gear or your motor height was set too low
@@claudekim7876 Its not a lemon, its standar VFC behaviour.
@@fubene5495 idk why people keep thinking that i have yet to see this happen to any vfc avalons. and im running a dsg on mine and it seems to be fine >
Is this the same gearbox as the VFC SR16? Easy Change spring?
Hey does anyone know what size air nozzle it has
Wanted to say hi from NYC. Big fan and lover of airsoft. You do Great Work. Keep up the good work.
I have a problem with mine, but I'm not sure what is it? The problem is As I connect the battery it starts shooting on full auto without pulling the trigger and the wire's they get heat up... what could be the reasons for this.? Any suggestions? Thanks
john nara I’m not entirely sure but it could be that you are using a top high of a voltage. My gun uses a 11.1volt Lipo battery which is the maximum voltage that you can get. My gun costs about 480 euros which makes it able to handle that voltage. But a cheaper gun of mine shoots twice every time I pull the trigger when there is a 11.1v battery in there. I would just look up your gun if I were you but I’d say that you should get a 9.6v battery or maybe even lower. (9.6 is still quite high tho). When you have a too high voltage your wires can get really hot because they are not meant for such high voltages but mine can get a little warm too but not really hot.
I know you may not see this but, what would be a good motor to upgrade to for better snapynes and higher ROF. I am pretty new to internals so any help would be nice.
you need to go beyond just a motor. You need HS gears, light piston, weaker spring (m85/90 - M100), possibly shorter barrel, and seal up those air leaks!! you need to think in terms of this as a whole system. 1 part upgraded can bring the whole system down if you dont consider all of the component in the system as a whole.
Airsoftology, I love the channel but I had a quick question: do you know if a Lancer Tactical Multi Mission Carbine can handle prolonged use of an 11.1V lipo battery without too much more wear than if I use a 9.6 NiMH? An answer would be greatly appreciated.
He'll never anwser...
If I can help a little: if you want to run a 11.1V battery, something you should at least do is fix the angle of engagement (AoE). Other good things to do (but not limited to) are : re-shim bevel to pinion, radius the gearbox shell, re-grease, install a MOSFET or computerized trigger, e.g.
Since running a 11.1V will get you a faster cycle rate, you might ran into the problem of overspin and/or per-engagement. To remedy this problem, one of the things you can do is run a stiffer spring. If you need to stay below a certain FPS, you can short-stroke the gears.
So long story short, you can run a 11.1V on a stock setup but the faster RPM may cause a part like the piston to give out faster. That can be said for any setup but a properly tuned one will last longer while running a 11.1V battery. If you're not comfortable enough to make the above mentioned upgrades/tune-ups, you can have a tech do so. If you're not willing to do that either, sticking with a 7.4V LiPo might be a better idea.
I hope I was of some help. Keep in mind this isn't a comprehensive guide on the tune-ups that are recommended for running a 11.1V battery. Places like Airsoft Society can be a lot of help.
Thanks! What I'm understanding is that most of the time a stock gun is going to want at least a optimization before using a 11.1?
Best video!!! You finally took yourself out the shot and showed product!!! Clap clap clap... good stuff buddy keep it up... lol stay out the shot.
Hi Jonathan, I am quite new to airsoft and have been binge watching your episodes over the past week or so. Admittedly I have a slight case of severe information overload (or slight case of severe brain damage if you're a Portal 2 fan :) )...in any case, I just ordered a VFC VR16 Saber M-Lok Carbine and wanted to get your opinion on it as far as it being a decent first airsoft rifle. It seems a couple of your latest videos (including this one) relate to this rifle or its components and, after handling the tan version of this, I was immediately impressed (except for the horrid tan color which is why I ordered the black one). Any thoughts you have on this model as a first weapon and any suggestions on what changes to it you would recommend are greatly appreciated! Thank you for the informative videos and keep up the good work brother.
I assume u have already recieved the gun so would u reccomend it to a beginner. Hope youtube notifications work.
externals are ok, mostly pretty standard M4 stuff, with a few non-essential extras- ambi selector, finger rest, lightning blade trigger (which i hate), functioning bolt catch. The internals leave a bit to be desired..be prepared to replace and upgrade. see my review above.
Were there shims on the gears, I couldn't see any?? Also they should have used a one piece cylinder.
Julian Cuevas uses an autoshim spring on the spur gear. Other than that not that many shims
Thanks for the video, can't wait to see more on this gun.
hey Jonathan! did vfc beef up that trigger trolley post like kwa? couldn't tell by the video.. thanks
can i upgrade the internals with an M 140 spring without damaging other components like the cylinder or gears?
you'll need a high torque motor too. keep in mind- higher spring, higher torque motor - less ROF.
Which one is better the krytac lovable or vfc avalon vr 16
What is the class of the stock spring for the US saber versions? I think it will be an m110 or 120? Just want confirmation.
the one i got is barely an M100- pretty flimsy actually.
Where can I buy this gearbox without the rest of the gun?
also why not a programmable EFS instead of simple mosfet? the cost isnt that much higher for a programmable unit.
Got problems to get the gearbox out of the case
I need some help.
Hi everyone. I am somewhat experienced but not much, for ex I shimmed my own gearbox, but one thing I never understood, why would it be bad if the gearbox would reverse. I never dared to put together my gearbox without the anti-reversal latch because who knows what would happen, maybe the universe would implode :P but I'm curious, anyone knows? Anyone has experience?
The ar latch does stop you from running it in reverse, but it's true purpose is to prevent the main spring from driving the geartrain in reverse if the trigger is let go early. Geartrain running in reverse can break off the tappet fin from the nub pushing it forward. If electrically driven, it can and probably will break your pickup tooth off
Ah, all right, thank you. I guess that would happen a lot in full auto.
You would strip your piston and gears because instead of finishing the cycle and going forward you would finish the cycle and get stuck and then keep spinning and strip your stuff (this would also require you to wire your motor up backward using everything including the motor to spin backward). The reason the ARL is there is to prevent backspin which would strip your piston because if you noticed in the video a bit of the piston was sticking out so that would get slowly grinder away (you gun also would not cycle). I've never done any of this to my gun I'm only going off what I think would happen based off my experience with gearboxes. Also I think I saw a write up on this topic somewhere. Hope this explains it.
G&G Predator or Krytac LVOA C? any thoughts?
Can someone please answer this for me. Are the VFC Avalon Calibur and Calibur CQC gearboxes the exact same and the only reason FPS is different is because of inner barrel? Is this correct? Or are the cylinders and gears diff?
Vadim the cqb model uses plastic gears instead of metal
The first comment is completely incorrect, no VFC guns (even older models) have plastic gears. Internally identical. FPS is only different because of barrel length. This should be the same internals for all of the Avalon series.
Which gearbox is better? Krytac trident mk2 gearbox or vfc avalon gearbox?
Both are good but I'm leaning towards avalin
please make a video about the hades arrow mortar
Does anyone know what mid cap mag works best for VFC M4s? I'm having trouble finding one.
Khoa Tran I have a VFC 416 and use Elite Force 140rd midcaps. If you wanna spend some money, PTS EPMs will fit great.
Brandon Wilson thanks man
Evike BAMF are always amazing
Hey jonathan! love the videos but I was wondering what gun platform you would recommend for outdoor fields with 400fps limits? And maybe a scope to top that off. Thanks!
the rippin', n the tearin'
tear into it Jonathan...tear into it
Will it hurt my mag if I wind it up too much?
there is a clutch inside them.. so no. wouldnt recommend winding excessively, but if you wind it just a couple times more than you need too, youll be fine.
there is a clutch inside them.. so no. wouldnt recommend winding excessively, but if you wind it just a couple times more than you need too, youll be fine.
Is the Krytac LVOA-C worth the money?
No
+Eric Torres
Why?
+Jon Brinkley its okay
Hey Jonathan, I'm looking to buy a battlebelt. I was wondering if there are any you recommend or any you would avoid? What do you use in your typical loadout?
Much love from Ireland :D
Is this the same ECS Gearbox?
I hope and pray they release the gearbox by itself
Hey John I have plenty of guns and gear I would like sell for investing in new guns and gear. Is there somewhere specific that you recommend to sell used airsoft gear? Also why does airsoft gear lose value so quick. Many people offer my less than half of what I originally paid. Long time fan! Thank you
r/airsoftmarket is good. There's also Airsoft Society.
what motor comes in the vfc?
Ashton Veemer high torque 30k rpm
Its actually a very good motor! Very strong neo-magnets
I wonder if this mechbox is very different from 416?
totiksilkway yes and no
In terms of dimensions, the gearbox is a standard V2 gearbox that should be interchangeable with other VFC receivers + other brands.
In terms of the internals, the Avalon internals looks to be great. We'll have to see how well some parts like the MOSFET will hold up.
That's basically what I wanted to know, if one can just get Avalon gearbox and put it in 416 so u have great parts in one package
@totiksilkway:
Yup, VFC mentioned on their Facebook page that these new Avalon gearboxes will work on their older model's receivers. They also mentioned that the gearbox might be for sale separately. Here's a link to the source: facebook.com/VegaForceCompany/photos/a.125395630733.141537.125385545733/10154955370350734
Thanks 👍🏻
What kind of gears does this gun have?
Elias Totoli 16:1
claude kim are you super sure it’s those kind of gears?
Elias Totoli idk thats what others say.. why does it matter tho? It only changes the rps.
Took me the entire first minute to realize the music wasn't coming from my computer...
I really want to know the gear ratio of vr16.
16 tooth
I have the Avalon Saber CQB myself, had some fun gameplay with it thus far! Do you know if it has a Maple Leaf barrel like I've heard? I'm in Hong Kong
I see alot of broken nozzles with the quick change spring
NOIR. Milsim how would a nozzle break because of the qc spring?????
Just with the position of the gearbox with spring changes. When forcing a spring in I could see you putting stress on the nozzle.
He didn't use a good technique in the video. I'd have the gearbox lie on it's side on a table and simply hold it in place with my right hand while handling the spring and spring guide with my left hand.
what size battery are you running in the VFC avalon? can it handle an 11.1 lipo?
I have the model year before the avalon and it handles a 11.1 very well without a mosfet. The avalon will work great with it.
I have a european avalon series and it does not have a quick change spring. It also has a full plastic piston. WTF VFC!
Tyler Mohning Perhaps you have an older version?
I guess so. I have only had it for like a month though.
Tyler Mohning is it the Avalon or standard ar16? Also maybe the store where you bought it only had this version in stock and will get the newest version eventually.
It is the Avalon cqb. I live in Germany and bought it from sniper-as.de. I have had nothing but problems with the internals so far. Tappet plate broke within the first 3 mags. The tamiya connecter just fell off. The motor died. The hop up unit broke. the trigger didn`t fit correctly and would just lock up completely like the safety was on and it wasn`t etc etc etc. Really dissapointing. It is my first aeg too. On the plus side I learned how to repair everyting lol.
Great review!
unrelated question: anyone know what watch that is?
will putting a BTC Spectre MK2 Mosfet in it will be good or just pointless? just wondering. :)
The one thing is that if the titan mosfet will work with the trigger
how do i get the European version if i live in America
Mark Melton Why do you want the Europen version? You can surf the web for retailers that ship to America, but I can assure you it won't be cheap.
Mark Melton might as well just change the trigger and you got an European version lol
Ok thanks do you just recommend getting the American version
Haha you are absolutely right
Don't waste money for an European version if you can have basically the same thing in the US. Also you may need the orange tip depending in which state you live so one more reason to go with the American version.
I got the same gearbox but my cylinder is red
Get a krytac hop up bucking for £8 and it'll perform better than an out of the box krytac AEG.
Replace tappet motor and gears like all vfc guns
BIG sic its the new vfc. Its on par with the krytech
Metal piston heads are just pointless, I hate them, same goes for bearings in the piston head, both just add weight to the piston assembly and put more stress on the front of the gearbox.
A plastic piston head with a washer and nut is the most efficient solution, if this gearbox had that it would be a perfect stock gearbox. 👍
Double o ring cylinder head, radius, sorbo
Does anyone know an airsoft distributor that sells primarily gearboxes? My Russian PPSH 41 has been damaged and I was wondering if there's a store that can help me so I don't have to re-buy the same gun! :(
What would be your Airsoft theme song?
kind of like if it had a ETU in it,
AOE would be better at 12 o'clock position
I always think it’s funny that vfc patented a part when they knocked off a whole gearbox design from Tokyo Marui
My cylinder is red..
Matronelio75 thats the asian market version ie the best one you can get
Yup, same. It's just the Asian spec. And I agree, has best internals. Newest updates, and a Maple Leaf barrel and bucking from the factory
claude kim whooooooosh
@@ethanstrunk2791 what????
Do you know what wooosh means?
VFC internals aren't good enough. Very standard gears - with high ROF and strong motor brakes like a matches. Tappet plate also like to break. Pneumatic system is 6/10. Overall nothing special.
I agree, nothing especially good, but a lot especially bad...see my first hand review above.
Nothing said about the motor.....
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hi Jonathan! Iam just curious. Do you like Balto? Haha just a silly question. 🤣
i REALLY dont understand why VFC used ball bearings in a high stress gun instead of solid bushings. Its a known fact that ball bearings dont hold up as well. Even Valken only uses ball bearings on their similar model for the bevel gear only.
man, you rant about how the gears are so fantastically thicker than standard gears when really, they're just run of the mill gears, you commend the shimming job without actually testing it, you rant about a $30 MOSFET that's infamous for burning out, that aoe was CLEARLY horrible, you really try to stretch the fact that the gearbox isn't radiused AT ALL, yet you keep insisting it has a tiny bit of hard-to-see roundness (in case you know, that's called NOT RADIUSED), not to include the weird details about how you saw how much grease they use and how the American trigger has a lightning bolt on it, man, you make me wonder how much you really lie about just to get that sponsorship money. we need honest reviews.
stock AEG's are worthless!
Saint BEAST eh only if the hop up doesn't work or there is no compression.
I just mean most stock AEG's are not properly shimed cheap parts and the angle of Engagement is not corrected properly.. not all of them and this one seems a little better than most and krytac does a good job as well
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