Jokes aside, trying to tell someone's entire life story in the span of 2 hours is almost impossible. That's one mistake I always see with these musician biopics: Trying to cram too much story into too little of a timeframe. You can't tell the entire history of Queen and Freddie Mercury in 2 hours. You just can't. These biopics would work so much better if they were just a snapshot of a certain period in the artist's story. For example: If a Metallica biopic ever happened, you can easily make a 2-hour movie that only follows them from their formation up until the release of Kill 'Em All. There's so much you can cover in that time period, like Lars promising Brian Slagel a song for his album even though he didn't have a band yet, discovering Cliff Burton at a Trauma gig, hiring Dave Mustaine, firing Dave Mustaine, discovering Kirk, James losing his mom, etc. And it would make for a very focused story that doesn't feel like a rushed highlight reel. Trying to rush through an entire band/artist's history in only 120-150 minutes worth of screentime feels vapid and rarely ever works.
This is a wonderful example, and I've been saying it for ages - either make a miniseries or focus on a specific era. I also think it would be more creative to emphasise themes in a story; a primary theme in Rocketman is Elton's struggle with self-identity, for instance.
Love & Mercy is an amazing movie (it's about Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys) and so is Control (which is about Joy Division's Ian Curtis). Both films tackle their respective stories tastefully and bluntly. Not much in the way of hollywood musician biopic schlock... though both tug at your heart strings with the very real pain of the films' subjects and those around them.
I completely agree. If it's a comedy like the Pick of Destiny then it works since Jack Black is a comedian and can play into the stereotypes of the rock and metal genre. However, the issue is with these Biopics is that it's a bunch board room executives creating the exact template without doing much research on the musicians personal lives.
Pick Of Destiny is also like Weird The Al Yankovic Story in the sense that its not truly a biopic but it occassionally pretends to be. Its a comedy first and foremost.
I disagree about Lords of Chaos. The accuracy was not the point, because it was stated right off the bat that it was based "on truth and lies". I see it allegory about "edgy" humour and how courting with hateful ideologies WILL come back to bite you in the arse. Hell, at one point in the film Varg complains about "Posers sitting around and drinking beer", so the camera IMMEDATELY cuts to everyone in the room doing just that. The characters in that movie were never meant to be 1:1 to real life, but rather to show what happens when edgelords start taking themselves to seriously. It's holding up a mirror to the metal elitists who can never live up to their own lofty standards. Euronomous was never evil. He wanted the image in order to get noticed, and in the end, he took things too far by going along with Varg's very real hate crusade. The ending of the film re-contextualises several earlier scenes to show that, in the end, he was as human as the rest of us. No, Varg didn't literally sit around making Chocolate Milk while letting Euronomous blead out. But the scene does represent how completely unempathetic and callous he was. He is the real evil, while Euronomous and Co were always "Villains in Name Only". In short, I see Lords of Chaos as less of a biopic and more a historical drama. It's loosely based off true events, but serves a bigger purpose through its fictional elements as metal commentary.
After watching Bohemian Rhapsody, I am convinced the other members of Queen hate Freddie Mercury. They make it looks like all of the band’s problems were his fault. I hope there is never a John Lennon bio pic. It would probably leave out how abusive and neglectful he was to his first wife and son. Or it would show it, and upset the fans that didn’t know about it.
There will be. Infact there are plans in place for biopics for all 4 members of The Beatles and THEN a movie about The Beatles lmao, see for yourself www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/beatles-biopics-sam-mendes-1234979923/
I think a Chuck Schuldiner biopic would be awesome. However A) It wouldn't make any money because only metalheads would care, and B) Whoever made it would probably find some way to fuck it up
The Elton John biopic Rocketman isn't safe from biopic cliches either, but I have to say that I loved that film. It was a genius idea to make it a musical.
I adore that film. Definitely my favorite biopic of the last decade. And yes, making it a musical worked so well. Rocketman should have won way more awards than Bohemian Rhapsody. Plus the lead actor actually sang the songs.
Another biopic not mentioned was Hysteria : The Def Leppard Story. That tells the story of the band up to the Hysteria album era. I own it on DVD. I read the band didn't like that they focused too much on the bad shit they went through. Like with Rick Allen's car crash and arm loss and guitarist Steve Clark's alchohol problems.
What did you think of Love And Mercy, the one about Brian Wilson? I loved it myself but I'm curious of your thoughts on it. I think it fits in that innovative/creative category with its split between 1966-67 and 1988-89
I do like some biopic films on musicians or bands or actors, but most of the time, some are not on point through the actual stories. It's very rare and difficult to get everything right. Love and Mercy is one of my favourites when it comes to portrayal and emotions. Brian Wilson praised the film despite the mental health parts were difficult for him to see as he went through a lot from his life. That's another thing that filmmakers have to be careful and mindful to work on films involving that subject matter. I thought it was brilliant as I'm a Beach Boys fan and I prefer it over Bohemian Rhapsody. Also, on Walk The Line the filmmakers had to ask Johnny Cash and his wife with permission to approve it and they accepted it. I would get picky when it comes to a biopic film if it sounds good or not.
I was glad lords of chaos was done the way it was done. I really truthfully couldn’t care less how the norsecore scene of the second wave of black metal is represented considering the majority of people in that scene were garbage people. Varg euronymous especially
My Dad had a copy of Pink Floyd's "The Wall" on VHS when I was in High School. I used to steal it and bring it to friends' places so that we could smoke a joint and watch it late at night. To the point that older dudes would get me high and let me hang out as long as I brought That Movie :) I always had to return it though. After over a year, he noticed that his VHS had a little more wear and tear on it. So he eventually got it on DVD, because that version had extras he had never seen before :)
It might be the movie I've seen the most times in my life. Haven't watched it in AGES now because it is such a trip. Check out this stage show they did, in Berlin, shortly after The Wall, if you haven't. Cyndi Lauper kills it: ruclips.net/video/2VGyEwq8ums/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Ooohhh wait, copyright infringements and such. But if you can find a solid copy of that Live Show, it's pretty dang incredible. Anyways, enjoy your day!
I think a Black Sabbath movie could be cool, a movie detailing the influence and start of metal as a genre. would be kind of tricky to do though since Sharon would probably have final say how the movie turns out. Also a movie about Chuck Schuldiner would be great too.
@@themetalmeltdownofficial that's fair. I'd just like to see a movie chronicle the beginnings of a genre made by people who have a love and understanding of that genre, the culture, and it's impact.
More important question, why do you have a leather cowboy hat? I was going to say an exception is Rush - Beyond the Lighted Stage (2010) but then had my coffee and realized you're talking about semi-fictionalized/dramatized treatments with actors. I'd have to think about it regarding which don't follow the cliched script, but then no one probably watches them. Which is why no one is probably itching to do one on Fugazi. Yeah the Queen one sucked, but it seems to be the main way to revive interest in mainstream audiences to listen to these bands. Would it be possible for a Black Sabbath biopic not to follow the cliche, since they kind of invented it? An interesting challenge perhaps.
1) Because Mrs Meltdown likes it and its cool as shit lmao 2) Thats honestly not a great example of an exception because its not a biopic, its a documentary. Great movie though, BANGER rarely misses.
Any movie that just uses women as props leaves me cold, whatever the genre. A terrific antidote to rock biopics, since we're cheating at the end here, is DAVID BOWIE'S Moonage Daydream. No actors, no script, no tropes, just an iconic life in rock epically portrayed. And I know it's a concert doc, but its produced like a biopic.
On the DL, this movie was purposely engineered to be a profound psychedelic experience. UTTERLY SUCCESSFUL! Other transcendent concert films that feel like historic documents: REM's "Tourfilm", SUMMER OF SOUL, & LCD SOUND SYSTEM live at Madison Square Garden,2011, the farewell show. They're awesome normal, but if you're buggin, they'll change your life. Adjacent but not appropriate content. Hope something here brings you personal joy.
I think it’s because many of these Biopics talk about so many of the Same bands and the same stories. Like most people if they listen to even a little bit of rock know Queen, Elvis, Bob Marley and nothing new is added, no unique facts or additional details about their lives. Most people if they know anything about pop culture know a lot about these figures. I do appreciate some Biopics though, not all of them are like this: Ray, The Wall, Amadeus, 8 Mile, Weird Al, Walk the Line are worth watching, because I feel like it tells stories that are accurate and work well in movie form while still being creative and seems like a lot of research was done beforehand.
I didn't even know about the Weird Al bio-pic. Also i agree, Ghe Wall by Pink Floyd is a very interesting film and not an easy watch. Especially, considering it came out in 1982, 3 years after the album came out.
It's pretty damning when the best music biopics are comedic farces about fictional musicians . This Is Spinal Tap, A Mighty Wind, and Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story. And the first two were the brain children of the the same main cast. Weird is a little too new, but I think it'll end up there alongside those movies as the years go by. I can't remember the name, but years ago I saw a documentary about Credence Clearwater Revival and even though it was pretty accurate, it was one of the most unintentionally hilarious things I've ever seen. Half of the movie was John Fogarty talking about how great he was and how he propped up the entire band, and the other half was the other three guys talking about what an insufferable dick Fogarty is. Both sides are right, of course, but the way it was presented was comedic gold.
The only one I've seen that I enjoyed was "Runaways". It painted those girls exactly as they were, and the performances by everyone were stellar. Dakota Fanning's meltdown in the phone booth gave me goosebumps.
Runaways is frustrating because stylistically, it's amazing (and Michael Shannon was phenomenal!), but the story falls flat considering everything they left out (likely for legal and film rating reasons) and becomes a bit generic. I would have rather had a straight Cherie Currie biopic because what she's been through (as detailed in her memoir) is literally something out of a horror story and essential to perhaps why her career fell off.
I agree as a movie fan with everything you say but I couldn't stand the Elton John movie and struggled to get to the end. The only good thing about it for me is that it tried to be different than other biopics and was somewhat successful so it gives me hope for other movies.
Lots of time its just a non fictional narrative through the eyes of American cinema to boost ticket sales. Movies like Lords of Chaos are ENTERTAINING in the same way Mean Girls is entertaining, but now with a black metal theme. Theres many great documentaries out there, but biopics have been concerned with a flashy presentation before a historical accurate telling of a band's history.
What, really, do you expect? Rockstars are still human and, because of that, they tend to follow the same psychological paradigms. I'd say that Rock Star comes closest to breaking the trend, because the movie was about the second singer of Judas Priest, and he got noticed by Priest because he was in a cover band. Also, I'm Not There sort of bucked convention -- six actors played Dylan at different points in his career. On a completely different note, I really liked Netflix's Metal Lords because it didn't bother to define a band which already existed; it was just a movie with a fairly good soundtrack about the formation of a metal band. Or Hard Core Logo -- which (for me) remains the gold standard for rock movies.
@@acicularis lol Nah, you're not alone. And really, the musicians who actually appeared in Metal Lords must have had fun too -- otherwise, why would they have done it?
I’m sure they have good “intentions” and 99.9 percent of the time are flops. Documentaries are far more entertaining/informative than and biopic. Even Behind the Music series, while ok, still could have been better.
1) why would a rockstar or musician be 'cancelled' for allowing a less generic movie to be made? That just flat out makes no sense. 2) contrary to popular belief, being 'cancelled' doesn't actually matter: the likes of Kid Rock, Ted Nugent, Gene Simmons, Marilyn Manson, Kanye West, Ronnie Radke, Morgan Wallen, and more have remained INCREDIBLY popular and successful despite being 'cancelled' time and time again.
Minor nitpick: but there should’ve been some text at the end of your intro. Lol. But seriously, just about every music biopic ends with some text saying something like “Artist/band played for another (insert number) years” or “(Insert musician) passed away at the age of (insert number) due to illness/drug overdose” or anything along those lines. Why bother watching biopics when documentaries exist? I’d rather hear stories about the band/artist in question from the people who lived it instead of a bunch of actors in fancy Halloween costumes pretending to be rockstars. Rant over.
While there are lots of crap, I'm a huge fan of these ones. Walk the Line Love & Mercy Rocketman La Bamba Notorious Elvis Amadeus Staight Outta Compton
@@MrOmac09 I like that Val Kilmer actually sang everything. Didn't lip sync or rely on outside help. He channelled Jim in that movie imo. I know the movie has been heavily criticized by some but I dig it.
@@MrOmac09 Cool. I haven't seen that movie. I like Elton John's music but haven't gotten around to seeing it. Walk The Line is another good one that you mentioned. Thought Joaquin Phoenix was great in that movie. La Bamba is great as well. I really need to see Straight Outta Compton. Love NWA but haven't gotten around to seeing it. It isn't a music biopic but Crossroads is a fun movie. Love the final guitar duel between Ralph Macchio's character and Steve Vai as the devil. I used to have guitar tabs for Macchio's part (done by Vai and Ry Cooder (I think Cooder did the slide guitar parts) ).
The inaccuracies were intentional as symbolism was more important to the director (e.g. changing the truth of Dead's skull fragments used in the necklaces to chicken bones to illustrate Euronymous' fraudulent character). I enjoyed the film a lot tbh the death scenes really stayed with me for days after.
I re-watched Oliver Stones Doors movie for the first time in ages. Knowing what I know about Jim now that I didn't know the last time I saw the movie, it's a garbage movie with a totally inaccurate portrayal of Morrison.
The Lords Of Chaos case is an odd one if u ask me. I think we can all agree that no matter how historically accurate the movie would've been, black metal nerds all across the globe lose their shit over it nevertheless. But Akerlund intentionally stated that the movie was only partially based on fact while spiced up quite a bit with some romance and drama. I can understand the decision but it still makes for an odd sort of middle ground: do u wanna tell the real story of the Norwegian black metal scene? That would make for a very niche kind of movie which wouldn't catch the eye of more mainstream audiences. But then again, u can't stray too much off the path otherwise it may be "just another heavy metal movie." Overall I did enjoy the movie, even though it really doesn't seem to know what exactly it wants to be. Was it groundbreaking? Of course not, but I had a fun time watching it though.
True: Lords Of Chaos was arguably doomed from the start, there's no way the trve kvlt black metal crowd was going to embrace a big budget Mayhem biopic, and it doesn't help that Lords Of Chaos is trying to be a biopic for SO MANY things at once. Like, it wants to tell the story of Varg, Dead, Euronymous, the black circle, the origins of black metal itself, all at the same time, when just ONE of these has the potential to be a movie on its own.
@@themetalmeltdownofficial Perhaps, but that would've given the same problem of being too niche or running the risk of doing yet another black metal documentary while there's countless accounts out already. I do appreciate Akerlund's attempt at doing something different, even though it wasn't exactly a flawless output.
Music documentaries are often much cooler. My wife and I spend a whole day recently watching some on Netflix, one on the production of "We Are The World", another on George Michael and WHAM!, a few more. Always love the BANGER stuff as well, their Rush and Triumph documentaries are great.
As a side note, not trying to sound like an idiot elitist but I’m not an Amy Winehouse fan. Like at all. I don’t care for her singing. If you like you, that’s cool. Once again, and I have to stress, I’m not trying to sound like an idiot elitist.
What's really crazy is they started making fun of many of those clichés 40 years ago with This Is Spinal Tap.
This Is Spinal Tap is one of my top 5 movies of all time. Love that movie.
That movie was so ahead of its time
@@themetalmeltdownofficialEspecially since parodies in general weren't even super popular yet.
Jokes aside, trying to tell someone's entire life story in the span of 2 hours is almost impossible. That's one mistake I always see with these musician biopics: Trying to cram too much story into too little of a timeframe. You can't tell the entire history of Queen and Freddie Mercury in 2 hours. You just can't.
These biopics would work so much better if they were just a snapshot of a certain period in the artist's story. For example: If a Metallica biopic ever happened, you can easily make a 2-hour movie that only follows them from their formation up until the release of Kill 'Em All. There's so much you can cover in that time period, like Lars promising Brian Slagel a song for his album even though he didn't have a band yet, discovering Cliff Burton at a Trauma gig, hiring Dave Mustaine, firing Dave Mustaine, discovering Kirk, James losing his mom, etc. And it would make for a very focused story that doesn't feel like a rushed highlight reel.
Trying to rush through an entire band/artist's history in only 120-150 minutes worth of screentime feels vapid and rarely ever works.
This is a wonderful example, and I've been saying it for ages - either make a miniseries or focus on a specific era. I also think it would be more creative to emphasise themes in a story; a primary theme in Rocketman is Elton's struggle with self-identity, for instance.
The dramatization at the beginning had me rolling
Love & Mercy is an amazing movie (it's about Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys) and so is Control (which is about Joy Division's Ian Curtis). Both films tackle their respective stories tastefully and bluntly. Not much in the way of hollywood musician biopic schlock... though both tug at your heart strings with the very real pain of the films' subjects and those around them.
I completely agree. If it's a comedy like the Pick of Destiny then it works since Jack Black is a comedian and can play into the stereotypes of the rock and metal genre. However, the issue is with these Biopics is that it's a bunch board room executives creating the exact template without doing much research on the musicians personal lives.
Pick Of Destiny is also like Weird The Al Yankovic Story in the sense that its not truly a biopic but it occassionally pretends to be. Its a comedy first and foremost.
Research is important and the key to know many facts and information to create films in that genre. Great thing you pointed out.
The sad part of Pick of Destiny is the deleted scenes. Should left em in
I disagree about Lords of Chaos. The accuracy was not the point, because it was stated right off the bat that it was based "on truth and lies". I see it allegory about "edgy" humour and how courting with hateful ideologies WILL come back to bite you in the arse. Hell, at one point in the film Varg complains about "Posers sitting around and drinking beer", so the camera IMMEDATELY cuts to everyone in the room doing just that. The characters in that movie were never meant to be 1:1 to real life, but rather to show what happens when edgelords start taking themselves to seriously. It's holding up a mirror to the metal elitists who can never live up to their own lofty standards.
Euronomous was never evil. He wanted the image in order to get noticed, and in the end, he took things too far by going along with Varg's very real hate crusade. The ending of the film re-contextualises several earlier scenes to show that, in the end, he was as human as the rest of us. No, Varg didn't literally sit around making Chocolate Milk while letting Euronomous blead out. But the scene does represent how completely unempathetic and callous he was. He is the real evil, while Euronomous and Co were always "Villains in Name Only".
In short, I see Lords of Chaos as less of a biopic and more a historical drama. It's loosely based off true events, but serves a bigger purpose through its fictional elements as metal commentary.
After watching Bohemian Rhapsody, I am convinced the other members of Queen hate Freddie Mercury. They make it looks like all of the band’s problems were his fault. I hope there is never a John Lennon bio pic. It would probably leave out how abusive and neglectful he was to his first wife and son. Or it would show it, and upset the fans that didn’t know about it.
There will be. Infact there are plans in place for biopics for all 4 members of The Beatles and THEN a movie about The Beatles lmao, see for yourself www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/beatles-biopics-sam-mendes-1234979923/
@@themetalmeltdownofficial I totally forgot about that.
I think a Chuck Schuldiner biopic would be awesome. However A) It wouldn't make any money because only metalheads would care, and B) Whoever made it would probably find some way to fuck it up
The Elton John biopic Rocketman isn't safe from biopic cliches either, but I have to say that I loved that film. It was a genius idea to make it a musical.
I adore that film. Definitely my favorite biopic of the last decade. And yes, making it a musical worked so well. Rocketman should have won way more awards than Bohemian Rhapsody. Plus the lead actor actually sang the songs.
Another biopic not mentioned was Hysteria : The Def Leppard Story. That tells the story of the band up to the Hysteria album era. I own it on DVD. I read the band didn't like that they focused too much on the bad shit they went through. Like with Rick Allen's car crash and arm loss and guitarist Steve Clark's alchohol problems.
What did you think of Love And Mercy, the one about Brian Wilson? I loved it myself but I'm curious of your thoughts on it. I think it fits in that innovative/creative category with its split between 1966-67 and 1988-89
Never heard of it, so no comment
I do like some biopic films on musicians or bands or actors, but most of the time, some are not on point through the actual stories. It's very rare and difficult to get everything right. Love and Mercy is one of my favourites when it comes to portrayal and emotions. Brian Wilson praised the film despite the mental health parts were difficult for him to see as he went through a lot from his life. That's another thing that filmmakers have to be careful and mindful to work on films involving that subject matter. I thought it was brilliant as I'm a Beach Boys fan and I prefer it over Bohemian Rhapsody. Also, on Walk The Line the filmmakers had to ask Johnny Cash and his wife with permission to approve it and they accepted it. I would get picky when it comes to a biopic film if it sounds good or not.
3:50 Turning into Angel Dust
I was glad lords of chaos was done the way it was done. I really truthfully couldn’t care less how the norsecore scene of the second wave of black metal is represented considering the majority of people in that scene were garbage people. Varg euronymous especially
Great video! Thoughts on Spinal Tap?
A really silly movie that has aged surprisingly well. Supposedly they're making another one, could be interesting.
I swear to God, I was watching the Helvete documentary right when this video uploaded 😳
Control, biopic about Ian Curtis/Joy Division was great but yeah, most of the biopics I have seen have been quite meh overall
Never even heard of it, now I'm slightly curious
I forgot about that one. Yeah that's actually a pretty good biopic if u ask me!
I had the same Les Paul! Sold it a few years ago but I played it and loved it for 15 years. Great video as always Melty 🤘🍻
Jesus Christ, stop pumping out material worthy of me making a SECOND "Metal Meltdown out of context" video lmao
Never
My Dad had a copy of Pink Floyd's "The Wall" on VHS when I was in High School.
I used to steal it and bring it to friends' places so that we could smoke a joint and watch it late at night.
To the point that older dudes would get me high and let me hang out as long as I brought That Movie :)
I always had to return it though.
After over a year, he noticed that his VHS had a little more wear and tear on it.
So he eventually got it on DVD, because that version had extras he had never seen before :)
I don't think I'd survive watching The Wall high but now I wanna do it
It might be the movie I've seen the most times in my life.
Haven't watched it in AGES now because it is such a trip.
Check out this stage show they did, in Berlin, shortly after The Wall, if you haven't.
Cyndi Lauper kills it: ruclips.net/video/2VGyEwq8ums/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Ooohhh wait, copyright infringements and such.
But if you can find a solid copy of that Live Show, it's pretty dang incredible.
Anyways, enjoy your day!
movies in general are so bad these days. you watch like 10 movies and 9 are horrible. it was the other way around 30 years ago.
1994 had some pretty good movies. It also had a lot of shit no one remembers. It'll be the same for now in the future
Thank goodness for concert films and music documentaries.
Weird Al was a spoof not really a biopic
Why are people missing the joke? 🙄
Probably for the same reason yall think I didnt know it was satire - they werent paying attention lmao
I think a Black Sabbath movie could be cool, a movie detailing the influence and start of metal as a genre. would be kind of tricky to do though since Sharon would probably have final say how the movie turns out. Also a movie about Chuck Schuldiner would be great too.
ehhh, I'm not sure I'd wanna see either. The Black Sabbath one especially would fall into the same trap of cliches I made fun of in this video.
@@themetalmeltdownofficial that's fair. I'd just like to see a movie chronicle the beginnings of a genre made by people who have a love and understanding of that genre, the culture, and it's impact.
RIP Chompy
Nahh he good, he built different
More important question, why do you have a leather cowboy hat?
I was going to say an exception is Rush - Beyond the Lighted Stage (2010) but then had my coffee and realized you're talking about semi-fictionalized/dramatized treatments with actors. I'd have to think about it regarding which don't follow the cliched script, but then no one probably watches them. Which is why no one is probably itching to do one on Fugazi.
Yeah the Queen one sucked, but it seems to be the main way to revive interest in mainstream audiences to listen to these bands. Would it be possible for a Black Sabbath biopic not to follow the cliche, since they kind of invented it? An interesting challenge perhaps.
1) Because Mrs Meltdown likes it and its cool as shit lmao
2) Thats honestly not a great example of an exception because its not a biopic, its a documentary. Great movie though, BANGER rarely misses.
If you want perfect music biopics walk the line love and mercy ray the doors straight outta Compton la bamba and bob marley:one love
Straight Outta Compton was a really good movie
Any movie that just uses women as props leaves me cold, whatever the genre. A terrific antidote to rock biopics, since we're cheating at the end here, is DAVID BOWIE'S Moonage Daydream. No actors, no script, no tropes, just an iconic life in rock epically portrayed. And I know it's a concert doc, but its produced like a biopic.
On the DL, this movie was purposely engineered to be a profound psychedelic experience. UTTERLY SUCCESSFUL! Other transcendent concert films that feel like historic documents: REM's "Tourfilm", SUMMER OF SOUL, & LCD SOUND SYSTEM live at Madison Square Garden,2011, the farewell show. They're awesome normal, but if you're buggin, they'll change your life. Adjacent but not appropriate content. Hope something here brings you personal joy.
I think it’s because many of these Biopics talk about so many of the Same bands and the same stories. Like most people if they listen to even a little bit of rock know Queen, Elvis, Bob Marley and nothing new is added, no unique facts or additional details about their lives. Most people if they know anything about pop culture know a lot about these figures. I do appreciate some Biopics though, not all of them are like this: Ray, The Wall, Amadeus, 8 Mile, Weird Al, Walk the Line are worth watching, because I feel like it tells stories that are accurate and work well in movie form while still being creative and seems like a lot of research was done beforehand.
I didn't even know about the Weird Al bio-pic. Also i agree, Ghe Wall by Pink Floyd is a very interesting film and not an easy watch. Especially, considering it came out in 1982, 3 years after the album came out.
Because they’re made by non rockers for a quick cash grab
It's pretty damning when the best music biopics are comedic farces about fictional musicians . This Is Spinal Tap, A Mighty Wind, and Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story. And the first two were the brain children of the the same main cast.
Weird is a little too new, but I think it'll end up there alongside those movies as the years go by.
I can't remember the name, but years ago I saw a documentary about Credence Clearwater Revival and even though it was pretty accurate, it was one of the most unintentionally hilarious things I've ever seen. Half of the movie was John Fogarty talking about how great he was and how he propped up the entire band, and the other half was the other three guys talking about what an insufferable dick Fogarty is. Both sides are right, of course, but the way it was presented was comedic gold.
The only one I've seen that I enjoyed was "Runaways". It painted those girls exactly as they were, and the performances by everyone were stellar. Dakota Fanning's meltdown in the phone booth gave me goosebumps.
Runaways is frustrating because stylistically, it's amazing (and Michael Shannon was phenomenal!), but the story falls flat considering everything they left out (likely for legal and film rating reasons) and becomes a bit generic. I would have rather had a straight Cherie Currie biopic because what she's been through (as detailed in her memoir) is literally something out of a horror story and essential to perhaps why her career fell off.
I agree as a movie fan with everything you say but I couldn't stand the Elton John movie and struggled to get to the end. The only good thing about it for me is that it tried to be different than other biopics and was somewhat successful so it gives me hope for other movies.
What do you think of One Love by Bob Marley? I really enjoyed that one. Not sure if it follows your formula though.
Never saw it so I can't comment, although people in the comments seem semi-confident in it being a solid film.
This is probably the most accurate video I've seen this week.
I like documentaries… not biopics. Don’t need Hollywood/fictionalized/overly-dramatic accounts of true stories.
Dude, we forgot about Coal Miner's Daughter
Damn, we did. Haven't even thought of that movie in years.
They need to cut down the biopic movies yeah it's about money but Jesus stop we had great stories like Oppenheimer, which is amazing
Watching Oppenheimer back to back with Barbie was one of the best cinema experiences ever
I’m honestly thankful I have never seen a single musical biopic. I never thought they were worth my time.
Most aren't lmao, check out some of ones I mentioned near the end of the video if you find you wanna chabge that.
Lots of time its just a non fictional narrative through the eyes of American cinema to boost ticket sales. Movies like Lords of Chaos are ENTERTAINING in the same way Mean Girls is entertaining, but now with a black metal theme.
Theres many great documentaries out there, but biopics have been concerned with a flashy presentation before a historical accurate telling of a band's history.
Never once thought I'd hear 'Lords Of Chaos' and 'Mean Girls' in the same sentence lmao
What, really, do you expect? Rockstars are still human and, because of that, they tend to follow the same psychological paradigms. I'd say that Rock Star comes closest to breaking the trend, because the movie was about the second singer of Judas Priest, and he got noticed by Priest because he was in a cover band. Also, I'm Not There sort of bucked convention -- six actors played Dylan at different points in his career.
On a completely different note, I really liked Netflix's Metal Lords because it didn't bother to define a band which already existed; it was just a movie with a fairly good soundtrack about the formation of a metal band. Or Hard Core Logo -- which (for me) remains the gold standard for rock movies.
Finally! I felt like I was the only person who seemed to enjoy Metal Lords for the awkward and juvenile fun that it was.
@@acicularis lol Nah, you're not alone. And really, the musicians who actually appeared in Metal Lords must have had fun too -- otherwise, why would they have done it?
The montage is basically the plot of “Rockstar” with Mark Wahlberg, and I have to admit that I love that movie haha
Also really liked the Elton John biopic, and, even though it is not rock/metal, the NWA one, straight out of Compton is fire
I saw the Bob Marley biopic this past February and it was accurate.
As soon as I saw the actor who played Pete Tosh say the majority of his scenes were cut, oof. Disappointing.
Yeah I'm with you on those, esp on Bohemian Rhapsody that also manage to win Oscar for best editing despite editing in it being pretty much shit.
I’m sure they have good “intentions” and 99.9 percent of the time are flops. Documentaries are far more entertaining/informative than and biopic. Even Behind the Music series, while ok, still could have been better.
*Looking at thumbnail.
Don’t tell me, you didn’t like the Weird Al movie? You do realize that this is a satirical take on biopic movies right?
I am aware its a spoof and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I suggest you watch the video and not just the thumbnail.
Modern rockstars don't want to be cancelled and lose sales and tickets for themselves and their promoters. It's. A. Business.
1) why would a rockstar or musician be 'cancelled' for allowing a less generic movie to be made? That just flat out makes no sense.
2) contrary to popular belief, being 'cancelled' doesn't actually matter: the likes of Kid Rock, Ted Nugent, Gene Simmons, Marilyn Manson, Kanye West, Ronnie Radke, Morgan Wallen, and more have remained INCREDIBLY popular and successful despite being 'cancelled' time and time again.
Minor nitpick: but there should’ve been some text at the end of your intro. Lol.
But seriously, just about every music biopic ends with some text saying something like “Artist/band played for another (insert number) years” or “(Insert musician) passed away at the age of (insert number) due to illness/drug overdose” or anything along those lines.
Why bother watching biopics when documentaries exist? I’d rather hear stories about the band/artist in question from the people who lived it instead of a bunch of actors in fancy Halloween costumes pretending to be rockstars.
Rant over.
Walk Hard The Dewy Cox Story Best Biopic Ever!!!!
Dewey constantly ripping sinks off of walls is a top tier running gag
While there are lots of crap, I'm a huge fan of these ones.
Walk the Line
Love & Mercy
Rocketman
La Bamba
Notorious
Elvis
Amadeus
Staight Outta Compton
Amadeus is a great movie. Personally I like Oliver Stone's Doors movie as well.
@@SuperStrik9I have yet to see that.
@@MrOmac09 I like that Val Kilmer actually sang everything. Didn't lip sync or rely on outside help. He channelled Jim in that movie imo. I know the movie has been heavily criticized by some but I dig it.
@SuperStrik9 that's one thing I like about Rocketman, Taron Egerton did the singing himself.
@@MrOmac09 Cool. I haven't seen that movie. I like Elton John's music but haven't gotten around to seeing it. Walk The Line is another good one that you mentioned. Thought Joaquin Phoenix was great in that movie. La Bamba is great as well. I really need to see Straight Outta Compton. Love NWA but haven't gotten around to seeing it. It isn't a music biopic but Crossroads is a fun movie. Love the final guitar duel between Ralph Macchio's character and Steve Vai as the devil. I used to have guitar tabs for Macchio's part (done by Vai and Ry Cooder (I think Cooder did the slide guitar parts) ).
Can you dress like the first costume change more often fucking legendary!
I hope the MJ biopic tackled the false allegations in the movie. cuz Michael is my childhood hero.
I feel like I’m the only one in the world who liked Lords of Chaos.
I don’t care about the inaccuracies, it was an enjoyable movie
The inaccuracies were intentional as symbolism was more important to the director (e.g. changing the truth of Dead's skull fragments used in the necklaces to chicken bones to illustrate Euronymous' fraudulent character). I enjoyed the film a lot tbh the death scenes really stayed with me for days after.
I re-watched Oliver Stones Doors movie for the first time in ages. Knowing what I know about Jim now that I didn't know the last time I saw the movie, it's a garbage movie with a totally inaccurate portrayal of Morrison.
The Lords Of Chaos case is an odd one if u ask me. I think we can all agree that no matter how historically accurate the movie would've been, black metal nerds all across the globe lose their shit over it nevertheless. But Akerlund intentionally stated that the movie was only partially based on fact while spiced up quite a bit with some romance and drama. I can understand the decision but it still makes for an odd sort of middle ground: do u wanna tell the real story of the Norwegian black metal scene? That would make for a very niche kind of movie which wouldn't catch the eye of more mainstream audiences. But then again, u can't stray too much off the path otherwise it may be "just another heavy metal movie."
Overall I did enjoy the movie, even though it really doesn't seem to know what exactly it wants to be. Was it groundbreaking? Of course not, but I had a fun time watching it though.
Visually the movie was spot on, I enjoyed it despite its flaws
True: Lords Of Chaos was arguably doomed from the start, there's no way the trve kvlt black metal crowd was going to embrace a big budget Mayhem biopic, and it doesn't help that Lords Of Chaos is trying to be a biopic for SO MANY things at once. Like, it wants to tell the story of Varg, Dead, Euronymous, the black circle, the origins of black metal itself, all at the same time, when just ONE of these has the potential to be a movie on its own.
@@Saliva1 It has some strong moments and elements. Not a great movie but hardly the disaster that some would like to think it is.
@@Saliva1 True, camera work was pretty good and I did enjoy the gritty scenery!
@@themetalmeltdownofficial Perhaps, but that would've given the same problem of being too niche or running the risk of doing yet another black metal documentary while there's countless accounts out already. I do appreciate Akerlund's attempt at doing something different, even though it wasn't exactly a flawless output.
No joke as soon as this video was over it rolled into a trailer for the new Bob Marley biopic 🙄 well done algorithm, well done.
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We need a "Sex, Drugs, and/or Alcohol" sticker.
I think Rocketman was the only one recently that didn't feel too forced or all around cliche
I raise you 8 Mile for the win. Not actually a biopic for Eminem, but a GREAT example of how one of those movies could WORK.
A solid film for sure
If you only stayed in character this would have been epic
note to self: act like a drunk rockstar more often
idk the Weird Al one was pretty decent
I know, I said so in the video lmao
@@themetalmeltdownofficial uh oh…
@@themetalmeltdownofficial 😳sorry i’ll actually watch it later on when i get a chance lol oops
That thumbnail though. Makes him look like he didn’t like it and it’s wrong to dislike Weird Al.
@@Jonathanest90s its literally just a thumbnail bud lmao
Most movies are formulaic. It has really killed the creativity in cinema. At least i have X, Pearl and MaXXXine to watch on repeat
Pearl was fuckin great, really looking forward to MaXXXine
nice intro Rob🤣 bohemian rhapsody (film) is the worst. l despise Brian may.
One Love was kind of disappointing
Wow this is so funny😮
This makes sense to myself in ways
I've just seen Back To Black today and it's..... bleh
Stop making them and just do good documentaries, like the stooges one from Jim Jarmusch
Music documentaries are often much cooler. My wife and I spend a whole day recently watching some on Netflix, one on the production of "We Are The World", another on George Michael and WHAM!, a few more. Always love the BANGER stuff as well, their Rush and Triumph documentaries are great.
Lame
Holy shit when he say your so fucking smart i swear he turn in to mobsters
As a side note, not trying to sound like an idiot elitist but I’m not an Amy Winehouse fan. Like at all. I don’t care for her singing. If you like you, that’s cool. Once again, and I have to stress, I’m not trying to sound like an idiot elitist.
Yeah I agree. Biopics are fucking stupid.