Kayle is getting closer and closer to Orianna gameplay as an AP burst champion. except Orianna is ranged from the start. It is a bit frustrating, Nerf after nerf for AD and On Hit because of ADC fiesta.
I get get why you'd pref one item set but the champ is largely the same. It's just weaker early game but since nowadays we go to 2-3 items is very common. Ap kayle just has more utitlity later on. It is what it is and she is mostly an ap champion.
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I thought about electrocute as good rune for trading instead of pta, bc u also get stack AP and ult cdr. Fleet may be useless for her in the next patch
Try a First Strike , you can like I prefer Kraken Seal/Mejai Guinso Nash Rabadon But if you prefer Nasht , Rab Lich dark can do this too ... Only use Aprox and first strike as principal (others of your prefer )
6:02 makes me think Liss may have a hidden mechanic with her q that extends the splash when total distance between champs is short enough or between her and the first thing q hits, there's no way it would splash that far back if she cast q from far away right?
Kayle ap has far more surviability than her ad counter part, plus less cdr due to ap items have AH in them. The only thing ad Kayle is good due to Bork abuse or adc meta 😂
worse than electrocute for burst trades. worse than pta for longtrades. Hail of blades scales with damage, vi, pyke, ect. Kayle always buys and her passive provides attackspseed so HoB loses value. try it. you'll see in game that trades are hard to get the value off and you'll notice it less once you have items.
Genuine question: Can Kayle ap first item be Riftmaker into ad assasin better for more survivability in early game than Nashor tooth? I mean with both +Hp and omnivamp she will be harder to kill (unless dive her with 2 or more players) and thus more cs to farm in lane for her 😂
Useless. Omnivamp even won't be stacked to the end of fight. Kayle has ulty for assassins. If u perma have assassin on you so you have bad positioning (except for smth like naafiri and few more). What is more, you lose tempo so much with riftmaker first.
@@UnlimitedStop so not worth it right? How about Zhonya rush then (in ad assasin matchup say Zed or Talon for example) cause assasin have more poke+lvl6 spike better than you and ap Kayle leaning more into burst
@@kyquocthangle4501 Not worth. Think the same with zhonyas. You lose so much tempo and now zhonyas is too expensive. Would be worth if we had stopwatch as before. Yes, their ults have less cd so you have to respect it. Anf with dorans blade nerf I think you can go dshield every game if we talk about mid
You need nashors first on ap or you'll deal no damage. Delaying yourself being a champion is bad cause after 1st item you have to sidelane. You can automatically cancel an assassins all in after 6 and surviving early is relatively easy. if you struggle vs ad assassins, which are the easiest matchup for kayle just go dorans shield second wind + fleet and you'll remove all their poke. unfed assassins can't one shot you before 6 and your ukt counters an all in. The second all in you can prevent by winning with tp advantage. if you really need to itemize for survivability, buy refillable potion and cloth armor. That's as much gold as you should invest. Anything more and you derail the build. then you can zonyas 2nd if your enemies are 4+ ad. Otherwise just build damage and movementspeed. These are way more valuable on kayle than defense.
@@unknownent.7845 it has nothing to do with your rank if you re master your opponent is master to just dodge isnt an solution,her mr is too low first thats a fact second in soloq a weak midlaner is too punishable if you hug to tower they can just roam to make other laner win and you cannot do anything and almost every champ have range advantage which you only can get after 6
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Kayle is getting closer and closer to Orianna gameplay as an AP burst champion. except Orianna is ranged from the start. It is a bit frustrating, Nerf after nerf for AD and On Hit because of ADC fiesta.
Im more of an ad kayle player but now i can only play ap cause of the nerf
I get get why you'd pref one item set but the champ is largely the same. It's just weaker early game but since nowadays we go to 2-3 items is very common. Ap kayle just has more utitlity later on. It is what it is and she is mostly an ap champion.
At least Kayle has the option lol a lot of champs have to just play the nerfed stuff. We can be grateful for that at least
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Coffee does dehydrates you, but the water you make coffee with hydrates you, so it's a net zero win/loss.
Only espresso's are an exception.
Always drink half a liter of water in the morning and drink coffee at least 2 hours after waking to neglect the energy dip at 2pm ish.
i played this some rounds, electrocute kayle ins insane!
I thought about electrocute as good rune for trading instead of pta, bc u also get stack AP and ult cdr. Fleet may be useless for her in the next patch
10:32 Oh shit! He is right! You can stream a playthrough of ME 1-3 if you get too frustrated playing in the off seson.
Bro
I was gonna sleep
Now I gotta try this build 😂
toplane kayle is legit unplayable stridebreaker range is so op they just need to click that
Try a First Strike , you can like
I prefer Kraken Seal/Mejai Guinso Nash Rabadon
But if you prefer Nasht , Rab Lich dark can do this too ... Only use Aprox and first strike as principal (others of your prefer )
holy shit he procced electrocute on Vi's forehead during elder fight
26:18 electrocute didn't proc, Jhin died too fast 😂
This build reminds me of the good old full AP one shot kayle in season 2
It works top
6:02 makes me think Liss may have a hidden mechanic with her q that extends the splash when total distance between champs is short enough or between her and the first thing q hits, there's no way it would splash that far back if she cast q from far away right?
It does extend, it’s like Kayle Q
43:00 is too funny
Finally Kayle is a champ with 2 items, love the build, for me ap Kayle burst is far better than the rest, why would u go ad
Kayle ap has far more surviability than her ad counter part, plus less cdr due to ap items have AH in them. The only thing ad Kayle is good due to Bork abuse or adc meta 😂
Honestly I play her with comet into some matchups top and it works so well for me so that's even more orianna😂
who do you ban as mid kayle?
Aurora
Why not go hail of blades?
worse than electrocute for burst trades. worse than pta for longtrades. Hail of blades scales with damage, vi, pyke, ect. Kayle always buys and her passive provides attackspseed so HoB loses value. try it. you'll see in game that trades are hard to get the value off and you'll notice it less once you have items.
Genuine question: Can Kayle ap first item be Riftmaker into ad assasin better for more survivability in early game than Nashor tooth? I mean with both +Hp and omnivamp she will be harder to kill (unless dive her with 2 or more players) and thus more cs to farm in lane for her 😂
Useless. Omnivamp even won't be stacked to the end of fight. Kayle has ulty for assassins. If u perma have assassin on you so you have bad positioning (except for smth like naafiri and few more).
What is more, you lose tempo so much with riftmaker first.
@@UnlimitedStop so not worth it right? How about Zhonya rush then (in ad assasin matchup say Zed or Talon for example) cause assasin have more poke+lvl6 spike better than you and ap Kayle leaning more into burst
@@kyquocthangle4501 Not worth. Think the same with zhonyas. You lose so much tempo and now zhonyas is too expensive. Would be worth if we had stopwatch as before.
Yes, their ults have less cd so you have to respect it.
Anf with dorans blade nerf I think you can go dshield every game if we talk about mid
You need nashors first on ap or you'll deal no damage. Delaying yourself being a champion is bad cause after 1st item you have to sidelane. You can automatically cancel an assassins all in after 6 and surviving early is relatively easy. if you struggle vs ad assassins, which are the easiest matchup for kayle just go dorans shield second wind + fleet and you'll remove all their poke. unfed assassins can't one shot you before 6 and your ukt counters an all in. The second all in you can prevent by winning with tp advantage. if you really need to itemize for survivability, buy refillable potion and cloth armor. That's as much gold as you should invest. Anything more and you derail the build. then you can zonyas 2nd if your enemies are 4+ ad. Otherwise just build damage and movementspeed. These are way more valuable on kayle than defense.
kayles ultimate should have no mana costs
No mana cost in Lv. 16
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yeah is broken goob job, finally a good build, i just carry with 18/5/17
kann man auch Electro gegen bruiser verwenden?
Ne würde ich nicht machen
@43:00 idk if ppl are allowed to say that.
Why not? It’s obviously a joke
Idk why people play mid kayle her mr is just to low and everyone can oneshot her in laning phase
kayle gets one shot by everyone, midlane guarantees scaling if u dont play like a silver and you can get more help than when playing top
@@unknownent.7845 it has nothing to do with your rank if you re master your opponent is master to just dodge isnt an solution,her mr is too low first thats a fact second in soloq a weak midlaner is too punishable if you hug to tower they can just roam to make other laner win and you cannot do anything and almost every champ have range advantage which you only can get after 6
And not to mention any mage can get 37 magic penetration with 3 items while u get 44 mr at lvl 18 if you go defansive items u cannot do damage
@@commenafra3478 the highest rank challenger kayle otp plays mid brother she is plenty fine there
i mean dodging skillshots with mobility boots on kayle for 15 minutes got me to diamond once so idk what ur talking about.
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