On a modern Battleship that is entirely possible due to the sheer size and weight. The reason it worked for pirates back in the day was because ships the size of a Galleon were NOWHERE near as heavy. If a modern warship tried the Blackbeard Slide, it would probably either drag the anchor or break something in such a way that the slide won't even happen. But hey... it made for a good action scene, and the maneuver IS based in history.
This is definitely one of the best "turn off your brain, get snacks and watch the explosions" kind of movies in a long time. It's also great that they featured the Missouri, JPJ and Sampson.
The regents seemed to be acting like a group of unregulated human explorers/miners would although with way more restraint and self control than expected of humans in this circumstance. These guys are lost in space obviously having equipment issues and hoped the friendly signal meant they could find refuge here… just like a human group might
Actually I didn't think this was a bad movie although I know people in the Navy and they're saying that screw it would never became an officer. To me the best part of the movie was the double amputee who really did serve in the US Army in Iraq. That was his first acting role and he did a damn good job.
as a former active duty sailor on an arleigh burke class destroyer, yeah he would have never even made it into the navy, let alone an officer. though now days with the navy changing their recruiting standards... who knows maybe?
Aliens call home, "We need help, we are being attacked by the creatures here! Did you try talking to them first? Well ya see there's a funny story about that........"
To me the key problem was that the sound that damaged the windows was the key failure in communications, then humans began opening fire. If the sound had been the same level as what the ship's horn had been the communications would have been better.
@@toddkes5890 the sound was a communications failure, it was an actual weapon. You can see briefly at the start of the shootout that the aliens registered the Sampson as a threat after it made a sound first (the scanners showed it on red briefly before it registered the JPJ as red too).
I, never considered the aliens wouldn't have been trying to invade. This opened my eyes. They weren't trying to kill us. Their version of Captain Kirk just didn't get to come out and we killed them for it
If they weren't trying to invade then they wouldn't demolish an entire military base and set up a defense barrier around a sizeable portion of the planet. The fact was, they were trying buy time due to what is clearly a botched reconnaisence plan. I always assumed that the ship that collided with a satelite and veered off-course was their long distance comm asset. Hence, why they had to use the human satelites.
@@danielduncan6806 As he said, they weren't trying to invade. The energy we sent, seemed like something of interest and that's why they came. and us being dumb and treating anything as threats. Provoke them, and cause them to respond with lethal actions. They're smart enough to tell if you're hostile. When Ap's attacked the Special Forces brute, he kept listing as Green but it was different from the others.
@@TheNapster153 They did it because we provoked and attacked them. They were there for the energy beam. Being smart, they took out logistical and strategic military points not exactly humans.
@@subjectc7505 Whether they were trying to invade or not is irrelevant. They made a mistake, and it cost them their lives. Oops, it happens. If they came here expecting us to just roll over and take it, that expectation was a mistake. If they came here and were not trying to invade, they messed up wh3en there was an accident and it caused a WHOLE LOT of humans to die. So, as you can see, it doesn't matter what their motivations were, it was a mistake either way. So let this be a lesson to you. When you are trying to do something diplomatic, DON'T FUCK UP. Everything MUST be perfect. Failure at diplomacy is entirely catastrophic. One mistake and it could end up in complete genocide, of one party or the other.
Great Analysis! Your four (4) different scenarios that you put forward made a great deal of sense. I'd give the Aliens the benefit of the doubt that their intentions were peaceful, but in "the heat of battle," no one stops to think that an intention is misinterpreted. Especially since they didn't announce their intention of coming or being invited.
Niyat's exploration of this movie makes me think this could have been so much better with a few alternative dialogue lines and different edit. The idea that the entire film was a First Contact gone totally wrong explains so much of the alien's actions and spawns a lot of interesting possibilities.
@@anthonyc8499 Your analysis also makes a great deal of sense. If the Aliens had sent a message ahead of time that they were send a diplomatic liason to open diplomatic relations, then the misunderstanding wouldn't have happened. Then again, different nations on Earth would start pickering amongst themselves vying for the Alien's trust in search of technological advances. The best movie that I've seen so far in this respect was the original "The Day The Earth Stood Still" (1951). It showcased the pettiness of Mankind's Tribal Nature and how insignificant we still truly are now. Especially in light of current events that are occurring in this World. I grew up on watching "Star Trek TOS" in my younger years (and I'm still a fan of Science Fiction). I had hoped that we could start going out into exploring the Universe without carrying some of our earthly baggage (like war) with us. Now see Outer Space being militarized, it's dashed my hopes that will ever occur. Some things never change.
I got the impression most of them weren't actually "warriors" and were more likely an expedition, similar to say a star trek fleet, but like star trek, because they're high minded and possess a militaristic force among them and in leadership, they resorted to using force to secure themselves. For example they only ever used force when presented with something they deemed hostile, they took far more steps than humans in dangerous environments take to not harm things they see as threats. Even when they boarded the ship to retrieve the prisoner, they could have killed everyone on board with extreme ease, but instead just tried to damage the engine and retrieve their members. They definitely weren't "good guys" in that they did kill and destroy when they could have tried talking first, but also their behavior really makes me think of that of how human military forces often behave in "hostile" environments; for example perceiving others as having the tools and capacity for violence as justification to take steps to disarm them, for example police officers will rapidly escalate the use of force and aggression with the intent of imposing order and control on an environment, with the explicit intent to reduce conflict and violence, but when they're met with rejection of their authority violence occurs from both parties. every human military force does this when they occupy a territory, placing themselves above the locals in the hierarchy of use of power, given our data set of 1 (terrible data set to make assumptions from) it makes sense that an alien species (especially a fictional one made to mirror us) would behave in the same way, especially when they possess vastly superior technology and probably harbour the corresponding sense of social and ethical superiority.
@@17091ira0072 A "corresponding sense of social or ethical superiority" doesn't excuse for at least sending a message ahead of time for a visit, though you've made an excellent point but the Aliens committing collateral damage. Sending ships could be misinterpreted as an invasion. Such was the meaning of the episode ("Tell Our Moms We Done Our Best") of "Space: Above and Beyond" during the talks with the Chig Ambassador who explain that they themselves were of Earth. Also is one of the reasons why some scientists (most notably Stephan Hawkins) that have warned about sending out messages towards our Solar System. Personally, I'm of the opinion that they're already here and have been, even before "Man" arrived on this Planet. Many people discount prior civilizations because of lack of evidence. However, the series "Life Without People" shows that building structures are obliterated within the first 10,000 to 50,000 years if not maintained.
Sadly they could've only had hostile intentions if they weren't hostile they would've sent messages while transiting to our solar system they definitely would not have landed they would've entered orbit or if they were more paranoid enter orbit further out say mars or Jupiter then made contact or studied us before attempting to land you don't land on a foreign planet with sentient life without making contact first and they definitely would've had time to analyze our communications and send a reply before traveling hundreds of thousands of light years so sadly only the first two scenarios make logical sense unless of course they're not a very intelligent species received our signal weren't able to analyze or interpret anything besides sentient life sent it and from which direction and then sent a scouting party Only ever two scenarios when it comes to aliens and earth they're here to kill us or welcome us and if they're here to welcome us it makes enough sense that they would be very cautious in doing so and weirdly the first case where they're here to kill us is only ever for xenophobic reasons as materials and resources are plentiful in space and you don't need to overcome a huge gravity well to access them that combined with the abundance of potentially habitable planets means they wouldn't want our planet for living on. And the worst part is a lot of alien invasion movies decided they want out water for some silly reason the most abundant form of matter in the universe bar hydrogen and oxygen it's two components
As a former soldier, I like the way the movie paid respect to both military old and new and bridged that gap by having them working together as a team. Yes the movie is over the tap, but the action is good and the story is decent.
It would be quite ironic if the aliens would send a second fleet for retaliation, it devolving into all out war between the two planets, only for much much later both sides be like 'But you shot first!' So lesson learned, if you come to a world different than your own, don't just drop into their backyard to say hello. Instead keep a biiiiit of a distance, maybe lunar orbit, and just ping them with a simple radio message.
Exactly, only reason for them to drop on the surface with armed vessels no less (if we assume they were peaceful) was if they were critically damaged during their travel in space.
@@bn-tc2tk If that is meant as a sincere question, than yes, i do go into the woods without a gun. But if i went with a gun i could very easily predict that everyone who sees i have a gun would be immediately distrustfull of me. Not to mention that i presume they tried to establish a contact here which makes it only worse, that they came armed.
@@martinondryas2035 to be fair to the aliens they came with armed vessels as escort to protect the main ship knowing that the planet (earth) has intelligent life that is capable of sending messages to space so they assume we are also capable of being a threat
@@martinondryas2035 You mean like, for example, colliding with a satelite that they had no way to differentiate from some human weapon system - only knowing the comms ship was suddenly destroyed, isolating them
The thing i first noticed in the movie was the suits the Aliens wear do not really seem made for what i would consider a frontline fighting force they seem more like suits to allow them to work in places where not having the suit will kill them and the heavier ones seemed to be used as soldiers due to the actions of humans but they seem more like a sort of building and heavy lifting design to me then again i have played enough computer games to notice things that seem off about so called invasion movies
Maybe they were just an engineering team? Their objective was to establish a communication link. That kind of sounds like a workers thing and not so much a Seal Team thing? We can dream right?
My head-canon is that the Regent ships were merely a first-contact expedition with some firepower for self-defense and that the true leaders of the group, while wearing what amounts to spacesuits with armor, were civilians; diplomats, scientists, and xeno-cultural experts. The possibility of peaceful communication between Earth and the Regents, if they were to return, seems like it would be primarily an effort on the part of the Regents. While the over-the-top silliness of our very aggressive response ended in a "win" for Humanity in the movie, I suspect that things would have gone extremely pear-shaped for us if the Regents had come to the Sol system with an actual war fleet, to do to Earth what Commodore Perry did to a bunch of Japanese fishing villages.
@@russkatherealoriginal6904 Oh no doubt. We are the wild-eyed, trenchcoat-wearing crazy person, armed with an RPG-7, with an inflatable floaty ring around the waist, and a boot-hat. Actually, one eye is looking up and the other is looking over that way. :waves in random direction: Humans are the ultimate representation of Gary Larson's comic panel, "Nature's way of saying, Don't Touch."
Given they weren't able to send a signal out in the movie. I'd like to imagine another expedition shows up, doesn't loose the comms ship, and is like "so do you know what happened to the last guys?"
@@bjboss1119 LOL! Aaaand in that scenario, somebody might, perhaps unwisely, say, "Oh! Um. We didn' see nuffin. No'sir. Your friends went that a way," suspicious-looking person waves, vaguely, in what they think is the direction of Venus. "We told 'em not to go there, cause it's terribly hot and corrosive, but they insisted. Warned 'em, we did. Not to go. Venus, that is. Is hot. Notta pleasant neighborhood. Nope. Stuff's always gettin' crushed and corroded all to scrap. But went there they did anyway." And there is surreptitious kicking of a limp arm behind a tatty couch.
Despite the film trying so hard to be a Bayformers, it's still of my biggest guilty pleasure blockbuster back in the day, solely for the action sequences.
If they were advanced enough to travel to distant planets, they're smart enough to know that what they were planning was going to be met with a defensive force.
@Prehistoric Hero that would probably be the smartest tbh but if they needed liquid water that may have been why they just went to the source of the signal and assuming they have the tech to scan the planet and find a suitable landing site. But then again if they did they should have seen the satellite one of their ships hit lol
For me I started asking questions about the true intent of the alien invaders when one of them spared the life of that scientists who had got trapped trying to retrieve a radio transmitter. Thank you for giving this movie the context to which to understand it.
Having seen this when I was a kid, it was literally the best movie ever; it had aliens, cool spaceships, and big explosions. But having rewatched it several times recently just for fun, I've noticed that there's actually a lot of care and effort put into making the Regents a believable militaristic society, as well as believable aliens in general, with even their ships appropriately taking queues from life on their planet as we commonly have to our own vessels. And the fact the movie openly supports nearly all the theories as to why they reacted the way they did is also a sign of even more effort put in to show what a breakdown of communication can do to two different parties; they have Friend/Foe identification systems that recognize us as posing no threat, but any weapons causes them to take action and disable XYZ immediately. Are they friendly and reacted accordingly to our actions? Maybe. Are they hostile and defended themselves accordingly? Maybe. All works pretty well overall.
If they had called it literally anything else then it wouldnt be looked on so badly. To me it reminded me alot of seeing the first Transformers movie from 2007; Yes, the action was dumb, but it was fun dumb. It was something I would gladly sit through again and again. I'm able to forgive the poor writing for both Battleship and Transformers because they're both admittedly fun movies to sit through, as long as you don't pay attention to those small details 😂😂 Great video as always, Niyat! I saw how you did a video on Until Dawn a few years back, so I wanna ask if you feel like doing a video about the werewolves of The Quarry too?
I remember people generally hating this movie but I really enjoyed it. That might have been because I didn't realize it was actually based on the game battleship going into it and so thought it was just a decent sci-fi alien movie on its own.
I love how the vet goes from having given up on life, to looking at a two ton, clad in armor alien cyborg, and going "i will drop you and there's nothing you can do about it". Also this is my favorite movie, and yes it's the battleship drifting into, and subsequently firing broadside upon, technologically advanced aliens. Let me reiterate, _THEY MADE A BATTLESHIP DRIFT. INTO BROADSIDE. _*_WHILE ROCKING TO METAL._*
Anyone can say what they will about this movie, but I refuse to be told the aliens and their ships and technology weren't incredibly interesting and entertaining. These and the Prawns from District 9 feel like the best versions of traditional extraterrestrials seen on film to date. (Speaking of which, a battle between those two would be absolutely sick to witness).
I will say that I love this form of advanced intelligent life concept. They are really formidable and could dispatch an entire fleet. However, they are not stupid overpowering, and their ships, albeit traveling in a very different way, are almost exactly like our ships. They can be destroyed as easily as an earth ship. In the end, their downfall was the lack of a defense system like the Anti-Air Gatling gun that the humans used so much and to great effect. They could have created a sort of localized energy shield, but they probably weren't expecting humanity to fight back so well.
Regents would wipe the floor with Prawns in their form as shown in the movie. In fact it would be a beating so bad humanity would probably intervene out of sympathy for the Prawns 😂
The more I stew it over in my mind it does make alot of sense. A research team with security detail is sent to try have a peaceful first interaction and we simply mistake it for an act of aggression
Another good example of complete collapse in communication is in Babylon 5, the Minbari War Human fleet meets Minbari for the first time and they can't talk to each other because they don't understand the languages So Minbari do their standard move when meeting a new species: show their guns as a sign of respect And Humans panic, thinking they are about to attack, so in that moment they open fire, and start a war that killed millions and almost ended with humanity's extinction
Worth pointing out Minbari technology was so advance human ships could scan them so they didn't know the weapons were "hot", and the Minbari leader did call out the crew of the ship for opening the weapon ports as it could lead to...well, what it did happen
@@kingseb2252 humanity survived, but it was down to Earth and Mars while most of the other colonies were either wiped out or scattered. Then the leadership of their species realized that there was more to humans than a "violent species" and called off the war before it ended in extinction
I don't understand why so many critics hated this movie. It may not be perfect but it is undeniable how fun it is to see two rival groups joining some retired veterans outsmarting those aliens and blasting their highly advanced ship using an old decommissioned battleship.
A true masterpiece in its own way. I was kind of hoping the new Tetris movie would follow in Battleship’s footsteps (big and dumb spectacle) and have only a tenuous relationship to the game it’s based on.
Outstanding video. Battleship is one of my favorite turn brain off have fun movies. I'd never heard those theories before, but I've always had questions about some of the things I noticed personally while watching the film. Theory three really resonates and lines up with my thoughts nicely.
*Love how you said “there just a mere reflection of humans” just like you and us it gives me a feeling like we have to evolve more to understand* *everything that we know and the things that we don’t know of*
Admiral Shane: “ I want every available plane on this ship in the air, now!” Loved that line. When I first watched it, I thought that the aliens came to earth just to turn off our spaceward broadcast, for altruistic reasons. Because they knew of a much more vicious and superior alien race that, if they found our broadcast and tracked it back to earth, they’d destroy/enslave humanity. This race, that landed on earth, was locked in a war with this other race. Their intention was to keep earth out of a galactic war that we weren’t ready for. But when their landing went side ways, they had to hard shift from a surgical in-and-out, to hot wiring the broadcast calling for help, and defending themselves doing as little harm as possible. Which I interrupted as … those SF aliens that were aggressive, was because they had lost friends to the basic species that they were here to save.
I loved how you talked about this whole story, talking about strategy, small details and the Fog of War! Things that when I watched as kid and forgot, I see now with more knowledge about warfare and the meanings of actions , all that makes me loves even more this movie (at least the alien army cof cof)
The old guys taking charge definitely was one of, if not, the best part in the movie! That kind of scene really ups the overall likeability of the whole film.
I honestly wish there was a sequel to this. While not the best movie of all time I genuinely love it. The End credits scene shows that they planned one. I hope one day it can see the light of day. And hopefully done well XD.
Also (idk if anyone will actually see this XD) But did you know they made a video game for this? it actually wasnt that bad in my opinion XD. was one of my first FPS experiences.
Good analysis. Never occurred to me that they came peacefully and were protecting themselves. It makes sense now that you pointed out them not wanting to kill a noncombatant. Makes me want to see it again in a new light.
From what I understood in the movie and when you try to compare to what humans would do in the same situation, I think the regents were an exploratory team sent in to investigate the weird signals. When one ship accidentally hits the satellite and crashes, they might have thought of it as an defensive weapon of some sort (remember, they may not understand our technology). Backed by the fact that 3 warships greeted them as they touched down. Yes, the regents might have fired the first shot, but maybe horns were unknown to them and the shockwaves were some sort of communications to them since they are underwater dwellers and the only reason the earth's ships were damaged was because we have a weaker building integrity than their ships (if that blast was really a weapon, they should've used it in the final battle). When the ships started engaging the regents, they came to the conclusion that the planet was hostile, went defensive, and just wanted to get off the planet and maybe the reason why they wanted to get a contact to their world was possibly to ask for any way to lift their ship up to the atmosphere (in earth, we used rockets to propel spaceships into atmosphere. Since we didnt see their ships fly for up to 500m above sea level, it is possible that we have the same take off technology). I'm not sure though, but the possibilities were endless with the movie. Great video by the way!
17:05 my favorite scenario’s Scenario 3 *they are simply a communications group being escorted by a security detail to make first contact.* *Their destroyed hub was a means of communicating directly with humanity.* *But the module destroyed on entry the mothership surrounded by a global armada.* *They were in defensive mode.* Scenario 4 *They’re a mining team remnants of a fractured planet torn apart by war which would explain their burrowing weaponry equipment.* *Of course.* *With their communications module destroyed and a global fleet closing in on their position they also went in defensive mode*. *Their attack on Hawaii was simply to establish communications to call for help.*
Fun goofy movie for sure. 10/10 would watch again. As far as the reason why I think the regents came to earth is most likely number 3, but I would add that maybe they were looking for a safe harbor after they blew up their own planet.
I think they where fleeing from there home/ planet that was in a civil war and they were the scouts of a bigger fleet too see if they can take refugee on earth but like you said the ships seemed more for mining in water that could also support this theory they could have been used too get resources too build a camp for the fleets arrival or too see if it was a safe environment.
I think this movie is underrated. I really do believe if they made a second move, they can go more into possibly having the regents making peace with us. Thats if the reinforcements they send aren't hostile. After all, I'm sure the regents would send reinforcements out after not getting communications back from the first fleet they sent. There is no way they just has a small unit out without having a mark where they are going and without having a backup plan. But pretty much the moral of the story is that communication is key and as you mentioned the communications at the start went down hill
25:25 This is the issue with firing warning shots at aliens with an alien culture. What's to stop the alien from going, "Oh, that human ship missed us entirely. How favorable. Fire back for his aggression."? Warning shots only work in ship combat when you know for a fact that the other side will stop firing upon you if you stop and honor that arrangement.
Ah real shit, every movie review I watch from “film comics explained” he makes the movie sound dope at even if I didn’t like it when I first seen it! Good good bro💪🏾💪🏾
I’d love to see them make a sequel to this set maybe 10 years after first contact!! With humans having recovered much of the alien technology and doing everything they can to understand and reverse engineer the tech. It would be a great movie if the story is written right!! Like I enjoyed Independence Day resurgence sure the sphere showing up with super advanced tech to give them the fighting edge over the aliens was a bit weird but I was looking forward to the next movie
i honestly loved this movie, the feel good moment at the end with all the veterans taking their old ship out to war and not as a parade or a show of history but to fight for the fate of earth! i miss all these types of movies we took them for granted and now not even the marvel movies are worth watching.
Ok. Thats a detail I didn’t take notice of. The ranks of them. This is some brilliant insight to a very basic movie that realistically flumped. But is still quite entertaining by itself.
I always liked how they portrayed the aliens as a varied in behaviour, not some monolithic species where every individual acts and behaves the same. They probably have a sense of honor and a moral compass that prevent them from harming innocent lives for no reason. One of the aliens even going as far as trying to spare the soldier guy with the prosthetic leg when he saw he was unarmed and with a disability.
I loved this movie! I know I know!!! I never even considered that the aliens could’ve been friendly, thanks for the insight! Great video, and it’s made me reconsider this movie? I’m definitely watching it again with that view, I’ll bet it only gets better!!
Hey Niat, great work with this video analysis of the movie. Yeah, I don't think we are ready for alien contact yet. We still need at the very least 75 to 100 years until we are ready to talk and/or meet any intelligent extraterrestrial life in any major capacity. Your videos really deserve to be recognized by the higher ups of our government and scientists so they can see where we should learn not to be so hostile. One more thing, not to sound impatient or insensitive, when do you think you can make that Pokemon Arceus information video? Again, not trying to come off as impatient or insensitive, I just would to know a rough timeframe. Either way, stay safe and keep up the great work.
Brilliant analysis. I noticed that too. Where the aliens didn't go all ham in certain situations. Maybe they, or that particular faction, have some kind of code similar to a Predator where they only kill for sport and would rather a challenge. The alien female (I believe was a female) didn't attack that profesor when she discovered him. Also, if I remember correctly, the Earth sea ships fired first at them or was that a warning shot? Would be good to have a sequeal and show more of the Regent's perspective. They left it open.
Know this movie ranked but I enjoyed it especially the ending. Watching a WW2 battleship take down the main ship was pretty badass. Not sure if it’s stated but how many ly was planet G and I’m guess their ships could go either at or above light speed.
I always knew that they were trying to hold back and be a peaceful as possible but us being humans we kill anything we don’t understand so I actually did feel a lot of pity and sorrow for the regents cause it seem like they were running out of options for survival, and they hope that they could communicate with us and give us technology probably for land And it would’ve jumped mankind thousands of years scientifically and if this was to happen in the same format, it would most likely happen like in the movie because humans are always shoot first ask questions later, which is really tragic. When you think about it, I do hope if aliens, do show up and they are here in peace That we recognize it before we start a war, that we most likely won’t win. Also really good job on the description of the show and the aliens and ask for your question I would say the fourth option to develop relations and peace.
Personally, I think the aliens were trying to invade. The only reason they didn't attack first is because they didn't perceive anyone a threat until fired upon. As you stated, they were superior in many ways.
If they were, pretty sure they would already be done so. It doesn't make sense to crash on a planet, sink three ships, attack a base and bridge and boot up the communications satellite. We saw what the stingrays and mother ships are capable of. They can easily rekt Havroc and the rest just comes to set up things and rebuild.
Actually there is one scene where one of them comes into contact with an alien and see’s they are a world conquering species. Basically it was a war game for the planet.
I really love that one scene where they drifted the boat. This movie is ridiculous as hell but boy do I love it.
That's actually a real tactic they use in real life from what I heard
In the novel they describe it as the Blackbeard Slide. We also see a similar maneuver in one of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies.
@@ssww3 lol please tell me you’re kidding….
On a modern Battleship that is entirely possible due to the sheer size and weight. The reason it worked for pirates back in the day was because ships the size of a Galleon were NOWHERE near as heavy. If a modern warship tried the Blackbeard Slide, it would probably either drag the anchor or break something in such a way that the slide won't even happen.
But hey... it made for a good action scene, and the maneuver IS based in history.
Yep!
Where does it say 'documentary'?
Movies are supposed to be fun and an escape from reality.
I thought that was the whole point. 😎
This is definitely one of the best "turn off your brain, get snacks and watch the explosions" kind of movies in a long time. It's also great that they featured the Missouri, JPJ and Sampson.
I was hunting for a decent description, ya nailed it. Dont think about the how's and whys and it's a great film!
The regents seemed to be acting like a group of unregulated human explorers/miners would although with way more restraint and self control than expected of humans in this circumstance. These guys are lost in space obviously having equipment issues and hoped the friendly signal meant they could find refuge here… just like a human group might
Actually I didn't think this was a bad movie although I know people in the Navy and they're saying that screw it would never became an officer. To me the best part of the movie was the double amputee who really did serve in the US Army in Iraq. That was his first acting role and he did a damn good job.
He reminds me of crispy.
It's just science fiction just a film those navy guys were confusing the film to a historical film!
as a former active duty sailor on an arleigh burke class destroyer, yeah he would have never even made it into the navy, let alone an officer. though now days with the navy changing their recruiting standards... who knows maybe?
It was a badly done US military propaganda
@@t.a6159 *ALL* movies featuring the military are propaganda, genius. Same with cop shows.
Aliens call home, "We need help, we are being attacked by the creatures here! Did you try talking to them first? Well ya see there's a funny story about that........"
To me the key problem was that the sound that damaged the windows was the key failure in communications, then humans began opening fire. If the sound had been the same level as what the ship's horn had been the communications would have been better.
@@toddkes5890 the sound was a communications failure, it was an actual weapon. You can see briefly at the start of the shootout that the aliens registered the Sampson as a threat after it made a sound first (the scanners showed it on red briefly before it registered the JPJ as red too).
I, never considered the aliens wouldn't have been trying to invade. This opened my eyes. They weren't trying to kill us. Their version of Captain Kirk just didn't get to come out and we killed them for it
Their reasons and/or motivations are/were irrelevant. Even if it was all some mistake or whatever; it was a fatal mistake, mistakes are often fatal.
If they weren't trying to invade then they wouldn't demolish an entire military base and set up a defense barrier around a sizeable portion of the planet.
The fact was, they were trying buy time due to what is clearly a botched reconnaisence plan. I always assumed that the ship that collided with a satelite and veered off-course was their long distance comm asset. Hence, why they had to use the human satelites.
@@danielduncan6806 As he said, they weren't trying to invade. The energy we sent, seemed like something of interest and that's why they came. and us being dumb and treating anything as threats. Provoke them, and cause them to respond with lethal actions.
They're smart enough to tell if you're hostile. When Ap's attacked the Special Forces brute, he kept listing as Green but it was different from the others.
@@TheNapster153 They did it because we provoked and attacked them. They were there for the energy beam. Being smart, they took out logistical and strategic military points not exactly humans.
@@subjectc7505 Whether they were trying to invade or not is irrelevant. They made a mistake, and it cost them their lives. Oops, it happens.
If they came here expecting us to just roll over and take it, that expectation was a mistake. If they came here and were not trying to invade, they messed up wh3en there was an accident and it caused a WHOLE LOT of humans to die.
So, as you can see, it doesn't matter what their motivations were, it was a mistake either way.
So let this be a lesson to you. When you are trying to do something diplomatic, DON'T FUCK UP. Everything MUST be perfect. Failure at diplomacy is entirely catastrophic. One mistake and it could end up in complete genocide, of one party or the other.
Great Analysis! Your four (4) different scenarios that you put forward made a great deal of sense. I'd give the Aliens the benefit of the doubt that their intentions were peaceful, but in "the heat of battle," no one stops to think that an intention is misinterpreted. Especially since they didn't announce their intention of coming or being invited.
Niyat's exploration of this movie makes me think this could have been so much better with a few alternative dialogue lines and different edit. The idea that the entire film was a First Contact gone totally wrong explains so much of the alien's actions and spawns a lot of interesting possibilities.
@@anthonyc8499 Your analysis also makes a great deal of sense. If the Aliens had sent a message ahead of time that they were send a diplomatic liason to open diplomatic relations, then the misunderstanding wouldn't have happened. Then again, different nations on Earth would start pickering amongst themselves vying for the Alien's trust in search of technological advances. The best movie that I've seen so far in this respect was the original "The Day The Earth Stood Still" (1951). It showcased the pettiness of Mankind's Tribal Nature and how insignificant we still truly are now. Especially in light of current events that are occurring in this World. I grew up on watching "Star Trek TOS" in my younger years (and I'm still a fan of Science Fiction). I had hoped that we could start going out into exploring the Universe without carrying some of our earthly baggage (like war) with us. Now see Outer Space being militarized, it's dashed my hopes that will ever occur. Some things never change.
I got the impression most of them weren't actually "warriors" and were more likely an expedition, similar to say a star trek fleet, but like star trek, because they're high minded and possess a militaristic force among them and in leadership, they resorted to using force to secure themselves. For example they only ever used force when presented with something they deemed hostile, they took far more steps than humans in dangerous environments take to not harm things they see as threats. Even when they boarded the ship to retrieve the prisoner, they could have killed everyone on board with extreme ease, but instead just tried to damage the engine and retrieve their members. They definitely weren't "good guys" in that they did kill and destroy when they could have tried talking first, but also their behavior really makes me think of that of how human military forces often behave in "hostile" environments; for example perceiving others as having the tools and capacity for violence as justification to take steps to disarm them, for example police officers will rapidly escalate the use of force and aggression with the intent of imposing order and control on an environment, with the explicit intent to reduce conflict and violence, but when they're met with rejection of their authority violence occurs from both parties. every human military force does this when they occupy a territory, placing themselves above the locals in the hierarchy of use of power, given our data set of 1 (terrible data set to make assumptions from) it makes sense that an alien species (especially a fictional one made to mirror us) would behave in the same way, especially when they possess vastly superior technology and probably harbour the corresponding sense of social and ethical superiority.
@@17091ira0072 A "corresponding sense of social or ethical superiority" doesn't excuse for at least sending a message ahead of time for a visit, though you've made an excellent point but the Aliens committing collateral damage. Sending ships could be misinterpreted as an invasion. Such was the meaning of the episode ("Tell Our Moms We Done Our Best") of "Space: Above and Beyond" during the talks with the Chig Ambassador who explain that they themselves were of Earth. Also is one of the reasons why some scientists (most notably Stephan Hawkins) that have warned about sending out messages towards our Solar System. Personally, I'm of the opinion that they're already here and have been, even before "Man" arrived on this Planet. Many people discount prior civilizations because of lack of evidence. However, the series "Life Without People" shows that building structures are obliterated within the first 10,000 to 50,000 years if not maintained.
Sadly they could've only had hostile intentions if they weren't hostile they would've sent messages while transiting to our solar system they definitely would not have landed they would've entered orbit or if they were more paranoid enter orbit further out say mars or Jupiter then made contact or studied us before attempting to land you don't land on a foreign planet with sentient life without making contact first and they definitely would've had time to analyze our communications and send a reply before traveling hundreds of thousands of light years so sadly only the first two scenarios make logical sense unless of course they're not a very intelligent species received our signal weren't able to analyze or interpret anything besides sentient life sent it and from which direction and then sent a scouting party
Only ever two scenarios when it comes to aliens and earth they're here to kill us or welcome us and if they're here to welcome us it makes enough sense that they would be very cautious in doing so and weirdly the first case where they're here to kill us is only ever for xenophobic reasons as materials and resources are plentiful in space and you don't need to overcome a huge gravity well to access them that combined with the abundance of potentially habitable planets means they wouldn't want our planet for living on. And the worst part is a lot of alien invasion movies decided they want out water for some silly reason the most abundant form of matter in the universe bar hydrogen and oxygen it's two components
As a former soldier, I like the way the movie paid respect to both military old and new and bridged that gap by having them working together as a team. Yes the movie is over the tap, but the action is good and the story is decent.
War criminals to be accurate
It would be quite ironic if the aliens would send a second fleet for retaliation, it devolving into all out war between the two planets, only for much much later both sides be like 'But you shot first!'
So lesson learned, if you come to a world different than your own, don't just drop into their backyard to say hello. Instead keep a biiiiit of a distance, maybe lunar orbit, and just ping them with a simple radio message.
Exactly, only reason for them to drop on the surface with armed vessels no less (if we assume they were peaceful) was if they were critically damaged during their travel in space.
@@martinondryas2035 or if they didn’t know how we’d react? You don’t go into the woods without a gun do you?
@@bn-tc2tk If that is meant as a sincere question, than yes, i do go into the woods without a gun. But if i went with a gun i could very easily predict that everyone who sees i have a gun would be immediately distrustfull of me. Not to mention that i presume they tried to establish a contact here which makes it only worse, that they came armed.
@@martinondryas2035 to be fair to the aliens they came with armed vessels as escort to protect the main ship knowing that the planet (earth) has intelligent life that is capable of sending messages to space so they assume we are also capable of being a threat
@@martinondryas2035 You mean like, for example, colliding with a satelite that they had no way to differentiate from some human weapon system - only knowing the comms ship was suddenly destroyed, isolating them
The thing i first noticed in the movie was the suits the Aliens wear do not really seem made for what i would consider a frontline fighting force they seem more like suits to allow them to work in places where not having the suit will kill them and the heavier ones seemed to be used as soldiers due to the actions of humans but they seem more like a sort of building and heavy lifting design to me then again i have played enough computer games to notice things that seem off about so called invasion movies
Maybe they were just an engineering team? Their objective was to establish a communication link. That kind of sounds like a workers thing and not so much a Seal Team thing? We can dream right?
Personally, I think it was a recon team...not there to fight necessarily but to scope things out, testing out the waters literally
Their suits kinda feel like their planets answer to iron man
This movie was orginally going to be a Mass Effect movie based off the Turian Human war but that was scrapped but the suits stayed
My head-canon is that the Regent ships were merely a first-contact expedition with some firepower for self-defense and that the true leaders of the group, while wearing what amounts to spacesuits with armor, were civilians; diplomats, scientists, and xeno-cultural experts.
The possibility of peaceful communication between Earth and the Regents, if they were to return, seems like it would be primarily an effort on the part of the Regents. While the over-the-top silliness of our very aggressive response ended in a "win" for Humanity in the movie, I suspect that things would have gone extremely pear-shaped for us if the Regents had come to the Sol system with an actual war fleet, to do to Earth what Commodore Perry did to a bunch of Japanese fishing villages.
Still, they were relatively stupid on how they approached first contact, and I meant the Regent's way of doing it.
@@russkatherealoriginal6904 Oh no doubt. We are the wild-eyed, trenchcoat-wearing crazy person, armed with an RPG-7, with an inflatable floaty ring around the waist, and a boot-hat.
Actually, one eye is looking up and the other is looking over that way. :waves in random direction:
Humans are the ultimate representation of Gary Larson's comic panel, "Nature's way of saying, Don't Touch."
Given they weren't able to send a signal out in the movie. I'd like to imagine another expedition shows up, doesn't loose the comms ship, and is like "so do you know what happened to the last guys?"
@@bjboss1119 LOL!
Aaaand in that scenario, somebody might, perhaps unwisely, say, "Oh! Um. We didn' see nuffin. No'sir. Your friends went that a way," suspicious-looking person waves, vaguely, in what they think is the direction of Venus. "We told 'em not to go there, cause it's terribly hot and corrosive, but they insisted. Warned 'em, we did. Not to go. Venus, that is. Is hot. Notta pleasant neighborhood. Nope. Stuff's always gettin' crushed and corroded all to scrap. But went there they did anyway." And there is surreptitious kicking of a limp arm behind a tatty couch.
@@bjboss1119 Regents later learn that it was a simple cultural misunderstanding and things are kept under wraps.
Despite the film trying so hard to be a Bayformers, it's still of my biggest guilty pleasure blockbuster back in the day, solely for the action sequences.
If they were advanced enough to travel to distant planets, they're smart enough to know that what they were planning was going to be met with a defensive force.
No battle plan survives contact with the enemy.
Earth's Magnetic field was wreaking havoc with their technology
We can’t even effectively communicate within ourselves, how’d they think we would be able to manage with a completely different world species lmao
@Prehistoric Hero that would probably be the smartest tbh but if they needed liquid water that may have been why they just went to the source of the signal and assuming they have the tech to scan the planet and find a suitable landing site. But then again if they did they should have seen the satellite one of their ships hit lol
"c'mon guys, we set down, it will be fine. Big laser, lots of equipment they won't understand, should go well."
@Prehistoric Hero tbf, I think Europa has ridiculous amounts of ammonia in its oceans, that could preclude it's water from use.
For me
I started asking questions about the true intent of the alien invaders when one of them spared the life of that scientists who had got trapped trying to retrieve a radio transmitter.
Thank you for giving this movie the context to which to understand it.
Having seen this when I was a kid, it was literally the best movie ever; it had aliens, cool spaceships, and big explosions. But having rewatched it several times recently just for fun, I've noticed that there's actually a lot of care and effort put into making the Regents a believable militaristic society, as well as believable aliens in general, with even their ships appropriately taking queues from life on their planet as we commonly have to our own vessels. And the fact the movie openly supports nearly all the theories as to why they reacted the way they did is also a sign of even more effort put in to show what a breakdown of communication can do to two different parties; they have Friend/Foe identification systems that recognize us as posing no threat, but any weapons causes them to take action and disable XYZ immediately. Are they friendly and reacted accordingly to our actions? Maybe. Are they hostile and defended themselves accordingly? Maybe. All works pretty well overall.
If they had called it literally anything else then it wouldnt be looked on so badly. To me it reminded me alot of seeing the first Transformers movie from 2007; Yes, the action was dumb, but it was fun dumb. It was something I would gladly sit through again and again. I'm able to forgive the poor writing for both Battleship and Transformers because they're both admittedly fun movies to sit through, as long as you don't pay attention to those small details 😂😂
Great video as always, Niyat! I saw how you did a video on Until Dawn a few years back, so I wanna ask if you feel like doing a video about the werewolves of The Quarry too?
I'll have to add the Quarry to the list! Havent had a chance to check it out yet
I felt like a little kid when the transformers came out! I made sure that I saw it on a big TV with an awesome sound system! Dual subwoofers.
I remember people generally hating this movie but I really enjoyed it. That might have been because I didn't realize it was actually based on the game battleship going into it and so thought it was just a decent sci-fi alien movie on its own.
I think this movie looks and sounds OUTSTANDING WITH a great cinema system.
Definitely turn up the subwoofer!
I love how the vet goes from having given up on life, to looking at a two ton, clad in armor alien cyborg, and going "i will drop you and there's nothing you can do about it".
Also this is my favorite movie, and yes it's the battleship drifting into, and subsequently firing broadside upon, technologically advanced aliens.
Let me reiterate, _THEY MADE A BATTLESHIP DRIFT. INTO BROADSIDE. _*_WHILE ROCKING TO METAL._*
Was just thinking about this movie, wasn't that great, but that last ship battle with the help of those old navy salts was a real treat
Honestly, as stupid as many people think this movie is, it’s still a fun action flick. Great for Friday movie nights, kinda like Pacific Rim!
Yeah! Pacific Rim, the great stand alone movie that does not have a part 2!
Anyone can say what they will about this movie, but I refuse to be told the aliens and their ships and technology weren't incredibly interesting and entertaining. These and the Prawns from District 9 feel like the best versions of traditional extraterrestrials seen on film to date. (Speaking of which, a battle between those two would be absolutely sick to witness).
I will say that I love this form of advanced intelligent life concept. They are really formidable and could dispatch an entire fleet. However, they are not stupid overpowering, and their ships, albeit traveling in a very different way, are almost exactly like our ships. They can be destroyed as easily as an earth ship. In the end, their downfall was the lack of a defense system like the Anti-Air Gatling gun that the humans used so much and to great effect. They could have created a sort of localized energy shield, but they probably weren't expecting humanity to fight back so well.
Regents would wipe the floor with Prawns in their form as shown in the movie. In fact it would be a beating so bad humanity would probably intervene out of sympathy for the Prawns 😂
I do love that the missiles they shoot look like the pins that go in the ships to show a hit in the actual game. Nice tie in detail
The more I stew it over in my mind it does make alot of sense. A research team with security detail is sent to try have a peaceful first interaction and we simply mistake it for an act of aggression
Another good example of complete collapse in communication is in Babylon 5, the Minbari War
Human fleet meets Minbari for the first time and they can't talk to each other because they don't understand the languages
So Minbari do their standard move when meeting a new species: show their guns as a sign of respect
And Humans panic, thinking they are about to attack, so in that moment they open fire, and start a war that killed millions and almost ended with humanity's extinction
I'm still convinced that the Shadows had a hand in that particular debacle.
Worth pointing out Minbari technology was so advance human ships could scan them so they didn't know the weapons were "hot", and the Minbari leader did call out the crew of the ship for opening the weapon ports as it could lead to...well, what it did happen
Seems like an incredibly stupid thing to do in a first contact scenario.
Just a side note though didn't some humans survive the minbari war
@@kingseb2252 humanity survived, but it was down to Earth and Mars while most of the other colonies were either wiped out or scattered.
Then the leadership of their species realized that there was more to humans than a "violent species" and called off the war before it ended in extinction
I don't understand why so many critics hated this movie. It may not be perfect but it is undeniable how fun it is to see two rival groups joining some retired veterans outsmarting those aliens and blasting their highly advanced ship using an old decommissioned battleship.
It’s just so inaccurate and lacks a good audience. Military history people don’t like how TERRIBLY inaccurate it is and kids don’t care for it any
How did a game about boats, numbers and letters turn into this movie?
Through the infinite power of fanfiction😂😂
wait until you see Tetris got into movie this year
Drugs?
Well... they had to come up with something. After all... the board game has NOTHING to work off of story wise.
@@r01d2 The problem with a Tetris movie is that whenever an actor finishes a line they will disappear
A true masterpiece in its own way. I was kind of hoping the new Tetris movie would follow in Battleship’s footsteps (big and dumb spectacle) and have only a tenuous relationship to the game it’s based on.
Dude. The true life story of Tetris is WAY more interesting than anything they would come up with. Wait for it lol
@@Luciphell I’ll definitely watch it but I kind of would’ve liked to see giant blocks falling from space to crush buildings and entire cities.
I agree they seemed to hold back and we did what we always do
They could easy destroy humanity
Outstanding video. Battleship is one of my favorite turn brain off have fun movies.
I'd never heard those theories before, but I've always had questions about some of the things I noticed personally while watching the film.
Theory three really resonates and lines up with my thoughts nicely.
*Love how you said “there just a mere reflection of humans” just like you and us it gives me a feeling like we have to evolve more to understand* *everything that we know and the things that we don’t know of*
Admiral Shane: “ I want every available plane on this ship in the air, now!” Loved that line.
When I first watched it, I thought that the aliens came to earth just to turn off our spaceward broadcast, for altruistic reasons. Because they knew of a much more vicious and superior alien race that, if they found our broadcast and tracked it back to earth, they’d destroy/enslave humanity. This race, that landed on earth, was locked in a war with this other race. Their intention was to keep earth out of a galactic war that we weren’t ready for. But when their landing went side ways, they had to hard shift from a surgical in-and-out, to hot wiring the broadcast calling for help, and defending themselves doing as little harm as possible. Which I interrupted as … those SF aliens that were aggressive, was because they had lost friends to the basic species that they were here to save.
Honestly love that theory.
This movie is the sole reason i can do pinpoint ship turns in sea of thevis.
I loved how you talked about this whole story, talking about strategy, small details and the Fog of War! Things that when I watched as kid and forgot, I see now with more knowledge about warfare and the meanings of actions , all that makes me loves even more this movie (at least the alien army cof cof)
The helmet of the regent special forces looks like the Doom Slayer's helmet a little bit.
I wish there was a sequel to the movie.
it was failed box office. also humanity would be screwed
I absolutely loved the ending where they used an old WW2 Battleship instead of the boring modern ones
Same
And asking the old veterans to help run it. I just wished they had a scene in the end honoring them.
I still love this film to this day with my mom also cuz the Japanese guy was in midway in to and idk i just love this kind of movie’s
The old guys taking charge definitely was one of, if not, the best part in the movie!
That kind of scene really ups the overall likeability of the whole film.
"Uh, oh! Looks like somebody is about to kiss the donkey!" Man, best line of the movie
I love the regent ships in this movie such badass. Buut their weakness was not harming while humans weren’t a threat
I honestly wish there was a sequel to this. While not the best movie of all time I genuinely love it. The End credits scene shows that they planned one. I hope one day it can see the light of day. And hopefully done well XD.
Also (idk if anyone will actually see this XD)
But did you know they made a video game for this? it actually wasnt that bad in my opinion XD. was one of my first FPS experiences.
@@longshot123 Name of the game?
@@Callum_Summer0972 Battleship (2012 video game)
sequel was canceled it's failure box office but I think is that battleship 2 definitely humanity is screw
I love the regents and their technology and weapons and stories
Reminds me of Enders game. The book. An entire celestial war broke out over miscommunication
Also Todd Alquist being a sailor is so funny to me
Good analysis. Never occurred to me that they came peacefully and were protecting themselves. It makes sense now that you pointed out them not wanting to kill a noncombatant. Makes me want to see it again in a new light.
From breaking into a convenience store getting a chicken burrito into a regent destroyer commander, that's some character improvement
From what I understood in the movie and when you try to compare to what humans would do in the same situation, I think the regents were an exploratory team sent in to investigate the weird signals. When one ship accidentally hits the satellite and crashes, they might have thought of it as an defensive weapon of some sort (remember, they may not understand our technology). Backed by the fact that 3 warships greeted them as they touched down. Yes, the regents might have fired the first shot, but maybe horns were unknown to them and the shockwaves were some sort of communications to them since they are underwater dwellers and the only reason the earth's ships were damaged was because we have a weaker building integrity than their ships (if that blast was really a weapon, they should've used it in the final battle). When the ships started engaging the regents, they came to the conclusion that the planet was hostile, went defensive, and just wanted to get off the planet and maybe the reason why they wanted to get a contact to their world was possibly to ask for any way to lift their ship up to the atmosphere (in earth, we used rockets to propel spaceships into atmosphere. Since we didnt see their ships fly for up to 500m above sea level, it is possible that we have the same take off technology). I'm not sure though, but the possibilities were endless with the movie. Great video by the way!
One of my favorites
17:05 my favorite scenario’s
Scenario 3 *they are simply a communications group being escorted by a security detail to make first contact.* *Their destroyed hub was a means of communicating directly with humanity.* *But the module destroyed on entry the mothership surrounded by a global armada.* *They were in defensive mode.*
Scenario 4 *They’re a mining team remnants of a fractured planet torn apart by war which would explain their burrowing weaponry equipment.* *Of course.* *With their communications module destroyed and a global fleet closing in on their position they also went in defensive mode*. *Their attack on Hawaii was simply to establish communications to call for help.*
I really enjoyed this movie and hope we get a continuation of the story, I want to know more. MORE I say!
Your breakdown was so classic needed and so ture
I've never seen this movie. I like how the alien ships are literally shooting the pegs you use to designate hits and misses.
Fun goofy movie for sure. 10/10 would watch again. As far as the reason why I think the regents came to earth is most likely number 3, but I would add that maybe they were looking for a safe harbor after they blew up their own planet.
Good insight. The attempt at being peaceful fits the best
The "Shredders" remind me of the R.A.P.S. (Rolling/Robotic Anti-Personnel Sentry) from "Call of Duty: Black Ops 3"
Yayyy new vid!! I love your videos man!! Always a good day anytime I see you get a new one up.
Thanks for tuning in!
I think they where fleeing from there home/ planet that was in a civil war and they were the scouts of a bigger fleet too see if they can take refugee on earth but like you said the ships seemed more for mining in water that could also support this theory they could have been used too get resources too build a camp for the fleets arrival or too see if it was a safe environment.
I love you caught the ideas of the comms sat being destroyed. Number 3
Not a bad idea of pointing out the possibility they could have been friendly had better communications been estalished. A good point.
I've been waiting for this for years
Good movie. I even thought that they were hostile without even paying it any real thought. Good break down.👍
Another long video - thank you Niyat 👌
My pleasure!
Damn, That's one of my favourite "special efects" film and I have never thought like this about it
Wow this was posted while I was watching your Everywhere Everything all at once video.
Hello, many thanks for increasing the narration audio. I can hear clearer this time round!
Really love the details of each aspect of the protagonists
One of the movies of all time
One of the few movies my grandmother from my dad’s side took me and my older brother to. I still find it a fun movie.
One of my guilty pleasures.
Finally thanks for doing this movie
I think this movie is underrated. I really do believe if they made a second move, they can go more into possibly having the regents making peace with us. Thats if the reinforcements they send aren't hostile. After all, I'm sure the regents would send reinforcements out after not getting communications back from the first fleet they sent. There is no way they just has a small unit out without having a mark where they are going and without having a backup plan.
But pretty much the moral of the story is that communication is key and as you mentioned the communications at the start went down hill
This movie is a guilty pleasure of mine
25:25
This is the issue with firing warning shots at aliens with an alien culture.
What's to stop the alien from going, "Oh, that human ship missed us entirely. How favorable. Fire back for his aggression."?
Warning shots only work in ship combat when you know for a fact that the other side will stop firing upon you if you stop and honor that arrangement.
Ah real shit, every movie review I watch from “film comics explained” he makes the movie sound dope at even if I didn’t like it when I first seen it! Good good bro💪🏾💪🏾
I’d love to see them make a sequel to this set maybe 10 years after first contact!! With humans having recovered much of the alien technology and doing everything they can to understand and reverse engineer the tech. It would be a great movie if the story is written right!! Like I enjoyed Independence Day resurgence sure the sphere showing up with super advanced tech to give them the fighting edge over the aliens was a bit weird but I was looking forward to the next movie
Great video, loved your intelligent analysis. Thank you for offering something unique 😊 more please 🙏 🙏 🙏
You got it!
Wow, I never looked at it this way before. You made some excellent points as to the motivation of the aliens.
Wow yeah I really turned off my brain for this one, never thinking that the aliens could possibly come in peace. 😂☮
i honestly loved this movie, the feel good moment at the end with all the veterans taking their old ship out to war and not as a parade or a show of history but to fight for the fate of earth! i miss all these types of movies we took them for granted and now not even the marvel movies are worth watching.
Ok.
Thats a detail I didn’t take notice of.
The ranks of them.
This is some brilliant insight to a very basic movie that realistically flumped. But is still quite entertaining by itself.
I always liked how they portrayed the aliens as a varied in behaviour, not some monolithic species where every individual acts and behaves the same. They probably have a sense of honor and a moral compass that prevent them from harming innocent lives for no reason. One of the aliens even going as far as trying to spare the soldier guy with the prosthetic leg when he saw he was unarmed and with a disability.
My film teacher always enjoys comparing movies like these to movies like No Country For Old Men which is always hilarious
I loved this movie! I know I know!!! I never even considered that the aliens could’ve been friendly, thanks for the insight! Great video, and it’s made me reconsider this movie? I’m definitely watching it again with that view, I’ll bet it only gets better!!
This reminds me of the Jerry Pournelle/ Larry Niven novel "Footfall" which was also based on a failure of basic communication.
Hey Niat, great work with this video analysis of the movie. Yeah, I don't think we are ready for alien contact yet. We still need at the very least 75 to 100 years until we are ready to talk and/or meet any intelligent extraterrestrial life in any major capacity. Your videos really deserve to be recognized by the higher ups of our government and scientists so they can see where we should learn not to be so hostile. One more thing, not to sound impatient or insensitive, when do you think you can make that Pokemon Arceus information video? Again, not trying to come off as impatient or insensitive, I just would to know a rough timeframe. Either way, stay safe and keep up the great work.
Brilliant analysis. I noticed that too. Where the aliens didn't go all ham in certain situations. Maybe they, or that particular faction, have some kind of code similar to a Predator where they only kill for sport and would rather a challenge. The alien female (I believe was a female) didn't attack that profesor when she discovered him. Also, if I remember correctly, the Earth sea ships fired first at them or was that a warning shot? Would be good to have a sequeal and show more of the Regent's perspective. They left it open.
Great break down, extremely well done and thought out.
*drifts a ship*
Aliens: WTF?!
Know this movie ranked but I enjoyed it especially the ending. Watching a WW2 battleship take down the main ship was pretty badass. Not sure if it’s stated but how many ly was planet G and I’m guess their ships could go either at or above light speed.
Never saw the movie just the battle scenes and the old retired guys in the old boat was awesome.
That is a very interesting reading on the film. Never thought about it like this.
Very interesting analysis.
Whichever way, I consider it a very underrated movie.
Also loved how they honored the past by having older vets help them save the day
This may make me an outlier but the sheer ridiculousness of the film makes this my comfort movie.
Your analysis is well done!
This came out in an era of alien action flicks. Despite being based off the the board game, they were subtle with the context up until the end.
I always knew that they were trying to hold back and be a peaceful as possible but us being humans we kill anything we don’t understand so I actually did feel a lot of pity and sorrow for the regents cause it seem like they were running out of options for survival, and they hope that they could communicate with us and give us technology probably for land And it would’ve jumped mankind thousands of years scientifically and if this was to happen in the same format, it would most likely happen like in the movie because humans are always shoot first ask questions later, which is really tragic. When you think about it, I do hope if aliens, do show up and they are here in peace That we recognize it before we start a war, that we most likely won’t win.
Also really good job on the description of the show and the aliens and ask for your question I would say the fourth option to develop relations and peace.
That comment near the end got me to thinking of what a sequel could be like
Personally, I think the aliens were trying to invade. The only reason they didn't attack first is because they didn't perceive anyone a threat until fired upon. As you stated, they were superior in many ways.
If they were, pretty sure they would already be done so. It doesn't make sense to crash on a planet, sink three ships, attack a base and bridge and boot up the communications satellite. We saw what the stingrays and mother ships are capable of. They can easily rekt Havroc and the rest just comes to set up things and rebuild.
Maybe they not evil
Rewatched this other day, so looking forward to your deep dive!
This is a fun campy movie I enjoyed! I was stationed in Pearl Harbor USN, 95-98.
The fact that the aliens had no small arms to defend themselves with just hurt me
Actually there is one scene where one of them comes into contact with an alien and see’s they are a world conquering species. Basically it was a war game for the planet.