I'm thinking Pallbearer could be a good next band to listen to as well. Judson likes his 90's rock, and the vocals of Pallbearer remind me strongly of Layne Staley.
'Money' is in 7/4. 'Manic Depression' is in 3/4 (Jimi Hendrix). 'Textures' by Cynic starts off in 6/8. The underwatwler theme from Super Mario Bros. (NES) is a pure waltz in 3/4. I use those songs as rhythmic reference points. I feel like Judson would dig Om, High On Fire, and YOB. Om is a bass-heavy project by Paul Cisneros, the bassist/singer for Sleep. High On Fire is Matt Pike's metal group (guitarist from Sleep). YOB is a fanastic experimental stoner/psychedelic/doom group from a bit further up north in Oregon. I don't want to spoil much other than to say those groups probably showcase what Judson is looking for.
That was a fun one! Stoner metal is indeed a ride, I love the changing time signatures, and letting the music sink. For something more recent whenever you come back to this, I'd suggest Monolord - The Last Leaf!
Yes! Sleep! It be awesome if you did some electric wizard soon! I suggest the first song on the “come my fanatics”, “return trip”. Thank you! You guys are awesome.
That was awesome! Felt kinda blues-y to me at times, super cool. I’m in the process of learning some music theory fundamentals, so I appreciate you pointing out the use of diminished and augmented notes, it’s interesting and helps develop my ear.
There's a band from Belgium called Gnome that does a fun take on modern doom, and they have absolutely hilarious videos. They're very much tongue-in-cheeck, so it could be fun to feature them on the channel (Wenceslas is a good one).
That's a really nice new doom suggestion since they've dropped new album And honestly would be a great pick from even 2012s album (but maybe it's too much for the soul)
I was in a shity mood and this reaction made me laugh and got me ready for my day. I'm a musician and I loved how Judson got on his piano and started playing the track as soon as it ended. Dopesmoker next for sure.
Great reaction! "Sleep's Holy Mountain" is a masterpiece! Doom metal is addictive! There are several sacred bands like Sleep: Candlemass, Saint Vitus, Pentagram, Cathedral (mainly first LP "Forest of Equilibrium" and EP "Soul Sacrifice"), Trouble, Electric Wizard, Cianide ("The Dying Truth" and "A Descent into Hell" albums), Asphyx ("The Rack" and "Last One on Earth" albums), Witchfinder General, Winter, Bethlehem ("Dark Metal" album), Samael ("Worship Him" album), Burzum ("Burzum" to "Filosofem"), Burning Witch, Goatsnake, Count Raven, Dawn of Winter ("The Peaceful Dead" album), Evoken ("Quietus" album), Esoteric, The Wounded Kings, Cirith Ungol, Nightstick, Paradise Lost ("Gothic" album), Solitude Aeturnus, The Obsessed, Crowbar, Kyuss, 5ive, Sons of Otis, Iron Man (the band), Black Sabbath, Spectral Voice, Rippikoulu, Cavurn, Disembowelment, Warhorse, Sleep, High on Fire ("The Art of Self Defense" album), Earthride, Acid King, etc...
Love that Judson digs doom. Orange Goblin's Into the Arms of Morpheus or Heavy lies the Crown would be a great new stoner/doom listen as well! But for the evil stuff, Bathsheba is one of my all time my favourite doom, but just music in general
on The Ethereal Mirror this is another voice he will definitely not forget. The one the only, Lee Dorrian! Super talented signer who has fun and doesn't take himself seriously.
i do believe, if i haven't dreamed it up, that iommi said about sleep covering one of sabbath's songs that sleep is one of the few bands who understood what they were about... or something about those lines. by the way if you want new doom check out castle rat.
Oh man...getting into Sleep!?! You should have him listen to Graveyard Richard! Oh the sludge!! Gotta love Sleep🖤 I love that doom makes you so happy Judson, its my favorite 😊
Sleep! Yes!! Thank you. Something off the Sciences would fill Judson's request. Sonic Titan, Antarcticans Thawed, or The Botanist. Leagues Beneath. Great to see Judson moved by stoner doom. It's blues based awesomeness.
Electric Wizard also seems like a Good Choice for more Doom, Om is also great the eastern and Orthodox religious influences make it really interesting. I would personally also love to see some Eyehategod or Acid Bath.
7/4..............and I was hearing similarities to Money as well J. Money/Helmet......haha. Good tune tho! Never heard them before, but Ill be checking them out! Rock on gentlemen!!! \m/
Greaticus Measuricus, i feel everyone gonna recommend the usuals, Om, Electric Wizard, Witchfinder General, etc. all classics, all good, but overplayed show him Humulus by Humulus Stoned Jesus (i like electric mistress and I'm The Mountain) Maha Sohona Witches of Mars by Kal-El literally anything by Uncle Acid Even Dagger Dragger by Castle Rat (since he wants to hear whats new)
If you're looking for good newer doom, you should check out Khemmis "The Bereaved." It's about going one toke over the line, hitting your head on a coffee table, and grappling with eternity while you struggle to make it back to reality. Epicus with a capital E. Also Red Fang "Wires" 'cause the video is awesome.
Good morning guys. Don't know the piano piece but sounds familiar. Sleep is a great doom/sludge band and a huge fan of shirtless Matt Pike Maybe a High On Fire song would be applicable...
@@Greatmeasures Great reaction! "Sleep's Holy Mountain" is a masterpiece! Doom metal is addictive! There are several sacred bands like Sleep: Candlemass, Saint Vitus, Pentagram, Cathedral (mainly first LP "Forest of Equilibrium" and EP "Soul Sacrifice"), Trouble, Electric Wizard, Cianide ("The Dying Truth" and "A Descent into Hell" albums), Asphyx ("The Rack" and "Last One on Earth" albums), Witchfinder General, Winter, Bethlehem ("Dark Metal" album), Samael ("Worship Him" album), Burzum ("Burzum" to "Filosofem"), Burning Witch, Goatsnake, Count Raven, Dawn of Winter ("The Peaceful Dead" album), Evoken ("Quietus" album), Esoteric, The Wounded Kings, Cirith Ungol, Nightstick, Paradise Lost ("Gothic" album), Solitude Aeturnus, The Obsessed, Crowbar, Kyuss, 5ive, Sons of Otis, Iron Man (the band), Black Sabbath, Spectral Voice, Rippikoulu, Cavurn, Disembowelment, Warhorse, Sleep, High on Fire ("The Art of Self Defense" album), Earthride, Acid King, etc...
Can you listen to some Elder? Early albums are kinda similar to Sleep in a way. Late albums are still amazing stoner, but the sound shifts more to psychedelic stuff
My favorite doom / stoner bands Acid Mammoth Windhand Monolord Green Lung Witch Dopelord The Sword 1782 Bongzilla Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats Weedeater High on Fire Acid King
Not necessarily all that new but YOB would be a good reaction. Bongripper would also be cool. Or some of the older stuff from BORIS. that would be the bees knees!
The cartoon snore, come on 🤣 I started playing bass well, well into my 20s as my first instrument with not much prior experience. As a music geek my taste was fairly eclectic by then, so my inspiration for learning and playing came from bands like Sleep, Weedeater, Kyuss, Electric Wizard, Colour Haze, Yawning Man. This stuff is extremely my shit, as it were. Excited to see you dig deeper! Some fresh-out-the-oven Doom suggestions: "Remains" by Bongripper ("Empty", 2024) "Bog Walker" by Acacia Strain ("Failure Will Follow", 2023) "New Rites" by Sumac ("The Healer", 2024) "Tunnel" by Bog Monkey ("Hollow", 2023) "Leeched" by Ufomammut ("Hidden", 2024) Bongripper is just a solid-ass band; formed well after 9/11, you'll be happy to know. The Acacia Strain song captures the contemporary Doom vibe very well imo, while the band's recent releases as a whole are tough to pin down style-wise. Sumac's music is a fusion of different heavy styles as well; most "progressive" song on this list. Bog Monkey has a quicker pace and sounds just as dirty as the name. Ufomammut... well let's they also sound like their name lol.
You want some "post trump presidency doom" huh? I love Acid Mammoth. They have a new album but i suggest the opening track "Them!" from the 2020 album Under Acid Hoof. Good stuff!
A stoner doom classic indeed. But Judson shouldn't greedy. Wanting to see how a genre evolved, and then saying he doesn't want to experience the evolution of it? Pfff! Give him something more recent, then go back to show the conventional chronological progression of the genre and it's branches. As for a more recent song (by maybe not a recent band however, although masters of it) may I suggest "Ravenghast" or "Beneath Broken Earth" by Paradise Lost?
ok we got the baby Sleep stuff out of the way now, perhaps Return Trip (from Come, My Fanatics) by Electric Wizard is the culmnation of this style, worth experiencing that terrible negativity at least once in life. I prefer latter Sleep material when they become even more monolithic and uninterested in short-form, but this is still cool, it's more sabbathy, connecting to the source. So a bit of history, this isn't a doom band and it doesn't come from heavy metal. These were punks and hardcore kids that went the 'what if we play slow?' variation of annoying people than going super fast. Probably inspired by St. Vitus and such. 'Stoner doom' is not really that much of a heavy metal genre and this will become clear when you listen to Kyuss (also punk rock and hardcore kids who'd spit on you for liking Iron Maiden). Just liking sabbath doesn't make you come from metal, sabbath belongs to the world. Only recently have we started pretending like these scenes were holding hands and accepting of each other, they absolutely were not. These things don't matter that much anymore, there are no regional scenes anymore of anathema in genre mixing, we live in an internet overconnected world. But back where I come from (with the EPICUS DOOMICUS METALLICUS tattoo), this is just slow music by punk rock kids that like sabbath. Why do I make this distinction in the same breath where I say it don't matter that much anymore: because - jokes aside - this isn't 'epic doom metal', it has very little to do with Candlemass, it's just slow blues jams, the overdramatic element of the power metal singer is missing, the gothic atmosphere is missing. It's good, but it's not doom metal, is it? It's just slow. Hence the term 'stoner rock', which only through the debris of time has come to retroactively talk of itself as 'stoner metal' as well. In 1993 there was no 'stoner metal'. This stuff - believe it or not - was marketed to the post-Nirvana generation as a big deal, Sleep were on a major and a lot of money was made on their backs. Goes to show what people call doom is a very wide range of extreme musics that happen to be slow tempo. And from this sleep album, if you go to say, Thergothon, or Esoteric, or Unholy, or even Anathema or My Dying Bride you will see there's even more space still. The more metal side of slow extreme music is much more rewarding than slow blues jams imo, unless you wanna do what Sleep suggest and light up (which I recommend you do not, life is better sober).
also Judson you make a very good compositional point about how very slow extreme music can kind of do whatever, can transfer from whatever to whatever because the rhythmic cohesion is so spread out, the music can almost appear motionless or at least motivated by subconscious whims, like a sound sculpture (you'd have to go much deeper into the extremity of doom to get what I mean, i.e. sub-40 bpm. Try to imagine that pulse in your body as a musician... you have never heard popular music at 30 bpm have you? There might be a reason). This allows for very surreal changes, or intentful mood shifts, it's a very romantic (as in the classical sense) to sequence musical motif. This is a bit reason, this space to reflect, find your place and anticipate the next event is what makes doom metal so interesting - but also so easy to do badly and end up getting bored. The other end of this effect are the bands that go so fast, the sense of separation between up beat and downbeat blurs so it no longer sounds like it's going super fast, it sounds like a chaotic maelstrom - the more extreme types of death metal and grind.And wouldn't you know, there's a god tier band that goes from one extreme to the other in a way that no other band can or has or will ever, but you really need to train your ears before you attempt to listen to diSEMBOWELMENT - Transcendence into the Peripheral. Btw there is no new doom that's going to be more interesting to you than the doom of the 90s, you can take that to the bank. This subgenre had a definitive peak. It's not an accident you're listening to an ancient Sleep song and Candlemass and such when we go to slow extreme music. The last good band in the style was fucking Catacombs.
Can't wait until you have him listen to Dopesmoker.
Hell yeah!! On a livestream and all stoned, gotta experience it as intended
It'll set him up for the Bell Witch song Mirror Reaper.
Hell yeah!
To the riff filled land
Electric Wizard time! Funeralopolis? Dopethrone?
Funeralopolis for sure
I'm thinking Pallbearer could be a good next band to listen to as well. Judson likes his 90's rock, and the vocals of Pallbearer remind me strongly of Layne Staley.
Funeralopolis
Yessss!!!!
DOPETHRONE.
You know it's going to be a good one when Richard is intently watching for Judson's reaction, and keeps smiling in anticipation of what's coming next
Epicus. Doomicus. Metallicus.
YOB is a good one
YOB and Om are the answer here.
I second YOB
Beauty in Falling Leaves, Marrow, or Our Raw Heart
Marrow.
ball of molten lead
'Money' is in 7/4. 'Manic Depression' is in 3/4 (Jimi Hendrix). 'Textures' by Cynic starts off in 6/8. The underwatwler theme from Super Mario Bros. (NES) is a pure waltz in 3/4. I use those songs as rhythmic reference points.
I feel like Judson would dig Om, High On Fire, and YOB.
Om is a bass-heavy project by Paul Cisneros, the bassist/singer for Sleep. High On Fire is Matt Pike's metal group (guitarist from Sleep). YOB is a fanastic experimental stoner/psychedelic/doom group from a bit further up north in Oregon. I don't want to spoil much other than to say those groups probably showcase what Judson is looking for.
CYNIC FOREVER! ❤🔥
Paul? His name is Al
That was a fun one! Stoner metal is indeed a ride, I love the changing time signatures, and letting the music sink. For something more recent whenever you come back to this, I'd suggest Monolord - The Last Leaf!
Good shout! Monolord is a must. I think Judson would love Rust
Yes! Sleep! It be awesome if you did some electric wizard soon! I suggest the first song on the “come my fanatics”, “return trip”. Thank you! You guys are awesome.
10:13 - Doom makes me so happy - I high five to that!
The mighty SLEEP, nice one... thank you! The natural transition would be something in the likes of YOB - Adrift in the Ocean.
Another sugestion withing this genre: Stoned Jesus - I'm The Mountain
I would check out High on fire. It’s the guitarist other band. It’s heavier but has a reminiscent sound. I think you would both like it.
has matt pike ever worn a shirt?
@@kennay1232 Maybe once.
Electric Wizard for sure.
Love this song, This was the first song my bass teacher taught me on my bass. so it has a special place in my heart!
That was awesome! Felt kinda blues-y to me at times, super cool. I’m in the process of learning some music theory fundamentals, so I appreciate you pointing out the use of diminished and augmented notes, it’s interesting and helps develop my ear.
There's a band from Belgium called Gnome that does a fun take on modern doom, and they have absolutely hilarious videos. They're very much tongue-in-cheeck, so it could be fun to feature them on the channel (Wenceslas is a good one).
saw them last year in Berlin, great Band
"Doom makes me so happy"
That would be a perfect quote for a t-shirt 😁
My Dying Bride - Turn Loose the Swans
Oh yes, the 'Sear Me' version, pretty pretty please😍
It should be mandatory
Gothic death doom metal is definitely winner
Nope, A Doomed Lover is better 😍
"Doom makes me so happy."
Pallbearer is good modern doom band
pallbearer - worlds apart - this is my recommendation :)
That's a really nice new doom suggestion since they've dropped new album
And honestly would be a great pick from even 2012s album (but maybe it's too much for the soul)
Yup. They recently toured with High On Fire (Matt Pike). Great show.
Given to the Grave would be my personal pick for a song of theirs. The recording they did for Audiotree is a real masterpiece.
I was in a shity mood and this reaction made me laugh and got me ready for my day. I'm a musician and I loved how Judson got on his piano and started playing the track as soon as it ended. Dopesmoker next for sure.
Great reaction! "Sleep's Holy Mountain" is a masterpiece! Doom metal is addictive! There are several sacred bands like Sleep: Candlemass, Saint Vitus, Pentagram, Cathedral (mainly first LP "Forest of Equilibrium" and EP "Soul Sacrifice"), Trouble, Electric Wizard, Cianide ("The Dying Truth" and "A Descent into Hell" albums), Asphyx ("The Rack" and "Last One on Earth" albums), Witchfinder General, Winter, Bethlehem ("Dark Metal" album), Samael ("Worship Him" album), Burzum ("Burzum" to "Filosofem"), Burning Witch, Goatsnake, Count Raven, Dawn of Winter ("The Peaceful Dead" album), Evoken ("Quietus" album), Esoteric, The Wounded Kings, Cirith Ungol, Nightstick, Paradise Lost ("Gothic" album), Solitude Aeturnus, The Obsessed, Crowbar, Kyuss, 5ive, Sons of Otis, Iron Man (the band), Black Sabbath, Spectral Voice, Rippikoulu, Cavurn, Disembowelment, Warhorse, Sleep, High on Fire ("The Art of Self Defense" album), Earthride, Acid King, etc...
Love that Judson digs doom. Orange Goblin's Into the Arms of Morpheus or Heavy lies the Crown would be a great new stoner/doom listen as well!
But for the evil stuff, Bathsheba is one of my all time my favourite doom, but just music in general
on The Ethereal Mirror this is another voice he will definitely not forget. The one the only, Lee Dorrian! Super talented signer who has fun and doesn't take himself seriously.
Great reaction! The best track from the masterpiece "Sleep's Holy Mountain" (1992) is the song "Aquarian"...Greetings from Brazil!!!!!!
Stoned Jesus - I am the Mountain
Quite possibly the most underrated 3 piece of all time. YON is love
High On Fire next?
Matt Pike!
Sleep
Fun Band.
Although they do make me sleepy.
Another entertaining analysis, gentlemen!! 🤘😎🤘
High on Fire - Snakes For The Divine is a goodie. Matt Pike 🎸
That’s the sickest shirt you have worn Rich.
Stoner metal is such a underrated genre of metal
Just out of curiosity, how is it rated at the moment and how should it be rated?
i do believe, if i haven't dreamed it up, that iommi said about sleep covering one of sabbath's songs that sleep is one of the few bands who understood what they were about... or something about those lines. by the way if you want new doom check out castle rat.
If he wants really new there’s an Acid Mammoth album from a few months ago.
OMG we almost didn't a mom joke but then we got one before the end and all was well.
Give him Orange Goblin’s “Saruman’s Wish” or Windhand’s “Feral Bones”.
Love me some stoner rock/metal as well. Great choice here. Awesome track!
Khemmis - The Bereaved
Dopelord , bongzilla , weedeater , electric wizard
Oh man...getting into Sleep!?! You should have him listen to Graveyard Richard! Oh the sludge!! Gotta love Sleep🖤 I love that doom makes you so happy Judson, its my favorite 😊
There’s a full album worth of Black Sabbath riffs in that one
a demo so good the label just said, "fuck it lets release it like this"
as far as new doom - Judson would probably dig *Sonic Titan* from Sleep's last album The Sciences 🤘
Sleep! Yes!! Thank you. Something off the Sciences would fill Judson's request. Sonic Titan, Antarcticans Thawed, or The Botanist. Leagues Beneath. Great to see Judson moved by stoner doom. It's blues based awesomeness.
you should check out "YOB - Adrift in the Ocean - Woods Stage @Pickathon 2019"
Electric Wizard also seems like a Good Choice for more Doom, Om is also great the eastern and Orthodox religious influences make it really interesting. I would personally also love to see some Eyehategod or Acid Bath.
Please do Witchfinder General's "Invisible Hate".
Oh, Trouble - Green Plastic Head would be awesome!!!
High on fire!
You guys should do the Botantist and the Clarity. And then go into some High on Fire.
high on fire - turk
If Judson likes the voice then he should check out Stoned Jesus!
I know Jerusulem but didn't know any song from this album. It's pretty groovy.
Swallow the Sun would be a nice band for you to try! Especially the early production!
Psicosfera - "Natus Est" (Argentinian band, from where I am too). Give it a go, it's a great band!
Warlung, Weedruid, Venus Sleeps, The Wiring, let's have it.
Thought the song Judson was playing was D.H.T at first lmao Felt like I was in my sisters bedroom as a child in 05 for a sec
Gotta do Om too
7/4..............and I was hearing similarities to Money as well J. Money/Helmet......haha. Good tune tho! Never heard them before, but Ill be checking them out! Rock on gentlemen!!! \m/
Yeeee....Pallbearer puts out some great albums.
Warhorse - dooms bride.
put some king gizzard and the ... some gila monsteeeeeer.. by the way, thanks for the recomendation... fucking killer baaaassssss
Their metal albums kick ass🤘
🌲 🔥 💨
If you like Sleep you should listen to Om they are the rhyme section from Sleep
Greaticus Measuricus,
i feel everyone gonna recommend the usuals, Om, Electric Wizard, Witchfinder General, etc. all classics, all good, but overplayed
show him Humulus by Humulus
Stoned Jesus (i like electric mistress and I'm The Mountain)
Maha Sohona
Witches of Mars by Kal-El
literally anything by Uncle Acid
Even Dagger Dragger by Castle Rat (since he wants to hear whats new)
If you're looking for good newer doom, you should check out Khemmis "The Bereaved." It's about going one toke over the line, hitting your head on a coffee table, and grappling with eternity while you struggle to make it back to reality. Epicus with a capital E. Also Red Fang "Wires" 'cause the video is awesome.
Good morning guys. Don't know the piano piece but sounds familiar. Sleep is a great doom/sludge band and a huge fan of shirtless Matt Pike Maybe a High On Fire song would be applicable...
Acid King's latest album is released in 2023 :)
Epicus Doomicus album bdw
Great reaction!!!!
Doom Metal is addictive, mesmerizing, sacred, immortal, really badass...There are "countless" sacred Doom Metal bands and the subgenres of Doom Metal: Doom Metal (Pentagram, Saint Vitus, Witchfinder General, Count Raven, Trouble, Pagan Altar, Reverend Bizarre, Dawn of Winter, etc), Heavy/Doom (Black Sabbath, Cirith Ungol, etc), Doom/Stoner (Cathedral, Electric Wizard, Acid King, etc), Epic Doom Metal (Candlemass, Solitude Aeturnus, etc), Stoner/Doom (Sleep, Goatsnake, etc), Death/Doom (Asphyx, Cianide, Disembowelment, Winter, Spectral Voice, etc), Black/Doom (Samael, Bethlehem, etc), Doom/Death (Rippikoulu, Cavurn, etc), Funeral Doom/Death (Esoteric, Evoken, etc), Sludge/Drone/Doom (Burning Witch, Cough, Indian, etc), etc, etc, etc...Greetings from Brazil!!!
Thank you for this!
@@Greatmeasures Great reaction! "Sleep's Holy Mountain" is a masterpiece! Doom metal is addictive! There are several sacred bands like Sleep: Candlemass, Saint Vitus, Pentagram, Cathedral (mainly first LP "Forest of Equilibrium" and EP "Soul Sacrifice"), Trouble, Electric Wizard, Cianide ("The Dying Truth" and "A Descent into Hell" albums), Asphyx ("The Rack" and "Last One on Earth" albums), Witchfinder General, Winter, Bethlehem ("Dark Metal" album), Samael ("Worship Him" album), Burzum ("Burzum" to "Filosofem"), Burning Witch, Goatsnake, Count Raven, Dawn of Winter ("The Peaceful Dead" album), Evoken ("Quietus" album), Esoteric, The Wounded Kings, Cirith Ungol, Nightstick, Paradise Lost ("Gothic" album), Solitude Aeturnus, The Obsessed, Crowbar, Kyuss, 5ive, Sons of Otis, Iron Man (the band), Black Sabbath, Spectral Voice, Rippikoulu, Cavurn, Disembowelment, Warhorse, Sleep, High on Fire ("The Art of Self Defense" album), Earthride, Acid King, etc...
If Judson is a big fan of space in composition, you should have him listen to some atmospheric sludge like Neurosis or Isis or Cult of Luna.
Can you listen to some Elder? Early albums are kinda similar to Sleep in a way. Late albums are still amazing stoner, but the sound shifts more to psychedelic stuff
Electric Wizard Please.
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My favorite doom / stoner bands
Acid Mammoth
Windhand
Monolord
Green Lung
Witch
Dopelord
The Sword
1782
Bongzilla
Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats
Weedeater
High on Fire
Acid King
Please do something by Yob next, similar vibe! Beauty in Falling Leaves or Our Raw Heart, so good.
For 'new' doom, I recommend something of the new Stygian Crown release 'Funeral for a King'; awesome album! 🤘👌
Fister - Antitheist (2014)
Gentlemen, I promise it don't get much better. 10/10 masterpiece
Even if you don't put it on the channel, you both owe it to yourselves to listen to it anyway. It's that good.
man the song picks on this channel are so good, i cant not watch every video. acid bath soon?
That’s for that! And thanks for hanging out with us!
Dragonaut reminds me of two or three Black Sabbath songs.
New doom? It gotta be Monolord!
Try some "Graves At Sea"... The Ashes Make Her Beautiful is something little different, criminally unknown band
Sleeeeep
King Buffalo. Just...just King Buffalo.
Red Star!
Not necessarily all that new but YOB would be a good reaction. Bongripper would also be cool. Or some of the older stuff from BORIS. that would be the bees knees!
Dopesmoker time.
How about some Elder, Pallbearer or Kadavar?
this band turns you into a fluid. weird chemistry that is ..
This is outta left field but Drowned Beast by Thee oh sees
Some rare Sabbath songs would be good
He needs to listen to OM as well
Khemmis or Crypt Sermon are both very good new Doom metal. Would love to see a reaction!
The latest Crypt Sermon album is one of the best releases of 2024 regardless of genre.. 🤗
Epicus. Doomicus. Metallicacus
ISUA
The cartoon snore, come on 🤣
I started playing bass well, well into my 20s as my first instrument with not much prior experience. As a music geek my taste was fairly eclectic by then, so my inspiration for learning and playing came from bands like Sleep, Weedeater, Kyuss, Electric Wizard, Colour Haze, Yawning Man. This stuff is extremely my shit, as it were. Excited to see you dig deeper!
Some fresh-out-the-oven Doom suggestions:
"Remains" by Bongripper ("Empty", 2024)
"Bog Walker" by Acacia Strain ("Failure Will Follow", 2023)
"New Rites" by Sumac ("The Healer", 2024)
"Tunnel" by Bog Monkey ("Hollow", 2023)
"Leeched" by Ufomammut ("Hidden", 2024)
Bongripper is just a solid-ass band; formed well after 9/11, you'll be happy to know. The Acacia Strain song captures the contemporary Doom vibe very well imo, while the band's recent releases as a whole are tough to pin down style-wise. Sumac's music is a fusion of different heavy styles as well; most "progressive" song on this list. Bog Monkey has a quicker pace and sounds just as dirty as the name. Ufomammut... well let's they also sound like their name lol.
Behold Al Cisneros greatness!
woohoop! stoner doom just makes us soo happy ^^ it's not as modern as Judson wants, but you could do Etna from Sunn/Boris ((@-@))
You want some "post trump presidency doom" huh?
I love Acid Mammoth. They have a new album but i suggest the opening track "Them!" from the 2020 album Under Acid Hoof. Good stuff!
Next step High on fire or OM ? 🎉😊
Sleep is more Stoner than Doom BTW, modern Sleep album could be a great listening❤
Modern Doom : Pallbearer
A stoner doom classic indeed.
But Judson shouldn't greedy. Wanting to see how a genre evolved, and then saying he doesn't want to experience the evolution of it? Pfff! Give him something more recent, then go back to show the conventional chronological progression of the genre and it's branches.
As for a more recent song (by maybe not a recent band however, although masters of it) may I suggest "Ravenghast" or "Beneath Broken Earth" by Paradise Lost?
ok we got the baby Sleep stuff out of the way now, perhaps Return Trip (from Come, My Fanatics) by Electric Wizard is the culmnation of this style, worth experiencing that terrible negativity at least once in life.
I prefer latter Sleep material when they become even more monolithic and uninterested in short-form, but this is still cool, it's more sabbathy, connecting to the source.
So a bit of history, this isn't a doom band and it doesn't come from heavy metal. These were punks and hardcore kids that went the 'what if we play slow?' variation of annoying people than going super fast. Probably inspired by St. Vitus and such. 'Stoner doom' is not really that much of a heavy metal genre and this will become clear when you listen to Kyuss (also punk rock and hardcore kids who'd spit on you for liking Iron Maiden). Just liking sabbath doesn't make you come from metal, sabbath belongs to the world. Only recently have we started pretending like these scenes were holding hands and accepting of each other, they absolutely were not.
These things don't matter that much anymore, there are no regional scenes anymore of anathema in genre mixing, we live in an internet overconnected world. But back where I come from (with the EPICUS DOOMICUS METALLICUS tattoo), this is just slow music by punk rock kids that like sabbath.
Why do I make this distinction in the same breath where I say it don't matter that much anymore: because - jokes aside - this isn't 'epic doom metal', it has very little to do with Candlemass, it's just slow blues jams, the overdramatic element of the power metal singer is missing, the gothic atmosphere is missing. It's good, but it's not doom metal, is it? It's just slow. Hence the term 'stoner rock', which only through the debris of time has come to retroactively talk of itself as 'stoner metal' as well. In 1993 there was no 'stoner metal'. This stuff - believe it or not - was marketed to the post-Nirvana generation as a big deal, Sleep were on a major and a lot of money was made on their backs. Goes to show what people call doom is a very wide range of extreme musics that happen to be slow tempo. And from this sleep album, if you go to say, Thergothon, or Esoteric, or Unholy, or even Anathema or My Dying Bride you will see there's even more space still. The more metal side of slow extreme music is much more rewarding than slow blues jams imo, unless you wanna do what Sleep suggest and light up (which I recommend you do not, life is better sober).
also Judson you make a very good compositional point about how very slow extreme music can kind of do whatever, can transfer from whatever to whatever because the rhythmic cohesion is so spread out, the music can almost appear motionless or at least motivated by subconscious whims, like a sound sculpture (you'd have to go much deeper into the extremity of doom to get what I mean, i.e. sub-40 bpm. Try to imagine that pulse in your body as a musician... you have never heard popular music at 30 bpm have you? There might be a reason). This allows for very surreal changes, or intentful mood shifts, it's a very romantic (as in the classical sense) to sequence musical motif. This is a bit reason, this space to reflect, find your place and anticipate the next event is what makes doom metal so interesting - but also so easy to do badly and end up getting bored.
The other end of this effect are the bands that go so fast, the sense of separation between up beat and downbeat blurs so it no longer sounds like it's going super fast, it sounds like a chaotic maelstrom - the more extreme types of death metal and grind.And wouldn't you know, there's a god tier band that goes from one extreme to the other in a way that no other band can or has or will ever, but you really need to train your ears before you attempt to listen to diSEMBOWELMENT - Transcendence into the Peripheral.
Btw there is no new doom that's going to be more interesting to you than the doom of the 90s, you can take that to the bank. This subgenre had a definitive peak. It's not an accident you're listening to an ancient Sleep song and Candlemass and such when we go to slow extreme music. The last good band in the style was fucking Catacombs.
Belakor
Kind of the band Morphine on steroids