Super excited for this year. Planted 10 lbs in 10-15 foot wide rows around food plots and to hide our access. Sprayed simazine last week (Southern Illinois). Just hoping seed does not wash away. Thank you WHS, you guys are great! Most of my leisure time is spent trying to follow your principles.
My switchgrass is coming today. I think I'll need to spray, disc/till spray again at planting. It seems that I can't get liquid simazine here in Michigan but I have my 24D and glyphosate. I have been telling all the fellow hunters I know about your videos. Thank you
Thanks a lot! I hope this one made a lot of sense...I know Dylan tried to make sure to illustrate a lot better to help show how the switch relates to the overall strategy.
Jeff:20+ inches snow in northern WI. Very much looking forward to getting started on the lan you designed for us. Thanks for the specific steps in planting the SG.
Jeff, I purchased the same spreader for this year’s seeding and fertilizing. Can’t wait to see how it performs. Sure will beat casting seed by hand lol.
I had great success last year frost seeding in DEC, good application of simozine in spring and mowed 3x. From late july after last mowing until 1st frost came back to 2ft tall 1st year. Impressed myself. Thanks for all the tips Jeff.
Great video. I follow all of your videos and was familiar with everything except wether or not i could frost seed into an existing field with vegetation. Looks like it's a go as long as I follow up with spraying.
Jeff I really hope you can answer this for me. If I circle my field corn food plot 1/2 acre with 10 foot swath of switch grass will the deer walk through the switch grass to get to the corn and feel safe or will they feel confined?? Thanks for any help.
Hi Vince really appreciate you watching! Alfalfa isn't a very high value for plot. Begins late in the spring and dies back early in the Fall. Really not s good Fall food source. For similar use clover is almost always a better choice with the exception of some of the more arid areas out West....Montana for example.
Just waiting for things to dry out so I don’t get stuck! Just 2 1/2 hours straight west of you (Mankato area)…. We got roughly 2” of rain and 3” of snow that last couple days. Thanks again!!! I think I have all of your videos on repeat!
Jeff, I have a question. In this video you said you can mix your 24D and glyphosate. But, do you run all your chemicals through the same sprayer? Pre-and post-emergent, glyphosate, plot start, and plot boost? Do you run them all through throughout the year and do you ever flush your sprayer out before using the next. I know you spray certain stuff at different times of the year, but I’m hesitant to run my glyphosate in the same sprayer as my plot booster. Just looking for some wisdom in this to ease concerns. Thankful for you and love your channel.
Josh - You Need/Must/Should thoroughly rinse your sprayer, boom, nozzles out after every use. We usually run about 5-10 gallons but simazine is chalky mix and takes about twice that to get a good cleaning.
i frost seeded my switch at thanksgiving and now that its march and the sandhill cranes are back they are feeding in that area all day i hope they arent able to eat all that little tiny seed
I drill seeded switchgrass last summer, I am looking to spray Simazine on it this march yet. How long after or before a rain should that be sprayed? Love your videos!
Hi Alex! It really depends on Spring greenup but we just had a couple inches of snow today in SE MN....I would think 4/1 would be OK? Hard to say tho. Something to consider is that you have more time for frostseeding switch than applying Simazine...
TEMP QUESTION- When you say switch grass germinates in the mid to high 50’s, is that both morning and night time soil temperatures or just day time? Thank you.
Hi Isaac it sure us ok! You have to make sure that you hit it with 2-4D and Glyphosate when the weeds are several inches tall and in a good growing phase. Then plan on mowing...
Having trouble finding simazine with all of the shortages. You mention its not as essential as the other sprayings. To compensate I am considering 3 rounds of gly/24d, gly/24d and gly. Would broadcast the seed at time of the third and final spraying. Would you foresee any issues with this altered schedule? (pure gly no 2,4,D on third spraying). Thank you
Using an Earthway 2750 to frost seed switchgrass. I defintely am having issues with finding the proper setting for the 2750. Can someone please tell me what setting I should use?
Hey Jeff, with this years unusual spring in MN/WI (from cold to summer), does the 2 spray plan into frost seeded switch (gly/2-4d and then gly) need to change with soil temps being much higher earlier than normal?
Hey Jeff, frost seeded cave in rock today. Getting my boom sprayer (9 ft) ready. What number tee jets do I need for spraying simazine? Thanks for all the great strategy 👍🏻
Hi Fred that sounds great! We have such high winds here today I can't spray or seed. I may brushhog tho! I used the same setup that I do for spraying Glyphosate and 2-4D.
@@whitetailhabitatandhunting That was a joke. Of course they bed in switch. Why would people plant all this switch with pockets and not have deer bed in it? I've jumped huge bucks in switch fields on public land while pheasant hunting and I already have them bedding in mine after one year. Have a great day.
Thanks Jeff. What are your thoughts on using RC Tecumseh over CIR/RC Big Rock for drier/sandier soils? Sounds like John Komp is supposed to be getting it in April - just didn't want to be broadcasting it too late.
Hey Jeff, I have been watching for a year and half and did very basic brassica plot added winter rye to it as a cover because the dear destroyed it. Anyways I was able to able to spray plant the edges of the woods and a few open areas inside the parcel. Should I be concerned about the leafs blocking some of the soil or should I just frost seed and go. Worst case I can blow the leaves out and seed on top of the soil. I am not allowed to plant to agg field so I cleared out the sunniest portion of the woods and will be using the no till method. Hoping this works as it’s not an open agg field but grassy knoll with some browse. Have you done anything similar?
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I'm headed over to Richland center Thursday and guessing there may be a little green up. It was an old farm field I frost seeded
Can't you frost seed soft seed or does it need to be hard seed. I ask because I prepped my areas last summer and fall and fall planted them with beans and peas. Now it's ready for frost seeding....I think, lol.
Well, I frost seeded last week into a prepared area from last fall. My only issue was that I set my Earthway spreader on 1.5, walked pretty fast and turned the spreader fairly slow and was out of 4 lbs of seed in less than a quarter acre. What did I do wrong?
I’m planting Real World switchgrass this weekend. They recommend 5-6 lbs per acre and say that seeding heavier will not be helpful. Do you think I should plant at 8-10 lbs instead?
Hi Dan! You should definitely plant more like 8 to 10. The deer will not bed in it unless it's their only option...which isn't a good thing. So the switch us largely for screening, a downwind blocker for stand locations, access, adjacent to actual bedding cover, etc. Also, most of those "proprietary" blends have short and tall varieties. When they are planted light the stand becomes very thin and we have had to replace very large, 15 to 18 acre fields of those mixes. 5 to 6 pounds in theory sounds good because you don't have to spend as much money when instead you will end up with a thin stand that likely won't accomplish your needs.
I really appreciate you wanting me to come! As of right now I don't see getting down to MO any time soon. BUT, Dylan, Kevan or Joe can make plans to fly to you. I don't fly to anymore clients. Dylan is booked for the year but Joe and Kevan still have openings...
Good math Nathan! The cool thing is so.ething I learned long, long ago. I used to wright out all of my seed with a scale to a very fine amount. NOW tho, I just set the seeder where it should be and go seed 😊 A lot less time and math involved if that makes sense...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 ... Jeff, I have the same Earthway spreader and this is my first year planting switchgrass. What setting do you use on the spreader?
Got to have cover...to go with browse. Also, forbs are not available when deer need it the most...Fall and Winter. Do some research and come back to this channel with smarter comments 😉
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 what is your point exactly that it's not available in the winter? How about spring and summer when they are growing those big antlers y'all obsess about...oh let me guess- you grow a corn patch for them 😂 You should be doing a diverse mix of grass AND forbs and thus get the best of both worlds, seriosuly- it's so obvious it should slap you in the brain
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25+ inches of snow in Northern Wisconsin. Snowed again yesterday but very excited to get going!
I have followed Jeff's method for last 2 years. My switch grass areas have come in clean and beautiful.
Im glad to see these video i got my switchgrass down last week
That's great Jeremy...really good timing!
Super excited for this year. Planted 10 lbs in 10-15 foot wide rows around food plots and to hide our access. Sprayed simazine last week (Southern Illinois). Just hoping seed does not wash away. Thank you WHS, you guys are great! Most of my leisure time is spent trying to follow your principles.
My switchgrass is coming today. I think I'll need to spray, disc/till spray again at planting. It seems that I can't get liquid simazine here in Michigan but I have my 24D and glyphosate. I have been telling all the fellow hunters I know about your videos. Thank you
Hi John...good luck! And thank you very much...
Just make sure to mow if needed later in the Summer...
Great video! I keep learning from you and taking notes and saving videos. Thank you. Love your content!
Thanks a lot! I hope this one made a lot of sense...I know Dylan tried to make sure to illustrate a lot better to help show how the switch relates to the overall strategy.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 He did. The clip of the road with switch on both sides drove the point home for me. Yall make a great team
Jeff:20+ inches snow in northern WI. Very much looking forward to getting started on the lan you designed for us. Thanks for the specific steps in planting the SG.
Wow Len that is crazy!! I am too...I hope you have been seeing more older bucks in the neighborhood!
When spraying simazine how moist can the ground be? It doesn't stop raining in SE Wisconsin this spring!
Awesome Jeff appreciate everything you do!
Thanks a lot Drew! Hope it helps 😊 One of my favorite things to plant 👍
Jeff, I purchased the same spreader for this year’s seeding and fertilizing. Can’t wait to see how it performs. Sure will beat casting seed by hand lol.
I like how smooth rhat they are!
Excellent step by step video Jeff! How many passes to get a 12 foot wide bank of switch along your boundaries?
I had great success last year frost seeding in DEC, good application of simozine in spring and mowed 3x. From late july after last mowing until 1st frost came back to 2ft tall 1st year. Impressed myself. Thanks for all the tips Jeff.
Great video. I follow all of your videos and was familiar with everything except wether or not i could frost seed into an existing field with vegetation. Looks like it's a go as long as I follow up with spraying.
We still have two feet of snow on the ground with more coming tonight. I sure do appreciate your videos!
Would spraying weed-be-gone work, post germination of the switch?
Jeff do I need to address any grass (not switch) in switchgrass or does the mowing take care of it over a few years
Jeff I really hope you can answer this for me. If I circle my field corn food plot 1/2 acre with 10 foot swath of switch grass will the deer walk through the switch grass to get to the corn and feel safe or will they feel confined?? Thanks for any help.
Hi Ronald they will definitely walk thru it and make trails thru it. It will also help them feel much safer while feeding in it...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 awesome thank you so very much.
Great question!
Jeff, planted switch last year. No weeds, should i still mow the second year?
Big fan!!! Your thoughts on alfalfa? Can't recall you ever mentioning it.
Hi Vince really appreciate you watching!
Alfalfa isn't a very high value for plot. Begins late in the spring and dies back early in the Fall. Really not s good Fall food source. For similar use clover is almost always a better choice with the exception of some of the more arid areas out West....Montana for example.
Thanks for the video!! Any idea when John might have the rc big rock available?
On my second year of frost seeding switch ! I have thatch from mowing and non switch. Can I burn off or just spray ?
Simazine will not hurt the broadcast switch grass seed on the ground?
Hi Tony no it will not...or dormant existing switch.
Just waiting for things to dry out so I don’t get stuck! Just 2 1/2 hours straight west of you (Mankato area)…. We got roughly 2” of rain and 3” of snow that last couple days.
Thanks again!!! I think I have all of your videos on repeat!
How would you go about establishing switch in and area currently in brome? Northern MO.
Jeff, I have a question. In this video you said you can mix your 24D and glyphosate. But, do you run all your chemicals through the same sprayer? Pre-and post-emergent, glyphosate, plot start, and plot boost? Do you run them all through throughout the year and do you ever flush your sprayer out before using the next. I know you spray certain stuff at different times of the year, but I’m hesitant to run my glyphosate in the same sprayer as my plot booster. Just looking for some wisdom in this to ease concerns. Thankful for you and love your channel.
Josh - You Need/Must/Should thoroughly rinse your sprayer, boom, nozzles out after every use. We usually run about 5-10 gallons but simazine is chalky mix and takes about twice that to get a good cleaning.
Does Simazine need contact with the ground to be effective, or can you apply it on top of existing duff?
Existing duff is completely fine. Rain will wash and soak it into the ground as long as within 10 days...
i frost seeded my switch at thanksgiving and now that its march and the sandhill cranes are back they are feeding in that area all day i hope they arent able to eat all that little tiny seed
I drill seeded switchgrass last summer, I am looking to spray Simazine on it this march yet. How long after or before a rain should that be sprayed? Love your videos!
Hi Bret! Rain in the forecast within 10 days is perfect. It helps it soak into the ground and into the roots...
Going to get some frost seeding of switchgrass done today Jeff! Think spraying simazine around April 1 is too late for South Central WI?
Hi Alex! It really depends on Spring greenup but we just had a couple inches of snow today in SE MN....I would think 4/1 would be OK? Hard to say tho. Something to consider is that you have more time for frostseeding switch than applying Simazine...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 appreciate the feedback Jeff!
Great info. When you mow later on, how short do you cut it? Thanks!
Thabks Chris! Down to 5 or 6 inches...I actually use a mid PTO belly mower on a small Kubota tractor.
How long does it take for second year switch sprout/green up? Will it green up first or does it take warmer soil temps to green up?
TEMP QUESTION- When you say switch grass germinates in the mid to high 50’s, is that both morning and night time soil temperatures or just day time? Thank you.
So did you spray that field the year before
Do you have to burn the switch to maintain it. I'm scared of burning personally
Hey Jeff, would it be ok to plant Switch now? I'm in Midwest IL, and spring green up is here! 👍 Thanks
Hi Isaac it sure us ok! You have to make sure that you hit it with 2-4D and Glyphosate when the weeds are several inches tall and in a good growing phase. Then plan on mowing...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 won't the 24d kill the switch?
I’m using it for deer bedding plan on doing ten acres in a swamp
Seeded today, 3/25 !
Having trouble finding simazine with all of the shortages. You mention its not as essential as the other sprayings. To compensate I am considering 3 rounds of gly/24d, gly/24d and gly. Would broadcast the seed at time of the third and final spraying. Would you foresee any issues with this altered schedule? (pure gly no 2,4,D on third spraying). Thank you
What beans and peas do you use
Using an Earthway 2750 to frost seed switchgrass. I defintely am having issues with finding the proper setting for the 2750. Can someone please tell me what setting I should use?
1.5 😉
Broadcasting some myself this afternoon.. I have used 1.5 for years with switchgrass 👍
Whats your thoughts on pockets of switch in woods ? it would have ample light to grow
Frost seeded 4-2-22, switchgrass seedlings showing up 6-7-22. Central WI.
Hey Jeff, with this years unusual spring in MN/WI (from cold to summer), does the 2 spray plan into frost seeded switch (gly/2-4d and then gly) need to change with soil temps being much higher earlier than normal?
Looking forward to putting in several acres of Switch but having difficulty finding Simazine. Very few options online. Any ideas?
Hey Jeff, frost seeded cave in rock today. Getting my boom sprayer (9 ft) ready. What number tee jets do I need for spraying simazine? Thanks for all the great strategy 👍🏻
Hi Fred that sounds great! We have such high winds here today I can't spray or seed. I may brushhog tho!
I used the same setup that I do for spraying Glyphosate and 2-4D.
Deer don't bed in switch?
Nope! Not directly in it, but mainly to the sides, providing cover. 👍
@@whitetailhabitatandhunting That was a joke. Of course they bed in switch. Why would people plant all this switch with pockets and not have deer bed in it? I've jumped huge bucks in switch fields on public land while pheasant hunting and I already have them bedding in mine after one year. Have a great day.
Question: my SG is doing awesome at 4 years old. Is there an advantage or need to mow the stand?
Thanks Jeff. What are your thoughts on using RC Tecumseh over CIR/RC Big Rock for drier/sandier soils? Sounds like John Komp is supposed to be getting it in April - just didn't want to be broadcasting it too late.
its the best choice
Hey Jeff, I have been watching for a year and half and did very basic brassica plot added winter rye to it as a cover because the dear destroyed it. Anyways I was able to able to spray plant the edges of the woods and a few open areas inside the parcel. Should I be concerned about the leafs blocking some of the soil or should I just frost seed and go. Worst case I can blow the leaves out and seed on top of the soil.
I am not allowed to plant to agg field so I cleared out the sunniest portion of the woods and will be using the no till method. Hoping this works as it’s not an open agg field but grassy knoll with some browse. Have you done anything similar?
Will the Simazine keep ferns from coming up?
What are your thoughts on planting John’s screening blend this year then frost seeding switch in the fall when hopefully prices go down?
Jeff where is the best place to buy Switchgrass?
Is it too late to spray the simazine?
It really depends on if you have green showing or not. It controls weeds that will be growing...not weeds that already are growing.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I'm headed over to Richland center Thursday and guessing there may be a little green up. It was an old farm field I frost seeded
What do you use to weigh the seed or do you guess for lbs/acre?
Can't you frost seed soft seed or does it need to be hard seed. I ask because I prepped my areas last summer and fall and fall planted them with beans and peas. Now it's ready for frost seeding....I think, lol.
You sure can Tony! It will explode either way when the temps and moisture align later this Spring...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Thanks Jeff.
Well, I frost seeded last week into a prepared area from last fall. My only issue was that I set my Earthway spreader on 1.5, walked pretty fast and turned the spreader fairly slow and was out of 4 lbs of seed in less than a quarter acre. What did I do wrong?
I’m planting Real World switchgrass this weekend. They recommend 5-6 lbs per acre and say that seeding heavier will not be helpful. Do you think I should plant at 8-10 lbs instead?
Hi Dan! You should definitely plant more like 8 to 10. The deer will not bed in it unless it's their only option...which isn't a good thing. So the switch us largely for screening, a downwind blocker for stand locations, access, adjacent to actual bedding cover, etc. Also, most of those "proprietary" blends have short and tall varieties. When they are planted light the stand becomes very thin and we have had to replace very large, 15 to 18 acre fields of those mixes. 5 to 6 pounds in theory sounds good because you don't have to spend as much money when instead you will end up with a thin stand that likely won't accomplish your needs.
How do I get you to my property in missouri
I really appreciate you wanting me to come! As of right now I don't see getting down to MO any time soon. BUT, Dylan, Kevan or Joe can make plans to fly to you. I don't fly to anymore clients. Dylan is booked for the year but Joe and Kevan still have openings...
4 0z per 1000' sq = 10.89 lbs. per a. If you have a kitchen scale and your doing small areas.
Good math Nathan! The cool thing is so.ething I learned long, long ago. I used to wright out all of my seed with a scale to a very fine amount. NOW tho, I just set the seeder where it should be and go seed 😊 A lot less time and math involved if that makes sense...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 ... Jeff, I have the same Earthway spreader and this is my first year planting switchgrass. What setting do you use on the spreader?
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Congrats, wasn't paying attention!!! 😂
You guys are fast!
@@whitetailhabitatandhunting moon phase-plus temp = first!
@Number 1 Fan good morning Fan-! Have a great day-
Deer hunters and their switchgrass 😂
Forbs people, deer love forbs. Damn, read the research
Got to have cover...to go with browse. Also, forbs are not available when deer need it the most...Fall and Winter.
Do some research and come back to this channel with smarter comments 😉
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 what is your point exactly that it's not available in the winter? How about spring and summer when they are growing those big antlers y'all obsess about...oh let me guess- you grow a corn patch for them 😂 You should be doing a diverse mix of grass AND forbs and thus get the best of both worlds, seriosuly- it's so obvious it should slap you in the brain