This is a revelation to me. Its a long story but i knew a guy who decided to borrow a shit ton of money to buy a bunch of gear for a dream that didnt work out. I remember he had a blue thing which i couldnt pin down. This is it. He even let me do a sample bank with my eps16+. Crazy. Mind blown. 🤣👍👍
David Bowie used the Cs1x live during the time of the Earthling album. Although the head of the childishly famous Bad Gear will put his negative stamp on this instrument, it remains a device that still has a lot to gain from it.
I think you've misunderstood Florian's tongue in cheek humour - if there's one thing his videos should impart, it's that even a lot of the most derided gear can make great music if the person using it has got the imagination.
I think an appearance on a Bad Gear episode makes gear just more well known, not more hated.. and if it's rare enough and only available on the second hand market, prices more likely go up because of risen interest. If there's something bad to say about those instruments, it's usually alkready stated out multiple times in multiple sources. If something, Bad Gear points out the bright sides of those instruments, Florian makes great use of every instrument in his demos.
Awesome video, love the effort you’ve put into the various scenes, little cameo winks in the posters, and brilliant sounds. Feels like you’ve captured the dreams of my early 20s.
My 1st hardware setup: MC-303 and CS2X. Shamelessly copying my nephew and his friend who combined a MC-303 and a CS1X. Wich we then combined together, 2 MC-303 sequencers and a CS1X and a CS2X. My 1st synth was a Yamaha DX 27 or 21 I don't remember wich one, they both were a scaled down DX 7 FM type. Wich is not really interesting for Techno and Trance production. I got a Yamaha RM1X groovebox later on wich rocked !!! The MC-303 is great for the drums and basslines, the TR-909 style drum sequencer is a great tool for programming and controlling drums patterns live. Cool arpeggiators on the MC-303 and the CS1X and the CS2X too. Man I miss this old gear, lots of MIDI cables daisychaining the gear and hours of fun.
@shambien yeah I thought VSTs and MIDI controllers were going to be great. They are, but I miss the hardware. And we had to write songs and learn them. Cool stuff would happen too, one comes up with some beat and the others lays something over with the synth and it just clicks ! Like wow, listen to this shit !!! What if we put the thing from last week with it.. Yeah we'd have some good times with making music together. We did a great gig once, with the MC-303, a nordrack and a guitar with the BOSS GT-5 pedal on an ambient festival, the ORB was there as a DJ gig and they had issues with their CD players and we had a spare for them. Good memories, I forgot about all that stuff already. The 90's were good times man. Crazy but good !!!
Well it's a bit of diving into how I can use AI to help me create some 'assets' for my videos really. I asked it to create some mid 90s inspired rooms to go with the videogame ads I used
Must. Make. Distinction. About. Sound. Generation. Sources.... A 'rompler' is banks of samples, played at different pitches, or 'pitched samples'. They deteriorate and change their tuning when played slower and cannot change pitch without changing the length of the sample being played back. A 'wavetable type of sound generation such as AWM is still using a sample but with much more advanced technology, in which, the sample is divided into minute sections, which are routed through oscillators and filters to add the ability to manipulate the initial sample more deeply and retain the tuning and quality when pitched over a larger area of the scale and even retaining the integrity of the original sample over multiple octaves. FM is pure tone generation without a sample being used. So a rompler is cheap and simple sample playback and altering the frequency to achieve different notes, but will degrade or change the sound of tuned too far from the original sample, say around 1 octave.
I'm referring to the term rompler here as most people actually consider machines like the CS1x, The Korg M1, the Proteus series etc. as romplers. Some are pure romplers, some are a bit more sophisticated - most people don't care. If you do: sorry for the inaccuracy
@@rejectedsynths OK. But AWM is wavetable. Advanced Wave Memory. AWM was Yamaha's first wavetable technology. The Korg M1 was not wavetable, but mixed aspects of samples with tone generation. Just not processed into a table beforehand. To my knowledge. A rompler is simply playing back samples at different frequencies from a note sampled in middle A for instance.
The CS1X shares the same 4Mb XG soundset as in most PSR keyboards plus additional waves. The sound quality is not better than the thin sounding PSR keyboards.
The CS1x was my fitst synth and I found it only usable as a MIDI controller. It didn't sound good and the filters where very steppy. Later on I got an Electribe MX-1, which was the right starter synth for me. It's probably still the best groovebox when it comes to the cobination of being intuitive and having great sounds.
I really enjoyed the story you told in the video, but the extreme use of AI contnt is kinda desturbing to be honest. I really dont like it. Feels so alien
Don't worry, as often, I just try out new things and these 90s videogame ads were so lo res using them without this trick would have hurt your eyes a lot more than these uncanny AI dorm rooms 😅
This really is comparing apples with pears as we say in Germany. The JP8000 was a 'high end' VA and the CS1x a beginners rompler. That's like complaining a Ford Fiesta can't outrun a Posche 😜
@rejectedsynths I agree. I was trying to make the point that it wasn't the era's underdeveloped technology that was the reason for the CS1X being such a poor synth, but a really badly designed product made by a prestigious company. I felt like they robbed me of my £600.
XG sounds very cheap and crumpled on HFs. I used it a lot and that sound character finally pissed me off so much so I even can't watch reviews. Zero nostalgy. Put mine to shelf on early VST era and finally donated it to children in need.
I bought mine when it came out in 1996 and I still use it to date.
When you couple it with an AN1X it really shines. The perfect combo.
This is a revelation to me. Its a long story but i knew a guy who decided to borrow a shit ton of money to buy a bunch of gear for a dream that didnt work out. I remember he had a blue thing which i couldnt pin down. This is it. He even let me do a sample bank with my eps16+. Crazy. Mind blown. 🤣👍👍
The white ford bronco at 7:45 actually made me bust out laughing. Nice touch
Well it's featured in another well known ahooter of that era so I thought why not 😜
Εven now after all these years it still gives me something special in my sound. Many thanks for sharing this great video !! 👌✨
Glad you enjoy it, somehow it's instant 90s in the (blue) box
That intro is fire
David Bowie used the Cs1x live during the time of the Earthling album. Although the head of the childishly famous Bad Gear will put his negative stamp on this instrument, it remains a device that still has a lot to gain from it.
That's hot take on Bad Gear...🤔
All gear is Bad Gear if you're sarcastic enough.
I think you've misunderstood Florian's tongue in cheek humour - if there's one thing his videos should impart, it's that even a lot of the most derided gear can make great music if the person using it has got the imagination.
I think an appearance on a Bad Gear episode makes gear just more well known, not more hated.. and if it's rare enough and only available on the second hand market, prices more likely go up because of risen interest.
If there's something bad to say about those instruments, it's usually alkready stated out multiple times in multiple sources. If something, Bad Gear points out the bright sides of those instruments, Florian makes great use of every instrument in his demos.
Man you and many others have put too much stock in to the shows name. If you watch the videos he almost never trashes the gear.
Instant sub, demo tracks are on point
Cs1x/cs2x are fantastic synths with lots of depth and a varied arp like the virus series
Awesome video, love the effort you’ve put into the various scenes, little cameo winks in the posters, and brilliant sounds. Feels like you’ve captured the dreams of my early 20s.
Great video,subbed!
Great demo. But the timetravel .... right into the feels. Puts a big smile on my face.
My 1st hardware setup:
MC-303 and CS2X.
Shamelessly copying my nephew and his friend who combined a MC-303 and a CS1X.
Wich we then combined together, 2 MC-303 sequencers and a CS1X and a CS2X.
My 1st synth was a Yamaha DX 27 or 21 I don't remember wich one, they both were a scaled down DX 7 FM type.
Wich is not really interesting for Techno and Trance production.
I got a Yamaha RM1X groovebox later on wich rocked !!! The MC-303 is great for the drums and basslines, the TR-909 style drum sequencer is a great tool for programming and controlling drums patterns live.
Cool arpeggiators on the MC-303 and the CS1X and the CS2X too.
Man I miss this old gear, lots of MIDI cables daisychaining the gear and hours of fun.
I had (and still have) the CS1x and a friend of mine had the MC303.... Together we played some cool jams, indeed!
@shambien yeah I thought VSTs and MIDI controllers were going to be great. They are, but I miss the hardware.
And we had to write songs and learn them. Cool stuff would happen too, one comes up with some beat and the others lays something over with the synth and it just clicks !
Like wow, listen to this shit !!!
What if we put the thing from last week with it..
Yeah we'd have some good times with making music together.
We did a great gig once, with the MC-303, a nordrack and a guitar with the BOSS GT-5 pedal on an ambient festival, the ORB was there as a DJ gig and they had issues with their CD players and we had a spare for them.
Good memories, I forgot about all that stuff already. The 90's were good times man. Crazy but good !!!
Great demo tunes.
Jonas Steur (Estuera) used the CS1X through most of his career, like in his hit Fall to Pieces
Im in love with Your new visuals for demo tracks - a full package!
Am I correct - Bad Gear inspired?
Well it's a bit of diving into how I can use AI to help me create some 'assets' for my videos really. I asked it to create some mid 90s inspired rooms to go with the videogame ads I used
Must. Make. Distinction. About. Sound. Generation. Sources.... A 'rompler' is banks of samples, played at different pitches, or 'pitched samples'. They deteriorate and change their tuning when played slower and cannot change pitch without changing the length of the sample being played back.
A 'wavetable type of sound generation such as AWM is still using a sample but with much more advanced technology, in which, the sample is divided into minute sections, which are routed through oscillators and filters to add the ability to manipulate the initial sample more deeply and retain the tuning and quality when pitched over a larger area of the scale and even retaining the integrity of the original sample over multiple octaves.
FM is pure tone generation without a sample being used.
So a rompler is cheap and simple sample playback and altering the frequency to achieve different notes, but will degrade or change the sound of tuned too far from the original sample, say around 1 octave.
I'm referring to the term rompler here as most people actually consider machines like the CS1x, The Korg M1, the Proteus series etc. as romplers. Some are pure romplers, some are a bit more sophisticated - most people don't care. If you do: sorry for the inaccuracy
@@rejectedsynths OK. But AWM is wavetable. Advanced Wave Memory. AWM was Yamaha's first wavetable technology. The Korg M1 was not wavetable, but mixed aspects of samples with tone generation. Just not processed into a table beforehand.
To my knowledge. A rompler is simply playing back samples at different frequencies from a note sampled in middle A for instance.
Back, when Florian Pilz had hair... 🧐
Someone caught the easter egg 😁👍
Anyone else find themselves gurning at the four minute mark?
The CS1X shares the same 4Mb XG soundset as in most PSR keyboards plus additional waves. The sound quality is not better than the thin sounding PSR keyboards.
The CS1x was my fitst synth and I found it only usable as a MIDI controller. It didn't sound good and the filters where very steppy. Later on I got an Electribe MX-1, which was the right starter synth for me. It's probably still the best groovebox when it comes to the cobination of being intuitive and having great sounds.
god damn fleshy shell.
Good one 😂👍
I really enjoyed the story you told in the video, but the extreme use of AI contnt is kinda desturbing to be honest. I really dont like it. Feels so alien
pls don't use genAI going forward... the slop is distracting me from the great demos!
Don't worry, as often, I just try out new things and these 90s videogame ads were so lo res using them without this trick would have hurt your eyes a lot more than these uncanny AI dorm rooms 😅
100% agreed. You don't need the plagiarism machine to make good videos. Your videos were great already!
I despise this synth. Yamaha did a really poor job with this synth. To think, Roland brought out the JP8000 earlier the SAME year!
This really is comparing apples with pears as we say in Germany. The JP8000 was a 'high end' VA and the CS1x a beginners rompler. That's like complaining a Ford Fiesta can't outrun a Posche 😜
@rejectedsynths I agree. I was trying to make the point that it wasn't the era's underdeveloped technology that was the reason for the CS1X being such a poor synth, but a really badly designed product made by a prestigious company. I felt like they robbed me of my £600.
@EpicWinz yes, as I think I made clear in my video, they clearly tried to cash in into the then current techo craze
XG sounds very cheap and crumpled on HFs. I used it a lot and that sound character finally pissed me off so much so I even can't watch reviews. Zero nostalgy. Put mine to shelf on early VST era and finally donated it to children in need.