Brilliant editing Cineranter.When you go from Franseze to Ray Liotta pissing himself I loved it.Still love the new opening credits.Great work as usual mate.
@@IvanLendl87 Spot on.Such a disappointment.The only good thing was the twist of how the trailer makes you think Dickie is visiting his dad in prison but even that was a bad call along with the many others in the film.But I think Cineranter makes good points here.There’s nothing here that wasn’t in the Sopranos.It was just a poor,poor movie start to finish.
Nothing ridiculous about Fransezes take on the movie, he called it like he saw it, it was really bad (some of us let the sentimental aspect dictate our views) this movie was a waste.
@@dend1 That's literally all it was. Just pointless fan service, characters who looked like they were parodying Sopranos characters with no other personality to them than their overdone mannerisms and in the end I was just left wondering "why the fuck was this even made?" It was entertaining for a fan of the show, but the movie was a complete plotless dumpster fire.
@@drivernephi2212 Yes as a huge fan I was so disappointed in this movie I was actually upset. It felt like a fan of the series made a parody of a movie and not Chase himself. I do have to say the actor playing young Silvio was put in a no win situation. Because Van Zandt played the character with such extreme mannerism had the actor playing the young Silvio downplayed it, people would say they didn't even realize it was Silvio because he had none or little of the mannerism.
I like Michael a lot. I think he is a good dude but he’s also been pounding the political pulpit a lot these past few months and I think that’s the real reason that he had an issue with this movie. I’m not a democrat or a republican, I don’t believe one side is all good in the other side is just evil for the sake of being evil I think that’s a little ridiculous but I have Seeing all the conservative Sopranos fans be up in arms because they’re referring to the Newark riots as a BLM thing in the movie. Do you know if they would’ve never have brought the riots up in the original series 3 different times then I could kind of see the argument. But the riots were brought up in the original series no less than three times and then they make a prequel that is going to take place during that time and everyone knew that we were going to see part of the riots in this movie. So I don’t really buy this whole thing that the whole reason David Chase made this movie was to make a BLM statement. Especially if you’re covering a time in history where this actually happened and you already referred to it several times in the sopranos universe. So I really think he’s using that anger about that and then using that as an excuse to rip on this movie. But the crazy thing is that Micheal has no problem with Godfather, Goodfellas and regular episodes of the Sopranos but to say TMSON makes Italians look bad and the others don’t is very Hypocritical.
Shall we discuss Willie Moretti or Tommy DeSimone there Michael? I think he actually left because of Rico, the sophisticated surveillance equipment being brought to bear, and the stiff prison sentences being handed out. I doubt seriously it was because the mob was made up of disturbed individuals.
@@dqreps that's not entirely true. He does, in more recent videos, mention how as a soldier he did some roughing ppl up and stuff. He doesn't say it exactly that way but definitely alludes to it.
Michael: "This work of fiction gives mob guys a bad name! Im outraged and offended by this movie!" Me: "Silly me. I thought all those real-life murders gave mob guys a bad name. I stand corrected: Mob guys are great men who should be respected and would never hurt anyone."
I love mob movies, but championing these monsters needs to stop. It would be like cheering for Michael Myers or Freddy Kreuger just because they started a podcast.
Michael started out on RUclips being extremely level headed and down to earth. This movie review he did seemed to be rge turning point. He seems far more "back in my mob days" in a tough guy way now. He just had a full-blown argument with Sammy the bull on Valuetainment as well. I can't help but think the RUclips fame / money has effected him.
Honestly ever since he started doing the Valuetainment videos is when he really started to change I think. It’s really sad because I do like Michael , I think he is a genuinely good person but just like other people in my life that I actually know as people in real life that are good people sometimes politics make people blind. I don’t care which side of the fence he’s on I have friends on both sides but before he started going on their RUclips channel he was much more levelheaded and seem to have cold things down the middle and I really do think his entire rant about the movie just because he was in this mindset of that hard-core Republican that is just looking to get offended by things like that. There wasn’t any more racism in this movie than there was in movies like Goodfellas or the Sopranos series and I’m glad in this video he actually talked about it because Michael gives high praise to the series but you can tell he hasn’t watched it because the same stuff in this movie is in the television series. And it’s not like they made one race the good guys and one raised the bad guys in this movie. It’s a movie about criminals Michael so yes everyone in the movie was portrayed as a bad guy not because of the race but because they were criminals. He started linking the riots as the main problem between the Italian guys in the black guys in the movie and that wasn’t really it at all. The riots lead Herald down a path that made him change things but it’s not like he blamed the Italians for the riot and they even went out of their way in the movie to point out that the black guy in the cab was never actually killed . The riots were started in the movie because of the police not because of the mafia. I think Michael was just so angry about the political things he’s been talking about on their RUclips channel and he is that that’s just where his mindset was he was just enraged about politics so when he saw that it really triggered him. And hey I get it and I do think there are some movies that go out of their way to try to be overly woke and put the agenda before the story and I admit this movie was not a perfect movie. I think it would’ve been a lot better if they broke it down to like a 10 episode miniseries and really flushed everything out myself but I don’t think that they were trying to be woke when they made the movie. Good luck trying to have an adult discussion with anyone who is in that mindset though because even if you try to have a polite adult discussion I’ve found that they just fly off The handle and starts calling you a snowflake without even finding out what your view on anything was.
'RUclips fame / money has effected him.' its pretty obvious you have no clue who he is and shouldent judge everyone can be offended by diffrent stuff atleast his a valued point than most of you others has today...he was a millioner and famouse already when in the mafia so i doubt it exrermty much you just bullshiting and finding a reason to 'prove' hes faking his turn around in life etc its more the climate of the world and usa after the corona and sensles hate and violence he often against... about sammy yeah ofcourse? what you guys thing sammy calling him out and sammy act more gangster still and his a real rat than michael he just ascerted his position showin sammy couldent scare him cause of his reputation and he diffrence himself to sammy being a gangster michael call and see himself as a rackateer not a gangster he were in for the money and thought could help his father more and droped out of school if recall he study to be a doctor
That kind stupid money or fame he was already famous and for sure rich as shit feds cant possibly get all the money he had like that 50 million he buried somewhere
@@DanJuega tbf you know the absurd amount of youtubers earn be succesfull also to host such seminarium as he do and speak to youth inmates the state pay for then the books and wine etc as being the typical mafia they allways had some legal buissness launder money he is producer of movie and music.. So yeah no ill think he be more than settled without any need to resort to petty crimes now days i promise you
I think he mistook the film for a dramatic retelling of history. He says “That never happened” so many times during the review. I respect the guy, but he needs to realize that this movie isn’t based on real life events, and that these characters don’t exist.
Well if its a mob movie and they're forcing in ridiculous things I have no problem with him calling that out. Your touching on the real riots then suddenly adding absurd things like blacks having shoot outs with Italians.
The very characters he’s offended by are no better than the real life scumbags he actually knew. As if being a soulless murderer, a loan shark, a drug dealer, and a knee breaker is somehow better than being a racist.
You’re right he must have been having a “bad day” the day he taped that review. I saw that episode and was a little shocked when he said what he said about David Chase😳
I like Michael but I think his real hatred for this movie is less about it making Italians look bad and I wish she didn’t say that because this is the same guy that has no problem with the godfather, good fellas and other gangster movies where they depict Italian mafia members doing terrible things. But if you’re going to give all of those movies a pass and see this one makes Italians look bad that just seems really hypocritical. I think his main problem with this movie that he will never Come out and admit is that at the same time that he saw this movie he’s been in on that other RUclips channel that’s supposed to supposedly air the sit down between him and Sammy the bull and that’s actually a political channels. Those guys talk politics on that channel every day and Michael is a diehard Republican. Every conservative that I’ve known that has watched the movie really get upset because they showed the riots in there. They’re using it as an excuse to accuse David Chase of trying to make a woke movie and while I agree there are definitely movies and television shows that have fake woke Messages in them I don’t think that’s what David was doing it all. They mention the riots in the Sopranos series 3 different times and we all knew going into this movie that it was going to take place during the time of the riots. It would be something totally different if in the original series they acted like the riots never happened in the sopranos universe and then just introduced us to these real life events for the first time in the sopranos university next movie but that’s not what happened. So I think it’s more about his political ties then “ oh no they’re making Italians look like bad guys in the movie because they’re committing crimes” really? The same guy that loves the godfather, casino, Goodfellas etc.?
@@bdr113080 I grew up in Chicago during the time period depicted. Half my family was connected to the Chicago Outfit by marriage (none made members, just associates to my knowledge). Through these people I knew several soldiers and associates of the Lucchesi Family out of NY. The fact is, Italians hated blacks, looked at them as sub-human and would literally kill them on site if caught in an Italian neighborhood after dark. They would stuff the bodies into the sewer as a warning. So yes the movie is somewhat accurate in that aspect except it did not go nearly far enough in the violence of Italian mobsters against blacks in general. Franzese claiming that never happened is an outright lie and a massive one at that. Italians are extremely conservative as it is and the only reason any of them voted democrat was because of union membership. Once the unions lost power, almost all of those Italians went full republican.
@bdr113080 I think you're oversimplyfying his arguments. His problem isn't that they portrayed mobsters bad, it's they over exaggerated how mobsters acted. As he mentioned no mobster would just immediately go into racist mode like johnny boy did after coming back from 4 years in prison. Similarly no mobster would be as volatile as dickie was. The point is that it's not authentic at all
Tbf, I think Franzeze just didn't like how they made basically every mobster to be murderous psychopaths. Mobsters are bad obviously but not every mobster would just be able to casually able to kill their goomars like dickie does. Chase basically over exaggerated just how psychotic mobsters were
@@olofacosta3192depends who it is. Tommy desamone, who was depicted in goodfellas as tommy, was sociopathic, when he would get a new gun he would walk into the street and shoot a random person to try out the gun. And his treatment of spider, which is based off a real event
sopranos show showed how bad the crews were in realistic ways. MS is simply a joke. like it was written by 20 year old SJW blue haired lesbians who've never seen Sopranos, have no idea on Mafia/NY/NJ history, and were only hired because that's all Hollywood can legally hire for projects anymore. if you white and like sex with women you literally cannot find work in Hollywood anymore. fucking insane time we live in. and honestly if those unqualified people would just make good media i couldn't care less you was working behind the scenes. but from writers, directors, actors, below the line people, from top to bottom it's filled with people who don't belong there. of course except for the shot callers way at the top. those Jews studio owners won't be replaced by POC Tranny Black Women of Colour any time soon, I guarantee it.
@Sith Jawa No it was a terrible film in my opinion. 2 hours of my life wasted! They sold us that film using The Sopranos & we got a namedrop, a few familiar characters & a couple of Easter Eggs for a film about……..I still don’t know. Is it a gangster film? a man coming to terms with himself? Coming to America? American life in the 60s & 70s. It’s not about the riots, which deserves a whole film in itself tbh, not the 20 mins of on-off screen time. Also “I have a murder warrant but the lead detective died……so it’s ok.” What!!!!!?????? Not even “Someone else ate the charge.”? Lazy storytelling! The acting was great & the setting was amazing, but the MSoN is a complete write-off. It pains me to say that. They let all Sopranos fans & all the actors down with this bust! This is the JaMarcus Russell of films!
Except a Bronx tale was a better movie then many saints of Newark. But I don't get some of Michael's rants. Mob guys aren't good people. Organized crime in general is bad. It doesn't matter who's doing it. The mob is bad, gangs are bad, the cartels are bad. Outlaw motorcycle clubs are bad. Prison gangs are bad. Criminality as a whole is bad. Organized or petty level.
Also mob guys beating their women? They showed that in the godfather, raging bull. Goodfellas, the sopranos, all the time. And they cheat on their women all the time too. They again showed that in all those other films and shows
Franzese is a horrendous reviewer of movies in general. He is like the therapist who listens to your problems briefly and interjects how he went through a similar problem and then pontificates whatever message he has on his mind… he does that in his movie “reviews” which are often recounting and summarizing and then talking about himself.
@@soulsurfer639 Nah he's a clown. Constantly embellishes his own life story and gives zero insight in his reviews and always tries to resort back to himself.
@@doctorblue6375 Haha of course he talks about himself, he's one of the last old school Brooklyn capos to still be breathing. Why do you think people interested in the mafia click on to his podcasts? to hear about his life. I think Mike has way more credibility to judge a mob flick than cinaranter... or you lol The Many Saints was a woke piece of garbage that flopped at the box office... so I'd say Mike was spot on 🎯
He didn't even drown her because Harold was black. He was the only person there who liked and trusted Harold. He drowned her because Harold betrayed him on every level at that point and he was furious.
I'm thinking that the father aspect of this is what hit close to home. Especially the discrepancies of how Johnny boy was portrayed by Tony and how he really was. I personally found that interesting, yet I see Michael talk highly of his dad, but it's obvious his father was the primary reason for his families tragic turn. And Michael has profited off of it. That said, I do enjoy his channel because, at the end of the day, most of us are flawed human beings.
His whole “men didn’t beat their wives” blew my mind. Such a load of bullshit. The Italian side of my family was very aggressive and physically abusive to their wives and often times their children.
I personally didn't like this movie that much but felt Michael's review of it was melodramatic. There's plenty of fair criticism of this movie and yet I disagreed with almost everything he said. He nit picked every little thing to stimulate his animosity about a film he didn't like.
Yeah it’s far from the perfect Mall movie. There were things about it I really liked but overall I really wish it would’ve been like a 10 episode miniseries with every episode being an hour long. You stretch all of what happened out across 10 hours and you drop an episode a week so we’ve got 2 1/2 months to watch it and we get to know some of these older characters that weren’t in the original series a little better I think it would’ve been much better received. And I don’t care who likes it or who doesn’t like it that doesn’t affect how I view the movie at all and as someone who likes Michael a lot I really do think that ever since he’s been on the valuentertainment Channel a lot that he’s been very worked up into politics and I think the whole race riots part of the movie kind of triggered him and that’s all he could think about. But it really does feel like he only have paid attention to the movie because nowhere in the movie did it say that the black gang or the good guys in the Italian mafia we’re just these racist evil people. The movie was about criminals so everyone in the movie regardless of the race was doing shady shit. There wasn’t a “good guy “in this movie. He really needs to watch the entire series of the Sopranos though before we start saying some of these things because to anyone trying to just judge this fairly we can all tell that if he would’ve watched the whole series that all of this stuff was in the original series it’s not like that was added into the movie because they were trying to give a political message the Sopranos has never been about that. They’re going to put what’s in the story in the story regardless how anyone feels about it. That’s what made the series “groundbreaking “was they Push the envelope and didn’t really care who was offended but they never push the envelope for the sake of pushing it though it always match the story.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought he was acting weird in his review of the movie. Fun fact when he was complaining about Dickie murdering his father but in one of his videos he actually talks about a mobster and that mobsters brother who he knew who was ordered to kill their father and did so. So we know that patricide is something the mob will do. His whole rant was nonsensical and I think he either doesn't watch them or has missed the point of some of his favorite media in that the mobsters are portrayed as pieces of shit who leech of their communities and they were the ones who gave Italian Americans a bad name. I think this whole situation showed that Mr.Franzese is a very talented speaker and businessman with interesting insight into the mob life, but personal experience with the media he talks about is sketchy and should be taken with a grain of salt.
You think someone who's had their face in newspapers hasn't had personal experience with the Media? And thats before all the interviews hes done since then.
I’m really glad you made this analysis. I watched his review wondering if I was the only one who disagreed. My father grew up in Newark during the time depicted in the movie. Stories he told me about growing up that there was heavy racial tension in certain areas. There’s many reference to that on the Sopranos series. I respect everyone right to their own opinion but that plot in the story was needed. If anything it shows the molding of Tony’s own ideology and prejudice as he got older.
Yeah you’re not alone .And I’m someone that really likes Michael. I don’t agree with everything he does politically, I don’t consider myself a democrat or a republican but I always credited Michael because he seemed like he was a thinking man’s conservative. He’s one of the few people that are a conservative that has a platform like he does that will openly admit that there is no proof that the rigged. I’m not saying it was or it wasn’t but I’m just pointing out that the way he reviewed this movie is very inconsistent with the way that we know his mind to work up till now. I was really shocked when I saw his review and I was thinking the same thing you were. “ am I the only one that just feels like Michael is looking for a reason to not like this movie?” It’s one thing to not like a movie like the movie but I admit there were some problems with it it’s not a perfect movie by any means but the way Michael was going at it just seems really odd considering everything else he reviewed has the exact same kind of stuff in it but he never mentioned any of those things in the other reviews but for some reason in this movie he is hell-bent on dying on that hill.
@Beaverish Buck Teeth But it was a story about them. It was a story about the Newark race riots. And what do you mean there was racial tension “for a valid reason”?
This 💯 I couldn’t figure out where his emotional response to the film (and Chase) came from. Had to unfollow after that, it just didn’t add up and it didn’t come from an honest place.
@@tootsiroll4134 I agree it wasn’t a great film standing on its own, hopefully it’s a starter laying the groundwork for either a series or more prequel miniseries on HBO, but it’s not the merit of the film he seemed to have a beef with, it was all the other points he mentioned, points which are prevalent in pretty much every mafia related movie and series - some of which he gave high acclaim for. I’ve seen plenty of shitty films, but none of those made me want to indirectly threaten (probably not the right word) the writer/director…. That’s why I am guessing OP is saying that there’s more at play here… there was a very emotional response (and I get that he says this film makes all mob guys look bad, but so do all the other shows and films he claims he really enjoyed - Sopranos the series included)… hence the question.
I’m glad you made this video. I couldn’t believe how utterly stupid Franzese’s review of this was. He was actually saying a whole bunch of stuff that was addressed and mocked in the original Sopranos series. Ridiculous. And even his statement that a war between white and black gangsters over the numbers racket never happened is wrong. It’s not Newark in the 60s, but in New York in the 30s there was a war between Jewish gangster Dutch Shultz, backed by Italian gangster Lucky Luciano, and black gangster Bumpy Johnson, over control of the numbers racket in the black neighbourhoods in Harlem. Pretty much exactly the set up for the gangster conflict in this movie.
Yes....you are absolutely correct on this one. I'm from Philly and was from the gang streets of Philly. We had many issues with the Italian Mob. They even controlled the police department as well. Mike was not correct on this statements regarding black gangsters and the Italian mob. Shit was real back then. We had to carry and protect ourselves because they knew we were competitors in the game that they controlled
@@edwardhurdle5013 Yup, I remember my Grandfather telling me stories of how Puerto Ricans were essentially caught in the middle of all that mess, he used to work for the city near the docks and it was full of Italian Mafiosos. To go along with that, a family friend of ours used to be a mailman for my grandpa's neighborhood and always had to leave the mail on the corner since the Italians would always chase and/or beat him for being on their block. Insane to think where all that Italian power went.
Let's just forget about the Sopranos movie for a second (Cineranter is just doing this to gain views) he reviews movies right? He's never challenged anyone else's review of the movie. Hes seriously trying to call our Michael Franzese cause hes got numbers Cineranter doesn't? ,Cinerater CLOUT CHASING!! Looking for attention from a more important content provider Than him
@@edwardhurdle5013 Yeah. Good to hear your personal testimony man. I’m not from anywhere like that - I’m British - but I’ve seen enough accounts from people who were there to know it was going on. Good to have your good self let us know 👊
Yeah I thought exactly that when he has mentioned on many occasions that the Sopranos was the best series ever made and well written etc. Yet he has only seen a few episodes, I don't know how you could deem any series the best ever without seeing it all but for me especially the Sopranos as it all ties together and thats what gives it its charm and top level status. I couldn't wrap my head around how he could find it offensive. I think he really just didn't like the movie because it wasn't like he experienced in his lifetime and couldn't relate. Now I'm thinking like yourself has he actually even watched any of the Sopranos? Doesn't make sense why he would be offended by the violence and bad language used in the film. Should have made the film with no bad language, sex or violence or at least make the African Americans or some other race doing all of the above just for Michael. Maybe he's motivated to tarnish the film and give it a bad review for some reason? I always found him interesting and enjoyed listening to him review things for an insight into the life but for me this review was bonkers.
I think he is just upset that the Criminals in the Movies are evil selfish sociopaths who leech on Society and life from the misery of others and are not despicted like the cool Robin Hood kind of Gangsters who works for the Community. I mean did he even see Sopranos?
The idea of removing the language and violence reminded me of the MADtv sketch showing what The Sopranos would look like if edited for content ruclips.net/video/9RFdg4CHBgg/видео.html
True, I kind of had to call BS on there not being racial tension between Italians and black people in the 1950s-1960s. Now maybe Michael and his father weren’t racist themselves or ever had an issue with black people, but that wasn’t the majority zeitgeist of the era and there most definitely was tension especially in the 1950s/1960s. Think he took issue with Dickie calling Harold the N-word and Johnny boy being upset about blacks moving into the neighborhood; which you can’t deny wouldn’t of been an issue during those times again even if Michael isn’t racist nor minds having a black neighbor these days. Usually I agree with him but it’s not anti-Italian to point out that different ethnic groups had issues in a very tumultuous time period.
@@gordonhuskin7337lmao look up Michael Imperiali and the Catholic league. Just because you’re too stupid to open a book doesn’t mean that it didn’t exist.
@@DanJuega Franzese was not being woke. Just because some guy misuses the term on a RUclips comment doesn't mean it is meaningless. The disastrous prequal was woke, and it deserved to be criticised heavily.
And this goofy nerd who's never left his house? And spent most of his life in his moms basement, trying to gain views off using Michael Franzeses name in his title? That's a different typa lame
You know, I had the exact same reaction as you did to Michael Franzese's video, and thanks to you I finally figured it out why he had gotten so weird on it: It hit too close to home. Guilt is bothering him after so many years being away from it all, and he's afraid people will look at the film and see him in that light after converting. I don't know. Truthfully, there was a certain point when I felt like his mob video stuff just stopped being healthy for everyone involved. A lot of impressionable young people and sycophantic adults look up to him and I think him carving a niche as the "mob guy" is really starting to take it's toll psychologically (Like calling his get togethers "sit-downs", him almost glamorizing his nostalgic memories of the life.) It's not just him; Sammy really does seem like he would be back out there if he could. Edit: Great, me editing my typos got rid of CineRanter's like. :/
Sammy tells great stories but. And when you watch Sammy you know what your getting, a version of what he seen and done. I like Michael too but he has constraints that Sammy doesn't.
Franzese also recently did a video where he again claims the mob didn’t deal drugs officially. “Deal and die” was Carlo Gambino, Paul Costellano, Joe Colombo and Carmine Persico’s policy he claims. Made guys who dealt did it secretly he says. I’m thinking he must have forgotten about Carmine Galente, the Bonannos and the Sicilians’ (zips) heroin pipelines from Sicily, France and Canada into the US. Michael at best has selective memory.
Franzese fails often to mention that. Deal and Die was a myth. Vito Genovese and Vincent "The Chin" Gigante went to prison on the same case as Galante back in 1959. The Cherry Hill Gambinos were the main crew selling heroin for the Gambino Family during Carlo's run as boss. Every family was running dope for years. A lot of the mobsters caught at Apalachin were in Harry Anslinger's Black Book for the Bureau of Narcotics dating back from 1930. Every boss received money from their crews that were dealing and turned a blind eye to where the money came from
Galante was killed in 79, Genovese died 10 years prior, and Chin was not heavy into drugs. Remember, Castellano was killed bc of wiretaps showing that the Gotti crew had dealed in drugs. They killed the boss bc they were about to be whacked. The Bonnanos were thrown off the commission because of drug dealing and their rep was brought back by Massino's efforts. Most of their money was made elsewhere by and large.
Axel Arroyo Since Galante, Genovese and Chin went to prison for Narcotics Conspiracy in 1959, begs to differ that they didn't dabble much. As far as Castellano, we all know why his murder went down, but we also know that he accepted large sums from the DeMeo Crew because they were heavily into drug sales, as well. The Bonannos had been off the Commission since the 60's. First, when Joe Bonanno attempted to move on Carlo Gambino and Tommy Lucchese. Next, when Galante tried to hijack the top spot, as well as not sharing his connections. Then finally, Donnie Brasco. By the time Massino got the Bonnanos back in the Commission it was 1992... In defense of Franzese, he does come from the one family (Colombo) that wasn't well known for Drug Dealing, unlike the other 4 families that have been involved with Drugs since before the formation of La Cosa Nostra... Even Luciano was once busted for Heroin Trafficking and he snitched on his confederates🤷🏾♂️
Axel Arroyo everything I laid out to you is Public Record. The myth of Deal and Die is hypocritical. While Bosses can turn a blind eye to the monies sent up, not every made guy or associate were great earners even in the traditional routes, such as loansharking, gambling, prostitution, etc... And most weren't smart enough to be in the real huge earnings, like construction and labor racketeering... In all honesty, drugs were the only route that lesser earning member could rely on
Thank you for this video. I tended to view Franzese's RUclips channel on a fairly consistent basis, but his review of The Many Saints is where the stuff I had set aside combined with inane logic that didn't add up. I can get and fully respect not wanting negative portrayals of ones group* being displayed without requisite counter balance, but the main characters in the TV Show were HORRIBLE people, by most measures, so his being taken aback by the negative roles being played in the movie rang of cognitive dissonance to me. I found the move to be 7.5 out of 10 imo. More of a great pilot to a hopefully impending new iteration of the show, than a great stand alone movie, His take was off putting to me, especially from a person of such high intelligence.
I like Mike and his channel. but your correct in your review. He's a got a bit of a chip on his shoulder. and nobody has more blame to bear than the real organized crime figures he represented for years. Michael's rant was a disjointed mess. " You're making mob guys look bad"? Cmon Mike, you sound a little punchy.
Leaving aside everything else, it is a pivotal part of The Godfather that disturbed men associated with organized crime beat their wives. It was one of the complaints the Mob Guys(tm) had back in the day when the book was published. There is a literal chapter that talks about how being beaten by your husband is not just tacitly approved but open and known. Turns out when you are a sociopath for a living, you live like a sociopath. If only there was a saying about Rome for that….
You hit it on the head when you said that something might have happened to Michael recently. From what I understand, there was a recent tragedy and a young boy died in his house. I think he poured a lot of the overflowing emotions from that incident into this review.
Michael is a clown, nothing more, nothing less. And of course he found god and is now beating that bible like it owes him money. I tell you this Mikey, if there is a god he ain't gonna want anything to do with your criminal ass.
Hmmm 🧐 & he probably got defensive because if they did an investigation, of course you might have to question the “former Mob Guy.” So yea… it’s more to it.
THANK YOU!!! I’m so happy you made a video on this!! I watched Francezes review and unsubscribed immediately. The mob wasn’t racist?!!! The movie is offensive to mob guys!? I don’t care what you thought of the movie but that was the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard! He’s still running a racket. His “reviews” are basically just blow by blows anybody can do and he rarely gives any street insight from his experience.
At 17:36 Michael Franzese said.. "Is this necessary? It's an untrue story, not fact. Why put this stuff in there?" it's a movie you absolute sponge. This guy must be looking for some kind of praise. What a goon. Great vid as always Cine.
Well, people do tend to believe what they see in movies. In fact most do, especially when they portray a person or culture. The only "sponge"here is you
When I watched Michael's review of the movie all his talk on racism just seemed off - It came across as if he was looking at things through modern 2020s eyes rather than that this was set some 50 years ago when things were quite different. And it did seem inconsistent with his feelings about A Bronx Tale, a movie he loves and raves about, yet still has pretty much the same racial undertones ("Hey a black guy is walking down our street, lets go beat him and put him in the hospital" or "Hey for no reason lets go to the black community a couple of blocks away and shoot them just because they are there") but he didn't seem to take any offence to.
personally, i think it was cause of calogero falling in love with a black girl, and sonny supporting him. it more or less shows the good seeds, bad seeds, and mixed kinds of seeds within the community. i more or less have to agree with him on here. i dont really see any redeemable qualities from the italian-american community in this film
16:25 In A Bronx Tale the animosity between Italians and Blacks was actually more realistic with both sides chasing those from the other side that came into their neighborhoods. In The Many Saints of Newark, it was almost laughable at how they portrayed one side as some kind of bigoted people and the other as almost Christlike and never had a bad thought about anyone -- I mean, all of the characters on both sides are criminals that would rob and/or murder you given the chance. Sorry, but his point can be somewhat validated by the fact that the movie was a disappointment as a whole. Had Mr. Franzese made a similar point about The Godfather, then you could have made the point that he was being ridiculous. But the whole movie was actually kind of ridiculous and I think David Chase got so much money thrown at him and he wanted to so badly so have a Sopranos project on the big screen that he was forced to include some things that he never would have put in a Sopranos vehicle. And if you don't believe me, then why was he so outraged that it came out in theaters the same day that it was streaming online? That fact alone proves he did not have total control and was forced to bow to outside pressures including possibly having to put in ridiculous sub-plots...
No black people we’re definitely victims of insane racism, don’t pretend like it was a level playing field. More white people were racist against blacks than the opposite, and blacks were systemically discriminated against too
"You know I gotta be honest with you This review u made about michael franzese is absolutely offensive. It's not only offensive to me, but it's offensive to all Italian Americans. It depicts them in a bad way. Your review of michael also makes mobguys look bad which is very offensive. It's a very woke thing what u did here. And forgot to mention for the hundredth time, Michael franzese is the former caporegime of the Colombo family and his father is an absolute legend that ran al capone out the door" says every 'woke' mob fanboy (You're a fucking legend for making this review. Thanks for the laugh brother)
I'm subscribed to both his channel and this channel. I watched his review to Many Saints when it came out. It couldn't finish it honestly. I had the same reaction you had.
I didn't really like his review. But this doesn't mean that some things that he said are not expected for a casual viewer. Honestly I am a big Sopranos fan but the movie did not really work for me. The plot lines were not very intersting. Harold stuff can be completely taken out and would not mean so much for me. It was rushed. Raised some continuity concerns with what we know from the show. Not a bad movie necessarily but not good either. Just average. I am not in a hurry to watch it again anytime soon. Franseze is wise , I love listening to him. Doesn't mean I have to agree with everything he says.
@bogdan Agree with you on it being rushed. There just wasn’t enough context for it to have such a large role in the movie. Like if it was discussed in the show, the relationship between Dickie and Harold, it would make a lot more sense. I just can’t personally recall this relationship being discussed during the Sopranos. Given that, it being a big part of the movie just made no sense to me. I’m just like why am I supposed to care about this? Like thanks for covering this but since it was barely discussed I felt like I was missing something when I watched the movie. Turns out I didn’t. I’m all for the plot but it just didn’t deliver.
Some of the contradictions can be explained as in The Soprano’s flashbacks are from Tony’s POV and he’s an unreliable narrator and the movie is what actually happened. For example, in the show Tony comes home all cocky after his dad is arrested, talking to Livia like he’s an adult, saying he knows what’s up. In the movie Tony is brought home by the cops and is scared of Livia, which is definitely more consistent with what we saw of their present day relationship on the show. Even in most of the flashbacks Tony terrified of his mother and her wrath. Wouldn’t put it past him to remember his younger self being more like the “man” of the house when his dad got arrested versus the terrified child he actually was.
I couldn’t agree with you more. I actually watched his movie review when he released it. Everything you said in this video is what I was thinking when I watched his review. I was like” Did he even watch an of the series or Mob Movies. Hell Bronx Tale is a lot about racism. I can go on and on. I unsubscribed from him when I watched his review.
@@cuturu8724 I don’t disagree that a Bronx Tale was racist, it’s… a product of its time, to say the least. But do you think that the people involved were, for lack of a better word, malevolent, or that they just missed the mark? I don’t really know how to feel about it either way and you’re one of the only people (kind of strangely) I’ve heard express this sentiment, is why I ask
It is their living at this point. They can't go back to crime for another time. These people are the generation of mafia that born and bred entirely in America. Franzese is a nepo baby. When he was first arrested, he flipped. So did Gravano. They are too used to comfort and did not want to be suffering in prison or do an honest work.
Man I have been watching your videos for a few months now and I really love your content and breakdowns of mafia movies. But this video made me really love your channel. I saw Michael Feanzese’s review of many saints and I thought it was embarrassing and so far off that it made me dislike him so much. You nailed every single ridiculous thing he said, straight up everything I had an issue with. I always thought he was an interesting guy but his review made me think twice about him because of the bullshit he brought up and the way he was “offended” by the movie. He clearly hasn’t even seen the whole sopranos series. It’s funny because most people think the sopranos is just about portraying the mafia but it’s really so much more than that and I know you know that. And it’s hilarious to me that all of the psychology and meaning of the sopranos and more particularly the many saints of Newark just goes over this guys head. I was hoping someone would call him out for his bs review and I’m not surprised that it ending up being you.
Michael did a whole episode on the importance of holding politicians accountable, whilst saying constantly "thats all i'll say on that" to avoid accountability for multiple crimes 🤣🤣
i mean, he was on the opposite side of the law. they typically dont want to be held accountable, and the law is supposed to catch, or stop them. politicians on the other hand, they just do it and get away with it while the others watch. if i recall, they should be public servants upon getting into office, not criminals themselves
The people who wrote the movie seem to forgot the cinematic universe it takes place in. I've never seen so many inexcusable continuity flaws in my life. They didn't care when they wrote this movie
So the guy who loves other mob movies and was actually in the mob is taken back and offended by violence and racist language in a mob movie? Gimme a break. For the record, I also thought the movie sucked, but come on
You're analysis was spot on!! I love Franzese his channel, but sometimes he has these unexplicable blind spots for a man of his intelligence. This review of the Many Saints was one of them and his complete und utterly ridiculous denial that the American Mob wasn't heavily involved in the heroin trade, is another. Maybe the Colombos weren't in it that much in his time, but the Bonannos and Gambinos were controlling the East Coast and Mid-West market in the 70's and 80's. Plus the founder of the modern American mafia, Lucky Luciano, was involved in the Trans Atlantic heroin trade from the beginning. In this case I think he was extra emotional though, because a short time before this review his daughter's boyfriend died of an overdose in his house..
I Really like Michael Franzese , I just don’t agree with his review on the many saints of Newark , But hey everyone have they own opinion and I think he was just mad and at the heat of the moment
Yeah, I was disappointed by Many Saints of Newark, and I also follow Frazese's channel. I also found it odd that he had such a reaction to this movie. Made me suspect that there was something else behind the scenes that got him mad.
I'm a big Franzese fan but felt exactly the same as you. I don't think he's as big a fan of The Sopranos as he's made out. I commented on his video at the time: I would say that if you actually watch The Sopranos, there is much worse language (seeing as you said "they said some very offensive things, the language is terrible"), a lot more violence towards women (remember Ralphie's storyline and his demise in the series?), a lot stronger a portrayal of Mob guys as racist (see the episode Unidentified Black Males), and a lot more sex scenes and nudity (seeing as you said it was "unnecessary" in this film)
Well said. I was perplexed by Franzese’s commentary about this film; I wondered why he was suddenly going all Joe Colombo about depictions of Italian-Americans. It was an uncharacteristically strange review.
I will say this, I have plenty of Italian friends, their biggest complaint about mob movies dating back to the Godfather is that they always portray Italians as racist. But most mob movies are set in the 50's - 80's and everyone was racist back then.
My whole family is Italian and most of them are racist in some way or another towards various ethnic groups. That’s just how it was when they grew up. I don’t hold anything against them.
Italians were racist because a Americans were saying we took all there jobs and the Italians that couldn’t speak English would get made fun off. Italians weren’t only racist to blacks. They were racist to American ppl because they were being rude first. That’s what I been told
I started watching Michael’s channel when he first started. I am from NY I also worked in the Building Trades.in NYC. I was in the Concrete workers Union pouring high rise concrete for the largest. Concrete company called Dic-Concrete on the eastern seaboard. We were talking though the comment section, Michael had another game we’re if paid money to him, you were given direct access to his business knowledge. I am a born again Christian, some of the biggest crooks are TV pastors and just a preacher in charge of a church, which is a considerable large amounts of money. Only God knows our hearts my friend. Love your channel, God bless my friend. Alex
To be fair the people that were killed were also in the mob. The mob didnt go out and kill innocent civilians. At least not the ones who were sane. And when someone did die, it was usually because that person broke the oath. And by breaking that, they knew the consequences
Wtf are you taking about the killed civilians all the time! All the straight arrow business owners and union officials who didn’t wanna deal with the mob got killed for one reason or another theirs a famous case where gas pipe killed two brothers because they didn’t wanna pay shakedown money and told the fbi. They are not men of honor or Robin Hood type people yoy watch too many movies.
It's so stupid to think that in a show or a movie all characters have to be perfect and have morals. This guy sounds like a Karen complaining about the language and violent stuff.
I used to be subbed to him and he has some interesting takes on mafia related movies and things but overall I got irritated over time by him and when he did do a few Soprano reviews they were sloppy, like it came off as if he barely watched the show and for sure wasn’t paying attention to details.
Clarity on Franzese’s viewing of The Sopranos: Yes, he stated something like he’d only seen the first season. More recently, he said he had finished watching all the seasons. Also, I believe he was stating the status of The Sopranos as a great series because it is frequently stated to be so from an objective perspective: apparently the first of its kind as a series, realistic dialogue (much of which, according to David Chase, was taken from federal wiretaps when Giuliani went after them), whole new generation watching, adding to fan base which is STILL growing, etc. The statement isn’t necessarily Franzese offering his opinion. I appreciate your take on Franzese’s review - and now I might actually watch The Many Saints of Newark tonight! Thank you for doing what you do on this channel :-)
The absolute irony of complaining about """woke""" and his whole review is complaining about being offended by negative stereotypes, not of Italian Americans in general, but specifically stereotypes of friggin mobsters. Like he's genuinely offended that the movie depicted mobsters as being abusive and racist?? You can't make this up 🤣🤣
It's all a part of his marketing plan..making this film out to be like a real family. He's also very hypocritical at times. Excellent critique, great points made.
I'm so glad you made this video, I watched Franzese's review and I was just as baffled by everything he said about it as you were, this video sums up exactly how I felt about it. Thanks!
Franzese always reminds me of the line Tony told the rat while murdering in College. Something to the effect of that for wise guys, the hustle never ends.
That’s why he’s a pastor 😂 he’s not done scamming innocent people. He’s so Christian but the first thing he says is chase is lucky I’m not a mob guy anymore. Like a movie has you ready to harm a man because you didn’t like it?
I'm glad you made this video. When I saw Franzese's Many Saints review I left a comment, basically saying everything you said in your video knowing Franzese, or probably anyone would ever read it. Hopefully he sees your video and realizes what a contradictory ass he made of himself
I love Michael Franzese, I think he has absolutely amazing videos with movie reviews and mafia stories. This review just wasn’t it, his past life bias got in the way of the review
I remember when this video came out few months ago and I was a fan of his channel until this. He seemed to be a genuine guy (as much as a "reformed" mobster can). But this was just plain as day pandering bulls/it meant to gain clicks from people unfamiliar with the channel. Glad you're calling him out.
I to, was flabbergasted by his hypocrisy on this review. But, you know who he sounds like? The former leader of his family Joe Colombo. He was an activist against anti-Italian discrimination all while doing mob business.
As someone who is subscribe to Michael‘s RUclips channel and I follow him on social media, I really like Michael a lot and I do think he is a good guy but you hit the nail on the head in this video. I’m not saying because I don’t agree with Michael on a movie that I hate him now and I’m going to be one of these trolls online just harass him endlessly, it’s nothing like that but I had the exact same feelings you did when I watched his review. And like you I am perfectly OK if Michael didn’t like the movie, I enjoyed the movie but I would never say it’s in the top 10 best gangster films of all time or even that it was as good as the Sopranos series even. I admit that the movie did have some problems, I felt like they were trying to slam three stories into a two hour movie and I really do think it would’ve benefited from being a 10 episode series on HBO or something like that. But yeah just like you my mouth was literally hanging open and listening to Michael‘s review and not only that he contradicted himself probably three times in his review. One minute he sitting there saying that he and his father had black friends and then the next minute he’s admitting that there were a lot of people in the mafia that were prejudiced in the 60s and 70s. And no where in the movie did they blame the race riots on the Italians I don’t know where Michael is getting that from. And to sit here and start shaming mafia guys in a movie because they’re doing bad things but then just months earlier you’re praising other movies that do the exact same thing that your damning this one for was just astonishing. I really think the whole place this was coming from with Michael was really just his political ties. Michael doesn’t hide the fact that he is a Republican and I have no issue with that at all he can be whatever party he wants to be a part of I don’t care but as an American I will tell you this the Americans that have made politics a big part of their life have completely lost the ability to call anything fair or down the middle. They wait to see where their side stands on an issue and then they use no free will or no free thought and they just blindly back that charge and will be willing to die on that political argument. The whole reason conservative sopranos fans hated this movie was because of the riots. They acted like the only reason the riots were in the movie was to show support for BLM. 1. That argument might have a leg to stand on if in the sopranos universe they never mentioned the riots like the riots in the Sopranos universe just didn’t happen and it was never brought up and never talked about in the series. It was brought up multiple times in the series and we even saw flashbacks to that time in the series. And this series was made way before the BLM movement over a decade before that movement. 2. It’s not like the movie at any point suggested that Harold and the black gangsters were the good guys just trying to fight off their Italian mafia racist opponents. Nope. Harold was working for Dickie and then he wanted to go into business for himself. At no point in this movie was Harold “The Good Guy” . Harold was just like everyone else in the movie. And I hate to say this because I do respect Michael a lot but dude get over it. It’s a movie about criminals just like Goodfellas and just like the godfather and guess what criminals a lot of them aren’t good people. The movie in no way portrayed one side is good and one side is bad it was just two different criminal factions and really it wasn’t even a war between two factions. It was a fight between two men. Hell we never even once saw Johnny boy or Junior or anyone else even give two shits after Harold and those guys jump them with guns. Apparently they were just worried about killing one of their own. They wanted to kill Dickie well junior date anyway. It’s not even like the mafia guys were after revenge after that. I just really think that if you go back and look at the week that he did the review and then go back and look at the other videos he was in on the valuentertainment channel around the same time he was really beating the political pulpit and so he was in a political mindset and when Americans get in a political mindset they cannot usually be fair or honest or rational. And both parties are like that I’m not saying that the left isn’t, there are plenty of close minded people on the left too. But it’s really sad because Michael normally is someone who does think things out. Even when he is having a political conversation he doesn’t just normally blindly just support whatever most people on the right think . For example he is one of the few conservatives that will come out and openly say that there is no proof that there was election fraud. Most conservatives today are hell-bent on the only reason Donald Trump lost was because there was election fraud but Michael isn’t one of those people. That’s really why I was just shocked to watch his review. This isn’t the smart Michael that think things out this was a different Michael than I had ever seen before. Anyway thanks for making this video. I don’t know how to make RUclips videos but after watching Michael’s review I almost wanted to do the same kind of video you just did because someone needs to pointed out because there are a lot of people that don’t think you can debate Michael because he was a former mob guy. If we’re talking about the real life going on in the mafia day today then no none of us are qualified to debate him. But in the world of movies and television I think it’s more than ok. I guess my biggest problem with the people that say that the riots or what made this movie bad smart thing to say because then you’re giving a pass to all of the other issues this movie had and you’re saying if that one thing was left out that this movie would be a perfect movie and it wouldn’t. So it’s not about defending whether or not the movie is good or not it’s more about just calling someone out because they’re contradicting themselves a lot and being very hypocritical when it comes to other mob movies and television shows.
Well, the movie sucked anyway. The marketing made it seem like it was about Tony himself, but instead it was about the things that happened around him. It wasn't even from his point of view. It was from the point of view of his uncle.
Was going to bring up A Bronx Tale and Chazz Palminteri being on his channel. I should have known you wouldn't have missed that. Keep up the good work!
Also, why was he so offended by the patricide in this movie when he has literally claimed multiple times that he knew two guys in the mob who had to kill their own father because he broke the rules?
Bruh, that story is a lot different from what happened in the movie. Dickie killed his father out of anger and those two brothers killing their father was a ordered hit.
Regardless, if mobsters have killed their own relative many times in the past over business, then someone killing their own father due to rage at him abusing his wife isn't that far fetched. If I remember correctly Dickie also said that his dad used to beat his mom as well and beat him as a kid, so it makes sense.
@@jurajkadasi324 it's not unusual for relatives to kill each other in the mob. Sammy Gravano killed his own brother in law, for instance. Dickie and his father were both criminals with access to weapons, it was bound to happen. Code or no code, they are people at the end of the day. It's meta-knowledge that Dickie and his brother killed their dad. As far as the rest of Jersey knows, someone else killed him. It's meta-knowledge that Tony kills Christopher, but to everyone else it was an accident.
The story of Franzese and his father walking into Buddah Records and putting a gun to the owners face to steal his money did more to make them look bad. I liked Yummy Yummy.
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Yes it’s a garbage film. One of the worst films I’ve seen over the last 10 years.
Brilliant editing Cineranter.When you go from Franseze to Ray Liotta pissing himself I loved it.Still love the new opening credits.Great work as usual mate.
@@IvanLendl87 Spot on.Such a disappointment.The only good thing was the twist of how the trailer makes you think Dickie is visiting his dad in prison but even that was a bad call along with the many others in the film.But I think Cineranter makes good points here.There’s nothing here that wasn’t in the Sopranos.It was just a poor,poor movie start to finish.
Nothing ridiculous about Fransezes take on the movie, he called it like he saw it, it was really bad (some of us let the sentimental aspect dictate our views) this movie was a waste.
Film was garbage and no matter how I like the Sopranos, that sentimental nonsense won't ever make me like a movie that's crap
He’s right about one thing-it was a big disappointment. Especially for longtime fans of the series.
As a long time fan I loved it. So many references to the series, and I loved hearing Christopher speak to us from beyond the grave.
@@dend1 me to
@@dend1 That's literally all it was. Just pointless fan service, characters who looked like they were parodying Sopranos characters with no other personality to them than their overdone mannerisms and in the end I was just left wondering "why the fuck was this even made?"
It was entertaining for a fan of the show, but the movie was a complete plotless dumpster fire.
@@drivernephi2212 Yes as a huge fan I was so disappointed in this movie I was actually upset. It felt like a fan of the series made a parody of a movie and not Chase himself. I do have to say the actor playing young Silvio was put in a no win situation. Because Van Zandt played the character with such extreme mannerism had the actor playing the young Silvio downplayed it, people would say they didn't even realize it was Silvio because he had none or little of the mannerism.
@@dend1 Lol second rate fan service.
The whole you’re making mob guys look bad, has to be the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. 🤦🏻♂️
He did say afterward “We don’t need any help in looking bad” or something along the lines
I like Michael a lot. I think he is a good dude but he’s also been pounding the political pulpit a lot these past few months and I think that’s the real reason that he had an issue with this movie. I’m not a democrat or a republican, I don’t believe one side is all good in the other side is just evil for the sake of being evil I think that’s a little ridiculous but I have Seeing all the conservative Sopranos fans be up in arms because they’re referring to the Newark riots as a BLM thing in the movie. Do you know if they would’ve never have brought the riots up in the original series 3 different times then I could kind of see the argument. But the riots were brought up in the original series no less than three times and then they make a prequel that is going to take place during that time and everyone knew that we were going to see part of the riots in this movie. So I don’t really buy this whole thing that the whole reason David Chase made this movie was to make a BLM statement. Especially if you’re covering a time in history where this actually happened and you already referred to it several times in the sopranos universe. So I really think he’s using that anger about that and then using that as an excuse to rip on this movie. But the crazy thing is that Micheal has no problem with Godfather, Goodfellas and regular episodes of the Sopranos but to say TMSON makes Italians look bad and the others don’t is very Hypocritical.
@@bdr113080 lol BLM? Idiots who think about it that way... BLM ✊🏿 BLM ✊🏿 BLM ✊🏿 !!!
"Is this movie an attack against the mob???"
@@fluoridejunkie this movie isn’t about anything.
Michael: "Disturbed people beat people, not the mob"
Sooo... the mob aren't disturbed? Isn't that why he left?
Shall we discuss Willie Moretti or Tommy DeSimone there Michael?
I think he actually left because of Rico, the sophisticated surveillance equipment being brought to bear, and the stiff prison sentences being handed out. I doubt seriously it was because the mob was made up of disturbed individuals.
@@peterblood50 so your argument is that being not disturbed by the casual violence of organized crime is normal?
@@peterblood50 i think he says that's a big part of why he left
@@TingTingalingy yup. And he didn't participate in violence. Not a street or tough guy. He was a money marker and that was it.
@@dqreps that's not entirely true. He does, in more recent videos, mention how as a soldier he did some roughing ppl up and stuff. He doesn't say it exactly that way but definitely alludes to it.
Michael: "This work of fiction gives mob guys a bad name! Im outraged and offended by this movie!"
Me: "Silly me. I thought all those real-life murders gave mob guys a bad name. I stand corrected: Mob guys are great men who should be respected and would never hurt anyone."
His point was about how they shit on itallian ameticans and made the mob seem overly careless and stupid
Exactly and now Mike makes money from it that very image. Michaels a walking contradiction
He literally said in the video that he’s aware how brutal the life he lived was. There’s no need to make them look worse than they already are.
You guys really don't get it, do you? American GI's also murder people and we consider them great men.
Subversive parasites are worse than murderers
I love mob movies, but championing these monsters needs to stop. It would be like cheering for Michael Myers or Freddy Kreuger just because they started a podcast.
He probably took the name many saints too seriously and expected the mobsters to be really portrayed as saints
😂😂😂 It's not what it says on the tin!
😂😂😂
He was a saint!
Michael started out on RUclips being extremely level headed and down to earth. This movie review he did seemed to be rge turning point. He seems far more "back in my mob days" in a tough guy way now. He just had a full-blown argument with Sammy the bull on Valuetainment as well. I can't help but think the RUclips fame / money has effected him.
Honestly ever since he started doing the Valuetainment videos is when he really started to change I think. It’s really sad because I do like Michael , I think he is a genuinely good person but just like other people in my life that I actually know as people in real life that are good people sometimes politics make people blind. I don’t care which side of the fence he’s on I have friends on both sides but before he started going on their RUclips channel he was much more levelheaded and seem to have cold things down the middle and I really do think his entire rant about the movie just because he was in this mindset of that hard-core Republican that is just looking to get offended by things like that. There wasn’t any more racism in this movie than there was in movies like Goodfellas or the Sopranos series and I’m glad in this video he actually talked about it because Michael gives high praise to the series but you can tell he hasn’t watched it because the same stuff in this movie is in the television series. And it’s not like they made one race the good guys and one raised the bad guys in this movie. It’s a movie about criminals Michael so yes everyone in the movie was portrayed as a bad guy not because of the race but because they were criminals. He started linking the riots as the main problem between the Italian guys in the black guys in the movie and that wasn’t really it at all. The riots lead Herald down a path that made him change things but it’s not like he blamed the Italians for the riot and they even went out of their way in the movie to point out that the black guy in the cab was never actually killed . The riots were started in the movie because of the police not because of the mafia. I think Michael was just so angry about the political things he’s been talking about on their RUclips channel and he is that that’s just where his mindset was he was just enraged about politics so when he saw that it really triggered him. And hey I get it and I do think there are some movies that go out of their way to try to be overly woke and put the agenda before the story and I admit this movie was not a perfect movie. I think it would’ve been a lot better if they broke it down to like a 10 episode miniseries and really flushed everything out myself but I don’t think that they were trying to be woke when they made the movie. Good luck trying to have an adult discussion with anyone who is in that mindset though because even if you try to have a polite adult discussion I’ve found that they just fly off The handle and starts calling you a snowflake without even finding out what your view on anything was.
'RUclips fame / money has effected him.' its pretty obvious you have no clue who he is and shouldent judge everyone can be offended by diffrent stuff atleast his a valued point than most of you others has today...he was a millioner and famouse already when in the mafia so i doubt it exrermty much you just bullshiting and finding a reason to 'prove' hes faking his turn around in life etc its more the climate of the world and usa after the corona and sensles hate and violence he often against...
about sammy yeah ofcourse? what you guys thing sammy calling him out and sammy act more gangster still and his a real rat than michael he just ascerted his position showin sammy couldent scare him cause of his reputation and he diffrence himself to sammy being a gangster michael call and see himself as a rackateer not a gangster he were in for the money and thought could help his father more and droped out of school if recall he study to be a doctor
That kind stupid money or fame he was already famous and for sure rich as shit feds cant possibly get all the money he had like that 50 million he buried somewhere
@@billdehappy1 Tbf, how much of that money would he have kept after going to jail decades ago.
@@DanJuega tbf you know the absurd amount of youtubers earn be succesfull also to host such seminarium as he do and speak to youth inmates the state pay for then the books and wine etc as being the typical mafia they allways had some legal buissness launder money he is producer of movie and music..
So yeah no ill think he be more than settled without any need to resort to petty crimes now days i promise you
"What ever happened to Gary Cooper?" LMFAO!!!
I agree.. there's so much irony in Michael's rant about the movie..
Great analysis, Mr. C! Thanks !
I think he mistook the film for a dramatic retelling of history. He says “That never happened” so many times during the review. I respect the guy, but he needs to realize that this movie isn’t based on real life events, and that these characters don’t exist.
He sold his soul years ago, now he's desperate to buy it back. C'mon is this necessary?? lol . Mob guys look bad?? lol
He was offended because In short he felt that the movie depicted Italian American men as misogynistic and racist towards blacks….
Well if its a mob movie and they're forcing in ridiculous things I have no problem with him calling that out. Your touching on the real riots then suddenly adding absurd things like blacks having shoot outs with Italians.
@@PhilipRGarza Still a scam artist pushing Godfather movie myths of mob life Bernie Madoff was good story teller
The very characters he’s offended by are no better than the real life scumbags he actually knew. As if being a soulless murderer, a loan shark, a drug dealer, and a knee breaker is somehow better than being a racist.
You’re right he must have been having a “bad day” the day he taped that review. I saw that episode and was a little shocked when he said what he said about David Chase😳
It also could just be he only listened to reviews of people he LIKED, then based it on what was said.
I like Michael but I think his real hatred for this movie is less about it making Italians look bad and I wish she didn’t say that because this is the same guy that has no problem with the godfather, good fellas and other gangster movies where they depict Italian mafia members doing terrible things. But if you’re going to give all of those movies a pass and see this one makes Italians look bad that just seems really hypocritical. I think his main problem with this movie that he will never Come out and admit is that at the same time that he saw this movie he’s been in on that other RUclips channel that’s supposed to supposedly air the sit down between him and Sammy the bull and that’s actually a political channels. Those guys talk politics on that channel every day and Michael is a diehard Republican. Every conservative that I’ve known that has watched the movie really get upset because they showed the riots in there. They’re using it as an excuse to accuse David Chase of trying to make a woke movie and while I agree there are definitely movies and television shows that have fake woke Messages in them I don’t think that’s what David was doing it all. They mention the riots in the Sopranos series 3 different times and we all knew going into this movie that it was going to take place during the time of the riots. It would be something totally different if in the original series they acted like the riots never happened in the sopranos universe and then just introduced us to these real life events for the first time in the sopranos university next movie but that’s not what happened. So I think it’s more about his political ties then “ oh no they’re making Italians look like bad guys in the movie because they’re committing crimes” really? The same guy that loves the godfather, casino, Goodfellas etc.?
I don't think he was serious I disagree with him on a lot but I highly doubt he meant that
@@bdr113080 I grew up in Chicago during the time period depicted. Half my family was connected to the Chicago Outfit by marriage (none made members, just associates to my knowledge). Through these people I knew several soldiers and associates of the Lucchesi Family out of NY. The fact is, Italians hated blacks, looked at them as sub-human and would literally kill them on site if caught in an Italian neighborhood after dark. They would stuff the bodies into the sewer as a warning. So yes the movie is somewhat accurate in that aspect except it did not go nearly far enough in the violence of Italian mobsters against blacks in general. Franzese claiming that never happened is an outright lie and a massive one at that. Italians are extremely conservative as it is and the only reason any of them voted democrat was because of union membership. Once the unions lost power, almost all of those Italians went full republican.
@bdr113080 I think you're oversimplyfying his arguments. His problem isn't that they portrayed mobsters bad, it's they over exaggerated how mobsters acted. As he mentioned no mobster would just immediately go into racist mode like johnny boy did after coming back from 4 years in prison. Similarly no mobster would be as volatile as dickie was. The point is that it's not authentic at all
Also, he said this was making mob guys look bad. BRUH YOU WERE IN THE MOB. You made yourself look bad.
Tbf, I think Franzeze just didn't like how they made basically every mobster to be murderous psychopaths. Mobsters are bad obviously but not every mobster would just be able to casually able to kill their goomars like dickie does. Chase basically over exaggerated just how psychotic mobsters were
@@olofacosta3192depends who it is. Tommy desamone, who was depicted in goodfellas as tommy, was sociopathic, when he would get a new gun he would walk into the street and shoot a random person to try out the gun. And his treatment of spider, which is based off a real event
@@olofacosta3192they wouldn’t? How do u know they wouldn’t kill their cumares
sopranos show showed how bad the crews were in realistic ways. MS is simply a joke. like it was written by 20 year old SJW blue haired lesbians who've never seen Sopranos, have no idea on Mafia/NY/NJ history, and were only hired because that's all Hollywood can legally hire for projects anymore. if you white and like sex with women you literally cannot find work in Hollywood anymore. fucking insane time we live in. and honestly if those unqualified people would just make good media i couldn't care less you was working behind the scenes. but from writers, directors, actors, below the line people, from top to bottom it's filled with people who don't belong there. of course except for the shot callers way at the top. those Jews studio owners won't be replaced by POC Tranny Black Women of Colour any time soon, I guarantee it.
Right! Where does he think the creators and directors of these Mob movies got their info? Lol 😂 Kinda silly if you ask me
It wasn't a terrible film because of the points Michael Franzese said.
I was a terrible film because it was a terrible film!
It wasn't terrible just underwhelming. Like it didn't serve much purpose other than a bit of nostalgia. Unnecessary if you will.
@Sith Jawa No it was a terrible film in my opinion.
2 hours of my life wasted!
They sold us that film using The Sopranos & we got a namedrop, a few familiar characters & a couple of Easter Eggs for a film about……..I still don’t know.
Is it a gangster film? a man coming to terms with himself? Coming to America? American life in the 60s & 70s.
It’s not about the riots, which deserves a whole film in itself tbh, not the 20 mins of on-off screen time.
Also “I have a murder warrant but the lead detective died……so it’s ok.”
What!!!!!??????
Not even “Someone else ate the charge.”?
Lazy storytelling!
The acting was great & the setting was amazing, but the MSoN is a complete write-off.
It pains me to say that.
They let all Sopranos fans & all the actors down with this bust!
This is the JaMarcus Russell of films!
@@TheGhostDogg100 Nah it sucked. One of the worst films I've ever seen, and I've seen over 3500.
Agreed
It wasn't a great film but I think people had high expectations of a Sapranos movie and it wasnt
But he liked a bronx tale which also depicted that type of thing between whites and blacks
Except a Bronx tale was a better movie then many saints of Newark. But I don't get some of Michael's rants. Mob guys aren't good people. Organized crime in general is bad. It doesn't matter who's doing it. The mob is bad, gangs are bad, the cartels are bad. Outlaw motorcycle clubs are bad. Prison gangs are bad. Criminality as a whole is bad. Organized or petty level.
Also mob guys beating their women? They showed that in the godfather, raging bull. Goodfellas, the sopranos, all the time. And they cheat on their women all the time too. They again showed that in all those other films and shows
Bronx tale was a more realistic depiction
Italians are not whites. Jews are not whites. Irish people are not whites.
Franzese is a horrendous reviewer of movies in general. He is like the therapist who listens to your problems briefly and interjects how he went through a similar problem and then pontificates whatever message he has on his mind… he does that in his movie “reviews” which are often recounting and summarizing and then talking about himself.
I think Michael does a great job
@@soulsurfer639 Nah he's a clown. Constantly embellishes his own life story and gives zero insight in his reviews and always tries to resort back to himself.
@@doctorblue6375 Haha of course he talks about himself, he's one of the last old school Brooklyn capos to still be breathing. Why do you think people interested in the mafia click on to his podcasts? to hear about his life.
I think Mike has way more credibility to judge a mob flick than cinaranter... or you lol
The Many Saints was a woke piece of garbage that flopped at the box office... so I'd say Mike was spot on 🎯
@TZADDIKIM 1 a.k.a OMEGA RINSE Haha you sound like my ex girlfriend 🤣
I am a peaceful soulsurfer 🏄♂️ 🙏!
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He didn't even drown her because Harold was black. He was the only person there who liked and trusted Harold. He drowned her because Harold betrayed him on every level at that point and he was furious.
If that were true he would have killed Harold not her. It was 100% liberal propaganda and you fell for it hook line and sinker
I'm thinking that the father aspect of this is what hit close to home. Especially the discrepancies of how Johnny boy was portrayed by Tony and how he really was. I personally found that interesting, yet I see Michael talk highly of his dad, but it's obvious his father was the primary reason for his families tragic turn. And Michael has profited off of it. That said, I do enjoy his channel because, at the end of the day, most of us are flawed human beings.
This feels like a personal beef with David Chase. Maybe there's some bad blood between them?
I'll tell you one thing and I'm not ashamed to say it, my estimation of Michael Franzese as a man just fucking plummeted.
give him a break would ya. it’s an emotional day.
this would have more likes if people knew this was a reference to the comment to another video lmao
Everything he said was correct. That prequel movie was a disaster, and really undermined the series overall.
😮😮😮🤣🤣🤣🤣
The right wing bs didn't do it
His whole “men didn’t beat their wives” blew my mind. Such a load of bullshit. The Italian side of my family was very aggressive and physically abusive to their wives and often times their children.
@TZADDIKIM 1 a.k.a OMEGA RINSE shows how negative your memories are that you identify completely with mom's side,
congrats real life mob guys are better family to their own and husbands than urs. its just u pal
I personally didn't like this movie that much but felt Michael's review of it was melodramatic. There's plenty of fair criticism of this movie and yet I disagreed with almost everything he said. He nit picked every little thing to stimulate his animosity about a film he didn't like.
Yeah it’s far from the perfect Mall movie. There were things about it I really liked but overall I really wish it would’ve been like a 10 episode miniseries with every episode being an hour long. You stretch all of what happened out across 10 hours and you drop an episode a week so we’ve got 2 1/2 months to watch it and we get to know some of these older characters that weren’t in the original series a little better I think it would’ve been much better received. And I don’t care who likes it or who doesn’t like it that doesn’t affect how I view the movie at all and as someone who likes Michael a lot I really do think that ever since he’s been on the valuentertainment Channel a lot that he’s been very worked up into politics and I think the whole race riots part of the movie kind of triggered him and that’s all he could think about. But it really does feel like he only have paid attention to the movie because nowhere in the movie did it say that the black gang or the good guys in the Italian mafia we’re just these racist evil people. The movie was about criminals so everyone in the movie regardless of the race was doing shady shit. There wasn’t a “good guy “in this movie. He really needs to watch the entire series of the Sopranos though before we start saying some of these things because to anyone trying to just judge this fairly we can all tell that if he would’ve watched the whole series that all of this stuff was in the original series it’s not like that was added into the movie because they were trying to give a political message the Sopranos has never been about that. They’re going to put what’s in the story in the story regardless how anyone feels about it. That’s what made the series “groundbreaking “was they Push the envelope and didn’t really care who was offended but they never push the envelope for the sake of pushing it though it always match the story.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought he was acting weird in his review of the movie. Fun fact when he was complaining about Dickie murdering his father but in one of his videos he actually talks about a mobster and that mobsters brother who he knew who was ordered to kill their father and did so. So we know that patricide is something the mob will do.
His whole rant was nonsensical and I think he either doesn't watch them or has missed the point of some of his favorite media in that the mobsters are portrayed as pieces of shit who leech of their communities and they were the ones who gave Italian Americans a bad name.
I think this whole situation showed that Mr.Franzese is a very talented speaker and businessman with interesting insight into the mob life, but personal experience with the media he talks about is sketchy and should be taken with a grain of salt.
You think someone who's had their face in newspapers hasn't had personal experience with the Media? And thats before all the interviews hes done since then.
I’m really glad you made this analysis. I watched his review wondering if I was the only one who disagreed. My father grew up in Newark during the time depicted in the movie. Stories he told me about growing up that there was heavy racial tension in certain areas. There’s many reference to that on the Sopranos series. I respect everyone right to their own opinion but that plot in the story was needed. If anything it shows the molding of Tony’s own ideology and prejudice as he got older.
Racial tensions were high across the entire country.
Yeah! Top comment
Yeah you’re not alone .And I’m someone that really likes Michael. I don’t agree with everything he does politically, I don’t consider myself a democrat or a republican but I always credited Michael because he seemed like he was a thinking man’s conservative. He’s one of the few people that are a conservative that has a platform like he does that will openly admit that there is no proof that the rigged. I’m not saying it was or it wasn’t but I’m just pointing out that the way he reviewed this movie is very inconsistent with the way that we know his mind to work up till now. I was really shocked when I saw his review and I was thinking the same thing you were. “ am I the only one that just feels like Michael is looking for a reason to not like this movie?” It’s one thing to not like a movie like the movie but I admit there were some problems with it it’s not a perfect movie by any means but the way Michael was going at it just seems really odd considering everything else he reviewed has the exact same kind of stuff in it but he never mentioned any of those things in the other reviews but for some reason in this movie he is hell-bent on dying on that hill.
@@bdr113080 Yeah. It was weird. I think maybe he just in a really bad mood when he watched it or something?
@Beaverish Buck Teeth But it was a story about them. It was a story about the Newark race riots. And what do you mean there was racial tension “for a valid reason”?
Mark my words! Franzese has got hidden beef, either he was knocked back for a consulting role or was refused premier tickets 🤣
This 💯 I couldn’t figure out where his emotional response to the film (and Chase) came from. Had to unfollow after that, it just didn’t add up and it didn’t come from an honest place.
@@52goldtop Not just because the movie is shit no?
@@tootsiroll4134 I agree it wasn’t a great film standing on its own, hopefully it’s a starter laying the groundwork for either a series or more prequel miniseries on HBO, but it’s not the merit of the film he seemed to have a beef with, it was all the other points he mentioned, points which are prevalent in pretty much every mafia related movie and series - some of which he gave high acclaim for. I’ve seen plenty of shitty films, but none of those made me want to indirectly threaten (probably not the right word) the writer/director…. That’s why I am guessing OP is saying that there’s more at play here… there was a very emotional response (and I get that he says this film makes all mob guys look bad, but so do all the other shows and films he claims he really enjoyed - Sopranos the series included)… hence the question.
Boom! You called it perfectly. He has NEVER been like this.
Something definitely tainted his opinion of David Chase, most likely, for him to take so much of the movie so personally.
I’m glad you made this video. I couldn’t believe how utterly stupid Franzese’s review of this was. He was actually saying a whole bunch of stuff that was addressed and mocked in the original Sopranos series. Ridiculous. And even his statement that a war between white and black gangsters over the numbers racket never happened is wrong. It’s not Newark in the 60s, but in New York in the 30s there was a war between Jewish gangster Dutch Shultz, backed by Italian gangster Lucky Luciano, and black gangster Bumpy Johnson, over control of the numbers racket in the black neighbourhoods in Harlem. Pretty much exactly the set up for the gangster conflict in this movie.
Yes....you are absolutely correct on this one. I'm from Philly and was from the gang streets of Philly. We had many issues with the Italian Mob. They even controlled the police department as well. Mike was not correct on this statements regarding black gangsters and the Italian mob. Shit was real back then. We had to carry and protect ourselves because they knew we were competitors in the game that they controlled
@@edwardhurdle5013 Yup, I remember my Grandfather telling me stories of how Puerto Ricans were essentially caught in the middle of all that mess, he used to work for the city near the docks and it was full of Italian Mafiosos.
To go along with that, a family friend of ours used to be a mailman for my grandpa's neighborhood and always had to leave the mail on the corner since the Italians would always chase and/or beat him for being on their block.
Insane to think where all that Italian power went.
Let's just forget about the Sopranos movie for a
second (Cineranter is just doing this to gain views) he reviews
movies right? He's never challenged anyone else's review of the movie. Hes seriously trying to call our Michael Franzese cause hes got numbers Cineranter doesn't? ,Cinerater CLOUT CHASING!! Looking for attention from a more important content provider Than him
@@edwardhurdle5013 Yeah. Good to hear your personal testimony man. I’m not from anywhere like that - I’m British - but I’ve seen enough accounts from people who were there to know it was going on. Good to have your good self let us know 👊
@@maylabrown4584 and you Mayla. Good to get your personal insight too! Cheers
Still waiting on that sitdown between Michael and Sammy on Valuetainment
patrick is a wannabe mobster lol
Yeah I thought exactly that when he has mentioned on many occasions that the Sopranos was the best series ever made and well written etc. Yet he has only seen a few episodes, I don't know how you could deem any series the best ever without seeing it all but for me especially the Sopranos as it all ties together and thats what gives it its charm and top level status.
I couldn't wrap my head around how he could find it offensive. I think he really just didn't like the movie because it wasn't like he experienced in his lifetime and couldn't relate.
Now I'm thinking like yourself has he actually even watched any of the Sopranos? Doesn't make sense why he would be offended by the violence and bad language used in the film. Should have made the film with no bad language, sex or violence or at least make the African Americans or some other race doing all of the above just for Michael.
Maybe he's motivated to tarnish the film and give it a bad review for some reason? I always found him interesting and enjoyed listening to him review things for an insight into the life but for me this review was bonkers.
I think he is just upset that the Criminals in the Movies are evil selfish sociopaths who leech on Society and life from the misery of others and are not despicted like the cool Robin Hood kind of Gangsters who works for the Community.
I mean did he even see Sopranos?
@@PeterClemenza he watched a few episodes apparently but it may have just been clips he had reviewed but not really sure.
The idea of removing the language and violence reminded me of the MADtv sketch showing what The Sopranos would look like if edited for content
ruclips.net/video/9RFdg4CHBgg/видео.html
😆 brilliant Joey Diaz as Pussy.
I think part of it is that he’s a dimented old bat
I didn't like the movie either, but Mike sounded a bit "woke" in that review. How dare you make criminals look bad in a movie about CRIMINALS.
True, I kind of had to call BS on there not being racial tension between Italians and black people in the 1950s-1960s. Now maybe Michael and his father weren’t racist themselves or ever had an issue with black people, but that wasn’t the majority zeitgeist of the era and there most definitely was tension especially in the 1950s/1960s. Think he took issue with Dickie calling Harold the N-word and Johnny boy being upset about blacks moving into the neighborhood; which you can’t deny wouldn’t of been an issue during those times again even if Michael isn’t racist nor minds having a black neighbor these days. Usually I agree with him but it’s not anti-Italian to point out that different ethnic groups had issues in a very tumultuous time period.
This just shows how woke means nothing.
@@lufsolitaire5351you sure you're not talking about the 1860s? 😂 lay off the historical revisionism for a while buddy
@@gordonhuskin7337lmao look up Michael Imperiali and the Catholic league. Just because you’re too stupid to open a book doesn’t mean that it didn’t exist.
@@DanJuega Franzese was not being woke. Just because some guy misuses the term on a RUclips comment doesn't mean it is meaningless. The disastrous prequal was woke, and it deserved to be criticised heavily.
I'm not ashamed to say it. My estimation of Michael franzese as a youtube personality just fuckin plummeted.
To cry like a little girl for 20 minutes straight, he's gone down in my estimation too
I have to agree with Phil on this one T
I get that reference lol
Nah, can't blame him for a lot of what he said. Nothing dishonest or inconsistent about his opinion, even if you disagree
"His fuckin coach turned into a pumpkin, heh heh"
an italian that was in the mafia is mad about how the media portrays italians
A Mexican that was in the cartel mad on how breaking bad portrayed the cartel
Franzese never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
And this goofy nerd who's never left his house? And spent most of his life in his moms basement, trying to gain views off using Michael Franzeses name in his title? That's a different typa lame
You're very observant, the sacred AND the propane.
Its just a joke ppl 🤣👌🏾
Never had making of a shinebox
@@rmcjason836the "mom's basement" line is such a gay boomer thing to say. It's also an old meme. Get a hold of yourself.
Thank you, I thought it was just me to be astonished by Michael’s reaction
You know, I had the exact same reaction as you did to Michael Franzese's video, and thanks to you I finally figured it out why he had gotten so weird on it: It hit too close to home. Guilt is bothering him after so many years being away from it all, and he's afraid people will look at the film and see him in that light after converting.
I don't know. Truthfully, there was a certain point when I felt like his mob video stuff just stopped being healthy for everyone involved. A lot of impressionable young people and sycophantic adults look up to him and I think him carving a niche as the "mob guy" is really starting to take it's toll psychologically (Like calling his get togethers "sit-downs", him almost glamorizing his nostalgic memories of the life.) It's not just him; Sammy really does seem like he would be back out there if he could.
Edit: Great, me editing my typos got rid of CineRanter's like. :/
That's because Sammy was... He was busted with an ecstacy ring
Sammy’s still a mob guy in his heart, 100%. I think he was way deeper in it “spiritually” than Michael ever was.
Sammy tells great stories but. And when you watch Sammy you know what your getting, a version of what he seen and done. I like Michael too but he has constraints that Sammy doesn't.
I respect you challenging the review. People run to judge art before they even digest it.
The movie is awful, though. Just not for the reasons Franzese gripes about.
Franzese also recently did a video where he again claims the mob didn’t deal drugs officially. “Deal and die” was Carlo Gambino, Paul Costellano, Joe Colombo and Carmine Persico’s policy he claims. Made guys who dealt did it secretly he says.
I’m thinking he must have forgotten about Carmine Galente, the Bonannos and the Sicilians’ (zips) heroin pipelines from Sicily, France and Canada into the US.
Michael at best has selective memory.
Franzese fails often to mention that. Deal and Die was a myth. Vito Genovese and Vincent "The Chin" Gigante went to prison on the same case as Galante back in 1959. The Cherry Hill Gambinos were the main crew selling heroin for the Gambino Family during Carlo's run as boss. Every family was running dope for years. A lot of the mobsters caught at Apalachin were in Harry Anslinger's Black Book for the Bureau of Narcotics dating back from 1930. Every boss received money from their crews that were dealing and turned a blind eye to where the money came from
Galante was killed in 79, Genovese died 10 years prior, and Chin was not heavy into drugs. Remember, Castellano was killed bc of wiretaps showing that the Gotti crew had dealed in drugs. They killed the boss bc they were about to be whacked. The Bonnanos were thrown off the commission because of drug dealing and their rep was brought back by Massino's efforts. Most of their money was made elsewhere by and large.
Axel Arroyo Since Galante, Genovese and Chin went to prison for Narcotics Conspiracy in 1959, begs to differ that they didn't dabble much. As far as Castellano, we all know why his murder went down, but we also know that he accepted large sums from the DeMeo Crew because they were heavily into drug sales, as well. The Bonannos had been off the Commission since the 60's. First, when Joe Bonanno attempted to move on Carlo Gambino and Tommy Lucchese. Next, when Galante tried to hijack the top spot, as well as not sharing his connections. Then finally, Donnie Brasco. By the time Massino got the Bonnanos back in the Commission it was 1992... In defense of Franzese, he does come from the one family (Colombo) that wasn't well known for Drug Dealing, unlike the other 4 families that have been involved with Drugs since before the formation of La Cosa Nostra... Even Luciano was once busted for Heroin Trafficking and he snitched on his confederates🤷🏾♂️
Axel Arroyo everything I laid out to you is Public Record. The myth of Deal and Die is hypocritical. While Bosses can turn a blind eye to the monies sent up, not every made guy or associate were great earners even in the traditional routes, such as loansharking, gambling, prostitution, etc... And most weren't smart enough to be in the real huge earnings, like construction and labor racketeering... In all honesty, drugs were the only route that lesser earning member could rely on
Thank you for this video. I tended to view Franzese's RUclips channel on a fairly consistent basis, but his review of The Many Saints is where the stuff I had set aside combined with inane logic that didn't add up. I can get and fully respect not wanting negative portrayals of ones group* being displayed without requisite counter balance, but the main characters in the TV Show were HORRIBLE people, by most measures, so his being taken aback by the negative roles being played in the movie rang of cognitive dissonance to me. I found the move to be 7.5 out of 10 imo. More of a great pilot to a hopefully impending new iteration of the show, than a great stand alone movie, His take was off putting to me, especially from a person of such high intelligence.
You hit the nail on the head mate. Well said.
I like Mike and his channel. but your correct in your review. He's a got a bit of a chip on his shoulder. and nobody has more blame to bear than the real organized crime figures he represented for years. Michael's rant was a disjointed mess. " You're making mob guys look bad"? Cmon Mike, you sound a little punchy.
Being mad for Making mobsters look bad… oh boy…
They do a pretty damn good job of that themselves
Leaving aside everything else, it is a pivotal part of The Godfather that disturbed men associated with organized crime beat their wives. It was one of the complaints the Mob Guys(tm) had back in the day when the book was published. There is a literal chapter that talks about how being beaten by your husband is not just tacitly approved but open and known. Turns out when you are a sociopath for a living, you live like a sociopath. If only there was a saying about Rome for that….
You hit it on the head when you said that something might have happened to Michael recently. From what I understand, there was a recent tragedy and a young boy died in his house. I think he poured a lot of the overflowing emotions from that incident into this review.
Michael is a clown, nothing more, nothing less. And of course he found god and is now beating that bible like it owes him money. I tell you this Mikey, if there is a god he ain't gonna want anything to do with your criminal ass.
Hmmm 🧐 & he probably got defensive because if they did an investigation, of course you might have to question the “former Mob Guy.” So yea… it’s more to it.
@@Ishbikesno it was his daughters boyfriend he died of an overdose
@@Galvatronover oh sure he did
THANK YOU!!! I’m so happy you made a video on this!! I watched Francezes review and unsubscribed immediately. The mob wasn’t racist?!!! The movie is offensive to mob guys!? I don’t care what you thought of the movie but that was the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard! He’s still running a racket. His “reviews” are basically just blow by blows anybody can do and he rarely gives any street insight from his experience.
He shares actual happenings in his life bro 😆 you gonna say it is all made up?
I thought Franzese's review was way off, but I still enjoy all his other content. Quit being so sensitive dude. They are just his opinions. Who cares.
I literally learned racial slurs from mob movies
What’s next, he watches all of Sopranos and is disgusted how homophobic the mob is? Lol
@@DarkIFaith homophobia is si not a thing. Sometimes ppl are just disgusted by other ppls practices. Doesn't make them bad
For someone being a former mobster, he gets offended a lot.
PC world has definitely run amok and an ex mob guy who wrings his hands over ‘mob violence or racial tension’, screams out hypocrisy😆
Just don't piss him off by saying, "oh you people"
He's Italian they get angry and offended as much as the woke leftists he hates
@@NA86737 I saw him and Sammy Graviano on that other channel arguing. Never thought I would side with Sammy the Bull on anything...but here we are.
triggered white man, it's basically a genre of podcast now.
I've watched every episode of the Sopranos nine times as it is the greatest TV show ever. I think The Many Saints of Newark was absolute crap.
Yep
Not the point of the video
At 17:36 Michael Franzese said.. "Is this necessary? It's an untrue story, not fact. Why put this stuff in there?"
it's a movie you absolute sponge. This guy must be looking for some kind of praise. What a goon.
Great vid as always Cine.
Well, people do tend to believe what they see in movies. In fact most do, especially when they portray a person or culture.
The only "sponge"here is you
@@TingTingalingyALL DUE RESPECT 🤗 I feel The Sopranos stands alone, on a ⛰ mountain top in the genre lol
he hosts motivational seminars for people. That's a praise magnet
When I watched Michael's review of the movie all his talk on racism just seemed off - It came across as if he was looking at things through modern 2020s eyes rather than that this was set some 50 years ago when things were quite different.
And it did seem inconsistent with his feelings about A Bronx Tale, a movie he loves and raves about, yet still has pretty much the same racial undertones ("Hey a black guy is walking down our street, lets go beat him and put him in the hospital" or "Hey for no reason lets go to the black community a couple of blocks away and shoot them just because they are there") but he didn't seem to take any offence to.
personally, i think it was cause of calogero falling in love with a black girl, and sonny supporting him. it more or less shows the good seeds, bad seeds, and mixed kinds of seeds within the community. i more or less have to agree with him on here. i dont really see any redeemable qualities from the italian-american community in this film
16:25 In A Bronx Tale the animosity between Italians and Blacks was actually more realistic with both sides chasing those from the other side that came into their neighborhoods. In The Many Saints of Newark, it was almost laughable at how they portrayed one side as some kind of bigoted people and the other as almost Christlike and never had a bad thought about anyone -- I mean, all of the characters on both sides are criminals that would rob and/or murder you given the chance. Sorry, but his point can be somewhat validated by the fact that the movie was a disappointment as a whole. Had Mr. Franzese made a similar point about The Godfather, then you could have made the point that he was being ridiculous. But the whole movie was actually kind of ridiculous and I think David Chase got so much money thrown at him and he wanted to so badly so have a Sopranos project on the big screen that he was forced to include some things that he never would have put in a Sopranos vehicle. And if you don't believe me, then why was he so outraged that it came out in theaters the same day that it was streaming online? That fact alone proves he did not have total control and was forced to bow to outside pressures including possibly having to put in ridiculous sub-plots...
Exactly
No black people we’re definitely victims of insane racism, don’t pretend like it was a level playing field. More white people were racist against blacks than the opposite, and blacks were systemically discriminated against too
"You know I gotta be honest with you
This review u made about michael franzese is absolutely offensive. It's not only offensive to me, but it's offensive to all Italian Americans. It depicts them in a bad way. Your review of michael also makes mobguys look bad which is very offensive. It's a very woke thing what u did here.
And forgot to mention for the hundredth time, Michael franzese is the former caporegime of the Colombo family and his father is an absolute legend that ran al capone out the door" says every 'woke' mob fanboy
(You're a fucking legend for making this review. Thanks for the laugh brother)
John Alite the legend 😂
I'm subscribed to both his channel and this channel. I watched his review to Many Saints when it came out. It couldn't finish it honestly. I had the same reaction you had.
I didn't really like his review. But this doesn't mean that some things that he said are not expected for a casual viewer. Honestly I am a big Sopranos fan but the movie did not really work for me. The plot lines were not very intersting. Harold stuff can be completely taken out and would not mean so much for me. It was rushed. Raised some continuity concerns with what we know from the show. Not a bad movie necessarily but not good either. Just average. I am not in a hurry to watch it again anytime soon. Franseze is wise , I love listening to him. Doesn't mean I have to agree with everything he says.
Yes, but everything you said there is a legitimate critique on the artistic merits. The “this is offensive to Italians” stuff is completely whack
@bogdan Agree with you on it being rushed. There just wasn’t enough context for it to have such a large role in the movie. Like if it was discussed in the show, the relationship between Dickie and Harold, it would make a lot more sense. I just can’t personally recall this relationship being discussed during the Sopranos. Given that, it being a big part of the movie just made no sense to me. I’m just like why am I supposed to care about this? Like thanks for covering this but since it was barely discussed I felt like I was missing something when I watched the movie. Turns out I didn’t. I’m all for the plot but it just didn’t deliver.
Some of the contradictions can be explained as in The Soprano’s flashbacks are from Tony’s POV and he’s an unreliable narrator and the movie is what actually happened. For example, in the show Tony comes home all cocky after his dad is arrested, talking to Livia like he’s an adult, saying he knows what’s up. In the movie Tony is brought home by the cops and is scared of Livia, which is definitely more consistent with what we saw of their present day relationship on the show. Even in most of the flashbacks Tony terrified of his mother and her wrath. Wouldn’t put it past him to remember his younger self being more like the “man” of the house when his dad got arrested versus the terrified child he actually was.
I couldn’t agree with you more. I actually watched his movie review when he released it. Everything you said in this video is what I was thinking when I watched his review. I was like” Did he even watch an of the series or Mob Movies. Hell Bronx Tale is a lot about racism. I can go on and on. I unsubscribed from him when I watched his review.
? Why I mean you may not agree with his interpretation of the movie ( I also do ) but he’s still making great content
I also remember watching this when it came out and being like “what the fuck is he on today?”
A Bronx Tale was racist as hell and Tony himself was a racist ass person smh but Many Saints was the film that made feel disgusted lmao
@@cuturu8724 I don’t disagree that a Bronx Tale was racist, it’s… a product of its time, to say the least. But do you think that the people involved were, for lack of a better word, malevolent, or that they just missed the mark? I don’t really know how to feel about it either way and you’re one of the only people (kind of strangely) I’ve heard express this sentiment, is why I ask
@@troyob3783he’s a political partisan hack like Fox News and cnn
Both Franzese and Gravano remind me of the song "Glory Days", getting their 'mob fix' by telling stories from their past.
"Remember when..." is the lowest form of conversation.
It is their living at this point. They can't go back to crime for another time. These people are the generation of mafia that born and bred entirely in America. Franzese is a nepo baby. When he was first arrested, he flipped. So did Gravano. They are too used to comfort and did not want to be suffering in prison or do an honest work.
Watched the movie w my grandmother, born 1943 in Newark. She said the only thing that wasn’t accurate was that they weren’t portrayed racist enough.
Man I have been watching your videos for a few months now and I really love your content and breakdowns of mafia movies. But this video made me really love your channel. I saw Michael Feanzese’s review of many saints and I thought it was embarrassing and so far off that it made me dislike him so much. You nailed every single ridiculous thing he said, straight up everything I had an issue with. I always thought he was an interesting guy but his review made me think twice about him because of the bullshit he brought up and the way he was “offended” by the movie. He clearly hasn’t even seen the whole sopranos series. It’s funny because most people think the sopranos is just about portraying the mafia but it’s really so much more than that and I know you know that. And it’s hilarious to me that all of the psychology and meaning of the sopranos and more particularly the many saints of Newark just goes over this guys head. I was hoping someone would call him out for his bs review and I’m not surprised that it ending up being you.
Michael did a whole episode on the importance of holding politicians accountable, whilst saying constantly "thats all i'll say on that" to avoid accountability for multiple crimes 🤣🤣
i mean, he was on the opposite side of the law. they typically dont want to be held accountable, and the law is supposed to catch, or stop them. politicians on the other hand, they just do it and get away with it while the others watch. if i recall, they should be public servants upon getting into office, not criminals themselves
I enjoyed his review but it was clear he didnt get the point of the movie relating to the cinematic universe the story takes place in
He never fully watched the sopranos and didn’t even know Silvios name. This guy can be a major joe jerkoff
@@Luxarium yea i think that stuff about sopranos in the begining of the vid was all lip service
The people who wrote the movie seem to forgot the cinematic universe it takes place in. I've never seen so many inexcusable continuity flaws in my life. They didn't care when they wrote this movie
This movie does not take place in the same universe as the Sopranos. This is Sopranos done "CNN style".
So the guy who loves other mob movies and was actually in the mob is taken back and offended by violence and racist language in a mob movie? Gimme a break. For the record, I also thought the movie sucked, but come on
You're analysis was spot on!! I love Franzese his channel, but sometimes he has these unexplicable blind spots for a man of his intelligence. This review of the Many Saints was one of them and his complete und utterly ridiculous denial that the American Mob wasn't heavily involved in the heroin trade, is another. Maybe the Colombos weren't in it that much in his time, but the Bonannos and Gambinos were controlling the East Coast and Mid-West market in the 70's and 80's. Plus the founder of the modern American mafia, Lucky Luciano, was involved in the Trans Atlantic heroin trade from the beginning.
In this case I think he was extra emotional though, because a short time before this review his daughter's boyfriend died of an overdose in his house..
You are so correct, I felt the same way about how he was judging the film from an emotional point of view.
I Really like Michael Franzese , I just don’t agree with his review on the many saints of Newark , But hey everyone have they own opinion and I think he was just mad and at the heat of the moment
Franzese's white fragility is paper thin
CineRanter with the preemptive “I’m not from the US” disclaimer in case Franzese comes looking for trouble 😂
Michael needs to watch the Sopranos episode called Unidentified Black Males. He could learn a lot from that episodes lol.
You thinking some show is gonna educate a guy, that characters in that show were based off of?
@@TingTingalingy not to mention he is over 70. He's done learning
@@brandonwright3553 he’s an ignoramus
Yeah, I was disappointed by Many Saints of Newark, and I also follow Frazese's channel. I also found it odd that he had such a reaction to this movie. Made me suspect that there was something else behind the scenes that got him mad.
He’s never watched the sopranos especially not the Columbus episode lol
dude calls himself a christian yet wishing death on someone, im sick of people who fall for all these youtube figures
His channel is just a front for christianity, and his own bullshit.
@@theunholinesswithin3601 yes, propaganda for the willful ignorant
Where did he say he wishes death on anyone?
That is pretty christian lol
He didn't wish death on anyone though lol
Many Saints was not even close to the same quality as the Sopranos
I'm a big Franzese fan but felt exactly the same as you. I don't think he's as big a fan of The Sopranos as he's made out. I commented on his video at the time:
I would say that if you actually watch The Sopranos, there is much worse language (seeing as you said "they said some very offensive things, the language is terrible"), a lot more violence towards women (remember Ralphie's storyline and his demise in the series?), a lot stronger a portrayal of Mob guys as racist (see the episode Unidentified Black Males), and a lot more sex scenes and nudity (seeing as you said it was "unnecessary" in this film)
Suddenly he’s the foremost authority
The Many Saints Of Newark came out 2 months ago and not too many people liked it. No one even talks about the movie now, what a shame I liked it IMO
I wanted to leave a detailed review...I compromised...I paid homage to Frank Vincent and the Sporanos instead.
lemme tellya a couple a three things
I don’t think his take is ridiculous because of his hypocrisy being an ex mobster, I think it has to do with his hypocrisy being born again.
The Newark riots happened so I think that's how he took it as truth and not fiction.
naturally , he's a right wing apologist for Kyle Rittenhouse. His survival is not a miracle, it's a travesty
Well said. I was perplexed by Franzese’s commentary about this film; I wondered why he was suddenly going all Joe Colombo about depictions of Italian-Americans. It was an uncharacteristically strange review.
I will say this, I have plenty of Italian friends, their biggest complaint about mob movies dating back to the Godfather is that they always portray Italians as racist. But most mob movies are set in the 50's - 80's and everyone was racist back then.
My whole family is Italian and most of them are racist in some way or another towards various ethnic groups. That’s just how it was when they grew up. I don’t hold anything against them.
Italians were racist because a Americans were saying we took all there jobs and the Italians that couldn’t speak English would get made fun off. Italians weren’t only racist to blacks. They were racist to American ppl because they were being rude first. That’s what I been told
Because most Italians especially East Coast Italians are racist
I started watching Michael’s channel when he first started. I am from NY I also worked in the Building Trades.in NYC. I was in the Concrete workers Union pouring high rise concrete for the largest. Concrete company called Dic-Concrete on the eastern seaboard. We were talking though the comment section, Michael had another game we’re if paid money to him, you were given direct access to his business knowledge. I am a born again Christian, some of the biggest crooks are TV pastors and just a preacher in charge of a church, which is a considerable large amounts of money. Only God knows our hearts my friend. Love your channel, God bless my friend. Alex
Michael is also a born-again Christian, the problem with a lot of evangelicals is that they cannot be dissuaded from anything, even racist viewpoints
To be fair the people that were killed were also in the mob. The mob didnt go out and kill innocent civilians. At least not the ones who were sane. And when someone did die, it was usually because that person broke the oath. And by breaking that, they knew the consequences
Wtf are you taking about the killed civilians all the time! All the straight arrow business owners and union officials who didn’t wanna deal with the mob got killed for one reason or another theirs a famous case where gas pipe killed two brothers because they didn’t wanna pay shakedown money and told the fbi. They are not men of honor or Robin Hood type people yoy watch too many movies.
It's so stupid to think that in a show or a movie all characters have to be perfect and have morals. This guy sounds like a Karen complaining about the language and violent stuff.
I used to be subbed to him and he has some interesting takes on mafia related movies and things but overall I got irritated over time by him and when he did do a few Soprano reviews they were sloppy, like it came off as if he barely watched the show and for sure wasn’t paying attention to details.
Clarity on Franzese’s viewing of The Sopranos: Yes, he stated something like he’d only seen the first season. More recently, he said he had finished watching all the seasons. Also, I believe he was stating the status of The Sopranos as a great series because it is frequently stated to be so from an objective perspective: apparently the first of its kind as a series, realistic dialogue (much of which, according to David Chase, was taken from federal wiretaps when Giuliani went after them), whole new generation watching, adding to fan base which is STILL growing, etc. The statement isn’t necessarily Franzese offering his opinion.
I appreciate your take on Franzese’s review - and now I might actually watch The Many Saints of Newark tonight! Thank you for doing what you do on this channel :-)
Franzese's review was indeed bizarre. Thanks for this!
The absolute irony of complaining about """woke""" and his whole review is complaining about being offended by negative stereotypes, not of Italian Americans in general, but specifically stereotypes of friggin mobsters. Like he's genuinely offended that the movie depicted mobsters as being abusive and racist?? You can't make this up 🤣🤣
It's all a part of his marketing plan..making this film out to be like a real family. He's also very hypocritical at times. Excellent critique, great points made.
I'm so glad you made this video, I watched Franzese's review and I was just as baffled by everything he said about it as you were, this video sums up exactly how I felt about it. Thanks!
Franzese always reminds me of the line Tony told the rat while murdering in College. Something to the effect of that for wise guys, the hustle never ends.
That’s why he’s a pastor 😂 he’s not done scamming innocent people. He’s so Christian but the first thing he says is chase is lucky I’m not a mob guy anymore. Like a movie has you ready to harm a man because you didn’t like it?
I'm glad you made this video. When I saw Franzese's Many Saints review I left a comment, basically saying everything you said in your video knowing Franzese, or probably anyone would ever read it. Hopefully he sees your video and realizes what a contradictory ass he made of himself
I love Michael Franzese, I think he has absolutely amazing videos with movie reviews and mafia stories. This review just wasn’t it, his past life bias got in the way of the review
He sounds like a SJM: Social Justice Mobster 🤣🤣
Franzese sounds like Tony complaining to Melfi.
I remember when this video came out few months ago and I was a fan of his channel until this. He seemed to be a genuine guy (as much as a "reformed" mobster can). But this was just plain as day pandering bulls/it meant to gain clicks from people unfamiliar with the channel. Glad you're calling him out.
he's a white evangelical who doesn't like anything that doesn't sing praises of his Lord and his people. What do you expect.
I to, was flabbergasted by his hypocrisy on this review. But, you know who he sounds like? The former leader of his family Joe Colombo. He was an activist against anti-Italian discrimination all while doing mob business.
As someone who is subscribe to Michael‘s RUclips channel and I follow him on social media, I really like Michael a lot and I do think he is a good guy but you hit the nail on the head in this video. I’m not saying because I don’t agree with Michael on a movie that I hate him now and I’m going to be one of these trolls online just harass him endlessly, it’s nothing like that but I had the exact same feelings you did when I watched his review. And like you I am perfectly OK if Michael didn’t like the movie, I enjoyed the movie but I would never say it’s in the top 10 best gangster films of all time or even that it was as good as the Sopranos series even. I admit that the movie did have some problems, I felt like they were trying to slam three stories into a two hour movie and I really do think it would’ve benefited from being a 10 episode series on HBO or something like that.
But yeah just like you my mouth was literally hanging open and listening to Michael‘s review and not only that he contradicted himself probably three times in his review. One minute he sitting there saying that he and his father had black friends and then the next minute he’s admitting that there were a lot of people in the mafia that were prejudiced in the 60s and 70s. And no where in the movie did they blame the race riots on the Italians I don’t know where Michael is getting that from. And to sit here and start shaming mafia guys in a movie because they’re doing bad things but then just months earlier you’re praising other movies that do the exact same thing that your damning this one for was just astonishing. I really think the whole place this was coming from with Michael was really just his political ties. Michael doesn’t hide the fact that he is a Republican and I have no issue with that at all he can be whatever party he wants to be a part of I don’t care but as an American I will tell you this the Americans that have made politics a big part of their life have completely lost the ability to call anything fair or down the middle. They wait to see where their side stands on an issue and then they use no free will or no free thought and they just blindly back that charge and will be willing to die on that political argument. The whole reason conservative sopranos fans hated this movie was because of the riots. They acted like the only reason the riots were in the movie was to show support for BLM.
1. That argument might have a leg to stand on if in the sopranos universe they never mentioned the riots like the riots in the Sopranos universe just didn’t happen and it was never brought up and never talked about in the series. It was brought up multiple times in the series and we even saw flashbacks to that time in the series. And this series was made way before the BLM movement over a decade before that movement.
2. It’s not like the movie at any point suggested that Harold and the black gangsters were the good guys just trying to fight off their Italian mafia racist opponents. Nope. Harold was working for Dickie and then he wanted to go into business for himself. At no point in this movie was Harold “The Good Guy” . Harold was just like everyone else in the movie. And I hate to say this because I do respect Michael a lot but dude get over it. It’s a movie about criminals just like Goodfellas and just like the godfather and guess what criminals a lot of them aren’t good people. The movie in no way portrayed one side is good and one side is bad it was just two different criminal factions and really it wasn’t even a war between two factions. It was a fight between two men. Hell we never even once saw Johnny boy or Junior or anyone else even give two shits after Harold and those guys jump them with guns. Apparently they were just worried about killing one of their own. They wanted to kill Dickie well junior date anyway. It’s not even like the mafia guys were after revenge after that.
I just really think that if you go back and look at the week that he did the review and then go back and look at the other videos he was in on the valuentertainment channel around the same time he was really beating the political pulpit and so he was in a political mindset and when Americans get in a political mindset they cannot usually be fair or honest or rational. And both parties are like that I’m not saying that the left isn’t, there are plenty of close minded people on the left too. But it’s really sad because Michael normally is someone who does think things out. Even when he is having a political conversation he doesn’t just normally blindly just support whatever most people on the right think . For example he is one of the few conservatives that will come out and openly say that there is no proof that there was election fraud. Most conservatives today are hell-bent on the only reason Donald Trump lost was because there was election fraud but Michael isn’t one of those people. That’s really why I was just shocked to watch his review. This isn’t the smart Michael that think things out this was a different Michael than I had ever seen before. Anyway thanks for making this video. I don’t know how to make RUclips videos but after watching Michael’s review I almost wanted to do the same kind of video you just did because someone needs to pointed out because there are a lot of people that don’t think you can debate Michael because he was a former mob guy. If we’re talking about the real life going on in the mafia day today then no none of us are qualified to debate him. But in the world of movies and television I think it’s more than ok.
I guess my biggest problem with the people that say that the riots or what made this movie bad smart thing to say because then you’re giving a pass to all of the other issues this movie had and you’re saying if that one thing was left out that this movie would be a perfect movie and it wouldn’t. So it’s not about defending whether or not the movie is good or not it’s more about just calling someone out because they’re contradicting themselves a lot and being very hypocritical when it comes to other mob movies and television shows.
I think Michael doesn't know that David Chase is Italian.
LOL.
It’s Charcoal Briquettes or moulinyans
Well, the movie sucked anyway. The marketing made it seem like it was about Tony himself, but instead it was about the things that happened around him. It wasn't even from his point of view. It was from the point of view of his uncle.
Was going to bring up A Bronx Tale and Chazz Palminteri being on his channel. I should have known you wouldn't have missed that. Keep up the good work!
Also, why was he so offended by the patricide in this movie when he has literally claimed multiple times that he knew two guys in the mob who had to kill their own father because he broke the rules?
Bruh, that story is a lot different from what happened in the movie. Dickie killed his father out of anger and those two brothers killing their father was a ordered hit.
Didn't his own father try to kill him? Granted, that was business, not a crime of passion, I suppose.
Regardless, if mobsters have killed their own relative many times in the past over business, then someone killing their own father due to rage at him abusing his wife isn't that far fetched. If I remember correctly Dickie also said that his dad used to beat his mom as well and beat him as a kid, so it makes sense.
@@jurajkadasi324 it's not unusual for relatives to kill each other in the mob. Sammy Gravano killed his own brother in law, for instance. Dickie and his father were both criminals with access to weapons, it was bound to happen. Code or no code, they are people at the end of the day.
It's meta-knowledge that Dickie and his brother killed their dad. As far as the rest of Jersey knows, someone else killed him. It's meta-knowledge that Tony kills Christopher, but to everyone else it was an accident.
👍👍 we need more honest commentary like this, well done.
"The things in this movie didn't happen in real life -0 bags of popcorn."
-Michael Franzese
Franzese was really triggered by this film. I guess he was just having a bad day. Usually, he's pretty level-headed.
Still can't believe he busted out "my dad and I had black friends" *rolls eyes*
Some of my Best Friends...
The story of Franzese and his father walking into Buddah Records and putting a gun to the owners face to steal his money did more to make them look bad. I liked Yummy Yummy.