Hey Folks - the loco in the video isn't a SD40-2, it's an Alco C-628 (or something similar!), and Soo Line is a real company! Thanks to everyone for letting me know!
This is fantastic, an actual affordable train set! I miss when these used to be more common, these are the sets that bring people into the hobby and as a result I think they're very important. Most of these starter sets today are all battery powered, I can't tell you how happy I am to see an actual electric one. Maybe I'm overly excited but this seems really good and I think I might get one my self.
I know what mean smt mainline, I still have the bachmann challenger set with e-z track. I restarted my interest in model trains, with two starter sets, and second hand track from an antique shop.
@Joel Chandler Exactly, I don't think most families can cough up $250 for a train set. Even in the 2000s bachmann and lifelike were still making budget friendly sets. Now life like is gone and bachmann has raised their prices by around 3 times the amount.
I know you thought that the "elephant turd" was a crappy accessory, but honestly if I had that as a kid I would have been really excited to do it up with paint and flock. It's a nice introduction into making model scenery if you use your imagination
This was my first train set, I got it long time ago for Christmas and I have so many fond memories of it. The play value, as you said, is great, but what I found far more important is the fact that this set offers gateway to railway modelling. Even though I was too young to really help with modelling, my father created nice and simple little model (I think it was mostly grass), turned that elephant turd into a hill with a tunnel and a little stream in that so called valley, bought additional tracks and switch tracks, fixed everything on a piece of plywood and I had an almost portable model railway. Thank you for reminding me of it, I think this set offers far more than it shows. Cheers from Slovenia!
When my brother was young, mum bought him the cheapest farmyard set you could ever imagine. There was a shepherd figure - grossly out of scale to the hut that came with him - with some horses and sheep, all of which were out of scale to each other etc. The number of hours he spent playing with it all is indescribable. So much so that when mum found, by chance, one of the farm figures decades later, mum had tears in her eyes at the happy memories. Including having to make things like you have to, in the same way. I can see this set being similar - amazing play value.
@@SamsTrains en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soo_Line_Railroad The Soo Line is indeed real and those hoppers, although in bright colours, are also prototypical and don't look too dissimilar to the Walthers detailed 4 bay hoppers. I'd say that the grey cylinders are supposed to be steel coils, a weathering and detailing job could give you a great train with everything you have there. Edit: I believe the loco is based on an Alco century engine, rather than an EMD SD40-2
@Ethan D If you go by foamer logic then yes UP does suck, however in the real world you use actual logic and if you are looking for a railroad career UP is the cream of the crop, next is BNSF, then KCS, then Amtrak, then NS and finally CSX for obvious reasons and this is just class A I am on about. There are plenty of class B railroads that are awesome to work for as well . Deciding what railroad is largely demographic based though and depends on if you are willing to relocate or not.
The wagon load is actually underground pipe cut to size, and SOO line is an American railroad that ran in the midwest (Iowa, Illinois, etc that is now bankrupt) We still see SOO Line freight cars to this day that haven't been repainted yet. Many of they are from the 1970's old stock but still rolling.
@@Ranger0463 The Alco’s were retired from the UP and SP rosters mostly in the 1980’s when new GE’s and EMD’s came on the lines for the most part for by 1996 when the UP-SP merger happened it was just EMD’s and GE’s and maybe a few small manufacturers or rebuilders Locomotives on the two respective lines. Alco’s and MLW’s still ran on Canadian Railway’s up through the 1990’s but all the U.S. Class 1 one Railroad’s had retired their Alco’s in 1980’s. While Alco’s and MLW’s definitely went to many Shortlines and a few Regional Rail operations up through the 21st Century of course ! And The Museums Too !
probably written by someone who has english as a second language. i challenge xenon to translate 'freight train' in to any eastern european language. or any other language for that matter.
My uncle who worked his entire life for the Frisco Railroad used to say, "You can't spell stupid without UP when referring to the Union Pacific Railroad...
To get a child for Christmas it's perfect. if they really like the hobby you can get something more expensive at a later date and if not you haven't spent a lot of money.
Yeah, that's exactly what's missing in the model railroad world, cheap, simple, affordable entry sets for kids to play and have fun with. Children that are just getting started don't need the best detailing or the most advanced digital technology, they just want something to play and have fun with.
From photos I've seen, the Soo Line Quad Hoppers were usually white with red lettering. Soo Line mainline locomotives were painted red or white with red nose.
@@SamsTrains On the yellow with blue considerable amount of creative license. On the green and white, if you change the railroad to Burlington Northern, then you have a little more merit as they had green and white freight cars. Also while the Soo may be nothing more than a paper railroad in the Canadian Pacific Railway system in current times, you can still see some of the old paint rolling thru here in the states.
I notice both quad hoppers have the same number on them, even though they're different colours. :) An image search for Soo Line Quad Hopper shows plenty of brown ones, white or light grey ones. But no green or yellow. But for the money you save on the set, those bothered by this will have enough change to buy some paint. lol!
Sorry Sam but when I was still at school I bought an Airfix railbus kit and acting on a suggestion of a reviewer in a magazine by utilising a rocket motor I motorised it by fitting a stick around the axle of metals wheels that I fitted to the kit. I glued the motor onto the floor and applied some glue to the shaft of the motor. I had to buy a box of small elastic band to go around the motor and the axle with the twig . A couple of bits of single core wire was used for pick ups. Now it is very fast at 12 volts and will do 240 mph/15 seconds scale speed around a circuit of 1 scale mile. That layout was exhibited 2 years running at the MRC exhibition in London. The layout was.constructed by the Crawley Model Railway Society. I was a member and the layout was put up in the club room were I used to run my rail bus. That was about 63 years ago when I was mates with Rodney Stenning and Gordon Gravit. Can I challenge you at 12 volts.Bye from Ian Cooper?
Thank you so much for posting this. As a teenager I had a train layout but then life happens. Yesterday I looked into starting again but there is this thingy called budget...I saw Mehano on a certain selling site but never heard of it. Your review helped me very much, I'm buying one.
This is a self-contained set aimed I would say at (approx) 6-9 yr olds, and as described by Sam it completely fills the bill. No need to quibble about lack of detail, steel track, elephant turd etc., it's not supposed to be an accurate scale model, but it offers enormous play value and learning skills to its intended market, and equally important, appears to be functional and pretty well built for its purpose. If I can get hold of it, my 6yr old grandson will be getting one for Christmas - just the job! I often take him to Chesterfield (Derbys) station to watch the trains, this set doesn't look like anything he's seen there, he's not old enough (like Sam) to have heard of Soo Line, but he won't care!
Mehano used to be Mehanotehnika, the main Yugoslavia's train model factory. It became in 1991. Mehano and worked until 2008 in Slovenia. They moved the production in 2010 in China. And this is a Chinese made set. I can't over that, as a I kid, I destroyed a Mehanotehnika set. Which was second hand, but... But... Haunts me today! They used to made some fine trains!
That western set looks interesting (although you didn't link to that one). This is what hornby should be doing to get children into the hobby at £50 you get more value than the nearest priced hornby set, where as Hornby release a bundle at £200 for the lockdown.
As someone interested in models but also a student, I really appreciate you reviewing cheap/budget stuff in addition to the more 'standard' locos and sets, even if some of it is elephant dung!
Ok, that is NOT an SD40. Looks to be a U-Boat of some kind, or some alco locomotive from the 60s. Now, on the opposite end of the spectrum, get a scaletrains rivet counter locomotive. Insane amount of detail on one of those.
I've noticed Alco had oddly spaced axles on their C+C bogies. Looking at my Bachman SD70AC and an ICH Premier AlCo Century 628, I can see the EMD has evenly spaced axles, where as the AlCo has a bigger space between 2nd and 3rd axle.
@@CardboardSliver This was done back then to keep the traction motors inside of the locomotive truck (bogie), where the axles are furthest apart the traction motors face each other.
I've never heard of them "Mehano" but it was brilliant to watch. I'm 67 and just getting into model trains. Only been a few months into model trains but it's so addictive and so much money, I'm having a blast. Fulfilling my childhood dreams
Sam, love your videos. Yeah this is not an SD-40 dash 2. . Its either an Alco Century C-630 or a General Electric U33-C. The U-33 series are what we chaps in the states nickname "U-Boats" dont know why, but its what we call them. Also generally the -2 or Dash Two means it was upgraded to better electronics / motors etc. Similar to a Supermarine Spitfire Mk 1 is an early version and a Mk4 is a later more improved version. GP in front of a diesel stands for "General Purpose" Whilst SD designates "Special Duty" i.e. 3 axles or what you call Co-Co ... keep up the terrific work. Love the vids...
I really like that! With a repaint, the wagons could look really smart, and a bit of weathering would make that loco rather convincing. The little set is fantastic value for money :)
£50 or so for something that an 8 year old will be ALL OVER is pretty good. And despite you referring to the oversized scenery chunk as the "elephant turd", 8 year olds are going to have HUGE amounts of fun turning that into a piece of grassy hill with a stream. Remember that Blue Peter got a LOT of mileage from persuading kids to build all sorts of things from cardboard bog roll tubes and suchlike, and this brings back some memories of watching those episodes :) 6 to 9 year old kids will have a blast with this, especially if their parents are happy to let them get messy with glue and paint on the "elephant turd" :D
My first train set (Christmas 1978) was an HO Model Power Canadian National freight set (made by Mehanotechnika in Yugoslavia for Model Power, with the exception of the caboose, which was made by Roco) featuring an Alco RS-11. I still have the loco and it still runs.
Thanks for a great review! I had Mehano trains as a kid since 1980.s. At that time still in former Yugoslavia ,Mehano was called Mehanotehnika (existing since 1950 s) .They made a very nice affordable train sets and also export them a lot in the USA or UK too...Today in Slovenia ,EU, Mehano produce starter sets like this one but also more expensive and more high detailed digital locos too.😊
That is an amazing price. Even in CAD it's a heck of a good deal. Now I have been to Maheno's webstore now and then and writing up my shopping list. Their webstore is a bit clunky as they do not seem to list DC/DCC powered stuff separate from the AC powered stuff.
Man this looks very nice👍 I really like the locomotive and the waggons. The value is so good, much better than the Hornby Juniors train. Maybe adding some weights to the loco will make the power even better. I''m definitely looking forward of buying one. The AWD is amazing and my favourite feature. Great review, Sam
Hope you enjoy creating your new pieces of scenery. Can now wait to see more videos like this about the different railway items available. Love hearing the history of the class.
I had one of those as a kid , almost the same , 2m track steel ,4 wagons , santa fe on main loko . 1 motor with driven shafts to each wheels with full gear box inside. Control box was ran by 2x4,5vlots and that was bad. I even than changed it to run on wall adaptor . Watching your channel and smt mainline bring s bac memories and now i want to go and get new loco ...
It was what seduce me to buy too one set from Mehano , the Spanish AVE with a metal chassis loco, two cars and one fake loco, same controler and metal railway lines in Amazon for about that same price. I think it worth it too! Of course i made some improvements like real pantrografs, digitalization, ilumination and a set of spare 3 cars. It's like a bargain and some modeling work together!
It's worth noting that the controller is AC and the supplied power supply is also AC (obviously!). I have a few of these and I really like the way they work particularly on my N gauge layout.
@@SamsTrains Unboxing electric Locomotive EP09 Unboxing SM42. This two models trains no Bachmann no Hornby this two trains models from company PIKO Please.
Great video Sam the train set is a good deal but it is not available in The USA I wish it was . Thank You for keeping us entertained during this times of not being able to go out.
Union Pacific has a licensing division that decides if a company is allowed to use their likeness on models and toys. I'm pretty sure that Mehano hasn't been in touch with them...as an aside, Mehano made HO gauge models (locomotives and cars) for Atlas in the 1970's and 1980's. I'll bet someone in Serbia found the tooling in the back room and started cranking out new ones again 🤣
@@theodorelease8477 true, considering that you can get a trainset quality model from Bachmann, with EZ-track and Bachmann's own Kadee coupler clones, for around $100
I have a Mehano train set from 1994 that was made for President's Choice it's a 2-8-2 Mikado steam locomotive and I got it used at a flea market and it's really nice for who it was made for and still works great today
Mehano was sort of a "every ones got one" here in the states. Although pretty much no one realize it. Because of the company eastern European heritage, remember, this was still the tail end of the cold war, It decided to market its products to established train manufactures that sold their products in the US. Everyone for AHM to Bachman to Model especially, repackaged and sold some or all of their models. They were great pullers despite the little 3 pole motor's, as they had all wheel drive by this point. I had a gp18 when I was a kid that was sold via Bachmann, I did not know it was a Mehano at that time. I always like it because it was about to pull huge trains. When I started installing DCC decoders, About 12 years ago, I used some of these models, from the likes of AHM as my early attempts. I was highly impressed by how well they put together for what they were.
Hi Sam..a brilliant review..I'm really tempted to get one of these...the Elephant turd LOL..you could incorporate in your own layout and maybe paint it or add some scatter and bushes...or maybe not, having looked at again, lol
I actually bought the locomotive itself from Amazon for $28 (yes, I’m American) back in 2020. It was, for a good amount of time, my largest operable diesel locomotive. It was that way until earlier this year when I purchased a Bachmann SD40-2 With dcc and sounds from the real NS 3430 for an astounding $178. It replaced the mehano c630 as my largest diesel. I later sold it off after I converted to DCC.
President’s Choice, a grocery store chain here in Canada, featured almost a dozen train sets released around Christmas time over several years. The engines were decorated in Canadian liveries while the freight cars were either painted in authentic Canadian markings or had PC products featured on the sides of the freight cars. Two of the sets were diesel while the rest were steam powered. Mehano and later IHC (International Hobby Corporation) produced the train sets. The same transformer in your set was included in the sets as well. I would highly recommend you take a look at these interesting sets and even the buildings that were produced to go with them.
SOO Line is an old railroad in the US, which it’s territory is now owned by the Canadian Pacific Railway. I used to work that territory in North Dakota, and would run freight trains up to the Canadian border for interchange
Menaho also produces a starter set with G1206 locomotive, and the locomotive has a freaking speaker! And a DCC socket! And a metal chassis! And lots of not-molded details like metal railings and horns. And some wagons in that starter set even have metal wheels. It costs around $100, but still cheap. I have one and am absolutely amazed by the quality of the loco. But the rails are still steel.
I bought a Mehano French outline train set for a small nephew a few years ago. Funnily enough it contained an SNCF B-B 67000 diesel just like your Lima 0 gauge one. I remember being pretty impressed given the price. The loco was quite good as I recall and I improved the rolling stock by adding some extra weight. This lot would be quite nice with some extra weight and some very serious weathering... The loco will probably be better once it's well run in.
The Union Pacific number 3222 belongs to an UP EMD (General Motors Electro-Motive Division. [Later: Electro-Motive Diesel ]) SD40-2 but the loco model in the kit is an ALCO (American Locomotive Co.) Century 628. ALCOs have those distinctive rear corners on the long hood and on front hoods on "High Hoods". This is a Low Hood for better forward visibility.
Hi Sam! I've had a similar Mehano set as a kid, two actually. A Thalys set and a Boston & Maine diesel cargo set. The little plasic things in the bag at 11:09 are for clicking the tracks together. You don't really need them (as you show too, you didn't use them) but they can come in handy for kids. I recently found out that both trains I have still run after having been stowed away for more than ten years. The Mehano quality is amazing. I now use the tracks of these sets to run a more expensive Roco locomotive, an 1100 series from the Dutch National Railways.
That sounds pretty cool mate - thanks for letting me know what those clips were for - sounds good for keeping everything together actually! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Those Mehano controllers are quite impressive indeed. I own a couple of them. They're based around an LM317 linear regulator. You can mod them by adding a TO-220 heatsink to the regulator itself. This increases the current output of the controller to around 1 amp continuous and 1.5 peak (!). One of my controllers is modded this way and it handles my old clunky Spanish Ibertren models (which absolutely devour power) no problem at all.
I've had 4 Mehano train sets as a kid. I didn't know for better than Mehano because in Croatia it's all we had, mostly sold as kids toys in various stores. Cheap and plastic but I gotta say pretty reliable for the price. Mehano is an old company from ex. Yugoslavia and now it's in Slovenia today. I still kind of miss having a train set to play with. I donated my last train set to my high school where I was in a team to make a small model railway layout. It was an Burlington Northern Alco C628 with a crane and boom tender, hopper car and a caboose. Yup and I'm a train engineer today! :) Trains were always my passion.
Its once again one of those recommended videos at 3 AM, i was never into railways as a whole, but i can say that i enjoyed this review, even though i aint going to buy it or anything. It reminded me of my train set when i was i child, and i still cant believe how much fun i had with one locomotive and few cargo vagons! Thank you for this well structured content. I regard people doing this, playing a mastermind behind a small world. I cant imagine doing it my self, but watching it is very, very satisfying.
Here in Canada, Mehano train sets were marketed under the President's Choice brand and were sold in supermarkets around Christmas for around $70. They had a steam locomotive and around 5 freight cars and a large oval of track, though the loco was the only decent part of it. Sadly, they haven't been made for years but they can be found for sale online for much higher prices.
The first high side wooden wagon is DR or DB early 50s. The Tubes are concrete sewer/stormwater/culvert pipes. The Soo line cars are US standard Hoppers ( Coal, Gravel, even Grain, with Tarpaulins/ fibreglass roofing. SOO LINE was a Class 1 rail company, Central Northern USA. Sam, you should expand your Knowledge outside your insular 00-UK - 1/76 outlook, which actually is quite good for those of that ilk. Doc AV
Never in my years, have I ever been disappointed by a Mehano locomotive (need to procure their TGV & ICE high speed sets, sometime!). Owning one of these ALCO C628 locos, I am most grateful to see you're pleased. God's Speed to you, and keep Uncle Pete's ALCOs rolling!
Hi Sam i don't know if it is already said. But the things on the spruce is just for locking the track together. Had one of these sets myself several years ago.
the Locomotive is actually a ALco C628 they were built in the 1960s altho ALco went out in 1968 but they kept producton by MLW (montreal locomotive works) they also came out in wide cabs in the 1980s with the MLW M420W which was made in 1973. then more variants with the M636 and the M640 which the difference would be that the bell would be in the front of the cab most railways in the US and canada owned these locomotives... untill MLW went out of business
Looks like the trains my local toy store and hobby store used to sell back when they were still in business! My first “modern”-inspired toy train was an EMD Geep, three or four freight cars, and a caboose all in brightly painted metal. Took me back a ways. Thanks for showing us!
Amazing value! Yes, as others say, that loco and wagons would look much less like plastic toys with some good weathering - perhaps add a caboose to the consist? The 'elephant poo' could look really good after painting and grasses, bushes and trees etc. are added
I love your enthusiasm Sam, it's inspiring. Super respectful and honest, much like the legend that is James May. This set is rather lovely, it almost makes me feel like a child again. I'd have no hesitation in purchasing this for my son's as a starter set. Thanks for the review Sam. Stay safe.
Mehano put out sets for a Canadian Grocery store. I have 2 of them they were about $99.00 cad in the early 2000s. One of mine is that bullet nosed 6060 that you reviewed, and the original tender was very like the one in the set. One of the locomotives also came with smoke liquid. The track looks identical. Another great video Sam. Thanks
Where I live in the United States I’m about 145 kilometers or 90 miles from the General Electric plant that builds the AC4400 Diesel Locomotive. Although I’ve never been to the plant they do show how their built on youtube if you decide to go to that site make sure you put in what locomotive you want to see because there’s a few sites on their that show how these things are made. When I watched the video which was a few years ago the said they cost around 1.6 million pounds or $2,000,000 million dollars for one locomotive and should last about 25 years. They recently built another plant in Texas, U.S.A. so that they could keep up in production.
Man, I wish we had these in america! Most cheap train sets are battery powered, as SMT mentioned, and have plastic track that can't be expanded, as they usually come in circles. And the next level up is a 100 dollar set by bachman, and all you get is just the EZ track, and a train, and of course the transformer. I think this would do wonders for anyone wanting to try out the model railroad hobby, as all you need is a basic train and a sense of imagination.
I've had two Mehano locomotives, they used to be sold in North America under the "IHC" name and before IHC by Pemco and AHM. They are very basic in detail, but very reliable runners that will last forever and make good budget locomotives.
Interesting review. Thanks Sam. You might be interested to know that the Soo Line was originally a subsidiary of a Canadian Company. In the early 1900's, There were serious problems building track north of Lake Superior. The Soo line connected two sections of track in Canada by going south of Lake Superior which means going through the USA. The name comes from the connection between the cities of Soo St Marie and Winnipeg. The line created a vital connection to Western Canada for goods ( and other more controversial items). i.e. Canadian troops were moved through the USA to react to a rebellion in 1904. I have driven the length of the original Soo Line. The bridges etc still say Soo Line. I am not sure if the Soo Line is still owned by Canadian Pacific Railways.
Hi Sam. Have received my own set today. Although, like you, I could hear things rattling inside, when I opened the box, everything was in apple pie order! There were no breakages on the loco, the wagons were neatly arranged in the box as was the track. The size of the curves differs to those of Hornby, Peco etc as three of them equate to two of Hornby etc. Interestingly, the radius is 3rd, amazingly, as I did a comparison, laying the Mehano track on top of the Hornby. Yep, it's 3rd radius. A 3 pin wall transformer easily plugs into the controller, so no problem there. Even the elephant calling card seems ok! The inner packaging was intact, no splits or tears anywhere. Even though this is clearly an inexpensive set, I thnk I shall have a lot of fun with it. You can get extra rolling stock via the Mehano website if desired. Overall, I am pleasantly surprised. Am awaiting the Ouigo speed train set from Mehano, should arrive tomorrow. There are other speed train sets available too. Seriously Sam, I'm impressed. A project: how to exchange the current couplings for nem couplings. Any ideas? Best, Pete.
Blimey Pete, sorry to hear that - at least there were no breakages though! Great that it's 3rd radius though, I'm impressed with that! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Hi Sam, nothing to be sorry about.....?! The set was just fine. Do you have any ideas about changing the couplings? I also noticed that the plug on the controller that fits into the power track piece is screwed on. It will be interesting to see what it's like inside, once the casing is unscrewed and taken off. We might be able to plug it directly into a Hornby power track piece, for instance. Pete.
Hi Sam..enjoyed the video. Thank you! The Locomotive is an Alco Century C628(The trucks/bogies give it away). Yes..a matter of fact,I have operated a Mehano made Locomotive (Life-Like Brand). Bought it in 1992,from the local Toys R Us store( back when the store stocked good stuff) It was a good runner.. equipped with a 'Can Motor' ..ran good. Having no traction tyres/tires...I added a little lead weight on the chassis...and it could pull a really long train.. putting other much heavier, traction tyred Locomotives to shame. I had loads of fun with it.
Although this is more ‘plasticky’ remember this is a kids train set. We used to be a dealer for Mehano and I found their stuff amazing - again, they don’t pay attention to detail in terms of liveries for various railroads but a more experienced modeller can fix them up nicely in a project. The locos motors are strong and quiet. We sometimes had problems with the controllers but I think that happens with any manufacturer.
Hey sam i have a union Pacific dash 8-40c(narrow nose) from bachmann spectrum series ( my photo on the right of the comment ) and the slow moving have impacted me because it looks like stopped but two minutes after it have moved some centimeter but only works on DCC current and is my neighbor loco mine is the same engine and the same serie but in DC and it have a lot of problems on turns of 420°
That is an Alco. No doubt. A C628 I have the original Mehano 1980s version in Lehigh Valley scheme running for years on my layout. Very powerful HO engine with a good solid motor. The prototype were originally built for heavy coal trains.
Re the couplers and drawgear - in my experience with Mehano, you can replace the Euro couplers with Kadee or other knuckle couplers, but it does involve dismantling the bogies.
By default, I own two Mehano locomotives. To my dismay, the Mogul runs like a Swiss watch and looks fairly decent. The diesel, GP 40, actually runs decently, not a crawler, but holds its own at speed, and the wagons that went with it are quite pleasing to the eye and stay on the rails.
The locomotive is not actually an EMD SD40-2 but rather an ALCO (American Locomotive Company) C-628 and the Soo Line was a real American railroad. The Soo Line cars are a typical American hopper car used to transport stone, coal and other various similar items. The items that were on the sprues that you were unsure about are clips for the track to help better keep it together.
Seeing inside that locomotive I see a good place for a custom build. Get rid of the toy-like carbody, repower it, throw a bunch of tungsten putty in there around the driveshafts, 3D print a body of your own, and you've got one hell of a puller. Also easy to rig for DCC if you wanted to.
Hi Sam, You are absolutely right that things need to be packaged properly, since many items are shipped air-mail, which means that they fly through the air into the shipping bin. PS - My friends and I who have N Scale trains, here in Canada, nearly always use that kind of controller, with the built-in clicky-switch at zero. Brilliant :-)
Mehano company was one of the best toy factory in Yugoslavia, but back them it was called Mehanotehnika. I have a lot of Mehanotehnika H0 trains. Some of locomotives are old around 50 years and they stil work like new. They were producing model trains for a lot of Amreican companies like AHM, IHC, TYCO...
Wow! As a kid, I've started with a MEHANO starter set like this. This was about 15-18 years ago. Good to see, that they are still making theese cheap sets. I know they are more like toys, than serious models, but that's it's benefit. If gets broken by the kid or something, you won't bother.
On my 10th birthday, after years and years of asking my parents for a train set I got a Mehano train set which is pretty basic, it's the loco (a GP18 in an SNFC livery) +3 cars (and the tracks and controller of course) so the box was much smaller as it got no buildings nor mountains and such. After it, I went with other brands like Athearn, Atlas, etc as Mehano is quite strange in Mexico, but anyway, it's a great starter kit for someone with a low budget and the quality is really good for the price (still got everything after 15 years except for a car). Also, it is ideal for someone who wants to experiment with detailing and weathering. Nice video, I subscribe!.
Its just nearly the same technics as in my Mehano TGV Thalys. I got my TGV Thalys in a starterset too but a bit older then yours. It still runs fine with also a DIY light job done by me! The Mehano remote is indeed a really good one! I use them as daily drivers on my layout and they do the job really well! I'm really happy with them! :D Accept for that a month ago one of the two broke because for some reason when I plugged it in the power, it went rightaway to 100%+ for some reason. I scared the shit outta me because my old girl (Fleischmann br 01) went flying around the track and I just couldn't stop it! I needed to plug the power out and then the train stopped... I opened the remote it up, but nothing special was seen... I threw it away and bought a new second hand one on the internet for 5 euro's and that one is now doing its job nicely on my layout!
Awesome review. The locomotive looks to be a former AHM tooling. The set reminds of the Tyco and Life Like electric HO scale train sets seen here in the states.
That locomotive is actually an ALCO C628. Back in the day each builder had their own unique styling, the big giveaway that it's ALCO are the clipped corners where the number boards go, and the Century series all had the stubby short hood on the front (its where they keep tools and spares as well as the toilet). They were built from 1963 up until shortly before ALCO went out of business in 1969 but fortunately some of them are still in service today.
@@SamsTrains Style was important even in freight service. You could easily tell the difference between ALCO, EMD, Baldwin, Fairbanks-Morse, and later GE. And I was mistaken the C628 there are only 3 survivors, two in Mexico and one in Australia, but other Century-series locomotives are still in service.
As with most models one can always add more details. Also it would not hurt to add weight to the locomotive to create more traction. As a kid, I was given a TYCO electric train and it quit working within a week. It was $19.99 at Toys R Us. After seeing the inside of this locomotive, I believe it will actually function properly for a while.
I bought the same set 10 years ago and had the same locomotive back in 1980s. This loco has some issues with its steering. In knows to get stuck in left or right position. I remember that i did fix it somehow. As a kid i had lots of mehano sets.
This looks ideal for a five year old. If they don't take to it, the price isn't too much to swallow, but if they do, it looks to be compatible with code 100 track, so can easily be extended. It's the sort of thing that Tri-ang used to make in the 1950s and 1960s.
I picked up (this week) a Roco H0 start set on offer from Scograil for £49.95. They still have one listed with a small Shunter at the same pric My set has a Br.290 which is excellent - worth the price alone!
A Roco train set with road bed track, a simply detailed but powerful locomotive and two cars for under £50 will aesthetically and functionally please an officianado more than Mehano - seriously. Mehano Train Sets, on the other hand, do put Hornby to shame! Unfortunately, the concept of a cheap Bachmann (UK) Train Set just does not exist in 2020
I have that controller with my almost 20 year old Mehano President's Choice set. I use it. It replaced my almost 30 year old one recently. Cont'd. Soo line, I'm sure others have mentioned by now, is Minneapolis, St Paul, Sault St Marie line. It is owned by CN or CP...
Hi Sam, A have a top of the range Mehano HO Diesel Co-Co Type 51 of the Belgian Railways NMBS/ SNCB. In fact I've put a TTS class 60 decoder in - was DCC ready and plug & play - real easy. 5 Pole motor. Smooth and reliable runner and pulls the socket out of the wall... Must be 10 years young now but as good as new. Very pleased with, although the sound is 'thin'. Guess I'll replace the (poor) speaker for a Mega Bass. Mehano produced a lot of HO loco's for the US market - maybe still do... Was fun to watch - thanks for sharing & greetings.
I've got two mehano TGVs. It was probably better to buy a pair for €200 than a single one for €250. I can't complain, it serves it's purpose and they sell add-on carriages via proper model railway stores to make a full set at a very modest price.
@@SamsTrains They've got an all-metal chassis for the powered unit, but no lights The motor's a tiny bit noisier but still works fine and the noise is well within the range of what's acceptable. I got the Inoui and Ouigo ones, the printing (admittedly quite complex) on the Ouigo one is a tad rough but then they are supposed to be large pink circles. They do come in a matt finish though, all it needs is a bit of weathering around the running gear and it will be fine.
Looking at this model much closely, its definitely one of the many six-axle "U-boats" GE built in the 60s, same goes for the Santa Fe and Canadian National diesels you got from the previous video I commented on, since unlike the C30-7, theres no buldge in the carbody just before the radiator. Now whether its a U25c, U30c, U33c or U36c depends on how much of hauler it is since GE model numbers always represent the horsepower of the locomotive.
Hey Folks - the loco in the video isn't a SD40-2, it's an Alco C-628 (or something similar!), and Soo Line is a real company! Thanks to everyone for letting me know!
It is an Union Pacific Alco
Thank you! :D
Sam'sTrains they’re all scale models as well
I was just about to comment the real name
THE BIG BOY WAS ALCO! I did a full on project on that.
This is fantastic, an actual affordable train set! I miss when these used to be more common, these are the sets that bring people into the hobby and as a result I think they're very important. Most of these starter sets today are all battery powered, I can't tell you how happy I am to see an actual electric one. Maybe I'm overly excited but this seems really good and I think I might get one my self.
haha I know - it's a shame they're not more common :(
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I know what mean smt mainline, I still have the bachmann challenger set with e-z track. I restarted my interest in model trains, with two starter sets, and second hand track from an antique shop.
Oh hi there
@@moisesm9602 Hey
@Joel Chandler Exactly, I don't think most families can cough up $250 for a train set. Even in the 2000s bachmann and lifelike were still making budget friendly sets. Now life like is gone and bachmann has raised their prices by around 3 times the amount.
I know you thought that the "elephant turd" was a crappy accessory, but honestly if I had that as a kid I would have been really excited to do it up with paint and flock. It's a nice introduction into making model scenery if you use your imagination
that’s exactly what i was thinking. the craft abilities
This was my first train set, I got it long time ago for Christmas and I have so many fond memories of it. The play value, as you said, is great, but what I found far more important is the fact that this set offers gateway to railway modelling. Even though I was too young to really help with modelling, my father created nice and simple little model (I think it was mostly grass), turned that elephant turd into a hill with a tunnel and a little stream in that so called valley, bought additional tracks and switch tracks, fixed everything on a piece of plywood and I had an almost portable model railway. Thank you for reminding me of it, I think this set offers far more than it shows. Cheers from Slovenia!
That's awesome - the play value is awesome, and you're right - you can expand it if desired! :D
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When my brother was young, mum bought him the cheapest farmyard set you could ever imagine. There was a shepherd figure - grossly out of scale to the hut that came with him - with some horses and sheep, all of which were out of scale to each other etc. The number of hours he spent playing with it all is indescribable. So much so that when mum found, by chance, one of the farm figures decades later, mum had tears in her eyes at the happy memories.
Including having to make things like you have to, in the same way. I can see this set being similar - amazing play value.
haha really?! That sounds nightmarish, lol!! Some of these basic toys are often the best - I'd agree with that!
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Sam: Doesn't know something about this set
Americans: Now this looks like a job for me
haha you're not half right!! xD
@@SamsTrains en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soo_Line_Railroad
The Soo Line is indeed real and those hoppers, although in bright colours, are also prototypical and don't look too dissimilar to the Walthers detailed 4 bay hoppers. I'd say that the grey cylinders are supposed to be steel coils, a weathering and detailing job could give you a great train with everything you have there.
Edit: I believe the loco is based on an Alco century engine, rather than an EMD SD40-2
Sam: doesn't know something about this set
Americans: hold my beer
Ethan D CP doesn’t technically exist in the United States. Although all reporting marks are CP
@Ethan D If you go by foamer logic then yes UP does suck, however in the real world you use actual logic and if you are looking for a railroad career UP is the cream of the crop, next is BNSF, then KCS, then Amtrak, then NS and finally CSX for obvious reasons and this is just class A I am on about. There are plenty of class B railroads that are awesome to work for as well .
Deciding what railroad is largely demographic based though and depends on if you are willing to relocate or not.
The wagon load is actually underground pipe cut to size, and SOO line is an American railroad that ran in the midwest (Iowa, Illinois, etc that is now bankrupt) We still see SOO Line freight cars to this day that haven't been repainted yet. Many of they are from the 1970's old stock but still rolling.
Thanks very much for the info mate - appreciate it! :D
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@@SamsTrains Put this in the "Search Box" :> Soo Line GP38-2 switching and roaring in run 8 EMD 16-645
@TRAIN FANATIC 1200 lol thanks for watching
Soo line is now part of CP rail
That's about 96 inch pipe. I never see it that big. You're essentially burying a river at that point and hauling that stuff is most of the cost.
It’s an ALCo C-628, one of the most beautiful diesel locomotives ever made in my opinion
Ahh thanks a lot for letting me know! :D
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Interesting to note that UP had Alco C-630 units . Not sure f they had the 628
@@railroadmike6843 They did not, unless they got them when they absorbed SP, and SP had a few of theirs from long ago still laying around.
I personally think they're kinda fugly
@@Ranger0463 The Alco’s were retired from the UP and SP rosters mostly in the 1980’s when new GE’s and EMD’s came on the lines for the most part for by 1996 when the
UP-SP merger happened it was just EMD’s and GE’s and maybe a few small manufacturers or rebuilders Locomotives on the two respective lines.
Alco’s and MLW’s still ran on Canadian Railway’s up through the 1990’s but all the U.S. Class 1 one Railroad’s had retired their Alco’s in 1980’s.
While Alco’s and MLW’s definitely went to many Shortlines and a few Regional Rail operations up through the 21st Century of course !
And The Museums Too !
“Cargo Train”, most creative name ever.
haha - someone must have spent hours on that name ;)
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probably written by someone who has english as a second language. i challenge xenon to translate 'freight train' in to any eastern european language. or any other language for that matter.
Must of took 10 years
@@raymondo162 Should I use Google Translate for this?
That is so creative
My uncle who worked his entire life for the Frisco Railroad used to say, "You can't spell stupid without UP when referring to the Union Pacific Railroad...
haha that's brilliant Ron - I'll have to remember that one! xD
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@@SamsTrains is the train HO Scale?
@@Eastkentuckysirensandtrains Yeah it is.
To get a child for Christmas it's perfect. if they really like the hobby you can get something more expensive at a later date and if not you haven't spent a lot of money.
Yeah you're right - it'd definitely give them the bug! :D
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Perfect for this.. or for an old guy's first trainset
Yeah, that's exactly what's missing in the model railroad world, cheap, simple, affordable entry sets for kids to play and have fun with. Children that are just getting started don't need the best detailing or the most advanced digital technology, they just want something to play and have fun with.
For a local train....that motor (alco) is really dated.........in real life it would be a gp40 4 axle
From photos I've seen, the Soo Line Quad Hoppers were usually white with red lettering. Soo Line mainline locomotives were painted red or white with red nose.
Ahh interesting - maybe a bit of creative license went on there then?!
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@@SamsTrains On the yellow with blue considerable amount of creative license. On the green and white, if you change the railroad to Burlington Northern, then you have a little more merit as they had green and white freight cars. Also while the Soo may be nothing more than a paper railroad in the Canadian Pacific Railway system in current times, you can still see some of the old paint rolling thru here in the states.
I notice both quad hoppers have the same number on them, even though they're different colours. :)
An image search for Soo Line Quad Hopper shows plenty of brown ones, white or light grey ones. But no green or yellow. But for the money you save on the set, those bothered by this will have enough change to buy some paint. lol!
Open hoppers were oxide red. Grain hoppers were either white or silver.
They were white with black lettering not red and all locos were white and red
"I didn't include the big poo" ... "if you want to mess around with it you can"
*Yes review the steam!*
haha!! xD
Sorry Sam but when I was still at school I bought an Airfix railbus kit and acting on a suggestion of a reviewer in a magazine by utilising a rocket motor I motorised it by fitting a stick around the axle of metals wheels that I fitted to the kit. I glued the motor onto the floor and applied some glue to the shaft of the motor. I had to buy a box of small elastic band to go around the motor and the axle with the twig . A couple of bits of single core wire was used for pick ups. Now it is very fast at 12 volts and will do 240 mph/15 seconds scale speed around a circuit of 1 scale mile. That layout was exhibited 2 years running at the MRC exhibition in London. The layout was.constructed by the Crawley Model Railway Society. I was a member and the layout was put up in the club room were I used to run my rail bus. That was about 63 years ago when I was mates with Rodney Stenning and Gordon Gravit. Can I challenge you at 12 volts.Bye from Ian Cooper?
Thank you so much for posting this. As a teenager I had a train layout but then life happens.
Yesterday I looked into starting again but there is this thingy called budget...I saw Mehano on a certain selling site but never heard of it. Your review helped me very much, I'm buying one.
RUclips: I think you would want to see this
me: you must be kidding?
me, half an hour later: guess youtube was right...
haha thanks for watching! :D
Nice set to practice your painting and weathering skills on!
That's very true indeed Frank!
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My thought as well 😃
Not on shiny plastic.
@@MilwaukeeF40C A layer or two of matt varnish first.
This is a self-contained set aimed I would say at (approx) 6-9 yr olds, and as described by Sam it completely fills the bill. No need to quibble about lack of detail, steel track, elephant turd etc., it's not supposed to be an accurate scale model, but it offers enormous play value and learning skills to its intended market, and equally important, appears to be functional and pretty well built for its purpose. If I can get hold of it, my 6yr old grandson will be getting one for Christmas - just the job! I often take him to Chesterfield (Derbys) station to watch the trains, this set doesn't look like anything he's seen there, he's not old enough (like Sam) to have heard of Soo Line, but he won't care!
Mehano used to be Mehanotehnika, the main Yugoslavia's train model factory. It became in 1991. Mehano and worked until 2008 in Slovenia. They moved the production in 2010 in China. And this is a Chinese made set.
I can't over that, as a I kid, I destroyed a Mehanotehnika set.
Which was second hand, but... But... Haunts me today!
They used to made some fine trains!
That western set looks interesting (although you didn't link to that one). This is what hornby should be doing to get children into the hobby at £50 you get more value than the nearest priced hornby set, where as Hornby release a bundle at £200 for the lockdown.
I'll check that one out mate! I agree - this would be awesome from Hornby!
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As someone interested in models but also a student, I really appreciate you reviewing cheap/budget stuff in addition to the more 'standard' locos and sets, even if some of it is elephant dung!
Great to hear that mate - yes I love the bargain locos too! :D
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Ok, that is NOT an SD40. Looks to be a U-Boat of some kind, or some alco locomotive from the 60s.
Now, on the opposite end of the spectrum, get a scaletrains rivet counter locomotive. Insane amount of detail on one of those.
Thanks a lot William - based on the comments, I think you're right!
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ALCo C628, to be exact. A very cheap tooling of it lol
I agree re Scaletrains. Have a look at their stuff Sam and you'll consign your UK stuff straight in a skip. Over 800 parts on the HO scale UP Turbine
I've noticed Alco had oddly spaced axles on their C+C bogies. Looking at my Bachman SD70AC and an ICH Premier AlCo Century 628, I can see the EMD has evenly spaced axles, where as the AlCo has a bigger space between 2nd and 3rd axle.
@@CardboardSliver This was done back then to keep the traction motors inside of the locomotive truck (bogie), where the axles are furthest apart the traction motors face each other.
I've never heard of them "Mehano" but it was brilliant to watch. I'm 67 and just getting into model trains. Only been a few months into model trains but it's so addictive and so much money, I'm having a blast. Fulfilling my childhood dreams
Sam, love your videos. Yeah this is not an SD-40 dash 2. . Its either an Alco Century C-630 or a General Electric U33-C. The U-33 series are what we chaps in the states nickname "U-Boats" dont know why, but its what we call them. Also generally the -2 or Dash Two means it was upgraded to better electronics / motors etc. Similar to a Supermarine Spitfire Mk 1 is an early version and a Mk4 is a later more improved version. GP in front of a diesel stands for "General Purpose" Whilst SD designates "Special Duty" i.e. 3 axles or what you call Co-Co ... keep up the terrific work. Love the vids...
I really like that! With a repaint, the wagons could look really smart, and a bit of weathering would make that loco rather convincing. The little set is fantastic value for money :)
That's very true - it'd actually make for a great project! :D
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Someone needs to send him a nice E or F unit, I’d love to see him react to some more American locos
I'd love to see his reaction to a life-like trains layout lmao
£50 or so for something that an 8 year old will be ALL OVER is pretty good. And despite you referring to the oversized scenery chunk as the "elephant turd", 8 year olds are going to have HUGE amounts of fun turning that into a piece of grassy hill with a stream. Remember that Blue Peter got a LOT of mileage from persuading kids to build all sorts of things from cardboard bog roll tubes and suchlike, and this brings back some memories of watching those episodes :)
6 to 9 year old kids will have a blast with this, especially if their parents are happy to let them get messy with glue and paint on the "elephant turd" :D
My first train set (Christmas 1978) was an HO Model Power Canadian National freight set (made by Mehanotechnika in Yugoslavia for Model Power, with the exception of the caboose, which was made by Roco) featuring an Alco RS-11. I still have the loco and it still runs.
Ooh fantastic - glad to hear they last a good time! :D
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Thanks for a great review! I had Mehano trains as a kid since 1980.s. At that time still in former Yugoslavia ,Mehano was called Mehanotehnika (existing since 1950 s) .They made a very nice affordable train sets and also export them a lot in the USA or UK too...Today in Slovenia ,EU, Mehano produce starter sets like this one but also more expensive and more high detailed digital locos too.😊
That is an amazing price. Even in CAD it's a heck of a good deal. Now I have been to Maheno's webstore now and then and writing up my shopping list. Their webstore is a bit clunky as they do not seem to list DC/DCC powered stuff separate from the AC powered stuff.
Thanks a lot Den - I agree, lol!! Ahh okay, I'll have to be careful with that too then!
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Man this looks very nice👍 I really like the locomotive and the waggons. The value is so good, much better than the Hornby Juniors train. Maybe adding some weights to the loco will make the power even better. I''m definitely looking forward of buying one. The AWD is amazing and my favourite feature. Great review, Sam
haha thanks a lot mate - I really did too - very impressed with this one! :D
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Well Sam, you have managed to clear amazon uk’s stocks with this review. the only one showing this evening is from Poland at £161.00!
haha I know - they all went really quick!! Hopefully they'll get more in stock soon!
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Hope you enjoy creating your new pieces of scenery. Can now wait to see more videos like this about the different railway items available. Love hearing the history of the class.
haha thanks Luke - yes I'll definitely do more one day! :D
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I had one of those as a kid , almost the same , 2m track steel ,4 wagons , santa fe on main loko . 1 motor with driven shafts to each wheels with full gear box inside. Control box was ran by 2x4,5vlots and that was bad. I even than changed it to run on wall adaptor . Watching your channel and smt mainline bring s bac memories and now i want to go and get new loco ...
Yay at last a review I thought you’d given up on making reviews
haha nooo - of course not!! :D
Never gonna give it up, never gonna let subscribers down
The gondola has a brakewheel!
Huzzah!
Edit: Oh wait all the freight cars have brakewheels. Even better!
haha I know right!! xD
Great video Sam it is an ok price just wish it had some British stock in it instead if American
Same here
Thanks David - ooh better get yourself some British models ;)
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It was what seduce me to buy too one set from Mehano , the Spanish AVE with a metal chassis loco, two cars and one fake loco, same controler and metal railway lines in Amazon for about that same price. I think it worth it too! Of course i made some improvements like real pantrografs, digitalization, ilumination and a set of spare 3 cars. It's like a bargain and some modeling work together!
Ooh fantastic - I'll have to look that one up!! Sounds cool!! :D
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It's worth noting that the controller is AC and the supplied power supply is also AC (obviously!). I have a few of these and I really like the way they work particularly on my N gauge layout.
Awesome, tho honestly looks like something from when my dad was a kid
haha yeah me too!! ;D
@@SamsTrains
Unboxing electric Locomotive EP09
Unboxing SM42.
This two models trains no Bachmann no Hornby this two trains models from company PIKO
Please.
As I am old enough to be your Dad, I agree. In fact, I would have really wanted this!
It’s a beautiful locomotive!!! Great video Sam! Have a awesome day 😁
-Nick
Thanks a lot Nick - have a good day too mate! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Great video Sam the train set is a good deal but it is not available in The USA I wish it was . Thank
You for keeping us entertained during this times of not being able to go out.
Thanks a lot Louis - it's a shame they're not available in the states?! :O
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Union Pacific has a licensing division that decides if a company is allowed to use their likeness on models and toys. I'm pretty sure that Mehano hasn't been in touch with them...as an aside, Mehano made HO gauge models (locomotives and cars) for Atlas in the 1970's and 1980's. I'll bet someone in Serbia found the tooling in the back room and started cranking out new ones again 🤣
Louis buscarino I looked it up and you can get it in the USA,but it’s $184.00 not worth it. It should be about $50.00 if that
@@theodorelease8477 true, considering that you can get a trainset quality model from Bachmann, with EZ-track and Bachmann's own Kadee coupler clones, for around $100
I have a Mehano train set from 1994 that was made for President's Choice it's a 2-8-2 Mikado steam locomotive and I got it used at a flea market and it's really nice for who it was made for and still works great today
Mehano was sort of a "every ones got one" here in the states. Although pretty much no one realize it. Because of the company eastern European heritage, remember, this was still the tail end of the cold war, It decided to market its products to established train manufactures that sold their products in the US. Everyone for AHM to Bachman to Model especially, repackaged and sold some or all of their models. They were great pullers despite the little 3 pole motor's, as they had all wheel drive by this point. I had a gp18 when I was a kid that was sold via Bachmann, I did not know it was a Mehano at that time. I always like it because it was about to pull huge trains. When I started installing DCC decoders, About 12 years ago, I used some of these models, from the likes of AHM as my early attempts. I was highly impressed by how well they put together for what they were.
haha I can see why - they're such good value really! Many thanks for all the info!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Thank you for an intelligent comment, most here seem to be just random comments containing information that is wildly guessed at.
Hi Sam..a brilliant review..I'm really tempted to get one of these...the Elephant turd LOL..you could incorporate in your own layout and maybe paint it or add some scatter and bushes...or maybe not, having looked at again, lol
Thanks very much - I can highly recommend it - although I'm certainly not putting that turd anywhere near my layout ;)
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13:33 continuity error, Sam. Tut tut.
haha! Wow - that was pretty sloppy! xD
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How about throwing that 5 pole motor from the other day in it :)
Absolutely - I've thought about it! xD
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And don't forget to add flywheels.
I actually bought the locomotive itself from Amazon for $28 (yes, I’m American) back in 2020. It was, for a good amount of time, my largest operable diesel locomotive. It was that way until earlier this year when I purchased a Bachmann SD40-2 With dcc and sounds from the real NS 3430 for an astounding $178. It replaced the mehano c630 as my largest diesel. I later sold it off after I converted to DCC.
President’s Choice, a grocery store chain here in Canada, featured almost a dozen train sets released around Christmas time over several years. The engines were decorated in Canadian liveries while the freight cars were either painted in authentic Canadian markings or had PC products featured on the sides of the freight cars. Two of the sets were diesel while the rest were steam powered. Mehano and later IHC (International Hobby Corporation) produced the train sets. The same transformer in your set was included in the sets as well. I would highly recommend you take a look at these interesting sets and even the buildings that were produced to go with them.
I thought it said "sod line" XD
haha I'd love that!! :D
Ah U Boats, very nice locomotives
Yeah! I quite like this one!! :D
It’s actually a an Alco
actually an Alco C628, but still a very nice locomotive
my favorite U-boat is the U8B! A Vietnam veteran LOL
SOO Line is an old railroad in the US, which it’s territory is now owned by the Canadian Pacific Railway. I used to work that territory in North Dakota, and would run freight trains up to the Canadian border for interchange
Thanks a lot for the info mate! I didn't know this!
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Menaho also produces a starter set with G1206 locomotive, and the locomotive has a freaking speaker! And a DCC socket! And a metal chassis! And lots of not-molded details like metal railings and horns. And some wagons in that starter set even have metal wheels. It costs around $100, but still cheap. I have one and am absolutely amazed by the quality of the loco. But the rails are still steel.
I bought a Mehano French outline train set for a small nephew a few years ago. Funnily enough it contained an SNCF B-B 67000 diesel just like your Lima 0 gauge one. I remember being pretty impressed given the price. The loco was quite good as I recall and I improved the rolling stock by adding some extra weight.
This lot would be quite nice with some extra weight and some very serious weathering...
The loco will probably be better once it's well run in.
Ooh a French one?? That sounds awesome - I'll have to look into that one! :D
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The Union Pacific number 3222 belongs to an UP EMD (General Motors Electro-Motive Division. [Later: Electro-Motive Diesel ]) SD40-2 but the loco model in the kit is an ALCO (American Locomotive Co.) Century 628. ALCOs have those distinctive rear corners on the long hood and on front hoods on "High Hoods". This is a Low Hood for better forward visibility.
Duly noted Julie, thanks a lot for the info!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Hi Sam! I've had a similar Mehano set as a kid, two actually. A Thalys set and a Boston & Maine diesel cargo set. The little plasic things in the bag at 11:09 are for clicking the tracks together. You don't really need them (as you show too, you didn't use them) but they can come in handy for kids.
I recently found out that both trains I have still run after having been stowed away for more than ten years. The Mehano quality is amazing.
I now use the tracks of these sets to run a more expensive Roco locomotive, an 1100 series from the Dutch National Railways.
That sounds pretty cool mate - thanks for letting me know what those clips were for - sounds good for keeping everything together actually!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Sam'sTrains No problem Sam :)
Do you only cover trains from the British railways and it’s predecessors, or do you also cover foreign material?
Those Mehano controllers are quite impressive indeed. I own a couple of them. They're based around an LM317 linear regulator.
You can mod them by adding a TO-220 heatsink to the regulator itself. This increases the current output of the controller to around 1 amp continuous and 1.5 peak (!). One of my controllers is modded this way and it handles my old clunky Spanish Ibertren models (which absolutely devour power) no problem at all.
I certainly thought so - very good indeed! Thanks for the tip on that - I'd be interested in trying that!
Cheers,
Sam :)
I've had 4 Mehano train sets as a kid.
I didn't know for better than Mehano because in Croatia it's all we had, mostly sold as kids toys in various stores. Cheap and plastic but I gotta say pretty reliable for the price. Mehano is an old company from ex. Yugoslavia and now it's in Slovenia today. I still kind of miss having a train set to play with.
I donated my last train set to my high school where I was in a team to make a small model railway layout. It was an Burlington Northern Alco C628 with a crane and boom tender, hopper car and a caboose.
Yup and I'm a train engineer today! :)
Trains were always my passion.
Ooh that's pretty awesome - glad you found them reliable back in the day too! :D
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Its once again one of those recommended videos at 3 AM, i was never into railways as a whole, but i can say that i enjoyed this review, even though i aint going to buy it or anything. It reminded me of my train set when i was i child, and i still cant believe how much fun i had with one locomotive and few cargo vagons! Thank you for this well structured content. I regard people doing this, playing a mastermind behind a small world. I cant imagine doing it my self, but watching it is very, very satisfying.
Glad to hear that Roman, thanks very much! :D
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Here in Canada, Mehano train sets were marketed under the President's Choice brand and were sold in supermarkets around Christmas for around $70. They had a steam locomotive and around 5 freight cars and a large oval of track, though the loco was the only decent part of it. Sadly, they haven't been made for years but they can be found for sale online for much higher prices.
Ahh very interesting - I didn't know this, thanks for the info! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
The first high side wooden wagon is DR or DB early 50s. The Tubes are concrete sewer/stormwater/culvert pipes.
The Soo line cars are US standard Hoppers ( Coal, Gravel, even Grain, with Tarpaulins/ fibreglass roofing.
SOO LINE was a Class 1 rail company,
Central Northern USA.
Sam, you should expand your Knowledge outside your insular 00-UK
- 1/76 outlook, which actually is quite good for those of that ilk.
Doc AV
Thanks a lot for this - I was wondering about that one!!
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Never in my years, have I ever been disappointed by a Mehano locomotive (need to procure their TGV & ICE high speed sets, sometime!). Owning one of these ALCO C628 locos, I am most grateful to see you're pleased. God's Speed to you, and keep Uncle Pete's ALCOs rolling!
Me neither actually - they seem to be very good indeed, especially for the money!
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Hi Sam i don't know if it is already said. But the things on the spruce is just for locking the track together. Had one of these sets myself several years ago.
Thanks a lot Steve - yes you're right, that has been confirmed! Thanks for the info!
Cheers,
Sam :)
@@SamsTrains with my pleasure sam
the Locomotive is actually a ALco C628 they were built in the 1960s altho ALco went out in 1968 but they kept producton by MLW (montreal locomotive works) they also came out in wide cabs in the 1980s with the MLW M420W which was made in 1973. then more variants with the M636 and the M640 which the difference would be that the bell would be in the front of the cab most railways in the US and canada owned these locomotives... untill MLW went out of business
Ahh okay, thanks for that one Brandon - appreciate the knowledge!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Looks like the trains my local toy store and hobby store used to sell back when they were still in business! My first “modern”-inspired toy train was an EMD Geep, three or four freight cars, and a caboose all in brightly painted metal. Took me back a ways. Thanks for showing us!
Ahh very interesting Richard - that one sounds pretty good! It's a pleasure mate! :D
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Amazing value! Yes, as others say, that loco and wagons would look much less like plastic toys with some good weathering - perhaps add a caboose to the consist? The 'elephant poo' could look really good after painting and grasses, bushes and trees etc. are added
Thanks a lot James - yes indeed, they would make great projects! :D
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I love your enthusiasm Sam, it's inspiring. Super respectful and honest, much like the legend that is James May. This set is rather lovely, it almost makes me feel like a child again. I'd have no hesitation in purchasing this for my son's as a starter set. Thanks for the review Sam. Stay safe.
Thanks so much Dan - that's very kind of you! Yes it did me too actually! xD
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Mehano put out sets for a Canadian Grocery store. I have 2 of them they were about $99.00 cad in the early 2000s. One of mine is that bullet nosed 6060 that you reviewed, and the original tender was very like the one in the set. One of the locomotives also came with smoke liquid. The track looks identical. Another great video Sam. Thanks
Very interesting David - that sounds great! Appreciate the comment,
Sam :)
Where I live in the United States I’m about 145 kilometers or 90 miles from the General Electric plant that builds the AC4400 Diesel Locomotive. Although I’ve never been to the plant they do show how their built on youtube if you decide to go to that site make sure you put in what locomotive you want to see because there’s a few sites on their that show how these things are made. When I watched the video which was a few years ago the said they cost around 1.6 million pounds or $2,000,000 million dollars for one locomotive and should last about 25 years. They recently built another plant in Texas, U.S.A. so that they could keep up in production.
Ooh that sounds awesome Donald - thanks a lot for sharing! :D
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Man, I wish we had these in america! Most cheap train sets are battery powered, as SMT mentioned, and have plastic track that can't be expanded, as they usually come in circles. And the next level up is a 100 dollar set by bachman, and all you get is just the EZ track, and a train, and of course the transformer. I think this would do wonders for anyone wanting to try out the model railroad hobby, as all you need is a basic train and a sense of imagination.
I can't blame you! Yes the compatibility is brilliant with these! :D
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I've had two Mehano locomotives, they used to be sold in North America under the "IHC" name and before IHC by Pemco and AHM. They are very basic in detail, but very reliable runners that will last forever and make good budget locomotives.
Duly noted - yes I've seen some of their models marketed as IHC before too! You're right!
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Interesting review. Thanks Sam. You might be interested to know that the Soo Line was originally a subsidiary of a Canadian Company. In the early 1900's, There were serious problems building track north of Lake Superior. The Soo line connected two sections of track in Canada by going south of Lake Superior which means going through the USA. The name comes from the connection between the cities of Soo St Marie and Winnipeg. The line created a vital connection to Western Canada for goods ( and other more controversial items). i.e. Canadian troops were moved through the USA to react to a rebellion in 1904. I have driven the length of the original Soo Line. The bridges etc still say Soo Line. I am not sure if the Soo Line is still owned by Canadian Pacific Railways.
Hi Sam. Have received my own set today. Although, like you, I could hear things rattling inside, when I opened the box, everything was in apple pie order! There were no breakages on the loco, the wagons were neatly arranged in the box as was the track. The size of the curves differs to those of Hornby, Peco etc as three of them equate to two of Hornby etc. Interestingly, the radius is 3rd, amazingly, as I did a comparison, laying the Mehano track on top of the Hornby. Yep, it's 3rd radius. A 3 pin wall transformer easily plugs into the controller, so no problem there. Even the elephant calling card seems ok! The inner packaging was intact, no splits or tears anywhere.
Even though this is clearly an inexpensive set, I thnk I shall have a lot of fun with it. You can get extra rolling stock via the Mehano website if desired. Overall, I am pleasantly surprised. Am awaiting the Ouigo speed train set from Mehano, should arrive tomorrow. There are other speed train sets available too.
Seriously Sam, I'm impressed.
A project: how to exchange the current couplings for nem couplings. Any ideas? Best, Pete.
Blimey Pete, sorry to hear that - at least there were no breakages though! Great that it's 3rd radius though, I'm impressed with that!
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@@SamsTrains Hi Sam, nothing to be sorry about.....?! The set was just fine.
Do you have any ideas about changing the couplings? I also noticed that the plug on the controller that fits into the power track piece is screwed on. It will be interesting to see what it's like inside, once the casing is unscrewed and taken off. We might be able to plug it directly into a Hornby power track piece, for instance. Pete.
Thanks Sam! I am repainting a much older version of the Mehano C-628 from UP, like the one on your set, to Minnesota Commercial. Thanks!
I used to watch your content religiously a few years back. I returned today, and I am pleased to see the charm hasn’t left!
That's lovely to hear - thanks so much for the kind words! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Hi Sam..enjoyed the video. Thank you!
The Locomotive is an Alco Century C628(The trucks/bogies give it away).
Yes..a matter of fact,I have operated a Mehano made Locomotive (Life-Like Brand).
Bought it in 1992,from the local Toys R Us store( back when the store stocked good stuff)
It was a good runner.. equipped with a 'Can Motor' ..ran good. Having no traction tyres/tires...I added a little lead weight on the chassis...and it could pull a really long train.. putting other much heavier, traction tyred Locomotives to shame.
I had loads of fun with it.
Thanks so much John, and many thanks for sharing - they've been around for some time for sure then!!
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Although this is more ‘plasticky’ remember this is a kids train set. We used to be a dealer for Mehano and I found their stuff amazing - again, they don’t pay attention to detail in terms of liveries for various railroads but a more experienced modeller can fix them up nicely in a project. The locos motors are strong and quiet. We sometimes had problems with the controllers but I think that happens with any manufacturer.
Yes this one did look a bit more plasticy for some reason - very happy with it overall though! :D
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Hey sam i have a union Pacific dash 8-40c(narrow nose) from bachmann spectrum series ( my photo on the right of the comment ) and the slow moving have impacted me because it looks like stopped but two minutes after it have moved some centimeter but only works on DCC current and is my neighbor loco
mine is the same engine and the same serie but in DC and it have a lot of problems on turns of 420°
Ooh interesting - is that one better than this then?? Sorry to hear it has issues :(
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@@SamsTrains the only problem is the handlebars are made from very thin plastic and is very fragile
That is an Alco. No doubt. A C628 I have the original Mehano 1980s version in Lehigh Valley scheme running for years on my layout. Very powerful HO engine with a good solid motor. The prototype were originally built for heavy coal trains.
Thanks a lot for letting me know - appreciate that! :D
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Sam :)
Re the couplers and drawgear - in my experience with Mehano, you can replace the Euro couplers with Kadee or other knuckle couplers, but it does involve dismantling the bogies.
Yes you're right - they're just clamped in place - if I had replacements, I could definitely do that! :D
By default, I own two Mehano locomotives. To my dismay, the Mogul runs like a Swiss watch and looks fairly decent. The diesel, GP 40, actually runs decently, not a crawler, but holds its own at speed, and the wagons that went with it are quite pleasing to the eye and stay on the rails.
The locomotive is not actually an EMD SD40-2 but rather an ALCO (American Locomotive Company) C-628 and the Soo Line was a real American railroad. The Soo Line cars are a typical American hopper car used to transport stone, coal and other various similar items. The items that were on the sprues that you were unsure about are clips for the track to help better keep it together.
Ahh cool, thanks for letting me know Shay, appreciate it! :D
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Sam :)
Seeing inside that locomotive I see a good place for a custom build. Get rid of the toy-like carbody, repower it, throw a bunch of tungsten putty in there around the driveshafts, 3D print a body of your own, and you've got one hell of a puller. Also easy to rig for DCC if you wanted to.
Yeah of course - it would make for a great project! :D
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Hi Sam, You are absolutely right that things need to be packaged properly, since many items are shipped air-mail, which means that they fly through the air into the shipping bin.
PS - My friends and I who have N Scale trains, here in Canada, nearly always use that kind of controller, with the built-in clicky-switch at zero. Brilliant :-)
Mehano company was one of the best toy factory in Yugoslavia, but back them it was called Mehanotehnika. I have a lot of Mehanotehnika H0 trains. Some of locomotives are old around 50 years and they stil work like new. They were producing model trains for a lot of Amreican companies like AHM, IHC, TYCO...
Thanks for sharing - I didn't know this!! :O
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I'm confused as to why the ALCO C628 engine in this set has the number 3222 when the real Union Pacific 3222 was an EMD SD40-2.
haha yeah - it's a bit off isn't it? ;D
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@@azuma7628 Here is the comment i found, no chinese at all! 🙃
@@azuma7628 Funny be me its on englisch....maybe, you PC?
Wow! As a kid, I've started with a MEHANO starter set like this. This was about 15-18 years ago. Good to see, that they are still making theese cheap sets. I know they are more like toys, than serious models, but that's it's benefit. If gets broken by the kid or something, you won't bother.
Ahh fantastic - yeah they still seem to be going strong (I think!) Absolutely!
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On my 10th birthday, after years and years of asking my parents for a train set I got a Mehano train set which is pretty basic, it's the loco (a GP18 in an SNFC livery) +3 cars (and the tracks and controller of course) so the box was much smaller as it got no buildings nor mountains and such. After it, I went with other brands like Athearn, Atlas, etc as Mehano is quite strange in Mexico, but anyway, it's a great starter kit for someone with a low budget and the quality is really good for the price (still got everything after 15 years except for a car). Also, it is ideal for someone who wants to experiment with detailing and weathering. Nice video, I subscribe!.
That's awesome - great to hear you expanded it too, perfect!
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Its just nearly the same technics as in my Mehano TGV Thalys. I got my TGV Thalys in a starterset too but a bit older then yours. It still runs fine with also a DIY light job done by me! The Mehano remote is indeed a really good one! I use them as daily drivers on my layout and they do the job really well! I'm really happy with them! :D Accept for that a month ago one of the two broke because for some reason when I plugged it in the power, it went rightaway to 100%+ for some reason. I scared the shit outta me because my old girl (Fleischmann br 01) went flying around the track and I just couldn't stop it! I needed to plug the power out and then the train stopped... I opened the remote it up, but nothing special was seen... I threw it away and bought a new second hand one on the internet for 5 euro's and that one is now doing its job nicely on my layout!
Ahh fantastic - yes the TGV is mechanically very similar, though I like the quad worm drives - very cool! :D
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@@SamsTrains Its quite a clever systen that works really well for a low budget! Really nice job done by Mehano! :D
Awesome review. The locomotive looks to be a former AHM tooling. The set reminds of the Tyco and Life Like electric HO scale train sets seen here in the states.
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That locomotive is actually an ALCO C628. Back in the day each builder had their own unique styling, the big giveaway that it's ALCO are the clipped corners where the number boards go, and the Century series all had the stubby short hood on the front (its where they keep tools and spares as well as the toilet). They were built from 1963 up until shortly before ALCO went out of business in 1969 but fortunately some of them are still in service today.
Thanks for that Spork, duly noted! :D
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@@SamsTrains Style was important even in freight service. You could easily tell the difference between ALCO, EMD, Baldwin, Fairbanks-Morse, and later GE. And I was mistaken the C628 there are only 3 survivors, two in Mexico and one in Australia, but other Century-series locomotives are still in service.
As with most models one can always add more details. Also it would not hurt to add weight to the locomotive to create more traction. As a kid, I was given a TYCO electric train and it quit working within a week. It was $19.99 at Toys R Us. After seeing the inside of this locomotive, I believe it will actually function properly for a while.
I bought the same set 10 years ago and had the same locomotive back in 1980s. This loco has some issues with its steering. In knows to get stuck in left or right position. I remember that i did fix it somehow.
As a kid i had lots of mehano sets.
This looks ideal for a five year old. If they don't take to it, the price isn't too much to swallow, but if they do, it looks to be compatible with code 100 track, so can easily be extended. It's the sort of thing that Tri-ang used to make in the 1950s and 1960s.
Yeah you're right - the price is spot on really!!
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I picked up (this week) a Roco H0 start set on offer from Scograil for £49.95. They still have one listed with a small Shunter at the same pric
My set has a Br.290 which is excellent - worth the price alone!
Wow! Such a great price - glad to hear you were happy! :D
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A Roco train set with road bed track, a simply detailed but powerful locomotive and two cars for under £50 will aesthetically and functionally please an officianado more than Mehano - seriously.
Mehano Train Sets, on the other hand, do put Hornby to shame! Unfortunately, the concept of a cheap Bachmann (UK) Train Set just does not exist in 2020
I have that controller with my almost 20 year old Mehano President's Choice set.
I use it. It replaced my almost 30 year old one recently.
Cont'd. Soo line, I'm sure others have mentioned by now, is Minneapolis, St Paul, Sault St Marie line. It is owned by CN or CP...
Ahh fantastic - yes they really do work incredibly well! :D
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Standard containers are based on multiples of 20 ft. (One ICU), Those appear to represent 40ft containers. MSC stands for Mediterranean Shipping Co.
Duly noted Mike, thanks for the info!
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Hi Sam, A have a top of the range Mehano HO Diesel Co-Co Type 51 of the Belgian Railways NMBS/ SNCB. In fact I've put a TTS class 60 decoder in - was DCC ready and plug & play - real easy. 5 Pole motor. Smooth and reliable runner and pulls the socket out of the wall... Must be 10 years young now but as good as new. Very pleased with, although the sound is 'thin'. Guess I'll replace the (poor) speaker for a Mega Bass. Mehano produced a lot of HO loco's for the US market - maybe still do... Was fun to watch - thanks for sharing & greetings.
Oh wow - that sounds just the job! I'd love to try one of those!! :D
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I've got two mehano TGVs. It was probably better to buy a pair for €200 than a single one for €250. I can't complain, it serves it's purpose and they sell add-on carriages via proper model railway stores to make a full set at a very modest price.
That sounds great Peter - I've ordered one this morning funnily enough - can't wait to see what they're like!
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@@SamsTrains They've got an all-metal chassis for the powered unit, but no lights The motor's a tiny bit noisier but still works fine and the noise is well within the range of what's acceptable. I got the Inoui and Ouigo ones, the printing (admittedly quite complex) on the Ouigo one is a tad rough but then they are supposed to be large pink circles. They do come in a matt finish though, all it needs is a bit of weathering around the running gear and it will be fine.
Looking at this model much closely, its definitely one of the many six-axle "U-boats" GE built in the 60s, same goes for the Santa Fe and Canadian National diesels you got from the previous video I commented on, since unlike the C30-7, theres no buldge in the carbody just before the radiator. Now whether its a U25c, U30c, U33c or U36c depends on how much of hauler it is since GE model numbers always represent the horsepower of the locomotive.
Ahh cool - thanks a lot for the info mate! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)