As a musician and Hellenic enthusiast, this video absolutely blows my mind. The idea that the music and culture from so very long ago can survive and we now can listen to snatches of what they created. Communication from distant times just gives me goosebumps *every* time.
Imagining all the music systems that human kind have developed at different times and different societies throughout the world is really inspiring. The songs we hear today are a mere fraction of what music really is.
Wild and rugged music, like the Greek terrain, would have been mesmerizing in a firelit amphitheatre under the stars....No wonder ancient Greek culture conquered the world
thanks for sharing Centuries ago, my ancestors came to these lands of South America, but there is something as deep as unknown that wakes up and flourished in some corner of this uprooted eurodescendant heart with the hiper legendary and real melody that is born from Aulos....
You guys deserve all the credit on this. I say this as someone currently studying classical history. This work is absolutely invaluable to the study of the past. Can't wait to see what you find out next.
@Cat People documentarys Oh yes!! Πολύ καλά τα λέει φιλαράκο..η φλογέρα που λές είναι αλβανική λέξη στα ελληνικά η σωστή λέξη για την φλογέρα είναι σύριγξ. Πολυκάλαμος σύριγξ η αυλός του Πάνα είναι αυτό που παίζουν κυρίως οι Ινδιάνοι! Το συγκεκριμένο πνευστό ονομάζεται Δίαυλος,δύο αυλοί μαζί δηλαδή.Ο Δίαυλος ήταν το αγαπημένο πνευστό των αρχαίων Ελλήνων. Σήμερα στην Ελλάδα οι νεοέλληνες ασχολούνται και ακούν κυρίως τσιγγάνικη και σκυλάδικη μουσική. Μπράβο στους ξένους κυρίως στα βόρεια αδέρφια μας που ενδιαφέρονται και αναδεικνύουν την αρχαία μουσική..Χαιρετίσματα στο ωραίo καρπενήσι!
@Cat People documentarys το "υ" στην αρχαιοτητα προφεροταν "ου". Οι Μικρασιατες ειχαν διατηρησει στην Ιωνια την αρχαια προφορα και ελεγαν πχ αουτος αντι για αυτος.
@Cat People documentarys κοιταξε το λημμα "αουτος" σε οποιοδηποτε λεξικο. Οι διφθογγοι προφερονταν διαφορετικα απο οτι τωρα. Ειναι κατι που το μαθαινει οποιοσδηποτε πρωτοετης φιλολογιας/γλωσσολογιας. Ειναι η λεγομενη ερασμιακη προφορα που μπορει μεν να μας ακουγεται δυσηχη αλλα ειναι δοκιμη και ιστορικα ακριβης. Ηχητικο αποσπασμα απο Μικρασιατη να ομιλει δεν εχω. Επισης αποκαλεις μπουφο εναν ανθρωπο που ασχολειται πολυ περισσοτερο με την αρχαια Ελλαδα απο οτι η πλειοψηφια των συμπολιτων μας (και κανεις πολλα ορθογραφικα λαθη για καποιον που διαμαρτυρεται για την προφορα ενος ξενου)
Geo Mpon νομιζω ότι ο τύπος πρέπει να ακούσει ασκαυλο όπως διασώζεται στη κρητη διπλή μαντουρα και φθιαμπολι για να καταλάβει ότι η μουσική διασώζεται ακόμα δεν έχει καμία σχεση με κάτι Διονυσιακό
It's very drone-like. Reminds me of Bulgarian music. It's also hard to imagine playing 2 wind instruments at once used to be normal, I wonder if it was like a wishbone where it was one instrument that split in half down the middle. There must've been a lot of life-learned craftsmanship involved in performance that was forgotten with time as well.
That sounds worse than a chorus of schoolkids with recorders, but it is really awesome how you did the whole reconstruction and interpretation. And in spite of my recorder comment, this is really, really amazing. I am jaw broke.
If I well understood the octave is divided into 5 equal distant tones of about 172 Cents, so it is more or less the georgian tone system (untill the 20th century) and very similar to balinesian slendro scale. is this correct?
Out of curiosity, Pydna would be in ancient Μacedonia, whose people use one type of scale. The papyrus was found where, and what scale and instruments did they use? Was the papyrus melody written for aulos, vocals, harp? What was the speed? Was it played in staccato or legato... any other instruments to go with it? Very interested to know if there’s any surviving characteristics of the music today.
Instead of wrongly speculating, pay attention to the video and read the description, please. Here is the papyrus fragment : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katolophyromai
Was there a recording made in Cyprus (announced at the beginning)? Where Aulos playing also perfomed in orchestra, played several together? Best regards from Vienna.
I'm not an expert on the topic, but do know some things about it, and I would say the Catholic Church didn't remove them so much as they tried to keep them out of liturgical chant. That is, they just didn't allow them in church music but the instruments and frequencies continued being used in various ways in the secular, 'folk' or popular musics of various regions. As teh Church expanded however, in many regions Church officials would complain of how, for one example in Lombardy I believe, in the 10th century or so, a Church official complained of how the local choirs sang the Mass by "howling in [intervals of] seconds"--possibly in a way that polyphonic music is still sung in nearby places like Istria in Croatia. So apparently local styles of music, with 'those frequencies' in them, were being introduced into regional chant practices. Under Charlemagne, who wanted to standardize chant singing, St. Gregory went to all the churches and tried to make them all sing what we call Gregorian chant and eliminate regional variations. This didn't work that well though, and many musicologists now think that the continued infiltration of regional musics using 'those frequencies' were what made the Church eventually start allowing the use of polyphony in liturgical singing around the 9th-11th centuries. Interesting to note too how in the Republic of Georgia, which had its own Church not subject to the Catholic tradition, they still sang using modified heptatonic equidistant scales, modified note by note sort of like Barnaby does on his aulos, into the early 20th century. I'm not expert on tht either but that's what recent Georgian music scholarship has been researching for a while now.
@@almishti thank you for this, all so interesting to learn about. As Nikolov Tesla says ' everything is energy, frequency and vibration' , then musical frequency is key to frequency out put... and so musical keys...🤔 🎶🎵🙏🕊💖🕊🙏
The mirror seems to be curved, you can see the door in the background looking a bit distorted and why should there be a camera man at all? It's just a camera mounted onto something, it's not that big.
Study Byzantin music in order to understand how this instrument has to be played also listen to askaulos mantoura thiamboli and you will understand what you have to approach Ancient Greek music is still alive in the melodies of the shepherds
Surely an academic of this guy’s high level in the field of his specialisation would have travelled through some rural areas of Greece that have particular folkloric significance including Crete and been briefed on things like you have mentioned. He can teach both Greeks and the whole world some worthy things about Ancient Greek music, but there is a fine line between people like this exhibiting apparent exciting new discoveries about the ancient world which are as on point as anyone could get, and such a person actually teaching an off point different angle to what has some people through generation after generation, after generation, after generation to the next degree of after generation in their true born lives who have a more sound knowledge (by the way I’m not an example), but it’s true for a handful of Greek people in some parts of Greece and even some descendants of these places in the Greek diaspora. Is there not a piece of some regional traditional Greek reed instruments that is called Avlos? Indicating that there are components of instruments that descend from the Aulos with a straight lineage in the Greek scope of the modern times. Given the Au pronunciation in respectable Greek of the respective time periods changed to Af or Av depending on what word roughly around 200s AD.
I made my first auloses after past life memory regression, and know about the banishment from the planet around 500 B.C. Have you found any references about predictions auloses will return as the most popular instruments on the planet?
Okay but now play it how it was actually supposed to be - meaning it is a 'duet' singing the same continuous melody... the effect would be rather stunning with the voice and instrument in the same octave etc sort of how in modern rock some times the guitar will echo the lyrical melody ... how come you have no singer to help you ?
As a musician and Hellenic enthusiast, this video absolutely blows my mind. The idea that the music and culture from so very long ago can survive and we now can listen to snatches of what they created. Communication from distant times just gives me goosebumps *every* time.
Yeah, true. And this really is a DISTANT time. Medieval music is amazing for example. But this is so much older...
Imagining all the music systems that human kind have developed at different times and different societies throughout the world is really inspiring. The songs we hear today are a mere fraction of what music really is.
Quite interesting. Would love to see more ancient instruments recovered and reconstructed like this.
Peter Pringle channel has ancient music incl. Sumerian poem about Gilgamesh
@@sohara.... thanks, was looking for this also. :D
When you play I see in my vision a fun party after a harvest
Many smiles and free flowing wine!
Greetings from Makedonia 🇬🇷🏛️📖
Yasu 🙂
Wild and rugged music, like the Greek terrain, would have been mesmerizing in a firelit amphitheatre under the stars....No wonder ancient Greek culture conquered the world
Didn't conquer Asia. Or America. Or the Pacific.
thanks for sharing
Centuries ago, my ancestors came to these lands of South America, but there is something as deep as unknown that wakes up and flourished in some corner of this uprooted eurodescendant heart with the hiper legendary and real melody that is born from Aulos....
Music is passion, music is life.
You guys deserve all the credit on this. I say this as someone currently studying classical history. This work is absolutely invaluable to the study of the past. Can't wait to see what you find out next.
Fantastic! Thank you for this!Warm greetings from Macedonia, Greece!
Fantastic work! Congratulations to everyone involved. Cheers from Brasil :)
This is awesome! Thank you for sharing and putting so much into this.
Thank you for making this marvelous work available!
Now that's what I call science in action.
greetings from pydna!!!
@Cat People documentarys Oh yes!! Πολύ καλά τα λέει φιλαράκο..η φλογέρα που λές είναι αλβανική λέξη στα ελληνικά η σωστή λέξη για την φλογέρα είναι σύριγξ. Πολυκάλαμος σύριγξ η αυλός του Πάνα είναι αυτό που παίζουν κυρίως οι Ινδιάνοι! Το συγκεκριμένο πνευστό ονομάζεται Δίαυλος,δύο αυλοί μαζί δηλαδή.Ο Δίαυλος ήταν το αγαπημένο πνευστό των αρχαίων Ελλήνων. Σήμερα στην Ελλάδα οι νεοέλληνες ασχολούνται και ακούν κυρίως τσιγγάνικη και σκυλάδικη μουσική. Μπράβο στους ξένους κυρίως στα βόρεια αδέρφια μας που ενδιαφέρονται και αναδεικνύουν την αρχαία μουσική..Χαιρετίσματα στο ωραίo καρπενήσι!
Μπράβο φίλε μου. Καλά τα λες. Η αγραμματοσύνη σήμερα είναι διάχυτη στην ελληνική κοινωνία.
@Cat People documentarys το "υ" στην αρχαιοτητα προφεροταν "ου". Οι Μικρασιατες ειχαν διατηρησει στην Ιωνια την αρχαια προφορα και ελεγαν πχ αουτος αντι για αυτος.
@Cat People documentarys κοιταξε το λημμα "αουτος" σε οποιοδηποτε λεξικο. Οι διφθογγοι προφερονταν διαφορετικα απο οτι τωρα. Ειναι κατι που το μαθαινει οποιοσδηποτε πρωτοετης φιλολογιας/γλωσσολογιας. Ειναι η λεγομενη ερασμιακη προφορα που μπορει μεν να μας ακουγεται δυσηχη αλλα ειναι δοκιμη και ιστορικα ακριβης. Ηχητικο αποσπασμα απο Μικρασιατη να ομιλει δεν εχω. Επισης αποκαλεις μπουφο εναν ανθρωπο που ασχολειται πολυ περισσοτερο με την αρχαια Ελλαδα απο οτι η πλειοψηφια των συμπολιτων μας (και κανεις πολλα ορθογραφικα λαθη για καποιον που διαμαρτυρεται για την προφορα ενος ξενου)
Geo Mpon νομιζω ότι ο τύπος πρέπει να ακούσει ασκαυλο όπως διασώζεται στη κρητη
διπλή μαντουρα και φθιαμπολι
για να καταλάβει ότι η μουσική διασώζεται ακόμα
δεν έχει καμία σχεση με κάτι Διονυσιακό
Amazing....thanks for reviving greek ancient music. You are greek now ;)
Thanks. Excellent video.
Thank you.
Clearly this was the precursor to what became the first Grecian bagpipes
The Orestes excerpt could be used in a rave, and it could be completely missed! It's crazy how modern it sounds.
I played it for my ferrets after a storm
It's very drone-like. Reminds me of Bulgarian music. It's also hard to imagine playing 2 wind instruments at once used to be normal, I wonder if it was like a wishbone where it was one instrument that split in half down the middle. There must've been a lot of life-learned craftsmanship involved in performance that was forgotten with time as well.
This is really an amzing work you are doing!
Maybe it's my speakers, but does this almost sound like 8 bit music? Those pipes sound amazing.
PAN the great is awaking and coming back.
How do you tongue a single reed at a time!!! I’ll need to try it at home! This is amazing though
Sounds great mate
That sounds worse than a chorus of schoolkids with recorders, but it is really awesome how you did the whole reconstruction and interpretation. And in spite of my recorder comment, this is really, really amazing. I am jaw broke.
Thank you. The most beautiful part is in the 12th minute.
Lol
Brilliant
"When you got two pipes in your mouth vibrating, it's a glorious effect." 😭😂
It's a dorky sound, I like it. No wonder fauns are weird. That said, I like that they were able to harmonize with flutes
Also, some evil part of my mind wants to remix this with modern music beats cause that bit at the beginning has such a banging rhythm.
How could the find out the exact pitch of the original pipe? Isn't it aslo influenced by the mouthpiece the original of which did nort survive?
can anyone help me get to an aulos? i really would love to own one to play on
I now have the "la de-dee-da da; la de-dee-da da, la Da Duh duh Duuuh" part stuck in my head haha
If I well understood the octave is divided into 5 equal distant tones of about 172 Cents, so it is more or less the georgian tone system (untill the 20th century) and very similar to balinesian slendro scale. is this correct?
Which bones are used to make these reeds?
Where to buy a basic set of aulos? Would love to explore this instrument.
me to
3D printable file for Louvre model at Thingiverse
Robin Howell of Toronto makes aulos
How come allot of the Aulos players depicted have their pinky fingers on the bottom? Is there a hole down there?
You go boy!
❤
what quartertone? id love to know the mathematical details of the tuning of this double flute.
I really want an aulos to play
Could another be made?
You can buy them from makers but theyre very expensive
The ancients loved kazoos
Lol shame on you 😂
I'm surprised Armand hasn't commented on this video.
excellent educating video and as usual the brain farts in the comments (i am from Pydna by the way)
Incrível
Out of curiosity, Pydna would be in ancient Μacedonia, whose people use one type of scale. The papyrus was found where, and what scale and instruments did they use? Was the papyrus melody written for aulos, vocals, harp? What was the speed? Was it played in staccato or legato... any other instruments to go with it? Very interested to know if there’s any surviving characteristics of the music today.
Instead of wrongly speculating, pay attention to the video and read the description, please. Here is the papyrus fragment : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katolophyromai
I'm confused. How are you playing a trichord if only two simultaneous notes can be played at a time?
Are you referring to the resonance from the previous notes carrying over and bouncing back and forth?
Some guy, 2500 years ago: *buys two reed flutes* "Check it out! I invented a new instrument!"
Was there a recording made in Cyprus (announced at the beginning)? Where Aulos playing also perfomed in orchestra, played several together? Best regards from Vienna.
Is it true the Catholic Church removed alot of these instruments and abundant musical frequencies?
I'm not an expert on the topic, but do know some things about it, and I would say the Catholic Church didn't remove them so much as they tried to keep them out of liturgical chant. That is, they just didn't allow them in church music but the instruments and frequencies continued being used in various ways in the secular, 'folk' or popular musics of various regions. As teh Church expanded however, in many regions Church officials would complain of how, for one example in Lombardy I believe, in the 10th century or so, a Church official complained of how the local choirs sang the Mass by "howling in [intervals of] seconds"--possibly in a way that polyphonic music is still sung in nearby places like Istria in Croatia. So apparently local styles of music, with 'those frequencies' in them, were being introduced into regional chant practices. Under Charlemagne, who wanted to standardize chant singing, St. Gregory went to all the churches and tried to make them all sing what we call Gregorian chant and eliminate regional variations. This didn't work that well though, and many musicologists now think that the continued infiltration of regional musics using 'those frequencies' were what made the Church eventually start allowing the use of polyphony in liturgical singing around the 9th-11th centuries.
Interesting to note too how in the Republic of Georgia, which had its own Church not subject to the Catholic tradition, they still sang using modified heptatonic equidistant scales, modified note by note sort of like Barnaby does on his aulos, into the early 20th century. I'm not expert on tht either but that's what recent Georgian music scholarship has been researching for a while now.
@@almishti thank you for this, all so interesting to learn about. As Nikolov Tesla says ' everything is energy, frequency and vibration' , then musical frequency is key to frequency out put... and so musical keys...🤔 🎶🎵🙏🕊💖🕊🙏
It's awesome! Though I'm happy it evolved, it kinda sound a little silly ^^
Nice
Why cant i see the camera and cameraman in the mirror
I suspect that this guy is not normal haha
The mirror seems to be curved, you can see the door in the background looking a bit distorted and why should there be a camera man at all? It's just a camera mounted onto something, it's not that big.
Study Byzantin music in order to understand how this instrument has to be played
also listen to askaulos mantoura thiamboli
and you will understand what you have to approach
Ancient Greek music is still alive in the melodies of the shepherds
Surely an academic of this guy’s high level in the field of his specialisation would have travelled through some rural areas of Greece that have particular folkloric significance including Crete and been briefed on things like you have mentioned. He can teach both Greeks and the whole world some worthy things about Ancient Greek music, but there is a fine line between people like this exhibiting apparent exciting new discoveries about the ancient world which are as on point as anyone could get, and such a person actually teaching an off point different angle to what has some people through generation after generation, after generation, after generation to the next degree of after generation in their true born lives who have a more sound knowledge (by the way I’m not an example), but it’s true for a handful of Greek people in some parts of Greece and even some descendants of these places in the Greek diaspora.
Is there not a piece of some regional traditional Greek reed instruments that is called Avlos? Indicating that there are components of instruments that descend from the Aulos with a straight lineage in the Greek scope of the modern times. Given the Au pronunciation in respectable Greek of the respective time periods changed to Af or Av depending on what word roughly around 200s AD.
This instrument seems to me very difficult to play.
wonderfull! came back for that interference :)
🇬🇷❤️🇬🇷Search about a modern greek musician Kleopas ,you will love him
I made my first auloses after past life memory regression, and know about the banishment from the planet around 500 B.C. Have you found any references about predictions auloses will return as the most popular instruments on the planet?
Same.
same
you made an aulos? please tell me how... i need one to make music with, i will buy it from you if you can make them
@@Roensmusic 3D printable file for Louvre model at Thingiverse
Would you perhaps like to elaborate on that statement? It sounds very interesting
I was always taught that they don't use the two auloi to play two different notes at once, just to make it louder...
Its "denon ponon"
Means terrible pain
7:27
Sounds like dvojnica in Croatia
To be honest, this guy is a perfect copy of Sheldon Cooper (TBBT) but now in Music version instead of science.
Don't you want to throw away the instrument when you see yourself playing it in the mirror?
hahaha, i see what you did there, very nice 😂
Oh god!!!! It's a folk rock😂
Sounds like 16bit
Thank you, very much, but I can't resist
Knock knock
Who's there
Euripedes
Euripedes who
Euripedes pants
Eumenides pants
For your own sake I hope you're not older than 6, "Eupisindepants"
Okay but now play it how it was actually supposed to be - meaning it is a 'duet' singing the same continuous melody... the effect would be rather stunning with the voice and instrument in the same octave etc sort of how in modern rock some times the guitar will echo the lyrical melody ... how come you have no singer to help you ?
I wonder who wrote "ancient greek" music for this game ruclips.net/video/5cDVoP8Tcd4/видео.html
Okay, Barnaby... take a deep breath... try not to chew up the scenery.
LOL
You started playing the chorus from Orestes..... But then I saw a weasel