I enjoyed the video very much and I will be happy to check out Nashville Recording Supply. I am glad that a solid source for good modern cassettes is available. Thank you for the wonderful work that you do .
I tried a RTM C90 recently. It sounds great. The noise was a bit higher then a TDK D but otherwise good tape. No dropouts and very reliable. I think it's this tape that is used in many pre records like the ones you review a while ago. The tape looks exactly the same.
I just got a 10 pack of RTM C60s with the newest tape stock. Very impressed with the performance and my faith in new tape has been renewed. I had pretty much lost any hope of finding good new 21st century tape. Up until now I've been scooping up NOS cassettes, but now I don't think I have too. These cassettes perform very similarly to the BASF Ferro Extra on my JVC decks (have 3 KD-V6s because they're just such a reliable, simple deck and they sound fantastic to my ears). Virtually no discernable loss in audio quality and while there's no gain in levels when recording to tape, there's 0dB in loss. The levels don't change or need much, if any, calibrating to match the source. For a Type I cassette, I'm impressed. If RTM makes a Type II cobalt comparable to the SA, I'd love to try them. Also tested on the Sony TC-K555s, Denon DR-F1, Onkyo TA-2570 & A&D (Akai) GX-9 and all tests were done using Dolby as well. C-type predominately for compatibility reasons. S-type is nice, but C-type decodes better on a B-only deck than S-type does.
I believe the RTM cassettes are the best new tapes on the market. I had tried both the type 1 and type 2 cassettes from ATR and wasn't impressed, but the RTM performs very well.
I was impressed with the sound of the RTM RtoR tape. I'm currently using some stock of Quantegy GP-9 on Scully 280-B's with a 3dB overbias. When I need new (soon) I'll go for the RTM 911 as it's bias is more compatible with the GP-9 and I can switch back and forth. The cassettes sounded great too so I'll probably use them. And I have Nashville Recording Supply already bookmarked!
First of all, you are one of the few channels that i enjoy watching thus im one of your subscribers, second of all; this might sound silly but im always gathering NOS tapes in case of "hard times". If i were to win anything i'd surely have a bit more safely stored tapes to use in case of an apocalypse or so :P at some point, only the people that actually spent their time doing this silly stuff will be able to use their old lovely gear which i surely want to do
@@VintageElectronicsChannelHey there. I seem to remember the introduction of the BIC tape deck and if I recall correctly it needed some work to restore it to working condition. If I am wrong (wouldn't surprise me because my forgetter works much better). Anyway I noticed the peak meter on the left side sticking a bit and didn't know if you tried to correct it. If you would like to try freeing it up it shouldn't be difficult at all. A large majority of those meters have a screw that holds the needles pivot points. Turning that screw a tiny fraction will likely free up the sweep swing. It's worth a look anyway. Cheers.
I did not know RTM is french. Thanks a lot for the video, I think I will try it also, I have a Akai 4 000 DS, and I think I can try a fully analog recording session, with old Korg Poly 800 and so on... Nice chanel, I subscribe from France !
You have to calibrate the record side of your TEAC A-3300SX to use the SM900 tape. The difference between tape and source made that clear. Tape and source should be the same.
Someone beat me to it :) Agreed. Also a deck that can do 30IPS would also really take it to the next level, though I dont think you'll find any prosumer decks that can do 30 IPS, usually its the more expensive pro gear like studer that can do it. 15 IPS is pretty decent though, 30IPS will give a higher resolution though which should result in better response at the higher frequencies.
@@alex1520 Even at 7.5 IPS the TEAC should and can perform better than presented in this video. Ok it is not a STUDER I know that. I've done service on a TEAC A-3300SX, a standard 4 track stereo, and after I calibrated it it perform very well on LPR90 tape ( 35um version of the SM900 ).
@@paullongtailpair3812I don't have any of these decks. I do have a question about what the other person posted about 15 IPS vs. 30 IPS. I don't recall if I read or watched a video about it, but as I remember at 30 IPS the bass would begin to fall off (less intense) where as the higher frequencies would truly sparkle, I just didn't know if that were true. Thank you in advance if you choose to answer/respond 😃😀.
@@darinb.3273 Indeed concerning specifications given by STUDER the low-end at 30 IPS is limited somewhat. I'm not certain but the lower end might be cut off deliberately because of an effect that is called in Dutch: kopslinger ( sorry I don't know a proper English word for it and I can't find a proper translation for it as well ) what is a, luckily suppressed, comb-filter effect produced by the length of the head-mirror and the wavelength on the tape. The higher the tape-speed the higher this effect. This effect result in a sine-wave like frequency-response ( not signal ) that can go about + and - 1dB ( 2dB peak to peak ) at 15 IPS at 20 Hz and fade away in the higher frequency's and is virtually vanished at mid-range frequencies. At 30 IPS this effect might be over 2 dB p-p up to 4 dB p-p at 20Hz and therefore i presume that a high-pass filter at 40 Hz is inserted in de record-amp signal path. The use of 30 IPS is most likely a thing of the past where tape formulation wasn't good enough for professional use at 15 IPS or lower. The fact that the lower frequency range was limited to 40Hz was at that time not a great concern because vinyl records are generally never cut/mastered below 40 Hz because of mechanical limitations and the 3180us ( 50 Hz ) point in the RIAA EQ curve. Later tape formulation like the SM900 made it possible to get proper performance for professional use without the 40 Hz limitation. That combined with the development of what is called "butterfly heads" and the change from NAB EQ to CCIR EQ even down to 16 Hz become possible. The aforementioned kopslinger is suppressed by the butterfly-heads because the trapezium like head-mirror hereby the head-mirror length varies over the track-width what give more wrinkles in the lower frequency-range but much less amplitude-deviation. In my experience using my own STUDER A-807 with butterfly-heads at 15 IPS i get excellent results where this difference between tape and source is inaudible.
I’d like to get my hands on some new open-reel tape, as I believe it to be the most appropriate format for the full set of the Conet Project recordings.
hi it's easy to get the pancakes for the c90 1/8 cassette bodies still i have a otari DP2700 so i can fill all my cassettes i like them clean with out makes all over them and all the color bodies now as well
Always loved the open reel format . I would only want an auto -reverse deck though ( there was an AKAI model back in the day ) I hate the thought of re-spooling at the end of one side . They just look so cool spinning away and the sound is even better than vinyl I'd say
If I win... I'm going to donate it to the SICTC(90.7WPSR) I'm sure the kids can use these in their learning to become Radio DJs, Television worker's and the things that are taught there. Thanks for the video's and congrats on 5k!
ATR Magnetics tape is another current company making new tape and their master tape is the best tape I've ever used. That's comparing it to Pyral (now called RTM), Maxell UD35-90 and 35-90b, and Quantegy 456. They also make cassette tape now but I haven't tried it.
@@VintageElectronicsChannel That's too bad. I actually bought one of the gold series cassettes with the mini reels, strictly for how cool they look but I haven't opened it yet.
I just looked on the Give away form & such... There's nothing saying about how many times you can enter or if can enter daily, weekly, obviously not monthly. I assume it's one entry only. But I don't want a Karen to screw up your 5k Bonus for everyone... Keep up the great work!
hi you have one cassette on high speed my tascam 238 is high speed up to 3 3/4 - 7 1/2 note to all it's better to buy from tapes line they do have the same kind of tapes for better money
sorry to say i get all my tapes from tape line i know alot of places are over priced sorry i just don't like the model make all over the cassette body work there's no need to have it all over the tapes
I have a Great Stock of "NOS" High Bias to Full Type 4 metal Tape Cassettes still Sealed due to the Horrible quality of New Cassettes, for example I have Purchased pre-recorded New Tapes and on my Pioneer CT-A9X Cassette Deck they are Noisy and very weak signal. I wish I would have run across this video way Sooner! I also have a Great Selection of 80s and 90s pre-recorded tapes with Dolby B and C that absolutely sound awesome, even had Friends over listening to Tapes and they would ask what CD we were listening too!! Anyway just wanted to say Thanks for thos Video, now I know I can buy good quality Cassettes New! I would like to see how their type 2 compares with my Sealed type 4 metal Tapes? Keep up the Great Channel!
There's no comparison to the old stock. I'm glad there are companies still making new stock, it keeps tape alive, I just wish they compared to the old stuff. Thanks for watching!
I enjoyed the video very much and I will be happy to check out Nashville Recording Supply. I am glad that a solid source for good modern cassettes is available. Thank you for the wonderful work that you do .
amazed at how much the open reel tape sound opens up the sound! the muted guitar sound had so much more life on the tape on reel. great video
I tried a RTM C90 recently. It sounds great. The noise was a bit higher then a TDK D but otherwise good tape. No dropouts and very reliable.
I think it's this tape that is used in many pre records like the ones you review a while ago. The tape looks exactly the same.
Thanks a lot for your testing!! Well, I’m back to R2R and SM 900 is my reference. As known K7 cannot compete. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for watching and enjoy!
I just got a 10 pack of RTM C60s with the newest tape stock. Very impressed with the performance and my faith in new tape has been renewed. I had pretty much lost any hope of finding good new 21st century tape. Up until now I've been scooping up NOS cassettes, but now I don't think I have too.
These cassettes perform very similarly to the BASF Ferro Extra on my JVC decks (have 3 KD-V6s because they're just such a reliable, simple deck and they sound fantastic to my ears). Virtually no discernable loss in audio quality and while there's no gain in levels when recording to tape, there's 0dB in loss. The levels don't change or need much, if any, calibrating to match the source. For a Type I cassette, I'm impressed. If RTM makes a Type II cobalt comparable to the SA, I'd love to try them. Also tested on the Sony TC-K555s, Denon DR-F1, Onkyo TA-2570 & A&D (Akai) GX-9 and all tests were done using Dolby as well. C-type predominately for compatibility reasons. S-type is nice, but C-type decodes better on a B-only deck than S-type does.
I believe the RTM cassettes are the best new tapes on the market. I had tried both the type 1 and type 2 cassettes from ATR and wasn't impressed, but the RTM performs very well.
I was impressed with the sound of the RTM RtoR tape. I'm currently using some stock of Quantegy GP-9 on Scully 280-B's with a 3dB overbias. When I need new (soon) I'll go for the
RTM 911 as it's bias is more compatible with the GP-9 and I can switch back and forth. The cassettes sounded great too so I'll probably use them. And I have Nashville Recording Supply already bookmarked!
WOW you have an amazing setup!
Thanks!
First of all, you are one of the few channels that i enjoy watching thus im one of your subscribers, second of all; this might sound silly but im always gathering NOS tapes in case of "hard times". If i were to win anything i'd surely have a bit more safely stored tapes to use in case of an apocalypse or so :P at some point, only the people that actually spent their time doing this silly stuff will be able to use their old lovely gear which i surely want to do
Thanks for watching! I have a hoard of old tapes as well... never know when you'll need them!
@@VintageElectronicsChannelHey there. I seem to remember the introduction of the BIC tape deck and if I recall correctly it needed some work to restore it to working condition. If I am wrong (wouldn't surprise me because my forgetter works much better). Anyway I noticed the peak meter on the left side sticking a bit and didn't know if you tried to correct it. If you would like to try freeing it up it shouldn't be difficult at all. A large majority of those meters have a screw that holds the needles pivot points. Turning that screw a tiny fraction will likely free up the sweep swing. It's worth a look anyway. Cheers.
The Teac R2R sounded great coming off the tape also the BIC sounded nice..
The 1/4 tape you can plainly hear the HH in the right channel lose its 'crispness'. Nice equipment, great video!
I did not know RTM is french. Thanks a lot for the video, I think I will try it also, I have a Akai 4 000 DS, and I think I can try a fully analog recording session, with old Korg Poly 800 and so on... Nice chanel, I subscribe from France !
Merci! Thanks for watching and subscribing!
Another awesome video!
Thanks!
You have to calibrate the record side of your TEAC A-3300SX to use the SM900 tape. The difference between tape and source made that clear. Tape and source should be the same.
Someone beat me to it :) Agreed. Also a deck that can do 30IPS would also really take it to the next level, though I dont think you'll find any prosumer decks that can do 30 IPS, usually its the more expensive pro gear like studer that can do it. 15 IPS is pretty decent though, 30IPS will give a higher resolution though which should result in better response at the higher frequencies.
@@alex1520 Even at 7.5 IPS the TEAC should and can perform better than presented in this video. Ok it is not a STUDER I know that. I've done service on a TEAC A-3300SX, a standard 4 track stereo, and after I calibrated it it perform very well on LPR90 tape ( 35um version of the SM900 ).
Well-stated.
Calibrate then test.
@@paullongtailpair3812I don't have any of these decks. I do have a question about what the other person posted about 15 IPS vs. 30 IPS. I don't recall if I read or watched a video about it, but as I remember at 30 IPS the bass would begin to fall off (less intense) where as the higher frequencies would truly sparkle, I just didn't know if that were true. Thank you in advance if you choose to answer/respond 😃😀.
@@darinb.3273 Indeed concerning specifications given by STUDER the low-end at 30 IPS is limited somewhat. I'm not certain but the lower end might be cut off deliberately because of an effect that is called in Dutch: kopslinger ( sorry I don't know a proper English word for it and I can't find a proper translation for it as well ) what is a, luckily suppressed, comb-filter effect produced by the length of the head-mirror and the wavelength on the tape. The higher the tape-speed the higher this effect. This effect result in a sine-wave like frequency-response ( not signal ) that can go about + and - 1dB ( 2dB peak to peak ) at 15 IPS at 20 Hz and fade away in the higher frequency's and is virtually vanished at mid-range frequencies. At 30 IPS this effect might be over 2 dB p-p up to 4 dB p-p at 20Hz and therefore i presume that a high-pass filter at 40 Hz is inserted in de record-amp signal path. The use of 30 IPS is most likely a thing of the past where tape formulation wasn't good enough for professional use at 15 IPS or lower. The fact that the lower frequency range was limited to 40Hz was at that time not a great concern because vinyl records are generally never cut/mastered below 40 Hz because of mechanical limitations and the 3180us ( 50 Hz ) point in the RIAA EQ curve. Later tape formulation like the SM900 made it possible to get proper performance for professional use without the 40 Hz limitation. That combined with the development of what is called "butterfly heads" and the change from NAB EQ to CCIR EQ even down to 16 Hz become possible. The aforementioned kopslinger is suppressed by the butterfly-heads because the trapezium like head-mirror hereby the head-mirror length varies over the track-width what give more wrinkles in the lower frequency-range but much less amplitude-deviation. In my experience using my own STUDER A-807 with butterfly-heads at 15 IPS i get excellent results where this difference between tape and source is inaudible.
There's some sort of wobble on the speed, when you switch to Tape on the first deck
I’d like to get my hands on some new open-reel tape, as I believe it to be the most appropriate format for the full set of the Conet Project recordings.
hi it's easy to get the pancakes for the c90 1/8 cassette bodies still i have a otari DP2700 so i can fill all my cassettes i like them clean with out makes all over them
and all the color bodies now as well
Always loved the open reel format . I would only want an auto -reverse deck though ( there was an AKAI model back in the day ) I hate the thought of re-spooling at the end of one side . They just look so cool spinning away and the sound is even better than vinyl I'd say
defintly some pure metal in these cassettes
If I win... I'm going to donate it to the SICTC(90.7WPSR)
I'm sure the kids can use these in their learning to become Radio DJs, Television worker's and the things that are taught there.
Thanks for the video's and congrats on 5k!
Thanks for watching and that's a great idea!
ATR Magnetics tape is another current company making new tape and their master tape is the best tape I've ever used. That's comparing it to Pyral (now called RTM), Maxell UD35-90 and 35-90b, and Quantegy 456. They also make cassette tape now but I haven't tried it.
I've used their master tape for years and really like it. Their cassettes aren't as great. At least in my experience.
@@VintageElectronicsChannel That's too bad. I actually bought one of the gold series cassettes with the mini reels, strictly for how cool they look but I haven't opened it yet.
Loys of flutter on the Sony 3 head deck.
I thought it was just me. For just having it serviced and calibrated, it seems like they missed a step.
Yes very audible. Surprised it seems the tester didn't hear it.
Is the prize exchangeble to paypal? It is much more expensive to ship to my country
Unfortunately, prizes are not exchangeable for cash or any other value.
I just looked on the Give away form & such...
There's nothing saying about how many times you can enter or if can enter daily, weekly, obviously not monthly.
I assume it's one entry only. But I don't want a Karen to screw up your 5k Bonus for everyone...
Keep up the great work!
Good catch. It would be one entry per person. I'll update that.
guess im oddball&audiophile and collector of mostly annything that ecsist, as long at its a fysical thing its cool
hi you have one cassette on high speed
my tascam 238 is high speed up to 3 3/4 - 7 1/2
note to all it's better to buy from tapes line they do have the same kind of tapes for better money
dont think te bias on rtr are correct. sounds tinny
sorry to say i get all my tapes from tape line i know alot of places are over priced
sorry i just don't like the model make all over the cassette body work
there's no need to have it all over the tapes
now youre talking....
I have a Great Stock of "NOS" High Bias to Full Type 4 metal Tape Cassettes still Sealed due to the Horrible quality of New Cassettes, for example I have Purchased pre-recorded New Tapes and on my Pioneer CT-A9X Cassette Deck they are Noisy and very weak signal. I wish I would have run across this video way Sooner! I also have a Great Selection of 80s and 90s pre-recorded tapes with Dolby B and C that absolutely sound awesome, even had Friends over listening to Tapes and they would ask what CD we were listening too!!
Anyway just wanted to say Thanks for thos Video, now I know I can buy good quality Cassettes New!
I would like to see how their type 2 compares with my Sealed type 4 metal Tapes?
Keep up the Great Channel!
There's no comparison to the old stock. I'm glad there are companies still making new stock, it keeps tape alive, I just wish they compared to the old stuff. Thanks for watching!