How to record heavy guitar 2 - Dialing in your amp | Spectresoundstudios TUTORIAL
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- Part two of my series on recording heavy guitar. By request! How to dial in your amp for recording.
A simple, easy to follow how-to guide that can be applied to any guitar amp, tube based, or solid state.
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Funny enough, in my band, the bassist is the tech-savvy one. Then again, he's not actually a "bassist" he's a multi-instrumentalist that happens to play bass, amongst other things, in my band.
You guys are fortunate
@@robjobse8860 I play bass, poorly, but I started out as a trumpet player as a kid. I guess the jokes only apply to pure bass players lol
Hey that's me right now!
@@jasonschannel9526 I've known so many bassists over the years that played horns in school, specifically trumpet.
@@feebypeels2883 I did as well. Weird.
“You can lean on the cleaner side and quad track your guitar for thickness”
That just helped me a lot with recording with my shitty little setup, the distortion on my amp sucks and I don’t have the cash to spare for amp modeling on my computer, so I just record it from the amp to the mic and I cannot for the life of me get a heavy, clear sound with it. It sounds better with lower gain but it lacks punch. This is going to help. Great video.
About freaking time. I have watched so many videos on recording/dialing in an amp sound and this is the first one that goes beyond "Okay set this knob about here or this one about here" and details what you're trying to get. Much appreciated.
I'd like to see a series of how a basic guitar track becomes something that sounds like something you would hear on a professional recording or CD. I can never figure out to turn something I record into something listenable without instantly recognizing the lack of quality
Mixing and mastering are the things that will determine a semi-professional sound, and something from a basement musician. Also, guitars on their own will sound a bit amateurish, but blended into a mix they will sound much better.
@@gamer263 Sometimes it's just lucky mic placement and lucky volume level (tube or solid, speaker doesn't care, it must move).
Happened to me only once, didn't even need any processing, it was miraculous.
I must add, i covered my speaker with thick cloth to only get the speaker and to also not blast my ears with high volume and high frequencies.
Sometimes you just need to push your speaker for maximum efficiency and potential.
I'm drunk at the time of writing, sorry if i left in mistakes. Not a native eng speaker.
My favorite amateur, shitty guitar tone setting, that some people actually think sounds good goes like this.
Gain - 10
Bass - 10
Middle - 0
Treble - 10
Volume - 11
Its amazing how many guitar players can't get a decent tone from even the simplest set ups.
***** I've learned to balance tone a lot better. I basically dial in my tone the same way Glenn does, I find I usually end up with the Gain around 6, Bass around 3, Mids around 4-6, and Treble around 5-6 and Presence around 5. Depending on the amp, its usually around that area.
Matt Newman I find most amps don't give me what I want with that kind of scoop, but when you do it with a 5150/6505/many other Peavey amps, it actually doesn't really sound "scooped" to my ears, just tight. I talked to a Peavey tech about it once, he told me that with most Peavey amps, turning the bass AND mids down, treble up some, you are really only "scooping" lower mids, and the treble knob drags the high-mids up with it. This allows you to avoid mud, keep your "chugs" tight, have a decent nasal upper-mid bite, and not have the vocals and guitars competing for the same place in the mix. But a Marshall with the mids turned way down sounds muffled and hollow to me. Except the Valvestate amps, they seem to have the mid control centered lower too.
Adam Rainstopper I find to get a good clean tone you wanna scoop it a lot more than a dirty tone. To me the best way to find the sweet spot for every frequency is to turn the dial till the bass, mids, or treble sound like its "too much" then dial it back a tiny bit.
Matt Newman Yes, with the exceptions of certain reggae/ska clean tones. I actually like a fairly flat eq for high-gain stuff, but I do dial the bass back a fair amount, because I don't like having to use post-eq. It just doesn't sound as natural to me.
Adam Rainstopper I use bass amps usually to run my Pod through, so at higher volumes I have to dial back the bass a lot, the amp usually makes up for it.
These two about setting up tone and levels really helped. Son-in-law says thanks! He records backing tracks for himself and others.
Would be cool seeing the soldering tutorial, I wonder how much you can do with diy. Great video as usual!
As a computer support administrator that plays guitar strictly as a hobby for my own amusement, I'd love to see a soldering tutorial.
Also, what do you recommend for someone like me as far as equipment to practice on and ways to improve?
+connect2reality already did one!
lol, I posted the comment before I read the comment below. Will watch as soon as I can.
Awesome, thanks Glen.
It would be great if you did a video that focused on the proper way to capture a guitar di that will be used for reamping later.
The proper gain staging and min, max levels and what type of di to use with active/ passive pups.
This subject seems to be a big mystery to many people and i remember reading something you wrote about it years ago that was very informative.
Thanks for being a productive member of the online music community.
I'll put it on my list!
Glenn, you are SO entertaining! Sometimes tutorials can be kinda boring. Not yours! I'm learning a lot from your vids,thank you! 🤘🏻
Glen you always make some of the most informative and honest videos. I would love to see the soddering video. I have been wanting to replace the pickups in one of my guitars.
Hey Glenn, I followed these two tutorials pretty closely and got really good results. This is the first time i have ever Mic'd up my 6505 and I usually just play through amplitude on home recordings but it sounds so much better with a real amp. Watching your videos helped me a whole lot man. Thanks and please keep posting good shit!
Record your own IR. That's what you're hearing. I did it cause I was too lazy to find an IR using Mojotone Greyhound speakers; something that was probably more time consuming but was allot more fun.
Wow, so much info and no blah blah. I wish all videos were like this LOL. I love how this was done. Like you had 5 minutes left before your next impending bowl movement took priority. The way it oughta be!
There's a reason for that. I really need to do a video on the subject :)
One tip that I've learned from experience is to test your tone to see how it will sound double tracked panned L+R before you start recording. So many times I thought I had the greatest tone and recorded the whole song only to learn later that it didn't mesh well when I tracked the 2nd guitar track. So if you have the chance, do a few test riffs double tracked to get a better idea of what it's going to sound like.
+1 for the soldering video
I'll put it on the list!
SpectreSoundStudios ditto for the soldering. Your videos are bad ass dude! Greetings from Az! Watched all of them since the beginning, first time commenting. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Glenn
Glenn your videos are excellent. I learn so much from these. I really appreciate the work you put into your videos and the knowledge you share.
My dad helped me build a patch cord from scratch it is a very good skill to have in the world of music tech. Thank you for an awesome tutorial!
ive learned so many of these specific little terms like "transients" and "excursion" from you glenn, your the best. thank ya thank ya
I would love to see that soldering video.
me too!!!!
This video is not only very helpful but funny as well!
Thank you pal!! You are very clever and the explanations are super clear.
Any tutorial for home studio is more than welcome.
Blessings from Costa Rica
Sure thing! Hope the weather's nice down there.... It started snowing up here yesterday :(
Omg this Glenn is so much calmer than nowadays, understandable with the current heavy metal panorama.
Sorry for my English, I'm from Poland (the land of Vodka).
About bass players, I know your pain. I play punk rock with a band, so one of the most simple music genre ever. We had 4 or 5 bass players and everyone sucks... They couldn't learn the songs and the worst part is that they didn't even hear that they are playing something that sounds bad with the rest instrumenst... Different scale etc. Now we have great bass player. Becouse it's our old guitarist. I'd love to create a metal band (becouse I'm bored with recording my s**t lonely at home) but I think it's impossible to find bass player that won't kill my music...
Actually finding a bassist in Poland for metal isn't the worst part, at least in Warsaw. Most of bassist that actually do tackle metal know what they are doing.
But guitarists, now this is a fucking pain. It just seems impossible to find someone responsible with decent skills and little to no ego, as most of those that we tried to get when we searched for the other guitar were simply cunts in different departments so to say.
Also drummers - these fuckers are like unicorns, finding one that is good in what he is doing (as in playing in time) and got time to put effort into your band is literally next to a fucking miracle.
AWESOME definition on the guitar. So much of the time, the guitar players I'm working with just dial up mud; it just becomes a wash-out of undefinable noise. Great vid.
Hey Glenn,great video once again man.
Could you tell me what camera and software you use to make your videos?
sony a7s, davinci resolve lite
After watching this vid I went out to my garage and tried those tone settings on my 5150 2X12 combo. I don't scoop the mids (i turned them up to about 4 or 5) but I turned up the highs and presence to your recommended settings as well as the bass and resonance, and holy shit did it make my sound better! I never thought to turn the high frequencies up that high and it made a huge difference. Thanks!
It works like that with the green channel, maybe not so much with the Red.
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Would someone be capable of achieving the same results with a Marshall jcm 800 2203 head? Curious because the features on the amp are simplified but its a split channel amp. Thanks.
Theoneandonly88able It's a different voiced amp, it's not going to sound the same, learning how amps and controls affect your amp is far more useful than copying presets. As a British voiced amp the mids are pretty prevalent too but it's nt going to sound like a 5150 no matter how hard to mess with it.
i used this for dialing in my amp on BIAS! thanks Glenn! :D
Dude, you're well and truly back on form with the bass player ribbing on this one. Top notch!
:)
Overtime I had wandered so far away from my 'tone' and kept adjusting the mics a hair. One day I muted the monitors, cranked the amp and was like WTF!! NOWHERE NEAR. This video serves as an excellent reminder to dial in the amp. THEN go after it with mics. RUclips recommended this video to me, intuitively... so Thanks great internet controller God.
this is one of the best channels I've found here. Greetings from Argentina!
A video on soldering would be very much appreciated Glenn!
Extremely helpful dude. Thank you
Love to see a video on wiring and soldering.
Thanks Glenn
Having read all your drum guides on the Sneap forums, I can't wait to see them updated in video form. Keep up the good fight pal!
Awesome, please make a soldering video. Please make sure that it is simple enough to follow along for us bass players.
Thank you, keep the awesome vids coming....
Those are some dank riffs m8 also hope the third 'How to get your band ready for the stage" will be out soon
You're really giving away the family jewels here. I appreciate it. Thanks!
A soldering tutorial would be great. I know a lot of people who can plug in an iron and melt some soft metal onto some other metal, but that's not the same as soldering.
Mainly, people don't know about heating up the contact point, rather than just melting solder onto the contact.
Yes on the soldering demo. Keep up the good work!
I would like to request a video where you compare an amp, cab, and a mic to record guitar tracks versus recording guitar tracks with an Amp Sim. Show us how the tones differ if you were to use identical settings on each channel. Play them through the mix and see how each one sounds. I think that would be a great addition to your awesome videos!
Keep making more videos! I'll keep watchin' em'.
AxeFx II vs The Real Deal: ruclips.net/video/-EtxHlJ2FPo/видео.html
A tutorial on home and studio soldering would be awesome! I've done a little myself with changing pickups and pots on a guitar, but it's only a self-taught thing I've been doing. Hearing from a pro would be great.
i have a crappy 150 watt 212 line 6 combo from the early 2000's. I run it on the recto setting with the drive a little behind noon, I also run a ts9 as my clean boost and it is godly to me. I want a tube amp like you wouldn't believe but for 300 dollars I have a pretty good amp with a really nice sounding drive. this amp is super trebled though so I set the drive as low as I can get it with it just breaking up enough to be considered crunch, also mids at about 3 past noon is the only way it pops in a mix the amp on its own either sounds like a power drill in slow motion or one of those wet farts that you could probably cut a recliner in half with. Anyyyywayyysssss I'm happy
Great vid Glenn! Would appreciate some about mixing. If you don't mind I've got some dumb beginner questions (yes, I play bass):
1. When do you recommend quad tracking?
2. Where do you place the rhythm guitar tracks in the panning?
3. What else do you do to differentiate them from each other?
Thanks!
Dude. That guitar tone is heavier than my mom. I REALLY mean that! Keep it up
:)
There are a lot of people out there that have absolutely no knowledge in what any of this means, but would love to understand. I understand just about half of it. So my question is, could you make a video or two on the very fundamentals? Things like what is an EQ, or a tube amplifier head. Thanks
Recording Metal (properly) is an art, and you sir are an ARTIST \m/\m/
It is about time somebody made a video like this! Good work brother man.
+SuperJiggawhat thank you very much!
That schecter sounds amazing at the end there. I have a C1 Hellraiser and really like the 5150 sound, I'm gonna have to save up for one.
I started doing lows 5.5, mids 5.5 and highs 9.5. I used to scoop the mids a little but now like them more present. I usually obsess over the guitar eq in post because the smallest adjustments can make such massive changes in the sound.
Maathiu Ra Yin pronounced Mids always sound better than scooped Mids. Good to see some metal guitarists that don't use metallica/Pantera approach :D
Max O'Mars i like the compressed sound of scooped sometimes but it kills the crispiness and open sound and makes it a bit muddy. I also just find leaving things towards the center for recording is better for capturing and then can be scooped later if needed. also most of the highs we are perceiving are around 500-1000. everything above that is air sound and tambre. distortion overtones and stuff.
I have the same guitar, nice man. Also, please expidite the recording drums video as I am having huge debates with my drummer on how to properly record drums. Thanks for the vids and keep them coming!
I would really like to see a video on vocal recording! Is that possible? My second most wanted video would be one on mixing a complete track.
Great channel with information from someone who actually knows what he is doing.
This really helped a lot because I’m wanting to start recording once i get the software and the gear thank you!
Hey Glen , would be awesome to see you get some Harley Benton guitars into the studio for a video or two , many Americans and Canadians have never seen them , which is a shame considering the value for money of the guitars , just a suggestion my friend
we just followed these steps in our small rehearsal room and fuck yeah, huge impact! thanks a lot for this! the world needs more of your tutorials! \m/ sick riffs again :3
Glad I could help. These settings work great with the green channel. Red may work better with less treble.
This is one of the best youtube channels.
glenn. muchas gracias por esta leccion. a parte de saber enseñar, inspiras la intencion de los que te seguimos. te deseo la mejor de las inspiraciones.
glenn. thank you so much for this lesson. besides of being fully aware of how to teach, you inspire the intention of us who follow you. i wish for you the best inspiration.
Man i love at the end when you kick into that riff, sounds awesome!
Very cool video. Super consistent with some stuff I read on Slipperman's "Recording Distorted Guitars Thread From Hell", I think. Keep up the good work Glenn.
A soldering video would be greatly appreciated, especially for soldering electronics in a guitar (ie pickups, 3 &/or 5 way switch, pan knob, etc.). Thank you.
I would love to see a video covering soldering! I have basic skills regarding electronics, but I am always afraid to attempt it for fear of ruining my pedals and/or guitars that I own.
im not a metalhead,but your advices are between the best ones avaible on youtube, keep up the good work!
Please make a tutorial for soldering electronics. My personal wish would be that you made a tutorial for soldering guitar electronics/pickup wiring etc. that would be downright amazing! ;D
Thank you so much for making this, I’m buying a used 5150 212 tomorrow and haven’t really bought tube amps before and wanted what the nobs should do incase the sellers trying to burn me and not telling me if there’s something wrong
hell yeah I want a soldering video! do a vid with pedal effects vs digital effects would be awesome too!
I think you should do a soldering tutorial as the process is simple enough and I know countless amounts of dumb-fucks that are willing to pay good money for "professionals" to do it for them rather than to do it themselves.
As one of those dumb-fucks, I agree.
i do soldering and yes it's a great idea.. i've had people come to me to fix 1/4" cables.. something that is meeega easy to do..
I have a soldering kit but I'm not the best solderer, so I would love to see a tutorial.
i do some soldering on my channel.. not tutorial but i'm going to do a DIY trigger tutorial this week..
Also Being one of those dumb-fucks, I 110% agree.
Hey thanks for the tips i was having a hell of a time dialing in this B52 Transistor amp, and just couldnt get the right tone, used your settings and tweaked it a little and chug a chug a!!!!
always insightful. Thanks for all the tips. Looking forward to the drum tutorial. I'll reference you in my album credits, it's like you're looking over my shoulder in my diy studio. Super helpful. Cheers bro
Dude, your tutorials are absolutely awesome.
A video on soldering would be awesome!
Hey Glenn, A few questions:
Can you explain more about cabinet resonance, is that something you will hear or feel like if you put your hand on the cabinet?
What is your opinion on where you place the cabinet in the room, does a corner, or the middle of the room placement affect the sound (more bass reflections, etc.)? I notice a difference. Even placing the mic on the lower speaker vs the upper one, I can hear the mic picking up different bass frequencies, when its on the floor/lower corner speaker.
I own a 150W Mesa Triple Rectifier, with two Oversized Mesa 4x12 cabinets. What is your opinion on using the full stack (side by side, not literally stacked on top of each other), but still only recording with one mic/one speaker?
Here's why I'm asking. I find that the amp sounds different when the load of the extra cabinet is added. The 8 speakers "soak up" a lot of the wattage, and definitely make the amp sound filtered and balanced. The best way I could compare it is to aging whisky. Using one cabinet is like a 3 year old scotch, but running two cabinets smooths it out like a good 15 year scotch.
Thanks for the reply.
I WANT TO SEE A TUTORIAL ON SOLDERING FOR HOME STUDIOS!
Yes to the soldering! Pickups, pedals, cables, ect
What if the bassist is the studio engineer O.o
Does that mean we are totally Fucked
Yeah man, do a video on soldering for the home studio!
Is there any tutorials for guitar mixing here on your channel? I mean you show how you eq and compress on the part 1 of these but a good mixing tutorial would be appreciated, love your channel! Keep it up!
Nice vid bro, some tips I've never heard elsewhere
:)
Can't wait for that drum video!
That I think is the best Bass Player joke I have heard so far from you, fell over I was laughing so hard!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love your videos I would love to see a video on how to dial an amp in and record super low tuned guitars because lots of people fuck it up
ok
4:49 - 4:53 - Yes, please make a tutorial if you haven't already!
So I want to record my amp, through a mic and interface, but live in an apartment, so I cant crank my tubes. My question is, would I get the girth and balls on my recording if I use an amp attenuator? It helps jam quietly, but would I be sacrificing something in a recording of an attenuated amp?
Get a two notes torpedo!
+SpectreSoundStudios thanks dude! So the mic'd cab method would be out completely then? Thanks for the super fast reply, nice snare video too
Hey Glenn, you mention that you set up the EQ with a mid scoop and that this amp has a fairly loud midrange. So is the basic idea to flatten the response using the EQ? Really useful videos, keep them coming :) And please demonstrate how to record guitar DI some time.
What he's getting at is that in metal, most often to achieve that 'brutal' tone, you need to scoop the mids, but that mids are very important for your guitars to be heard in the mix. He's saying that because the 5150 is a very mid-heavy amp, you can get away with scooping it quite a bit because the guitars will still cut in the mix.
Nice riffs at the end. I love your videos!
Hey Glenn,
something that I would like to see on your channel is how to record and edit vocals. It's something that I as an upcoming producer have given little thought and even less practice. How can you achieve a great metal vocal tone? What gear to use and where can you save some serious money if you are on a tight budget? And most importantly: how to get rid of those pussy dynamics in the easiest and most effective way?
Thanks
YEEESS!!! HOME STUDIO TUTORIAL OR HINTS PLEAASE! i could really use that....
Dude! Awesome videos. Do a studio tour!
i told myself i wouldn't dislike a video by Glenn but that "no beer here" has me reconsidering
Cant wait for that drum tutorial.
Same here.
I'd love to see a video on soldering studio gear! I gave it a shot once a B.Y.O.C. guitar pedal and unfortunately wasn't a success, even though I'd seen a couple of videos on how to do it. Not sure what I missed.
Def want a soldering video. I cant get good at it. I tried soldering a bios chip onto a motherboard to no avail.
That end clip sounds pretty tight ... and thick. Thanks for the advise bro
Regarding the speakers' shitty compression you can use loadbox to sink some of the power. This way you can crank the amp and saturate the tubes properly and at the same time you won't go too hard on the speakers.
This is fucking great, dude. It's cool seeing how other people approach this, I always learn something new every time. Keen to check out a soldering video as well as the drum miking and dialling in a lead tone as well, like someone mentioned. Sweet shit man
Thanks Glenn that was really useful, even a bass player could follow that procedure - I should know because I am one!
Dude, love your videos. You're also freakin hilarious, please keep making more.
Funny but great info
yes you should do a sodering for the studio show
As a lifelong guitar player and recent adopter of his first bass guitar, the bass insults that get thrown around are fucking HILARIOUS for it is true my bass guitar is always knocking over EVERYTHING 😂😂😂
Yes! I would love to see a tutorial for the soldering, I am on a FB page and that question comes up pretty often. Could you please clarify if the cheap 20/30W soldering irons work well (I find that they do once you change the soldering pin to a thinner/smaller one). Oh! Great video by the way. Thanks! You're great!
Really great content brother. Much appreciated.
Fuck that sounded good at the end ,nothing better than hearing great tone, and recording.