Why you should buy BMW F87 M2 now! | 4K
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- Опубликовано: 23 май 2024
- The are the reasons I think this is the best time to buy F87 M2. Do you agree with me?
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Suspension: Bilstein B16 from ML Performance
Brake pads: EBC BlueStuff
Brake fluid: Motul RBF600
Brake lines: Goodridge
AutoID - black grills, M-mirrors, black badge and carbon CS style spoiler.
Carbon M-style exhaust tips
Automotive Passion - Carbon Arch Guards
Carbon Diffuser
M Performance gear shifter, M Performance race display steering wheel and handbrake.
Powerflex shifter busing
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Coming from a tuned M140i which I owned for 4 years, I bought an OG M2 late last year.
It's a bit slower in a straight line, it's noisy, the ride is crashy over bumps, the DCT is jerky at low speeds, but .... on an open twisty undulating country road, wow, it really comes alive and it all makes sense.
I love it.
I can really relate to your comment. The car isn’t perfect but once you drive it in anger it all makes sense.
I echo your comments guys, not the best daily by any stretch but wow…. Get the correct conditions combined with the howling N55 and it’s perfection
The N55 in the OG M2 is far superior to the standard n55 from the m135i plus it shares the same underpinnings in the chassis as the f series m3, make no mistake this car is great
Those rzn’s are understandable and actually makes u love it more cuz most ppl expect this m2 to feel like a C43 chasis and have no type of noise or squeaks or aggressive pothole bumps
upgrade the transmission firmware to the m2comp one, look on bimmerpostforums. It also changes the handling a bit for the better. 1st to 2nd jerkiness gets fixed with this mod (if you got the og, you need to upgrade the firmware to LCI, the you can do comp the handling/transmission. Costed me 100 bucks, back then my mechanic had no idea about it and now he charges 10x of that. Still, worth it.
Don't forget a charge pipe even if you have it stock, OEM CP are plastic sht and break. The car doesn't needs to be tuned at all, is perfect, nonetheless after 8 years of having it, mine has a downpipe/intercooler/chargepipe and stage 2 (not stage 2+) with 420/whp and 550nm of torque. Thinking about an air intake for the sound/better airflow and new exhaust for sound + 5hp haha. I doubt I'll get a bigger turbo and more tuning -maybe just an ohlins suspension system, since you can put it on street/track mode in the shop; street mode is just perfect, a buddy has it and it's night and day between the stock suspension for daily driving.
The car is a beast, got it brand new, won't sell it ever and the other day I parked along a g87 M2, the dude was clearly uncomfortable, even when I was telling him his engine is kicks ass, he confessed not liking the design at all and would prefer the f87 looks (maybe a little refreshed) with an s58, rather than the monstrosity BMW created to cater to its biggest market in the East of the world.... OG M2s are gonna be a classic, idk if their prices go way up, I'm keeping mine and when upgrading to the better german brand -there's only one, VW may own the business, but we know they are the benchmark in the industry-, this will still be on the garage.
I've owned my Long Beach Blue OG for nearly 5 years now, absolutely love the car and its definitely a keeper. M performance carbon exterior, M per Exhaust System, just had the steering wheel retrimmed in alcantara by Royal steering wheels with m perf carbon steering wheel trim also purchased. My brother in law just purchased an LBB M2 comp. Next time your up in Scotland give us a shout on the Fb owners page. Great channel keep up the good work.
Thanks. I’m glad you’re enjoying it. Regards 👋
A modern classic in the making and great value for money. Huge Smiles Per Gallon!😁
100% agree
What a beauty... I hope to be able to afford one in 1 to 2 years!
Worth the wait!
Just bought a 2018 LCi with 22k miles and extended bmw warranty from new. Can’t wait to pick it up.
Have a cracking time in it mate!
Congrats, great car 👍
Research the m2comp handling/transmission firmware upgrade, worth it for jerkiness on 1st to 2nd shifts, better handling feedback and better shifts on sport+. Also, get a chargepipe, N55 - no matter if they are N55b - have a plastic chargepipe that holds well 300hp, not 370hp and the amount of boost the M2 has. They are cheap, get a stainless steel one.
@@beatsandstuff Thanks for that, I was planning on keeping it under BMW warranty though so that kind of ruins my options of modifications/upgrades, I did see the firmware upgrades though and they looked good. Is the charge pipe a DIY fix? Access looks tricky?
@@jamessonfield I think you need to know a little bit about carwork to put on the chargepipe. I sent mine to the shop when the oem cp blew out of nowhere at 14,000kms (I got unlucky, it usually lasts 30,000kms). I don't have the space/tools to do it myself living in a metropolis, so I either take it to a racing shop or go to one of my buddies who is a bmw wizard, but lacks a few tools for bigger repairs/tunes.
I just got my 2018 manual in LBB for $38,000 with 47k miles. It was super hard to find a one owner, LBB, clean title, manual in US. Happy I found it, future classic for sure! The sound is addicting
I’m glad you enjoying it. It looks like they hold their prices much better in US. Regards 👋
Have an OG LCI and I absolutely love it. The combo of a VRSF sports cat and Mperf exhaust is the most addicting sound, and with the valves open is absolutely insane. I adore my car to bits. Lots of other extras, and IMO the best colour mineral grey, because everyone has a long beach blue one haha.
Don’t you get drone between 2500-3000rpm? I had mpe and sold it as with manual it was droning at 70mph
@@MDrives I do a bit yes, although it isn't a problem with the valves shut. I only tend to have them open if I'm driving hard on some good roads. With the valves open and cruising it's definitely a pain. Look forward to more content, always enjoyed your videos before and during my ownership of mine. I got the carbon mudguards you have after watching that video.
I think this applies to your country only, in the rest of Europe good examples are still expensive, ~40/50K, especially manual ones, honestly I’d rather spend more to get an “exotic” with a little bit of years on the shoulders, but that’s probably my case and opinion. I still agree with you tho, for 25K to low ~30K I would absolutely buy one of this.
That actually might be the case. You’re right. If the car would be £45k that would take it close to some better caymans and lotuses.
A shame you didn't go into what problems you had. I have had an OG 2017 pre-LCI with 85,000 miles on it for a year now and I have not enjoyed it one bit.. YET.
The water pump shat itself. Then I had to overhaul the entire cooling system including all pulleys, hoses, bolts, clamps and ancillaries. The front and rear brake and hub assemblies are rusted out and also need a complete overhaul top to bottom. Damage a driveshaft? That's 500 GBP. Granted, in Japan, I paid 12500 GBP for it drive-away, but have since spent 5000 GBP on parts - most of them I'm doing myself because Japanese workshops r@pe customers on anything Euro.
Market prices for this car in Japan - at this mileage - are about 14,000 ~ 15,000 GBP but you're going to have to change a LOT of things to get it back up to fresh - and even then, the car has STILL done 80,000 miles.
Don't think I'll ever do this again and it is the ONLY car - out of hundreds - that has ever given me this many fk'n headaches.
In fact I did a video on the issues I had just a few months ago. Check it out. I definitely never heard of as many issues as you’re talking about but tbh, I don’t think there that many M2 with high milage.
@@MDrives No there aren't but there will be and like me, people are going to learn the hard way that, like cats, when they are young kittens, they're so much fun to play with but as they get older, they will give you a lot of problems. There's a reason most people dump them after they hit past their dealer guarantee/warrantee periods.
I'll have a look at your other video. Cheers.
Lovely video, is the exhaust standard?
The exhaust is, but I have 200 cel sport cat.
Just bought one!
Well, have fun!
@@MDrives dziękuję!
Me too
@@lucguenette7534 great!
Also people don’t realise how rare the manual M2 is in the uk, 664 only in OG, 428 in comp, and 37 CS. Compare that to 1Ms…and they very similar numbers.
Maybe it will help the values in the future.
Greetings from Oulu, Finland. Not sure about M2 prices here - I will look when I get home to Yorkshire.
Hi. How’s your trip?
@@MDrives Germany was blessedly quiet. Poland tolls were awkward as I don’t have a passenger. Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Finland have all been baking hot. Interesting to see new countries but the roads are rather dull. 2000 miles covered this week.
Errrrm just to say I sold my OG LBB Manaual M2 with MPE system HK, Full BMWSH, Carbon exterior pack, and interior carbon parts as well inside 85k on the clock but did have 7 owners But it went for £19k in the end. Sooo yeah they are definitely going for cheaper than 22k right now.
7 owners 💀 What happened?
@@dafaqking my thoughts was a lot of pcp owners looking at the history someone had it for good three years so up to 2019 and then went back into BMW circulation and then I owned it for 15 months/15k miles. So yeah but tbf the service history was good and it was all documented at main dealers.
@@Nike427 Ah, got it. Glad you had some fun with the M2!
@@dafaqking yeah it was great fun and my third M car.
Currently have. 2016 M3 comp in satin grey.
But I had M4 before M2 and E92 M3 before that. All different beasts. 😌😌
It’s not uncommon with the these cars. Mine had 4 owners in the first two years.
Dude, a 70k mile example in the US sells for about 35k-40k… with rent being over 2k a month, I can afford it but I’d be scraping by 🙄🙄
I’m glad they aren’t that expensive here. Regards 👋
35-40k British pounds ?
Really wanting to pickup an m2, but wastegate rattle, and all the supposed interior creaks is kinda putting me off, is it still worth it ?
Not all of them have the rattle and even so, I don’t really notice it any more. Creaks, you can always deal with them. You would love the car if you are really looking for a raw driving experience!
@@MDrives Yeah, currently bored of my car just not engaging to drive,its really between m2 or porsche cayman 981, both in manual. Do you think the sports cat on m2 makes the rattle worse/more audible ?
@@IdLoveAGT4RS no. It has nothing to do with it. Honestly it’s not loud. I’m one of those guys who’s sensitive to all drones, and background noises. I bet majority of people would ever know that the car has the rattle.
I'm not a fan of LBB, it is a nice colour but it's the sort of colour you an only see so often before getting tired of it. I live in an area that has many M2s and the LBB hype dies down quickly. I ordered my Comp new (with it's vast list of about 4 options) myself and have owned it almost exactly 5 years now (20th May 2019) and 99k Km. I ordered it Hockenheim silver with the M437 wheels that are now used for winter tyres and I have added a set of 763M that I had painted Bronze for the summer. (I don't like the 788M bicycle wheels)
I have thought about selling and getting an Emira or a Cayman GTS4.0 quite a few times but I can't bare the idea of selling the M2, I've got 3 cars at the moment, but the M2 is just my baby.
I wanted LBB but in a comp I would probably go with SO. They are great value for money, that’s why it’s so difficult to sell them. Regards 👋
It's is a stunner for sure but if i was going to tune a engine I would prefer a closed deck than open deck the car is a Frankenstein made from parts f80 f82 .the car is a m car and it's got n55b30 variant I mean the Mlite have got a better engine than that .if I was going to buy a m. car and open the hood and I found the n55 in there I would feel cheated I mean at least BMW could I put an S engine like f80 f82 or m2cs.
I get your point but this really isn’t something which concerns me personally. I think it sounds great and it works but it is a bit old tech now.
The N55 in this car is closed deck, with forged internals and some upgrades carried over from the S55.
@@defyyourlogic487 the engine in the m2 which is a n55b30to is a semi closed deck the point is that BMW didn't put a s engine in a M car.
You forgot to mention how easy it is to get it sideways :)
Yes, that definitely a party trick of this car. I love it.
How does this compare to m140?
Have a look at the comparison I made BMW M140i vs M2 - how BMW's top hot hatch compares to M equivalent. Long and detailed road test. 4K
ruclips.net/video/BSrGppqSFw0/видео.html
Hmm and the road tax (VED) at £190 (?) is less than the £210 on a Micra!
Depends on the year. If you buy a 2016 one, sadly it's more because of the weird rule changes on tax in April 17. If you get an LCI one its £190 now which is great :) Crazy that its less than a micra haha
Unfortunately mine was registered before 1 April so it’s higher
@@MDrives
Same
Ours is a late 2016 so tax is just over £300
Still not too bad though especially when compared to R32’s etc at £720 🤢🤯
Ps
Get yourself some comp seats…… by far thenicest upgrade we made to our OG and bagged a bargain pair too at just over £1k 👍
@@simonehayes4911one day I will. Thanks
@@simonehayes4911 damn 1k for the pair what a steal! I've been trying to find some for ages, absolutely the one thing I want to change about my one
M2 competition looks so much better
nicer front but uglier wheels
Nah you can take that attached kidney nonsense. Looks like a pig.
Are you kidding? The Alloys fitted to the M2 Comp are the worst design ever fitted to an M car. The standard M2 alloys were perfect from the outset. The CS gold alloys look 👌
The front I will give you, but nowhere else changed really for the better. The damn udder on the S55 exhaust is horrible, as well as the sound in general from an S55. I literally bought my one because I preferred the sound of the N55. I would steal a pair of comp seats though haha
The M2 comp looks awful from the back because you can see the massive rear exhaust silencer hanging out like a poo that won't come out. 🤮🤮🤮
No way would I buy an F87 now that the G87 is out. The F87 looks very dated now. The G87 looks incredibly aggressive and so much better than the old M2.
I have to totally disagree. I think new m2 looks very odd unless you modify them. But, the looks are very personal and the interior feels two decades apart.
@@MDrives Modified or not, the G87 looks super aggressive. The F87 just looks old now. It didn't age well at all, especially the rear end. Even without the S58, I'd still take the G87 on the looks alone.
@@Japplesnap I think majority of people will disagree with you. I think they aged very well and will become classics in the future.
@@Japplesnap
Said nobody ever 🤣🤡
@@simonehayes4911 Said me. And everyone else who purchased a G87. I sold my F87 for a G87, just like a whole bunch of others. No regrets. The G87 is a superior car in every way.