Ankle surgery patient testimonial 3 years post op.
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
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In 2009, our patient was seriously considering amputation as a solution to end the debilitating pain in her badly damaged ankle. She delayed this drastic surgery because of a move to San Francisco. In 2012, she came to see Dr. Stone who was able to preserve her ankle. Aggressive physical therapy played a big part in her recovery. " I did everything he said ....and that focus on gaining movement, breaking up scar tissue, preventing new scar tissue from forming ...and incredibly positive environment has been huge in my recovery."
Her story: 1997 she had shattered her ankle in a bad fall. Over the next 15 years she had several surgeries on her ankle, nothing had really helped. She was in severe pain on a daily basis, a 6-8 on a scale of 1-10. In early 2008 she had a subtalar fusion - a surgical procedure that fuses the heel bone (calcaneus) to the talus (bone that connects the foot to the ankle). While this had helped with some of the pain, it was still unbearable. This is when she began to research amputation. She delayed the decision because of a new job opportunity bringing her to San Francisco. In 2012, a friend recommended that she see Dr. Stone. Dr. Stone repaired the ankle and our physical therapists worked with her on rehabilitation. "I am here today visiting after 3 years and have since gone snowboarding and hiking. I walk without thinking about my ankle - I have 0-2 pain on a daily basis" "It's really a first-class clinic. I wouldn't go anywhere else at this point"
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In 1997 so 19 years ago now, I fell about 15 feet and shattered my right foot and ankle and broke my pelvis and sacrum and I had an emergency surgery right away the same day. And then over the next 15 years I had several surgeries, um, several just kind of general cleanups kind of to see what was going on and in the joint or in the joints. And then eventually had a fusion, um, up until that was in early 2008. So up until then I was in severe pain, six to eight on a daily basis, on a scale of one to 10. And, um, nothing had really helped at all. Nothing had helped at that point. And then I had a subtalar fusion in 2008 and that took away one of the types of pain I had. I would say I had two to three different types of pain at that time.
So that was huge and that it reduced that pain. So that helped us isolate that the main ankle joint still had a significant amount of damage and did some more cleanups, some injections, tried various things, physical therapy and nothing was really helping. By 2009, I talked to my surgeon about amputation and was fully um, prepared to amputate. He gave me the names of, and he's a great surgeon. He helped me a lot. Um, I had several opinions. I recommend anybody get several opinions and um, uh, he, I talked to him about amputation. He was very, um, very gracious about it. Had said he actually thought about it for me but didn't want to bring it up because it is such a huge decision and gave me the names of several of his patients who had made that decision. And one woman in particular with similar age as me, early thirties, and I talked to her several times and um, she did not regret her decision at all.
She was very, very happy that she had gone through with the amputation and was running again and able to have an active lifestyle, didn't have Phantom pain. Um, given my circumstance, I was a little obviously nervous about that route. Um, particularly because of Phantom pain cause my pain was so significant, but hers had been significant as well, but mine had been 15 years, which was a really long time and it makes me more likely to have potentially have Phantom pain. So, um, I still decided to proceed with that route in the sense of really researching it and met with, um, looked at different prosthetic limbs and was very, getting very serious about that as my plan because my quality of life was so poor and being so young, I wasn't interested in just kind of living on painkillers and that wasn't working for me at all.......
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That gives me a little more hope. Thank you
GOOD LUCK 3YRS AGO HAD FUSION [OCT 2019] AFTER SKI FALL IN NOV 2018, IT WAS MY 4TH OPERATION [PILON FRACTURE] STILL HAVE PAIN RARELY OVER #1 NOW. AFTER 3 4PM STILL HAVE TO SLOW MY DAY DOWN BE OFF MY FEET AND ICE, my day starts at 4am so 9 11 12 hours of almost pain free less than #1/2 point. NOW I FEEL I AM AT THE MANAGE STAGE BUT BACK SKIING NOT COMPETING [am training so not ruled out yet] BUT SKIING GOT 45 DAYS IN LAST YEAR 12 SO FAR THIS YEAR.I'VE WORK THE CRAP OUT OF IT IN P.T. BIKING WEIGHTS LOTS OF WALKING BUT I AM VERY CAREFULL. 4YEARS INTO IT AND STILL THINK I AM GAINING be advised i am 68. BEST TO YOU AND ALL DEALING WITH THIS HORRIFIC INJURY. Paul
Thanks, Paul, for the sharing your experience. It's incredibly tough to bounce back from severely traumatic injuries to the ankle. Glad to hear you were able to return to skiing.
Sorry to hear of your injury. Thanks for sharing.
I had surgery this day 4 weeks ago. 7 bones fractured. My mental health is not good as I am on non weight bearing stuck in bed as my wrists started getting sore using crutches and living alone up a stairs I cant get down. Thanks for sharing your story.
Sorry to hear about your injury and the mental toll the recovery is taking on you. Mental health challenges are extremely common when recovering from injury. Many patients like yourself get stuck in a downward spiral with bedrest and sedentary life contributing further to your recovery blues. A mental healthcare professional can certainly help but we also encourage our surgery patients to safely work out "around their injury" to get all the positive benefits of exercise.
You may learn about our approach by reading the article below from Dr. Stone on this topic. And the good news is that we can help you from from your home with VIRTUAL rehab sessions. Our StoneFit rehab team can design a program around your current restrictions without you ever having to face those stairs. You can make an appointment here www.stoneclinic.com/physical-therapy.
Article on Injury-Related Depression: www.stoneclinic.com/blog/acl-depression-syndrome-part-2
From the article: "To fight off ACL Depression Syndrome we counsel our patients to design a challenging daily exercise program for themselves. It starts the day after injury and certainly the day after surgery. No matter which joint is hurt, it can be isolated, and the rest of the body exercised. Having a terrific trainer and physical therapist helps introduce you to novel ways to drive up your heart rate, strengthen your core, and mobilize your entire body. Getting in a great sweat workout raises your testosterone levels, increases the circulation of adrenalin, dopamine, and pheromones."
My pain is daily 7-9 depending on how active I am. After 2 years it has gone from a everyday 10, but I do have a career. By the time I get home in the afternoon I'm at a 9 or 10 and still have things to do with the kids. It gets hard from day to day
Stay strong
Keep going, you got this
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Going into surgery for the ankle next week really scared what the outcome will be
Wishing you the best!
I hope your recovery is going well may God be with you.
This is a great story. Thank you for sharing. I'm dealing with just a calcaneus fx. Thinking about getting the sub-talar fusion. I'm glad you're much better now.
Hello there. Thanks for the comment. I am sharing a link to our Saving My Ankle Guide, this will provide info on ankle cartilage repair options that avoid the need for ankle fusion www.stoneclinic.com/saving-my-ankle-guide. While a fusion may provide relief from years of ankle pain, it really should be the very last option you explore as the ankle joint is altered pretty severely and will not function like a normal, mobile ankle joint. Best of luck to you & please contact us if we can be of any help!
after 2.25 years of pain after an accident, my surgeon has suggested that I consider ankle fusion. After hearing this story and seeing others talk about theirs, this may be the next course of action. Thanks for the information.
I had an ankle replacement and my life was given back to me. I highly recommend
@@maricalane2242 how old are you? My doc didn’t recommend replacement. Just bone fusion. I’m 33
@@knownstranger6186 Same question. I'm getting a fusion surgery in two days. Wasn't given the replacement option. I'm 32.
@@missingfaktor June 6th 2022 marks my 1 year of having fusion surgery. I am so glad I went through with it. No more pain in my ankle whatsoever. I can actually run somewhat now. I hope yours turns out as well as mine did.
@@knownstranger6186this makes me so hopeful to hear!!
I too have a similar story. Fell 12 ft rock climbing. I've had an OATS already and 2 other "clean up," surgeries. I recently had a cortisone shot and dis something I have done in a very long time, I went on a 6 mile hike with my son. I know this won't last but I don't know what do next. Doctors have recommended replacement and fusion. I want to wait as long as possible before my next surgery. I had significant atrophy in my right calf but I don't know what to do next. I've considered amputation and doctors have all told me that's not a good idea. I'm frustrated, I have a career, I'm very active, and for me a fusion seems like it's the end.
I'm in a situation where I broke my ankle in 3 places Jan.7, 2016. My first surgeon screwed up literally , hardware got loose , joint out of alignment and I was constantly in pain. I got me a new surgeon , he removed hardware and concerns about infection became part of the puzzle. I was fitted for a brace / boot to be used to simulate a fusion. I did better for a while but suddenly I couldn't even stand. Diagnosis , I did too much and angered the nerves. I did this a second time as rest and using my air boot appeared to heal things the first time. My second event caused me to stay in bed & use a wheelchair to get around. Nothing Helped. After 7 weeks now of this I said "Enough ". I decided to go with a fusion , I now got to schedule it.. It's either going to work , I keep MY foot and return to activities I enjoyed & miss. The BIG decision isn't now , I try it , hope & pray it works , if not then OK decision time. At 63 years old , Wheelchair chair or Amputation ? Scary thinking about it but why put the cart before the horse when another option exists to keep MY foot First if it don't work out then worry about the FINAL Option. Good Luck to you my friend , this is your decision to make , I want to keep what was given to me @ birth for as long as possible until my options run out to remain comfortable & do the things I want to do pain free.
I had a subtalar Fusion 14 weeks ago & the pain in my ankle is still there. Every time I move my foot or stand, I feel it. My surgeon is hesitant about removing the screws because of the previous four surgeries on my ankle. I pray I don’t have to live with this the rest of my life. I also need the other foot done but can’t until this one heals. Has anyone still experienced ankle pain after a subtalar Fusion?
Yes I've had both ankles done (undiagnosed chronic lymes disease for 20+ years) so my body is a mess. Trouble healing on both. Sept 2014 right, Feb 2020 left. Nether fused and because of other health issues I'm in an electric wheelchair. Last time was 9 months straight and then hardware removal before I could start using a Walker. It's been a nightmare.
I had a sub talar fusion 22 months ago. Had pain and swelling until last month. PT did not help, actually made pain and swelling worse. I have been having massage therapy for about 18 months. Last month the pain and swelling got better. Today I can walk almost normally but still have weakness and very little pain, more of a discomfort than actual pain. Swelling is down as my therapist has been breaking up the scar tissue from 4 previous ankle surgeries. My surgeon told me I would be able to walk pain free in one year, but it looks like it will be 2 years at this point. I almost gave up and considered amputation , but my massage therapist has really helped me get through this. I have one half hour session every week, and it’s working! Try massage, I think it will help. Good luck.
I am on my second surgery. Going on my third Surgery..
Hi,
I'm having high ankle pain for more than a year. Could you qualify what 6-7 pain means? Where you in pain when you went to bed and you woke up in the morning? What does 1-2 pain mean? Are there some activities that you can't do? I know the patien might not answer but would it be possible to have information from the clinic?
Thank you very much for the info.
+Smack Orino
Thanks, I'll check it out!
I had sub talar ankle fusion (left) ankle 2 years ago, this was due to wear and tear after serving 30 years as a Police officer and towards the end was in severe daily pain, I had bone shavings from my left hip inserted into the ankle (iliac bone cresting I think it’s called), a long recovery but no regrets - I am back doing a full time job averaging 10, 000 steps a day, I have sore and general painful days but nowhere near as bad as pre-op, I am now able to return back to dog walking with my wife which I wasn’t able to before the surgery, hydrotherapy / cold water sea swimming I also find is a great help but generally any high impact sports are a no no ie - running, football, rugby etc. I would totally recommend decent footwear to aid recovery and I found “sketchers” soft soled trainers helped me immensely, to be honest I wear Sketchers now 90 % of the time and I can definitely say this helped my recovery in a bid way.
Hi there, Mark. Thanks so much for sharing your story and helpful tips you've learned from your experience. Glad to hear that your symptoms have eased and your finding ways to stay active.
So glad I watched this as I might need fusion but I may try extreme physical therapy first
Hello, Shughy. We've successfully helped many patients avoid ankle fusion. Fusion can help relieve pain but can cause significant issues later in life. Definitely suggest you check out this video from Dr. Stone before committing to a fusion procedure www.stoneclinic.com/blog/ankle-replacement-vs-ankle-fusion-video-blog
I'm a male in the UK. When I was fifteen I fractured both calcaneus. A doctor showed me xrays and the fractures were barely noticeable. He explained my left is worse, because the fracture/s had entered the joint and I would suffer from arthritis in later life. I could not walk for several months and then used crutches before being able to walk and even run OK. My right foot has been OK (I have nothing to compare it to) however, my left has always given me pain after use. I am 57 now and have leg atrophy and severe ankle pain after minimal use. I try to exercise with elastic band and cycle, but I wonder if I should have surgery.
Hello @Lazzaboyce. Sorry for the delayed response. We missed your comment. Apologies. To answer your question, we would likely to need to review your case personally to give you a real answer. However, severe pain is normally indication that some kind of repair should be performed. I am providing an article that may help answer your question www.stoneclinic.com/blog/ankle-pain-why-it-hurts-when-to-worry. If you would like a more detailed plan, you may speak directly with Dr. Stone about your injury if you arrange a complimentary phone consultation with him www.stoneclinic.com/consult
I had a subtalar fusion 10 years ago. The pain is back! Surgeon is recommending that I have the other 2 joints fused, aka triple arthodesis. Did you just have the main joint cleaned, or multiple fusions?
Do not do it--it rarely works--I've had 3 done at 3 different hospitals in NYC all by chiefs of foot and ankle depts., two done with external fixators. Still have pain and a deformed foot and ankle. Now walk with a 3 and a half inch lift bc of damage done by the surgeries and the need to remove my ankle. They are NOT really fusing your joints. Just messing around in there and pushing things back together in the hope they mend. I went to the best and had the best work done but even when they say 90 percent chance of success, it's still a chance bc 10 percent of the time it doesn't work! If I could go back in time... Good luck
@@cjl93hhhhhhh what would you have done if you could go back in time? im trying to decide between fusion and a total replacement of the ankle
@@cjl93hhhhhhh I am due for my third surgery soon..
I'm curious about the Biological Joint Replacement option you provide. I sustained an open IIIB Pilon Fracture in 2007 that was fixed using 3 percutaneous screws, an illazarov frame and an ALT flap. An MRI scan confirmed (November 2022) severe tibiotalar arthritis with moderate subtalar arthritis and early talonavicular arthritis. There is a chronic injury of the lateral and medial ligament complex. Last week I had an arthroscopic procedure which went very well. The surgeon did an arthroscopic debridement of the anterior ankle joint and also debrided the talonavicular joint. He also managed to fix the ligament. This surgeon has informed me that I will need an ankle fusion at some stage because of my high level of activity, tibiotalar synostosis, and free flap. My question is - would your Biological Joint Replacement technique be suitable for an injury like mine? Many thanks.
Hello, Trudi. Sorry to hear of your ankle injury struggles, but pleased to hear your last surgery went well. Regarding your question, our BioAnkle program is intended to for people with the injuries similar to the one you described you are experiencing. While ankle fusion can provide pain relief, it really is an end-stage solution that we try to avoid or delay at all costs. Dr. Stone has successfully repaired severely damaged ligaments and regenerated the articular cartilage in very arthritic ankles, restoring the mobility and function without the use of implants or screws all while avoiding fusion or ankle replacement procedures. You may learn all about our BioAnkle program in our Saving My Ankle Guide available for download here www.stoneclinic.com/saving-my-ankle-guide.
Here are some other stories from patients who had their ankles restored by our BioAnkle program www.stoneclinic.com/story/patient-avoids-ankle-fusion-bioankle-cartilage-repair-surgery & www.stoneclinic.com/story/ankle-cartilage-surgery-patient-skater-returns-rink
I'm in the same boat. I was in a car accident two years ago and shattered my right foot. I have had five surgeries from three different surgeons. My fourth surgery from the second surgeon went badly. He is a podiatrist and did not know what he was doing so my foot is worse now than it was from the accident. I finally wised up and went to an orthopedic specialist but it was too late. He said the only thing he could do was fuse it because it was such a mess. It is so bad he couldn't get my foot to a 90 degree ankle so it is stuck at 87 degrees. When I walk I have a noticeable limp. It makes my hips so tired. I have considered amputation. Having a choice to do it scares me to death. I am a bodybuilder and bartender so I am used to running around all day but now it is difficult just to do simple tasks. I have to drive with both feet because I have so much nerve damage I can't feel the pedals. If I keep walking like I am I am going to have a hip replacement in the future. I feel like I am damned if I do and damned if I don't. I wish I would have known to go to a specialist first. I haven't been to the gym in all this time and missed a year of work. I now am walking with 16 screws and plates in my foot. If anybody has advice or what you think you would do I would love the feedback. Thanks.
+Elizabeth Howard Sorry about what's going on with your ankles. Perhaps you'd like Dr. Stone to take a look at your case? If you can get all your images to us, you can talk to him on the phone and get some advice. Follow the instructions here - www.stoneclinic.com/consult
5 years later I’m curious on how your doing?
@@alexishuggins7747 thanks. It’s still a struggle but nothing like it was. I still have hip problems and walk with s limp but decided against the amputation.
I’ve had double hip replacements and am currently sidelined with a broken right ankle. My mentality is very important. I’m 31 but as soon as I’m healed I am going to live my life and get stronger. Hang in there friend, life can be cruel but it is also something to appreciate, as I always tell myself, “I may have it worse than other people, but there are other people who have it worse than I do.” Count my blessings and see this as a life challenge that I will overcome. I may hurt in my senior years but I won’t let that stop me from enjoying my life. Stay in there friend!
I crushed both ankles in a climbing accident 2 years ago. I’m dealing with the possibility of two ankle fusions within the next year. With an aggressive approach like this, is it possible I will ever be able to hike or climb or snowboard pain free again? Will I ever be able to run again? I haven’t met with any other clinic to get any other opinions yet.
Hello, @Kathryn. So sorry to hear of your accident and the subsequent injury struggles. Over 30 years, we've seen Dr. Stone take on some incredibly challenging cases with extensive damage (often with, previous failed repaired surgeries elsewhere) and return the athlete to intense levels of sport. So, we're confident if anyone can assist you it is Dr. Stone. We've created a "Saving My Ankles Guide" which covers how we think all patients should approach the care of their ankle to avoid fusion or any artificial components becoming necessary while getting back to full activity. I definitely would recommend downloading this guide (www.stoneclinic.com/saving-my-ankle-guide) and arranging for a complimentary phone consultation if you're interested in learning how we could treat your injury specifically www.stoneclinic.com/consult
i had foot and heel surgery back in 2013 due to not taking care of my sprains so they had to remove scar tissue
is it fully recovered now? no more swollenness and it looks identical to your other ankle?
I have the same now. What’s your update?
Claims of such severe injuries and almost miraculous recovery should be backed up by IMAGES like CT scans and your foot pictures and not just testimonials and your Facebook HIKING photos. This seems like another ad for the clinic. This platform is being flooded with them.
Hi Dimitry, these interviews are recorded to help people understand our patient experience and to help people mitigate the fear and mental hurdles that may impede getting medical care for longstanding injuries. This video was recorded 7 years ago and medical imaging was not as easily exportable to include in a video recording. You can see articular cartilage regrowth in a more recent knee patient here ruclips.net/video/v16Hb6Up55U/видео.html at the 2min mark. Additionally, you may find more scientifically-focused information on our 30 years of detailed clinical research on this procedure here www.stoneresearch.org/articular-cartilage. Hopefully those are helpful in better understanding the efficacy of this procedure in more scientific than personal terms.
What about stem cells for repairment.
With extreme cases such as this, injections alone are not enough to repair the damage. Surgical intervention is required to repair advanced issues, but injections are used to augment the surgery and aid the healing process.
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Ive been hearing more more about fantastic results with stem cells..just throwing it out there..we're a lil backed up here in the States in comparison..you have all these rich ppl going to other countries for these procedures..sucks to have a limit economical status..but if ya have the mula..why not.
@@aracelirosales7328 we always try to avoid unnecessary surgery when possible. So for some patients, we do use targeted injection therapy combined with a physical rehab program and it is enough to alleviate pain and get them back to their activities. It all depends on the severity of the initial issue and how early the damage is addressed. However, injections are not a magical cure-all. They have some promising properties, but are not able to heal severely arthritic joints with necrosis. Here's more information on how we use these injections and their effects www.stoneclinic.com/injections
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Thank you very much for sharing this information..its GOLD!
Where is this Stone Clinic?
Hello, The Stone Clinic is located in San Francisco, CA. If you are local to the San Francisco Bay Area you can make an appointment by calling 415.563.3110. If not, you can still explore your treatment options with us by arranging for a phone consultation. To do so, please follow the instructions on this webpage www.stoneclinic.com/outsideconsult
I had a fall a couple of yrs ago and had a plate and screws put in that was pretty good for a while but now I'm having pain and am unstable on my feet. I saw a foot and ankle surgeon and he said I had a lot of arthritis so he recommended a complete ankle replacement. I think he is a qualified surgeon, so will probably go with that. I feel sure this is going to be a lot worse than my hip replacement which was very easy(last one was jan. '18)so I am not in a big hurry for another surgery but he told me not to wait too long because it will be more difficult on me, I guess because of more damage from arthritis. Good luck to all of you.
Hello, Amberlilly Bassell. Thanks for sharing your experience. Here are a couple articles with information that may be helpful to you. One is an article that gives greater insight into why certain surgeons offer certain solutions www.stoneclinic.com/blog/Bias-Your-Surgeon. The second is another possible solution to ankle arthritis unique to The Stone Clinic called the BioAnkle www.stoneclinic.com/bioankle. Best of luck in your care and please reach out if we can be of any assistance in your recovery.
I am desperate to amputate both my feet from the extreme chronic pain.
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Hello. I have a problem with my calcaneus. I had an accident in 2019. I fell from the building. I broke my both leg calcaneus.
I am in too much pain. I want to get rid of the pain. If you can provide me your e mail i will write you about the condition.
Hello, Sonam. If you are interested in traveling to receive our care, you can arrange for a consultation here www.stoneclinic.com/consult.