Great video, slick demo and well explained, justifying the nuances, which is good to hear. So many different ways to approach this rescue which makes very interesting. The first scenario is also what I would do. Regarding the second, my personal preference is to manoeuvre into 4 points with my backups above the casualty's working line attachments and my descenders below the casualty's backups. Once I get the casualty onto me, I have 2 descenders so i can go either direction and I'll be above the casualty. I prefer that because it's conventional for casualty management. Great work, I'll be watching more!
Nice one Simon! Yeah we wanted to mix it up for this one as we essentially demonstrate the method you describe in the Large Re-anchor rescue video! For both of those rescues it's handy to have as many possible tools in your arsenal as it can be such a different situation depending on environment and where your casualty is situated!
Thank you so much! Glad you're stoked on them hopefully we'll get some more out for you soon!! Let us know if there's anything specific you'd like to see!
Well done and explained, being below just seems a little awkward to me, however, this is a real scenario that should be practiced, or at least seen once. Thank you, Jim.
Agreed! It's definitely not ideal, but in a pinch to save time and escape the other side it's better than committing all the way to the opposite side. Proper planning should eliminate the need for that one! Thanks for your comments always appreciated!! (:
I like the fresh approch to this delema. I was taught and shown a different way but just like any rope job or casual adventure caving/ climbing there's always multiple ways to do something.
I personally understand that this is a scenario, and the purpose is to demonstrate what are all the steps by step, proper way to perform this, but it becomes way more tricky in real life scenario. You should make real life scenario as well. When the victim is 200' up the ropes and all ropes are dirty or the same colors, you can't tell from the ground which rope to climb. There could be obstruction, fog etc.. every case are different. I noticed a pattern, every company offering instructional video are only focusing on the extreme basic functions. Nothing is tangle, there's no tools or equipment attach anywhere. It would be nice to have different variations. I'm objectively offering a point of view for a background of a worker at industrial sites. Anyhow, good job on the video.
Thanks for the comment! There's a lot to unpack here. Training providers are here to show foundational skills that when mastered can be applied in different situations on site. This is where planning and management should take over. If you're 200' below a casualty mid rope to rope transfer, hopefully the consideration for rescue is not to climb up from the ground. This is also why we talk about rope management very heavily with level 1s. It's not just to make the maneuvers themselves easier, but to ensure that rescue can be prompt and clean. It is the responsibility of operating companies and Level 3 technicians to plan and manage their sites accordingly. I hear from a lot of people that the training doesn't cover enough of what you encounter on site; this is why we build these training centres with different structure types, but they are all micro versions of what you encounter out in the world. The responsibility of training providers is to build foundational skills and muscle memory; we can't be responsible for your job plans and rescue plans in unique sites and environments. We do our best to offer different methods and perspectives, but your training needs to continue on sites, between re-certifications, and for each individual job. If you have concerns on site you can always reach out to training providers for tips and tricks and ideas for prompt rescue, but as far as instructional videos go, it is very difficult to create every tangled scenario and demonstrate clear methods for worst case situations (as you say, they won't apply in every situation). Use your foundational skills and brain power to come up with good access methods and prompt rescue plans. Stay safe out there and feel free to reach out with any specific issues you're running into on site. We love questions and helping people design the best systems while they're out there! Hope this helps!
Great video, slick demo and well explained, justifying the nuances, which is good to hear.
So many different ways to approach this rescue which makes very interesting. The first scenario is also what I would do. Regarding the second, my personal preference is to manoeuvre into 4 points with my backups above the casualty's working line attachments and my descenders below the casualty's backups. Once I get the casualty onto me, I have 2 descenders so i can go either direction and I'll be above the casualty. I prefer that because it's conventional for casualty management.
Great work, I'll be watching more!
Nice one Simon! Yeah we wanted to mix it up for this one as we essentially demonstrate the method you describe in the Large Re-anchor rescue video! For both of those rescues it's handy to have as many possible tools in your arsenal as it can be such a different situation depending on environment and where your casualty is situated!
You're a beast man, I'm so thankful for those unbelievable videos, I'm your fan 💪💪🙋
Thank you so much! Glad you're stoked on them hopefully we'll get some more out for you soon!! Let us know if there's anything specific you'd like to see!
@@Pacificropes every vertical activity is almost infinite; thanks for answering 🪢
Well done and explained, being below just seems a little awkward to me, however, this is a real scenario that should be practiced, or at least seen once. Thank you, Jim.
Agreed! It's definitely not ideal, but in a pinch to save time and escape the other side it's better than committing all the way to the opposite side. Proper planning should eliminate the need for that one! Thanks for your comments always appreciated!! (:
@@Pacificropes The more scenarios a person has practiced, the better equipped they will be, to prevent this.
Great job, the way you both get to safety on solid ground is the right way. As a FD rope rescue tech, keep up great work.
I like the fresh approch to this delema. I was taught and shown a different way but just like any rope job or casual adventure caving/ climbing there's always multiple ways to do something.
Yes there is!
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Great instructional but please give your "victim"/ volunteer a neckbrace or c-spine collar. It was painful and distracting watching him suffer.
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good note thanks buddy.
@@Pacificropes Pacific Rope BYO program hahaha
I personally understand that this is a scenario, and the purpose is to demonstrate what are all the steps by step, proper way to perform this, but it becomes way more tricky in real life scenario. You should make real life scenario as well. When the victim is 200' up the ropes and all ropes are dirty or the same colors, you can't tell from the ground which rope to climb. There could be obstruction, fog etc.. every case are different. I noticed a pattern, every company offering instructional video are only focusing on the extreme basic functions. Nothing is tangle, there's no tools or equipment attach anywhere. It would be nice to have different variations. I'm objectively offering a point of view for a background of a worker at industrial sites.
Anyhow, good job on the video.
Thanks for the comment! There's a lot to unpack here. Training providers are here to show foundational skills that when mastered can be applied in different situations on site.
This is where planning and management should take over. If you're 200' below a casualty mid rope to rope transfer, hopefully the consideration for rescue is not to climb up from the ground.
This is also why we talk about rope management very heavily with level 1s. It's not just to make the maneuvers themselves easier, but to ensure that rescue can be prompt and clean. It is the responsibility of operating companies and Level 3 technicians to plan and manage their sites accordingly. I hear from a lot of people that the training doesn't cover enough of what you encounter on site; this is why we build these training centres with different structure types, but they are all micro versions of what you encounter out in the world. The responsibility of training providers is to build foundational skills and muscle memory; we can't be responsible for your job plans and rescue plans in unique sites and environments. We do our best to offer different methods and perspectives, but your training needs to continue on sites, between re-certifications, and for each individual job. If you have concerns on site you can always reach out to training providers for tips and tricks and ideas for prompt rescue, but as far as instructional videos go, it is very difficult to create every tangled scenario and demonstrate clear methods for worst case situations (as you say, they won't apply in every situation).
Use your foundational skills and brain power to come up with good access methods and prompt rescue plans.
Stay safe out there and feel free to reach out with any specific issues you're running into on site. We love questions and helping people design the best systems while they're out there! Hope this helps!